1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sportsradio dot com, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: And with that we go to Albert Breer. Tomorrow is 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: the NFL trade deadline. Monday morning, quarterback Okay I said 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: with Buffalo, I really do feel like you dominate in 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: the red zone the time of possession. You're at home 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: and Kansas City's got the ball trailing twenty eight twenty one. 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: I do feel like they need something on the perimeter. 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: What are you hearing on the Bills, Well. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: They're looking for two things now. 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: The first thing actually is a defensive tackle because that 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: Oliver was injured last week and they don't know whether 18 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: or not they're going to get him back at all. 19 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 3: If they do, it'll be during the playoffs, and so 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: they have a little bit of a depth issue there. 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: You saw what happened with the commanders last night. Could 22 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: maybe they make a call on somebody like Javon Kinlaw. 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: I can see that happening. 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 4: So I think defensive tackle is their top priority right now, 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: but receivers right behind it. They've made calls on receivers. 26 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: I think the New Orleans receivers are interesting. So you 27 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: have Chris o'lave and Rashid Shahed there. My senses, they're 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: trying to get a lat of extended. They liked for 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: him to be their long term and the asking price 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: for Shaheed is high. But Shahed does bring something to 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: the table calling that the Bills are lacking, which is 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 4: an over the top type of weapon that can stretch 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: the defense. 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: You could really weaponize josh Allen's arm strength. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: So would you flip New Orleans a third round pick 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: for Shahed whose contract is up after the year. I 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: think that'd be the question the Bills are asking right now, 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 4: But they have asked on receivers, and again I think 39 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 4: the top priority would be defensive tackle. 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: So the obvious sellers would be the Dolphins already have 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: maybe the Jet Saints. It does feel like over the 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: last couple of years, Jets, it does feel like over 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years there's more aggressive young gms 44 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: or is this just like it always is. 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 4: I mean, it's like it always isn't that We're like 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: people like me are throwing around one hundred names for 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 4: like five or six to get traded. So like that's 48 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: not different than it's ever been. I do think there's 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: more discussion and more concepts are thrown around, you know, 50 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 4: And I do think like that. You know, teams have 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: gotten ahead of this a little bit. You saw Jie 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 4: Alexander Trader over the weekend. Ye you know, obviously Jalen 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: Phillips happens today, So like there is a little bit 54 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: more aggression earlier in the game too. I think we'll 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: see some action tomorrow. Again, like most of it's going 56 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: to come down to how far teams are willing to 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: go to get players who may be on expiring contracts 58 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: or may only have a year and a half left 59 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: on their deals. So, if you want to go down 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: the list, some of the teams I mentioned, the Saints, 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: the receivers are certainly in play. Would they move one 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: of their older defensive players? Look at the Mario Davis 63 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: the Dolphins. You know they trade Jalen Phillips. Could they 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: trade and make a Fitzpatrick. I don't think they'll trade 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 4: Jalen Waddle. They've basically given teams that have called and 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 4: know on that one. But if Fitzpatrick could be valuable 67 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: as a movable piece in your secondary and then I 68 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: think they still could trade another edge, like whether that's 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: Matthew Judah or Bradley Chubb. And the Jets are really 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: interesting here because the Jets can offer up Briest Hall, 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 4: who's in a contract year. I think it took a 72 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: Day two pick to get him. Jermaine Johnson actually has 73 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: a year and a half left on his deal. I 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 4: think they'd be much more willing to trade Jermaine Johnson 75 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: than they would will McDonald. Are you willing to give 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: up a third round pick for Jermaine Johnson? And then 77 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: Quincy Williams, who's a pretty accomplished linebacker, he'd be available 78 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 4: as well. So there are a lot of names floating 79 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: around the Titans. They've gotten some calls on their edge 80 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: rushers Arden Key and Draymond Jones. 81 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: They're open for business. Calvin Ridley could be available. 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: They're open for business on anybody except probably Jeffrey Simmons. 83 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: Or cam Ward. 84 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of that type of discussion right now, 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: and there's aggression in having those discussions, but how many 86 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: deals that actually results? And that's you know, always been 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: the trouble this time of year, is that you see 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: a lot more discussion than you do action. 89 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 5: You know, it's the NFL. 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer has overachieved in my opinion. I mean, Cincinnati 91 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: without Burrow, I don't think there's a ton of pressure 92 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: on Zach Taylor and the Brown family doesn't buy out. 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 5: You know. Coaches? Is there? 94 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: I mean Miami, Mike McDaniel, I do it out last week. 95 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: I would consider Lane Kiffin. He's seen half these college quarterbacks, 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: he's recruited him, he's played them. 97 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: Is there? 98 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, do you see a firing coming as there? 99 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: We're talking trade deadline? What what is the It feels 100 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: like this year it's not as hot like four teams. 101 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: Just I don't feel like there's a coach in big 102 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: trouble right now. 103 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I have a hard time seeing the 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 4: Giants do that in mid season, you know, obviously, I 105 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: think I just don't see it happening in season. After 106 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: the season, Yeah, that could happen, I don't think it'll happen. 107 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 4: And during the season, you know, the Dolphins are interesting, 108 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: and I think the idea here for the Dolphins, and 109 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 4: Steven Ross said this in his statement, was is to 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: take a global look at their at their football operation 111 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 4: and not have to do it in the shadows, right. 112 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 4: That's why they walk away from Chris Career, who'd been 113 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: with them for a quarter century on Friday. So, like, 114 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 4: they want to look at the idea of bringing in 115 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: a head of football operations. Do they want a model 116 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: where that guy's the boss. Do they want to model 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: where the coach is the boss. They'll be able to 118 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 4: look at all of this now and talk to a 119 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: lot of people, consult with a lot of different people, 120 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 4: you know. Ultimately, I think the reason they pulled the 121 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: trigger on Chris and not Mike. Here, Steve Ross had 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 4: heard from a lot of people like Mike McDaniel could 123 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: wind up being dynamite, you know, if he gets a 124 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 4: second shot as a head coach, even if he's done 125 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: in Miami. And so I think he wanted to be 126 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: a little bit careful about pulling the trigger on McDaniel 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: just you know, the off chance that maybe they decide 128 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: to bring in a head of football operations and that 129 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: guy comes in and decides they want to keep McDaniel 130 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 4: because I do think that there are a lot of 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 4: positives to what McDaniel's accomplished over is three plus years 132 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 4: in Miami. Still a lot of moving parts there, and 133 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: I'm not staying in season. 134 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: Firing can't happen there either. 135 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: I think the brometer it would be whether or not 136 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: he loses the locker room. You know, they do have 137 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: that trip to Madrid in a couple of weeks with 138 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: a buy on the other end of it, so you 139 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 4: never say never. But I don't think the idea would 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: be to pull the trigger on McDaniel until after the season, 141 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: when they get that full look at football. 142 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Ops, who is your best team in the league? Now, 143 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: when you make all these calls and you talk to 144 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: people around the league, who are people impressed with? 145 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: You know, I think people feel like Kansas City is 146 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: going to come around. Josh Simmons is back in the building. 147 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: That was a problem for them yesterday for the first time. 148 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: I think like not having Josh Simmons out there. 149 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: So I think there's a. 150 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 4: Feeling that Kansas City once they really get, you know, 151 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: rolling the offensive lines together. 152 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 3: Obviously they got Roshie Rice back. 153 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: Now we know what Bags can do on the defensive 154 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: side of the ball, that they'll be there. 155 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 6: You know. 156 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: Buffalo is another one where like they've really got their 157 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: house in order to earn their by and if you see, 158 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: like look over the last two weeks, right, they really 159 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: haven't had to to take the ferrari out of the garage, 160 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: so to speak with Josh Allen, you know, they've run 161 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 4: the ball really well. Josh Allen only threw the ball 162 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: twenty six times yesterday, which is a pretty low number. 163 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: So there's that feeling that Buffalo can win games in 164 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 4: different ways. 165 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 6: You know. 166 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: Then you've got that sort of waiting room in the 167 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: in the in the AFC, right like you've got the 168 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: Colts and the Broncos and the Patriots that are right 169 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 4: there from a standings perspective, can they sustain it? But 170 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: the team to me, and I think j Mack mentioned 171 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: this that really looks like they're starting to pick up 172 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: up ahead of steam is the La Rams, a pretty 173 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: complete team, a team with. 174 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 3: A very good quarterback. 175 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: And it's a different looking team to Colin Like I 176 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: this is this is very much like Sean McVay looking 177 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: in the mirror over the last couple of years after 178 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: he had the trouble with the Niners and having more 179 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 4: physical training camps and building a more physical team. And 180 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 4: you look at how rugged they are up front on 181 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. That offense is really centered 182 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: more about around Kyra and Williams than it is Matthew 183 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: Stafford at this point. And Stafford doesn't need to be 184 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: superman for them to win games yet he still has 185 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: DeVante Adams and Puka Nakua to throw to. So this 186 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: looks like a team that can win a lot of 187 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: different types of fights, which is generally what wins in 188 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 4: the playoffs. 189 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: And they're going to be battle. 190 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 4: Tested too the NFC West, and you look like Arizona 191 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: is not an easy out. They'll play tonight, right, And 192 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: then you have a Seattle team that looks like it 193 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 4: might be one of the five or six best teams 194 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: in the league. And San Francisco is really hanging in 195 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 4: there with all the injuries they've had. 196 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: The Rams to me look a good team. 197 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: It's very complete, and it is going to come out 198 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: of that division battle test. 199 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: I want to close with this Cowboys host Arizona, Kyler 200 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Murray could play. 201 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 5: It's now Brissette's job. 202 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: It feels like it's come to a inclusion and it 203 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: was a bad year for smaller quarterbacks. It was Russell 204 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Wilson to Kyler Murray. You know it's this is such 205 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: a cyclical league. There was this whole thing. Get a 206 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: guy that can run. Size doesn't matter. Now you look 207 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: up and it's like, you know, it's Josh Allen, then 208 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: it's Herbert and it's the. 209 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 5: Big the big guys. 210 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: What's the conclusion of Kyler Murray? Do they move off him? 211 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: It feels like Gannon's really not interested long term. 212 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: I mean, Brissette is more of. 213 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: The class most defensive coaches, like a Brissette pocket. Everything's 214 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: on script. I can control it. Kyler, Kyler's more elusive 215 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: and doing his own thing. What do you make of 216 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Kyler Marie in areas? 217 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: Do you remember all the criticism we all had to 218 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 4: door Sanders right like coming out like where when he 219 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: bails out of the pocket, he bails out the back 220 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 4: of the pocket instead of climbing up in the pocket 221 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: and where he could create like you would see that 222 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: it would get the offense kind of discombobulated at times. 223 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: I think that's sort of what you're looking at, like 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: on the pro level now with Kyler Murray, where they're 225 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: getting a look at what this looks. 226 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: Like now because of the injury. 227 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,479 Speaker 4: What Jakobe burs said it was a very average quarterback, 228 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: a great guy, good guy out in your locker room, 229 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: all that, but a very average quarterback. 230 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: And what are you seeing now? 231 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is starting to come alive a little bit, 232 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: Trey McBride starting to come alive a little bit. You're 233 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: seeing them get more out of the talent they've put 234 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: it into place around the quarterback. 235 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: Does it mean you're getting a spectacular play from the quarterback. No, 236 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: but it does kind of bring to life a little. 237 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 4: Bit of what they've built there over the course of 238 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 4: the last two and a half years. And so I 239 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 4: certainly think getting a look at what this looks like 240 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: with just an average quarterback in there does become part 241 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,239 Speaker 4: of the evaluation. Out to the trouble is the contract 242 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: right like, they are locked in with guaranteed money for 243 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. 244 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 3: They can't get out of that. 245 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: So is there a way that you can trade you 246 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 4: Kyler Murray if you make the decision you want to 247 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: move off of them after the year. 248 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: I think that would be the big picture question. 249 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: But I certainly think that that discussion is one that'll 250 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 4: be had when the season ends in Arizona, presuming that 251 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: they don't catch fire down the streschol Kyler Murray in. 252 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: There, Albert Breer Monday Morning Quarterback, appreciate you stopping buy 253 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: on late notice my man. 254 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: All right, thanks Colin. 255 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, keep your eye on the New Orleans Saints receivers 256 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills, among other moves. Breece Hall, maybe 257 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: New York Jets. Jets need to flush out a lot 258 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: beyond Breecee Hall. 259 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 5: This is my opinion. I mean, Darnold and Aaron Rodgers Reborn. 260 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 7: You see what this guy's doing. People, You see what 261 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 7: he's doing. He's needling me with the Jets. Tray Breese Hall, Listen, 262 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 7: would they draft their franchise quarterback Colling, whether it's Mendoza, Tyson, whoever, 263 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 7: They're gonna need some pieces around him. 264 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 8: We're gonna look like cam Ward with the Titans. 265 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 7: Cam Ward's sitting there with nobody to throw to, nobody 266 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 7: hand off to disaster. Jets are gonna be drafted top five, right, 267 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 7: top three, maybe top two. You need bres Hall to 268 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: hand off to in Garrett Wilson. Anybody on defense I 269 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 7: think is fair game. 270 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 5: Breece Hall and Allen. 271 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 8: You know you have Braylon Allen yell A one two punched, 272 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 8: Thunder and Lightning. 273 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 5: Live in La. 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Check us out 287 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 10: on YouTube and subscribe. 288 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys host Arizona tonight, I like Dallas. Dak is a 289 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: great quarterback at home, Jmax is win saying I don't 290 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: trust anything with Arizona. 291 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 8: How can you trust the Dallas defense? I mean, this 292 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 8: feels like a three point game. 293 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 7: Brandon already hits from fifty four to win it or 294 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 7: some nonsense, right, I mean Jacoby Brisett remember what he 295 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 7: did with the against the Colts a couple weeks ago. 296 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 8: Steck can sling it. 297 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: He's a veteran J Mack with the news. 298 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 6: No, no turn on the news. 299 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line news. 300 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 7: All right, let's start with major League baseball in the 301 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 7: Dodgers unbelievable Game seven triumph, one of the craziest and 302 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 7: best World Series games that I've ever seen. According to 303 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 7: Fox Sports PR, Game seven was the highest rated World 304 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 7: Series game since Game seven in twenty seventeen, with twenty 305 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 7: five point nine million viewers across all platforms, peaking at 306 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 7: thirty one and a half million people colin to watch 307 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 7: Yamamoto close the door on the. 308 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: Of The Dodgers are apparently bad for baseball. 309 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 7: Can we call this a choke by the Blue Jays 310 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 7: they led the entire game? Or is that just two 311 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 7: hards for a Game seven? 312 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: And no, I don't think it, But I mean they 313 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: had in Game six it was a base running air. 314 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's why the Dodgers. 315 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 8: You went home up three to two, and all of 316 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 8: them they. 317 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Had a major snaff who on the bases in Game six. 318 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: None of the none of the Jays fans want to 319 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: talk about that. You open the door. You should have 320 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: won Game six. 321 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 7: There are some people complaining that the guy on third 322 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 7: base when the bases were loaded didn't have a big 323 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 7: enough lead where he missed it by like a quarter 324 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 7: of a step to play at home played by Rojasri. 325 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 7: It's like, why wasn't he leading off more? But you know, 326 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 7: poor Blue Jays. That's a tough one. As for bad 327 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 7: for baseball, Colin, I don't totally understand that logic. 328 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: That's just envy. 329 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: It's not bad for baseball. 330 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 8: I mean, dynasties are great. 331 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 7: The Chiefs were great, dynasty, the Yankees were great, the Warriors. 332 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 7: Everybody loves or hates dynasties. They're polarizing right right now. 333 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: The NBA is very international and nobody wins a second title. 334 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 5: Yeah is that? 335 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this number is over double what the NBA 336 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Finals will get. This this this is probably gonna get 337 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: twenty eight million, and the NBA's not going to get 338 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: I doubt fifteen million in their Game six. 339 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 7: If it's Nicks Lakers, we'll see it probably won't be 340 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 7: but and also this was a Saturday night, which is 341 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 7: usually a wasteland for TV. 342 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 8: People are out partying there. You know, it was Halloween nights. 343 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Well, you're competing against college football. 344 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 8: Or the night after Halloweens, are you? 345 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 7: I mean, I went to a Halloween party Saturday and 346 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 7: people were going crazy out here in LA. 347 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 8: Now you come out, you go to the parade after. 348 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 7: This, I'm not sure. 349 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: I don't do parades under any circumstances. 350 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 7: All right, Sorry, we got to pivot to a negative story, 351 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 7: and that is the Jaden Daniels injury. I don't know 352 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 7: if we're going to show it here on Street now. 353 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 7: We're not the aftermath. It's just painful. According to reporters, 354 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 7: it's a dislocated, non throwing elbow. It sounds like his 355 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 7: season's probably over, But the Washington commanders haven't announced that 356 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 7: Marcus Mariota gets the start. You know, unless it's small 357 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 7: doses of him is okay, But he's got to start 358 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 7: against the Detroit Lions. This is a loss Lions off 359 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 7: a loss deflated Washington. I saw a Lottimore also injured. 360 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 7: Sounds like his season's over. Washington shopping their tackles. I 361 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 7: saw that from a reporter. I don't know, man, they're cooked. 362 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 8: It's over. 363 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 7: That's four straight losses, and I think you just got 364 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 7: to start playing for next season, right, Yeah? 365 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: I think they went into this season. They were so 366 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: shockingly good last year. You forget they were in the 367 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: middle of a rebuild and they're very, very old roster. 368 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: They loaded up on some contracts right without paying Jayden, 369 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: and old rosters get hurt and it takes longer recover. 370 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: So I think you know you got your quarterback, get 371 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: him healthy, done for the season, and go ahead on 372 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: some draft picks. 373 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 7: Easier said than done. But they may finish last in 374 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 7: the division. 375 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 8: I don't know where you are. Jackson Dart is looking plucky. 376 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 8: I don't know. 377 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 7: Washington could end up with like a top seven pick. 378 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 7: I don't know if they're gonna win another game. Coll Seriously, 379 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 7: is that bad for Washington? Final story is, let's go 380 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 7: back to your Bears Bengals game of the day. 381 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 5: What a wild, wild game. 382 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 7: Two kind of bad teams playing fun football. 383 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: Bears aren't bad. 384 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 6: They keep winning game and what's over under. 385 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 7: On trick plays this weekend against the Giants, Kalla Williams 386 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 7: catching two passes, like he was all over the place. 387 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 7: Nicole should love them play unbelievable. After the game, though, 388 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 7: this is what I love. Chase Brown and Jamar Chase 389 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 7: were ticked off about the Bengals defense. 390 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 8: I think we're gonna bleep out. 391 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: Some of the stuff, Chase Brown said, but uh. 392 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: He was mad. 393 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 8: Yeah, here we go. 394 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 9: We just got to play complimentary football, like we put 395 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 9: the ball in the end zone and go up a 396 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 9: point at the end, finish game, like just end it 397 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 9: like that's it, Like that's that's like, that's. 398 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: What we need to do. 399 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 9: Just end the game, like make them, make them get 400 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 9: us the ball back, let us go to twenty two victory, 401 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 9: and let's end the game. 402 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 6: In the fourth party, you score two touchdowns for like 403 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 6: a minute of game time. What goes through your mind 404 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 6: when you score that second touchdown and you take the. 405 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 5: Lead, defend to get a stop. I'm a stay in 406 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 5: my lane. 407 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to defensive players coming to me out 408 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 3: about what he's been doing. 409 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 8: Hm. 410 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 7: Wow, locker room sounds fractured now. Number Friday during headlines, 411 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 7: I said, keep an eye on teams that are going 412 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 7: into the by That Cincinnati defense look like they're headed to. 413 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 8: The buy they're celebrating in Cancun. 414 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 6: Right now. 415 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 7: We got the bye week. Titans didn't do anything at all. 416 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 7: I'm just telling you these teams they're bad going into 417 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 7: the by now we're getting into the November, people are 418 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 7: starting to plan for the offseason. This Cincinnati team just 419 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 7: screaming like they quit. Well, I know you've been a 420 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 7: defender of Zach Taylor. 421 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Collins, Well, it's I defend him because I think it's 422 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: a frugal, of cheap ownership group. Joe Burrow is I 423 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: just I think there's such a difference in ownership and 424 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: front offices in the NFL, and I think Zach Taylor 425 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: is doing the best he can with limitation. It's like, 426 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: you're like, he's a sales guy and the product's not 427 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: very good, and you have there's a million salespeople in 428 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: America right now that are trying to sell something and 429 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: the quality of the product is crap. And they're good salespeople, 430 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: but you're limited. And I so I'm not going to 431 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: beat up on Zach Taylor because I think it's hard 432 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: to win here. 433 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 8: So are you bringing him back next year? 434 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 11: Yeah? 435 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: Why not? 436 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Offensive guy Burrow likes him. 437 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 5: Somebody on this show has to have patience. 438 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 7: Wow, I can't believe endorsing Zach Taylor. Bengals fans are 439 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 7: ready to run him out of town round now, I 440 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 7: was trying to do that too. 441 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Mores between Mondamie and Zach Taylor, I'm the shoes. 442 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 8: Oh we got politics in final hour, let's go. 443 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: J Mack with the news. 444 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 2: Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd. 445 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: Lie, he's the biggest Bears fan and believer in the 446 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: building and he joins us. 447 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 5: Next it's the Herd. 448 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd dayson 449 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: noon Easter not a im Pacific. 450 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: Well, they are throwing a World Series Dynasty parade in 451 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. In fact, not only are they throwing the 452 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: parade today in Los Angeles, but they're already scheduling next years. 453 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: They want to be ahead of the curve. 454 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: So Dave Roberts on top of the bus, we have 455 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: some video for the less fortunate baseball fans to growl 456 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: over the Los Angeles Dodgers back to back World Series champs, 457 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: got Rams championships, Lakers championships, back to back Dodgers championships, 458 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: and now somebody who's been a tad less fortunate with 459 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: his teams. Danny Parkins, joining us from New York co 460 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: host First Things First, but here's the good news. You 461 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: can count on one hand in the last decade the 462 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: times a Bears fan could say, I love our offense 463 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: and what a mess in Green Bay. 464 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 5: Love that Cincinnati game. I'll be honest. 465 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Now I get Ben Johnson's tricks, Caleb's not being sacked it. 466 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 8: They're starting to look like a functional operation, are they not? 467 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 6: They definitely are. Thank you for that intro. 468 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 11: I think I think there was a compliment wrapped up 469 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 11: in there somewhere, you know, literally, Colin, in my life, 470 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 11: the Bears when they have allowed thirty five or more, 471 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 11: they have not won a football game since I turned 472 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 11: twenty two. October of two thousand and eight was the 473 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 11: last time the Bears won a game where they allowed 474 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 11: thirty five or more. 475 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 2: And that was the. 476 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 11: First time in the history of their franchise they won 477 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 11: a game allowing forty two or more. So, quite literally, 478 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 11: I've never seen a game like Sunday. And yes, a 479 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 11: huge piece of that is the Bengals defense, and the 480 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 11: Bengals defense without Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals defense looking 481 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 11: like they've quit on the season, but I don't care. 482 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 11: Caleb Williams was clutch, Ben Johnson was in his back. 483 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 11: They were electric, they were exciting, and we can zoom 484 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 11: out if you want. Beyond that game, Caleb Williams is 485 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 11: good and he is improving, and at this point, I 486 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 11: think that's undeniable. 487 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 488 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean I talked to some NFL people yesterday and 489 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: they're like, listen, we still like Ben more than Caleb. 490 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: But I the one thing I've always defended Caleb on 491 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: high school, college and pros. 492 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 5: He doesn't throw interceptions. 493 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: He just doesn't, and a lot of great quarterbacks like 494 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning Andrew Luck do so now he'll hold the 495 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: ball some of that. Maybe he's so gifted he's like, 496 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw it. 497 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: I'm gonna run it. 498 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Are you satisfied with playing within structure? We both know 499 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: he's got a ton of horsepower, but do you see growth? 500 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: Undeniably? 501 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 11: I think that it would have been nice if Ben 502 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 11: Johnson was there for him as a rookie, but he 503 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 11: wasn't you know that he had to go through firing 504 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 11: Matt Eberflus and firing Shane Waldron and the whole fiasco 505 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 11: of last year. But they upgraded the offensive line, they 506 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 11: upgraded his weapons, they upgraded his coach, who happened to 507 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 11: also he is play caller, and he's seeing growth. You 508 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 11: mentioned the sacks. He has, what fourteen sacks taken in 509 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 11: eight weeks. He took sixty eight sacks last year. I 510 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 11: don't need to give you anything else beyond that and 511 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 11: its improvement. And all of the plays that he made 512 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 11: are not the crazy spin around backwards laser arm type 513 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 11: of things like some of them are. He still has that, 514 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 11: but it's like a baseball pitcher, you want to work 515 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 11: off of your fastball. For a quarterback, the fastball is 516 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 11: playing in structure, playing in an offense, playing on time. 517 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 11: Caleb's getting better at that, and then he has the 518 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 11: ability to do those other things. 519 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 6: It's going around social media. 520 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 10: Now. 521 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 11: You go watch the All twenty two version of that 522 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 11: throw to Loveland that ended up being the game winning touchdown. 523 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 11: It looked open on the TV broadcast, it wasn't. That 524 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 11: is a needle throw with three defenders around Colston Loveland 525 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 11: that he throws on the back shoulder intentionally because if 526 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 11: he leads him he's leading it into a safety like 527 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 11: Caleb's a gamer. That's his third come from behind drive 528 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 11: in the fourth quarter in his last last five games. 529 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 11: So is he perfect or a finished product? Far from it. 530 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 11: But he's really talented and he's getting better week by week. 531 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: So I was saying this watching the Chiefs last night. 532 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: There is a way to beat Mahomes when he's uncomfortable. 533 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: A couple Super Bowl blowout losses. Last night he gets 534 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: hit fifteen times. Now Josh Simmons is back in the 535 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: facility left tackle. 536 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: He'd been out for personal reasons. That's a big deal. 537 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: But my take was strangely maybe I said, you know, 538 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Buffalo dominates time of possession, perfect in the red zone. 539 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: Hit Mahomes fifteen times. 540 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: From beginning to end the better team, and Mahomes had 541 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: the ball going for the tying touchdown. Like I'm like, 542 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: I know, Kansas City's five and four, that's not what 543 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: the score should have been. Am I being too Am 544 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: I being too anti Buffalo? I think they need another receiver, 545 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman. Like, I'm like, guys, it can't be 546 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty one. When I look at the box score, 547 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: it looks like thirty five thirteen. 548 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 11: Listen McDermott choosing to kick that field goal at the 549 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 11: end of the game is so insane and indefensible, like 550 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 11: Pooch punted down. 551 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 6: What are you doing? 552 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 11: I have no like that is an inexplicable decision that 553 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 11: made that game feel even more Parently, Mahomes getting two 554 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 11: chances at the end zone at the end is crazy 555 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 11: embarrassing from McDermott and game management. But I don't love 556 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 11: the analysis that people seem to have boxed us into 557 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 11: where it's like, well, the Bills need to prove they 558 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 11: can beat the Chiefs in January, so the Bills beating 559 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 11: the Chiefs in November means nothing. Then why did I watch? 560 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 11: Why do I spend three and a half hours watching? 561 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 11: Because like right now, if the season ended, the Chiefs 562 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 11: would not be in the playoffs. Denver won again, the 563 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 11: Chargers won again, The Chiefs are in third place. Do 564 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 11: I think they're better than those teams? Of course I do. 565 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 11: Do I understand why they get the benefit of the doubt? 566 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 11: Of course I give it to them all the time. 567 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 11: They were number one on my top ten teams let's 568 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 11: heading into this game. But Buffalo was number three like 569 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 11: Buffalo also to me deserved befit of a doubt from 570 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 11: that two game blip. And if you're struggling to give 571 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 11: credit to Buffalo, give it to their defense because coming 572 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 11: into that game, it was the worst rush defense that 573 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 11: McDermott had ever had. And even though their pass numbers 574 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 11: were pretty good, Drake May carved them up and Lamar 575 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 11: Jackson carved them up. There was an expectation that the 576 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 11: Chiefs are going to be able to get whatever they 577 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 11: wanted whenever they wanted. They had scored twenty eight or 578 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 11: more in five straight games, and the Bills held Patrick 579 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 11: Mahomes to the worst completion percentage game of his career, 580 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 11: the third worst passer rating game of his career, and 581 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 11: held the Chiefs to twenty one points. Like that, Bill's defense, 582 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 11: I thought made the statement of the weekend. 583 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: So you're a baseball fan and a Cubs fan, and 584 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: you know the sport very well, and I've said is 585 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: that it's not just about money, because Steve Cohen has 586 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: more money than anybody. If you look at the NFL, 587 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the New York teams are terrible. Green Bezo was viable, 588 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: so and those New York teams have massive game day revenue. 589 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: It's always been about how do you spend the money? 590 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: Plenty of rich people are you know, are broke ten 591 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: years later. So I looked at the Dodgers, but I'm 592 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: and I look at it and I think Meggi, Rojas, 593 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: the outfielder. I mean, yes, they went and spent on Yoshi, 594 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: there's no denying that. But there is a quality to 595 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: this team that they have. You know, you're Will Smith 596 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: an old you know, Rojas and the center fielder making 597 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 1: a catch and left as a late replacement. 598 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 5: They do a lot of that stuff. 599 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: It's a I've said before, it's the best run organization 600 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: in any city I've ever lived in. They let go 601 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: of Corey Seeger, they let go of Trade Turner. I 602 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: mean Corey Seeger is the best. I think he's the 603 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: best Rangers player. Tredye Turner won the National League Credit. 604 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: They let Manny Machado walk, They let Zach Grinke go. 605 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: Like they don't sign everybody. They sign the right guys. 606 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: How do you view I mean, Milwaukee's a great example. 607 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: Lost their manager and GM they got better, Like there 608 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: is something about culture. How do you Because Ricketts has 609 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: money in Chicago, but a smaller game day revenue with 610 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: the stadium. How do you view the Dodgers and their 611 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: money and wealth. 612 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 11: Well, it's a combination of right, Like two things can 613 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 11: be true. They have the best local TV deal in sports, 614 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 11: so they have the most revenue in the sport, which 615 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 11: is a competitive advantage that they also take advantage of 616 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 11: really well, like Andrew Friedman is arguably and maybe in 617 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 11: arguably now the best executive in the game, Like he 618 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 11: could do it with no budget, and then he has 619 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 11: the best budget. The Dodgers are the best of both worlds. 620 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 6: To your point. 621 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 11: They develop a great farm system and they signed the 622 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 11: top end the top end talent, so they're the best 623 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 11: organization that happens to have the most resources in all 624 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 11: of baseball. I just thought, you know, baseball is so 625 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 11: great at moments. It's so great at drama. The one 626 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 11: sixty two can be mundane at times because we struggle 627 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 11: to attach any sort of significance to one game. 628 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 6: But these playoffs were great. 629 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 11: And the fact that Yamamoto can have the complete game 630 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 11: in game two, have a good game in game six, 631 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 11: and then come back in game seven. 632 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 6: And do what he did. It's on the short list. 633 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 11: I'd put it right there with Madison Bumgardner in twenty four. 634 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 11: Team Bumgardner through a twenty four innings one Game one, 635 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 11: one Game five, and then had a five inning save in. 636 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 6: Game seven with a point four e er. 637 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 11: It's one of the great World Series pitching performances in 638 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 11: the history of the sport. And I don't know how 639 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 11: you ever recover from it. If you're a Blue Jays fan, 640 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 11: like you have the eighteen inning game, you got outfielders 641 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 11: colliding with each other. You got to play at a 642 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 11: play at the plate that you need the Zupruder film 643 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 11: to analyze, you know, Vlado, you know you could have 644 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 11: thought the ball was gone off the bat. 645 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 6: The double play to ended with Game six. 646 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 11: It was just losing Game six and Game seven at home. 647 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 11: Just absolutely sick for Blue Jays fans. And then the Dodgers, 648 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 11: as the best running organization in. 649 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 6: The sport, gets to keep the trophy. 650 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, circling back, I'm not saying you're tickled by it, 651 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: but it is rare when the Bears offense is fourth 652 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: in the league and the Packers are completely letical by it. 653 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: I could say I said it earlier. They have no identity, 654 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: I have no idea. What the offense says you watched. 655 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: If you watch the Bears most, you watch the Packer second. 656 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: I can't figure out what they are offensively. It's hard 657 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: to create an identity. They have lost theirs. What are they? 658 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 6: Yeah? 659 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 11: The running game is not what it was last year, 660 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 11: which is a weird thing given Matt Lafleur and how 661 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 11: much he wants to run the ball. Like Jacobs, has 662 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 11: just not been as effective this year. Like Jordan Love 663 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 11: is very very good, clearly, and I do find that 664 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 11: very annoying that Packers fans get to go from Farv 665 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 11: to Rogers to Love. I feel like they deserve twenty 666 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 11: years of Mitch Trubisky. But I'll remove my biases from it. 667 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 11: But Jordan Love still makes inexplicable throws, like the interception 668 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 11: against Cleveland lost him a game. 669 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 6: It was terrible. 670 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 11: His interception against Cincinnati in the red zone took points 671 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 11: off the board. 672 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 6: Interception in this spot was bad. 673 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 11: Should have thrown a pick six where he rolled left, 674 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 11: brought the whole defense left, thrown it through it right. 675 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 6: I knew Dobb's is out the back of the end zone. McManus. 676 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 11: Their kicker is getting booed at home like they can't 677 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 11: can't stop the run. They were the one seed heading 678 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 11: into the week, and I still don't really think they're 679 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 11: all that good. They're good, they're talented, they'll probably make 680 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 11: the playoffs, but I think they're just good enough to 681 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 11: make a crucial mistake the divisional round of the playoffs, 682 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 11: and I just can't get all the way there yet. 683 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 5: On Jordan Love, how'd your picks do this weekend? 684 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 11: Colin, aren't we out of time yet? I went one 685 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 11: and two. It's very frustrating. I go three and oh, 686 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 11: then I go one and two, and then I go 687 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 11: two and one, and then I go oh and three. 688 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 11: I just can't seem to get any margin freerr between 689 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 11: me and five hundred this year. It's very frustrating. But 690 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 11: I'm still beating Nick Wright, which is really what mappens. 691 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: Frankly, we're all happy about that. That's a company too, 692 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: a referendum beat Nick right. 693 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely. Daddy Park has great seeing you buy. 694 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 11: Congrats on the Hall of Fame, Colin, no one more deserving. 695 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 5: Oh thank you so much. 696 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 7: Dan. 697 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 5: I appreciate that. 698 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: And I shook a lot of hands and because of it, 699 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm sick, but I'm fine. 700 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 5: We're gonna do. Okay, here, I have been knocking down 701 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: that tumeric And. 702 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 7: Weren't you pivoting to fist bumps after COVID. Didn't you 703 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 7: start stop shaking hands and start fist bumping. 704 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 5: Oh, I've predicted it. She says, you're gonna get six. 705 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: She said, you just wiped your nose. Somebody has shook 706 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 5: your hand. It's whatever, Who cares? I'm telling you. 707 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: You and I last night watching Seattle impressive. It really, 708 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, in the air thing people forget. I watched 709 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: arch Manning this weekend. 710 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: He was very good. People. 711 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: People are like, well, I mean he wasn't good early. 712 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: You have to remember college football seasons now J Mack 713 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: or like, can be fourteen games there? I mean it 714 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: used to be college football is eleven games. Now it's 715 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: like fourteen. 716 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 7: But the thing about Seattle, so they win ten games 717 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 7: last year and they decide, eah, we don't like where 718 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 7: we're going, we don't like the trajectory. Let's trade our quarterback. Right, 719 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,959 Speaker 7: they get rid of Geno Smith and let's get off 720 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 7: Dk Metcalf. 721 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 8: And they're better Colin and Tyler Locke. Impressive. 722 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 7: So Minnesota won a lot of games last year with 723 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 7: Arnold and they decided we're going to change it up 724 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 7: and it's not going as much. 725 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: Well, I think these decisions are hard. I think I 726 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: think Seattle liked DK Metcalf, but he had been a 727 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: bit high maintenance. And also you have to remember they 728 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: had seen JSN the year before. They get to see practice. 729 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: You know a lot of these organizations they get stuff 730 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: that we don't see. So you're like, oh, is JSN 731 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: a one? Well, John Snyder and his staff clearly in 732 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: the off season said he was great as a rookie. 733 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: He's a one, so we can move off him. So 734 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: we as much homework as you and I do. We're 735 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: not watching Seahawk practice film. So Seattle obviously saw JSN 736 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: and went, oh, this kid is inches away if we 737 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: could get him a more a better deep ball thrower, 738 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: and a better quarterback. 739 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: And Darnold's better than Genos. 740 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 8: Featuring him more this year as opposed the last year. 741 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 7: So remember in the NBA Kentucky guards pop in the 742 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 7: NBA Ohio State receivers Abuca. 743 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 6: I mean, he looks like a Nickel number one. 744 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Oh no, those guys, and they got two of them 745 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, they got they have two other receivers. 746 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: You know that Harrison at Arizona has been the disappointment. 747 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Everybody else is over delivered out of Ohio state. All right, 748 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: done for the day. First things first. On a Monday, 749 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: look gloomy for old Nick.