WEBVTT - Tech News: The US Infrastructure Bill Introduces Some Tech Problems

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to text Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news for Tuesday, August twenty one. As I record

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<v Speaker 1>this here in the United States, the Senate has just

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<v Speaker 1>passed a one point to trillion dollar infrastructure bill. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>for a bill to pass in the United States, it

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<v Speaker 1>has to pass by vote both the Senate and the

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<v Speaker 1>House of Representatives in Congress before then being signed into

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<v Speaker 1>law by the President. Now, the House is not set

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<v Speaker 1>to vote on this until they come back from recess.

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<v Speaker 1>That always makes me imagine a bunch of Congress people

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<v Speaker 1>out on the playground. Anyway, my point is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Senate passing the bill, the House still has

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<v Speaker 1>its part to play, so changes can still happen to

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<v Speaker 1>the language in this bill, So nothing is set in

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<v Speaker 1>stone until it actually passes and then the President has

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<v Speaker 1>to sign it into law. Now, the bill that the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate passed includes five fifty billion dollars of news spending,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what puts it at the one point to

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollar mark total, and that includes stuff that you'd expect,

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<v Speaker 1>like investment in roads and bridges that kind of infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>or building out more rail systems for both freight and

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<v Speaker 1>passenger trains, or building up more transit systems for various

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<v Speaker 1>regional areas, that kind of thing. But there are some

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<v Speaker 1>bits that we should mention beyond that. For example, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a seven point five billion dollar budget for building out

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<v Speaker 1>charging infrastructure for electric vehicles. Now you're probably aware there

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<v Speaker 1>is a very hard push to transition away from internal

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<v Speaker 1>combustion engine vehicles that depend upon fossil fuels. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there are states that are really pushing to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, no new internal combustion engine vehicles are

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<v Speaker 1>sold in those states after a given year. But in

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<v Speaker 1>order for this to be practical, we actually need the

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure in order to juice up electric vehicles that will

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<v Speaker 1>replace all the internal combustion ones over time. Also, just

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<v Speaker 1>as a reminder, these bills don't outlaw internal combustion engines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you know, in twenty thirty it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>against the law to own a gas powered car. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just that all new vehicles will need to be electric.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course we also have to address how we

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<v Speaker 1>generate that electricity. If the electricity comes from a power

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<v Speaker 1>plant that's burning fossil fuels, if it's a coal powered

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<v Speaker 1>power plant, then we're kind of shifting the problem to

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<v Speaker 1>a different point along the chain. But anyway, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>part of the bill. There's also a sixty five billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar budget to expand broadband internet access, something that is

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<v Speaker 1>sorely needed in many parts of the United States. There

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of communities here in the US that have

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<v Speaker 1>little to no access to broadband and considering how much

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<v Speaker 1>of our interactions with society now depend upon having a

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<v Speaker 1>reliable connection to the Internet, particularly during times of crisis

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<v Speaker 1>like the pandemic, that's a huge problem. It It creates

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous divide that puts these communities at a severe disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are also a few items in that Infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>Bill that could surprise you. For example, one element one

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<v Speaker 1>amendment in the Infrastructure Bill places are requirement on car

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers in the future, and according to this measure, car

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<v Speaker 1>companies will have to in opreate a passive system capable

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<v Speaker 1>of detecting blood alcohol levels in drivers. And the idea

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<v Speaker 1>here is that the vehicle itself would be able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell if a driver were under the influence, if their

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<v Speaker 1>blood alcohol level exceeded the legal limit, and if that

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<v Speaker 1>were the case, the car would not start, so the

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<v Speaker 1>car would not allow the driver to actually operate the vehicle. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have raised objections to this for

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<v Speaker 1>various reasons, and I can I can get behind several

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons for those objections. Now, I am absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>against drunk driving, but I also happen to know that

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<v Speaker 1>tech isn't infallible. There are a lot of ways that

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<v Speaker 1>this requirement could have unintended consequences. For example, car companies

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<v Speaker 1>will have to figure out the system that can detect

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<v Speaker 1>a driver's blood alcohol level and ignore everyone else in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. So let's say you are a designated driver

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to give a lift to your friends

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<v Speaker 1>and they've had a few too many. But you are

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<v Speaker 1>designated driver, you are sober, and you're doing this so

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<v Speaker 1>that your friends stay safe and they can still go

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<v Speaker 1>out and you know, drink or whatever. The system in

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<v Speaker 1>this car would need to be able to tell that

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<v Speaker 1>you are sober, even if your friends in the car

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<v Speaker 1>are all inebriated. So a passive system that's analyzing, say

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<v Speaker 1>the alcohol content detected in the air would somehow need

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<v Speaker 1>to differentiate between you and your passengers. False positives could

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<v Speaker 1>cause frustrating and potentially dangerous consequences, and false negatives would

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<v Speaker 1>be even worse, of course, if a system failed to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up on the fact that a driver was intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is a case where we see politicians

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<v Speaker 1>leaning on a technological solution to a social problem, but

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<v Speaker 1>the tech isn't quite up to the task to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means the solution really isn't a solution at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And because the bill specifies a passive system, something like

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<v Speaker 1>a breathalyzer wouldn't qualify because that's an active system. You

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<v Speaker 1>must actively blow into a breathalyzer to use it, So

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<v Speaker 1>a passive system would need to monitor alcohol levels without

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<v Speaker 1>any like direct input or action from the drivers. It

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<v Speaker 1>just seems like it's asking an awful lot of technology,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure tech can actually deliver. The bill

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<v Speaker 1>builds in a little time for car companies to actually

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<v Speaker 1>do this, which is good. I mean, car companies have

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<v Speaker 1>their production plans set out years in advance, so with

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<v Speaker 1>the way the language of the bill is or the

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<v Speaker 1>way the language of the amendment is formed, it would

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<v Speaker 1>mean there'd be a range of at the earliest to

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<v Speaker 1>to start incorporating this kind of technology. That date is

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<v Speaker 1>there just in case the tech being mandated is found

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<v Speaker 1>to not meet the criteria of being reasonable, practical, and appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that. I mean, I guess practical covers it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that doesn't sound like effective is among

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<v Speaker 1>the three. Maybe practical is supposed to cover that. Another

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<v Speaker 1>element in the Infrastructure Bill relates to cryptocurrency specifically, the

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<v Speaker 1>bill includes requirements to report cryptocurrency transactions for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of taxing them. After all, I mean, you've gotta pay

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<v Speaker 1>for this one point to trillion dollar bills somehow. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few different ways of doing that. You could

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<v Speaker 1>raise existing taxes, which tends to be a pretty politically

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<v Speaker 1>unpopular move. People aren't crazy about that idea. You could

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<v Speaker 1>shift money from some parts of the budget to a

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<v Speaker 1>different part of the budget. But this also tends to

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<v Speaker 1>be politically unpopular because it usually means some senator or

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<v Speaker 1>other sees money that would go to businesses that are

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<v Speaker 1>in their constituency diminish. So you'll see senators fight for

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<v Speaker 1>certain things, not because they think that the thing they're

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<v Speaker 1>fighting for is right, but rather the thing they're fighting

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<v Speaker 1>for represents money that would be going to their state

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<v Speaker 1>because the industries that represent that that particular element are

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<v Speaker 1>located in their state. It does get very political. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing you could do is try and find loopholes that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the tax code and close those loopholes. And

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<v Speaker 1>that would allow the government to collect taxes on stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that previously it couldn't but perhaps should have been able to.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of where the crypto part falls, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that there are these transactions that should fall into uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taxable income, but often don't unless they exceed

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand dollars. However, the language in the bill, in

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<v Speaker 1>this crypto amendment is ambiguous, and that worries a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of crypto investors. Now, some of that worry might be

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<v Speaker 1>coming from folks who are trying to use cryptocurrency as

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<v Speaker 1>a means of evading taxes, and uh, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really take their arguments and good faith right there

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<v Speaker 1>trying to circumvent an actual, you know, law, that's not fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>But others are concerned that because of that language, which

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<v Speaker 1>talks a lot about brokers, and defines a broker as

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<v Speaker 1>quote any person who, for consideration, is responsible for regularly

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<v Speaker 1>providing any service effectuating transfers of digital assets on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of another person. End quote is pretty vague. It sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like that could cover pretty much everyone in the crypto ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 1>at least for proof of work cryptocurrencies like bitcoin. So

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<v Speaker 1>let me explain. Let's say you've got a fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>a bitcoin, right, You've got like point zero zero whatever

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<v Speaker 1>one bitcoins, and you want to use this fraction of

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<v Speaker 1>the bitcoin to purchase a brand new television from a

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<v Speaker 1>merchant who happens to accept bitcoin is payment. So you

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<v Speaker 1>make your transaction. You pay the required amount of bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>to the merchant, and you hand over your digital currency

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<v Speaker 1>or essentially sending a digital certificate that transfers from you

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<v Speaker 1>to the merchant. But this transaction has to be verified.

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<v Speaker 1>So this way, the merchant knows for sure that the

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<v Speaker 1>digital currency they're receiving is legitimate, that it's a real transaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and that actual value is being exchanged. So the transaction

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<v Speaker 1>process is part of bitcoin mining, transactions clumped together in blocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Every ten minutes or so, a block is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>be verified and then once verified that that verified block

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<v Speaker 1>goes to the end of the blockchain and becomes the

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<v Speaker 1>most recent block in the blockchain, and that's the chain

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<v Speaker 1>of transaction blocks that stretch all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of bitcoin. Bitcoin miners compete to essentially solve

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<v Speaker 1>a very hard math problem that will then serve as

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<v Speaker 1>the verification for that block of transactions. So in this scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>would that mean every single bitcoin mining operation can count

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<v Speaker 1>as a broker? Would it only be whichever bitcoin minor

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<v Speaker 1>actually got the math problem correct first? I mean, that

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<v Speaker 1>would kind of make sense. The reward for solving the

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<v Speaker 1>math problem is some bitcoin, and I could definitely be taxed.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you also have the issue that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bitcoins a global cryptocurrency, the United States does not have

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<v Speaker 1>jurisdiction over the entire world or anything like that. So

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<v Speaker 1>it gets messy, is what I'm saying. And the fear

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<v Speaker 1>is that the vague language in the bill will make

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<v Speaker 1>it difficult, if not impossible, to execute the law properly

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<v Speaker 1>without lots of unintended consequences. And this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff you see when after a survey you find

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<v Speaker 1>out that more than all senators had never even heard

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<v Speaker 1>of cryptocurrency before. Ignorance of technology often becomes an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Just to be clear, I'm not in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>tax evasion, just like I'm not in favor of drunk driving,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think there needs to be some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of system in place to close off loopholes that allow,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, wealthy people to get even more wealthy at

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<v Speaker 1>the expense of pretty much everyone else. And you really

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<v Speaker 1>do have to be wealthy to be a cryptocurrency minor

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<v Speaker 1>and effective one anyway, because the hardware you need in

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<v Speaker 1>order to be competitive is very expensive, and the power

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<v Speaker 1>bill to supply all that equipment with electricity is also expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't necessarily disagree with the motivation for these

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<v Speaker 1>amendments in this infrastructure bill, like I think they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>from generally a good place, but I do worry about

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<v Speaker 1>the actual language itself and how that will manifest in

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<v Speaker 1>the real world. And it's always kind of chaotic when

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<v Speaker 1>politics tries to catch up with tech. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>couple more stories to cover, but before we get to that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break. We're back, and if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been listening to tech stuff for a while, you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>me talk about the issue of bias. When it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to artificial intelligence. Bias influences AI to favor one set

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<v Speaker 1>of outcomes over others. Now, it's not always a bad thing,

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<v Speaker 1>mind you. It really depends upon the application. But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to stuff that relates to say, someone's appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>or their ethnicity or something along those lines, bias usually

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<v Speaker 1>turns out to be a pretty bad thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>in your system. Well, Twitter recently held a competition among

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<v Speaker 1>developers and hackers, and at the heart of it was

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter's photo cropping algorithm. Now, if you've ever browsed Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>you've likely seen that there were photos in the Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>feed are cropped and clicking on the photo opens up

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<v Speaker 1>the full image. So the crop to photo access kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like a preview and it gets all images to

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<v Speaker 1>fit within Twitter's you know, established parameters for what photos

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<v Speaker 1>should look like in the Twitter feed. But these photos,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they have to be auto cropped because there's just

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<v Speaker 1>no way that Twitter could employ humans to do it manually.

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<v Speaker 1>That means Twitter needed to design and now rhythm that

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<v Speaker 1>would make decisions on where and how to crop photos

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<v Speaker 1>so that they fit within Twitter's interface. And that meant

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<v Speaker 1>there was the possibility that this algorithm would have certain

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<v Speaker 1>biases that might favor, say, white faces over black faces.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, users in twenty suggested that this was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So Twitter's competition was all about inviting people to examine

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<v Speaker 1>the photo cropping algorithm and look for signs of bias

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<v Speaker 1>in a bug bounty, and it would reward people for

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<v Speaker 1>the discovery of flaws in the system. This, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty responsible approach in my opinion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, it would be best if the algorithm didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have bias to start off with, but failing that, opening

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<v Speaker 1>things up to a wider audience of critics and hackers

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<v Speaker 1>creates the opportunity to isolate and address bugs quickly. At

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<v Speaker 1>def Con, which is an information security conference held each year,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of hackers go to it. The award for best

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<v Speaker 1>performance in the bug bounty went to a person who

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<v Speaker 1>found that Twitter's algorithm preferred faces that are quote slim, young,

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<v Speaker 1>of light or warm skin color and smooth skin texture

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<v Speaker 1>and with stereotypically feminine facial traits end quote. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love how this hacker actually put this to the test.

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<v Speaker 1>The hacker created a again, a g N, a generative

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<v Speaker 1>adversarial network to create computer generated images of human faces.

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<v Speaker 1>So again does this well? Again does anything by essentially

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<v Speaker 1>having to AI systems two machine learning systems. One of

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<v Speaker 1>those is in charge of generating something, so in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular instance we're talking about computer generated images of faces.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one attempts to figure out which stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>being fed to it is real versus computer generated, So

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, what images were created by a computer

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<v Speaker 1>and which images are just photos of people? And over time,

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<v Speaker 1>both systems get better at their jobs. So if the

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<v Speaker 1>detector is figuring stuff out much more frequently, then you

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<v Speaker 1>feed that information over to the generator, which then adjusts

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes about generating stuff and tries again. And

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<v Speaker 1>then as the detector's success rate falls, it tries to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust how it, you know, analyzes images and gets better

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<v Speaker 1>at it that way. So, over thousands of trials of

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<v Speaker 1>pitting these two systems against each other, you start to

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<v Speaker 1>create more convincing computer generated images of faces um And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, you can create them so convincingly that if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to look at a series of pictures, you

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't be able to tell which ones were real

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<v Speaker 1>photos of actual people and which ones were just computer generated.

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<v Speaker 1>Some other hackers also found other elements of bias. A

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<v Speaker 1>one found that the algorithm had a negative bias towards

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<v Speaker 1>people with white or gray hair, which means, before too long,

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<v Speaker 1>you all won't be seeing any photos of me on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and that another one found that the algorithm would favor

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<v Speaker 1>English text over Arabic text whenever those would appear in

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<v Speaker 1>an image, like it would crop out Arabic text, but

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<v Speaker 1>it would keep in English text. So that was an issue,

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<v Speaker 1>and Twitter really took the right step here, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen other companies like Amazon really doubled down on

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<v Speaker 1>denying that there's any kind of bias problem in systems

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<v Speaker 1>like facial recognition technology, but Twitter instead accepted the criticism

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<v Speaker 1>and then invited people to really drill down and find

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<v Speaker 1>the issues, which ultimately, you know, could lead to Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>creating better algorithms with less bias. So in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great job for Twitter and an even

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<v Speaker 1>better job to the hackers who found those bugs and

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<v Speaker 1>really gross. News NBC reported that a company called Teleperformance,

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<v Speaker 1>which supports tons of other companies including Apple and Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>and Uber, has instituted a particularly draconian practice for employees

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<v Speaker 1>in Colombia, so Teleperformances employees essentially do contract work for

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<v Speaker 1>these other companies, often handling sensitive data in the process.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of COVID, Teleperformance has shifted many of its

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<v Speaker 1>offices around the world from going into the office to

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<v Speaker 1>a work from home policy. But in Colombia, employees were

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<v Speaker 1>required to sign new contracts that included clauses that allowed

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<v Speaker 1>Teller Performance to install cameras inside the homes of those employees.

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<v Speaker 1>Now why would it do this well to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the employees were doing their jobs right, and also

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that no unauthorized individuals had access to

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<v Speaker 1>the company's computers. But think about this for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure most of you would object to your boss

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that they want to set up a camera

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<v Speaker 1>in your home so that the boss can monitor you

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<v Speaker 1>as you work from home. Add to that the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that for many people, living space is limited, so their

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<v Speaker 1>office might also be their bedroom, and you have serious

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<v Speaker 1>privacy violations going on right there. Generally speaking, I am

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to all the monitoring software and hardware that is

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<v Speaker 1>in use to quote unquote guarantee productivity because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it serves much purpose beyond being oppressive and invasive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's far more demoralizing to employees than it

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<v Speaker 1>is helpful to employers. And in this case, this issue

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<v Speaker 1>goes above and beyond. I don't think there's any real

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<v Speaker 1>defense for it. According to Interesting Engineering, a website where

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<v Speaker 1>I read about this, Apple and Amazon have said that

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<v Speaker 1>they did not request this particular kind of scrutiny for

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<v Speaker 1>their work. But Uber was a different story. Uber did

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<v Speaker 1>opt for this level, with the company defending the decision

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<v Speaker 1>saying that contractors are working with sensitive customer information and

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of that info getting out to someone else

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<v Speaker 1>is prompted Uber to request the higher level of employee surveillance,

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<v Speaker 1>to which I say, this system is broken. I have

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<v Speaker 1>one other big story to cover, but before I jump

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<v Speaker 1>on that, let's take another break, all right. Finally, in

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<v Speaker 1>an ongoing story that I really wish would just conclude already,

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing misinformation campaigns about COVID surge here in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, while at the same time we're seeing case

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<v Speaker 1>numbers on the rise. And why is this a tech story? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because the misinformation campaigns are heavily relying upon social

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<v Speaker 1>networking platforms like Facebook and Twitter in order to spread

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<v Speaker 1>the misinformation and to convince people to not follow the

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<v Speaker 1>guidelines that scientists and doctors have come up with, which

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<v Speaker 1>is making a bad problem monumentally worse. We have variants

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<v Speaker 1>like Delta and Delta plus and Lambda, and these are

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<v Speaker 1>virulent enough and resistant enough to vaccinations to occasionally cause

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<v Speaker 1>breakthrough COVID cases. Now that's not always the case, and

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<v Speaker 1>you are better protected if you're vaccinated, but the point

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<v Speaker 1>being that these variants can break through vaccinations in certain cases,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, on the whole, these cases tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>far less severe than those for people who are unvaccinated

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<v Speaker 1>and then get COVID. The vaccinated cases tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>much more mild with their symptoms, but still not good,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still creating more opportunities for the virus to

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<v Speaker 1>mutate further and more variants to arise as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and vaccination rates in some parts of the country,

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<v Speaker 1>like my own state of Georgia, are still far behind

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<v Speaker 1>where they should be. The New York Times reports that

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation campaigns about COVID and COVID vaccines increased significantly over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of months. According to Signal Labs, false

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<v Speaker 1>information about vaccine effectiveness increased by four hundred thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>percent over the summer. Now, some of these campaigns originate

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<v Speaker 1>from Russian troll farms, which are not just pushing out

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<v Speaker 1>they're not spreading misinformation, they're pushing out disinformation outright lies.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got people who become banner carriers. They pick

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<v Speaker 1>up this this falsehood, and then they spread that falsehood further,

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<v Speaker 1>and they promoted and they give it more credence, and

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences are beyond awful. Obviously the worst consequence is

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<v Speaker 1>that more people are getting very sick, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>these people are dying. Right For the unvaccinated, it's awful

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<v Speaker 1>because they're being they're they're getting information that are telling

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<v Speaker 1>them not to get vaccinated, which drastically increases the chance

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<v Speaker 1>that if they get COVID it will be a serious

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<v Speaker 1>case and that they could in fact die. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the ones, even the ones who who will survive,

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<v Speaker 1>are ending up filling up hospitals, particularly here in the Southeast.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that in regions like my state, where again

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<v Speaker 1>at a point where hospitals are at capacity or over capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>That means anyone experiencing any kind of medical emergency is

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<v Speaker 1>in much greater danger because of a lack of medical

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<v Speaker 1>capacity to treat them. So even if you're totally safe,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that like I'm staying home, I'm isolating, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going out. I'm not you know, uh, exposing myself

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<v Speaker 1>to the possibility of getting COVID. But I take a

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<v Speaker 1>spill and I fall down my stairs and I break

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<v Speaker 1>my legs, there might not be any way for me

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a hospital in good time. I could

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<v Speaker 1>be suffering for quite some time before anyone can treat

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<v Speaker 1>me because all of the local facilities are over capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a real issue. And that's that's a minor one,

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<v Speaker 1>right breaking your legs bad, but clearly there are much

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<v Speaker 1>more serious medical emergencies that could arise where people would

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<v Speaker 1>not be able to get the treatment they need. It

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<v Speaker 1>also means that for all the people who did their

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<v Speaker 1>best to stay safe, you know, the folks who went

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<v Speaker 1>and got vaccinated, the people who are wearing masks and

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<v Speaker 1>who are socially distancing, they're going to have to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do that or potentially become part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is so much quarantined fatigue out there that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who up to this point have

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<v Speaker 1>been being super careful are just not willing to do

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<v Speaker 1>that anymore because they feel like it's a punishment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they did everything right, but they're being punished for

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<v Speaker 1>it by being told, hey, you have to keep doing this. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>there are these other people who refuse to accept any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of accountability, who are going out and doing all

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<v Speaker 1>the fun things without wearing a mask or anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that that feels monumentally unfair, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to condemn people who have that reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, in full disclosure, I have even gone out

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<v Speaker 1>to be with friends and a few isolated cases, and

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<v Speaker 1>we did take precautions, but it still was more risky

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<v Speaker 1>than just staying at home. Like I could have just

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<v Speaker 1>stayed at home and that would have been safer than

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<v Speaker 1>going out, even with all the precautions we were taking.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the situation is not going to magically

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<v Speaker 1>get better just because we wanted to. The virus doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>care if we're being denied the chance to go out

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<v Speaker 1>and live our lives. The virus doesn't care about anything

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<v Speaker 1>other than spreading. So meanwhile, we have these bad actors

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<v Speaker 1>and we have people with wishful thinking that are spreading

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<v Speaker 1>inaccurate stories about the disease and vaccinations, and that continues

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<v Speaker 1>to take hold, and people continue to get sick, and

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<v Speaker 1>our medical system continues to be overtaxed, and people continue

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<v Speaker 1>to feel demoralized. Politicians continue to struggle with how do

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<v Speaker 1>they handle this situation. Things will not magically get better

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<v Speaker 1>just because we want them to. On a related note,

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<v Speaker 1>here in Georgia, our politician Marjorie Taylor Green once again

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<v Speaker 1>found herself suspended on Twitter. Previously, she received a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hour suspension for spreading misinformation on the platform. This time

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<v Speaker 1>she's received a suspension that will last a full week

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<v Speaker 1>for repeatedly violating the platform's misinformation policies. In this particular case,

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<v Speaker 1>she was posting misinformation about COVID and vaccinations on the platform.

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<v Speaker 1>Um she continues to be a worse of misinformation about

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<v Speaker 1>those issues. So when our own leaders are taking part

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<v Speaker 1>in the misinformation campaigns, it can get a bit hard

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<v Speaker 1>to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>But to my listeners, to all of you out there

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<v Speaker 1>who have gone to get vaccinated, who wear masks, who

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<v Speaker 1>have sacrificed so much in an effort to try and

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Your sacrifices are meaningful. Even if the people

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<v Speaker 1>you're sacrificing for don't realize it or acknowledge it, it

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<v Speaker 1>is meaningful, and I, for one, deeply appreciate the fact

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 1>that you have gone to those lengths. To those of

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<v Speaker 1>you who have not been vaccinated, please get vaccinated, please,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we are seeing the those who are not

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<v Speaker 1>vaccinated are really suffering the most, and that the ripple

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<v Speaker 1>effect means that we're going to see more variants arise

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<v Speaker 1>as the virus has more opportunities to mutate, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to place hardship on everyone all over again. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've already lost so many people. We need to stop that.

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<v Speaker 1>And to everyone else who falls somewhere in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>be safe, make good choices, use critical thinking and compassion

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<v Speaker 1>and equal measure, and we'll get through this. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take longer than it should have because there are

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<v Speaker 1>far too many actors in this who either deny reality

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<v Speaker 1>or outright want the worst outcome for us and are

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<v Speaker 1>pushing those narratives. But we can get through it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>it for this news episode. I know that was very

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<v Speaker 1>soap boxy at the end of it. I know some

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 1>of you get really fed up with that. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to apologize for it, because I care too much

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<v Speaker 1>about you guys. I care about my listeners, not whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you download my show. If you choose to

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<v Speaker 1>never download another episode, fine, I understand. I still wish

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you well. I care because I don't want people suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to get sick. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>anyone you love to get sick. I want us to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put this very dark chapter in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, let's wrap up. If you have suggestions for

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