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Speaker 1: The Cardinals did not score enough and because of that

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine fifty three, and it

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Puda Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 1: What rent?

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Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Right at the five hit the ends up for the

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Speaker 3: He's been an absolute monster.

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Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griolo.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not sure how many noticed this.

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Speaker 1: I know I didn't until early this morning, but Paul, today,

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Speaker 3: You know what, that just reminds me there's something I

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Speaker 3: for good. So, you know what, Craig there's always there's

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Speaker 1: I just figured it was my duty to inform you

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Speaker 3: Before the Hollida Oh my goodness. Wow, Okay, is this

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Speaker 3: Do you see the.

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Speaker 3: They're one that's two. Yes, there are two words that

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Speaker 1: The hunt a head coach that if you want to

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Speaker 3: the ball. They're not gonna let you ever touch their.

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Speaker 1: Jersey because they break the huddle and those quarterbacks know

432
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Speaker 1: exactly where they're gonna put the football before the ball

433
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Speaker 1: is even snapped. That's what made Kurt Warner so good

434
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Speaker 1: watching him for so many years here wearing an Arizona

435
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Speaker 1: Cardinals uniform. Those quarterbacks know what to do the football.

436
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: And you think Jacoby Brissett is I wouldn't say on

437
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: that level, but year ten he has seen a lot.

438
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Speaker 1: He hasn't had a lot of time in the pocket

439
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: compared to some of his counterparts around the league. But

440
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: again going back to what the offense accomplished, especially in

441
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 1: the second half, you finish with more total yards, more

442
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: passing yards, more first downs, had one of the better

443
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: run efforts of the season. Yet the only numbers that

444
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Speaker 1: matter are the seventeen points you put up on the scoreboard,

445
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: and that is not enough. It's the second fewest all season,

446
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: and you need more. Even though you allow twenty, you

447
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: need more than seventeen. You need that number to be

448
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 1: in the upper twenties in order to win most games

449
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And this Cardinals offense certainly can move

450
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: the ball. It's just being able to get across the

451
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: goal line that's been an issue.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and players make plays, and I think everyone would

453
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Speaker 3: have liked to have seen Michael Wilson have a little

454
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Speaker 3: bit more of an impact in the game. And it's tough,

455
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Speaker 3: is it not. I mean, you got the best receiving

456
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: tight end in football, sorry brock Powers. And then you

457
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: have Marvin Irrison Junior looked really good in that first

458
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Speaker 3: half and he you know, we had a chance to

459
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Speaker 3: talk to him at his locker after the game and

460
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, you know, there wasn't any rust in

461
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Speaker 3: terms of the chemistry between me and Jacoby Brissett. And

462
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: it was interesting because of Drew Petsen had mentioned to

463
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Speaker 3: the media midweek going into the Tampa game about Okay,

464
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Speaker 3: you know what, when you produce yes, that can impact

465
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 3: where you are in the progressions. You know, are you

466
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: the first read, the second read, the third read. So

467
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Speaker 3: I'd love to get an answer as to where Michael

468
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Speaker 3: Wilson was on a lot of that. Maybe two of

469
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 3: his catchers were just ridiculous. I mean his hands and

470
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: his ability to catch the ball away from his body,

471
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Speaker 3: which is something he cited that he worked on after

472
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Speaker 3: his rookie year. He considered himself quote too much of

473
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Speaker 3: a body catcher. And he is phenomenal now the way

474
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Speaker 3: he tacks the ball and how strong his hands are.

475
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Speaker 3: But I think, in hindsight, and some of it i'd

476
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Speaker 3: do with the only ram twenty four plays in the

477
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: first half, I get it, man, you'd like to get

478
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: back to unlocking some more of that production out of

479
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Speaker 3: Michael Wilson, who had twenty five catches in over three

480
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 3: hundred yards between the Niners in Jacksonville game.

481
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Michael was targeted seven times, same number as Marvin yet

482
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Speaker 1: Marvin had six catches to Michael's three, and I think

483
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that are throws that Jacoby would say,

484
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Speaker 1: including that deep shot or that final one on fourth

485
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: and two that fell incomplete. Again, better throws from the

486
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Speaker 1: quarterback to give the receiver an opportunity to catch the

487
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: football again. It's I think that's gonna be an interesting

488
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: dynamic over these next five games, provided Marvin is healthy.

489
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: He was in and out of the lineup for much

490
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Speaker 1: of that second half, was not on the field that

491
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Speaker 1: final drive because of a heel issue. You hope he

492
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Speaker 1: doesn't miss any time because these final five games, Paul

493
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Speaker 1: I would love to see, especially if Jacoby is around

494
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Speaker 1: next season. He is under contract, but if he is

495
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Speaker 1: your guy, at least temporarily or maybe all season, how

496
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Speaker 1: do you hand Marvin, Michael and Trey because there is

497
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Speaker 1: a progression, But is there a way for Michael to

498
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Speaker 1: get higher up on that list? Or do you call

499
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: certain plays for number fourteen versus number eighteen? And don't

500
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: forget you got to be able to run the ball

501
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: a little bit, which the Cardinals did on Sunday, but

502
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: that passing game, how do you even things out to

503
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: where everyone is having a hand in what the offense

504
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Speaker 1: is doing. Here.

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Speaker 3: Here's the other thing is to my I watching from

506
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Speaker 3: the sideline, I have to go back to the film

507
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: to verify this. Jamel Dean was on Michael Wilson a lot,

508
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: and he's cornerback one for Tampa. He's actually the number

509
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: one corner in the league when it comes to passer

510
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 3: rating aloud. He's missed a few games because of injury,

511
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: but his analytics were crazy good coming into that game.

512
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Speaker 3: And from what I could see, Number thirty five was

513
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 3: traveling with number fourteen quite a bit. In fact, on

514
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Speaker 3: the interception. Do you know who broke it up? Jamel

515
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 3: Dean And so he got his hand in there and

516
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: he's a long experience corner. And that's what happens. When

517
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Speaker 3: you go for twenty five catches and over three hundred

518
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 3: yards in your prior to games, you're gonna get the

519
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: best the opponent has to offer in terms of a

520
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: cover corner. And so that could be one adjustment that

521
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: could be the reality of life in the NFL. And

522
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: if Michael Wilson wants to know what that's like, go

523
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: talk to Trey McBride, because that's what happened to Trey

524
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 3: McBride as he was balling out two years ago. Oh boy,

525
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: did all the defensive coverages change?

526
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Speaker 1: And maybe that's the positive out of this. Okay, you

527
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: can't take or you can't put your number one guy

528
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: on all three. But if you're gonna choose to limit

529
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Speaker 1: what Michael is able to do, Okay, Now it's incumbent

530
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Speaker 1: on Marvin to be productive, Trey to be productive, which

531
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Speaker 1: Tray has been. He continues to be by the way.

532
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Speaker 1: Fourth straight game with eight or more catches for Trey McBride, Wow,

533
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: best stretch of his career. So even though he is

534
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: the focal point of every single defensive coordinator, he is

535
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: still figuring out a way to get open, and not

536
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: only get open, but make catches and then score touchdowns.

537
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: He has eight this season for a tight end, which

538
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: is a lot, especially when you're talking about Arizona Cardinals

539
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: tight ends.

540
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Speaker 3: He is in such a different zone, he has such

541
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 3: a different personality between the white lines on game day,

542
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 3: it's remarkable. After the touchdown catch, he came back to

543
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 3: the sideline and he had silenced the Tampa crowd and

544
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: so with all the Bucks fans sitting on their hands,

545
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 3: you could hear a lot what you know, he was

546
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: just screaming out that's what I do, That's what I do.

547
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: And there was a few other explotos mixed in there.

548
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: But that's the mentality he takes with him, and that's

549
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: why dude's feed off him. That's why he is the

550
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: new James Connor in the absence of number six. That

551
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: he's that guy and that everyone says, all right, we're

552
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: gonna walk into the biker bar with it's Trey McBride,

553
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: just that mentality and as fired up as he gets.

554
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: You saw earlier in the first half there was a

555
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: deep shot almost like a go route along the Cardinals

556
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: sideline and the throwing up a little bit beyond his reach. Well,

557
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 3: he thought he was held early in the route and

558
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: it disrupted the timing with and you saw him go

559
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 3: after the corner and he sort of half headbutted him

560
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: and he was really frustrated that it didn't draw a

561
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: flag and he's probably lucky he didn't draw a flag

562
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: for his retaliation, but he was letting the cornerback know

563
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 3: at that point, no, Moss, that's not gonna happen again.

564
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Speaker 1: By the way, this note for Trey McBride and I

565
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: know you keep in regular contact with Larry Fitzgerald. So

566
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: the next time you speak with Fitzpaul, just let him

567
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: know that a number of his records I don't think

568
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: will ever be broken. Talking about number eleven, but Trey

569
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: McBride did break one of Larry Fitzgerald's team records. That

570
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: is consecutive games with at least five receptions or more.

571
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Speaker 1: Really fourteen straight games for Trey McBride, knocking off Larry

572
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald for that mark. So again, that's again numbers. I'll

573
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: go back. There are great numbers individual collective, but you

574
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: go back three and nine, those are the only two

575
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: numbers that matter at twenty twenty five. You're absolutely right.

576
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: And it's sort of a running joke with Trey McBride,

577
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: the whole Jackie Smith thing, right, every time he does

578
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: something significant, did Jackie Smith do that?

579
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Right? I mean, we sort of joke about that. So

580
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: it's good that another soon to be Hall of Famer

581
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 3: is actually in the equation now he's breaking records, not

582
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: a just the former all time great Cardinals tight end,

583
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: but Larry Fitzgerald, who, by the way, speaking of keeping

584
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: in touch, it's been several months. I just try and

585
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: get him on one of our radio shows. And he

586
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: responded by by saying he would like me to buy

587
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: season tickets for Brophy Football. And so that's the sort

588
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 3: of snark you get from from number eleven when you

589
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: reach out to him, and you know, so, no, Larry

590
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: My Friday nights, I'm not able to go to every

591
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: Brophy football game.

592
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Speaker 1: I just think you should call it. Your callis bluff.

593
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: You say, sure, I've got it. I'm in road too,

594
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: don't you see me every Friday night?

595
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was one game they were playing against Tucson's Salpoint.

596
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to Tucson.

597
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry real quick here, because again we talk about

598
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: everyone talks about because it's the recency bias, but how

599
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: games are finished. We discussed how the game started, but

600
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: let's go over some of the items on how it finished,

601
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: because it has been a talking point, it will continue

602
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: to be a talking point, because again, it's the decision,

603
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: it's the play call, it's the play execution. Fourth quarter,

604
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: ten and a half minutes to go in the ballgame,

605
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: you are at your own thirty nine yard line, trailing

606
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten, and I did not mine the decision

607
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: either decision because, as Jonathan Gannon said postgame, we were

608
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: in four down mode. So they knew going into that

609
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: drive that they were going to be in four down territory.

610
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: That's why on third and one you take that deep

611
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: shot that falls incomplete, because you knew you had another down.

612
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: Now the fourth and one toss play to Bam Knight.

613
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: Now you can discuss whether that was maybe the right decision,

614
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: although again on the broadcast, Daryl Johnston pointed out that

615
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: they were not. Everyone blocked correctly. That allowed the Buccaneers

616
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: to snuff out the run for no game.

617
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 3: So as soon as they ran that toss and they

618
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: tried to attack the edge, to me, my first thought was, oh,

619
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Speaker 3: Vidavea factor, Vidavea. You don't want to go through the

620
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: Aarb gap because Vidavea will be right there, especially if

621
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Speaker 3: you're running to the left, because you want to run

622
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: behind Paris Johnson Junior. So that was part of it.

623
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Speaker 3: Anthony Nelson, big dude, six seven, three hundred something, I mean,

624
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: he had a lot to blow up that play and

625
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: and stop any chance of that working. And then Todd

626
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: Bowles after the game, he eat cited that, you know

627
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: what we did our film study and we had a

628
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 3: sense of where that play was going. And that's what

629
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Speaker 3: Todd Bowles does. He did that for two years as

630
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: the Cardinals defensive coordinator. It was stinking remarkable to listen

631
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: to him on the sideline and call out where he

632
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 3: thought the play was going. His accuracy rate is stupid

633
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: impressive and it earned him a head coaching job. You

634
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: look back now, you did bring Dan good job with

635
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 3: that dysfunctional Jets franchise, and look what he's doing with

636
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. If they hang on, this will

637
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: be their four straight division title. So looks that's one

638
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: of the better defensive minds in the NFL. And they

639
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: had it, They had it schemed up pretty well.

640
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Speaker 1: Here's the quote from Todd Bowles. The formation told us

641
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: the ball was going outside and that's again film study

642
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Gannon talked about it all week long. Todd Bowles,

643
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: same side of the ball, line of scrimmage, if you will.

644
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 1: And it's what JG looks at as far as one

645
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Speaker 1: of the pre eminent defensive minds in the league. And

646
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: it happened not only once, but twice on the final

647
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: play of the game. The past step fell in complete

648
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: to Michael Wilson, Todd Bowles game to reporters, we kind

649
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: of knew what the route was, and the route was

650
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: jumped and there was traffic, and the ball fell incomplete,

651
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: turnover on downs for the second time in the second half,

652
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals again lose twenty to seventeen.

653
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: So what does it make you think of the details?

654
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: How NFL games can come down to one or two plays. Now,

655
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: if you convert either one of those plays, I mean

656
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: you're gonna end up in the end zone. Does that

657
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: mean you're gonna end up in the win column? No,

658
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: not necessarily, But that's what happens when you have seven

659
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: losses by four points or fewer. You tend to look

660
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: at a sequence, a number of plays you can count

661
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 3: on one hand as being decisive and instrumental and dictating

662
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: the outcome of the game. And that's why that's why

663
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: you hear head coaches get into the minutia. That's why

664
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: you hear them drill down so into such a such

665
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 3: depth because games in the NFL are decided on things

666
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: like that. But before the fire fourth down play in

667
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: the final possession, you know you didn't get out of

668
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 3: bounds in the first down play, so you lost twenty

669
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 3: to thirty seconds. Arguably, you know you didn't get out

670
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: of bounds on the second completion, so you know there's

671
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: definitely end of the game mechanics if you will, that

672
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 3: can be improved. Once again, it doesn't guarantee you're getting

673
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 3: all the way down the field and getting in the

674
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: field goal range or getting into the end zone. But

675
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: I do believe that when you look back on it,

676
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: there's gonna be plenty to learn from. When watching the film.

677
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: Frank Sanders joined me on Cardinal Talk and we had

678
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: this discussion because something was said. It was either by

679
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Frank or a caller, and I brought up the fact

680
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: that something that you always say because it's the one

681
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: player taking their one term to make their one mistake.

682
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, I think because of

683
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: where the season is, how late it is, and you

684
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: are losing games, that now individuals are taking their one

685
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: moment to say I'm gonna make the play, and whether

686
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: that's offense defense, and now all of a sudden, so

687
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: in the details get lost because you were supposed to

688
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: do X, you chose to do why and Z is

689
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: what happened and it was a failure. And Frank says absolutely,

690
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,959
Speaker 1: because everyone believes I'll be the guy to turn things around,

691
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: whether it's this particular drive, the half, whatever it is.

692
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: And you're waiting for that playmaker to make a play,

693
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: but you turn to your left and the right. Okay,

694
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: well they're not doing it. I'm gonna try him.

695
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: Frank is such a talented athlete, right, so stinking talented

696
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: that he actually was a standout baseball player in college

697
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 3: and got drafted. So here'd be the baseball analogy. It's

698
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: a ninth inning and you're down by one run. I'm

699
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: gonna hit the home run to tie this. No, no, no, no,

700
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: just get on base. Just get on base, maybe get

701
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: to second base, get in scoring position. Just do your job,

702
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: do your little bit and win it as a team,

703
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: don't win it as an individual. So I do agree

704
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 3: with that. I think yes, in the moment, oh boy,

705
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: or under two minutes, we got to get into scoring range,

706
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 3: fueld goal range, got to get into the end zone.

707
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 3: It's my turn to exercise my skill set and be

708
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: the hero. No, just do your part, be part of

709
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: the overall game winning drive. And I do sense that

710
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: Jacoby Brissett is trying to impact a young team in

711
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: that way, trying to trying to instill that sort of message.

712
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: That's why you hear receivers say that you can't possibly

713
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: practice every situation, every look you're going to get. And

714
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: so that's why, because there's only so much practice time,

715
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: so only so much time out on the field. That's

716
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: why Jacoby Brissett goes above and beyond with a film work.

717
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: That's why he's texting his receivers with film clips. Okay,

718
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 3: we didn't practice this, but if Todd Bowles goes with

719
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: this look, we're gonna do this capeche and they're like, yep,

720
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 3: I got it. Okay, take a look at this as

721
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 3: an example. Here's a film clip. And so that's the

722
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: sort of stuff that Jacoby Brissett is doing because he

723
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: knows that's what NFL games can come down to.

724
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: You look at that final drive, your reference to Greg

725
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: Dorts does not get out of bounds after the three

726
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: yard catch, So what happens twenty six seconds elapse off

727
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: the clock. Michael Carter doesn't get out of bounds after

728
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: his five yard reception. What happens twenty six seconds elapse

729
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: off the clock. And again, it's great when it works

730
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: and you do something that maybe is above and beyond,

731
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: but when it doesn't, it gets magnified. And I think

732
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: we're at that point where things are getting magnified because again,

733
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 1: execution and details, and that's keeping this Cardinals team out

734
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: of the win column.

735
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 3: And guess what, You're gonna get an angry Rams team

736
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: this week. You're gonna get a Rams team that has

737
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: been known for the details that as a veteran quarterback

738
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: who has been there and done that and seeing everything,

739
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: you have a Rams team that has done most of

740
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: this season a really good job getting after the quarterback.

741
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 3: And so you're gonna have your hands full. You're gonna

742
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: have a head coach and an offensive mind that the

743
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: rest of the league studies final two months of the

744
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 3: Cardinals season, nearly every single offense is from the Sean

745
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 3: McVay tree. And now this week you get Sean McVay himself,

746
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: and he is really good at innovating stuff week to week,

747
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 3: to the point where opposing head coaches and offensive coordinators

748
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: in the league will start their Monday by watching Rams

749
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 3: game film. That's how well respected and innovative Sean McVay is.

750
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 3: So now you get him twice in the final five games,

751
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: and once again you better be on the details because

752
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: he lives to exploit the details, not unlike what Todd

753
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 3: Bowles does defensively. Rams saw their six game winning streak

754
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: snapped yesterday in Carolina. Three Matthew Stafford turnovers, two interceptions,

755
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: won to pick six and he fumbled the ball. So

756
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: you talk about an angry team coming to town, Yeah,

757
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: that would be the Rams coming to town on Sunday.

758
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 3: Speaking of angry, Oh, there's a segue the Angry Bird

759
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: Award for week thirteen, which was not Lucky thirteen. It

760
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: still remains unlucky. Here on Cardinals cover two. You know what,

761
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the guy who is miked up

762
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 3: because you know, maybe, just maybe we'll get some cross

763
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: promotion and then micd up this week. Maybe they'll include

764
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: a you know, a quick you know mention of the

765
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 3: Angry Bird Award going to a Keem Davis Gaither leading

766
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: tackler with ten. I thought he was physical out there.

767
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: I thought he set a tone not unlike a mac

768
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: Wilson senior. He was that dude quite often in the game,

769
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 3: and I just I saw him just the eyeball test,

770
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 3: flying around and so when I went and I looked

771
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: at the defensive stats, I'm like, yep, he's your leading tackler.

772
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: Makes sense. And so a Keen Davis Gaither, who I

773
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 3: think has been an underrated guy, has made some plays.

774
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: He's gotten his hands on the football. Not to mention,

775
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: he has an appreciation for classic cars. I learned last week.

776
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: So that to him and XAVI and Collins. So that's

777
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: a double ding. We need more of those guys in

778
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 3: that locker room. But yes, for that reason, the Angry

779
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 3: Bird Award goes to a DG.

780
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: I could see ADG putting that angry Bird up on

781
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: the dash of one of those classic cars, you know,

782
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: just hang it like the fuzzy dice from the rear

783
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: view mirror.

784
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,399
Speaker 3: That'd be good. That'd be good. Well, if we had

785
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: more than one, i'd give it to him.

786
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Here's a quick trivia question for you, Paul, something that

787
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: I noticed this morning when I was looking at the

788
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: snap counts. Come on, O tell me we know. I'll

789
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: give you the first two. Budda Baker, Jalen Thompson. They

790
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 1: lead the team in defensive snaps played this season.

791
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 3: Okay, who is number three defensive snaps played? Number three?

792
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: It's really good. Can't be a defensive lineman because they're

793
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: on rotations. Same with the outside linebackers. I would presume

794
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Cody Simon didn't start, even though he's played one hundred

795
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps each last four or five games.

796
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 3: Doing math in my head, let's see here number three

797
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: in defensive snaps played. I mean, there's no way it's

798
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: kaleis right, there's no chance. Can't be a defensive lineman.

799
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of the corners, they've been in

800
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: and out, so only Denzel Burke has played recently. Can't

801
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: be Garret Williams because he missed a bunch of games. Wow,

802
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: I'm it's your angry bird. Oh okay, okay, I thought

803
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 3: you were going, okay, all right, I should have gone

804
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: with that, all right, you know you're right. That's good.

805
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: And he has been available and even though he's not

806
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: in every package. Yeah, just the fact he's been there

807
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: for every single game.

808
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: It was Mac Wilson, but Mac hasn't played, and now,

809
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: based off the snap counts from Sunday, ADG has surpassed

810
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: Mac as far as defensive snat's played this season again

811
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: one of those signings in the offseason to where, Okay,

812
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: you're not really sure. Here's this guy who plays on

813
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: special teams like Mac did, come into this defense. We

814
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: think there's a role for you. And I wouldn't say

815
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: he's had a Mac Wilson type effect in year one

816
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: like Mac did, but I do think he's been reliable

817
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: and effective when needed based off his role.

818
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: He's not the pass rusher that Mac Wilson Senior is,

819
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 3: and I don't know his status or what his availability

820
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: might be, if any, the rest of the year, but

821
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: they've they've been missing their middle linebacker, their team captain,

822
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: a guy who is the resident badass on that side

823
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: of the ball, a guy who can get out into

824
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: coverage with running backs. He can go sideline to sideline.

825
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: You know, he can mug those A and B gaps

826
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 3: and come with a vengeance. He calls a really clean game.

827
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 3: You know, it's not just spitting out the play call

828
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 3: from Nick rawlis via the green dot. It's the audibles,

829
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 3: it's the checks. It's reacting to what you're seeing pre

830
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: snap and getting into write things post snap. You know,

831
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: there's no doubt Cody Simon the round four rookie has

832
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: been learning on the job and it's a lot of

833
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna look back in the end of

834
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: season and you're gonna be Tho's gonna be invaluable reps

835
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: for Cody Simon. But let's not sugarcoat it. You know,

836
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: the defense would be better off with mac Wilson Senior.

837
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 3: There was a reason he was voted a team captain.

838
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: There was a reason why that was never a position

839
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: battle from day one to camp, and we were dead

840
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: wrong about that. That was not a position battle at all.

841
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: That was Mac Wilson Senior's job.

842
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: And that's why these final five games become a lot

843
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: of importance as far as development with many of those

844
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: young players, whether it's Cody Simon or Denzel Burke, a

845
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: lot of those draft picks. Can you make these final

846
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: five games again, Momentum may not carry over, but confidence

847
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: does carry over from one season to the next. So

848
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: can you get some confidence at the end of December

849
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: early January to take you into the twenty twenty six

850
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: offseason and regular season. That is what I would like

851
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: to see not only from last year's draft class, but

852
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: the past three draft.

853
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: Classes, and can you make a statement in the division.

854
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: Rams are the best team in the division. Sorry, Seahawks,

855
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: Rams are the best team in the division. So if

856
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 3: you can knock them off at least split the season series,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. That is something that has carrying power,

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Speaker 3: staying power into the offseason. It gives you that confidence

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Speaker 3: have the ability to compete in this division. You saw

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Speaker 3: it with a one score loss at the very end

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Speaker 3: of Seattle. You saw it with a walkoff loss to

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers in Week three. You know the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals have. I've been there, stride for stride with these

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Speaker 3: other division teams at least Seattle and San Francisco. Now,

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Speaker 3: if you can go out and prove it against maybe

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl favor in the NFL right now, this

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Speaker 3: last game notwithstanding, I think that would go a long way,

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Speaker 3: at least in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: That came on Sunday, kicks off at two twenty five

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Speaker 1: from State Farm Stadium. Much more on that game as

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Speaker 1: the day's progress here on Cardinals cover two. As we

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Speaker 1: as we go full circle here, we'll let Paul go

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Speaker 1: because he does have some holiday shopping going. Uh needing

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Speaker 1: to get done, because you might as well get it

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Speaker 1: done now as opposed to waiting and procrastinating what you

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Speaker 1: typically do every single year.

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Speaker 3: It's true, it is cyber Monday, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: You know, I really should instill some urgency, but a

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Speaker 3: were probably not. I work better on deadline and be

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Speaker 3: let's be honest. After Cyber Monday elapses, what happens these days? Oh,

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Speaker 3: it's cyber Tuesday, it's cyber No, it's Cyber week, and

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Speaker 3: then it's going to be Cyber month. I mean, these

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Speaker 3: sales continue into infinity at this point.

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Speaker 1: Last minute Christmas shopping deals, that's what Paul likes to

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Speaker 1: rely on as you get closer to the tour.

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Speaker 3: Craig, you have a college student, all right at home.

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Speaker 3: I have a college student, and I have a sophomore

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Speaker 3: in high school. They're old enough to go ahead and execute,

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Speaker 3: all right, for their for their mother, for to do

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Speaker 3: some of this holiday shopping. I mean, I conveniently use

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Speaker 3: the football season. It is my excuse to it's an

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Speaker 3: excellent Oh yes, I outsourced a lot of stuff at

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Speaker 3: Cosa CALVC, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Wish I could say the same. I can't, but I

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Speaker 1: live vicariously through you, Paul and what you do. On

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Speaker 1: that note, we will put a lid on this edition

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Speaker 1: of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive

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Speaker 1: producer jim Mo Mohndre our associate producer Cody Fincher. For

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvc, I'm Craig Real Lou. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Delegate