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Speaker 2: Look at his movements, the most dangerous amount of the planet.

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Speaker 3: The one. It's left to WOA, wide eyed, drilled.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Wondergol, the soccer betting podcast from the

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Speaker 1: we'll go through the entire futures board for the upcoming

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Speaker 1: Champions League, maybe touch a little on Europa League. We'll

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Speaker 1: is out. Came out last week a couple interesting pots,

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Speaker 1: but before we do it, a quick big picture of

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Speaker 1: view of the betting board. These are the odds that

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Speaker 1: from bet three six five to win the tournament. Man

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Speaker 1: City of course is your clear favorite. They're two to one,

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Speaker 1: Inter at Letty Atletico Madrid they're all twenty five to

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Speaker 1: Dortmund and Benfica fifty RB Leipzig sixty six, Savia eighty

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Speaker 1: We'll start right there. I know that was a lot

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Speaker 1: I'll stick in Spain, not a surprise. Then I'll back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Club Bruga knocked Atletico Madrid out of the

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Speaker 3: People forget that two years ago when we first started

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think a lot of times when we

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Speaker 1: by group. Now, Group A, this is it. This is fun,

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Speaker 3: The biggest thing that happened was that Byron and Barca

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Speaker 2: Nope, I kept out him. Don't do it.

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Speaker 3: Byron could rotate a little bit maybe, although again we've

434
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 3: seen that against teams in the past they still win,

435
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 3: so that would certainly help them. Galatas Raie gets to

436
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 3: host United in the fifth match week as well, so

437
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,959
Speaker 3: that's probably what decides this group. Really though if Byron

438
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 3: holds Chalk and wins its matches it's supposed to there

439
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be a lot to go wrong for

440
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 3: galataster Ride at four to one to advance here. So

441
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 3: I love one of my favorite tickets that I've already

442
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 3: bet for the group with Galatasterie.

443
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean, they're putting up really good numbers.

444
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: They dominated qualifying, got through like, they've been really impressive,

445
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: and we talked about the talent base. I mean it's

446
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: it's a collection of players that have all played in

447
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: the Champions League for top top teams.

448
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 1: And they're known as the conqueror of Europe. Yeah, I

449
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: mean you can kind of like put this roster if

450
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: you just put this roster and put them on Benfica,

451
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: which which is not like that crazy to say or

452
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: like a you know, a Sporting Lisbon from from years

453
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: past or something, this this number would be eighty to one, right,

454
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: Like it's not yep, it's just because this is a

455
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 1: team coming from from the Turkish League.

456
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 4: That it's Benefica was that I believe two years ago

457
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: they were in the one hundred and fifty to two

458
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 4: hundred range for a while, and then last year I

459
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 4: believe they were one hundred to one, and then you

460
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 4: see as we see them continually making the round of sixteen,

461
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, this team is actually pretty good. Yeah,

462
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: short fifty to one. And it happened with i X too,

463
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 4: like you know when i X got raided for all

464
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: their great players and then we all had that hundred

465
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: to one ticket on them, and then you know, they

466
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: that Champions League that they should have won, what was

467
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: that three years ago? Two years ago? And then you

468
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 4: saw it last season when they were sitting you know,

469
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 4: one hundred and one even after they got raided. So

470
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: it's like it's, uh, we'll see if Gallatass right, you know,

471
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 4: wins the Turkish League again and they come back with

472
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 4: the same roster, there'll be one hundred to one, Like

473
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: this is how it goes.

474
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on to Group B. I also

475
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Speaker 1: want to just mention Thatchampions League is known as a

476
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: I think as a Chalky competition. But we get these

477
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: long shots through two later stages in the tournament all

478
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 1: the time, and you'll see at least one surprise group winner.

479
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: Bruce and Benfica were the ones last year. Then you'll

480
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: get was that we had Ben Vika last year. Yeah,

481
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, I didn't have Bruce.

482
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 3: One of us had Bruce, none of us had Yeah,

483
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: against them every match, every match.

484
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: But so it just bears repeating that. While yeah, it's

485
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,919
Speaker 1: it's probably going to go to City or Byron or

486
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Real Madrid or one of these big clubs, at the

487
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: very very end, those will be the teams that are

488
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: lifting in a trophy. These upstarts gate crash all the time.

489
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: So don't be afraid if we see another like viea

490
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: Real and uh even Inter what was Inter thirty three

491
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: to one.

492
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 2: Thirty four remind me.

493
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh freaking loukaku man keep that in mind.

494
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: Group B. Now there's Arsenal odds on it minus two

495
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: hundred to win it, Sevilla plus four fifty to the

496
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: second favorite PSV out of the Netherlands six to one,

497
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: Lens out of league oh seven to one. This sets

498
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: up well for Arsenal. I think we can all agree there.

499
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: None of our true believers in Sevilla, despite their prowess

500
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: as a as a tournament team, even even in down years,

501
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: they somehow win a win a lower level European trophy.

502
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: It seems like so I guess that the racer second

503
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: is wide open. BJ. What are your thoughts here?

504
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just going to straight fade Seville in this

505
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 4: group them not to advance at minus one twenty. I

506
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 4: think we've been through Sevilla so many times, but I'll

507
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 4: just reiterate it if maybe this is someone listening to

508
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 4: the first time for US, But Sevilla last season minus

509
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 4: eight expecting gold differential in Spain, they were a bottom

510
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,919
Speaker 4: three defense, allowing one point four to three actually per

511
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 4: ninety in the lowest scoring league among Europe's top five leagues.

512
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: Then they went through this insane LU run through the

513
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 4: Europa League knockout round or the knockout playoff round against

514
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: PSV who they'll be facing in this tie, Los on

515
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 4: XG over the two legs one point five to two

516
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: point eight. Then they played Finnerbace Los on xt G

517
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 4: point eight to two point eight. Then they went and

518
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 4: played Manchester United. If you remember that at the time,

519
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 4: Manchester United was dealing with a lot of injuries. They

520
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 4: had to play Harry Maguire at center back, like it

521
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 4: just wasn't a good situation for them. They did play them,

522
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 4: even unexpected goals and got through against them. They went

523
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 4: and played Juventus, lost to them on XG three to

524
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 4: three point eight, and then obviously beat Roma on penalties

525
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 4: and killed our twenty three to one ticket win. Roma

526
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 4: beat them on x G one point nine to point eight.

527
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 4: Like that's how insane their run was to get through

528
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: and win the Europa League. So if you're someone coming

529
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 4: in and be like, oh, Savilla they won the Europa League,

530
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 4: like they must have a good shot here to get through,

531
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 4: Like no, this team is awful. They've been awful so

532
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: to begin this season in La Liga, they've lost their

533
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: first three matches. They are one of my favorite teams

534
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 4: to fade in La Liga, but somehow they just keep

535
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: getting lucky in these type of European competitions. So you

536
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 4: look at the other two teams in this group, you

537
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: know PSV. If I were to bet one team or

538
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: the other, PSB or Lens, I would bet PSV. They

539
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 4: did lose some of their talent. You know, if you

540
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: look at PSB, there were one point four to five

541
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 4: actually for ninety minute team in the Netherlands last year,

542
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: which is the best mark of anybody there. But that

543
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: was half a season with Cody Gakpo, a full season

544
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 4: with Shabi Simones who was honestly one of the better

545
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: players in in the area. To Za, one of their

546
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 4: best midfielders, Cinghai is now moved on to Nottingham Forests

547
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 4: and there goes thirty eight percent of their goals. So

548
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: they did bring in some production to replace them, you know,

549
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: Lozano from Napoli, No Lang from Club Bruges, Like that's encouraging,

550
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: but the man, yeah, they're not going to produce that

551
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: type of production that gag poede simonk was doing it.

552
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 4: So they're not as a frightening as they were last season.

553
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 4: Then you look at Lens. You know they just lost

554
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: two of their best players, Alpenda who's obviously off to Leipzig, Fofana,

555
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 4: with the best midfielders, is off to the Saudi League.

556
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: They did make some encouraging additions, you know why, you

557
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 4: coming over from Montpellier who had a good finishing rate

558
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: last year nineteen goals, but asking him to replace opendous

559
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: production is asking a bit much. And then there's also

560
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: the fact that they ran insanely good defensively twenty eight

561
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: goals allowed off a forty three point three perspective expected

562
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: and Bryce sam but was only a plus four point

563
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: or five point four post shot actually plus minus keepers.

564
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 4: So it's basically just teams for whatever reason just couldn't

565
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: finish against them. So if they get some negative aggression

566
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: coming this season, which they've already seen it kind of

567
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 4: start the season, they've had to play Ren Monaco and

568
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 4: PS two to begainst. Season has not gone well. They've

569
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: gotten pretty well dominated in those three matches. If you

570
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: had to bet a team to get through, I think

571
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: it would be PSV. But I'm just going to straight

572
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 4: Betsavia not to advance and just basically just you know,

573
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: do a double chance between PSAV and Lens. You know,

574
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 4: there's another team to win their group that I like

575
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 4: with Arsenal on a parlay that I'll get to you

576
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: later in the show. But yeah, Arsenal should very very

577
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: easily cruise this. And honestly, Arsenal.

578
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 3: Arsenal may not be in the Europa League anymore, but they

579
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: got a Europa League ass group.

580
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: I mean, this is weak ship, man.

581
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Sevilla to finish exactly third, if they offered that,

582
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: I bet that, because that gets what gets that's what

583
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: gets them into the Europa League playoff round.

584
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: They can go do their magic.

585
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, like we had a conversation about

586
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: Sylvia before the year, like is this Mendeli bar improvement

587
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 3: real or is just like kind of a fluke it

588
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 3: was I think I'm pretty safe to say. I mean,

589
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: like in the series been been, you know, he's when

590
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: he's out there, their attacks good because he's so good

591
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: in the air, but they have no defenders, no defenders

592
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: and uh that's true. Sergio Ramos coming in save the day.

593
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: If they were to go, if they finished third and

594
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: they go play Liverpool in the in the playoff round.

595
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: Solid is gonna have to Gosa is gonna force and

596
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 3: move to Saudi Arabia before you have to play that match.

597
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: But but in seriousness, I just don't know who to

598
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: back here, like you mentioned it with PSB, Like I've

599
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: liked PSB and I bet PSB a lot in Europa

600
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 3: League last year, but I don't like, this is just

601
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: not the same team anymore. They lost it, they got raided,

602
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 3: and they always seem to have the next crew of

603
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: guys coming through. But it feels like a transitioneer for them.

604
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: And you know, no Gackpod no, no, no, Simon's no

605
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: sun all right, brand wait, just not that good of

606
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: a team.

607
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: So branth Waite was imperious for them in the in

608
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: the center of that defense last year. Now true he's

609
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: back home. Uh all right, So I think we can

610
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: just bet against Sevilla too with these teams as well,

611
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: Like it's yeah, you don't need to just lock it up.

612
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is like a minus one ten favorite against uh.

613
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: I believe Lens in the first match.

614
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: Although I already see myself betting Sevilla at home against

615
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: Arsenal in like a nice spot and with a good

616
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: number I think it's gonna be a really good look

617
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: for just for them at home.

618
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Uh, Group C Real Madrid minus one eighty eight, Napoli

619
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: last years Darlings plus two twenty five, Braga out of

620
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: Portugal twelve to one, and Hunyad Berlin how about it

621
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: twelve to one another looks straight pretty straightforward here. We

622
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: do tend to bet against Real Madrid in this competition

623
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: in the early stages. It's they know that they can

624
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: kind of get away with spotting FC Sheriff a win

625
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: or two in the group stage. It's still go to

626
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: the go to the final. But Anthony, you you have

627
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: some value on a on a group winner and it's

628
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: unfortunately not Real Madrid. This would have been your first

629
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: I thought, maybe we see your first ever bet on

630
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: Los Blancos.

631
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think I have ever bet Real Madrid

632
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 3: my life, maybe once or twice, but this is not

633
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: one of those times.

634
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Uh. You know.

635
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: They they scored another late winner against Gatafe to just

636
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: absolutely break my heart.

637
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: If you watched the if you they put.

638
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 3: It like nine minutes on the board and I'm like,

639
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: are you people serious?

640
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: How were there nine minutes?

641
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: And what that actually meant was, we're gonna play until

642
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: Real Madrid goes up two to one, and then we're

643
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: gonna call the game immediately.

644
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: It's basically what happened.

645
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: The goalie fumbles the ball, Bellingham taps it in, does

646
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: his patented Carlos Alcoraz inspired celebration. Now, and I was burnt,

647
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: But that's sour grapes, that's water to the bridge. I

648
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 3: don't think there's a huge gap here. I think Napoli

649
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: is still as good as these top teams. And yes

650
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: I have Real Madrid slightly better, but not enough to

651
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: the point where Napoli can't tear this defense apart with

652
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: Kabar Scalia and Osaman on the break. And we've seen

653
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: Napoli play in possession a lot. There have not been

654
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: a lot of examples where they had to play out

655
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 3: of possession, but those examples where we have seen it

656
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: against Liverpool in the Champions League last year, you know,

657
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: some matches against Inter where Inter had more of the ball.

658
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Like they have proven themselves.

659
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: To be a very good transitional team because they have

660
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: an elite ribbler and an elite athlete you know, in

661
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: Osaman and finisher. So the two of those guys, man,

662
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: that's a better winger striker partnership than Venetias and whatever

663
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: Real Madrid's thrown out there right now, and Venetias is

664
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: already dealing with an injury, so that could matter. I

665
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: do expect him to be back in more than enough

666
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: time for that matchup, because they're going to play the

667
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: second and fifth match weeks. But in a group where

668
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 3: I really don't really think brag is any good. Unyoon

669
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: will be annoying as hell to play, but I don't

670
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: think that defense holds up.

671
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: I think that that's gonna be the biggest thing of this.

672
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna talk about unjy in a lot

673
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: this year and how great they were defensively last year.

674
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: I just don't know how sustainable that is, given with

675
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: what league they play in. So I think there's gonna

676
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: be some defensive regression for Unon. You even saw in

677
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: Europe last year. I mean, their defense wasn't as good

678
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: in Europe as it was in the Bundesliga. So I

679
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: think that this is a pretty straightforward group. You know,

680
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: maybe Unyoon pulls an upset, but for me, if if

681
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: you can find I don't think any markets are having it,

682
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: but if you can find to finish last. I like

683
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: Braga there especially like even up against Unjon. I think

684
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: Unyo is a better, much better team. But from a

685
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: betting perspective, I just thin Napoli plus two forty is

686
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: a bit short. I expected them to be a slight dog,

687
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: not a big to real Madrid group d I.

688
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Think this is what you'd call the opposite of the

689
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: group of Death, the softest group when you look top

690
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: to bottom, the group of life, the group of life,

691
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty excited to play this one. Inter is

692
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: odds on slightly minus one twenty five, Benfica plus two

693
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: to fifty. Then we have real Associate Dodd from the

694
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Basque Country there plus five fifty and RB Salzburg coming

695
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Champions League mainstays lately they are eight to one. I

696
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: likes Socio DoD to top the group here. I think

697
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: that this thing is wide open. Yeah, Intern deserves to

698
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: be a favorite, but of all the favorites, Like, what

699
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: would the price be on Arsenal in this group, it

700
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: would be minus what two twenty five or so, maybe

701
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: even little shorter. This is this thing's wide open. It's

702
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: just the perfect group to go after a long shot,

703
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: and I'd rather plays Sociodd who I think has a

704
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: has more legs to pull the upset and top of

705
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: the group than Salzburg. Considering how just how good this

706
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: defense was in La Lego last year, and it's a

707
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: settled squad. Same manager has been there forever. I think

708
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: what twenty eighteen he's been there for. This is the

709
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: team we've liked. I think he was a guy. Did

710
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: he replace David Moyes. That's how long he's been there.

711
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: So they kind of just took a lot of the

712
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: boxes for a team that I'd want it back to

713
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: be there when the dust settles, because there should be

714
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: a lot of dust in a group like this. Any

715
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: team could beat any of the other ones on any

716
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: given match day. Anthony, I know you're coming with me here.

717
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Benfica's coming down the mountain. You know,

718
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: last year Benfica was the team that we all backed

719
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: and said, like, how are they plus three fifty two

720
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: advance in a group with PSG and Juventus and we

721
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 3: rode the Benfica train. But now they lose you know,

722
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: Nunia's two summers ago and Ramos this summer, and they've

723
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: kind of lost a ton of talent here, and I think,

724
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 3: as much as I love Roger Schmid, I think that

725
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: there is regression looming for this Benfica team, and thus

726
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking to play against them. I think Enters a

727
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: clearly better team. They showed that in the Champions League

728
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: last year, and I think that, you know, Benfica and

729
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: Socia DoD are pretty much on equal footing for me

730
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: in terms of true talent. You know, Soci Dad have

731
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: had a slow start in the season, but a lot

732
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 3: of that has come down to injuries. They've had to

733
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: play a couple of matches without their their best players

734
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: and as a result have not been very good. But

735
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: this is a a Benfica team that has lost enough

736
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: for me to be kind of just generally out on

737
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: them overall.

738
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: And you knew that they were going to be over

739
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: at them and Enter a little bit right inter just

740
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: went to the final. Benfica was a cinderre l last year.

741
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: They're going to be a little charged, a little bit

742
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: of a premium, especially in a group like this, so

743
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: and like, I'd much rather play the team with the

744
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: defensive record that Socio Dad than what could be a

745
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: young upstart from Salzburg. Who could you lose six to

746
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: one to any team in this competition but also win

747
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: three three nail against them. So we'll be on Socia

748
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Dodd here. BJ You're going in a different direction.

749
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: Though, Yeah, I like Nentwered to win this group of

750
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 4: minus one twelve. I think the Price is a tad

751
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: short team that's coming off a Champions League final, And

752
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: you know, you look at the center team comparatively to

753
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: what the team they were last year, and I'm asking

754
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 4: the question. You know, Anthony made a great point about

755
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: Benefica and what they've lost and kind of how they've

756
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: are coming down the mountain. And even if you look

757
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: at Benefico last season, you know, a lot of their

758
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 4: great numbers are for half a season with Enzo Fernandez

759
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: and then also a full season again Salo Ramos. Now

760
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: they don't really have a true striker that can give

761
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: them to the type of production that Ramos did. And

762
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 4: even if you look at their results in Portugal, like, yes,

763
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 4: they were close to a one point seven actually differential

764
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: for ninety like for much of the season, like that's

765
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: incredibly impressive. But when you look at their matches against Sporting,

766
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: against Porto and against Braga. They only won two of

767
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 4: those six matches, and they only had a plus three

768
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 4: expected gold differential in those matches, so it's a lot

769
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 4: of stat padding against you know, the rest of Portugal,

770
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 4: which is a steep, steep drop off between those over

771
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: those top four teams. Enter just signed benjam Bavarred to

772
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 4: replace Screener. I know he's not gonna play the central

773
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: center back role, but they obviously lose Onnana, but interns

774
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 4: on a team that needs to play out of the back.

775
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: You know, they play out of three five two. They're

776
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 4: a team that's much much better playing direct playing in transition.

777
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: They still have Laterro Martinez, they have the same midfield,

778
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: the same wing backs, and they went inside Anthony's boy

779
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 4: Torom to play up top with Martinez and it's and

780
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 4: it's been a great partnership so far. I mean inters

781
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: often running in Syria. Three matches in eight nothing and

782
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 4: they just pounded for Orententina for nothing three point seven

783
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: expected goals. I think this team is still really really

784
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: good and shouldn't you know, be priced this low against

785
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: what Benefica is. And I agree with you guys, I

786
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 4: do like associate ad to advance, but I think the

787
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: talent level comparatively between them and Inter it's it's pretty steep.

788
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: So I do like Inter minus one twelve. I think

789
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 4: the price is just a little too short on a

790
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: team that talent wise has much much more talent than

791
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: both Benefica an soci dentist group in Salzburg. It's the

792
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 4: same story every single season. Yes, they will be in

793
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,479
Speaker 4: the Champions League every single year, but they will also

794
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 4: get raided every single year because they are a feeder

795
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 4: club to RB Leipzig and other clubs around the world,

796
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: where they just bring in the nineteen twenty year old

797
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 4: sensations and then if they hit for one season, then

798
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: they're gone. You see no okaphors nowadaysy Milan Cesco is

799
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 4: now at RB Leipzig, So there you go. There's your

800
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 4: two best attackers gone. So I don't think that much

801
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: of a shot in this group.

802
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: They will always be fun though, they gonna be young,

803
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: the be tough to beat.

804
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 4: They'll always they'll always go for it. They will never get.

805
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: A good dogged back at home. I mean, this is

806
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: the most I think that's fair.

807
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: You know, the group of life conversation about like how

808
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: this group is most balanced, I think it's a good point,

809
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 3: but I do agree that enters clearly the class. Benfika

810
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: to me, just like Arthur Cabrals is the guy that's

811
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: gonna happen, Like he wasn't even the first choice at Fiorentina,

812
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 3: like so they just lost a lot at some point.

813
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: It's you have to Group DES also feels like it

814
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: like they were so good defensively last year, and it

815
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: just like given how Schmid plays, there's so aggressive. I

816
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: think that there's real regression coming there and you're already

817
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 3: you're you're kind of seeing it in Portugal, like they've

818
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: can seeded over one XG the last two two three matches,

819
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: So maybe there's some signs of progression there out on Benfica.

820
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Interer for PJ, Socia Da for Antony and myself different ways,

821
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: Group E. This is where our our buddy Diego Simioni

822
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: is going to be applying his trade, his at letty

823
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: or minus one sixty three favorites to win it. Lazio

824
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: three to one, fine Ord six to one, it's Celtic

825
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: nine to one. We donated so much money on a group.

826
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: Of vomit or something like that.

827
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 2: I may don't disrespect find we the nord.

828
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: Okay, can I talk about find for a second, because

829
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: I know Anthony likes them to advance here. I think

830
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: there's some I think there's some problems with them, especially

831
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 4: going into these first couple of Bash weeks. Because Santiago Jomnez,

832
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 4: their best striker, is going to be suspended for two matches.

833
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 4: That's not great. Their starting goalkeeper is going to be

834
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: injured until the beginning of November. That's not great. They

835
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 4: just lost the Era de VS player of the season

836
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: in Kochu, who's now off to Benefica. Their midfielders solidity there,

837
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: that's not really great. I want to fade Lazio like

838
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: everybody else, right, I mean that we've been talking about

839
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: them so much on this podcast. They did retool a

840
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: little bit this summer, but still, I mean, it's not

841
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 4: enough to make up for the amount of negative regression

842
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: that's coming for them. I've let it go minus one

843
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 4: seventy five to win this group, and I saw that,

844
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 4: I kind of laughed. I was just like, really, they're

845
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 4: that long to win this group, so no no chance

846
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 4: in hell I'm playing that. And then so I went

847
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: and I looked at Celtic guys, know the manager of

848
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 4: the Celtic right.

849
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: Now, Brog Brendan Rodgers.

850
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: B Rog, He's back, He's beat Celtic host Koblu set up,

851
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: set him up perfectly to continue the style of play,

852
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 4: continue to play this high pressing intensity style throughout Scotland

853
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 4: and hopefully that it would translate into the Champions League,

854
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 4: which last year, if you remember, Celtic just got caught

855
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: on the rise to the wrong side of variants in

856
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 4: a few matches and they really could have got through

857
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 4: that group. But everything we know about Brenton Rodgers is

858
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 4: he wants to play slow, pragmatic build up style, build

859
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 4: out of the back and a lot of short passing

860
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 4: combinations to get the ball moving up the field. Not

861
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: really the post Koglu like one touch, let's go, let's

862
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: get the ball moving forward. I highly doubt that's going

863
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: to work in this group. You know, they lose Joe

864
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 4: Touch to the Saudi League, they still have a lot

865
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 4: of their great attackers through Hashi is still there, good

866
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 4: solidity in the midfield and experienced center backs as well.

867
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: So I thought about playing Celtic, but I think the

868
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 4: way to attack this group because fy and RD is

869
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: going to be dealing with those injuries and suspensions, also

870
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 4: trying to retool and replace one of their best players.

871
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 4: I think waiting is the best possible outcome for them,

872
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 4: and seeing what happens after their first two matches and

873
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 4: then playing them to advance right after that, because plus

874
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: one fifty, I think it is a little short considering

875
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna play Celtic and Athletic Co Madrid

876
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: to begin this and then once they get Santiago Amnez back,

877
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 4: they have back to back matches against Lazio, and I

878
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: think that's where you can attack fine Ord and really

879
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: get them through this group. So I'm gonna wait and

880
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 4: play fine Ord to advance after their first two.

881
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Matches, and Anthony or I've got nothing in this group.

882
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: I was tempted by Celtic, but I'll probably just play

883
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: them game to game, but they just hurt me too much.

884
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 1: Last year. That Real Madrid match to open was just insane. Anthony,

885
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: what do you have?

886
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I'm a little worried about Jimenez because

887
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: of the suspension certainly lowers their attacking output. This is

888
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 3: a guy that was monitored by Man United in Brighton

889
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: this summer.

890
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: Like the big clubs.

891
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: Were calling, and the big clubs were called for Arnie

892
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: Slot to come and be the next manager. I mean

893
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: Tottenham had him on the short list. So I think

894
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: that that gives you kind of an indication of what

895
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 3: Finnoord has become in the Dutch League. And and I

896
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 3: think that they're absolutely poised to be dangerous in this group.

897
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: This is a team that, you know, for large stretches

898
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: of the match against Roma in the first leg, was

899
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: the better side in the in the Europa League group

900
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: stage first round last year, Uh, they pretty much rolled through,

901
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: uh the group stage. You know, they had some defensive issues,

902
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: but they bolsted up their defense, brought a new left

903
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: back in Hartman, and a new center back and Hanko.

904
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: And I do still like this midfield duo with with

905
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: Weafer and Timber like they're they're good enough. Uh. And

906
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: then you know with with Jimenez, like they're gonna be

907
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: really tough out. So I know they're not gonna hap

908
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: him for the first two matches, but I'm still backing

909
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: the Nord and I trust the manager and trusted this team.

910
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: So in a group where there's three teams, I really

911
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: don't like, you know, I think it's a huge jump

912
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: up for Celtics, and we kind of saw that at

913
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: parts of last year's group stage. And then you know,

914
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: I let the and Lazzio, two teams that you know

915
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: I have no love lost for. I'm going to back

916
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: the Nord and to h to advance here. I did

917
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: not bet them to win the group because the suspensions

918
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: are certainly concerned. But they spend a lot of money

919
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: this summer too. People forget like they went out and spent,

920
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 3: So I think this is a real team. I don't

921
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 3: think they're necessarily going to fall off the way I'm

922
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: concerned about, like say a psv uh. And thus I

923
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 3: will I'll back them again, be the Nord.

924
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: I give it, I give it to We'll say Christmas

925
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: before you're all in at Letty this year.

926
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: Anti, I just I just don't think I ever will be.

927
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Now we'll see.

928
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I look if if they become like this defensive juggernaut again.

929
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: And that's the thing like so many of these with

930
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: the world in general in England has driven this is

931
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: there's been so much of a tilt toward attacking via

932
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: tactics and how managers are setting their teams up and

933
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: and there's less stout defending.

934
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: In Europe right now than there's ever been.

935
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: I'd argue, even like a Barcelona every time they go on,

936
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 3: every time they go into Europe to get destroyed transition

937
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: that I could respect in Lati if they wanted to

938
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: do that, but they're not going to.

939
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: They're not doing that.

940
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see, I mean, we'll see if it works.

941
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 3: Will I will never bet I let you win the

942
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: Champions League this season.

943
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: Never, I don't care.

944
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: You guys will never convince me of that.

945
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: All right, uh Group F this is the group of

946
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: Death PSG. Understatement, Yeah, it's probably the best we've ever seen.

947
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: Group F is has PF PSG at the top. But

948
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: they are the only favorite that is an odds on

949
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: in the entire tournament. They're plus one ten to win

950
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: the set. Newcastle plus two twenty five looks a little

951
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: like a lot of respect for for the Magpies. I think,

952
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: uh Ace Malan five to one, Dortmund plus five point fifty.

953
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: I think that you could make an argument for basically

954
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: any team. It's hard. I guess we're Dortmund right now.

955
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: But Newcastle to me looks like the the worst price

956
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: of the bunch. I'm gonna be going against them, I

957
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: think a lot in this Champions League. I think people

958
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: were were just itching to like label them at dark

959
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: horse in this competition. And and then the draw came

960
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: out and nobody stopped doing it, like it's like it's

961
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: this price is crazy. I think.

962
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: Well, I could see like if they weren't pots and

963
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: they got drawn like Byron, PSG and BARSA, we'd be like, well,

964
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: you know they're pretty good, right, I know it's good.

965
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Right, Like that's the thing like this this this, the

966
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: price is what's killing me here.

967
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: Uh well, it actually moved a lot the market, so

968
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: there were some openers. There were some soft openers, to

969
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: be fair, but most books opened like PSG right around

970
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: where they are, Dortmund and Newcastle kind of in the

971
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: middle ish like three P fifty range, and then Milan

972
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: was the clear like fourth team.

973
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the.

974
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: Market has kind of gone where I would have gone

975
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: on that, which is like Newcastle's probably closer to PSG

976
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: and Doormand is probably closer to Milan. And you could

977
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: actually make a case I think that Milan should be

978
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: ahead of Dormant.

979
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: They are starting to get there in some books.

980
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they are.

981
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know the market's caught on here. I

982
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 3: just throw my hands up in the air and say,

983
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 3: hope PSG advances. Maybe, I guess I hope they win

984
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: the group since I just met them in the Champions League.

985
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: But Newcastle does set up well to beat Dortmund.

986
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: Man, I think that that's the.

987
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 3: Well.

988
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 2: If they beat dormand they just need to beat Milan,

989
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: I still think they're better than Milan too.

990
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't think it. It's it's this. They

991
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: should be this short to win the group, is what

992
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't know, it just seems a little crazy.

993
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: I mean, even like their their big picture future. They

994
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: were what twenty two to one to win the Champions League,

995
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: and they drifted a little bit after being joined into

996
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: this set. Yeah, that's what would What would the market

997
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: have done in that? What would that market have done

998
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: if they were drawn into uh what is it with

999
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: the group d with inter As, Sociodod and Salzburg right Like,

1000
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: they would have been like sixteen to one or fourteen

1001
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: to one. So I just I think that there's a

1002
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: lot of peril for them to not get through here,

1003
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: and we're starting to maybe see some cracks in the

1004
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: armor in the Premier League Castle, Yeah yeah.

1005
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 3: I mean they lost the City, They lost the City

1006
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: on the road.

1007
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: They lost to.

1008
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: Brighton on the road, right, yeah, And they had like

1009
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: a pretty performance against Newcastle against Liverpool and then like

1010
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 3: collapsed in like five minutes.

1011
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: I go, yeah, I mean they lost.

1012
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: You could you could You can tell me that. Okay,

1013
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: they kind of teams who play in the Champions League

1014
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: all the time.

1015
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can tell me they lost the three

1016
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: best teams in the league. And I wouldn't necessarily betterny like

1017
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah.

1018
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you watch it, Like when you watch

1019
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I think when you say that, right and then you

1020
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: look at how they lost in those games, you'd be like, Okay,

1021
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: maybe there's some issues here. I think like if if

1022
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: Tottenham had lost those matches in that fashion, you'd be like,

1023
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm out, not.

1024
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 2: Really, That's why I think Tottenham is too.

1025
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 3: I would say, like, well, I hope they play some

1026
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: teams that are like a little worse so we get

1027
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: a better better. I mean, they also beat Villa by

1028
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 3: like four on opening Day and like destroyed them, right.

1029
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's aston Villa, Like that's asked Villa. They

1030
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: played him at home, like you're playing in the that's.

1031
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: Like an average team.

1032
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're playing.

1033
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: How much better is Villa versus like a Doorman or

1034
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: New Villa.

1035
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 1: Would Villa would be a longer price than both Milan

1036
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: and Dortmund in this group.

1037
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they be that much longer though,

1038
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: that's case.

1039
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: I think that this this is here's I think you have.

1040
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: A case from Milan. I'm curious what it is and.

1041
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 1: I think that Yeah, I agree with him too, because

1042
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: I think they the second team you have to beat

1043
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: in this group is not crazy good.

1044
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 4: I think Anthony's poop puod Mamalan enough on the show.

1045
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: And I think it's unfair because if you look through

1046
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 4: the Champions League last year, like they were good, like

1047
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: they didn't luck box their way into the Semis, like

1048
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 4: they had an incredibly convincing win over Napoli in that

1049
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 4: first leg, they convincingly won against Tottenham, and then they

1050
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 4: kind of saw it out obviously against against Napoli, and

1051
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: then yes they were the worst side against Inter but

1052
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: especially in this group. Okay, yes, ac Milan, they lose Tenaloe,

1053
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: they lose bre Mdaz and those were two of their

1054
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,280
Speaker 4: more important players last season. But I like the signings

1055
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 4: that they've made this summer to retool their midfield and attack,

1056
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: Like Polosi is looking great, Chiqueze coming over from Via

1057
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 4: Real is a great signing Musa and Rubin Loft's cheek

1058
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 4: gives them really good solidity in their midfield. Like, I

1059
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 4: think this team is very, very good. And if what

1060
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: we saw from Pioli last season is that he can

1061
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 4: set his team up in a good solid low block

1062
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: and play in transition, which is exactly what you need

1063
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 4: to do against teams like Dortmund and PSG. And then

1064
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 4: obviously you know it's Newcastle, it'll be whatever. But the

1065
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 4: case here, I'm kind of in the middle between you

1066
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: two on Newcastle, Like I think the greyth Michael, I

1067
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: think the price a little crazy here on Newcastle. I

1068
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 4: don't think that they should be.

1069
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: It was always going to be like That's that's my argument.

1070
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: It was like always going to be. It was like

1071
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: people couldn't wait for this and to make them the

1072
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: short pret I'm gonna raise my hand because you were

1073
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: if you were in the discord with us during the

1074
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: draw once they drew PSG and Dortman into that group,

1075
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: I was like, please put Newcastle in this troop because

1076
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: I thought they were just gonna rip them apart. But

1077
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: they threw Milan in here, which kind of throws a

1078
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: wrench into everything. I was kind of hoping they throw

1079
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: a third team nobody in there to where it's like, okay,

1080
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: they throw like a you know, a Royal Antwerp or

1081
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: a Shaktar in there, where it's like okay, you know,

1082
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: fourth place is pretty much locked up. Now it's just

1083
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: a battle to see who's in advance, and you know,

1084
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: hoping you can get new Castle out a decent.

1085
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: Number now in the group of death. I don't really

1086
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 4: know what to do with them at this price, and

1087
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: I'll probably probably what I'll end up being doing is

1088
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: just playing them an individual match basis, and I kind

1089
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 4: of want to see how they do in the Premier League.

1090
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 4: They've obviously had the toughest schedule of anybody to begin

1091
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: the season, and it's almost a benefit to them because

1092
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,959
Speaker 4: once we reach the Champions League stage of this, they're

1093
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 4: going to be playing some of the bottom half of

1094
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 4: the teams in the Premier League, so they can really

1095
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 4: really focus on the Champions League. They don't have to

1096
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: you know, play a Champions League match on Wednesday, they like,

1097
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: oh crap, we got Liverpool at home on Sunday or

1098
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 4: you know the way on Sunday. So I think it's

1099
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: a good benefit to them in this group stage. So

1100
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: that's the case you could make for Newcastle. But as

1101
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: we've seen when they're playing these better teams and you know,

1102
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: it's they should have won the match against Liverpool, like

1103
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 4: going to going to City, they really you know, that's

1104
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 4: the one team that they can't press and they can't

1105
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: you know, actually cause problems against. And then obviously going

1106
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 4: on the road to Brighton is always a very difficult

1107
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: environment and their press really wasn't that great in that

1108
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 4: match either. But it is, you know, we're four matches

1109
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: into the season, so it's little. I think it's a

1110
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 4: little bit of an overreaction for a team that's played

1111
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: the toughest schedule, But yeah, you cannot bet them at

1112
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 4: this price. So can Dortmund. I mean, Bellingham was everything

1113
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: to them last season, like absolutely everything, and losing a Guerrero,

1114
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 4: losing both of their production is just massive. Now you

1115
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: can make the case like hey, Dortmand didn't really have

1116
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 4: a true number nine last season, that's how they struggled.

1117
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 4: And then once hol Air came in, you know, if

1118
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 4: he hits this season, Like, yes, maybe Dortmann can become

1119
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 4: an offensive threat. But like they've struggled out of the

1120
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 4: gates in the Bundesliga two draws against Bokum and Heidenheim

1121
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 4: too relegation fodder teams, Like that's not great. So yeah,

1122
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 4: like Anthony said, the market has moved to the point

1123
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: where Dortmann is now the longest shot in this group,

1124
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: which is probably true. But at Milan at five to one,

1125
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 4: a team that has shown in the Champions League, who

1126
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: really kept their entire squad together outside of a couple

1127
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 4: of people, they still have Layout, who is one of

1128
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 4: the best wingers in the world. Jerude is just aging

1129
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 4: like fine wine. He's still a great striker, still looking,

1130
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: still looking incredibly handsome up there at age thirty with

1131
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 4: thirty six. Now, I like the Sacy Milan team. I

1132
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: think tactically they set up very very well. They're very

1133
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 4: very good in the middle of the pitch winning those duels,

1134
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 4: and I think there'll be a big time problem, especially

1135
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 4: against a PSG team, which I'm very interested to see

1136
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 4: PSG when they play Newcastle and Milan because what we've

1137
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 4: known from Luis Enrique for a long time with Spain

1138
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 4: is that they want to have so much possession that

1139
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 4: the out of possession stuff is really bad. And we've

1140
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 4: seen that throughout the World Cup, and you know with

1141
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 4: Spain and the Euros as well, is it going to

1142
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: be that bad at PSG as well? I think they

1143
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: have the talent and the center backs and the midfield

1144
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 4: to potentially rectify some of those transitional problems. But we'll

1145
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: see if they are just as bad as we've seen

1146
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 4: with the Lease Enrique Spain teams. It's going to make

1147
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: Milan and the Newcastle very very live underdogs when they

1148
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 4: play PSG.

1149
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: All right, Group G. I don't think we need to

1150
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: spend much time talking about We already talked Aboutleipzig Anthey

1151
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: and I.

1152
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: I like City at minus six hundred to win this

1153
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: group for twelve units.

1154
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: Mike, that's interesting because I actually at the minus one

1155
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: one bajillion to advance.

1156
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I just put it.

1157
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: I just put I just parlayed it with if you

1158
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: want the Brisbane Lion a.

1159
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: Big game on Saturday night. We're recording this on Thursday.

1160
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: Funny story Saturday morning. I guess.

1161
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: So I was at the US Open with Michael last

1162
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 3: Monday and we walked we're walking off a court to

1163
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 3: go to another court, and he we passed this older

1164
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: gentleman wearing some kind of hat Adelaide Crows, and he

1165
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 3: really goes, oh, that's an Adelaide Crow's hat and walks

1166
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 3: like twenty feet back in the opposite direction to stop

1167
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 3: the guy and then have a five minute conversation about

1168
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 3: the Adelaide Crows and how they got screwed last weekend

1169
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: in the AFL. And I'm just standing there like sweating

1170
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 3: my ass off, like what is this guy doing?

1171
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: You should look it up because it was maybe the

1172
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: craziest reffing mistake I've ever seen, and considering the stakes,

1173
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: like they would have made the playoff if essentially a

1174
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: field goal that went through the uprights was called no

1175
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: good and nobody stopped it and they have r So

1176
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what there was something going on there. Anyways,

1177
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: we'll save that for our AFL Grand Final podcast in

1178
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Group G like I said, we'll

1179
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: just breeze through the city minus one thousand to win it.

1180
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Leipzig six plus six fifty Red Star Belgrade sixty six

1181
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: to one. Young Boys also sixty six to one. Anthony

1182
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: and I talked about Leipzig. We like them, big picture stuff.

1183
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: Sixty six to one, I think is a really good

1184
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: number on this team because they should get through without

1185
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: an issue. That's how I would play it.

1186
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: Belgrade at home a couple of times, maybe.

1187
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

1188
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: I think we'll probably you know somebody who's been on

1189
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 4: the Belgrade train for the last two seasons on this podcast.

1190
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 4: In the Europa League, like I keep saying it, like

1191
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: they every single year they put up a plus one

1192
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 4: point five actually differential in the Serbian League. It just

1193
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: keeps happening year after year after year. And yeah, the

1194
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: Serbian League is like equivalent to you know, Denmark or

1195
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 4: Grease or you know that level. But the old adage

1196
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: in the Champions League, Michael is if you can't do

1197
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 4: it in your domestic league, what makes you think you're

1198
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: gonna do in the Champions League. Well, if you can

1199
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 4: do it in your domestic league, gives you a shot

1200
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 4: here in the Champions League. Are they gonna do it here?

1201
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 3: No?

1202
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 4: So maybe play them as an underdog A couple of

1203
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 4: times maybe against Sleipzig is.

1204
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: A fascinating club to just kind of read about better

1205
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: than young boys though, so I'll be very interested to

1206
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: see what the price is on that when they play.

1207
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: And finally, Group h also pretty straightforward here, great show

1208
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: off for Porto Barcelona minus two seventy five, port to

1209
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: plus two seventy five, Shaktar twenty to one, and Antwerp

1210
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: twenty two to one. Bja you you this is We

1211
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: haven't gotten to your the second leg of your Group

1212
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: Winner Part life. So I'm assuming that it's one of

1213
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: these four teams, and I'm gonna guess it's not Antwerp.

1214
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: I know everybody's been on the edge of their seats

1215
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: this entire podcast, just waiting for it.

1216
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arsenal Barten forgotten you said earlier.

1217
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: I'm sure everybody already has Barcelona hosts.

1218
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: It's all about the callbacks and Artol Johnson to the AFL.

1219
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 4: Group parlay to win the group parlay Arsenal Barcelona at

1220
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 4: plus one fifteen. I just don't see Barcelona really getting

1221
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 4: threatened in this group. You know, shock Tart and Royal

1222
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 4: Antwerp are are massive steps below even Porto in this group.

1223
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 4: In Porto. They didn't really lose much this summer, so

1224
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 4: like you could make the argument like maybe they'll be

1225
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,959
Speaker 4: pesky like they've always been here in the Champions League,

1226
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: you know, playing in that low block. But if you

1227
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: look at Porto's midfield, it's it's pretty barren and Barcelona,

1228
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 4: especially with their midfield, is going to absolutely run them over.

1229
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: They did keep Taremi despite a lot of interest from

1230
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 4: around Europe, which is a positive for Porto. You know,

1231
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 4: they'll still have the same center back pairing. Costa is

1232
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 4: still in goal, so it's still a very good team

1233
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: that's going to be very effective in their low block.

1234
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: But again, Barcelona, like I've already said, is a top

1235
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 4: four team in the world and they should really not

1236
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: be threatened in this group. And quite frankly, I think

1237
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 4: the price on them should be closer to minus three

1238
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 4: fifty minus three seventy five to win this group, as

1239
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 4: opposed to the minus two seventy range. So parlaying them

1240
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: with Arsenal, two teams that I think have the easiest

1241
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: walk through these groups that's not named Manchester City, I

1242
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 4: think is a decent price at plus one fifteen.

1243
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 3: Borto parendially undervalued as an underdog in these groups, I think,

1244
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: and I think that it's just the you know, the

1245
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: the defensive organization that they always have under Concio and

1246
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: how that plays for them, and the fact that they

1247
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: do not consistently you know, flash They're not a flashy team,

1248
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 3: so they don't get raided, you know, they don't have

1249
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: all these like dynamic attackers all the time, and then

1250
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, we lost them all, we got to

1251
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: go find new ones. They're just consistent, like the midfield's

1252
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: always good, the defense is always good. They've had their

1253
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 3: beatdown losses, but they're consistently underrated, and I think they're

1254
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: gonna give Barsa some real trouble in this group because

1255
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: I just don't like I like Barsa a lot.

1256
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: I think that.

1257
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 3: Barsa's flaws exist and they've consistently existed under Jobby, and

1258
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 3: that scares me not enough to the point where I

1259
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: trust Porto against these two bottom teams to get enough

1260
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 3: points to win this group. But I think that they're

1261
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 3: gonna give Barsa everything they want.

1262
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: So I looked I'll.

1263
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Probably just play Porto a couple of times against Barsa,

1264
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: catching big numbers and then hope that they can get

1265
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: a result or too, and Barcia still wins the group

1266
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 3: for Bja's ticket.

1267
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1268
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: That's very nice of you. What a what a good

1269
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: way to end this podcast. A little good will? All right,

1270
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: if you've been listening to us, you know we'll we'll

1271
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: win the Champions League. Fires up? Oh, actually before we

1272
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: head out of here, Europa League, real quick, BJ do

1273
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: you have anything I do?

1274
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: I have one thing and what I will tell people

1275
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 4: about betting Europa League futures to begin with is if

1276
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 4: there's a long shot that you really like, I would

1277
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 4: play out right now if like I think the age

1278
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: old question, I think anybody on this it was listening

1279
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: to this podcast is probably wondering like do I bet

1280
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 4: Brighton at fourteen to one? No is the answer to

1281
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 4: that question, because they have been put in a very

1282
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 4: difficult group and actually like the longest shot in that

1283
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: group to get out of it, which is aek Athens.

1284
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: They're in a group obviously with Brighton, Marseille and i

1285
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: AX aek Athens was a team I was just chopping

1286
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 4: at the bit to target plus one point six to

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Speaker 4: two expect a gold differential in the Greek Super League

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Speaker 4: last season, and the Greek super League is not you know,

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Speaker 4: a bottom you know twenty league in Europe like it

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Speaker 4: is actually a halfway decent league. I mean, Olympiakos is

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Speaker 4: in the Europa League group stage here, Penethonakos is also

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Speaker 4: here as well, and you know Penetanakos also knocked out

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Speaker 4: Marseille in Champions League qualification. So Marseille in this group

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Speaker 4: with their problems, and you look at Marseille as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've always you know been against them and

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Speaker 4: really have you know, hated them for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: They're going through a little bit of a transitional period now.

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Speaker 4: Like if you look at last season, like their most

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Speaker 4: productive attacker was Alexi Sanchez who had like fifteen goals

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Speaker 4: for them, nobody else really produced more than six or seven,

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Speaker 4: you know, check he under he was their next best

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Speaker 4: productive attacker and he's now off defender bot Chase. So

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Speaker 4: you know, they obviously bring in Ishmael Assar and h

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Speaker 4: and Die from Sheffield United and Obama eyeing to release

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Speaker 4: all of that. But they're going through a new manager

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Speaker 4: in a transitional period, so I think it's going to

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Speaker 4: be very difficult for them. And then I acts they

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Speaker 4: got raided again. You know, Kudu's gone, Alvarez gone timbergone.

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Speaker 4: And if you look at i AX last season, yes,

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Speaker 4: they put up great numbers in the area to V say,

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Speaker 4: but if you only target their matches against PSV, against

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Speaker 4: fayan Oid and against Al Kamar, they didn't win a

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Speaker 4: single match against those teams last year. So i AX

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Speaker 4: as a team, I'm going to be looking to fade

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Speaker 4: a lot in this group. I believe they open with

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Speaker 4: AEK Athens, which I will be on the Greek team

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Speaker 4: in that they are Athens. Is seven to one to

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Speaker 4: advance out of this group. I think Brighton wins it

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Speaker 4: pretty comfortably, but probably is seven to one for a

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Speaker 4: team that I don't think is that significant of a

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Speaker 4: gap between Marseille and i X and the assist Master

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Speaker 4: Steven Zuber plays for AK Athens by the way as well.

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Speaker 4: So that's my one Europa League future for everybody out there.

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Speaker 3: How did Brighton get a worse tougher group than ours

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Speaker 3: in the Europa League than Arsenal got in the Champions League.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, pretty wild? Oh, very a little underlying thing

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Speaker 4: you think going on here?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean Arsenal have been rigging the Cup draws

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Speaker 3: for years and domestically, but now they've done it abroad

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Speaker 3: as well, so very impressive. But yeah, I know Liverpool.

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Speaker 3: Liverpool got the biggest joke group ever.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 3: I mean about things to lose lask and Junos Saint

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Speaker 3: Joe Walls who just lost their best player. So I

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Speaker 3: haven't fully dug into Europa League. But I'll bet it

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Speaker 3: here and there in the group stage, maybe like one

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Speaker 3: once or twice a week. But it can get wonky

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Speaker 3: in Europa League group stage for sure.

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Speaker 4: I'll have an entire Europa League big preview. I'll probably

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Speaker 4: wait five thousand words on it, just for everybody out there.

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Speaker 3: Four nine ninety nine too many, Yeah, we need one.

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Speaker 3: It's Brighton fourteen.

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Speaker 1: To one, all right.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't think they're a good tournament team. I think,

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Speaker 3: in fact, i'm out well.

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Speaker 4: Also, just because the team's coming down from the Champions

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Speaker 4: League like it, it makes it very hard to bet

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Speaker 4: that at fourteen to one, Whereas like, okay, if they

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Speaker 4: accidentally finished second in that group, then it's like here

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Speaker 4: comes Manchester United to play Brighton in the knockout round

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Speaker 4: of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: You know, and that's when we and that's when we

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Speaker 1: bet Brighton.

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Speaker 4: That's when we bet Brighton exactly, although they're probably like

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Speaker 4: a road favorite at that point. It's United.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's wrap it up here. If you've been listening,

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Speaker 1: you know, but the canaan's for the show. When when

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Speaker 1: Champions He comes, we record on Sunday night and they'll

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Speaker 1: be out for you on Monday mornings, so look out

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Speaker 1: for those as we get going with the Champions League,

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Speaker 1: and of course we'll be back on Thursday mornings to

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