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Speaker 1: R and B money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take valoti. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank

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Speaker 1: and this is the Army Money podcorst the authority on

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Speaker 1: all things R and B. Uh. Today we're getting down

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Speaker 1: the business, standing on it. What we're doing. We're standing

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Speaker 1: on business today. Take a special breed. You had to

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Speaker 1: have been in this ship a long motherfucker time, a

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Speaker 1: lengthy tenure early early, the amounts of experience to be

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Speaker 1: this type of individual, to be this kind of a person,

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Speaker 1: to have this type.

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Speaker 3: Of represented to write it and all right, huh.

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Speaker 1: So many things come in the form of lead. The

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Speaker 1: many dialects.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you are low key look Ethiopian. And people have

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Speaker 4: asked me in my community if you're Ethiopian because they

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Speaker 4: know I know you really, They're like, he's off shot.

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Speaker 1: I should do it. I should should I should do

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Speaker 1: I should do it? Twenty three and meter you should

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Speaker 1: and see what's going on.

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Speaker 4: I could see it.

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Speaker 1: You might find out.

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Speaker 3: So she's your one, know man, That's that's why I

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Speaker 3: always look at you.

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Speaker 4: Where you find out some ship.

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Speaker 1: To do, Let's just see what happens. I can get

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Speaker 1: a dolphin by something. You know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 4: I know there are, but you do look it?

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Speaker 1: Okay, what what is? What is? What is the look?

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Speaker 1: What is? What is? What am I giving?

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Speaker 4: What you're giving is it's the proportions of our face.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have I know, you

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Speaker 4: know because you from the bad You've seen a lot

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Speaker 4: of Ethiopians in all East Africans, but we have a

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Speaker 4: I think we just have a distinctive look, like eyes

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Speaker 4: it's mostly right here, but yours kind of looks like

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Speaker 4: like you look like a couple of my cousins.

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Speaker 3: Give you a name because the rail doesn't sound.

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Speaker 4: Very well yeah, I know, but the rails, I mean

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Speaker 4: that's what your mom picked or your dad.

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Speaker 1: Sole Ethiopian.

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Speaker 4: You do. It would be like ted Ross. Ted Ross.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it wasn't that the Weekends name and it was

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Speaker 4: But like the number one Ethiopian singers name is Teddy.

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Speaker 1: Opro Teddy He's huge.

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Speaker 4: Put his song at the end of her concert when

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Speaker 4: she went to Ethiopia, and it went it was for

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Speaker 4: our New Year's and she like played it after she

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Speaker 4: They said it was shaking the stadium.

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Speaker 1: Ship nuts. I was there to be always tapping in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was twenty eleven. Friend.

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Speaker 1: We always find ourselves in cool room, whether it be

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Speaker 4: We always are, We always are outside in some capacity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think, you know, I think it's just

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Speaker 1: very very very vital and important to have this conversation,

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Speaker 4: Woman in general and woman period, and then a woman

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get it thirty thirty.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying so funny.

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Speaker 1: I ain't, I ain't, I ain't been listen God is good.

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Speaker 1: I Yeah, yeah, I had a four focus. You had

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Speaker 4: You know, I was in the Camra that was my

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Speaker 1: I literally had a four Folk. I was pulling up

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Speaker 3: Really oh yeah, driving from Corona, had so many jokes.

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Speaker 3: At least the gas was good because he had already

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know what I mean, It's just business.

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Speaker 1: Now I had a house.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you were doing it the right way because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't doing it. I was on fumes. I was.

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Speaker 1: Eventually somebody came and got it, as if the house

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Speaker 1: Here's what's crazy, as as I'm losing the house. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Price, not praying on your downfall.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely wow, wow, played well.

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Speaker 4: They got the commission and they got it back.

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Speaker 1: The kind of bought it with his money.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't be mad because I needed it off my books.

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Speaker 1: Please please take this motherfucker. I'm doing bad. That was divorced.

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Speaker 1: Just a tough time. Anyway, back to you, Okay, what.

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Speaker 4: A great space you're in now, shout out to you.

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Speaker 4: God is good. Right, Oh, let's start sermoning.

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Speaker 1: You. Just don't stop working. That's true, That's really all

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Speaker 4: That really is what it is though. Yeah, that's like

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Speaker 1: Because downfall, I mean not downfalls, but knockdowns are inevitable.

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Speaker 1: It's life in any fight, it's inevitable. What are you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, until i'm up again.

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Speaker 1: I'm going, I promise you, you're gonna think I'm still

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Speaker 1: When I was waiting outside them clubs, waiting for Jamie

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Speaker 1: I'm just waiting on Jamie because you know, he got

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Speaker 1: So i'mna I'm gonna come in he come in, his

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Speaker 4: And that's that's when it's full circle.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that is then just that's the entertainment industry

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Speaker 4: And it's like and it feels that that that is

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Speaker 4: what low key makes all this stuff, Like Okay, I

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Speaker 4: could do it again, Yeah you can do it again.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do right there? When the

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Speaker 4: Most people would just go under the couch, and.

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Speaker 1: I still had to get in there, you go, I

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Speaker 1: How far are you Jamie?

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Speaker 4: Yep?

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Speaker 1: We about forty minutes A were finishing up. If okay,

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Speaker 1: I was going.

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Speaker 4: Playing out the time right? Better time? Why did you

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Speaker 1: That's your fault because Jamie is always late.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, the thirst was real clear, j you chasing

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Speaker 4: I would have just went to where there was eating.

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Speaker 1: No, there's a chance that I would have missed him

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Speaker 1: right listen, because he comes. Because Jamie is one of

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Speaker 4: Him, it's over. Well, no, that's everyone, good luck, that's

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Speaker 4: not everyone. That's mostly everyone.

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Speaker 1: Mostly if we go to the door and get I know, y'all, I.

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Speaker 4: Know y'all, y'all do I remember when we were in Vegas

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Speaker 4: so training Wars last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going for my people not getting in.

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Speaker 4: That's true. But if it's live on a Sunday night,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to get you.

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Speaker 1: You will.

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Speaker 3: We're going to go find Mike. You guys, Mike, I

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Speaker 4: Come on, you guys will.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you know the industry. The industry won't.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you know you know we in here and bro,

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Speaker 1: there was no.

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Speaker 1: I said that I'll be out to get you. Hey,

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Speaker 4: That's the way I'm talking to him. Yeah, we together?

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Speaker 1: Are we coming? Lydia? You guys, let's go back to

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, why not we have time we do.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the bay, Let's go to.

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Speaker 4: Where we reside.

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Speaker 1: Give me the bay, give me the early beginnings of

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Speaker 1: you finding your way into this okay? And why so?

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Speaker 4: I am Ethiopian clearly, and I always just since I

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Speaker 4: I don't remember a time where I didn't love music.

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Speaker 4: So I was like, cool, bet in my head, I'm

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Speaker 4: I can kind of singing, Okay. So then I got

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Speaker 1: Oh, y'all had a little money amen.

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Speaker 4: We were blessed. My father came from me the opia

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Speaker 4: and so he was like, oh, yeah, you're going to

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Speaker 4: the two, especially in the African household. Doctor lawyer. Now

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Speaker 4: they've thrown an engineer in there. I heard.

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Speaker 1: I heard.

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Speaker 4: Engineers now a thing, which was cool. That's there wasn't

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Speaker 4: was always being picked to sing at these and do

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Speaker 4: So we were going to church every Sunday to the

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Speaker 1: When you go home. You got her, another one got me.

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Speaker 1: Hate it.

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Speaker 4: It was that the whole time, and then until I

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Speaker 4: It was just people who looked like me. And I

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Speaker 4: He was like, I'm gonna put you in a in

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Speaker 3: He didn't want to see him from from Bishop down

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Speaker 4: was over. My dad was like, okay, it's she's gonna

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Speaker 1: Well, now he knows, and I know what she wants

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about. It was I think

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Speaker 4: It was like you need to come to LA and

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Speaker 1: Pretty sure that's what that was.

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Speaker 3: I think it was because maybe what fifteen sixteen years

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thirty one now, so it was like I

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Speaker 4: And mom was like, shit, I don't know what's wanted

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Speaker 4: it was like you have to you have to send

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Speaker 4: I don't know. You want to own now? And I'm like, girl,

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Speaker 4: what you mean, Like what how are we going? She

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Speaker 4: I declined, Wow, yeah again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you cried again.

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Speaker 4: I was so hurt because I was like he just

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Speaker 4: didn't even know exactly, Like I didn't know if I

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Speaker 4: want to be a songwriter. I don't know if I

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Speaker 4: wanted to be in front of it. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I wanted to be a manager. I didn't know

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Speaker 4: if I I always loved A and R though, like

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Speaker 4: picking and hearing different things and putting a song together,

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Speaker 4: I don't know? And I was like, but you just

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Speaker 4: he don't know, you know, but anyways, you know, like

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Speaker 4: I knew later too, when I went to college.

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Speaker 1: He was just trying to protect me, you know, in

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Speaker 1: I'm not letting my daughter go through that and not

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Speaker 4: And then I can't even do You're not in the

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Speaker 4: you're not doing it. You're not doing it. So our

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Speaker 4: compromise was I'll give you piano lessons, and I was like, okay, man,

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Speaker 4: that's that's.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna help the crab.

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Speaker 4: No, I never got the piano lessons. He got okay

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Speaker 4: because he was like, you find the person. Every person

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Speaker 4: I find, he'd be like, I don't want them in

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Speaker 1: Possible. Wow, I like what you're doing.

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Speaker 4: And no games, it's just like I feel you. I

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Speaker 4: feel you. You know, you're just trying to protect me. Doctor, lawyer, lawyer.

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Speaker 4: And my sister is like the smartest person I know,

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Speaker 4: she went to Stanford. She picked Stanford when Stanford is dead? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: she picked do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, and what cow did you go to?

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Speaker 4: I went toll you okay, I went to Loyhill, mamou.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I knew. I was like cool. So if you're

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Speaker 4: I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I knew it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even care what school I got into. I

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Speaker 4: I'm out, And I went with my cousin's fake ID.

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Speaker 4: So the first as soon as I stepped there, I

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Speaker 4: Brandon Moore, do you know be more YG's manager as

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Speaker 4: a I think I was like nineteen and he was so.

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Speaker 4: He was somebody who was like, so, like you want

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Speaker 4: to be in this okay? Cool? Like I was trying.

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Speaker 4: I saw the clubs as a networking place. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I'm going in there. I don't even drink, so I'm

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Speaker 4: But now I get to talk to you, and you're

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Speaker 4: not going to be like, who's this person? So I

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Speaker 3: You know, they give you more information, sometimes information you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, use it.

440
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: It's sober as sober as hell. So I I yeah,

441
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 4: I finished out high school. I had a great I

442
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: had such a great time in the Bay. But also

443
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: the Bay is such a melting pot of music, Like

444
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 4: people were going dumb and the high food movement was

445
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 4: a thing. Mac dre keep the Sneak, like all of

446
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 4: these all of these men. It was mostly men. But

447
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 4: also shout out to Keisha because Keisha Cole was doing

448
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 4: her thing, and there was there was there was other

449
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 4: women who were doing things for Oakland too. But it

450
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 4: was such a melting pot of like we're creating our

451
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 4: own culture. And I was like, this is so dope.

452
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 4: We have our own sound. How can we make it

453
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 4: even bigger? Like when you're from the Bay, I feel

454
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 4: like everyone knows like we repped the Bay, Like yeah,

455
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: we from Oakland, like or the Babe in general, but

456
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 4: like you rep it. So I came to La and

457
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm just I'm just this girl from

458
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: the Bay and I know music. They were like, okay,

459
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 4: what do you do?

460
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: It's like I got LMUT got it down.

461
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 4: There, and then it was such a like not black

462
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: school that it's like girl, and I'm like, I do.

463
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 4: But then I got my internship at Warner Brothers.

464
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: How do you get that? Though?

465
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 4: LMU shout out to LMU. They had a great They

466
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: had this online. You had to do the work. So

467
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 4: they had a whole system, a whole portal for like

468
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 4: internships and jobs, part time jobs while you're there. So

469
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 4: I worked a full time job, not full time, but

470
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 4: I worked a full time that you could do while

471
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 4: you were in school because I was a full time student.

472
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 4: And then I was like I need an internship. I

473
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: need to somehow because I worked on campus. And so

474
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 4: I was like, how do I do this? Because the

475
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: way that set it up is like there's this amount

476
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 4: of money that you could get if you work on campus,

477
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 4: but if you don't work on campus, they don't give

478
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 4: it to you, and now it's like harder for you

479
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: to do it. So I was like, okay, So I'm

480
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 4: scrolling through and one of my Actually, one of my

481
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 4: good friends, Chloe, hits me and she's like, girl, there's

482
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 4: this internship for Warner brother Records on here. And I

483
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 4: was like, where I've been looking. It was like one

484
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 4: hundred and fifty pages shit, and there'd be like one

485
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 4: hundred on each page and you and their words. They're

486
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 4: not pictures or anything, so it's like homework. You're like, no,

487
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: I don't want to be Deloitte. No, I'm not an engineer.

488
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: No.

489
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 4: And there was nothing to really like search through. You

490
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 4: just had to search through it yourself because you're it

491
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 4: was back in the day. So she was like here

492
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 4: and sends me the link. Fill it out. Literally the

493
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: next week I got a response, went there, did an interview.

494
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 4: They were like we're picking a few people, bl blah

495
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: blah blah, and I was like, oh my god, please

496
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: mind you. Lmu is in Westchester, Warner Brothers is in Burbank.

497
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That dry like he was interscoping. You had

498
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: to go right to you can go to.

499
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 4: Santa Monica hour and change, and I have no money.

500
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: I have no money, So I'm like, okay, that one

501
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: that one time was cute. I could afford it. They

502
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: called me They're like, we're picking you. You got it.

503
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: I remember exactly where I was. I was leaving the

504
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: Westfield Mall, fox Hills, Fox. I was leaving fox Hills.

505
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: That was our spot, left fox Hills. Got the call.

506
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 4: I was ecstatic, you're starting next week. It's like, okay, great,

507
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 4: this is amazing. And then I was like do you

508
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: get paid? They're like, you got college credit?

509
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: Girl?

510
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 4: I was like, because you know, they get paid now,

511
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: paid internships.

512
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: They paid intern you.

513
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: Can sue them if you don't get paid like a

514
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 4: full job.

515
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: It is different. Yes, it's different.

516
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: It's different now they get fully paid.

517
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: So you know what, Yes, it's better.

518
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: Now it's good and I'm happy for the kids, but

519
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: it was it was rough for us because I still

520
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 4: had to do my job. So now I'm in my

521
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: accounselor's office, like, how do I change my schedule around?

522
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: I moved all my classes to Tuesdays and Thursdays so

523
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 4: that I could go into WBR, which is Warner Brothers Monday.

524
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: Once it Friday.

525
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Wow, but well, how are you getting there driving?

526
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 4: You had a car though I had a car. I

527
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: had my little black camera called her Cocoa.

528
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: But you didn't have much money.

529
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: I didn't have no money. I didn't have no money

530
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: to the war where it was like my friends would

531
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: be like, it's my birthday, can you come to the paper.

532
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 4: My brother I was like, y'all all going pitching ten

533
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: dollars for this megabus for me to come back, because

534
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 4: if not, I don't know what to tell y'all. My

535
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: money is for my food and that's about it.

536
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 1: Food, That's it.

537
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 4: And even though yes, my parents.

538
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: Are living on campus, I was living on a camp.

539
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 4: They were paying helping me pay for my college. So

540
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: they were like, got it. Girl also was playing volleyball,

541
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: but like, no, you got it?

542
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh do you keep saying volleyball? You were playing volleyball?

543
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 4: I played volleyball. I was a little barro. You see

544
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 4: how you coming from me? I'm five to three.

545
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just listen. I know volleyball.

546
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: My daughter plays volleyball febro.

547
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying, like I was good. You gotta

548
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: be good. I was great to be five three and

549
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: playing college volleyball. You got to be exceptional.

550
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 4: Well that didn't last that long, right, I get it. Yeah,

551
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: but even it was like freshman year.

552
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: But even to make the team like to say, I

553
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: played volleyball like I've watched those girls. I've been to

554
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: the tryouts and I'm like this, Oh there's levels and

555
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: that's just in high school.

556
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 4: In high school, that's what I'm saying. I played two

557
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: teams like I was playing year round volleyball. That was

558
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 4: my but I loved it like club, so you know

559
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: their club. I played club. Club was more important than.

560
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely no the ever trying to get Zoey's club or

561
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: the thing that she was going to play in the Again,

562
00:28:52,880 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: the practices are likes west Lake area. The games are

563
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: in Orange County Riverside every weekend.

564
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, or even what my practices were in Pleasanton in

565
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 4: Dublin because he knows how far.

566
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: And that.

567
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 4: But my dad, Amen, but my dad every what time

568
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: your game's at seven and blah blah blah and aar

569
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: and half away, I'll car pull all the girls like

570
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: he was about that. He was about that at every game.

571
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: You did that wrong? He was you worried about this

572
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 4: too much? Like he did not play. My sister was

573
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 4: really good at soccer two.

574
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: Anything to get you off the bump she was chasing.

575
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: That was.

576
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: I went to that.

577
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: That was another thing we were there thick my cousins

578
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: there's like, you know, you see Kardashian. He's like, oh,

579
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: there's a lot of them. Our family. There's like twelve

580
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: first cousins and we're all girls and we're all the same,

581
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: like around the same age, and.

582
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: We used to do everything.

583
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: What so my uncle, I'm telling all his business. Sorry uncle,

584
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: he part he's in it. I'll just say he's part

585
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: or somehow into the parking and Oracle arena.

586
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: So he of course he is.

587
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 4: Of course he is.

588
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: You guys, you guys own all the parking around the world.

589
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: Yes, so he was. He was whenever we needed to

590
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: go to a show. What and he got us the

591
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: front row at the It was the Bow Wow and

592
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: Chris brown Win. Oh yeah, I'll never forget that. It

593
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: was the one where you remember when Chris was on

594
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 4: the thing and it like lifted y'all might not remember.

595
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: That was a core memory for me. It was on

596
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: It was like a thing that lifted up and he's

597
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: like hanging off and doing the dances on the hanging thing.

598
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: Y'all remember that.

599
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I had to see it.

600
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't think we felt take you down feel the

601
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: same way, probably not about it.

602
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, I'll take you down.

603
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 4: It was gonna take you down, me and my cousins.

604
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 4: Thank god my dad didn't go. He would have grabbed

605
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: all of us by our hair and took us out.

606
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 4: We were screaming like crazy.

607
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Front. It was theirs in the front. Yeah, my crew,

608
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: y'all whole show.

609
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: And we would have said right back because we need.

610
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 4: And it was our aunts. It was like our aunts

611
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: and our and my mom and all the and they

612
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 4: loved it. They were if they would have picked us

613
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 4: to go up, they would have let them because the

614
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: mom's be cool. It's the dads, the dad's. Like one

615
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: time I brought a man home and all the dads

616
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: lined up like this at a at a graduation party

617
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 4: to talk to him.

618
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: Who who is this nigga?

619
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 4: That's crazy?

620
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't my boyfriend. Listen, I can't wait for those days,

621
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: see y'all not. I can't wait. My daughter thinks it's

622
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: gonna be sweet. No, no, no.

623
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: He gonna he's gonna he gonna all right, No, you.

624
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 4: Too nice, you're nice thing. You're not gonna be mean, you.

625
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Know, I'm not, no, I mean. But when it's time

626
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: for his baby girl, we're gonna act up. Yeah, like

627
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: young man, you know this is like forty right, this

628
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: is what it is. They don't face paint on like

629
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna you know with this than I mean, listen, man, y'all,

630
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: that's not nice. We're not supposed to be nice.

631
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: My mom and all of them were crying in the back.

632
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: Though they think the ship is so funny, they were

633
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: tears were falling because I was like mom. He didn't

634
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: say word him in the car. He asked him, like,

635
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: how you doing? My dad just he looked forward. I

636
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 4: was like, Dad, he said, how are you doing? He's like, who.

637
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: Own business? Stand on it?

638
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: My little brother in the back, he's like, you're a

639
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: football player. What do you do?

640
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: He making it worse. Don't talk to him. He's invisible,

641
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: so you now, what do you do? What are you doing?

642
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: In Warner Brothers, I was in marketing the first the

643
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: first internship because you know, it's per semester. So my

644
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: first semester I was in marketing and it was like

645
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: my eyes were finally glued open because I never seen

646
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: in my head. I'm like, I'm gonna go in there.

647
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 4: They're gonna love me, and I'm gonna play them. Either's

648
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 4: some music I'm gonna happen to sing, or I'm gonna

649
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: do something. They're gonna give me everything, like a record deal,

650
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 4: or they're gonna give me a job as an A

651
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 4: and R or you know, like the most not happening

652
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 4: shit is what's gonna happen? And I get there and

653
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: it was like, can you go get us a coffee?

654
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, right right, can you go? Can

655
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 4: you can you research this? Can you put this in

656
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: some notes? Can you go print a hundred copies of

657
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: this for the can you take these notes in this?

658
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: In this meeting? I was like, oh, we do not

659
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 4: make it.

660
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: One are the projects that you remember, like off the

661
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: off the top, like that you got into as soon

662
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: as you got there, like that they may have had that.

663
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: You was like, oh, ship, okay, I get to somewhere.

664
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Notes for the first semester, no one nothing, no.

665
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: Because the man I was underneath shout out to you're cool.

666
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna say your name. But he was

667
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: just not my time. We were not connected musically.

668
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: You know, they just sounds like yeah, fuck you, you're cool.

669
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: You know he was cool. He just was like a

670
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 4: white boy who like rock music and stuff. And it's like,

671
00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: I'm I was listening to Brandy and Jill Scott and

672
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 4: Usher Like that wasn't I was like, what the who where?

673
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: So now me being you know, Magglin and husband, I

674
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: was like, who in this building do I need to

675
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 4: go under for the next semester? So now I start

676
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: meeting the people and no one black was on my

677
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: immediate team, so like I was like, where are the

678
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 4: black people at? Where are the people who look like

679
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: me at? And that's when I started researching too, just

680
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: in general, who's somebody that I really could look up to?

681
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 4: And that's when I learned all about Ethiopia. Wow, and

682
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 4: Ethiopia was like this force in my life. I've told

683
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: her this so she knows now, But I was like,

684
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 4: you were my mentor without being my mentor, because number one,

685
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 4: you are a woman in this space who's doing some

686
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 4: shit that none of us has seen a woman do. Right,

687
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: you are a black woman in the space doing some

688
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: shit no black woman has ever done. Or Sylvia Ron

689
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: and you you know what I mean, Like, there's there's

690
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: a few that I can name. I'm missing something, but

691
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 4: there's a few I can name, but an Ethiopian woman,

692
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: and your name's Ethiopia.

693
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you.

694
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: Walking in saying and that's why, that's why I've made

695
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 4: my Instagram. It was open because I wanted you to

696
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: know I'm Ethiopian and I'm doing this. There's not a

697
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: lot of us I speaking.

698
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: When you walk back there, when you walk back, was

699
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 1: like I know, she's like, she's like, it's her Instagram.

700
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I don't know.

701
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 4: I saw you followed me, took you long enough.

702
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that was your girl. Just kidding.

703
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: I know better. I did better.

704
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. You know. I'm playing with you. I

705
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 4: love tell her, Yeah, that's my girl. But that's why

706
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: I did that, because it was like I want I'm

707
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 4: so proud of my culture and I'm so proud to

708
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: just be where I'm from and to experience everything. And

709
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: I've been to fourteen times. Oh okay, so I'm tapped

710
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: in and I was like, yo, she's doing this. And

711
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 4: then I started reading. I was like, she's been doing

712
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 4: this since she was a kid. Because I was like,

713
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: I'm doing well. I'm in the record space place, record

714
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: label place as a teenager. Nah, you in there as

715
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 4: a college student girl. She was in there was she

716
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: barely in high school? Yeah, fourteen, And I was like, oh,

717
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: I'm late. I'm like, I'm super late. My dad, I

718
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 4: knew it, you know what I mean, triggered, triggered I

719
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 4: could have. I was right there. I don't blame him anymore.

720
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: I love it very much. But it was that because

721
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: I was like, I knew I wanted to, but for

722
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 4: her to be doing that, and then I just went

723
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 4: on a deep dive read everything about her, read every

724
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: move she made, and I was like, Wow, I cannot

725
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 4: wait to hopefully meet this woman because she has changed

726
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: my whole mental of this now. And I was like, Okay,

727
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: I need to go fine to people who look let

728
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: me around here. And I did, and I started interning

729
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: in publicity after that with Felicia Fann. Shout out to Felicia,

730
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: who I didn't even understand, was such a force because

731
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm a nineteen year old college student who knows nothing

732
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: about the music industry for real, and she was like

733
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 4: a force to be recommend. That's when I was able

734
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: to be like, I can name the people that I

735
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 4: started working with. That was amazing because she was working

736
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: with Jason Derulo. She was working with all the Ovo

737
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 4: camp because they had the distribution deal we had MMG

738
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: right is that yeah? MMG is Rick Crosses, Yeah that

739
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: we had that, So Meek and all them over there

740
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 4: will at what I'm like, Andrew Day, Yes, and she

741
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 4: put me on that project very closely. So I got

742
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: to meet Andrew and like she really see and Andrew

743
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: is the most talented, sweetest person in the world. Shout

744
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: out to her. But I just and I've just seen

745
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 4: her recently at the Beyonce premiere, which was amazing. But

746
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: she was someone I got to like, really work on closely.

747
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: Like I remember Fee was like, I don't care if

748
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 4: you're an intern or not, go make a one sheet

749
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 4: for this. And I'm like, what is a one sheet?

750
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 4: And her assistant at the time was like girl look

751
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 4: girl like and I was like, okay, cool, this is

752
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 4: the challenge. This is what I wanted. I'm not getting coffee,

753
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm over here making

754
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 4: researching what is a one sheet? Looking at others, going

755
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: to people who in the building that I was friends with,

756
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: looking at theirs, put put it together and I'm like, okay, cool,

757
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: send it off and she's like, you did a good job,

758
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 4: and I'm like, cool, okay, you know, and then she's like,

759
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: now let's talk about this Jason Derulo situation. And that

760
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 4: was when that song wiggled. Do y'all remember what's snoop?

761
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: We ran that whole campaign, and now it's like, okay,

762
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 4: y'all need to sign in and y'all need to make

763
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: a whole type of you know, fans situation activation get

764
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: them excited. So now we're making this and me and

765
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: my one friend Sophia and one of my really dear,

766
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: dear friends. She's still in the music industry. She and

767
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: me are over here trying to put this together because

768
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 4: the A and R for Jason is her boss and

769
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 4: she's an intern. So now we're doing the project together

770
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: and we're learning at the same time how to do

771
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: this and put this all together, and we're coming and

772
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 4: presenting to them. They're like, you guys are doing great jobs.

773
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 4: So it's like finally we were getting like this experience

774
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 4: that you cannot get unless you do it. Like I

775
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: can't teach you how to do it in a class

776
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: because it's not a teachable thing.

777
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: It's a go do it, go do it.

778
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 4: And we were like okay, you know, and that after

779
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 4: that it was just that like I stuck and we

780
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 4: were getting it, and like there's moments of course where

781
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 4: they came in and they helped us and taught us.

782
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 4: But being able and I always say this internships and

783
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: being able to to really learn from people who are

784
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: doing it and if they let you be a part

785
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 4: of it and don't keep you out of arms distance

786
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 4: is where the no money could take you. Because that's

787
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: something that I learned, and I learned be fearless, go

788
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: in there and be like here here it is like

789
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 4: I ask questions. If I can't get an answer, oh well,

790
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: like just try and figure it out. And we did

791
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: that and it was it was like the most rewarding

792
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 4: experience because I felt like I learned every avenue of

793
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 4: the record label side without having to be in everything

794
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 4: because every as you guys know, every single department is

795
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 4: dependent on one another. You can't do publicity without talking

796
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: to the marketing person without talking to the anar person

797
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 4: because of that, the song that's coming out or we

798
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 4: did it so instead of us being in the back

799
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: and just not really getting to know what we were doing,

800
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: we were right next to them in these meetings. I'm

801
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 4: writing the notes. Oh okay, so this is this is how,

802
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 4: this is how you plan a timeline out for an

803
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: album roll out.

804
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: Hmm, this one did.

805
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 4: And then from us, it's like, which one didn't do well?

806
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 4: Which one did do well? I'm now going back on

807
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 4: my notes. Why, oh we did this differently, We spent

808
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 4: this more on this one we did, and all those

809
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 4: things were factored. That information is priceless. And even knowing

810
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 4: I was sitting in meetings with the CEOs and I

811
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: didn't even know, you know, I was just sitting next

812
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: to my boss taking her notes and everything, but learning

813
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: and hearing and then even her speaking out and saying

814
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 4: what she needs to say and making sure her she

815
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: wasn't muted at all. Was important for me to see

816
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 4: because we're usually told, y'all complain too much. Black women

817
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 4: do this, y'all, y'all to bossy y'all. And it was

818
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 4: none of that. It was being assertive. It was being

819
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: this is how if y'all need me to do this job,

820
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 4: I need this and I'm not budgeting because I'm not

821
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: going to do the job half assed and y'all gonna

822
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 4: blame me. So if y'all want me to do a

823
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 4: B and C to get the results of A B

824
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: and C, I need a B and C. And if

825
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: y'all don't, then we got it. And that's all me.

826
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: That's because you said no. And I was like, yeah,

827
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 4: because we ain't doing shit unless no. I was like,

828
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: I highlighted that. I highlighted that, you know, and it

829
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: it just everything organization, all that it mattered, and I

830
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: was able, like to go to places it wasn't. I

831
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: saw how other interns were doing it. I also was

832
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 4: in another internship at the same company and got a

833
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 4: completely different experience. So for me then now it's like, hey,

834
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 4: don't come in the office today, and I'm like, oh,

835
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 4: you know. First off, my pockets was like, yes, where's

836
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: the shoe. It's in Culver City, fifteen minutes beautiful, praise God,

837
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: you know. And it's like, yeah, get there early, make

838
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: sure Jason's there, We have a call with blah blah

839
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blahlaughter, make sure this person's there. Make

840
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: sure this person's there, and then and that all these

841
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: papers are printed out, and it was just like cool,

842
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: So I did that and now I get to peek

843
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: in and see rehearsal. Oh, okay, this is how it is.

844
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 4: What's that?

845
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: Who's that guy?

846
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 4: And then you know, I became friends with other people

847
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: in the camp. They're like, that's the music director. Oh,

848
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: there's a music director. He's directing music. Isn't the music

849
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 4: already made? Like people don't know what a music director is. Well,

850
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you talking about? The producer? And

851
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: she's like no, girl, And I'm like she's like no.

852
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: When you do live instruments and you do real like shows,

853
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 4: you get somebody. You guys know what a music director is.

854
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: But for people who don't.

855
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 4: You get shows. When you get shows, you have the

856
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 4: music directors come in and they make live renditions of

857
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 4: your songs and there's the that's why you got those

858
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: big moments where people are dancers and they have the

859
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: big like boom boone moments and they're doing all that

860
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 4: And I was like.

861
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a movie you just did. I saw

862
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: him he was bump bump and it was like Peter

863
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: and yeah.

864
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 4: I was in my boy bag at that era. It

865
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 4: was like boy band or like Jon. He was like

866
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 4: a boy band by himself. He wasn't want band. He

867
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 4: could do it all.

868
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, now you've be making like dessert and ship

869
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: while he dancing and ship on the on the TikTok

870
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: made a trade and out.

871
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: That's great, gas station's great.

872
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: Tapped into that.

873
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 3: A billion dollars or something like that out to you, Jason,

874
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:55,479
Speaker 3: he's somewhere the nicest guy to nicest guy. But so okay,

875
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: So you you learning everything all the ins and outs

876
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: of the music business in your internship.

877
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: How long were you a intern to.

878
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 4: Two and a half or two years?

879
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: So you put it in. Oh yeah, you got an education.

880
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a full college education.

881
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: And I was going there more than I was going

882
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: to school still Monday, Wednesday and Friday. I made all

883
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: my classes Tuesday and Thursday. The most hellish days were

884
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 4: Tuesday and Thursday. From seven am. I graduated with a

885
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: three point five GPS.

886
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not? Pops wasn't having would get this?

887
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: Also, I had like grants and scholarships that if my

888
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 4: had before, I would use it. So I had no choice.

889
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: I would sleep in my roommate. Onere of my best friends, Talia,

890
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 4: she's still we still live, she still live with me,

891
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,479
Speaker 4: and she would be like, girl, did you come home?

892
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: And I was like no. She was like okay, because

893
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: I was a communications major after I switched out of science,

894
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 4: and it would be like twenty five page papers. Yeah,

895
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: so it would be doing all that and then or

896
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 4: doing all Warner stuff and then coming and just sitting

897
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: there writing for hours.

898
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, oh yeah, yeah, yes, you'd have loved

899
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: this new technology back then.

900
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: The way we talk about all my friends, we'd be

901
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: like the way we could have.

902
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: But they don't learn.

903
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: And that's the difference, right, because they don't learn, and

904
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: it's can we can we skip the steps? Absolutely, those

905
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 3: steps can be skipped, but there is a different exercise

906
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: to take in the stairs. True, you get on that elevator,

907
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna lose no weight on that elevator if

908
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: you're not gonna you know what the steps, No, bro,

909
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: you gotta take the steps.

910
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: Ai writes the paper and you read it. Ship, Let's go,

911
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: let's go to let's go.

912
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: This is We are songwriters here, and this is not

913
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: to be taken lightly. Like I like to call us

914
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: also magicians because we literally grab things out of nowhere

915
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 3: and create what we hope to become magic. What to

916
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: write a song is not easy and you know, it's

917
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: not for the faint at heart because also it is

918
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 3: subjective true one person may love it and twenty may

919
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: hate it and it could still figure out a way

920
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: to be a hit, or vice versa where twenty people

921
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 3: love it, the one person hates it and then they

922
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: don't help push the button and you never get to

923
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: hear record right, Like, no, this is real, Like this

924
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: songwriting thing man, and this music is man. I try

925
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: to tell people all the time, like you really won't

926
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: do this. We'll do this no matter how talented you are,

927
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 3: no matter how any of these things are. A lot

928
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: of ship has to align.

929
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: What's on bosses wall just trained. Hard work beats talent

930
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: that doesn't work. Yeah, that ship is so real, it's real,

931
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: and talent beats work that doesn't like, you know, vice versa.

932
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 4: So it's like if you are super talented but you're

933
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 4: not working a lot of people, there's a lot of those.

934
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: There's also a lot of people who work their asses

935
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 4: off and they don't have that much talent. But guess

936
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 4: what they in front, they're killing, they're killing, we're buying

937
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 4: tickets to go see.

938
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: It's just is what it is.

939
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 3: So with you was thishere when you were back home

940
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: and he was singing Orthodox Church.

941
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: Viual choir. Were you writing songs then?

942
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, I have songs you bump too.

943
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: No, I didn't. No, I have.

944
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: I'll never play it for you guys. But I had

945
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 4: a song that I wrote with my cousin and my uncle,

946
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 4: one of my uncles. I don't know if he's really

947
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 4: my uncle, but you know how that goes. Yeah, he

948
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: like my mom said my uncle. You know, you started

949
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 4: asking a question. She's like, Mom, who's brother. She was like,

950
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 4: he's your uncle and I was like, okay, but love

951
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: him to death. He's amazing. He is actually an artist,

952
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: but like a guitar player music is they have a

953
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 4: whole side of just instrumental, like jazzy, like feel good music.

954
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 4: And he was one of those guys who did really well.

955
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 4: And so he had a studio in his house up

956
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 4: the street from my house. So me and my cousin

957
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 4: a couple of times be like, hey, can we use

958
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: your studio? And he's like, yeah, come on, I didn't

959
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: even know, Like that's so crazy to think about that.

960
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: We were really fourteen and fifteen in his studio talking

961
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 4: about can you turn me down a little bit. I

962
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 4: don't even know what.

963
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 1: Somebody said it before.

964
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I have one ear off. He was like,

965
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: why is one ear off? And I was like, I

966
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: don't know. He was like put it back, and I

967
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 4: was like, you know, my cousin's rapping and I was singing,

968
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: and like we were so excited to go show our

969
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: parents after and like my mom was like all the

970
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: aunts were like living it up and it was. It

971
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 4: was just a time. So we did that a lot.

972
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 4: So I was writing, but I didn't know it wasn't

973
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 4: I should. I wish I don't know where it is.

974
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: I wish I could go find it, but somebody got it.

975
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 4: I think my cousin does still. But it was it

976
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: was funny. It was we were in there writing because

977
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 4: who's writing it for us?

978
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: We were writing.

979
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 4: I don't know what I was talking about.

980
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: Was it serious to you or you were just having fun?

981
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,839
Speaker 4: You were just oh, I was done that serious.

982
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Her moment was coming.

983
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 4: Bro it was serious in the fact, like if I'm if,

984
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if anybody's gonna hear this or not,

985
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: but like I'm trying to make the best song I

986
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 4: could make. Yeah, And like I used to also write poetry,

987
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 4: which is literally the poetry is literally music without like instruments.

988
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: So I think that's what helped me to poetry class

989
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 4: in high school and like all that. So it was

990
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: like therapeutic for me too to just write things out

991
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 4: and like all that works. Oh, wordplay, that's cool, Like

992
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 4: well somebody get that. Maybe they don't, but that's still cool,

993
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 4: you know. Like so that's where I really At my

994
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 4: uncle's house in Oakland Hills, we would write outside by

995
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 4: his pool, just write on a piece of paper too.

996
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: Wasn't no phone or nothing. We were writing, yeah, and

997
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 4: I'd be like, song, what does that sound like? Okay,

998
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: you wrap your part, okay, and I'm gonna come in

999
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: right here. No, that doesn't work. It doesn't work like

1000
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: that was it was, and he was trying it too.

1001
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: So we were just going back and forth. And I mean,

1002
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 4: if we had those those pageant moms or like pageant

1003
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: type of parents who were like, I ain't got nothing

1004
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: else to lose, you gonna be it and grabbed us

1005
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: and took us, I don't know we would, you know,

1006
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 4: because we were we had that in us that we

1007
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: wanted to do that. But we also were very much

1008
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 4: like you need to finish school and do all this stuff.

1009
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: So so like a long this journey. As you're speaking

1010
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: on it, like we get to the song writing, but

1011
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: how do you because you're doing so many other things.

1012
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: You're role managing, you're managing and your intern and so

1013
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: who says or who's like you're right? And then you're like, oh,

1014
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, and then it's like.

1015
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 4: I was not saying anything.

1016
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,240
Speaker 1: I was just in the studio.

1017
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: And then it was like when you're playing the song

1018
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 4: and you're in there and you're singing something for me

1019
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: to be like, hey, you can we mark that one?

1020
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: That's it?

1021
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 4: That's the one.

1022
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't lose that tape because you're you know, you

1023
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: know too.

1024
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: You guys are in there spinning out melodies and spinning

1025
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: out things that you're like, I could do a better one.

1026
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 4: I could do a better one. No, we're out here

1027
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: hearing it.

1028
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: You got it.

1029
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: That's the one. Let her do it though, or let

1030
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 4: him do it though. Let them continue, But that one

1031
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 4: right there special, My hair's my hair stood up? Yeah,

1032
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Okay, cool, retake that part again.

1033
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, do it this way? That one, the one

1034
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 4: you did it like that when you weren't thinking about

1035
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 4: that's a form of being useful. But it's also that

1036
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 4: ears no, like that's a hard thing to know too

1037
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: and to be right, because someone can say that and

1038
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 4: then you'd be like, this ship is crash.

1039
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: I stay looking at nigga sideways, like first we didn't

1040
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: ask you hysterical, Let's start there.

1041
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, though, wo.

1042
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Man is blurring out.

1043
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: But no, to have to have good taste and to

1044
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 3: end timing and time and you know, because you may

1045
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 3: be called upon for something that you might might be ready,

1046
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: you don't get it. You can't help you know what

1047
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, And that like you said it, it's team effort.

1048
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 3: It's team effort.

1049
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: More than one person benefits off of the hit.

1050
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know.

1051
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: And I think that's a that's been a at times

1052
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: tough part for people to deal with with when they

1053
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: talk about certain artists right where they're like this artist

1054
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 3: ain't that good, or this artist is trash, or what

1055
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 3: they own is blop up up up up, and people

1056
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: don't realize all of.

1057
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: The extended people who benefit.

1058
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 3: Yep, when that's certain artists from from the hood that

1059
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 3: fresh out of the pin or fresh out of wherever,

1060
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: catches that hit record and now has figured out.

1061
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: A way to make a way for four or five people.

1062
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 3: Connected to them to eat sometime to become millionaires, which

1063
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: can ultimately lead to someone else. And it's a trickle

1064
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: up effect more so than it's a trickle down effect,

1065
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, where as far as the success is concerned.

1066
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 3: And to me, that is that's something that I always

1067
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: look at, even when I'm just looking at you know,

1068
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: the type of music.

1069
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't like everything.

1070
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: We none of us do, none of us like everything,

1071
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: but we have to we have to look at what

1072
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: these songs do for families, for friends. You're giving an

1073
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 3: extra word here and there or a line or this

1074
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 3: and that and helping to become a hit record. And

1075
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 3: now it's like, okay, well you know, now that's your platinum,

1076
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 3: double platinum. So at first she was making five granted

1077
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 3: show or ten granted show. Now you're making a hundred.

1078
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: Now you're making two fifty.

1079
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 4: And for some people that takes decades. Some people never happened,

1080
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 4: never happens. Some people what happens in a year takes time.

1081
00:56:59,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: Takes time.

1082
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 4: And think if you stopped whoa who would have thought,

1083
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 4: you know. But that's the reason why I'm so adamant now,

1084
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 4: especially what you said, the trickle up effect, because like

1085
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 4: I said, Ethiopia was somebody who was monumental for me

1086
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 4: to be in this position because I was like, there's

1087
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: not many of us to look up too. But if

1088
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 4: I can be a change in that, and I can

1089
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 4: hire black women or women in general, and I can

1090
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 4: have my kids kids. I don't having kids, but when

1091
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 4: I do and somebody else's and your kids kids and

1092
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: your kids to look up and be like, there's a

1093
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 4: brown girl who does that, who looks like me, I

1094
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: can do it too. We don't know because even right now,

1095
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: besides the big names and managers, there's no women big

1096
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: name that's as big as any of these, like Scooter

1097
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 4: Brons in them. There's just not that's not as famous

1098
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 4: or known. You know, there's nothing that like a little

1099
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 4: kid who doesn't know much is going to be like

1100
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: there are women managers and especially black women. You have

1101
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 4: to do your research and you want to be in

1102
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 4: that field. But for us to know that I can

1103
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 4: help with the trickle up and be a part of

1104
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: a general there's so many women who are doing the

1105
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 4: Ebony Ward. She's one of them. Like Heather Lowry, she

1106
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 4: has the femin Forward program that I've been a part

1107
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 4: of for two years now that I love and like

1108
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: my mentee named Shi, She's one of the most amazing

1109
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: women that I've ever met. Kind just like I would

1110
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: want her to be a part of my team. I

1111
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 4: don't know for whatever she could be. Whatever manager, you

1112
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: could be, a tour manager, you could be. I just

1113
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 4: want you around me because I felt protected with her,

1114
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: I felt seen with her. So for me to know

1115
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 4: that I can help her be in this space and

1116
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 4: then she can go help four more girls and then

1117
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: it now grows and grows and grows. That's the reason

1118
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 4: why I'm in this shit. That's the reason why I'm like, Damn,

1119
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: some days it's hard, some days it's really hard, but

1120
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, just keep like, remember what we're doing this for. Like,

1121
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 4: there's not many girls, especially who look like me or

1122
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 4: any of us who are out here doing what we're

1123
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 4: doing that represent for a group that really can do

1124
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: it well too and killing it. But where's the representation.

1125
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 4: Where's someone who's like rallying us on so that these

1126
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: little girls can feel like they're empowered and do it too,

1127
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 4: because I'm not gonna lie to you. When I was

1128
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 4: door dashing, I was like, yo, I might have to

1129
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 4: not being music. I don't know, Like this is tough.

1130
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it, but it's tough, you know what

1131
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And how many other people can you look

1132
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 4: and I can count on my hand, but the women

1133
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: who do and who have empowered and like all of

1134
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 4: the women who are doing a great job is something

1135
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: to really applaud and be like, we're making a change.

1136
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: And I hope there's at least one or two girls

1137
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: who can be like I want to be like her

1138
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: and I can do it because she did it. Because

1139
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: that's all. That's a feat. That is a feat that

1140
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to go to sleep and be happy about,

1141
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: you know.

1142
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 3: And that's why it's so important or what's so important

1143
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: for you to be here, because we wanted to give

1144
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: you this platform, you know, to tell your story, to

1145
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 3: talk about, you know, being a young girl in this

1146
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 3: thing initially starting off and becoming a powerful woman and

1147
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: the steps that you took and the people that inspired

1148
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 3: you in the bumps and bruises of it, you know

1149
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like I've known you for a while,

1150
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: didn't know.

1151
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: You were door dashing.

1152
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh you know what I'm saying, like I hit like,

1153
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: you know, we just but someone watching this who may

1154
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: be door dashing. Now, don't stop, you know what I mean, Like,

1155
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: keep going after your dream, keep pushing like there are

1156
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: people who have been in your shoes.

1157
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 4: That you're looking up to and thinking that got it. No,

1158
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 4: we worked, We could have stopped, you know, but it's

1159
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: really just staying true and true to it and true

1160
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 4: to yourself is another one killing it? Yeah, with Ali

1161
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 4: killing it like yeah, yeah, there's there's there's I'm so

1162
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 4: I'm so happy that I can even start to name

1163
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 4: off people like this because I remember when I first

1164
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 4: saw I was like how many how many people are there?

1165
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1166
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 3: Like in this that are women, especially from the from

1167
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 3: the management stage our side, you know, like people don't

1168
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 3: realize that Ethiopia was a manager exactly, you know what

1169
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 3: I mean. And she was part of the management team

1170
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: for Carrie, for Sierra, you know what I mean. Women

1171
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 3: like Lakeisha Orange, you know what I mean, who's a

1172
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: primary way.

1173
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: Like just.

1174
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 4: Shout them out. I love it.

1175
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, like and for us as we've

1176
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 3: been in this business. Yeah, we've been in this business

1177
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: and seeing so many women do so many great things.

1178
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 3: And for us, listen, we're putting it out there. You

1179
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: are invited to come on this podcast like this is

1180
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: a this is a real thing, Like we want to

1181
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: have real discussions, like yes, are we going to have

1182
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 3: our artists?

1183
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: For sure, We're going to have artists. We're going to

1184
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: have producers, writers, managers, publicists, stylists, stylist you know what

1185
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean.

1186
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 3: Like we are serious about people learning that it takes

1187
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: more than just the front people to keep this thing going.

1188
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 3: We don't have this podcast without Jacob Ruben Bowl, you

1189
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like, we don't we don't have

1190
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: this thing without our team, you know what I mean.

1191
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: Like, so we understand that and and and we're not

1192
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: in the place we're at without an Ethiopia. People don't

1193
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: know how.

1194
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 2: Much our Juliet Jones, our Joy Brown, our Grace Janes,

1195
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: like these are people who have played.

1196
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: A very important part of our careers, you know what

1197
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 3: I mean, Like who really helped us, who really guided us,

1198
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: and you know, have been very important to us.

1199
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: So you know, from from from all of that.

1200
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: You're the beginning of that for us of coming on

1201
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 3: to the shelter and having this conversation because sometimes, and

1202
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 3: let's be honest, the women of the industry aren't as

1203
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: open to having these conversations on these type of public forums.

1204
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 4: And I get why, well, yeah, I mean I get why.

1205
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: You know, they're there's you know, there are people who

1206
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: don't want y'all to talk y'all. Ship. We want you

1207
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: all to talk y'all, all of it, heavy, all of it.

1208
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, come on tap with the plumber,

1209
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: motist la Zulu lawyers. You know.

1210
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is a real thing that

1211
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 3: we really appreciate the women in this industry and it's

1212
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: and it's so many of y'all that listen as y'all

1213
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 3: come to my head, I will say it, but I'm

1214
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: sorry if I'm forgetting absolutely.

1215
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: Like this, this this thing, man is powered.

1216
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 3: By black women the backbone of it and pushing us

1217
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 3: to it and helping us with it. And we want

1218
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 3: to be that platform for y'all, and we want to

1219
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 3: include y'all because a lot of time people be like, oh,

1220
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: y'all be having too many y'all don't have enough women

1221
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 3: on the show.

1222
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: We invite all the women. They gotta want to come.

1223
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 4: You know, it's to give back.

1224
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: So she got over there, champ, so you're starting up.

1225
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 4: There, Oh gosh, beautiful. Why asked my dad for pianis

1226
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: he's taunting me? Please taka as raight you talk to

1227
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 4: me because you know I can't do that and I

1228
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 4: wanted to.

1229
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: He wouldn't let them in the house. Lydia work with

1230
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: some great people. You are great within your own right.

1231
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: But all the sounds you've heard songs and artist you've

1232
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: artist you've seen who's your Oh god, top five, you're

1233
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: top five? Mm hmm, top five?

1234
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 4: You better your top five?

1235
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: R and B.

1236
01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: Anything all let me song? Wow? We all then know

1237
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: you got the soul we got to know. We are

1238
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: tell us your.

1239
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're.

1240
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: He's going on.

1241
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: So extra, so extra, just so extra.

1242
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: Sounds so good, don't you.

1243
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 4: I wish?

1244
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: Lydia. Yeah, you're excluding five, excluding no R and B singers,

1245
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: exclude no one. You can't know. You gotta tell the truth,

1246
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: Tell the truth. It was your face and.

1247
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: Singers Top five like vocal five R B.

1248
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: What else they're gonna do?

1249
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 4: So just their voice.

1250
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna rap better sang, No, who sing that song?

1251
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: Who's singing?

1252
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 4: Okay, well number one, no particular order, but number one

1253
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: for sure Whitney Houston.

1254
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: The voice, Yeah, I mean is a the in front

1255
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: of that the.

1256
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 4: Like I told you, I was watching her when I

1257
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 4: didn't even talk. Jasmine, Yeah, where you're going, Okay, I

1258
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 4: have to ship it's, you know, real singing.

1259
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: If those two you know sang yeah, you know real thing.

1260
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: Brandy, Yeah, I mean.

1261
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: You have to.

1262
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 4: So those for sure. I don't care what people say.

1263
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 4: I'm saying it because I've heard her sing with my

1264
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: own ears. Beyonce, what do you talk people like?

1265
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: People? What do you do with these people? With these

1266
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 1: these who are these stupid listen? I wouldn't let them

1267
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: in my house. They can come in, damn Mine.

1268
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 3: She's a popping singer, period, is one of the most popping,

1269
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 3: the greatest of all, greatest.

1270
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: Okay, want to time, and I'm just going to keep

1271
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,480
Speaker 4: it old school because that's how Mariah.

1272
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah season yeah, oh my god, Mariah Christian.

1273
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 4: Those are my top five for sure. Those are also

1274
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 4: besides Jasmine because we're kind of closer in age, who

1275
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 4: I literally grew up on listening with me Brandy, Brandy

1276
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 4: is Brandy is the book of libs and choices. Like

1277
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 4: people are, oh, she's so no her choices people.

1278
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: Don't just placement. Yeah, it's just just a session. They

1279
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: hit that note right there, right in the transition to

1280
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: I was.

1281
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, she's a technician.

1282
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's surgical.

1283
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but even and me like, same way, her

1284
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 4: choice is surgical. And then you have Mariah Worre's like

1285
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: this feeling too.

1286
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 1: Mariah was able to dance into in this in this

1287
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: belt whisper space that only Ariana Grande has been able to.

1288
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 1: Yeah to mimic.

1289
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 4: I definitely kept it to my back in the days

1290
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 4: because I didn't want to have to even deal with

1291
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: all that because there's so many more.

1292
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's so many aliens.

1293
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 4: Now, especially in our generation. But I just kept it

1294
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 4: to what I grew up on for the most or

1295
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: I just had to throw Jasmine because Jasmine takes me

1296
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 4: to church, just just.

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Speaker 1: Just shouting for fantasia, Lord Jesus, that's what it is. Fantastic,

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Speaker 1: that's that's what that's what you say after fantastic didn't

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Speaker 1: say whatever your Jesus.

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Speaker 4: Woman in music event, I mean women in entertainment or Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: She she was getting an award and she went up

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Speaker 4: there and she just said, Glory be to Jesus, but

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01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 4: started singing him. When I tell you she got it, everyone,

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01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 4: it was like tear eyed.

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Speaker 1: You start showing, you start showing. She got something different.

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01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 1: We she's anointed, anointed.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that's my top five singers. And I've been

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Speaker 4: here before. So I feel like you're gonna say, what

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 4: is it the superhero super you speak?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we're managing right now on the camera. Yeah, we

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: manage it right now. Too fast. You're trying to manage something,

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Speaker 1: all right, My bad drives. This is the R and

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Speaker 1: B post, your top five R and B songs. Missed

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Speaker 1: that on the sip.

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Speaker 4: He didn't give me a sheep.

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01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably in your email. Your email, you said you've

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01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: been here.

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 4: You you put a manager's little up on me.

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01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 1: You see what he did. You said, you said, you said, wow, wow,

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Speaker 1: guys to be girlfriend, not pandemonium. No, gossip is one

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Speaker 1: of my favorites.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Wow, dangerously in love.

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01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: Mmm, way to kick it off.

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: Thank you. I was looking a little shakey.

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: No, no for that. We're gonna give you an edit.

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna edit it. It don't look like you take

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: so long. I'm lying, you know, I'm lying.

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Speaker 4: In love with another man.

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01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: Hmmm.

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Speaker 3: Women don't make songs like that all the time. Mm

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 3: hmcause that's a very true thing. They be thinking that

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 3: niggas only feel that way.

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 1: It's not the truth.

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 3: This is just me.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, but Angel in Disguise was something

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 4: that really do you guys remember that one.

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01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Don't do this, don't ever ever Angel Disguise with Joe

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: on the backgrounds when you ever, don't play.

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01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 4: Next song for me superstar m h.

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01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: Mmmm. Very love, very love that record, fair record, love

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01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: that record.

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: And I actually I take back Angel the Disguised because

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01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 4: that was a great one.

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01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: You started this whole debate, I know, and now you

1345
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 1: about to take the song back.

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 4: No, no, no, because that song is still great.

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01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: Full Moon, that's your one.

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 4: Oh my god, full Moon is one of my favorite

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 4: songs of all time, Mike City City all time? I

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: think is that how many is that?

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01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: Well?

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01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 3: You took one back, but I mean you can still

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01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 3: keep Andrew Disguise in if you would like to, and

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01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 3: Full More because they're both amazing.

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 4: Every one more just just we can get It's gonna

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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 4: sound like I'm saying this because I'm on this podcast,

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 4: but that song actually took me. I couldn't stop playing

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01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 4: it to the point my mom knows every word.

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01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: When your mom knows every word, and I.

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 4: Just saw it because it's right in front of my face.

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01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,560
Speaker 1: That was my screen tour. Come on, Mama and aunties.

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01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: He was out of control.

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 4: Say take it down to because that was really That

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 4: was a song that really did. But yeah, you were

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 4: you're very much.

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01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: That was one. You're R and B voltron. You're a

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01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: super R and B artist. Who you're getting the vocal from,

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01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: who you're getting the performance style from, who you're getting

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: the styling from, and who are you getting the passion

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01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: of the artists? Okay, let's start with the vocal.

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01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 4: Who's a vocal U for that, I'm gonna choose Beyonce's voice.

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01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: She's like a Beyonce's voice. I'm choosing.

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01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: I'm choosing Whitneys. I'm choosing Whitney's. I'm choosing. I'm choosing

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 4: whitneys I'm choosing Whitneyes because Whitney is like a mixture

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01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 4: of mouth. Yeah, she can get so ful and she

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01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 4: can also she could do both. Okay, sweet, it's Whitney Houston.

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01:14:59,280 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: It's Whitney Houston.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: It's Whitney Houston.

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01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 4: It's Whitney Houston. I don't know why I even on that.

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 1: I thought, that's who you're going to pick. Whitney performance

1381
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: style on stage. Wow, Yeah, I like it. Yes, I argue,

1382
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: nobody's beating her on stage.

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01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: That's what That's why I was like, I can use

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01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 4: her for something else, like what you're doing Whitney Whitney, Beyonce.

1385
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: Styling Rihanna. Oh you you just out of control? Ye wor.

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01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, manager.

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: Like it. I like it. The face when you know

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01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: you're cooking. The passion of the artists Janet mm hmm,

1389
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: she sweated out.

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01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1391
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 4: You're gonna feel every emotion.

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01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: She sweated out. I seem to do it to this day,

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: to this day.

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01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's made men just fall over. The passion is

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01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 4: her eyes when she's staring at Woo, like should I

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01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 4: look away?

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01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: You're looking at who are you looking at? Right? Well, Lydia,

1398
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: your family, Yeah, we are beyond proud. We got your back. Absolutely.

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01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: The support is through the roof.

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 4: Thank you.

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: Whatever you need us for it is. It is done.

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01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: That being said, thank you for coming. I appreciate it.

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 1: I love it.

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01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 4: I feel like we went way past.

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01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: It's just information.

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01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 4: It was just we started before we even started.

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01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we was already gone. It's another forty minutes, but

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01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: it's just you know, this information, like we said, it's

1409
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 1: just needed. Yeah, it's needed, these stories and these examples. Yeah,

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01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: we need it.

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: So it doesn't you know, it doesn't stop here, No,

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: it starts here.

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 4: It does.

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01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: And then there there will be thirty forty more lydias

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: because hundreds because of this, I.

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 4: Hope so, and we'll all be here rolling them on.

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: Believe believe it. Batteries for everybody for sure.

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01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you guy for having me

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01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 4: come on, man, I appreciate you.

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:40,439
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01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:57,000
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