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Speaker 3: best game on the slate. When you asks people, oh,

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Speaker 3: give me your top five NFL teams, these two teams

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Speaker 3: are always one two. Whoever you put one, does it matter?

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Speaker 3: Chiefs and Eagles on Monday. Not only is it a

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Speaker 3: marquee game, it's a Monday Night, it's a standalone game.

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Speaker 3: So everybody is going to tune in. Everybody will be watching.

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Speaker 3: I won't be at home, so I'm gonna be watching

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Speaker 3: on my phone, but I'm gonna be watching every snap.

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Speaker 3: Chiefs Eagles. My homes Jalen Hurts, Kelsey, AJ Brown. This

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Speaker 3: game here. Uh it's a rematch obviously of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in a future rematch. This year's for the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: I'm not so sure of that, but it's a great

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Speaker 3: probab Man with that.

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Speaker 2: That was my pick. That was my pick. So you said,

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Speaker 2: I'm still alive. How I can't believe mister.

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Speaker 4: Hey. You know what, Hey, when the season first started,

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Speaker 4: I said.

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Speaker 2: To the Chiefs. You know what I said?

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Speaker 4: I said, I said to Kansas City, the Chiefs would

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Speaker 4: be the first team to repeat in twenty years since

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Speaker 4: the New England Papers, and it will be a rematch

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Speaker 4: of the Super Bowl. And I said that, and TJ

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Speaker 4: was like nine, Kansas City, they don't have the team

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Speaker 4: and blah blah blah, And we're right back at the

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Speaker 4: same position where when we started the season.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 3: Man, I just don't feel like offensively they have enough firepower.

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Speaker 3: And if they do have enough firepower, they're not showing us.

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Speaker 4: I agree with you. I just think Monday night, the

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Speaker 4: Philadelphia Eagles are going to impose their will on these

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Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs and let the world know that they

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Speaker 4: are the best football team in football.

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Speaker 2: We agree on.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's a statement game for them because they

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Speaker 4: are coming off of Super Bowl lost to this team.

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Speaker 4: And apparently, I guess Jalen Hurst has this his picture

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Speaker 4: still on his phone from him walking off the field

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Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, which he uses every day for motivation.

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Speaker 4: And I just think for the Philadelphia Eagles, from a

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Speaker 4: of those things, they win this game on Monday, and

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Speaker 4: their confidence goes to the roof knowing that they can

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Speaker 4: defeat the Kansas City Chiefs. And I think it's for

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Speaker 4: one reason, the one reason only. I think they're more

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Speaker 4: a physical football team for sure, I really do. And

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Speaker 4: I think spag He's not gonna treat anybody differently. They

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Speaker 4: are going to play man and man. They're Gonnay're gonna

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Speaker 4: pressure mahomes up without blitzing, because if you can get

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Speaker 4: yeah yeah pressure uh Jalen hurts. But I just think

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Speaker 4: that Philadelphia has the outfit for the style of defense

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Speaker 4: that he wants to run.

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Speaker 2: And A. J. Brown and D.

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Speaker 4: Smith and DeAndre Swift, those guys and if you put

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Speaker 4: of the Eagles, if they want to have the confidence

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Speaker 4: They win this game, they will have home feel vanished

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Speaker 4: throughout and it's just a confidence builder for them going

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Speaker 4: down to Stretchbury to listen, now, we know we can

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Speaker 5: You know, whether they beat Casey or not, this is

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Speaker 5: a confident Philadelphia Eagle team. I don't think that that

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Speaker 5: makes them waiver on whether they can beat them or not.

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Speaker 5: But I do think it's a step up statement game

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Speaker 5: for the Eagles. But I think what makes this a

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Speaker 2: As they have in the past. They have struggled and

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Speaker 5: I think that this is a step up game and

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Speaker 5: a prove it game as well for Kansas City. The

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Speaker 5: if you're looking at it critically, it is the defense,

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Speaker 5: continuing to figure out how to win games. Like sometimes

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Speaker 5: we look at things and we get we get spoiled,

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Speaker 5: or we get you know, you get out of touch

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Speaker 5: with reality. It's hard as hell to win in the NFL,

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Speaker 5: super hard to win. And the dominance that Casey has

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Speaker 5: it's just been it's been crazy to see them kind

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Speaker 5: game for many reasons. Obviously, Andy Reid and Spags come

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Speaker 2: You got the Kelsey Brothers.

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Speaker 5: There's so much connectivity to these teams and to this game.

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Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a super fun game

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Speaker 5: to watch. I'm glad it's a primetime game because I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's that's the best you can get right there. But

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Speaker 5: I think both of these teams have a lot to

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Speaker 3: If you ask me, Yeah, this game here is it's

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Speaker 3: a clash of the Titans. It really is the two

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Speaker 3: teams that just played in the Super Bowl, and neither

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Speaker 3: team is playing its best football. The Chiefs aren't as

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Speaker 3: This defense is carrying them. It's not the offense as

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Speaker 3: it's always been. It's this. It is the defense and

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Speaker 3: the Eagles. Jalen Hurts has been banged up. He hasn't

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Speaker 3: been one hundred percent there. They've had guys in and

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Speaker 4: Many but I think the Philadelphia Eagles are playing the

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Speaker 4: best football. I mean, what else more than you wanted

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Speaker 3: When you look at their secondary, they're they're not good

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Speaker 3: a ton of yards to in the air and to

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Speaker 3: receivers individually. And Jalen Hurts isn't nowhere near moving in

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Speaker 3: agile as he was at the start of the season,

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Speaker 3: and he's admitted that. And so they're coming off of

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Speaker 3: guys to be healthier, fresh, expect guys to feel better,

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Speaker 3: and so I expect to see an Eagles team that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be rejuvenated, refreshed and ready to row. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: the super they want to get this victory because of

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Speaker 3: what happened in the Super Bowl. But more than anything else,

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Speaker 3: it's the psyche. We can beat this team. Absolutely, we

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Speaker 3: can beat this team. And so I'm expecting a great

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Speaker 3: when you say the Kansas City Chiefs, you think of

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey going up and down

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Speaker 3: the field, and it's not that it's Chris Jones in

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Speaker 3: that defense saving them. And so for me, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: the game of the week, but it's a game where

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Speaker 3: Kansas City can get their confidence back offensively, and if

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Speaker 3: they don't, the Eagles gonna The Eagles have so many weapons,

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Speaker 3: it's just crazy. How on the back end of their

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Speaker 3: defense they're struggling and they have Sleigh, they have Brad Burry,

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Speaker 3: they have pieces on the back end. They just traded

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Speaker 3: for Kevin Byern from the Titans, like they're they're I mean,

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Speaker 3: they got a team on Madden and everybody won't.

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Speaker 2: Guys is fighting to get the Eagles on Madden. They

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Speaker 2: so good, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I'm a piggyback offull of lossa He said, both

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Speaker 4: teams got a lot to gain and lose, But I'm

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Speaker 4: looking at this Kansas City situation that's in too much

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Speaker 4: self Uh. They have a lot to gain I think

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Speaker 4: to get ready for, because there's pretty much nobody in

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Speaker 4: the AFC that's gonna challenge them to win the AFC

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Speaker 4: get back to the to the super Bowl. For the Eagles,

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Speaker 4: I mean, everything is still up in the air because

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Speaker 4: you know, you still have a San Francisco team out

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Speaker 4: there that's that's pretty good. But from an AFC standpoint,

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Speaker 4: the playoffs to dethrone them and not have home field

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Speaker 4: Avengers and go to the playoffs. It just that conference

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Speaker 4: is is dominated by the Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: If Lamar, if Lamar Jackson stays healthy, I could see

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Speaker 5: the Ravens doing it and the Dolphin stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: I can see the Dolphins not physical enough.

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Speaker 5: I can see the Dolphins doing it. No, I can

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Speaker 4: I just don't see them. I just don't see them

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Speaker 4: going to Kansas City. I just don't see them going

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Speaker 4: to Kansas City Baltimore fall games. If Baltimore can stay healthy.

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Speaker 4: I know, not having Mark Andrews the rest of the

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Speaker 3: But the way Oobi, but the way the way ob

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Speaker 3: could overcome it if those two got Like Baltimore has

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Speaker 3: at the top of the AFC now competing with Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: And you now, what's gonna happen with the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: You know they fire Ken Door, can they can they

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Speaker 3: get back in the picture or are they just a

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Speaker 2: We don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think they hit their ceiling. I think they hit

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Speaker 2: I mean, it sucks for him, but he should have known.

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Speaker 3: Eventually, if Josh Allen keeps turning the ball over and

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Speaker 3: they keep losing games because of the offense, it happens.

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Speaker 3: But think about this, Ken Dorsey loses his job. But

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Speaker 3: in essence, if you had your callouts right, because we

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Speaker 3: all do. People that don't want call outs are Saturday

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Speaker 3: and the walk through. You do callouts. You just say

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Speaker 3: certain personnel groupings. Guys come on the field, guys walk

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Speaker 3: off the field. So how do you have twelve guys

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Speaker 3: on the field goal block team? You do that every week,

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Speaker 3: every single week. So so in essence, that ain't Ken

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Speaker 3: dorsey fault. That ain't Ken Dorsey's fault. Right, you do

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Speaker 3: call out, You do haulouts every single week, right man?

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Speaker 2: How do you blow that?

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen got Ken Dorsey fired?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my boy.

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Speaker 4: Blank, write it down, put it on whatever, whatever, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: you got your offensive coordinator fired. Hey, engratulations, And then

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Speaker 4: he said the next day they met, though the same

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Speaker 4: day he took it personally. Well you should, because Ken

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Speaker 4: Dorson is a hell of offensive coordinator. You keep turning

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Speaker 4: the football over being a Kamakazi throwing reckless passes on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you got you got fired?

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Speaker 3: Hey man, if they can do callouts the right way,

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Speaker 3: all they had to do is have eleven guys on

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Speaker 3: on Game that worked us. What's up baby? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 7: What's up? Fellas? How y'all doing? Man?

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Speaker 8: Light They y'all got the good red last night?

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Speaker 4: Oh cuffs Man, I've been I've been thinking about you lately.

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Speaker 2: You had, TJ. I've been thinking about you guys.

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Speaker 4: You know, we haven't really had the opportunity to speak basketball.

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ask one question.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you guys further elaborate on this state

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Speaker 4: of the loss andles Lakers. What the hell is going on.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, like that they won fo out

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Speaker 7: So I'm not right with the team black DJ. I

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Speaker 7: think what's happening there, Bro, These guys they have phones

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Speaker 7: just like us. They starting to hear their trade rumors. Man,

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Speaker 7: they starting to hear the rumblins. You know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: Even play twenty minutes the last game. He didn't play

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Speaker 7: I know, And I think what's happening is I think

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Speaker 7: got to come to work. Ad. You know, he's dealing

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Speaker 7: Lebron is still bron. But the thing I don't like

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Speaker 7: Lebron shouldn't be having to play like a cyborg every night.

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Speaker 7: It should he shouldn't have to carry.

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Speaker 4: The load like this, thirty forty minutes full Lebron at

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Speaker 7: Maybe ask you plaques like you're from Virginia, from North Carolina.

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Speaker 7: We had k Mart, right, you know k Mart?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 8: Look you should go to Kmart, right.

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Speaker 7: I don't know about y'all, but we weren't growing up,

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Speaker 7: I want to ask.

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Speaker 8: The Laker nation out here, you can choose any.

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Speaker 7: Christmas gift to put on Ledwey right now for this trade.

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Speaker 7: Do you want that? Do you want zack Levine? You

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Speaker 7: do you want Ales Russo? Or do you want two

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Speaker 3: This this is the thing, Cuz Damar Derozen needs the

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Speaker 3: And so that, to me will be very similar to

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Speaker 3: he leads you like, oh, he still can play. And

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Speaker 3: so Zach Levine is a slasheries extremely athletic, can shoot

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: And so if I had to take two of the three,

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Speaker 3: I would take Levine and Caruso. But I'm not giving

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Speaker 7: So you're saying, so you're saying, I agree with you.

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Speaker 7: I feel like Ruey Hottimore, he's underutilized. I feel like

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Speaker 7: Austin reads. I love Austin. You know he's coming here.

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Speaker 7: He's become like a novelty. He's up, He's become a

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Speaker 7: you can get a certified cooker like Levigne, Levin is

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Speaker 7: drop thirty or forty any given night. That's what.

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Speaker 2: If you can give up.

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Speaker 3: D'Angelo Russell gave Vincent and one more guy because the

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Speaker 4: But teacher, you will hang in your whole success on

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Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Lakers on d Angelo Russell if he

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Speaker 4: all the guys you just missing Caruso, Zach Levine, and DeRozan.

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Speaker 4: None of those two or those three guys are going

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Speaker 2: If they are. If Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 4: Can I say healthy, If all fifteen becomes a casualty,

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Speaker 4: Everybody jumped to jump the gun on this on this

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Speaker 4: the same exact thing they did last year. He's not

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Speaker 4: that kind of player. But what I'm saying is, if

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Speaker 4: you're the a Los Angeles Lakers and I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: this ross just like you said, cuff and you're healthy,

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Speaker 4: ad Hachie Moore has to stay on this team. And

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Speaker 4: what it looks like is Lebron's gonna have to carry

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Speaker 3: And that's why you get somebody like Levine because he

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Speaker 3: can score in bunches.

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Speaker 2: It's the thing, though.

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Speaker 4: He can score bunches, but he's not that effective of

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Speaker 3: The reason the Lakers have won for out of five

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Speaker 3: is because D'Angelo Russell is playing a lot better these

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Speaker 3: last five games. He's a big reason why the Lakers

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Speaker 3: I disagree with you on this.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that demart de Rozan has to have

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Speaker 4: shoot the ball fifteen eighteen footers in the mid range,

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Speaker 4: because that is the Martin Roses game.

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Speaker 2: But he does not. He does not have to have you.

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Speaker 2: He can be listen, he doesn't have the hell of

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Speaker 4: To get to eighteen football TJ.

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Speaker 3: He would prefer to set his shot up, get giving

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Speaker 3: That's how he plays, giving the ball at the elbow.

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Speaker 3: He gonna go to work.

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Speaker 7: And so I think Carusso, I think Carusso is that

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Speaker 7: making up these new terms. But Caruso, Caruso can move

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Speaker 7: the puffies. He can and D'Angelo Russell. My thing with

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Speaker 7: di Lo is this man. Yes, he's looked good, he's

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Speaker 7: looked good this year. He's he's destrivinging the ball, he's

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Speaker 7: hitting open shots, he's looking smooth out there. But my

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Speaker 7: powerhouse teams in the West until he does it against

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Speaker 7: the Nuggets. Until I see him do this against the Nuggets,

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Speaker 7: I don't believe him because he's always been this guy.

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Speaker 7: He plays good regular season basketball, but when the lights

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Speaker 7: he does not show up in certain moments, and I

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Speaker 7: think we are too deep into Bron's career to be

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Speaker 4: I'm also I'm also saying this man, the Lakers, they

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Speaker 4: with you, they never should have got rid of Caruso

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Speaker 4: and casenp in the first place.

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Speaker 7: Never Kyle Kuzm, Kyle Kuzman the same, You should have never.

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Speaker 2: Made the Rugbrook exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yo, you had a nucleus of guys that you won

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Speaker 4: those guys together. There was no need for you to

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Speaker 7: Well, here's here's the thought process, man. I know a

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Speaker 7: it is the same as it is now. What we're

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Speaker 7: seeing is Lebron is having to carry the team throughout

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Speaker 7: the regular season and it shouldn't be that way. So

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Speaker 7: when they win got Westbrook, the thought process was, Russ

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Speaker 7: can be a hogh useless guy. He can carry us

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Speaker 7: when Lebron is on the bench. It didn't work out, but.

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Speaker 8: Like Zach Levine can be that guy that can.

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Speaker 7: Give you thirty a night and Lebron doesn't have to

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Speaker 7: be your primary score every night. That's the point Lebron.

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Speaker 7: As we saw last night he had thirty five naasis

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Speaker 7: And I could tell you from the horse's mouth, Bron

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Speaker 7: of his career because by the time the playoffs come,

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Speaker 7: like you saw in the Webon Conference finals, he was

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 3: At this point. Ad is who he is. Let's let's

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Speaker 3: let's get into this. I'm just man. Talk to us

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Speaker 3: about uh, hey, talk talk to us. Hey, who is

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Speaker 3: uh He's talk to us about this? Michigan State spartan

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Speaker 3: by the name of Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Look, hey, look, I got a new nickname. Y'all everybody listening.

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Speaker 8: This is the nickname for.

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Speaker 7: Draymond is my homie. I know, Dre Draymond. I gotta

437
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Speaker 7: keep it real doing. I gotta keep it biking what

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Speaker 7: I do. Draymond his new name is he is the

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Speaker 7: saggingaw strangler.

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Speaker 2: Like that, Hey, nasty man.

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Speaker 7: To be real plaque, to be real plaque. I think

442
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 7: what we're seeing what Draymond is? You remember you used

443
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Speaker 7: to go to the basketball court and those old heads

444
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 7: be out there with the shirt off, and you know,

445
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 7: the sweaty back. They got the sweaty back and they

446
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 7: fucking up the game. Because he might not ever admit

447
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Speaker 7: this publicly, Draymond is one of the all time great defenders.

448
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Speaker 7: He's so versatile, can guardfire positions. But he's getting up

449
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Speaker 7: in age too, right, So what does normally do when

450
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Speaker 7: they get.

451
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Speaker 2: Up in age?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they started doing those old man tricks.

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Speaker 4: Charles No, no, no, the Rick Mahas and the Bill

454
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Speaker 4: and Bill's that's what he was watching with upper in Michigan.

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Speaker 7: But I just think Draymond is like his skin, those

456
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Speaker 7: are kind of diminiscing. So he had to do the

457
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Speaker 7: other stuff. He had to do, the Bill Lambert stuff.

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Speaker 4: Deca, Hey, please, my man, David, y'all get off of

459
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Speaker 4: my business.

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Speaker 2: State dude too. Hey.

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Speaker 4: You know what, you know what I love about it

462
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Speaker 4: most was after it happened and they interviewed him, he said,

463
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Speaker 4: you know what, it could have gotten a lot worse.

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Speaker 2: All right, Hey, come now, now, now.

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Speaker 7: That like the funny. The funniest thing was seeing Rudy

466
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Speaker 7: Gobert's facial expression is because he came out of nowhere

467
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 7: and just started stringling this guy. But you could tell

468
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Speaker 7: that was personally Draymond is being waiting for that moment with.

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Speaker 3: A Hey, why didn't Carl Why didn't Karl Anthony Towns

470
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Speaker 3: help his teammate out?

471
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Speaker 2: Why didn't Karl Anthony town sep team out out?

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you said that. TJ called Anthony Towns who

473
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Speaker 7: I call the towns of Karl Anthony. He is the

474
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Speaker 7: softest player in the NBA. Bro oh who he is?

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Speaker 9: Soft?

476
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Speaker 7: Man like him?

477
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Speaker 2: Standing behind Draymond.

478
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Speaker 7: Can we talk about what's really happening with the Golden

479
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 7: State Warriors? They lost five games in a row.

480
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Speaker 2: I on my podcast plays off right now.

481
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like Klay Thompson, he might be he

482
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Speaker 7: might be medium washed right now. Man, I hate to

483
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Speaker 7: say he might be medium washed. And I say this

484
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Speaker 7: on my show the other day. Even though he's medium washed,

485
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Speaker 7: the LA Lakers should still looking to getting Klay Thompson.

486
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Speaker 7: You know his dad played for the.

487
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Speaker 3: Less all the wide open shots playing with us. Let's

488
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Speaker 3: go get rid of him Golden State. Yeah, he'll have

489
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Speaker 3: nothing wide open shots.

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Speaker 8: Clay Thompson, you can come to l a next year

491
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Speaker 8: and you can beat.

492
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Speaker 4: My oh all recruiting already.

493
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

494
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Speaker 7: The Golden State Warriors, I feel like their their window

495
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 7: has closed because they don't have enough size. Like Kaminga

496
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 7: is starting to blossom, Moody, he's starting to blossom. The

497
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Speaker 7: young guys are playing well, but their guys are just

498
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 7: too old. Man Clay, he can't move the puppies no more.

499
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Speaker 7: He used to be one of the top two or

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Speaker 7: three you know, three, D, three and D guys in

501
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 7: the league. He's one dimensional. Everything is. They're banking everything

502
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Speaker 7: on Steff right now. I come to feel bad and

503
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 7: stuff because you know, he's having to carry the low

504
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Speaker 7: more than he ever had. He shouldn't be having to

505
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Speaker 7: do this the same way bron shouldn't be having to

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Speaker 7: do this at the stage of their careers.

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Speaker 3: Well, they having to do it. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: They'll figure it out. Cuffs, Bro, we appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 3: Man always a pleasure, Cuffs the legend. Make sure, yes,

510
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: appreciate y'all. Sure make sure that some dude chowing up

511
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Speaker 3: on Game Network you're listening to it and you can

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Speaker 3: get that him at Cuffs the let once again appreciate

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Speaker 3: you cuffs, Thank you bro.

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Speaker 7: Any timer love baby.

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Speaker 3: Now we gotta get to our guy. Isaac loyncrin I

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Speaker 3: low with the updates.

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Speaker 10: All right, let's stir with number three Michigan fellas. They

518
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Speaker 10: have a twenty three to ten lead at Maryland, one

519
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Speaker 10: fifty nine left to play in the second quarter. Two

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Speaker 10: rushing touchdowns by Blake Koram. He now has twenty rushing

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Speaker 10: touchdowns this season. Michigan has also scored a defensive touchdown

522
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Speaker 10: third and ten tongue of Bylow back to pass Michigan

523
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Speaker 10: beings ofplits.

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Speaker 2: He's in trouble in downygoes.

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00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: Football comes out scooped up, Maryland native Derek.

526
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Speaker 10: Moore picks it up and walks it into the end zone.

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Speaker 1: Touchdown Lorenes.

528
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Speaker 2: The Michigan defense.

529
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Speaker 5: Has gotten on the board a four yard touchdown return.

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Speaker 10: The call on WWJ and Michigan also scored on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Snap is good and the kick is blocked.

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Speaker 10: It's Christian blay Man and Singaporea kicks it out of

533
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Speaker 10: the back of the end zone and Michigan gets two points.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 10: Elsewhere in a non conference game, eighth ranked Alabama leads

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Speaker 10: Chattanooga thirty eight to seven at halftime, Miami up twenty

537
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Speaker 10: one to fourteen over tenth ranked Louisville fifty nine seconds

538
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Speaker 10: left to play in the second quarter, and at halftime,

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Speaker 10: twelfth ranked Penn State has a ten to six lead

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Speaker 10: over Rutgers. Also in a non cut out.

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Speaker 7: God, oh oh, why is it that I literally never

542
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Speaker 7: get text messages ever except for during this show?

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Speaker 10: Hang on, Isaac, don't you think you also should play

544
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 10: the highlight of the Penn State touchdown? And then there's

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Speaker 10: a fist emoji? Really was the fist emoji necessary? I'll

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Speaker 10: play the highlight.

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 5: I'm the near hash attacking the soath ben zone to

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Speaker 5: our right, going into the student section from the two

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Speaker 5: K tron, Allen bounce his left.

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Speaker 1: Side to the ball, eye touchtop pens.

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Speaker 10: Call on WQWK. Happy now.

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Speaker 2: Happy now, Yeah, he's happy? All right?

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Speaker 1: He seems a little happy.

555
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Speaker 2: Valley.

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Speaker 10: It seems a little stoic right now.

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Speaker 3: They struggling. That's why it's a struggles. It's a struggle.

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Speaker 10: I don't blame I understand. Number thirteen Ole miss at

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Speaker 10: a non conference game of seven to three halftime lead

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Speaker 10: over Louisiana Monroe, fourteenth ranked Oklahoma up seventeen to fourteen

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Speaker 10: at BYU forty one seconds left to play in the

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Speaker 10: second quarter, and at halftime number twenty four to two,

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Speaker 10: lane of fourteen to nothing lead at Florida Atlantic, and

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Speaker 10: last but not least, Michigan State a fourteen to seven

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Speaker 10: lead at Indiana two seconds left to play second quarter.

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Speaker 10: They go out in front on a twenty nine yard

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Speaker 10: touchdown reception by a Montory Foster. All yours, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's pull up for the Spartans man. They

569
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: can get out this little rut that they in. Hey,

570
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: let's stay plexuston NBA man James Harden finally gets trade

571
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: to the Clippers. They can't seem to win a game

572
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: with him in the lineup, and then Russell Westbrook goes

573
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Speaker 3: as Tyron Lewin says, you know what, at least is

574
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Speaker 3: what's been reported. I'll come off the bench. I'll be

575
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Speaker 3: the sixth man. They get their first win last night

576
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Speaker 3: against Houston. James Harden hit the three that pretty much

577
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: sealed the deal. But Westbrook only plays seventeen minutes. Are

578
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: we gonna have a problem on our hands?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I honestly believe that the difference

580
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 4: between Russell Westbrook and James Harden is that Russell Westbrook

581
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Speaker 4: understands the situation that he is in and he doesn't

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Speaker 4: have an ego as James Harden ass, so he can

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Speaker 4: be a grown man about his profession and understands and

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Speaker 4: knows where he is exactly at his in his career,

585
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Speaker 4: and he says, you know what, I'm just gonna come

586
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Speaker 4: off the bench and still be effective. So I can

587
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: take all of this nonsense out of what everybody is

588
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: saying and let James gonna play basketball, because you know what,

589
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 4: that is tough and hard enough on a man, especially

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Speaker 4: Russell Westbrook, who's gonna be a first bell of Hall

591
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Speaker 4: of Fame, who's basically averaging of triple double for his

592
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Speaker 4: career for him to take the back seat and say,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna let James play, let him start,

594
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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna come off the bench. So that tells

595
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 4: me that you guys are not going to have a

596
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: problem moving for if you have lost Angeles slippers, because

597
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: he's already stepped to the forefront and you know, said

598
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: these things about himself and where he thinks he is at.

599
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: But you know, I just wherever James Harden goes Man

600
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: and I love James Man, it just seems that it

601
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 4: just doesn't work out as far as him getting closer

602
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Speaker 4: to a championship. And I think everything is going to

603
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: his career and everything that he's done has been nothing

604
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Speaker 4: but magnificent. But he gets to the playoffs and he

605
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Speaker 4: just does not show up outside of that first that

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Speaker 4: game one game in Boston when and B was out

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Speaker 4: and he goes to forty five, and what's saying to

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Speaker 4: I said, Okay, he's ready to take the next step

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Speaker 4: as being a great player that we have seen in

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Speaker 4: this league. And you get to the game six and

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Speaker 4: you let the Boston Celtics out of the door with

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Speaker 4: a read two lead, get Gay five yet Game five

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Speaker 4: and Boston Celtics in the in the NBA Finals, And

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Speaker 4: I think that's one of the things that's always want

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Speaker 4: to go with him. But I think if you the

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Speaker 4: Los Angeles Slippers, you didn't get closer to winning a

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Speaker 4: championship or competing for a championship in the Western Conference

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Speaker 4: just because you got James Harden.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing, though, plex is this when Russell

620
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Speaker 3: Westbrook is putting the team first, you gotta understand we

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Speaker 3: all have emotions when you play seventeen minutes. If I

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Speaker 3: go to the coach and say I'm willing to come

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Speaker 3: off the bench, and I'm sure Tylu said, okay, I

624
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Speaker 3: appreciate it. You know, he still assumes he's going to

625
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Speaker 3: get his minutes, just in a different form. And now

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Speaker 3: you're not playing as much as you used to. I

627
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Speaker 3: don't care who you are. That's gonna bother you. And

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Speaker 3: so they gonna have to figure out a way to

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Speaker 3: manage the ego. Although I can be team first, I

630
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Speaker 3: still have an ego. And so all these guys have egos.

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Speaker 3: All these guys, when I say all these guys, Paul

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Speaker 3: George Kawhi, Leonard James Hard and Russell Westbrook have all

633
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Speaker 3: been the guy. And so they better manage the egos

634
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Speaker 3: because this can go off the rails really really fast.

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Speaker 3: We'll see how Tyron Lou does it. This is what

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Speaker 3: he's getting paid to do. It's gonna be interesting. We

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Speaker 3: gotta take a break, but it's gonna be interesting how

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Speaker 3: they manage this the rest of the season. Seventeen minutes,

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Speaker 3: and you know, he didn't speak to the media. He

640
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: walked right out the locker room. So that just tells

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00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 3: you right there, Westbrook was pissed off. He walked straight out.

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Speaker 2: The locker room.

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Speaker 3: Then he speak to the media, so he don't like it.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see how this goes the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: We'll be right back man up on Game Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 3: dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: I'm TJ.

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Speaker 3: Houshman's out alongside Plexico Burrs and LaVar Arrington. Appreciate you

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Speaker 3: guys locking in tuning in with us this show. We

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Speaker 3: have Rhett Butler from Pretty Left Hook podcasting up on

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Speaker 3: Game Network. It was a I wouldn't say it was

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Speaker 3: a big fight or even a good fight.

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Speaker 2: This past Thursday night.

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Speaker 3: I watched every single round.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I let Rhett discuss that Shakira Stevenson and Edwin Della

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Speaker 3: Santo's fight.

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Speaker 2: Rhtt. First, I appreciate you joining us. Man.

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Speaker 7: How you doing, man, I'm good, TJ. Good plaques.

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Speaker 9: You know what it is, man boxing? It they trying,

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Speaker 9: you know, we gotta give him a little slack. TJ

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Speaker 9: know we had a bad night, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I'm what was your take on the fight?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was no punches thrown really the whole

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Speaker 3: I mean, twelve rounds. It was worse than a sparring session.

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Speaker 9: That's true. I mean this was actually a record. De

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Speaker 9: los Santos only landed forty punches over the twelve round fight,

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Speaker 9: and that's a new record, folks. I mean, over twelve rounds.

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Speaker 9: Nobody's ever landed that low. Ever, he only threw and

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Speaker 9: he threw three to sixteen, so that's crazy. But at

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Speaker 9: the end of the day, you know, Chakor got to

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Speaker 9: win his WBC champ. Obviously, we know that Devin Haney

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Speaker 9: is the champ in recess for WBC in a lightweight division,

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Speaker 9: but he's.

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Speaker 7: Moved up to fight Reis pro Gray.

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Speaker 9: But cha course, here we always knew he was headhunting,

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Speaker 9: trying to get into the ranks with Devin and with Tank.

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Speaker 9: But that right there, that fight is going to definitely

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Speaker 9: bring his stock down financially. When those future negotiations do

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Speaker 9: you do.

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Speaker 3: You feel like it was just too much respect both ways,

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Speaker 3: because that's oh, he came for a track meet. I

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Speaker 3: came to fight. This is what he said about Shakira.

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Speaker 3: But de los Angtos, you could have forced a fight,

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Speaker 3: You could have cut off the ring, you could have

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Speaker 3: thrown more punches. It felt like both fighters respected each

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Speaker 3: other so much, or maybe they respected each other's power

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Speaker 3: and Shakira is not known as a power partner that

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Speaker 3: they were afraid to really just let loose and throw.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna throw it back to twenty sixteen Real Dijioniro

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Speaker 9: Olympics when Cha course Stevenson had a very similar performance

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Speaker 9: against Rabci Ramirez. Some people thought, well, he can't. He

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Speaker 9: doesn't do well against Cubans. Obviously, Edwin Delos Santos was

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Speaker 9: a Dominican. But I believe that Shakor he says he

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Speaker 9: was hurt. He wasn't feeling his best, is what he said,

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Speaker 9: and I hurt. He said he wasn't feeling his best.

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Speaker 9: I believe he was being way too cautious. He didn't

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Speaker 9: want to take any chances because whatever was going on

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Speaker 9: with him. He said, I'm gonna to the safe fight

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Speaker 9: went off points, and unfortunately for him, it just brought

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Speaker 9: his stock down with the fans because they bowed consistently

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Speaker 9: through twelve rounds.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Man, if you're gonna go

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Speaker 4: into a boxing match, man, you going to the fight.

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Speaker 4: And I thought that, you know, he didn't want to

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Speaker 4: really you know, facilitate hisself, and it was basically a

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Speaker 4: practice or a sparring match, because everybody knows the fight

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Speaker 4: that we want to see between him and Avante Davis,

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Speaker 4: whoever goes up or down to get into that weight division.

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Speaker 4: But I just thought it was a money grab and

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Speaker 4: a practice fight for him moving forward. And I'm not

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Speaker 4: a fan of it at all, and how much you

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Speaker 4: Cosse Stevens a fan, but for him to go out

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Speaker 4: there last night and to put the performance that he

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Speaker 4: did in front of all these people and to that magnitude, man,

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Speaker 4: I just don't agree with it. But I thought, hope

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Speaker 4: moving forward that he's getting better as a fighter because

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Speaker 4: everybody knows the fight that we want to see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, man, it was.

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Speaker 2: We got no, no, no, we have thirty seconds. It

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Speaker 2: was lad Rat.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you joining us, but Shakeure gotta do better

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Speaker 3: if you want to secure big money fights. That's Rep.

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Speaker 3: Butler Pretty Left Hook. I'm TJ Housh Mazada. That's Plasco

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Speaker 3: Burris and LaVar Arrington up on Game. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you locking in. We'll see everything next Saturday. Ratt,

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Speaker 3: thank you for joining us. Cup the Legends, thanks for

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Speaker 3: joining us. Fox Sports Radio up on Game. We'll see

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Speaker 3: you next week.