1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Around. This is a pro 2 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: wrestling podcast with a hinge of pop culture joined Battle 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: in Eli as they'd break down the world of professional wrestling. 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna stop by. 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: Now making their way to the microphone, give it up 6 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: for the. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Greatest podcast tack team in the world, Battle and Ela. 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: So let's uh, let's let's just address the elephant in 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,639 Speaker 2: the room. How freaking awesome was all out Saturday night? 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: I mean, Eli, you watched it overall thoughts pretty solid. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: I think it kind of established the direction that they're 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: going to be heading into with TV. We obviously found 13 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: out who the new world champion is, we found out 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: who we'll be fighting for the women title, kind of 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: got a clearer picture of the tag teams with you know, 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: the first round bys and all that kind of stuff. 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: So so heading into TV in the next six or 18 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: seven weeks whenever it is, I think this kind of 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: pointed everybody in the right direction. 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: So, you know, and I just realized that we never 21 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: really I guess introduced ourselves, so we just went straight 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: into the excitement. But this is what happens when you 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: get ahead of yourself. In add Kicks and so welcome 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: to the Battleground Podcast on Battle of course you just 25 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: heard eli uh. This is a weekly podcast where we 26 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: talk about wrestling, and today we're going to kind of, 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: you know, recap Aw's All Out pay per view. Plus 28 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: we're gonna have some special guests on at the end 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: of the show. We've got Jason and Alex Taylor, who 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: represents Pro Wrestling Entertainment. They got a big event coming 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: up later this month in Portland September twenty eighth at 32 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: to Portland High School. Dilo Brown's going to be there, 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: so we'll kind of talk about that later in the show, 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 2: but let's get into talking about Aw's All Out now. 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: From everything that I saw on Twitter, it looked phenomenal. 36 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Of course, there is the CM punk stuff that we'll 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: get into later, but you know, kicking things off, which 38 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: I kind of like what Aw's doing where you know, 39 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: if you don't spend the what fifty bucks on the 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: pay per view, you can kind of watch the pre show. Yeah, 41 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: and I get that that's kind of the way of 42 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: like the WWE pay per views where they have that 43 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: pre show and this, that and the other and then 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: kind of get you to buy into the pay per view, 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: which is why it's called the buy in. But I 46 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: mean it was a really good you know, first two 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: matches to kick off. I mean you had the Women's 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Casino Battle Royal and then you had Private Party taken 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: on you know, Jack Evans and Angelica. 50 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. The only concern I have is that with the 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: buy in and then the show, it was a five 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: hour pay per view, so you know, and and and 53 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, everyone talked about it on Twitter, like not 54 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: even everyone was on, Like MGF didn't have a match, 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: you know, Kip Saban wasn't on the card. Arch Cassidy 56 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: was kind of you know, but I mean they had 57 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: a ton of people that didn't even get on the 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: roster or on the card, and it was still a 59 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: five hour show. So you know, I think, I know, 60 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: I hate the length of the WWE pay per views, 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: especially when I was at Mania last year and I 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: was at the arena for like eight hours, like literally 63 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: eight hours. So you know, I'm hoping that they can 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: kind of scale it back a little bit or I 65 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: don't know, if they're going to do five hours, like 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: it puts some more people on there kind of a deal. 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: It just didn't I don't know. I think we've talked 68 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: about it on previous shows, but I was at ALL 69 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: last year in Chicago that was at the same building, 70 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: and then I was at double or Nothing this year 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: in Vegas, and so this was the first kind of 72 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: their big show that I didn't get to attend, and 73 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, it just didn't didn't have something. Something 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: was missing from the show. And I can't really put 75 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: my finger on it. And you know, last year had 76 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the advantage of it wasn't technically all elite yet. It 77 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: was just it was just the indie show they were 78 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: doing to prove they could do it, and it was 79 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: technically a Ring of Honor production, so a lot of 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: the crew and a lot of the wrestlers on the 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: card they just kind of borrowed from New Japan and 82 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Ring of Honor, so you know, a little bit of 83 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: a different atmosphere. But still there was just something, you know, 84 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, I mean, maybe it was sampunk. 85 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: Maybe everybody thought this was it and this was really 86 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: going to be it was really going to happen, you know, 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: but something just I don't know, there was just some 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: spark or something that was just just off. Last night 89 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: and I couldn't. I couldn't put my finger on it. 90 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like you had the big event star Cast, 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: which was taken over Chicago, and like Starcast had tweeted 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: out this video of you know, seeing Punk in the 93 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: ring at you know, pro wrestling Tease and he was 94 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: like pretty much just trolling every wrestling fan in which 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: you can see the videos we've got him up on 96 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: our Instagram It's Battleground podcast on Instagram. And it was 97 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: one of those things that you know, I was scrolling 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: through Twitter last night and they were like, what if 99 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the Jericho Hangman Patch, 100 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: somebody match, somebody says best in the world, blah blah blah. 101 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: Then you hear seeing Punk's you know music hit. It's Chicago. 102 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: It has to be done, And you know, I think 103 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: I think we should all just kind of just take 104 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: a step back and realize that see him Punk, if 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: he's not doing anything with ae W now, he's not 106 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 2: doing anything unless there's some big plan for him later. 107 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the only kind of silver lining that I 108 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: could see is that if they are saving him for TV, 109 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, which I get. You know, there's a lot 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: of pressure to come out with a bang and all 111 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. But my prediction is is if he's not 112 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: wrestling again by the start of twenty twenty, like that's it. 113 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he I don't know how many more open 114 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: doors there needs to be, and I don't know how 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: much more stuff in the press needs you know, Cody, Oh, well, 116 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: we've talked to him and Punk, No, we haven't. And 117 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, just all this stuff back and forth, back 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: and forth with the money and the resources that aw 119 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: has and pretty much just having an open door for him, 120 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: you know, not only to help put the brand on 121 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: the on the market or on the map, but also 122 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, definitely that would be a huge middle finger 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: to Ventce. You know, I at this point, if it 124 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: hasn't happened by now, I just I don't see it happening. 125 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: And I'm actually one of those people. I'm cool with 126 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: him not coming back. I mean, the way that everything 127 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: happened when he left WW, I mean, it would probably 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: sour me on wrestling as well, you know what I mean. 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I was kind of you know, 130 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: when Jericho picked up the win, there was about ten 131 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: minutes left on the pay per view and We're like, well, 132 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: they got to do something, and know they just ended 133 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: the show early, so that was kind of an indication. 134 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know, obviously I'll flip out 135 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: if he shows up. I think he would be a 136 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: better fit in AW. You know, you're gonna make big money, 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: less dates, almost complete creative control. 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: And he liked all the guys there. 139 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's buddies with all them. He's gonna have 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a lot more creative control, which obviously a lot of 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: people in WW have issues with. You know, just imagine 142 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: them handing him a mic with no script and just 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: saying go crazy, you know, and. 144 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: Just have fun. 145 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean then that he'd also be able 146 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: to do indie stuff if he wanted to, which I 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: don't think he would want to, but if he wanted to, 148 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: he could. So you know, it's almost like everything is 149 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: perfect for this, But I mean he's still he just 150 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: has reservations about it. So I'm giving it through the 151 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: end of the year. I mean, if he's not, you know, 152 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: he did a when he was at Star Cast. He 153 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: made a comment about he wouldn't not talk to w W. 154 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: So if you know, Triple H or somebody called him. 155 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like, I wouldn't ignore the phone call, 156 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: So you know, I think he's kind of gotten. He's 157 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: at peace with with w W. I don't know if 158 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: that means he'd ever work for him again, but you know, 159 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: I just think that the two of these very powerful, 160 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: rich companies, you know, if they're trying to get him 161 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: back and he hasn't done it yet. I mean, I 162 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: think by the end of this year, if it doesn't happen, 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: it's it's never gonna happen. 164 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: It's it's like I said, like we said before in 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: past episodes, it's a fun time to be a wrestling fan, 166 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: and over the next several months, it's gonna kind of 167 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: I guess set the bar when it comes to ae 168 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: W and WW because you know, I think maybe Mark 169 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: Henry had said it's gonna there's no wrestling organization that 170 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: can knock off WWE. WWE is like Disney, I mean, 171 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 2: it's worldwide. There's no chance. But if a w can 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: like you know, chip away and take you know, drop 173 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 2: them down a point or two in viewership, then I 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: mean that's. 175 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: A oh if they steal some of the ratings, that 176 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: that's gonna irritate WW more than them becoming there, you 177 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, if if they just 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: if they if they're the most watched wrestling on a 179 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: weekly basis, that's gonna send Vins and them through the 180 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: through the roof. And I don't think AW wants to 181 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: be to the like the Disney of wrest And I 182 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: don't think they want to have you know, Scooby Do 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: cartoons with wrestlers in it, and you know, toys of 184 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: everything you can imagine, and you know, territories in the 185 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: UK and talking about Mexico, China, Japan. Uh, you know, 186 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think they want to get to 187 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: that point. But yeah, if they come out of the 188 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: gate and they're the number one rated show, like it's 189 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna Vince is going to lose a ship. 190 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, and speaking of Vince, it was 191 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: kind of interesting because like I was reading some of 192 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: the dirt sheets from Dave Meltzer and I guess in 193 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: a recent interview with Triple Ah, she was like, Vince 194 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: is not touching NXT at all, Like it is still 195 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: Triple H's thing for Wednesday nights. Like he's saying that 196 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: Vince is nowhere going to be anywhere near NXT, which 197 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: could be a good thing. 198 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: Then yeah, I mean that that makes me breathe a 199 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: little easy. There are rumors this week about end Zone 200 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: casts maybe coming back and Triple H squashed over the weekend, 201 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: so it'll be interesting. I mean, since it is pretty 202 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: much Triple H's baby, I mean, I'm glad that he's 203 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: still kind of the main, main one running it. It 204 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: would be really shitty if he built this up for 205 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: five years and then when they expand to a national audience, 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: events is like, yeah, I got it from here, you know. So, 207 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I guess do we want to go 208 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: back to aw Yeah. 209 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: Let's we kind of got a little off track, but 210 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: so let's let's let's kind of go right into it. 211 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: So Nila Rose wins the Women's Casino Battle Royal, which 212 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: was no surprise there. But I think like the cool 213 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 2: thing of watching that was at one moment in the 214 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 2: ring you had Jazz, Naya Kong, and ODB all four 215 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: facing off in the middle of the room and the 216 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: ring and like just listening to the pop when ODB 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: and Jazz came out was like phenomenal. 218 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And when Mercedes Martinez came out. That was a 219 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: really big pop as well. 220 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh that Arena lost it when she came out. 221 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool to see. Well, I guess she's 222 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: going by a real name, but it was Emma and 223 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: w W she showed up. And it's weird because she 224 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: just signed with Impact and but I guess Impacts letting them, 225 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, work for other companies, but AW is going 226 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: to be like one of their big competitors. So that 227 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: was that was kind of a head scratcher. But anyways, yeah, 228 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean you had you know, b Priestley, Britt Baker, 229 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: Brandy Rhodes was in it for what Lper's daughter was 230 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, she was in it for a minute, 231 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: Leva Bates, which was kind of cool. She kind of 232 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: did that whole walking on the books thing to avoid 233 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: getting eliminated or whatever. 234 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: The KOFEE Kingston move like some people like to. 235 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Call it, definitely a kofee. Yeah, definitely kofee Kingston move. 236 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: So I mean it was you know, it was good 237 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: to see everyone in there. You know, I think Cody 238 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: had mentioned that they've only announced like forty percent of 239 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: the roster, so there were definitely definitely some surprises in 240 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: this one, but I don't know, it was a little 241 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. CBS gave it a D plus, so 242 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: they didn't think too highly of it. I'd probably give 243 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: it a C. I guess, you know, I'm not I'm 244 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 1: not a huge Battle Royal fan. I mean, even back 245 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: from when I was a kid, I've just always kind 246 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: of thought it was lame, never been my cup of tea. 247 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: It's definitely just kind of a hey, we don't have 248 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: shift for you. We're gonna do a Battle Royal tonight, 249 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, like kind of thing. Yeah, you know, Now, 250 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: if it's if it's like the Royal Rumble and it's 251 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: like that's I mean the whole card that's it's built 252 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: around that, that's a different story. But stuff like this, 253 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: like it's the buy in, it's not even on the 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: main card and they're just throwing all the girls together 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: like I don't know, so so you I mean, it 256 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: wasn't bad. It was cool to see everyone come out. 257 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: It was cool to see Jazz come out. You know, 258 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: she was just the NWA Women's champion and never got 259 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: a clear answer on what happened. They painted it as 260 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: kind of a medical thing and then boom, now she's 261 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: in aw so who knows what really happened. 262 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: The one thing I did notice, and I mean maybe 263 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: I didn't see it in Nwa, but when she came out, 264 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: like her head was like freshly shaved, you know, you 265 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: could see the lights off of it. Paula is shaved. 266 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: So maybe, I mean, like you said, there's still no 267 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: clear cut answer why, what medical reason why it happened. 268 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: That was kind of the first thing that popped in 269 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: my head when I saw her come out. But I 270 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: think the one thing I didn't like about the battle oil, 271 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: it's just the way that it ended, Like, you know, 272 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: you had Naya and you know, Britt Baker in there, 273 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: and it was just kind of like Britt eliminated somebody. 274 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: The girl held her arm, and that was kind of it. 275 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: There wasn't like a little extra kind of meet in 276 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: the middle of the ring, go out of each other, 277 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: and then nij nyaw Nyla throws her out. 278 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of interesting. I didn't really know 279 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: which way it was going to go, you know. But 280 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: to me, I thought Nila was too obvious to pick 281 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: as the winner, you know, But I mean I'm not 282 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm not like disappointed. You want or anything. 283 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think moving forward, and I could say 284 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: this right now, it wouldn't surprise me if Nyla becomes 285 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: the first champion, would just her breaking all the barriers 286 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: and wrestling and you know, the big movement of going 287 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: right now with be yourself and everybody's open to it. 288 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean that that'll be something that everybody will be 289 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: talking about with her winning that belt. And the belt 290 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 2: actually looked really cool last night, and I'm. 291 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: Not a you know, yeah, I really like the way 292 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:04,119 Speaker 1: it looked. 293 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: And it's got the Rose gold and I kind of 294 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: like the how they have that middle plate where it's 295 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: kind of very big, but you know, very long in 296 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 2: the middle, and I like how they didn't make it 297 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: look like you know, other wrestling belts very small kind 298 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: of like, and it's it's a women's title. We're just 299 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: gonna make it very small and call it a day 300 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 301 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and it'll be interesting too because, uh, spoiler 302 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: for later in the show, but Riho won her match, 303 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: so it'll be Riho against Rose. And Riho actually pinned 304 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Rose at fighter Fest when they had their three way 305 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: with whoever was it the third person? I forget, so 306 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting because Nile is definitely much bigger, you know, 307 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: its stature. They kept, they kept saying on the match 308 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: last nights at ninety eight pounds, So it'll definitely be, 309 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of a David versus Goliath type of deal. 310 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be fine. And the thing is is, literally, 311 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: I guess you know, they've already announced the next pay 312 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: per view. It's already been you know, set in Stone, 313 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 2: And if I remember correctly, I'm scrolling through Instagram right now, 314 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: the next pay per view is going to be in Baltimore. 315 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: It is Full Gear on November nine. 316 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: And there was a Britt Baker posted a picture of her. 317 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: I guess at the show over the weekend. But it's 318 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: just a huge kind of a promotional poster. It's got 319 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: all the people on the roster. She's standing right beside 320 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Jericho and you know, Cody and the Bucks and everybody's 321 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: on there, and it is TNT October two, and then 322 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: it's got the AW logo and then it says all 323 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: Elite Fleet F L E E T. So, I mean, 324 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: if that's the name, I am not a fan. That 325 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 1: is bad. And then the pay per view you just 326 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: said was it's gonna be aw full gear. 327 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like they've got to come up with something. 328 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: They're starting to stumble with these names a little bit. 329 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: I you know, all in was really cool. It is 330 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: a symbolic thing. You know, they don't think that an 331 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: indie show can sell ten thousand tickets, so let's go 332 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: all in. We'll sell you know, we'll prove them wrong. Whatever. 333 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Then they announced the formation of a new company and 334 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: then their first pay per view is double or nothing. 335 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: So I was like, eh, okay, so it's kind of 336 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: a you know, they did the first show all in, 337 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: and now this is the second one, so we're going 338 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: double or nothing. But it was also in Vegas. It 339 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: was the casino thing. Blah blah blah. Then they got 340 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: to this show and instead of doing all in too, 341 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: they changed it to all Out, which was okay. I mean, 342 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't hate it. But then seeing that that, 343 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: you know they may do fleet and then the Full 344 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: Gear I'm just like, guys, we're steering off the path 345 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: a little bit here. We need to we just tight 346 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. 347 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: So I don't want to say they're going kind of 348 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 2: like the cheesy names of wwe like what was it 349 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: full Throttle or Speedway whatever WW had where they made 350 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: it like racing. 351 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean in WCW had Hogwild and they 352 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: had you know, Bash at the Beach and my personal 353 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: favorite Halloween Havoc. So I mean like they've always had 354 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: kind of cheesy crap, you know, but just I don't know, 355 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: it's just with the brand new company, you can do 356 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: whatever you want to do with it, you know, you 357 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: don't have to kind of go that direction. But that 358 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: seems to be the direction they're going. So let's, I. 359 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Guess continue on with the buy in. You had Private 360 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: Party and Jack Evans and Angelica, which Private Party won, 361 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: which they seem very high on. Then because they've already 362 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: got they've already announced that they're going against the Young 363 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: Bucks in the tag team tournament. Is it the first 364 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: night of TV our second night. 365 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I didn't see when it was, but I just saw 366 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: that they announced. 367 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: It, and. 368 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Bucks are really high on them after 369 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: their match at Double or Nothing, which I guess they 370 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: I guess they had just pulled them onto that show 371 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: last minute and then they tore the house down, so 372 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: then they offered them a contract on the spot. So 373 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: so Yeah, they're really big fans Jack Evans and Angelico. 374 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean I used to watch them on Lucha Underground. 375 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: I mean they just they're ridiculous. And they were tag 376 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: team and then they broke up and they went back 377 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: to singles, and then they signed with aw NL their 378 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: back as a tag team, and there, of course, everyone 379 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: was making fun of their ring gear. They said, it's 380 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: a Monster Energy drink against Power Aide. So it's kind 381 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: of funny. But CBS gave this one a B minus. 382 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: It's something was missing with this one. I was telling 383 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: the group that I was watching with about how good 384 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: Private Party is and how they may be in the 385 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: top five tag teams right now actively, and I don't know, 386 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: it didn't that performance last night didn't back up that 387 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: statement I said. So I'd probably give that one a 388 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: C minus. I don't know it was good. It just 389 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, something was missing somewhere and I don't 390 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what it was. 391 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and that's one I haven't got to watch. 392 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 2: It's still there on pause on the TV at the moment. 393 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: But you know, like you said, CBS giving it a 394 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: B minus. And you know, there was a couple of 395 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: spots in that one, I think according to this and 396 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: you were watching it, or Cassidy came out right. 397 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: Oh Orange CASSII. Yeah, yeah, the lights went out and 398 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: then lights came on, and he's in the ring and 399 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: he's already standing there with his hands in his pocket, 400 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: and then he does like a almost like. 401 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: A was it a dive? Right? 402 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Actually? No, he he came out. He can't wait, was 403 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: it this match? Hang on, I'm getting confused. He came out, No, 404 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: he came out during the next one. He came out 405 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: during the Dark Order versus best Friends. That's what it was. 406 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got it? See. And that's and you know, 407 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of looking at it right now, and 408 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you right now, I haven't gotten to 409 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: watch it, so I'm kind of looking off the internet. 410 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: And of course they're saying, you know, after a big 411 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: dive from Cassidy blah blah blah, so that could be 412 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: something completely different. 413 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the one of the guys from Private Party, 414 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: his last name's Cassidy. 415 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 2: Too, ah, got it. See. That's that's that's why Eli's 416 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: on this show, because, to be completely honest, I'm I'm 417 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: getting better back into the indie scene. So there's certain 418 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: things that I'm having to ask Eli and he like 419 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: can explain to me. 420 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: So there there I separate fact from fiction. That's there 421 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: we go. We're not fake newsing over here. 422 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: So that ended Private Party one of course, and then 423 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: fade to black kick off the pay per view and 424 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: you started off with SCU against Lucrosaurus jungle Boy Marco Stunt, 425 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: which I like what Adw's doing with Lucrosaurus jungle Boy 426 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Marco Stunt because they're appealing to the younger demographic. I mean, 427 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: you've seen Marco Russell numerous times wass up and you know, 428 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: some indie stuff. So CBS Sports gave that match a 429 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: C plus. What do you think about that one? 430 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: So it was cool, you know. We the first well, 431 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: I guess it applies to both actually, but the first 432 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: like indie show I went to was a Southern Underground 433 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: pro in Nashville at the Basement East, and it was 434 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: two years ago. It was twenty seventeen. It was like 435 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: August of twenty seventeen, and the main event was Kurt 436 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: Stallion against Joe Janella. Kurt Stallen is another indie dude. 437 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: He's been doing stuff with like MLW recently and I 438 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: thank some JUCW stuff. So anyways, Joe Janella came out 439 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: and he sang a country song about Kurt Stallion's tiny dick, 440 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: and two years later people still mention it and talk 441 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: about and everything. And Marco was on that card. And 442 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: I saw Marco basically the week or like two weeks 443 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: before he went to Mania Weekend and did some indie 444 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: shows and got a huge buzz, and then you know, 445 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: it was like a three month period where he went 446 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: from wrestling at the Basement East for two hundred people 447 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: to where he was in all In in Chicago fighting 448 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: Bubbaret Dudley in the in the Battle Royal and Timmy 449 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: Dreamer was in there, and it's just wild to see 450 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: these these indie guys uh be prominently featured in what's 451 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: gonna be one of the biggest wrestling companies in the world. 452 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: So so yeah, you know, we we like I SeeU. 453 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: We saw him at the Fairgrounds against the Rock and 454 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: Roll Express, and you know, a lot of the things 455 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: that I saw about this matches, a lot of people 456 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: are just like, you know, three months from now, they 457 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: just need to give loose Soaurus the belt. He needs 458 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: to beat Jericho and just be the champ. Like he's 459 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: just so awesome, and you know, he's he's one of 460 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: those like big dudes that can move, you know, so 461 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: he he can do some of the high flying stuff. 462 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: It's not like super prominent. He still will go for 463 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: a choke slam, so you know, he kind of has 464 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: a big guy move set and then he's got kind 465 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: of the luchador move set in some instances. 466 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: So but. 467 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really cool that they're kind of showing a 468 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: different side of the business. And like you said that 469 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,479 Speaker 1: this team is Taylor made for the kids, you know. 470 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's definitely cool to see Marco. You know, 471 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: he officially announced he has signed with aw now, so 472 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: it's cool to see him. And yeah, CBS had this 473 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: one to see. Plus, I'd probably maybe a B minus, 474 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit less. There was a couple 475 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: of little things that were you know, a little off, 476 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: but you know, they did a good job of su 477 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: especially when they were fighting Jungle Boy and Stunt. They 478 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: have the size advantage, so they definitely played played that 479 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: part up for it. So but yeah, I think the 480 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: the overall thing is I think that that match really 481 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: put Lucasaurus on the map, I think he. I think 482 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: the buzz I'm seeing online is bigger now because of 483 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: the match last night. 484 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think I was watching one of the 485 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 2: YouTube series about being the Elite, and uh, they it 486 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: was kind of funny because they did They had like 487 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 2: I guess, Jungle Boy and Lucasaurus and they were walking 488 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 2: a dog and then up comes on the other side, 489 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: which was, you know, interesting to see. It was John 490 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 2: Morrison and his wife walking Marco Stunn is their dog, 491 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 2: and as we know, Morrison signed with Impact, so it's 492 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 2: it's I'm wanting to see if maybe later down the 493 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: road Impact and AW might merge. I mean, who knows 494 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: what that kind of thing. 495 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean I could see that or 496 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, or a ring of honor, especially with the 497 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: woes they've had recently. And you know, we were we 498 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: were just at their pay per view and it, you know, 499 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: wasn't the most attended thing in the in the world, right. 500 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: I think I think I saw something like four hundred 501 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: people were there. 502 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: As what somebody said, a't want I think that's the 503 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: official number. They're thrown out, so. 504 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and it's it was cool to see, 505 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: you know, them all together, and it was kind of 506 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 2: a funny video. But I mean SEU picking up the wind, 507 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: but AW is very high on you know, Lutrasaurus, junk Boy, 508 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Marcos Dunt. I mean, they just put out a T 509 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: shirt where it's like the Lion King. It's probably the 510 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: greatest T shirt in the world that you could see. 511 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: But I can. I like what Aw's doing. They're not 512 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: only catering to us the older crowd, but you know, 513 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: putting those three together as a stable will bring in 514 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: the younger demographic. And CBS Sports gave that a C plus. 515 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd probably go just to see. You know, it 516 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: was I don't know kind of what we were saying earlier, 517 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: like there I was there's something missing, There's I was 518 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: expecting just a little bit more, maybe just because all 519 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: the matches that SEUs had so far and AW have 520 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: been really solid and h Jungle Boy Lechersaurus getting you know, 521 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: some momentum going. So you know, I think, I think 522 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: all of these guys are going to be prominent fixtures 523 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: in this company for a while. So it's just cool 524 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: to see them kind of get started. But yeah, I'd 525 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: probably go see on that one. I mean it wasn't 526 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't spectacular or anything. 527 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we can move on to the next match, 528 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: which you know it was. It was supposed to be 529 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 2: Kenny Omega and John Moxley, but we all know Moxley 530 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: had a very bad case of MRSA. And I think 531 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: I read somewhere that with the surgery that he had 532 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 2: and everything, he's out for six weeks give or take, 533 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: which is just enough time to get back for the 534 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: first TV taping. So they got Pac, who if you 535 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: don't know who Pak is, it's novel from the old 536 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: AE days. But they got Pac to come in to 537 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: face Omega and me and you were kind of going 538 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 2: back and forth because you know Omega in AE W 539 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: is what one and one? 540 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, he lost he lost to Jericho and 541 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: then he won his the second match from I think 542 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: he fought that guy from Sema I forget his name. Yeah, 543 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: so he's won and one. 544 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: But and he lost that there? Did he win it? 545 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: Fight for the Fallen? 546 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: Fight for Falling? I think was the three the Six 547 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: Men tag. I think it was him and the Bucks 548 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: against was it Luca? Ye had Luca brothers and that 549 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: other guy that they got their tag team part, which 550 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people thought that was going to beat 551 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: Pak but he didn't. Uh. And it was funny because 552 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: like Jr. And the announcers were adding a K to it, 553 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: so they're calling him Pac And I was like, as 554 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: as as somebody so draw right, well, I was like 555 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: as somebody that you know, grew up in the nineties. 556 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: I owned Tupac CDs, Like I know how to pronounce 557 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: that word, so it's not Pack, it's Pac. 558 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: But anyways, kudos to Park for stepping up last minute, though, 559 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 560 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it adds there's a lot of questions because 561 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, so was Omega Moxley going to be the 562 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: second match on the card? You know, was that the 563 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: original plan before he got you know, his murca flared up, 564 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: or was it gonna be later? And they just suggest 565 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: like there's that thing? And then also did did the 566 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: match happen the same way? They just changed the guy? 567 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: So was was Omega gonna drop it to Moxley? You 568 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: know we've talked about you know, oh Omega. I wouldn't 569 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: be surprised if you know, the whole thing with Pac 570 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: as he was supposed to fight Hangman Page and he 571 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: was the I think it was the can Gate World Champion, 572 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: and he took that really seriously. So he's like, well, 573 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come there and lose. I'm the world champion. 574 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, there's thousands of world champions, bro, 575 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: like you're not the only world champion. 576 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 2: But anyway, right, So but he stayed, he didn't break 577 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 2: k fib and that thing. 578 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: No, and I think he held that belt for like 579 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: two years or something like. It was like really serious, 580 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: you know. So so you know, I don't know if 581 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: it was a conversation like I'll come fight, but I'm 582 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: not jobbing my first match, and Omega is like, fuck it, 583 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: I'll take the win or I'll take the loss. I 584 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: don't care. So, you know, I can kind of see 585 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Canny being that kind of dude, and you know, you 586 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: mentioned and you know where he's at in his career. 587 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he really cares anymore. I think he 588 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: just wants to put on good matches. So so this 589 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: one was pretty solid. I'd probably give it an a minus. 590 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I think this was one of the better matches of 591 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: the night. It's actually one of the few things I 592 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: did not call. I didn't think Pak was gonna win 593 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: just because heading into heading into the TV stuff, I 594 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: just thought maybe Kenny needed to win more. But you know, 595 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: obviously that uh that I think they were calling it 596 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: the brutalizer submission hold, Like that was freaking crazy. I 597 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: mean like Omega basically got almost all the way down 598 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: to the ground and then just toppled over and you 599 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: know he quote unquote passed out. So that looked gnarly. 600 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: But so yeah, I think that really shocked a lot 601 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: of people. I'm not sure a lot of people were 602 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: expecting that one and so early in the card. Yeah, 603 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: And I. 604 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: Mean Pac is a phenomenal athlete in himself, and you know, 605 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 2: like we we kind of talked before we started recording, 606 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: with Omega being you know, a higher up in the company, 607 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: I think he's okay with you know, putting people over 608 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: losing and he knows going in He's like, look, I 609 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 2: could win if I wanted to, but I want, you know, 610 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 2: to bring in the talent. I could you know, him 611 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: putting over it? Could it have been putting over Moxley 612 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 2: like we talked about. But Omega is a world class 613 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: athlete and he's going to make anybody look good and 614 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: he'll put somebody over just like Jericho would, which we'll 615 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 2: talk about that later in the show. 616 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was you know, pretty solid. 617 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: You know. 618 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: I think it was really cool to kind of see him. 619 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: It was cool to see Pop back on an American 620 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: broadcast after all the stuff I should say didn't happen 621 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: with him and hangman, you know, his his status was 622 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: kind of up in the air. So but I think 623 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: I think he's going to play a big part in 624 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: the company moving forward. And obviously I don't think he 625 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: was utilized correctly with with WWE. He's actually a prime 626 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: example of why Vince probably doesn't need to be involved 627 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: with n XT. I mean, he was I mean, he 628 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: was a legitimate threat and in NXT he was then 629 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: NXT Champion and you know, had some awesome matches and 630 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: then he gets called up and they try to turn 631 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: him into a superhero and he has a cape, and like, 632 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's just like why why change? You know, 633 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he was just one of your most popular 634 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: guys and it's you know, the rumor is is that 635 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: Vince doesn't watch NXT. He has no clue about any 636 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: of the performers and how over they are. So when 637 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: they get called up, he just thinks it's a new wrestler, 638 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: and he's like, cool, let's package him. Let's let's you know, 639 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not like let's build off what they've already built. 640 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: Let's just, you know, we'll just create something new. So anyways, 641 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be really important for the roster. 642 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's gonna be awesome. In the course, 643 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: CBS gave that a B plus, So what what is yours? A? 644 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's I gave it a little bit more, 645 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: a little bit more clout than the the B plus. 646 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: So and the next match is gonna that we're gonna 647 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: talk about. It's kind of funny because as I was 648 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 2: scrolling through Twitter because I was DJ and a wedding, 649 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: I scrolled through Twitter and it's like, I love this 650 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: cracker Barrel hardcore match because nobody's ever I mean, I 651 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: guess basically quote unquote the Cracker Barrel Clash, but Jimmy Havock, 652 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: Joe Janella, and Darby Allen in a three way dance 653 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 2: and it was more of a like I guess, a 654 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 2: hardcore match than just a regular match. 655 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's interesting because I know Janella has 656 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: talked about he wants to, you know, kind of move 657 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: away from the hardcore stuff and he didn't want that 658 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: to be the only thing he's known for. But he's 659 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: done it a lot so far in AW So I'm 660 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: kind of hoping that he turns the corner. He was 661 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: super over though all three of the guys really it 662 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 1: went kind of they went the crowd went crazy for him. 663 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: I'm not a big hardcore guy. I do appreciate it. 664 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: I do appreciate, you know. I mean going back to 665 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: the nineties watching some of the Cat Cactus Jack stuff 666 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: from Japan and you know, just some of the stuff 667 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: with like him and Terry Funk, and I mean, like, 668 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate it, but like I don't. It's not 669 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 1: my will house, you know, Uh, it's not my go to. 670 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: So so this one was kind of I don't know, Uh, 671 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: CBS gave it to B minus. I'd probably give it 672 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: just to be it was. I did not expect Jimmy 673 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: Havock to win. I don't I don't know who I 674 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: thought was gonna win, but I just I didn't think 675 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: he would. I was figuring Janella or Darby Allen. So 676 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it wasn't terrible. There was some 677 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: cool spots you know that definitely made people just you know, 678 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: pop and ooh and ah kind of a deal. But 679 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: again that's not my favorite kind of match, so I 680 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: wasn't super invested. Again, it's really cool to see Janella 681 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: and you know all three of those guys. Really just 682 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: see those on a national stage and you know, kind 683 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: of see how the crowd reacted and all that stuff. 684 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: There was two things that I kind of took away 685 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 2: from it. One was Darby Allen with the barrel doing 686 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: like he did to Cody and just jumping off and 687 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 2: the thing disintegrating onto the stairs. And then the other part, 688 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 2: and a lot of people are talking about it, is 689 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: when Havoc took the staple gun to Janelle's head and 690 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 2: then I guess did the flip and Janella just landed 691 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: in the chair upright, And I mean big pop for 692 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 2: that one. 693 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they like I mean, they started the match, 694 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: Darby and Joey Duck taped Jimmy Havoc to a chair 695 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: and then they put thumbtacks in his mouth and then 696 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: put duct tape over his mouth. So I've never seen 697 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: a matched you know, start like that, so that was 698 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: pretty wild. But uh, Darby also had a a skateboard 699 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: with tax on the bottom and he like did this 700 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: Alie off a top rope and the bottom of the 701 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: skateboard hit Janella and it was pretty cool. I mean, 702 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: there was definitely some creative stuff in there. But again, 703 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm just it's not my it's not my wheelhouse. I 704 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: don't I don't like when I go to matches. I 705 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: don't like look forward to the death matches. I'm kind 706 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: of like I want to be I want to be 707 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 1: standing by the exit so I can get out quickly 708 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: if something goes awrise. 709 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 2: I've watched clips of the match on online and through Twitter, 710 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 2: so I I think I would probably give that match 711 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 2: a B. 712 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it had a little bit more to 713 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: it than the B minors the CBS gave it, So yeah, 714 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: I probably do just to. 715 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: Be Yeah, So let's say, let's move on to the 716 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 2: next match, the Dark Order versus The Best Friends. Of course, 717 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 2: this is where I this is where we can talk 718 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 2: about Orange Cassidy showing up, not the other one. 719 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: So this one was kind of the snooze fest for me. 720 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I I'm familiar with the best Friends from their work 721 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: on the Indies and Ring of Honor, and they've been 722 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 1: at some of the aw shows I've been to the 723 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: they're all in and double or nothing, and I don't know, 724 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: the Dark Order is just I don't know, like the crowd. 725 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: The crowd was just not into this match at all 726 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: to me at least. And then and when I was 727 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: watching it with my the group I was with, I 728 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: mean we we really kind of zoned out too. So 729 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: you kind of started so you had you had Seu Lucasaurus, 730 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: Younger Boy Marco Stunt, and you had pot Kinney Omega, 731 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: and then you had the hardcore match we just talked about. 732 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: And then this comes in full earth and it's kind 733 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: of like the wind kind of falls out of the 734 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: sails a little bit. So I honestly really didn't pay 735 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: much attention to it until the end. That's when Orange 736 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: Castide came out. So he the lights go out and 737 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: you don't really know what's going on because the Dark 738 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 1: Order has done that before, where they you know, lights 739 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: go out and something happens. And then Orange Cassidy's in 740 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: the ring. He's sitting there with his hands in his pocket, 741 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: and then he does a suicide dive through the through 742 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: the through the ropes, and then he gets back in 743 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: and then the best friends kind of give him a 744 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: hug sandwich kind of a deal. CBS gave this a 745 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: C minus. I would probably maybe a D plus. You know, 746 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: it was definitely kind of boring. Orange Cassidy appearing would 747 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: would be an a. Everyone lost their ship when he 748 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: came out. So yeah, definitely these these two, this one 749 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: and the next match were definitely kind of filler for 750 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: me personally. 751 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's uh, let's not spend some time on 752 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: this one because we kind of pretty much at the highlight, 753 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: So let's talk about the next match. 754 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, Riho versus kiro Shida. It was, you know, pretty 755 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 1: pretty good. You know, they did a good job of 756 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, Jr. Mentioned Riho was ninety eight pounds 757 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: like several times, and you know, they definitely played up 758 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: the difference in size and all that stuff. The big 759 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,760 Speaker 1: thing is is these these girls were really big in Japan, 760 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: and I don't think the crowd really they're not. It's 761 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: familiar with them, so like it's just gonna take some 762 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 1: time to build them up. You know, I think I 763 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,439 Speaker 1: thought the ending was a little little lame, like Riho 764 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: just kind of did a roll up real quick, so 765 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: it was like kind of anti climactic. So uh, but 766 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: it'll be Riho against Snyler Rose for the aw Women's Championship, 767 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: which I think that's either the first or the second 768 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: TV taping. I mean, it's gonna it's gonna be one 769 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: of the big things for the show, either first week 770 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: or second week. CBS gave it a C plus. I'd 771 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: probably give it a D. It wasn't bad. It was 772 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, kind of what Al Snow 773 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,839 Speaker 1: talked to us about last week. There wasn't a lot 774 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: of like story involves. There wasn't that. It was kind 775 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: of hard to get invested in it. 776 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 2: But yeah, I agree with you on that one. And 777 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 2: there's not really much time to spend on it. I 778 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: know it's kind of setting up for the championship with 779 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 2: David versus Goliath kind of thing. With with as much 780 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 2: hype as Nihla's getting, I see her getting the belt, 781 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 2: like I said earlier, unless they just kind of shocked 782 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: the world and give it to Riho just to kind 783 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:51,280 Speaker 2: of make her a name that people will know. But yeah, 784 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 2: so moving on, let's talk about the big probably one 785 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 2: of the matches that a lot of people were looking 786 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 2: forward to, the Cody versus Sean Spears match. And of 787 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 2: course there was an article that I had sent you 788 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: the other day where Cody took the first and last 789 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: unprotected chair shot in aw which kind of set this 790 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 2: much match up. 791 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, which that's smart. I mean that was you know, 792 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: it was as as smooth as it can go, and 793 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: there's still was an accident. You know, he still got 794 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: busted open, had the staples, So yeah, I mean, you know, 795 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: for the uninformed, I mean there's there's protected chair shots 796 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: and then there's unprotected chair shots, and so the ninety 797 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: nine percent of what you see are protected. They get 798 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: their hand up real quick or something happens, or the 799 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: guy with the chair is holding his hand on the 800 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: end of it, so when he hits him in the ribs, 801 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: it's that, you know, it's just their hand, it's not 802 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: the chair. Cody took an unprotected chair shot and the 803 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: back of the chair kind of went around its head 804 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: and it busted him open. He had get twelve staples. 805 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: So I don't think they need to be doing that, 806 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: so that I think that's the right decision I do. 807 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: It is cool that they're kind of doing like Shawn 808 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: Spears are calling him the chairman, like that's awesome, and 809 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 1: they've got a cool share it out for him. So 810 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: this one, so I called my guess was that Arn 811 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: Anderson was going to come out for this one because 812 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: they were sewn. Spears had totally Blanchard in his corner, 813 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: who was in the Four Horsemen, and he had a 814 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: feud with Dusty Rhoades. So I was just thinking it 815 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: would be awesome if Arn came out for Cody, and 816 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: that's what happened. So the funny thing is, as we 817 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: were making a joke that Shawn Spears has hit the 818 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: lottery three times this year, he got released from his contract. 819 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: So with aw and he's already kind of in the 820 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: main story. You know, he's he's in he's in this 821 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: thing with Cody, and I mean he's already in kind 822 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: of the upper upper card, you know, right off the 823 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: bat he married Peyton Royce and then he got a 824 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: he got a spinebuster from Arn Anderson last night, So yeah, 825 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 1: he's having a pretty good year. 826 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 2: And which, by the way, Arn Arn hit that Spinebuster phenomenally. 827 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 2: Like I keep watching the video that's on Instagram of 828 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 2: him hitting that, like he came in, no ring, rush, no, 829 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 2: nothing like. I think Arn could probably still have a 830 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 2: match or two left in him. 831 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he he to me last night. He definitely looked 832 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: his age when I met him last year in Chicago. 833 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: What you just said is exactly what I thought. I mean, 834 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: he he was a little bit trimmer last year and 835 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: and I mean his arms were massive. I was like, 836 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: is he's gonna get in the ring, Like what the hell? 837 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 3: You know? 838 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,240 Speaker 1: Last night, you definitely could tell he was in his sixties. 839 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: You know, but once it once it was time that 840 00:46:55,239 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: spinebuster was was just amazing. And uh, I think the 841 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,399 Speaker 1: one that he did at Stark at Starkade a couple 842 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: of years ago, the House Show when he hit dolfh 843 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: Ziggler with one, I think that one was a little 844 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: bit better, just because Dolph is an incredible seller. But 845 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean everyone, I mean people were texting me like, 846 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: holy shit, did you watch that because they know I'm 847 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: a big arn Anderson guy. And I was like, yeah, 848 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 1: like I'm basically crying over here. I'm watching so but. 849 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 2: So so let me ask you this, your reaction when 850 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: you see arn hit that ring, Like, what what did 851 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 2: you do last night? 852 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,400 Speaker 1: I basically just raised my hand up and was like, 853 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 1: I fucking caught it. That's it. There we go. And 854 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, I thought it was gonna there was gonna 855 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: be more to it. I didn't think he was just 856 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: gonna come out hit the Spinebuster and then leave, you know. 857 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: I thought he'd stay around the stage or something, around 858 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: the ring or something. But but yeah, it was. It 859 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: was really awesome to see that. I hope it opens 860 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: up the door for him to be involved with aw 861 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I haven't got word yet that 862 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: he's resigned with the WWE since he left earlier this year. 863 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 1: And I mean, he would be just a massive contribution 864 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 1: to the company. 865 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think, I mean, if he showed up 866 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 2: last night, I wouldn't be surprised if he signs. And 867 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 2: you know, there's you know, some also some some sad 868 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 2: news that came out over the weekend. It was at 869 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 2: a Starcast event Dean Malinko. He was doing some Q 870 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 2: and A and he told everybody that he had been 871 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 2: diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. So I don't know how really suck. Yeah, 872 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 2: and so we wish the best for him. So I 873 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 2: don't know how that will play into his role with 874 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 2: a w IF depending on you know, how bad it 875 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 2: gets for him. And so it's there, there's a lot 876 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 2: of people, like, you know, sending their condolences out to 877 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 2: him and everything, and. 878 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hope it's just in its early stages 879 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: and I mean he can and you know, Parkinson's is weird. 880 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: Some people can go a long time with the symptoms 881 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: and you know they can still kind of manage daily 882 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes it hits people and it's like 883 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: within a year, it's just it's it's done, you know. 884 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: So it's I think there's a there's some advancements with 885 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,760 Speaker 1: medicine that can kind of help with that. So we're 886 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, definitely fingers crossed. I remember hoping a positive 887 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: outcome comes with that. But you know, going back to 888 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: our Anderson some point last week on the show, when 889 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: we had had our two special co hosts, uh and 890 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about different things, we mentioned the Mount Rushmore. Uh, 891 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think we could we could do that 892 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: on an episode like I've got I've got, like the 893 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore, which is I think is you know, the 894 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: most important wrestlers of all time whatever, you know, the 895 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: best wrestlers whatever. And then I have like my personal 896 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: which you know, I don't think that they you know, 897 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: change the industry or whatever, but I mean they're you know, 898 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: their top five for me and Arnt Anderson definitely would 899 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: be on my Mount Rushmore, I think. But but yeah, 900 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,360 Speaker 1: so that that match, they gave it a B minus. 901 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: I'd probably just give it a be. I think, you know, 902 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: a year ago, Cody faught Nick Outis for the NBA 903 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: World Championship and won it, and it was one of 904 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,200 Speaker 1: the best matches I've ever seen a lot of it 905 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: was mainly the emotional thing. The match itself was good, 906 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: but it wasn't spectacular. But factoring in all the you know, 907 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: the roads history with that belt and everything, that was 908 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: just awesome. And then him and Dustin fought at double 909 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: or nothing and that's a match of the Year contender, 910 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,040 Speaker 1: and so this one was, you know, not quite to 911 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: those levels. You know, I think they did a good 912 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: job of pating, you know, building this up in the 913 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: short time that they had to build it up. But 914 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think it was like a five 915 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: star match or anything, but definitely Solids. I'd give it 916 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,399 Speaker 1: a B I think for that one. 917 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 2: So we've got two more matches to break down and 918 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 2: then you know, our special guests will be on the 919 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 2: show the next one, the Lucher Brothers and the Young 920 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 2: Bucks for the Triple A Tag Team Championship and a 921 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 2: ladder match. So you knew that this was going to 922 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: be one of the I guess top matches of the night. 923 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: You knew there was gonna be a lot of spots, 924 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 2: especially if you include those four and a ladder. But 925 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 2: I think the thing that's that I kind of wanted 926 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 2: to see in this match is how Phoenix was going 927 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: to do with that injury that he suffered. 928 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's almost to the point where I 929 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: made a joke about So this is the third time 930 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: that we've seen them wrestle, I guess for aw they 931 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: have wrestled in Mexico on top of that, so this 932 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: I think they I think Jr. Said this is the 933 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: sixth time they fought this year. There was a spot 934 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: where they won Luca brother and one Buck was up 935 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,799 Speaker 1: on the on the ladder and it looked like they 936 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: were going to grab the belts, and I made a 937 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: joke about what if they both got a belt at 938 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: the exact same time and they called it a draw 939 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: and they had to wrestle fourth time. So you know, 940 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 1: it's it's like, so the Luches when when we were 941 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: at the when we were at the Impact pay per 942 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 1: views earlier this year, Luch's in l A l a 943 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,879 Speaker 1: X stole the show. I mean there, that's probably still 944 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: going to be one of my top five matches of 945 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 1: the year. And now that they're both involved, that's awesome, 946 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: which that foreshadows the end of this match. But anyways, 947 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm same thing. I'm not. I'm not a huge ladder 948 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: match guy. 949 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 3: You know. 950 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,480 Speaker 1: I love the the TLC stuff with the Dudley's and 951 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: Edge and Christian and the Hardy Boys. Obviously everyone did, 952 00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: but again they're not my they're not my favor they're 953 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: not my go to you know. I think you can 954 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: tell stories without all that stuff. So but I didn't 955 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: know this was actually for the AA the Triple A 956 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: tag team titles. I missed that in the announcement, So 957 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: when they showed the belts hanging, I thought it was 958 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: the new aw tag belts. I was like, what the 959 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: heck I thought they were doing this tournament. So I 960 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,359 Speaker 1: spent like a quarter of the match confused. I had 961 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 1: no idea what was going on, but it was, you know, 962 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: these two these two teams could probably put on a 963 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 1: four star match in their sleep, you know. I mean, 964 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: like they're so good and they work so well together. 965 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: It's hard to you know, it's hard to find flaws 966 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, there was a couple couple spots. 967 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: There was one spot I don't remember which Jackson was, 968 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: but he was on the on the ladder and one 969 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: of Lucier brothers tipped it over and it almost looked 970 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 1: like at the last second he was supposed to jump 971 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: off to give him some extra leverage, and he didn't, 972 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: and he like barely cleared the ring, and I mean 973 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,120 Speaker 1: he fell through the table like super hard. Like it 974 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: did not look planned like that, And so it was, 975 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, pretty solid. I once I knew it was 976 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 1: the triple A tag titles, I was like, well, the 977 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: Bucks aren't going to take those again, And that's what happened. 978 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: And and then at the end of the match, uh, 979 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: two masked men appeared in the ring and it was 980 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 1: it was Lax they signed from Impact Like. 981 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 2: This, this video is, I'll play it. Let's see what 982 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 2: I crowded. Yeah, I mean just ballistic and it's and 983 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 2: it's good because you know it gives I'd like to 984 00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 2: see what Lax can do against the Young Bucks. I mean, 985 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 2: like you said, we've already seen them go against the 986 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,439 Speaker 2: Lucre brothers in its hands down a phenomenal match, and 987 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 2: now Lax can be added to that mix and it 988 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 2: is going to be crazy. 989 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean them them against the Bucks, them 990 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 1: against the Luches again, them against sgu I mean best friends. 991 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 1: I mean them against Lutrosaurus and Jungle. I mean there's 992 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: a ton of good matches and uh ww and Impact 993 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: and AW were all trying to re sign or sign 994 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: or resign Lax. So the fact that they ended up 995 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:41,720 Speaker 1: here was just monumental. So I that was another prediction. 996 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 1: I said that they would show up somehow. I didn't. 997 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: I didn't really know how they were going to make 998 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: their presence known, but I kind of had a feeling 999 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: a total buddy last week, is like, if they've signed, 1000 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: they're going to show up somehow. And yeah, So CBS 1001 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: gave this an a minor, so I think this is 1002 00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: the highest rated match of the night for them. I'd 1003 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: probably just give it an A. You know, again, I'm 1004 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: not a huge ladders and tables kind of sewer, so 1005 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: you know, it was definitely solid for me, but I 1006 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 1: gotta fall a little short from giving it an A plus. 1007 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 2: Right, So let's move on to the final match, and 1008 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,759 Speaker 2: we'll spend a little bit of time on this one 1009 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 2: because we kind of we kind of knew that this 1010 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 2: was the way it was going to end. That way, 1011 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 2: we can get our guests on the show, Chris Jericho 1012 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,399 Speaker 2: Hangman page for the aw World Championship Hangman coming out 1013 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 2: on a horse, which is phenomenal. Of course, there was 1014 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 2: a lot of old town road memes going around for that. 1015 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 2: But and then, of course a big thing that they 1016 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,919 Speaker 2: also like to talk about was the first time ever 1017 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: a female referee was calling the main event in a 1018 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 2: pay per view, And that was the one thing I noticed, 1019 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,440 Speaker 2: like going back watching highlights of the match, like at 1020 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,879 Speaker 2: the very beginning of it, like JR. And all them 1021 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:10,480 Speaker 2: at commentating was like heavily on the referee about how 1022 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: it's great to have her in there, and she did 1023 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 2: an amazing job and she didn't take crap like Jericho 1024 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: shoved her in the match, and I was like, she 1025 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 2: got a little earl Hebner in her and was like 1026 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 2: kind of feisty right back with him. 1027 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool to It was cool to see 1028 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: her in there, and yeah, she definitely backed Jericho up, 1029 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: and you know that was that was cool to see 1030 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: her standard ground. This one was CBS gave it a 1031 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: be I'd probably I don't know, b minus maybe. I 1032 00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: mean it was it was solid. I I think you 1033 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: and I both were pretty much under the assumption Jericho 1034 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: is going to get the belt. He is a legend 1035 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: in the industry. So having him as the world champ 1036 00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: heading into the first TV you know, taping and everything 1037 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: definitely would have would will have a bigger impact than Hangman. 1038 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 1: Not to say Hangman's not gonna be a champ down 1039 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: the road. Everyone's super high on him, but you know, 1040 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: as far as going best for business, it was definitely Jericho. 1041 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was cool Jericho got busted open, so 1042 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: he kind of had the Crimson mass thing going on. 1043 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm still not on board with his new finisher, the 1044 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: Judas effect. I mean, it's just a just like a 1045 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: back elbow, and I don't know, like, I think the 1046 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,360 Speaker 1: Codebreaker is awesome and the Lion Tamer and you know, 1047 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: all the he's got all this stuff at his disposal, 1048 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 1: and then the back elbows. This new thing is just 1049 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 1: a little underwhelming. So so it was cool that that 1050 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 1: he won it clean and uh, you know, there's no interference, 1051 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: he didn't get a weapon involved whatever. And then you know, 1052 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about he won it with ten minutes 1053 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: left on the pay per view, so we're like, okay, 1054 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: here comes Punk, Here we go, here we go. You know, 1055 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be one of those he 1056 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 1: gets the mic and like, see I tell Jim best 1057 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: in the world, and then culture personality hits and a 1058 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: building has reduced rubble. But so yeah, you know, all 1059 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,439 Speaker 1: all around, I mean, it was a solid pay per view. 1060 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, I don't I don't think it was better 1061 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: than all in or double or nothing, but it was 1062 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: definitely solid. I'm hoping that they kind of addressed the 1063 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: length issues and you know, I hope every show that 1064 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: they do is not a five hour show moving forward. 1065 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 1: So it was good. 1066 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,880 Speaker 2: I think the one thing that a lot of people 1067 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 2: are talking about was, like we kind of saw classic 1068 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 2: Jericho of him beating up Hangman outside the ring and 1069 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 2: ringing the bell and saying he was the champion kind 1070 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 2: of thing. But the thing I like about Jericho is 1071 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 2: it's like he's so good at what he does and 1072 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 2: he you know, whoever is the next person in line, 1073 01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 2: he's going to put them over, and that's going to 1074 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 2: be the good thing about having him, Like you know, 1075 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: with Adam Page being kind of like one of the 1076 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 2: higher ups, executives kind of thing. That's that's what they 1077 01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 2: look at, and it's like, do you really want to 1078 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 2: give him the belt first off? Or do you want 1079 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 2: to give it to somebody who knows what to do 1080 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 2: with the belt, who's good the mic fills and can 1081 01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 2: easily put someone like a Sean Spears over or you know, 1082 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 2: maybe a Lutrosaurus or you know, whoever else on that 1083 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 2: roster when they come in, because like you said, I 1084 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 2: mean Cody hasn't announced. There's only been forty percent of 1085 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: the roster, so we could find out who, you know, 1086 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Jericho's opponent is at the first TV taping. 1087 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think they're not done signing people. 1088 01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 1: I think heading into TV and they're doing that on 1089 01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: a weekly basis and you know, start a tour cities 1090 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: and all that jazz. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised 1091 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 1: if there's a couple more big names that they get 1092 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: on board. So but yeah, I mean, I'm I'm okay 1093 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: with the decision. I I mean, I would have been 1094 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: fine if they gave it to Hangman, but I think 1095 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Jericho is the better choice right now. 1096 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so that I guess that's it for now. 1097 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 2: That's our our review on AWS. So as a pay 1098 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 2: per view as a whole, your final grade would be a. 1099 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,439 Speaker 1: Maybe a C plus. 1100 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I would I'm kind of right there with you. 1101 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Again, it was missing something. Yeah, I don't know, I 1102 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: don't know what it was. There was just something. And 1103 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: even a buddy of mine that we both went last year, 1104 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,439 Speaker 1: I asked her how it was in person this year 1105 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 1: compared to last year, and she said last at all 1106 01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: in it was just like one hundred times louder. So again, 1107 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, I don't know what it 1108 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: was missing. You know, there's something just there wasn't some 1109 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 1: kind of magical moment there, I guess, But again, pretty solid. 1110 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm kind of right there with you, watching 1111 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 2: clips and everything. I think like the biggest thing that 1112 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 2: everybody was talking about was Lax showing up and that 1113 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 2: was kind of the big pop of the night. But yeah, 1114 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 2: so that's the end of today's show, I guess for now. 1115 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,360 Speaker 2: Later this week we will have a very special guest 1116 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,919 Speaker 2: in on the show on Friday. PCO will be here. 1117 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 2: He'll be calling in. And if you know PCO, he's 1118 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 2: part of Villain Enterprises. But if you don't know him 1119 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 2: through that, where can they remember him? From? Eli? My 1120 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: historian guy. 1121 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: So he got his I mean he actually is an 1122 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,520 Speaker 1: old school guy. He's about fifty one. There was a 1123 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,840 Speaker 1: WA wrestler in the nineties called the Mounteam and PCO 1124 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: joined and they put them together and they were the Quebecers. 1125 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: And then he did Stintson WW or WCW and WW. 1126 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: He kind of went back and forth, and then like 1127 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen he decided to wrestle again. 1128 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: And last year he fought at Joey Janella's Spring Break 1129 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 1: in New Orleans and I was lucky enough to be 1130 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: there and he fought Walter who is now the nxt 1131 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:37,200 Speaker 1: UK champion and he's probably twenty years younger than PCO 1132 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 1: and just as big as mean, and Walter is known 1133 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 1: for his massive chops, like the actual chop move. I mean, 1134 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,000 Speaker 1: he has a humongous hand and a lot of momentum 1135 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: and he just swings that thing and just destroys people's 1136 01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: chest and Pco's chest after the match was just brown 1137 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: and purple and it was just disgusting. But it was 1138 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: just unbelievable. I don't think anyone really foresaw it, could 1139 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: foresee this match being as good as it was, and 1140 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,959 Speaker 1: it put both of them on the map or back 1141 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: on the map, however you want to call it. And 1142 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 1: it was definitely a top five match for me last year. 1143 01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just incredible. I mean he's PCO 1144 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,480 Speaker 1: is still doing moon salts and ship off off the 1145 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: top rope, and I mean he's just a freak. He 1146 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 1: should not be performing at this level for someone that's 1147 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 1: almost fifty two. So it's cool that he's he's signed 1148 01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: with a Ring of Honor right now and Villain Enterprises 1149 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: are they're the six man tag champions right now, so yeah, 1150 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 1: should be should be a cool chat. 1151 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 2: So there is a PCOS so he'll be on Friday show, 1152 01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,919 Speaker 2: we'll drop that around ten am. But on today's show, 1153 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 2: I've got, uh, you know, I got to sit down 1154 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,720 Speaker 2: and talk with Jason, who is the promoter for Pro 1155 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 2: Wrestling Entertainment, and I've got to have their champion, Alex Taylor, 1156 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 2: who came on the show. So we talked about Portland pounds. 1157 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,360 Speaker 2: We're just going down Saturday, September twenty eighth in Portland, 1158 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,160 Speaker 2: which we will put a link in the description where 1159 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 2: you can buy your ticket. Spot Les, let's jump into 1160 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: that interview. So me and Eli are gonna go ahead 1161 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 2: and say ourcupies now, So is there anything you want 1162 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:22,840 Speaker 2: to say to the fans? 1163 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 1: Goodbye? 1164 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 2: All right, here's our interview with the guys from Pro 1165 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: Wrestling Entertainment. This is kind of an exciting time for 1166 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,680 Speaker 2: me because wrestling is legitimately in my backyard ten minutes 1167 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 2: away from my house in Portland. It is going down Portland. 1168 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Pounce. 1169 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: I've got the champion right now, Alex Taylor's in the building. Also, 1170 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: I've got Jason, who is the promoter of Pro Wrestling Entertainment. Dude, 1171 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 2: it's such an honor to have you guys in here. 1172 01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 3: Man, thanks for having us. We appreciate the opportunity coming 1173 01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 3: by and spreading the word about the event going to 1174 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 3: be an exciting time. 1175 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,479 Speaker 2: Let's kind of talk about this. I mean, I'm looking 1176 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 2: at it right now and I have the card in 1177 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 2: my hand. Dlo Brown's gonna be there, just putting up 1178 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 2: the championship belt. You've got lt fuck, you've got the 1179 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 2: war Kings. I mean, let's talk about this. Alex, what's uh, 1180 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 2: let's can you give us who you're wrestling that night 1181 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 2: or is it still uder Rapt? 1182 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 4: Well I haven't. I haven't heard yet. So but whoever 1183 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 4: steps up, you know, I'm gonna put the strap on 1184 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 4: the line. We'll see what happens. I know what's gonna happen. 1185 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,600 Speaker 2: But I mean I think we can all know what's 1186 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 2: gonna happen. If you put that strap on the line, 1187 01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 2: You're you're gonna walk out with it, you know, at 1188 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,280 Speaker 2: the end of. 1189 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 4: The night, right walking out the same way I came in. 1190 01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,600 Speaker 2: So how do you prepare for a match? If you 1191 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 2: don't know right now, you'll find out later. I mean, 1192 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 2: is there somebody in your mind that you're wanting to. 1193 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Wrestle anybody who steps up? Really, I have no preference good, bad, indifferent, big, small, 1194 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 4: shorts tall, I'll fight them all. 1195 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 2: So it is going down in Portland at the Portland 1196 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 2: High School Saturday, September twenty eighth. Seven o'clock is the belltime. 1197 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Doors are at six. Tickets started only ten dollars. Pro 1198 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 2: Wrestling eant dot com. Let's let's kind of talk about this. 1199 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 2: How did all this begin? 1200 01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 3: Well, we do a yearly show every year in Portland, 1201 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,840 Speaker 3: Christmas for Kids is what we call it, and we 1202 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 3: do it typically around the twenty fifth of December. And 1203 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 3: it started out as just a yearly charity event that 1204 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,680 Speaker 3: we partnered with the City of Portland on and we 1205 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 3: started that probably about four years ago with those guys 1206 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 3: in the relationship continued to grow and build and we 1207 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 3: started doing another yearly fundraising show for him during their 1208 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 3: Strawberry Slam every year in May. So we've got that 1209 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,400 Speaker 3: with them as well. And then the guys that we 1210 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,040 Speaker 3: do business with, Chris Ladd and the gang in the media, 1211 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 3: newspaper and all of that in Portland, hit us up 1212 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:35,640 Speaker 3: and they said, we want to do something for the 1213 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 3: high school. The football team Portland Pounds try to raise 1214 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,080 Speaker 3: some funds for those guys, and they talked to the 1215 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 3: board and the relationship with the city and Chamber of 1216 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 3: Commerce was so good they said, let's bring wrestling back 1217 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,640 Speaker 3: and do it again for these guys. 1218 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: Man, it's going to be exciting stuff right there. 1219 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Delo Brown is going to be in town for it, 1220 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,680 Speaker 3: so we're really excited about that. Delo has, to my knowledge, 1221 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 3: hasn't made an appearance in or around nashe and probably 1222 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 3: ten years or better. 1223 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 2: It's probably what been since what TNA at the paragraph. 1224 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Possibly Yeah, his stint with TNA when he was in 1225 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 3: the ring with him was would probably be the last 1226 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 3: time he was in action in this area. So I 1227 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 3: think we got a little bit of a thirst for 1228 01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,600 Speaker 3: that and Delo's Delo's an interesting character. I don't know 1229 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,040 Speaker 3: if you've ever got the chance to see him perform live, 1230 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: but he's always a good time. 1231 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's it's gonna be a great time. Saturday, 1232 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 2: September twenty eight, Portland Pounds in Portland, Alex. Let's go 1233 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 2: back to where it all began. I want to know 1234 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 2: what got you into wrestling, Like, what wasn't what was 1235 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,800 Speaker 2: the one match one wrestler? What set you in. 1236 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 4: I've been a wrestling fan as long as I can remember. 1237 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 4: But when I was in about fourth grade, I got 1238 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 4: a Shawn Michael's DVD and I watched Shawn Michaels Brett 1239 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 4: Hart probably a thousand times. So that match is really 1240 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 4: what made me want to be a pro wrestler. 1241 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 2: Watching that match. When you when you get out and wrestle, 1242 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,280 Speaker 2: who is it that you kind of like, I guess, 1243 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 2: mimic in the ring, like if you were if somebody 1244 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 2: has never seen you wrestle before, who can you say 1245 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 2: of like your style so that way they can picture 1246 01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,439 Speaker 2: it right now. 1247 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I like to think of myself kind of like done 1248 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 4: and my kid. Okay, little old school style but rough, tough, 1249 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,479 Speaker 4: I fly a little bit, but gotta keep it on 1250 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,679 Speaker 4: the ground most of the time. 1251 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 2: I don't blame you. I'd probably keep it on the 1252 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 2: ground too. I'd be super scared to even get up there. 1253 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:25,040 Speaker 2: I'd be like, no, no, no, I'm not gonna do that. 1254 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 2: Your dream match, Like, if you could have anybody, what's 1255 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 2: your dream match? 1256 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 4: Anybody, any anybody, any. 1257 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 2: Stipulation, any place, what is it? I'm gonna put you 1258 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 2: on the spot. This is gonna be the fun one. 1259 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 4: We're talking active right now. 1260 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,599 Speaker 2: Talk about anybody. You can go back, you can go forward, last, present, future. 1261 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: Here dude, it's it's your dream match. We're like putting 1262 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,799 Speaker 2: this into the video game right now. Alex Taylor versus 1263 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,559 Speaker 2: Jerry Lynn. Damn, that'd be a good one. Can we 1264 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 2: can we just kind of book this for the next 1265 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 2: I've got Jerry on speed Doll. 1266 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,200 Speaker 3: He's a pretty good friend of mine. I might make 1267 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:01,799 Speaker 3: a favor, see if you can come out of retirement 1268 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 3: for that. 1269 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:02,800 Speaker 4: Would appreciate that. 1270 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 2: Let's have him run in on the twenty eighth. It's September. Oh, man, 1271 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 2: don't cost Alex the belt, but let's just kind of 1272 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 2: have something. 1273 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a heck of a challenge, especially unknown 1274 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 3: walking into that one, not knowing who. 1275 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:14,559 Speaker 2: Is gonna be. 1276 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 4: There's a surprise here. 1277 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 2: It is right there. So it is going down September 1278 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 2: twenty eighth over there in Portland Portland Pounds. Man, it's 1279 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,560 Speaker 2: gonna be an awesome event. So what's something else it 1280 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,960 Speaker 2: can expect If they've never been to one of your 1281 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 2: guys's events. I know it's kid friendly because I brought 1282 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 2: my kids to it. 1283 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: Well past the past. 1284 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 3: The wrestling show you're going to get an incredible experience 1285 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,479 Speaker 3: interacting with the wrestlers. That's one thing that we pride 1286 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 3: ourselves on as being, like you said, a fan friendly environment. 1287 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,160 Speaker 3: We're going to do a pre show meet and greet 1288 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:47,400 Speaker 3: before the show starts, so you'll get the opportunity to 1289 01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,160 Speaker 3: come in, shake hands with the wrestlers, get photos, you know, 1290 01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,920 Speaker 3: get your hands on some exclusive merchandise from wrestle Topia. 1291 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,720 Speaker 3: They'll be in the house for that. But that that's 1292 01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 3: that's one thing that we do, I think a lot 1293 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 3: better than a lot of the local promotions is the 1294 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 3: involvement with our fans and our show and the interaction 1295 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 3: that they get to have with the superstars before and after. 1296 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:10,680 Speaker 2: And you know, that's the one thing that I like 1297 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,320 Speaker 2: because I've been to a couple of years stuff and 1298 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 2: I went to the Strawberry Festival one and it's like, 1299 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 2: you walk in and you don't have to worry about, Okay, 1300 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 2: is this wrestler going to drop the F bomb? Am 1301 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 2: I going to earmuff my eleven year old? And then 1302 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 2: the fact that they could walk off and you know 1303 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 2: that eleven year old can meet Alex and be like, 1304 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,800 Speaker 2: I want to be like him. And that's one of 1305 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 2: the cool things that I like about the meet and 1306 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 2: greet aspect before because you get to like legitimately sit 1307 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 2: there and talk to the wrestler, you get to know them. 1308 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 2: And then because when I was grown up, there was 1309 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,479 Speaker 2: no that stuff with wrestling. I mean you would meet 1310 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,240 Speaker 2: them in the back of alley, parking lot, whatever, and 1311 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,280 Speaker 2: it was a brief high autograph. 1312 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:47,720 Speaker 4: Go. 1313 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the structure of the business has changed so much, 1314 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 3: and we use the term that, you know, the curtain's 1315 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 3: been pulled back and all of that with the Internet 1316 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 3: and all, but the show has been come such more 1317 01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 3: than just a show. It's now an experience. And I 1318 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 3: like to use the example WrestleMania. You know, back in 1319 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 3: the day, it was, you know, a one off pay 1320 01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,719 Speaker 3: per view on a Sunday. Now it's a week long event. 1321 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,360 Speaker 3: You know, you go into WrestleMania the Sunday before and 1322 01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 3: you got things going on on Monday and Tuesday and 1323 01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday all before you get to the show 1324 01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 3: on Sunday. So that's kind of what you know, we 1325 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 3: look at our show, is it you're coming for a 1326 01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 3: wrestling show, but you're gonna get an experience. It's it's 1327 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 3: well beyond that. 1328 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean just kind of looking at pastors. 1329 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,599 Speaker 2: I mean, you've had amazing passions, like crazy. Steve's been 1330 01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:37,160 Speaker 2: at them. I've seen, you know, or guitar shot somebody. 1331 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've broken a few guitars in Portland. We've had 1332 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,559 Speaker 3: w W. Hall of Famer Jerry the King Lawler on 1333 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,000 Speaker 3: our shows. Psycho sid Vicious was at our Christmas show 1334 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,559 Speaker 3: last year. We are returning to Portland for the Christmas 1335 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,519 Speaker 3: for Kids again this year. Got a huge announcement coming 1336 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,320 Speaker 3: up on that. I'm sure we'll talk later later on 1337 01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 3: when the time's right for that one, but we're excited 1338 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,559 Speaker 3: about that as well. So we continue the tradition in Portland, 1339 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,599 Speaker 3: and we really like working with the folks of Sunder County. 1340 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 3: It's it's been good for us. 1341 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 2: And that was kind of what it's going to go 1342 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,720 Speaker 2: into my next question. What was the you know, the 1343 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,800 Speaker 2: next big thing after this one? And you just kind 1344 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 2: of as. 1345 01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 3: I let the cat out of the bag. We are 1346 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:21,040 Speaker 3: coming back to Portland December the fifteenth or fourteenth, I 1347 01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 3: believe it's that Saturday for Christmas for Kids, And like 1348 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,880 Speaker 3: I said, we're going to make a blockbuster announcement on 1349 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,800 Speaker 3: Who's going to be headlining that event shortly after our 1350 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 3: Portland Pounds. 1351 01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 2: That is going to be exciting, so you'd better get 1352 01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 2: your tickets right now. It is going down September twenty eighth, 1353 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Saturday in Portland. Tickets starting at ten dollars. Pro WRESTLINGEANT 1354 01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 2: dot com. 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