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Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank
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Speaker 1: the business, standing on it. What we're doing. We're standing
Speaker 1: on business today. Take a special breed. You had to
Speaker 1: have been in this ship a long motherfucker time, a
Speaker 1: lengthy tenure early early, the amounts of experience to be
Speaker 1: this type of individual, to be this kind of a person,
Speaker 1: to have this type.
Speaker 3: Of represented to write it and all right, huh.
Speaker 1: So many things come in the form of lead. The
Speaker 1: many dialects.
Speaker 4: Yes, you are low key look Ethiopian. And people have
Speaker 4: asked me in my community if you're Ethiopian because they
Speaker 4: know I know you really, They're like, he's off shot.
Speaker 1: I should do it. I should should I should do
Speaker 1: I should do it? Twenty three and meter you should
Speaker 1: and see what's going on.
Speaker 4: I could see it.
Speaker 1: You might find out.
Speaker 3: So she's your one, know man, That's that's why I
Speaker 3: always look at you.
Speaker 4: Where you find out some ship.
Speaker 1: To do, Let's just see what happens. I can get
Speaker 1: a dolphin by something. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: can really tap into the culture and some things happening
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 4: I know there are, but you do look it?
Speaker 1: Okay, what what is? What is? What is the look?
Speaker 1: What is? What is? What am I giving?
Speaker 4: What you're giving is it's the proportions of our face.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have I know, you
Speaker 4: know because you from the bad You've seen a lot
Speaker 4: of Ethiopians in all East Africans, but we have a
Speaker 4: he does a lot, so you should know it. Just
Speaker 4: I think we just have a distinctive look, like eyes
Speaker 4: are set, our noses are set. I think that's mostly
Speaker 4: it's mostly right here, but yours kind of looks like
Speaker 4: like you look like a couple of my cousins.
Speaker 3: Give you a name because the rail doesn't sound.
Speaker 4: Very well yeah, I know, but the rails, I mean
Speaker 4: that's what your mom picked or your dad.
Speaker 1: Sole Ethiopian.
Speaker 4: You do. It would be like ted Ross. Ted Ross.
Speaker 3: Wasn't it wasn't that the Weekends name and it was
Speaker 3: in that TV show he was like the club promoter
Speaker 3: wild Nigga remember that.
Speaker 4: But like the number one Ethiopian singers name is Teddy.
Speaker 1: Opro Teddy He's huge.
Speaker 4: Put his song at the end of her concert when
Speaker 4: she went to Ethiopia, and it went it was for
Speaker 4: our New Year's and she like played it after she
Speaker 4: was done and had her dancers dance with everybody crazy.
Speaker 4: They said it was shaking the stadium.
Speaker 1: Ship nuts. I was there to be always tapping in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was twenty eleven. Friend.
Speaker 1: We always find ourselves in cool room, whether it be
Speaker 1: some some fitness equivent around some papers to be signed,
Speaker 1: and we always.
Speaker 4: We always are, We always are outside in some capacity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, you know, I think it's just
Speaker 1: very very very vital and important to have this conversation,
Speaker 1: your conversation, you know, so people can understand not just
Speaker 1: the ins and outs, but there's a different level of
Speaker 1: in and out being a woman of color in this space, a.
Speaker 4: Woman in general and woman period, and then a woman
Speaker 4: of color, yeah, and then a young and then you know,
Speaker 4: young just like.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get it thirty thirty.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying so funny.
Speaker 1: I ain't, I ain't, I ain't been listen God is good.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, yeah, I had a four focus. You had
Speaker 1: to be focused in that motherfucker to.
Speaker 4: You know, I was in the Camra that was my
Speaker 4: car I had.
Speaker 1: I literally had a four Folk. I was pulling up
Speaker 1: to Underdog Studio with a four focus.
Speaker 3: Really oh yeah, driving from Corona, had so many jokes.
Speaker 1: I was literally driving from Corena so many.
Speaker 3: At least the gas was good because he had already
Speaker 3: had applying the album out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what I mean, It's just business.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you sunk up the money.
Speaker 4: I understand.
Speaker 1: Now I had a house.
Speaker 4: Okay, you were doing it the right way because I
Speaker 4: know a lot of people who have the car and
Speaker 4: don't have the house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't doing it. I was on fumes. I was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't fully furnished, a lot of a lot of chili.
Speaker 1: Did they come back? Did they come back and get it?
Speaker 1: Eventually somebody came and got it, as if the house
Speaker 1: was going anywhere. Did they come back and get it?
Speaker 1: Here's what's crazy, as as I'm losing the house. Uh,
Speaker 1: the realtor who sold me the house the house out
Speaker 1: from under me at the short cell.
Speaker 4: Price, not praying on your downfall.
Speaker 1: Absolutely wow, wow, played well.
Speaker 4: They got the commission and they got it back.
Speaker 1: The kind of bought it with his money.
Speaker 4: Yeah they did, but look at you now.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be mad because I needed it off my books.
Speaker 1: Please please take this motherfucker. I'm doing bad. That was divorced.
Speaker 1: Just a tough time. Anyway, back to you, Okay, what.
Speaker 4: A great space you're in now, shout out to you.
Speaker 4: God is good. Right, Oh, let's start sermoning.
Speaker 1: You. Just don't stop working. That's true, That's really all
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: That really is what it is though. Yeah, that's like
Speaker 4: my life story. Just don't stop.
Speaker 1: Because downfall, I mean not downfalls, but knockdowns are inevitable.
Speaker 1: It's life in any fight, it's inevitable. What are you
Speaker 1: going to do after that? I'm going to act like
Speaker 1: I didn't just fall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, until i'm up again.
Speaker 1: I'm going, I promise you, you're gonna think I'm still
Speaker 1: doing something. In the middle of me doing absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: When I was waiting outside them clubs, waiting for Jamie
Speaker 1: Fox to cup so I could get in, I was
Speaker 1: dancing in front of the club. Were coming in a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting on Jamie because you know, he got
Speaker 1: he got all of you, all the stuff with him,
Speaker 1: So i'mna I'm gonna come in he come in, his
Speaker 1: bouncers was like, you're not coming in same bounces that
Speaker 1: used to do security for me.
Speaker 4: And that's that's when it's full circle.
Speaker 3: That's that's that is then just that's the entertainment industry
Speaker 3: industry in anshell.
Speaker 4: And it's like and it feels that that that is
Speaker 4: what low key makes all this stuff, Like Okay, I
Speaker 4: could do it again, Yeah you can do it again.
Speaker 1: What do you want to do right there? When the
Speaker 1: bouncer that used to work for you says, no, no,
Speaker 1: you can't not right now, it's gonna be one hundred
Speaker 1: hundred of person.
Speaker 4: Most people would just go under the couch, and.
Speaker 1: I still had to get in there, you go, I
Speaker 1: still had to get in there. Look a crook. I'll wait.
Speaker 1: How far are you Jamie?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: We about forty minutes A were finishing up. If okay,
Speaker 1: I was going.
Speaker 4: Playing out the time right? Better time? Why did you
Speaker 4: leave before he told you he was on the way.
Speaker 1: That's your fault because Jamie is always late.
Speaker 4: Then you should have known that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, the thirst was real clear, j you chasing
Speaker 1: the crack and again, absolutely I gotta have it.
Speaker 4: I would have just went to where there was eating.
Speaker 1: No, there's a chance that I would have missed him
Speaker 1: right listen, because he comes. Because Jamie is one of
Speaker 1: those guys like if you don't walk in with.
Speaker 4: Him, it's over. Well, no, that's everyone, good luck, that's
Speaker 4: not everyone. That's mostly everyone.
Speaker 1: Mostly if we go to the door and get I know, y'all, I.
Speaker 4: Know y'all, y'all do I remember when we were in Vegas
Speaker 4: so training Wars last year.
Speaker 1: I'm not going for my people not getting in.
Speaker 4: That's true. But if it's live on a Sunday night,
Speaker 4: I'm going to get you.
Speaker 1: You will.
Speaker 3: We're going to go find Mike. You guys, Mike, I
Speaker 3: need you, baby.
Speaker 4: Come on, you guys will.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know the industry. The industry won't.
Speaker 4: Or or you standing outside for the forty minutes dance
Speaker 4: on my tank.
Speaker 1: Bro, you know you know we in here and bro,
Speaker 1: there was no.
Speaker 3: Holes on your phone that she replied to or just
Speaker 3: walk there standing next to one of them.
Speaker 1: I said that I'll be out to get you. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's funny and ship right there though.
Speaker 4: That's the way I'm talking to him. Yeah, we together?
Speaker 1: Are we coming? Lydia? You guys, let's go back to
Speaker 1: the beginning.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay, why not we have time we do.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the bay, Let's go to.
Speaker 4: Where we reside.
Speaker 1: Give me the bay, give me the early beginnings of
Speaker 1: you finding your way into this okay? And why so?
Speaker 4: I am Ethiopian clearly, and I always just since I
Speaker 4: can remember, my parents said, since I was like two
Speaker 4: or three, since I could stand, I just watched Whitney
Speaker 4: Houston on TV. Like there's videos home videos of just
Speaker 4: me watching and like trying to dance like her and
Speaker 4: just humming shit. And it's like, I've loved music since then.
Speaker 4: I don't remember a time where I didn't love music.
Speaker 4: So I was like, cool, bet in my head, I'm
Speaker 4: doing music. I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm
Speaker 4: doing music as like a six, seven, eight year old
Speaker 4: until I started to be like I can hold a no,
Speaker 4: I can kind of singing, Okay. So then I got
Speaker 4: into elementary school and I would sing in the choirs
Speaker 4: and be the vocalist. Also, I went to all white
Speaker 4: school from K through eight. Me and my sister and
Speaker 4: two other boys who were brothers were the only black
Speaker 4: people in the school. Private school.
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all had a little money amen.
Speaker 4: We were blessed. My father came from me the opia
Speaker 4: and started a business that did well. Pops did that,
Speaker 4: and so he was like, oh, yeah, you're going to
Speaker 4: be a doctor or a lawyer. Lawyer, you know that's
Speaker 4: the two, especially in the African household. Doctor lawyer. Now
Speaker 4: they've thrown an engineer in there. I heard.
Speaker 1: I heard.
Speaker 4: Engineers now a thing, which was cool. That's there wasn't
Speaker 4: my ship. So I was like, okay, So now I
Speaker 4: was always being picked to sing at these and do
Speaker 4: all that, and I was like, cool, this is what
Speaker 4: I want to do. To the point where my dad
Speaker 4: was like a church he still is. My dad loved
Speaker 4: my dad and my mom, but my dad heavily involved
Speaker 4: in church, like on the board, vice president, treasurer all that.
Speaker 4: So we were going to church every Sunday to the
Speaker 4: point and like the bishop of all of our whole
Speaker 4: situation community would come over every Sunday have dinner with
Speaker 4: us and stuff. And one night we were driving him
Speaker 4: home and he goes, Lydia, what do you want to be?
Speaker 4: My dad almost literally stopped the car and looked back
Speaker 4: at me like, don't you dear say you want to
Speaker 4: be a singer, and I was like, I want to
Speaker 4: be music. And he literally started doing the Sign of
Speaker 4: the Cross and started no the bishop and like praying
Speaker 4: and my dad was like she has to know, you know,
Speaker 4: and like doing the whole sign of the Cross, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, what did I do? Like what's wrong with
Speaker 4: being in music? Like I don't understand, and it it
Speaker 4: just you know, they're old fashioned and it just like
Speaker 4: in any church music was like the devil's work. You're
Speaker 4: not supposed to be unless you singing for God. And
Speaker 4: I didn't say I wanted to be singing in the church.
Speaker 4: I just said I wanted to be in music. So
Speaker 4: my dad dropped him off and he was like, what's
Speaker 4: with you? Why would you say that? And I was
Speaker 4: like I don't know, Like that's what I want to do,
Speaker 4: you know. And he's like that's really hard and you know,
Speaker 4: just make sure you stay in your own path. And
Speaker 4: I was like okay, but I didn't. I was the
Speaker 4: old I'm the oldest, Like I was doing what I
Speaker 4: wanted to do, but I also played volleyball and sports,
Speaker 4: and my dad was like, maybe you'll just stick on that.
Speaker 4: Not to say my dad didn't believe my dreams because
Speaker 4: he did. I love him, but he just is like,
Speaker 4: how first off, I am an African man with a hard,
Speaker 4: heavy accent. I don't know nothing about that. What are like,
Speaker 4: who are you looking up to? And that was my
Speaker 4: biggest thing.
Speaker 3: Especially is the past Ethiopian as well? Yes, also the
Speaker 3: church is.
Speaker 4: The church is a completely Ethiopian church, Ethiopian Orthodox, and
Speaker 4: it's called Madonnia Lem and it's like very very like
Speaker 4: a huge affluent church in Oakland. But he was not.
Speaker 4: He came from Ethiopia too, so he's like one of
Speaker 4: the hires of like all of the diocese and all
Speaker 4: that stuff. And I'm probably butchering the names of all
Speaker 4: this stuff, but he's like one of that. Like we
Speaker 4: don't have a pope, but he's like one of those
Speaker 4: highest ones. So I said it to like imagine like
Speaker 4: somebody writing underneath the pope not knowing, and I just
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, I don't know what to
Speaker 4: tell you. This is my thing to the point where
Speaker 4: like my dad would be like, Okay, you can't listen
Speaker 4: to bad songs and stuff. And my grandpa knew I
Speaker 4: loved music, so he would like get me be too.
Speaker 4: I will never forget B two K B two K
Speaker 4: Pandemonium album. Listen. That's the only thing I wanted. He
Speaker 4: got it. I have my Walkman. You guys remember the Walkman.
Speaker 4: So one day I was feeling it. I think my
Speaker 4: dad was like what is she listening to? Because he
Speaker 4: was like, call my name. I didn't answer, and he's like,
Speaker 4: what are you listening to? And I was like, oh shit, nothing.
Speaker 4: He was like, let's go in the car, give me
Speaker 4: the CD.
Speaker 3: Literally, that's exactly what he pressed playing.
Speaker 4: The first thing is all the sexy ladies around the world,
Speaker 4: around the world. He said, come on, all I want
Speaker 4: to do is see that sexy body go bump, bump, bump.
Speaker 4: And my dad turned to me with the most discussed discussed.
Speaker 1: I'm like, twelve, I would do the same thing.
Speaker 4: He was like, what is he saying? He said, what
Speaker 4: is he saying? I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just like the beat.
Speaker 4: He said, okay, I'll get you. So I'll get you
Speaker 4: a full album with just beats and took it out
Speaker 4: and broke the whole album, like broke the CD in
Speaker 4: front of me. I cried. He was like, where are
Speaker 4: your boxes? I was like, I don't know, I hate them.
Speaker 4: My mom came in. She was like, leave her alone.
Speaker 4: My mom was the only one championing, like this your
Speaker 4: grandfather and my grandpa. My mom called my grandpa. It
Speaker 4: was her dad too. Told him next day she said,
Speaker 4: chuck into your pillow.
Speaker 1: When you go home. You got her, another one got me.
Speaker 4: I was bumping off my way home as soon as
Speaker 4: I saw my dad came turned it down.
Speaker 1: Hate it.
Speaker 4: It was that the whole time, and then until I
Speaker 4: started to go. I went finally to high school, BIS
Speaker 4: pulled out and I was like niggas.
Speaker 1: It was niggas everywhere it was.
Speaker 4: It was just people who looked like me. And I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, to the point where my
Speaker 4: grade started pumpinging like. My dad had to sit me down.
Speaker 4: He was like, I'm gonna put you in a in
Speaker 4: the public school. You go on the skyline. Keep talking
Speaker 4: around me.
Speaker 3: He didn't want to see him from from Bishop down
Speaker 3: the skyline, you really would have been turned on top
Speaker 3: of that hill.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know Bishop O'Dell here.
Speaker 4: I didn't know, but he knew you already went to school.
Speaker 4: You have friends, so if I take you out, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be a problem. Keep playing around, and I was
Speaker 4: like okay, okay, okay, but it was just like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I just have people who look like me,
Speaker 4: like girls, boys, everything. They were fine. I was having
Speaker 4: crushes on Sean and Connor, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: like not knowing, and so I went there and then
Speaker 4: I joined choir there too, but I also was playing
Speaker 4: volleyball like year round, and that's when it was it
Speaker 4: was over. My dad was like, okay, it's she's gonna
Speaker 4: do whatever she wants to do because at that point
Speaker 4: I had posters of all these people on my wall.
Speaker 4: Now he used to take them off. That was done.
Speaker 4: He found out me and my mom. My mom drove
Speaker 4: me like three hours away to Modesto. I think it
Speaker 4: was for this Like I don't know who it was.
Speaker 4: I might have been in La Reid or somebody like
Speaker 4: that was throwing audition and like went there. My mom
Speaker 4: had me do it with not telling my dad.
Speaker 1: Well, now he knows, and I know what she wants
Speaker 1: you talking about.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. It was I think
Speaker 3: it was through Hitco, but it was she Kis Stewart
Speaker 3: because he was from Oakland and he had did, he
Speaker 3: had done a few auditions back home, and.
Speaker 4: It was like you need to come to LA and
Speaker 4: stay here for like.
Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's what that was.
Speaker 3: I think it was because maybe what fifteen sixteen years
Speaker 3: ago or maybe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thirty one now, so it was like I
Speaker 4: was like fourteen fifteen and they picked me.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And mom was like, shit, I don't know what's wanted
Speaker 4: to do now. Your dad don't know about this, and
Speaker 4: it was like you have to you have to send
Speaker 4: your kid away kind of and my mom was like,
Speaker 4: I don't know. You want to own now? And I'm like, girl,
Speaker 4: what you mean, Like what how are we going? She
Speaker 4: was like I don't know, you know, And he was
Speaker 4: like over my dead body, over my dead body.
Speaker 1: So you get picked and I don't.
Speaker 4: I declined, Wow, yeah again.
Speaker 1: Yeah you cried again.
Speaker 4: I was so hurt because I was like he just
Speaker 4: ruined my life. He just ruled my life because I
Speaker 4: didn't even know exactly, Like I didn't know if I
Speaker 4: want to be a songwriter. I don't know if I
Speaker 4: wanted to be in front of it. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I wanted to be a manager. I didn't know
Speaker 4: if I I always loved A and R though, like
Speaker 4: picking and hearing different things and putting a song together,
Speaker 4: so I knew that was something I loved. But I
Speaker 4: sang too, so it's like, do I want to be that?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 4: I don't know? And I was like, but you just
Speaker 4: took it all away from me. We used to watch
Speaker 4: Making the Band and Dannity Kane in Day twenty six
Speaker 4: as a family, so it's like the one chance I
Speaker 4: had to be in that. But I think that's what
Speaker 4: scared him, because he was like, look at that right right,
Speaker 4: run down, You're gonna run down and get cheesecake. Oh
Speaker 4: he don't know, you know, but anyways, you know, like
Speaker 4: it just so he said no, and I was like,
Speaker 4: I hate it here. I hate it here, I hate
Speaker 4: it here, Like this is terrible, And I know now.
Speaker 4: I knew later too, when I went to college.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to protect me, you know, in
Speaker 1: terms of the only way he knew how right, right,
Speaker 1: because you know, he knows nothing about it. A lot
Speaker 1: of us are first generation this, yeah, so all he
Speaker 1: knows is what you just said to making the band
Speaker 1: and going to get cheesecake fifty miles away, right, And
Speaker 1: I'm not letting my daughter go through that and not
Speaker 1: your mind. I'll kill somebody over there exactly.
Speaker 4: And then I can't even do You're not in the
Speaker 4: same city as me, so I can't run up and no,
Speaker 4: you're not doing it. You're not doing it. So our
Speaker 4: compromise was I'll give you piano lessons, and I was like, okay, man,
Speaker 4: that's that's.
Speaker 1: It's gonna help the crab.
Speaker 4: No, I never got the piano lessons. He got okay
Speaker 4: because he was like, you find the person. Every person
Speaker 4: I find, he'd be like, I don't want them in
Speaker 4: my house.
Speaker 1: Possible. Wow, I like what you're doing.
Speaker 4: And no games, it's just like I feel you. I
Speaker 4: feel you. You know, you're just trying to protect me. Doctor, lawyer, lawyer.
Speaker 4: And my sister is like the smartest person I know,
Speaker 4: and like had she got accept to Harvard, she got
Speaker 4: she went to Stanford. She picked Stanford when Stanford is dead? Yeah,
Speaker 4: she picked do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, and what cow did you go to?
Speaker 4: I went toll you okay, I went to Loyhill, mamou.
Speaker 1: So you found your way to la though, You're like.
Speaker 4: Oh, I knew. I was like cool. So if you're
Speaker 4: not gonna let me as soon as I turned eighteen,
Speaker 4: I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I knew it.
Speaker 4: I didn't even care what school I got into. I
Speaker 4: wanted to go to USC I got. I think I
Speaker 4: got accepted, like second semester or something, and he exd
Speaker 4: that out because he's like, so you're gonna take a
Speaker 4: semester off and just be in LA No. I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll go to l ME. I don't care. I'm out.
Speaker 4: I'm out, And I went with my cousin's fake ID.
Speaker 4: So the first as soon as I stepped there, I
Speaker 4: was already in the clubs, I met like, I met
Speaker 4: Brandon Moore, do you know be more YG's manager as
Speaker 4: a I think I was like nineteen and he was so.
Speaker 4: He was somebody who was like, so, like you want
Speaker 4: to be in this okay? Cool? Like I was trying.
Speaker 4: I saw the clubs as a networking place. I was like,
Speaker 4: this is how I can get closer to these artists
Speaker 4: or these managers or these A and rs or whatever. Cool.
Speaker 4: I'm going in there. I don't even drink, so I'm
Speaker 4: not getting drunk. Y'all all can think everyone else is drunk.
Speaker 4: But now I get to talk to you, and you're
Speaker 4: not going to be like, who's this person? So I
Speaker 4: knew people are a little more vocal when they're drunk,
Speaker 4: a little more.
Speaker 3: You know, they give you more information, sometimes information you
Speaker 3: don't want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, use it.
Speaker 4: It's sober as sober as hell. So I I yeah,
Speaker 4: I finished out high school. I had a great I
Speaker 4: had such a great time in the Bay. But also
Speaker 4: the Bay is such a melting pot of music, Like
Speaker 4: people were going dumb and the high food movement was
Speaker 4: a thing. Mac dre keep the Sneak, like all of
Speaker 4: these all of these men. It was mostly men. But
Speaker 4: also shout out to Keisha because Keisha Cole was doing
Speaker 4: her thing, and there was there was there was other
Speaker 4: women who were doing things for Oakland too. But it
Speaker 4: was such a melting pot of like we're creating our
Speaker 4: own culture. And I was like, this is so dope.
Speaker 4: We have our own sound. How can we make it
Speaker 4: even bigger? Like when you're from the Bay, I feel
Speaker 4: like everyone knows like we repped the Bay, Like yeah,
Speaker 4: we from Oakland, like or the Babe in general, but
Speaker 4: like you rep it. So I came to La and
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just I'm just this girl from
Speaker 4: the Bay and I know music. They were like, okay,
Speaker 4: what do you do?
Speaker 1: It's like I got LMUT got it down.
Speaker 4: There, and then it was such a like not black
Speaker 4: school that it's like girl, and I'm like, I do.
Speaker 4: But then I got my internship at Warner Brothers.
Speaker 1: How do you get that? Though?
Speaker 4: LMU shout out to LMU. They had a great They
Speaker 4: had this online. You had to do the work. So
Speaker 4: they had a whole system, a whole portal for like
Speaker 4: internships and jobs, part time jobs while you're there. So
Speaker 4: I worked a full time job, not full time, but
Speaker 4: I worked a full time that you could do while
Speaker 4: you were in school because I was a full time student.
Speaker 4: And then I was like I need an internship. I
Speaker 4: need to somehow because I worked on campus. And so
Speaker 4: I was like, how do I do this? Because the
Speaker 4: way that set it up is like there's this amount
Speaker 4: of money that you could get if you work on campus,
Speaker 4: but if you don't work on campus, they don't give
Speaker 4: it to you, and now it's like harder for you
Speaker 4: to do it. So I was like, okay, So I'm
Speaker 4: scrolling through and one of my Actually, one of my
Speaker 4: good friends, Chloe, hits me and she's like, girl, there's
Speaker 4: this internship for Warner brother Records on here. And I
Speaker 4: was like, where I've been looking. It was like one
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pages shit, and there'd be like one
Speaker 4: hundred on each page and you and their words. They're
Speaker 4: not pictures or anything, so it's like homework. You're like, no,
Speaker 4: I don't want to be Deloitte. No, I'm not an engineer.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: And there was nothing to really like search through. You
Speaker 4: just had to search through it yourself because you're it
Speaker 4: was back in the day. So she was like here
Speaker 4: and sends me the link. Fill it out. Literally the
Speaker 4: next week I got a response, went there, did an interview.
Speaker 4: They were like we're picking a few people, bl blah
Speaker 4: blah blah, and I was like, oh my god, please
Speaker 4: mind you. Lmu is in Westchester, Warner Brothers is in Burbank.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That dry like he was interscoping. You had
Speaker 1: to go right to you can go to.
Speaker 4: Santa Monica hour and change, and I have no money.
Speaker 4: I have no money, So I'm like, okay, that one
Speaker 4: that one time was cute. I could afford it. They
Speaker 4: called me They're like, we're picking you. You got it.
Speaker 4: I remember exactly where I was. I was leaving the
Speaker 4: Westfield Mall, fox Hills, Fox. I was leaving fox Hills.
Speaker 4: That was our spot, left fox Hills. Got the call.
Speaker 4: I was ecstatic, you're starting next week. It's like, okay, great,
Speaker 4: this is amazing. And then I was like do you
Speaker 4: get paid? They're like, you got college credit?
Speaker 1: Girl?
Speaker 4: I was like, because you know, they get paid now,
Speaker 4: paid internships.
Speaker 1: They paid intern you.
Speaker 4: Can sue them if you don't get paid like a
Speaker 4: full job.
Speaker 1: It is different. Yes, it's different.
Speaker 4: It's different now they get fully paid.
Speaker 1: So you know what, Yes, it's better.
Speaker 4: Now it's good and I'm happy for the kids, but
Speaker 4: it was it was rough for us because I still
Speaker 4: had to do my job. So now I'm in my
Speaker 4: accounselor's office, like, how do I change my schedule around?
Speaker 4: I moved all my classes to Tuesdays and Thursdays so
Speaker 4: that I could go into WBR, which is Warner Brothers Monday.
Speaker 4: Once it Friday.
Speaker 1: Wow, but well, how are you getting there driving?
Speaker 4: You had a car though I had a car. I
Speaker 4: had my little black camera called her Cocoa.
Speaker 1: But you didn't have much money.
Speaker 4: I didn't have no money. I didn't have no money
Speaker 4: to the war where it was like my friends would
Speaker 4: be like, it's my birthday, can you come to the paper.
Speaker 4: My brother I was like, y'all all going pitching ten
Speaker 4: dollars for this megabus for me to come back, because
Speaker 4: if not, I don't know what to tell y'all. My
Speaker 4: money is for my food and that's about it.
Speaker 1: Food, That's it.
Speaker 4: And even though yes, my parents.
Speaker 1: Are living on campus, I was living on a camp.
Speaker 4: They were paying helping me pay for my college. So
Speaker 4: they were like, got it. Girl also was playing volleyball,
Speaker 4: but like, no, you got it?
Speaker 1: Oh do you keep saying volleyball? You were playing volleyball?
Speaker 4: I played volleyball. I was a little barro. You see
Speaker 4: how you coming from me? I'm five to three.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just listen. I know volleyball.
Speaker 4: My daughter plays volleyball febro.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like I was good. You gotta
Speaker 1: be good. I was great to be five three and
Speaker 1: playing college volleyball. You got to be exceptional.
Speaker 4: Well that didn't last that long, right, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but even it was like freshman year.
Speaker 1: But even to make the team like to say, I
Speaker 1: played volleyball like I've watched those girls. I've been to
Speaker 1: the tryouts and I'm like this, Oh there's levels and
Speaker 1: that's just in high school.
Speaker 4: In high school, that's what I'm saying. I played two
Speaker 4: teams like I was playing year round volleyball. That was
Speaker 4: my but I loved it like club, so you know
Speaker 4: their club. I played club. Club was more important than.
Speaker 1: Absolutely no the ever trying to get Zoey's club or
Speaker 1: the thing that she was going to play in the Again,
Speaker 1: the practices are likes west Lake area. The games are
Speaker 1: in Orange County Riverside every weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or even what my practices were in Pleasanton in
Speaker 4: Dublin because he knows how far.
Speaker 1: And that.
Speaker 4: But my dad, Amen, but my dad every what time
Speaker 4: your game's at seven and blah blah blah and aar
Speaker 4: and half away, I'll car pull all the girls like
Speaker 4: he was about that. He was about that at every game.
Speaker 4: You did that wrong? He was you worried about this
Speaker 4: too much? Like he did not play. My sister was
Speaker 4: really good at soccer two.
Speaker 1: Anything to get you off the bump she was chasing.
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 1: I went to that.
Speaker 4: That was another thing we were there thick my cousins
Speaker 4: there's like, you know, you see Kardashian. He's like, oh,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of them. Our family. There's like twelve
Speaker 4: first cousins and we're all girls and we're all the same,
Speaker 4: like around the same age, and.
Speaker 1: We used to do everything.
Speaker 4: What so my uncle, I'm telling all his business. Sorry uncle,
Speaker 4: he part he's in it. I'll just say he's part
Speaker 4: or somehow into the parking and Oracle arena.
Speaker 1: So he of course he is.
Speaker 4: Of course he is.
Speaker 1: You guys, you guys own all the parking around the world.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he was. He was whenever we needed to
Speaker 4: go to a show. What and he got us the
Speaker 4: front row at the It was the Bow Wow and
Speaker 4: Chris brown Win. Oh yeah, I'll never forget that. It
Speaker 4: was the one where you remember when Chris was on
Speaker 4: the thing and it like lifted y'all might not remember.
Speaker 4: That was a core memory for me. It was on
Speaker 4: It was like a thing that lifted up and he's
Speaker 4: like hanging off and doing the dances on the hanging thing.
Speaker 4: Y'all remember that.
Speaker 1: I had to see it.
Speaker 3: I don't think we felt take you down feel the
Speaker 3: same way, probably not about it.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, I'll take you down.
Speaker 4: It was gonna take you down, me and my cousins.
Speaker 4: Thank god my dad didn't go. He would have grabbed
Speaker 4: all of us by our hair and took us out.
Speaker 4: We were screaming like crazy.
Speaker 1: Front. It was theirs in the front. Yeah, my crew,
Speaker 1: y'all whole show.
Speaker 4: And we would have said right back because we need.
Speaker 4: And it was our aunts. It was like our aunts
Speaker 4: and our and my mom and all the and they
Speaker 4: loved it. They were if they would have picked us
Speaker 4: to go up, they would have let them because the
Speaker 4: mom's be cool. It's the dads, the dad's. Like one
Speaker 4: time I brought a man home and all the dads
Speaker 4: lined up like this at a at a graduation party
Speaker 4: to talk to him.
Speaker 1: Who who is this nigga?
Speaker 4: That's crazy?
Speaker 3: He wasn't my boyfriend. Listen, I can't wait for those days,
Speaker 3: see y'all not. I can't wait. My daughter thinks it's
Speaker 3: gonna be sweet. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: He gonna he's gonna he gonna all right, No, you.
Speaker 4: Too nice, you're nice thing. You're not gonna be mean, you.
Speaker 1: Know, I'm not, no, I mean. But when it's time
Speaker 1: for his baby girl, we're gonna act up. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: young man, you know this is like forty right, this
Speaker 1: is what it is. They don't face paint on like
Speaker 1: it's gonna you know with this than I mean, listen, man, y'all,
Speaker 1: that's not nice. We're not supposed to be nice.
Speaker 4: My mom and all of them were crying in the back.
Speaker 4: Though they think the ship is so funny, they were
Speaker 4: tears were falling because I was like mom. He didn't
Speaker 4: say word him in the car. He asked him, like,
Speaker 4: how you doing? My dad just he looked forward. I
Speaker 4: was like, Dad, he said, how are you doing? He's like, who.
Speaker 1: Own business? Stand on it?
Speaker 4: My little brother in the back, he's like, you're a
Speaker 4: football player. What do you do?
Speaker 1: He making it worse. Don't talk to him. He's invisible,
Speaker 1: so you now, what do you do? What are you doing?
Speaker 4: In Warner Brothers, I was in marketing the first the
Speaker 4: first internship because you know, it's per semester. So my
Speaker 4: first semester I was in marketing and it was like
Speaker 4: my eyes were finally glued open because I never seen
Speaker 4: in my head. I'm like, I'm gonna go in there.
Speaker 4: They're gonna love me, and I'm gonna play them. Either's
Speaker 4: some music I'm gonna happen to sing, or I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do something. They're gonna give me everything, like a record deal,
Speaker 4: or they're gonna give me a job as an A
Speaker 4: and R or you know, like the most not happening
Speaker 4: shit is what's gonna happen? And I get there and
Speaker 4: it was like, can you go get us a coffee?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, right right, can you go? Can
Speaker 4: you can you research this? Can you put this in
Speaker 4: some notes? Can you go print a hundred copies of
Speaker 4: this for the can you take these notes in this?
Speaker 4: In this meeting? I was like, oh, we do not
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 3: One are the projects that you remember, like off the
Speaker 3: off the top, like that you got into as soon
Speaker 3: as you got there, like that they may have had that.
Speaker 1: You was like, oh, ship, okay, I get to somewhere.
Speaker 3: Notes for the first semester, no one nothing, no.
Speaker 4: Because the man I was underneath shout out to you're cool.
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna say your name. But he was
Speaker 4: just not my time. We were not connected musically.
Speaker 3: You know, they just sounds like yeah, fuck you, you're cool.
Speaker 4: You know he was cool. He just was like a
Speaker 4: white boy who like rock music and stuff. And it's like,
Speaker 4: I'm I was listening to Brandy and Jill Scott and
Speaker 4: Usher Like that wasn't I was like, what the who where?
Speaker 4: So now me being you know, Magglin and husband, I
Speaker 4: was like, who in this building do I need to
Speaker 4: go under for the next semester? So now I start
Speaker 4: meeting the people and no one black was on my
Speaker 4: immediate team, so like I was like, where are the
Speaker 4: black people at? Where are the people who look like
Speaker 4: me at? And that's when I started researching too, just
Speaker 4: in general, who's somebody that I really could look up to?
Speaker 4: And that's when I learned all about Ethiopia. Wow, and
Speaker 4: Ethiopia was like this force in my life. I've told
Speaker 4: her this so she knows now, But I was like,
Speaker 4: you were my mentor without being my mentor, because number one,
Speaker 4: you are a woman in this space who's doing some
Speaker 4: shit that none of us has seen a woman do. Right,
Speaker 4: you are a black woman in the space doing some
Speaker 4: shit no black woman has ever done. Or Sylvia Ron
Speaker 4: and you you know what I mean, Like, there's there's
Speaker 4: a few that I can name. I'm missing something, but
Speaker 4: there's a few I can name, but an Ethiopian woman,
Speaker 4: and your name's Ethiopia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Walking in saying and that's why, that's why I've made
Speaker 4: my Instagram. It was open because I wanted you to
Speaker 4: know I'm Ethiopian and I'm doing this. There's not a
Speaker 4: lot of us I speaking.
Speaker 1: When you walk back there, when you walk back, was
Speaker 1: like I know, she's like, she's like, it's her Instagram.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I saw you followed me, took you long enough.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was your girl. Just kidding.
Speaker 1: I know better. I did better.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. You know. I'm playing with you. I
Speaker 4: love tell her, Yeah, that's my girl. But that's why
Speaker 4: I did that, because it was like I want I'm
Speaker 4: so proud of my culture and I'm so proud to
Speaker 4: just be where I'm from and to experience everything. And
Speaker 4: I've been to fourteen times. Oh okay, so I'm tapped
Speaker 4: in and I was like, yo, she's doing this. And
Speaker 4: then I started reading. I was like, she's been doing
Speaker 4: this since she was a kid. Because I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. I'm in the record space place, record
Speaker 4: label place as a teenager. Nah, you in there as
Speaker 4: a college student girl. She was in there was she
Speaker 4: barely in high school? Yeah, fourteen, And I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm late. I'm like, I'm super late. My dad, I
Speaker 4: knew it, you know what I mean, triggered, triggered I
Speaker 4: could have. I was right there. I don't blame him anymore.
Speaker 4: I love it very much. But it was that because
Speaker 4: I was like, I knew I wanted to, but for
Speaker 4: her to be doing that, and then I just went
Speaker 4: on a deep dive read everything about her, read every
Speaker 4: move she made, and I was like, Wow, I cannot
Speaker 4: wait to hopefully meet this woman because she has changed
Speaker 4: my whole mental of this now. And I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I need to go fine to people who look let
Speaker 4: me around here. And I did, and I started interning
Speaker 4: in publicity after that with Felicia Fann. Shout out to Felicia,
Speaker 4: who I didn't even understand, was such a force because
Speaker 4: I'm a nineteen year old college student who knows nothing
Speaker 4: about the music industry for real, and she was like
Speaker 4: a force to be recommend. That's when I was able
Speaker 4: to be like, I can name the people that I
Speaker 4: started working with. That was amazing because she was working
Speaker 4: with Jason Derulo. She was working with all the Ovo
Speaker 4: camp because they had the distribution deal we had MMG
Speaker 4: right is that yeah? MMG is Rick Crosses, Yeah that
Speaker 4: we had that, So Meek and all them over there
Speaker 4: will at what I'm like, Andrew Day, Yes, and she
Speaker 4: put me on that project very closely. So I got
Speaker 4: to meet Andrew and like she really see and Andrew
Speaker 4: is the most talented, sweetest person in the world. Shout
Speaker 4: out to her. But I just and I've just seen
Speaker 4: her recently at the Beyonce premiere, which was amazing. But
Speaker 4: she was someone I got to like, really work on closely.
Speaker 4: Like I remember Fee was like, I don't care if
Speaker 4: you're an intern or not, go make a one sheet
Speaker 4: for this. And I'm like, what is a one sheet?
Speaker 4: And her assistant at the time was like girl look
Speaker 4: girl like and I was like, okay, cool, this is
Speaker 4: the challenge. This is what I wanted. I'm not getting coffee,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm over here making
Speaker 4: researching what is a one sheet? Looking at others, going
Speaker 4: to people who in the building that I was friends with,
Speaker 4: looking at theirs, put put it together and I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 4: send it off and she's like, you did a good job,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, cool, okay, you know, and then she's like,
Speaker 4: now let's talk about this Jason Derulo situation. And that
Speaker 4: was when that song wiggled. Do y'all remember what's snoop?
Speaker 4: We ran that whole campaign, and now it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: y'all need to sign in and y'all need to make
Speaker 4: a whole type of you know, fans situation activation get
Speaker 4: them excited. So now we're making this and me and
Speaker 4: my one friend Sophia and one of my really dear,
Speaker 4: dear friends. She's still in the music industry. She and
Speaker 4: me are over here trying to put this together because
Speaker 4: the A and R for Jason is her boss and
Speaker 4: she's an intern. So now we're doing the project together
Speaker 4: and we're learning at the same time how to do
Speaker 4: this and put this all together, and we're coming and
Speaker 4: presenting to them. They're like, you guys are doing great jobs.
Speaker 4: So it's like finally we were getting like this experience
Speaker 4: that you cannot get unless you do it. Like I
Speaker 4: can't teach you how to do it in a class
Speaker 4: because it's not a teachable thing.
Speaker 1: It's a go do it, go do it.
Speaker 4: And we were like okay, you know, and that after
Speaker 4: that it was just that like I stuck and we
Speaker 4: were getting it, and like there's moments of course where
Speaker 4: they came in and they helped us and taught us.
Speaker 4: But being able and I always say this internships and
Speaker 4: being able to to really learn from people who are
Speaker 4: doing it and if they let you be a part
Speaker 4: of it and don't keep you out of arms distance
Speaker 4: is where the no money could take you. Because that's
Speaker 4: something that I learned, and I learned be fearless, go
Speaker 4: in there and be like here here it is like
Speaker 4: I ask questions. If I can't get an answer, oh well,
Speaker 4: like just try and figure it out. And we did
Speaker 4: that and it was it was like the most rewarding
Speaker 4: experience because I felt like I learned every avenue of
Speaker 4: the record label side without having to be in everything
Speaker 4: because every as you guys know, every single department is
Speaker 4: dependent on one another. You can't do publicity without talking
Speaker 4: to the marketing person without talking to the anar person
Speaker 4: because of that, the song that's coming out or we
Speaker 4: did it so instead of us being in the back
Speaker 4: and just not really getting to know what we were doing,
Speaker 4: we were right next to them in these meetings. I'm
Speaker 4: writing the notes. Oh okay, so this is this is how,
Speaker 4: this is how you plan a timeline out for an
Speaker 4: album roll out.
Speaker 1: Hmm, this one did.
Speaker 4: And then from us, it's like, which one didn't do well?
Speaker 4: Which one did do well? I'm now going back on
Speaker 4: my notes. Why, oh we did this differently, We spent
Speaker 4: this more on this one we did, and all those
Speaker 4: things were factored. That information is priceless. And even knowing
Speaker 4: I was sitting in meetings with the CEOs and I
Speaker 4: didn't even know, you know, I was just sitting next
Speaker 4: to my boss taking her notes and everything, but learning
Speaker 4: and hearing and then even her speaking out and saying
Speaker 4: what she needs to say and making sure her she
Speaker 4: wasn't muted at all. Was important for me to see
Speaker 4: because we're usually told, y'all complain too much. Black women
Speaker 4: do this, y'all, y'all to bossy y'all. And it was
Speaker 4: none of that. It was being assertive. It was being
Speaker 4: this is how if y'all need me to do this job,
Speaker 4: I need this and I'm not budgeting because I'm not
Speaker 4: going to do the job half assed and y'all gonna
Speaker 4: blame me. So if y'all want me to do a
Speaker 4: B and C to get the results of A B
Speaker 4: and C, I need a B and C. And if
Speaker 4: y'all don't, then we got it. And that's all me.
Speaker 4: That's because you said no. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: because we ain't doing shit unless no. I was like,
Speaker 4: I highlighted that. I highlighted that, you know, and it
Speaker 4: it just everything organization, all that it mattered, and I
Speaker 4: was able, like to go to places it wasn't. I
Speaker 4: saw how other interns were doing it. I also was
Speaker 4: in another internship at the same company and got a
Speaker 4: completely different experience. So for me then now it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: don't come in the office today, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know. First off, my pockets was like, yes, where's
Speaker 4: the shoe. It's in Culver City, fifteen minutes beautiful, praise God,
Speaker 4: you know. And it's like, yeah, get there early, make
Speaker 4: sure Jason's there, We have a call with blah blah
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blahlaughter, make sure this person's there. Make
Speaker 4: sure this person's there, and then and that all these
Speaker 4: papers are printed out, and it was just like cool,
Speaker 4: So I did that and now I get to peek
Speaker 4: in and see rehearsal. Oh, okay, this is how it is.
Speaker 4: What's that?
Speaker 1: Who's that guy?
Speaker 4: And then you know, I became friends with other people
Speaker 4: in the camp. They're like, that's the music director. Oh,
Speaker 4: there's a music director. He's directing music. Isn't the music
Speaker 4: already made? Like people don't know what a music director is. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you talking about? The producer? And
Speaker 4: she's like no, girl, And I'm like she's like no.
Speaker 4: When you do live instruments and you do real like shows,
Speaker 4: you get somebody. You guys know what a music director is.
Speaker 1: But for people who don't.
Speaker 4: You get shows. When you get shows, you have the
Speaker 4: music directors come in and they make live renditions of
Speaker 4: your songs and there's the that's why you got those
Speaker 4: big moments where people are dancers and they have the
Speaker 4: big like boom boone moments and they're doing all that
Speaker 4: And I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a movie you just did. I saw
Speaker 1: him he was bump bump and it was like Peter
Speaker 1: and yeah.
Speaker 4: I was in my boy bag at that era. It
Speaker 4: was like boy band or like Jon. He was like
Speaker 4: a boy band by himself. He wasn't want band. He
Speaker 4: could do it all.
Speaker 3: I'm like, now you've be making like dessert and ship
Speaker 3: while he dancing and ship on the on the TikTok
Speaker 3: made a trade and out.
Speaker 1: That's great, gas station's great.
Speaker 4: Tapped into that.
Speaker 3: A billion dollars or something like that out to you, Jason,
Speaker 3: he's somewhere the nicest guy to nicest guy. But so okay,
Speaker 3: So you you learning everything all the ins and outs
Speaker 3: of the music business in your internship.
Speaker 1: How long were you a intern to.
Speaker 4: Two and a half or two years?
Speaker 1: So you put it in. Oh yeah, you got an education.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a full college education.
Speaker 4: And I was going there more than I was going
Speaker 4: to school still Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I made all
Speaker 4: my classes Tuesday and Thursday. The most hellish days were
Speaker 4: Tuesday and Thursday. From seven am. I graduated with a
Speaker 4: three point five GPS.
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Pops wasn't having would get this?
Speaker 4: Also, I had like grants and scholarships that if my
Speaker 4: had before, I would use it. So I had no choice.
Speaker 4: I would sleep in my roommate. Onere of my best friends, Talia,
Speaker 4: she's still we still live, she still live with me,
Speaker 4: and she would be like, girl, did you come home?
Speaker 4: And I was like no. She was like okay, because
Speaker 4: I was a communications major after I switched out of science,
Speaker 4: and it would be like twenty five page papers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it would be doing all that and then or
Speaker 4: doing all Warner stuff and then coming and just sitting
Speaker 4: there writing for hours.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, oh yeah, yeah, yes, you'd have loved
Speaker 1: this new technology back then.
Speaker 4: The way we talk about all my friends, we'd be
Speaker 4: like the way we could have.
Speaker 1: But they don't learn.
Speaker 3: And that's the difference, right, because they don't learn, and
Speaker 3: it's can we can we skip the steps? Absolutely, those
Speaker 3: steps can be skipped, but there is a different exercise
Speaker 3: to take in the stairs. True, you get on that elevator,
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna lose no weight on that elevator if
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know what the steps, No, bro,
Speaker 3: you gotta take the steps.
Speaker 1: Ai writes the paper and you read it. Ship, Let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go to let's go.
Speaker 3: This is We are songwriters here, and this is not
Speaker 3: to be taken lightly. Like I like to call us
Speaker 3: also magicians because we literally grab things out of nowhere
Speaker 3: and create what we hope to become magic. What to
Speaker 3: write a song is not easy and you know, it's
Speaker 3: not for the faint at heart because also it is
Speaker 3: subjective true one person may love it and twenty may
Speaker 3: hate it and it could still figure out a way
Speaker 3: to be a hit, or vice versa where twenty people
Speaker 3: love it, the one person hates it and then they
Speaker 3: don't help push the button and you never get to
Speaker 3: hear record right, Like, no, this is real, Like this
Speaker 3: songwriting thing man, and this music is man. I try
Speaker 3: to tell people all the time, like you really won't
Speaker 3: do this. We'll do this no matter how talented you are,
Speaker 3: no matter how any of these things are. A lot
Speaker 3: of ship has to align.
Speaker 4: What's on bosses wall just trained. Hard work beats talent
Speaker 4: that doesn't work. Yeah, that ship is so real, it's real,
Speaker 4: and talent beats work that doesn't like, you know, vice versa.
Speaker 4: So it's like if you are super talented but you're
Speaker 4: not working a lot of people, there's a lot of those.
Speaker 4: There's also a lot of people who work their asses
Speaker 4: off and they don't have that much talent. But guess
Speaker 4: what they in front, they're killing, they're killing, we're buying
Speaker 4: tickets to go see.
Speaker 1: It's just is what it is.
Speaker 3: So with you was thishere when you were back home
Speaker 3: and he was singing Orthodox Church.
Speaker 1: Viual choir. Were you writing songs then?
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, I have songs you bump too.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. No, I have.
Speaker 4: I'll never play it for you guys. But I had
Speaker 4: a song that I wrote with my cousin and my uncle,
Speaker 4: one of my uncles. I don't know if he's really
Speaker 4: my uncle, but you know how that goes. Yeah, he
Speaker 4: like my mom said my uncle. You know, you started
Speaker 4: asking a question. She's like, Mom, who's brother. She was like,
Speaker 4: he's your uncle and I was like, okay, but love
Speaker 4: him to death. He's amazing. He is actually an artist,
Speaker 4: but like a guitar player music is they have a
Speaker 4: whole side of just instrumental, like jazzy, like feel good music.
Speaker 4: And he was one of those guys who did really well.
Speaker 4: And so he had a studio in his house up
Speaker 4: the street from my house. So me and my cousin
Speaker 4: a couple of times be like, hey, can we use
Speaker 4: your studio? And he's like, yeah, come on, I didn't
Speaker 4: even know, Like that's so crazy to think about that.
Speaker 4: We were really fourteen and fifteen in his studio talking
Speaker 4: about can you turn me down a little bit. I
Speaker 4: don't even know what.
Speaker 1: Somebody said it before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I have one ear off. He was like,
Speaker 4: why is one ear off? And I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know. He was like put it back, and I
Speaker 4: was like, you know, my cousin's rapping and I was singing,
Speaker 4: and like we were so excited to go show our
Speaker 4: parents after and like my mom was like all the
Speaker 4: aunts were like living it up and it was. It
Speaker 4: was just a time. So we did that a lot.
Speaker 4: So I was writing, but I didn't know it wasn't
Speaker 4: I should. I wish I don't know where it is.
Speaker 4: I wish I could go find it, but somebody got it.
Speaker 4: I think my cousin does still. But it was it
Speaker 4: was funny. It was we were in there writing because
Speaker 4: who's writing it for us?
Speaker 1: We were writing.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I was talking about.
Speaker 1: Was it serious to you or you were just having fun?
Speaker 4: You were just oh, I was done that serious.
Speaker 1: Her moment was coming.
Speaker 4: Bro it was serious in the fact, like if I'm if,
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's gonna hear this or not,
Speaker 4: but like I'm trying to make the best song I
Speaker 4: could make. Yeah, And like I used to also write poetry,
Speaker 4: which is literally the poetry is literally music without like instruments.
Speaker 4: So I think that's what helped me to poetry class
Speaker 4: in high school and like all that. So it was
Speaker 4: like therapeutic for me too to just write things out
Speaker 4: and like all that works. Oh, wordplay, that's cool, Like
Speaker 4: well somebody get that. Maybe they don't, but that's still cool,
Speaker 4: you know. Like so that's where I really At my
Speaker 4: uncle's house in Oakland Hills, we would write outside by
Speaker 4: his pool, just write on a piece of paper too.
Speaker 4: Wasn't no phone or nothing. We were writing, yeah, and
Speaker 4: I'd be like, song, what does that sound like? Okay,
Speaker 4: you wrap your part, okay, and I'm gonna come in
Speaker 4: right here. No, that doesn't work. It doesn't work like
Speaker 4: that was it was, and he was trying it too.
Speaker 4: So we were just going back and forth. And I mean,
Speaker 4: if we had those those pageant moms or like pageant
Speaker 4: type of parents who were like, I ain't got nothing
Speaker 4: else to lose, you gonna be it and grabbed us
Speaker 4: and took us, I don't know we would, you know,
Speaker 4: because we were we had that in us that we
Speaker 4: wanted to do that. But we also were very much
Speaker 4: like you need to finish school and do all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So so like a long this journey. As you're speaking
Speaker 1: on it, like we get to the song writing, but
Speaker 1: how do you because you're doing so many other things.
Speaker 1: You're role managing, you're managing and your intern and so
Speaker 1: who says or who's like you're right? And then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, and then it's like.
Speaker 4: I was not saying anything.
Speaker 1: I was just in the studio.
Speaker 4: And then it was like when you're playing the song
Speaker 4: and you're in there and you're singing something for me
Speaker 4: to be like, hey, you can we mark that one?
Speaker 1: That's it?
Speaker 4: That's the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't lose that tape because you're you know, you
Speaker 1: know too.
Speaker 4: You guys are in there spinning out melodies and spinning
Speaker 4: out things that you're like, I could do a better one.
Speaker 4: I could do a better one. No, we're out here
Speaker 4: hearing it.
Speaker 1: You got it.
Speaker 4: That's the one. Let her do it though, or let
Speaker 4: him do it though. Let them continue, But that one
Speaker 4: right there special, My hair's my hair stood up? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Okay, cool, retake that part again.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, do it this way? That one, the one
Speaker 4: you did it like that when you weren't thinking about
Speaker 4: that's a form of being useful. But it's also that
Speaker 4: ears no, like that's a hard thing to know too
Speaker 4: and to be right, because someone can say that and
Speaker 4: then you'd be like, this ship is crash.
Speaker 3: I stay looking at nigga sideways, like first we didn't
Speaker 3: ask you hysterical, Let's start there.
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, though, wo.
Speaker 1: Man is blurring out.
Speaker 3: But no, to have to have good taste and to
Speaker 3: end timing and time and you know, because you may
Speaker 3: be called upon for something that you might might be ready,
Speaker 3: you don't get it. You can't help you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, And that like you said it, it's team effort.
Speaker 3: It's team effort.
Speaker 1: More than one person benefits off of the hit.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a that's been a at times
Speaker 3: tough part for people to deal with with when they
Speaker 3: talk about certain artists right where they're like this artist
Speaker 3: ain't that good, or this artist is trash, or what
Speaker 3: they own is blop up up up up, and people
Speaker 3: don't realize all of.
Speaker 1: The extended people who benefit.
Speaker 3: Yep, when that's certain artists from from the hood that
Speaker 3: fresh out of the pin or fresh out of wherever,
Speaker 3: catches that hit record and now has figured out.
Speaker 1: A way to make a way for four or five people.
Speaker 3: Connected to them to eat sometime to become millionaires, which
Speaker 3: can ultimately lead to someone else. And it's a trickle
Speaker 3: up effect more so than it's a trickle down effect,
Speaker 3: you know, where as far as the success is concerned.
Speaker 3: And to me, that is that's something that I always
Speaker 3: look at, even when I'm just looking at you know,
Speaker 3: the type of music.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't like everything.
Speaker 3: We none of us do, none of us like everything,
Speaker 3: but we have to we have to look at what
Speaker 3: these songs do for families, for friends. You're giving an
Speaker 3: extra word here and there or a line or this
Speaker 3: and that and helping to become a hit record. And
Speaker 3: now it's like, okay, well you know, now that's your platinum,
Speaker 3: double platinum. So at first she was making five granted
Speaker 3: show or ten granted show. Now you're making a hundred.
Speaker 3: Now you're making two fifty.
Speaker 4: And for some people that takes decades. Some people never happened,
Speaker 4: never happens. Some people what happens in a year takes time.
Speaker 1: Takes time.
Speaker 4: And think if you stopped whoa who would have thought,
Speaker 4: you know. But that's the reason why I'm so adamant now,
Speaker 4: especially what you said, the trickle up effect, because like
Speaker 4: I said, Ethiopia was somebody who was monumental for me
Speaker 4: to be in this position because I was like, there's
Speaker 4: not many of us to look up too. But if
Speaker 4: I can be a change in that, and I can
Speaker 4: hire black women or women in general, and I can
Speaker 4: have my kids kids. I don't having kids, but when
Speaker 4: I do and somebody else's and your kids kids and
Speaker 4: your kids to look up and be like, there's a
Speaker 4: brown girl who does that, who looks like me, I
Speaker 4: can do it too. We don't know because even right now,
Speaker 4: besides the big names and managers, there's no women big
Speaker 4: name that's as big as any of these, like Scooter
Speaker 4: Brons in them. There's just not that's not as famous
Speaker 4: or known. You know, there's nothing that like a little
Speaker 4: kid who doesn't know much is going to be like
Speaker 4: there are women managers and especially black women. You have
Speaker 4: to do your research and you want to be in
Speaker 4: that field. But for us to know that I can
Speaker 4: help with the trickle up and be a part of
Speaker 4: a general there's so many women who are doing the
Speaker 4: Ebony Ward. She's one of them. Like Heather Lowry, she
Speaker 4: has the femin Forward program that I've been a part
Speaker 4: of for two years now that I love and like
Speaker 4: my mentee named Shi, She's one of the most amazing
Speaker 4: women that I've ever met. Kind just like I would
Speaker 4: want her to be a part of my team. I
Speaker 4: don't know for whatever she could be. Whatever manager, you
Speaker 4: could be, a tour manager, you could be. I just
Speaker 4: want you around me because I felt protected with her,
Speaker 4: I felt seen with her. So for me to know
Speaker 4: that I can help her be in this space and
Speaker 4: then she can go help four more girls and then
Speaker 4: it now grows and grows and grows. That's the reason
Speaker 4: why I'm in this shit. That's the reason why I'm like, Damn,
Speaker 4: some days it's hard, some days it's really hard, but
Speaker 4: I'm like, just keep like, remember what we're doing this for. Like,
Speaker 4: there's not many girls, especially who look like me or
Speaker 4: any of us who are out here doing what we're
Speaker 4: doing that represent for a group that really can do
Speaker 4: it well too and killing it. But where's the representation.
Speaker 4: Where's someone who's like rallying us on so that these
Speaker 4: little girls can feel like they're empowered and do it too,
Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna lie to you. When I was
Speaker 4: door dashing, I was like, yo, I might have to
Speaker 4: not being music. I don't know, Like this is tough.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it, but it's tough, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And how many other people can you look
Speaker 4: and I can count on my hand, but the women
Speaker 4: who do and who have empowered and like all of
Speaker 4: the women who are doing a great job is something
Speaker 4: to really applaud and be like, we're making a change.
Speaker 4: And I hope there's at least one or two girls
Speaker 4: who can be like I want to be like her
Speaker 4: and I can do it because she did it. Because
Speaker 4: that's all. That's a feat. That is a feat that
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to sleep and be happy about,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: And that's why it's so important or what's so important
Speaker 3: for you to be here, because we wanted to give
Speaker 3: you this platform, you know, to tell your story, to
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, being a young girl in this
Speaker 3: thing initially starting off and becoming a powerful woman and
Speaker 3: the steps that you took and the people that inspired
Speaker 3: you in the bumps and bruises of it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I've known you for a while,
Speaker 3: didn't know.
Speaker 1: You were door dashing.
Speaker 3: Oh you know what I'm saying, like I hit like,
Speaker 3: you know, we just but someone watching this who may
Speaker 3: be door dashing. Now, don't stop, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: keep going after your dream, keep pushing like there are
Speaker 3: people who have been in your shoes.
Speaker 4: That you're looking up to and thinking that got it. No,
Speaker 4: we worked, We could have stopped, you know, but it's
Speaker 4: really just staying true and true to it and true
Speaker 4: to yourself is another one killing it? Yeah, with Ali
Speaker 4: killing it like yeah, yeah, there's there's there's I'm so
Speaker 4: I'm so happy that I can even start to name
Speaker 4: off people like this because I remember when I first
Speaker 4: saw I was like how many how many people are there?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like in this that are women, especially from the from
Speaker 3: the management stage our side, you know, like people don't
Speaker 3: realize that Ethiopia was a manager exactly, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. And she was part of the management team
Speaker 3: for Carrie, for Sierra, you know what I mean. Women
Speaker 3: like Lakeisha Orange, you know what I mean, who's a
Speaker 3: primary way.
Speaker 1: Like just.
Speaker 4: Shout them out. I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, like and for us as we've
Speaker 3: been in this business. Yeah, we've been in this business
Speaker 3: and seeing so many women do so many great things.
Speaker 3: And for us, listen, we're putting it out there. You
Speaker 3: are invited to come on this podcast like this is
Speaker 3: a this is a real thing, Like we want to
Speaker 3: have real discussions, like yes, are we going to have
Speaker 3: our artists?
Speaker 1: For sure, We're going to have artists. We're going to
Speaker 1: have producers, writers, managers, publicists, stylists, stylist you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Like we are serious about people learning that it takes
Speaker 3: more than just the front people to keep this thing going.
Speaker 3: We don't have this podcast without Jacob Ruben Bowl, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, we don't we don't have
Speaker 3: this thing without our team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, so we understand that and and and we're not
Speaker 1: in the place we're at without an Ethiopia. People don't
Speaker 1: know how.
Speaker 2: Much our Juliet Jones, our Joy Brown, our Grace Janes,
Speaker 2: like these are people who have played.
Speaker 3: A very important part of our careers, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like who really helped us, who really guided us,
Speaker 3: and you know, have been very important to us.
Speaker 1: So you know, from from from all of that.
Speaker 3: You're the beginning of that for us of coming on
Speaker 3: to the shelter and having this conversation because sometimes, and
Speaker 3: let's be honest, the women of the industry aren't as
Speaker 3: open to having these conversations on these type of public forums.
Speaker 4: And I get why, well, yeah, I mean I get why.
Speaker 1: You know, they're there's you know, there are people who
Speaker 1: don't want y'all to talk y'all. Ship. We want you
Speaker 1: all to talk y'all, all of it, heavy, all of it.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, come on tap with the plumber,
Speaker 1: motist la Zulu lawyers. You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is a real thing that
Speaker 3: we really appreciate the women in this industry and it's
Speaker 3: and it's so many of y'all that listen as y'all
Speaker 3: come to my head, I will say it, but I'm
Speaker 3: sorry if I'm forgetting absolutely.
Speaker 1: Like this, this this thing, man is powered.
Speaker 3: By black women the backbone of it and pushing us
Speaker 3: to it and helping us with it. And we want
Speaker 3: to be that platform for y'all, and we want to
Speaker 3: include y'all because a lot of time people be like, oh,
Speaker 3: y'all be having too many y'all don't have enough women
Speaker 3: on the show.
Speaker 1: We invite all the women. They gotta want to come.
Speaker 4: You know, it's to give back.
Speaker 1: So she got over there, champ, so you're starting up.
Speaker 4: There, Oh gosh, beautiful. Why asked my dad for pianis
Speaker 4: he's taunting me? Please taka as raight you talk to
Speaker 4: me because you know I can't do that and I
Speaker 4: wanted to.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't let them in the house. Lydia work with
Speaker 1: some great people. You are great within your own right.
Speaker 1: But all the sounds you've heard songs and artist you've
Speaker 1: artist you've seen who's your Oh god, top five, you're
Speaker 1: top five? Mm hmm, top five?
Speaker 4: You better your top five?
Speaker 2: R and B.
Speaker 1: Anything all let me song? Wow? We all then know
Speaker 1: you got the soul we got to know. We are
Speaker 1: tell us your.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're.
Speaker 1: He's going on.
Speaker 4: So extra, so extra, just so extra.
Speaker 1: Sounds so good, don't you.
Speaker 4: I wish?
Speaker 1: Lydia. Yeah, you're excluding five, excluding no R and B singers,
Speaker 1: exclude no one. You can't know. You gotta tell the truth,
Speaker 1: Tell the truth. It was your face and.
Speaker 4: Singers Top five like vocal five R B.
Speaker 1: What else they're gonna do?
Speaker 4: So just their voice.
Speaker 1: They're gonna rap better sang, No, who sing that song?
Speaker 1: Who's singing?
Speaker 4: Okay, well number one, no particular order, but number one
Speaker 4: for sure Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: The voice, Yeah, I mean is a the in front
Speaker 1: of that the.
Speaker 4: Like I told you, I was watching her when I
Speaker 4: didn't even talk. Jasmine, Yeah, where you're going, Okay, I
Speaker 4: have to ship it's, you know, real singing.
Speaker 1: If those two you know sang yeah, you know real thing.
Speaker 4: Brandy, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1: You have to.
Speaker 4: So those for sure. I don't care what people say.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it because I've heard her sing with my
Speaker 4: own ears. Beyonce, what do you talk people like?
Speaker 1: People? What do you do with these people? With these
Speaker 1: these who are these stupid listen? I wouldn't let them
Speaker 1: in my house. They can come in, damn Mine.
Speaker 3: She's a popping singer, period, is one of the most popping,
Speaker 3: the greatest of all, greatest.
Speaker 4: Okay, want to time, and I'm just going to keep
Speaker 4: it old school because that's how Mariah.
Speaker 1: Yeah season yeah, oh my god, Mariah Christian.
Speaker 4: Those are my top five for sure. Those are also
Speaker 4: besides Jasmine because we're kind of closer in age, who
Speaker 4: I literally grew up on listening with me Brandy, Brandy
Speaker 4: is Brandy is the book of libs and choices. Like
Speaker 4: people are, oh, she's so no her choices people.
Speaker 1: Don't just placement. Yeah, it's just just a session. They
Speaker 1: hit that note right there, right in the transition to
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, she's a technician.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's surgical.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but even and me like, same way, her
Speaker 4: choice is surgical. And then you have Mariah Worre's like
Speaker 4: this feeling too.
Speaker 1: Mariah was able to dance into in this in this
Speaker 1: belt whisper space that only Ariana Grande has been able to.
Speaker 1: Yeah to mimic.
Speaker 4: I definitely kept it to my back in the days
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to have to even deal with
Speaker 4: all that because there's so many more.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's so many aliens.
Speaker 4: Now, especially in our generation. But I just kept it
Speaker 4: to what I grew up on for the most or
Speaker 4: I just had to throw Jasmine because Jasmine takes me
Speaker 4: to church, just just.
Speaker 1: Just shouting for fantasia, Lord Jesus, that's what it is. Fantastic,
Speaker 1: that's that's what that's what you say after fantastic didn't
Speaker 1: say whatever your Jesus.
Speaker 4: Woman in music event, I mean women in entertainment or Hollywood.
Speaker 4: She she was getting an award and she went up
Speaker 4: there and she just said, Glory be to Jesus, but
Speaker 4: started singing him. When I tell you she got it, everyone,
Speaker 4: it was like tear eyed.
Speaker 1: You start showing, you start showing. She got something different.
Speaker 1: We she's anointed, anointed.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's my top five singers. And I've been
Speaker 4: here before. So I feel like you're gonna say, what
Speaker 4: is it the superhero super you speak?
Speaker 1: Sorry, we're managing right now on the camera. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: manage it right now. Too fast. You're trying to manage something,
Speaker 1: all right, My bad drives. This is the R and
Speaker 1: B post, your top five R and B songs. Missed
Speaker 1: that on the sip.
Speaker 4: He didn't give me a sheep.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably in your email. Your email, you said you've
Speaker 1: been here.
Speaker 4: You you put a manager's little up on me.
Speaker 1: You see what he did. You said, you said, you said, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: guys to be girlfriend, not pandemonium. No, gossip is one
Speaker 1: of my favorites.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Wow, dangerously in love.
Speaker 1: Mmm, way to kick it off.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I was looking a little shakey.
Speaker 1: No, no for that. We're gonna give you an edit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna edit it. It don't look like you take
Speaker 1: so long. I'm lying, you know, I'm lying.
Speaker 4: In love with another man.
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: Women don't make songs like that all the time. Mm
Speaker 3: hmcause that's a very true thing. They be thinking that
Speaker 3: niggas only feel that way.
Speaker 1: It's not the truth.
Speaker 3: This is just me.
Speaker 4: I don't know why, but Angel in Disguise was something
Speaker 4: that really do you guys remember that one.
Speaker 1: Don't do this, don't ever ever Angel Disguise with Joe
Speaker 1: on the backgrounds when you ever, don't play.
Speaker 4: Next song for me superstar m h.
Speaker 1: Mmmm. Very love, very love that record, fair record, love
Speaker 1: that record.
Speaker 4: And I actually I take back Angel the Disguised because
Speaker 4: that was a great one.
Speaker 1: You started this whole debate, I know, and now you
Speaker 1: about to take the song back.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because that song is still great.
Speaker 1: Full Moon, that's your one.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, full Moon is one of my favorite
Speaker 4: songs of all time, Mike City City all time? I
Speaker 4: think is that how many is that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: You took one back, but I mean you can still
Speaker 3: keep Andrew Disguise in if you would like to, and
Speaker 3: Full More because they're both amazing.
Speaker 4: Every one more just just we can get It's gonna
Speaker 4: sound like I'm saying this because I'm on this podcast,
Speaker 4: but that song actually took me. I couldn't stop playing
Speaker 4: it to the point my mom knows every word.
Speaker 1: When your mom knows every word, and I.
Speaker 4: Just saw it because it's right in front of my face.
Speaker 1: That was my screen tour. Come on, Mama and aunties.
Speaker 1: He was out of control.
Speaker 4: Say take it down to because that was really That
Speaker 4: was a song that really did. But yeah, you were
Speaker 4: you're very much.
Speaker 1: That was one. You're R and B voltron. You're a
Speaker 1: super R and B artist. Who you're getting the vocal from,
Speaker 1: who you're getting the performance style from, who you're getting
Speaker 1: the styling from, and who are you getting the passion
Speaker 1: of the artists? Okay, let's start with the vocal.
Speaker 4: Who's a vocal U for that, I'm gonna choose Beyonce's voice.
Speaker 1: She's like a Beyonce's voice. I'm choosing.
Speaker 4: I'm choosing Whitneys. I'm choosing Whitney's. I'm choosing. I'm choosing
Speaker 4: whitneys I'm choosing Whitneyes because Whitney is like a mixture
Speaker 4: of mouth. Yeah, she can get so ful and she
Speaker 4: can also she could do both. Okay, sweet, it's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 4: It's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: It's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 4: It's Whitney Houston. I don't know why I even on that.
Speaker 1: I thought, that's who you're going to pick. Whitney performance
Speaker 1: style on stage. Wow, Yeah, I like it. Yes, I argue,
Speaker 1: nobody's beating her on stage.
Speaker 4: That's what That's why I was like, I can use
Speaker 4: her for something else, like what you're doing Whitney Whitney, Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Styling Rihanna. Oh you you just out of control? Ye wor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, manager.
Speaker 1: Like it. I like it. The face when you know
Speaker 1: you're cooking. The passion of the artists Janet mm hmm,
Speaker 1: she sweated out.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: You're gonna feel every emotion.
Speaker 1: She sweated out. I seem to do it to this day,
Speaker 1: to this day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's made men just fall over. The passion is
Speaker 4: her eyes when she's staring at Woo, like should I
Speaker 4: look away?
Speaker 1: You're looking at who are you looking at? Right? Well, Lydia,
Speaker 1: your family, Yeah, we are beyond proud. We got your back. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: The support is through the roof.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need us for it is. It is done.
Speaker 1: That being said, thank you for coming. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: I feel like we went way past.
Speaker 1: It's just information.
Speaker 4: It was just we started before we even started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we was already gone. It's another forty minutes, but
Speaker 1: it's just you know, this information, like we said, it's
Speaker 1: just needed. Yeah, it's needed, these stories and these examples. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't you know, it doesn't stop here, No,
Speaker 1: it starts here.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 1: And then there there will be thirty forty more lydias
Speaker 1: because hundreds because of this, I.
Speaker 4: Hope so, and we'll all be here rolling them on.
Speaker 1: Believe believe it. Batteries for everybody for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you guy for having me
Speaker 4: come on, man, I appreciate you.
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