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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 2: Now your hosts Votch Lombardy, Nick Harris, Bobby Belt, Tommy

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Speaker 2: Yarish and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, January sixth, and we are one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seven days away from the twenty twenty six NFL

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Speaker 3: Draft in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Welcome into the first episode of

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Speaker 3: new crew for the twenty twenty six draft process and

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Speaker 3: we are excited to investigate and educate all the way

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Speaker 3: through the NFL Draft, providing wall to wall coverage coming

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Speaker 3: up in late April. We've got Wotch Lombardi, Nick Harris,

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Speaker 3: Tommy Yarish and Bobby Belt. I'm Kyle Yeomans with Chris

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Speaker 3: Bean working everything in the back. Glad you're with us, gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to draft season. Feels like a long time coming,

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Speaker 3: but hey, we are back and we are ready to roll.

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris, welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Bud, Yeah, thank you man.

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Speaker 5: I am an excited roll you know, we haven't been

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Speaker 5: on the show since the Micaeh Parsons trade, obviously, and

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Speaker 5: just having the idea of two first round picks this year,

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Speaker 5: there's gonna be so much fun that we're gonna be

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Speaker 5: able to talk about all the possibilities. Now, we might

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Speaker 5: be doing nothing on day two, but day one, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have a lot.

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Speaker 6: Of podcasts.

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Speaker 3: That Day two, Voch is going to take forever.

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Speaker 7: Well, Vach isn't gonna be here. Vach's gonna go outside

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Speaker 7: and vacuum the carpet. I'm gonna ask if y'all need

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Speaker 7: snacks or something like that. I don't want to just

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Speaker 7: sit around and talk at the cowboys don't have picks,

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Speaker 7: But we got a job to do.

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Speaker 6: Got a job to do.

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Speaker 7: The part of the job and this thing is to

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of study two hundred and fifty some

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Speaker 7: other people. So we're gonna come here with no picks

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Speaker 7: on day two and be miserable. Boy, Day one is

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Speaker 7: gonna be a party.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing is you got to kind of

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Speaker 3: evaluate differently, Bobby, when you have such a big gap

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Speaker 3: in terms of what you're picking in because cowboys picking

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Speaker 3: twice in the first then you don't have a second,

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Speaker 3: you don't have a third, do you You still have

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Speaker 3: to evaluate those guys, but it's in a different light

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Speaker 3: than you normally have in the past.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you gotta kind of evaluate more generally.

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Speaker 8: But I mean the other aspect, there's just you've got

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Speaker 8: to evaluate them from the perspective of Dallas. Do they

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Speaker 8: take something with that second first round pick. Do they

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Speaker 8: try to move back, do they add capital, do they

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Speaker 8: do something of that? They've moved back a couple different

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Speaker 8: times in recent years, and so I mean you just

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Speaker 8: gotta have be braced for that as well, just the

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Speaker 8: idea of like, hey, they're gonna be picking early in

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Speaker 8: the second round instead of late in the first. Are

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Speaker 8: they gonna have a second move back, because I think

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Speaker 8: they definitely by the time the draft rolls around, if

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Speaker 8: they have not you done a heavy lifting in free agency,

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Speaker 8: they're gonna need extra capital on draft day.

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Speaker 9: No, that's absolutely right, And I think as it stands

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Speaker 9: right now, you can't look at this team and with

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Speaker 9: all the holes that they have, especially on the defensive

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Speaker 9: side of the ball, and say their two first round

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Speaker 9: picks away from being better. Sure, free agency is gonna

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Speaker 9: play a big part in it. But as it stands

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Speaker 9: right now, I don't think you can hurt whatsoever from

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Speaker 9: move back, whether it be you trade your first round

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Speaker 9: pick up a third or something like that. For any

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Speaker 9: any way you can get a Day two pick I

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Speaker 9: think is going to benefit you, especially in this class

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Speaker 9: where at least early on, it seems like you don't

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Speaker 9: have as much of the high end talent, and you

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Speaker 9: do have kind of a larger pool of second third

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Speaker 9: are probably not going to be guys that you want

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you mentioned the free agency point because I

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Speaker 5: think you can be two players away when Draft A

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Speaker 5: it may be. I think you can be two players

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Speaker 10: That is only if you you address the other needs in.

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Speaker 6: Free time sometime. No, no, no, no, don't say no.

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Speaker 7: Don't say no because we're we were too friendly last year.

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Speaker 7: I went back. I went back and watched the tape. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I understand we was rookies solf scouting, but we gotta

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Speaker 7: fight a little bit, fight them, Timmy, Why why why

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Speaker 7: aren't we just two players away to.

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Speaker 3: Talk to him?

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Speaker 4: No, look at him, don't look at me, look at

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Speaker 4: I agree with you, Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 6: You don't agree fight him?

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Speaker 7: Do you think we can win with with two knockouts

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Speaker 6: You think we need a lot more? I should trade

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Speaker 6: back and get more dudes?

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Speaker 9: Tell him why I think if you don't, sorry, if

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Speaker 9: you don't want to address your other needs in free agency,

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Speaker 9: if you don't address your other needs and free agency.

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Speaker 10: You are not You're not two players away on.

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Speaker 7: Them because I'm with Nick a little bit right, Like,

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Speaker 7: I don't want the four all right, I got four

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Speaker 7: cool guys, right, I want the best possible dude I

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Speaker 7: can get at twelve. Hopefully, hopefully he's one of them.

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Speaker 7: M efforts and this is something that happens in draft

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Speaker 7: every single year because teams suck at drafting. Good dudes

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Speaker 7: fall for whatever reason. Oh he got short arms, Oh

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Speaker 7: he's a corner. All all the corners we like, they

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Speaker 7: always end up falling in the twenties. You mean to

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Speaker 7: They always end up in the twenties for whatever. I

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Speaker 7: don't know why. Maybe Bobby can tell us why trends

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Speaker 7: like one sixty. But what I'm saying is is if

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Speaker 7: league does this thing where position value has in one

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Speaker 7: and you get a dude at twenty, I think you

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Speaker 8: You are. First, you have to just identify, like, given

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Speaker 8: right now, you gotta figure out how many starters do

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Speaker 8: you need right now? Or starting caliber players for instance,

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Speaker 8: Donovan Azeraku is a starting caliber at dresser. You still

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Speaker 8: probably need three more right now, especially with the way

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Speaker 8: they rotate those defensive linemen. So all right, Clowning's out

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Speaker 8: of contract. You're gonna try to bring him back, But

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Speaker 8: right now that is a and an empty spot where

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Speaker 8: you need a starter. If you resign him, okay, well

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Speaker 8: now you need two starting edge caliber players. So I

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Speaker 8: think when you look at it, the trouble is that

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Speaker 8: you are probably you're gonna bring back Pickens. You've got

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Speaker 8: you're probably two holes on offense right now. Minimum if

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Speaker 8: you don't make any cap cuts and you're seven starters

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Speaker 8: roughly that you need to acquire on defense, starting caliber players,

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Speaker 8: and you can do that. You just have to be

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Speaker 8: willing to spend on starting caliber players in a way

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Speaker 3: Sure, do you feel like they're in the spot Nick

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Speaker 3: to do something like that to spin like you haven't

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Speaker 3: in the past. Maybe you showed a little bit of

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Speaker 3: that last year. It was mostly trades though too. It

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Speaker 3: things like that that they thought would work. Are they

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Speaker 3: three million projected over the cap.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna have to be very decisive.

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Speaker 5: Now they are thirty three in the red, but they

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Speaker 5: could very well be as much as sixty in the

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Speaker 5: green by the time free agency rolls around. You know,

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Speaker 5: we think about some of these cuts that they couldn't make.

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Speaker 5: Terrence Steele is one of them. Logan Wilson's another one.

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Speaker 5: The Kenny Clark contract is definitely gonna have to be

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Speaker 4: Restructures for Dad and CD I think are possible.

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Speaker 5: And when you look at all those options, I think

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Speaker 5: they can go into free agency, you know, with with

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Speaker 5: a pretty penny. And you know, Jerry was talking to

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Speaker 5: and said, we feel like we can make as dramatic

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Speaker 5: as a difference this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Than we have in a really long time. Now.

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Speaker 5: Is that just Jerry speak or do they actually feel

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Speaker 5: like they had the potential there? You know, that's two

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Speaker 5: different conversations. But just to have that comment out there

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Speaker 5: leads me to believe that they think they will have

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Speaker 5: the cap flexibility to be.

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Speaker 6: Able to do so.

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Speaker 8: I will say, though, too, to your point, Steele is

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Speaker 8: a decent amount of savings. That's somebody they've clearly not

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Speaker 8: think that some of the discussion about him has been

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Speaker 8: than the narrative that exists about him. But the idea

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Speaker 8: of like, yeah, you can get that cap flexibility, but

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Speaker 8: now you're talking about right, well, that's another starter. Now

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Speaker 8: now you've got another opening, So like you got to

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Speaker 8: start weighing how much does that eight million pre June one, fourteen?

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Speaker 8: I think post June one, how much is that money

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Speaker 8: worth versus creating another hole where it's like, now you

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Speaker 8: have to go find another starting caliber player and free

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Speaker 8: agency or whatever else with no second or third round

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Terry Steel conversation, I think it's going to

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Speaker 5: be one we have a million times.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be one of the biggest factors.

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Speaker 3: Right and you It could decide whether or not you're

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Speaker 3: going to spend a first round pick on an offensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: It could be because you're you're probably not going to

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Speaker 3: find a replacement unless you're moving guys around in the

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Speaker 3: fourth or fifth round. That tackle. You've talked about that before, Viser.

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Speaker 3: They've spent so many first round picks on offensive linemen.

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Speaker 3: You might need an offensive tackle. But right now, are

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Speaker 3: you pigeonholed so much into needing defensive talent that you

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Speaker 3: can't even look at guys like that the same way

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Speaker 3: as you would of another draft.

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Speaker 7: I think you can always look because it's always room

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Speaker 7: to get better. Like we just say, you know, free

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Speaker 7: acy or whatever. But and you know, people on Twitter

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Speaker 7: and the chat may not like this, but I could

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Speaker 7: live with Tarror Steel or Nay Times as my right

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Speaker 7: tackle because you would just a top five offense with

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Speaker 7: those guys playing tackle for you, right, So I don't

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Speaker 7: consider tackling the merse When I'm thinking about Terrence. It's

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Speaker 7: his money, right So like yeah, like yay, Terrence, rub

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Speaker 7: your back? Hey Terrence, can it gets for a little

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Speaker 6: And you're gonna get a new defensive coaches.

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Speaker 7: While I dressed up today, You're gonna have a new

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Is that why you're dressed up? You're interviewing for the

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Speaker 7: I'm dressed up and look, I don't hate brother Flues, man,

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Speaker 7: I said, oh twee gonna win next year, and I

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Speaker 7: what I mean? Besides that of the flues Man, you

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Speaker 3: Up, Tommy, how does that move effect what we might

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Speaker 9: It certainly makes you kind of pause right now in

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Speaker 10: Regardless of position.

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Speaker 9: And then when the process comes to a close and

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Speaker 9: to immediately turn into okay, what kind of pieces fit

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Speaker 9: So a lot of it since with Matt Eberflus it

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Speaker 3: And the Cowboys just released a statement, by the way,

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Speaker 3: And that's from Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 7: I mean, do we send one of those, you know,

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Speaker 6: One of those?

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Speaker 8: Did as was a his contract was an expired one too,

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Speaker 11: One of those.

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Speaker 7: New team We ain't gotta We ain't gotta make public

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: The question would be, did Mike Zimmer get one?

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Speaker 6: Who cares?

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Speaker 7: What's your what's your wating, your ink printing that stuff

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Speaker 7: You did your thing, and we talking about draft right

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Speaker 7: now because of you play. I love what what Dak said,

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Speaker 7: like like this is the draft show. Pardon me, but

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Speaker 7: we topped what five? You know what I'm saying. That

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Speaker 7: just kind of let me know, like, hey, it's all

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Speaker 7: on defense. So draft show wise, right, you know Tommy said,

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Speaker 3: In the draft, when it comes to Matty Reflus now

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Speaker 8: So, I mean, obviously we're going to see how they

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Speaker 8: as we evaluate things. I think similarly, they think very

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Speaker 8: for them to how are you gonna make Savone Revel work?

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Speaker 8: Because he's here, he's big capital that we've invested. He's

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Speaker 8: got to work. Tell me how you're gonna do it?

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Speaker 8: You know, we really love to Marvin Overshown, how are

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Speaker 3: To, kind of take a couple of those names and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think if we're looking at you know, specifically,

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Speaker 5: you know, focusing on guys who specialize in front seven.

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Speaker 5: You've invested so much of the defensive tackle spot and

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Speaker 5: you have an edge group that the new coordinator can

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Speaker 5: You have Donovan Azeraku under contract, you have James Houston

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Speaker 4: That is it.

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Speaker 5: You can bring back at Jadavian Clowney, or you could

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Speaker 5: go and get one of these, you know, awesome pass

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Speaker 5: Ruben Bain. I know we're gonna talk about him quite

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Speaker 5: this group that I think could make sense in this

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Speaker 4: I think I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I just think you could also make the case that,

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Speaker 9: I think, really what you have to look for in

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Speaker 10: Gonna be our bread and butter. We're gonna do.

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Speaker 9: The same things and maybe maybe not simplify is the

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Speaker 9: you can't adapt, if you can't change, I think offenses

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Speaker 8: I will say, you got to make sure you're They

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Speaker 5: Nante Fowler yesterday I caught him in the locker room

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 5: I don't care how good you think your scheme is.

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Speaker 5: You have to evolve around your players, take your players'

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Speaker 7: So, Kyle, Bobby, Tommy, Nick, how many how many players

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Speaker 6: Because we need seven starts? Six seven starters?

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Speaker 10: Right?

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Speaker 7: How many dudes are on this team? Sorry, Boby? How

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Speaker 7: But flues made them look weird?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 8: Like no one had a better year.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying is what nobody got better.

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Speaker 12: No.

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Speaker 7: Dante Folo went from a double digit SAT guy to

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Speaker 7: all right, I'm barely getting on the field seven what

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Speaker 8: Which he did. He did tell Nick yesterday he had

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Speaker 7: Sure Mayor's Leafil was a guy that they was ready

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Speaker 6: On the field. Now, how many dudes wrong?

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Speaker 7: Because we're thinking, oh, we got so many holes, we

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Speaker 8: not that bad. It's not as bad as it performed

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Speaker 8: I think another coach coming in here probably helps Kaitlin Carson,

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Speaker 8: probably helps Revel I would imagine helps Malie Hooker. And

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Speaker 8: so I mean, like, I think there are guys on

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Speaker 8: or just somebody else communicating them different because it was

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Speaker 8: clear Mattyberflus had trouble communicating with players.

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Speaker 5: It was one guy that got better, Ready Stewart, Ready Stuart,

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Speaker 5: but he was not here last.

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Speaker 3: You could say the same thing about Jadavian Clowney, same thing.

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Speaker 3: Late edition didn't even show up for training camp. And

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Speaker 3: those are the two guys who had better seasons as you.

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Speaker 8: Went along, I'm keeping I'm keeping Ready Stewart next year.

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Speaker 8: I think he's he's kind of a player, kind of want.

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Speaker 3: To play him in safety though a little bit put

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Speaker 4: He looked interesting against Denver in that role.

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Speaker 8: But I just want to I want to experiment a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, tackling a couple of things there, all right. When

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Speaker 6: Sophomore campaign. Welcome back the show.

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris. This is year three, Year three after a

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Speaker 3: strong sophomore campaign yourself, so after back for your junior year.

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Speaker 3: It's also a sophomore campaign for Tommy yarsh.

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Speaker 10: Re signed my nil deal yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice watch and I.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, big Pap, big pain.

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Speaker 3: He was holding out for a bigger contract. One of

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Speaker 7: Timy No matter what gets your money? Get your money

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Speaker 3: Did Texas Tech call you at all to try and

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Speaker 3: up the deal at all?

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Speaker 10: They did, But loyalty means something.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't play Texas.

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Speaker 3: Pour quarterback.

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Speaker 6: That was a war all the time. You when I missed?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Texas Tech their draft Podcastleman, what yeah the

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Speaker 3: draft nuts out in Lubbock. Really yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that wasn't enough. I like so bad.

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Speaker 7: Tommy's saying nothing by no laws having the bread is

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Speaker 7: what time?

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Speaker 6: You see?

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Speaker 3: He said? He said they ponied up.

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Speaker 4: Tommy can be bought like Middlan oil Venezuela oil.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe we had that reference here, Bobby. What

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Speaker 3: year is this for you? Is this four or five?

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Speaker 8: Five? I don't know. I've not I've not been present

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Speaker 8: for Day three the last two years. Last year I

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Speaker 3: Was just you were just not here. I was chilling mentally.

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Speaker 8: Klan Robinson just really threw me off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going going to Jacksonville out of Texas. Good

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Speaker 3: running back. Uh, you're seven for me. Glad to have

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Speaker 3: you on the draft show. It is our first segment

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Speaker 3: number two, which, of course by tradition, we answer fan questions.

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Speaker 3: I have the tweet out there right now. Go ahead

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Speaker 3: and go send your fan questions in if you want it.

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Speaker 3: But it's time for some twitter.

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Speaker 8: Up.

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Speaker 3: Chris By mid season four m on the Sounder. All right.

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Speaker 3: First one comes from Matthew. He says, when it comes

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Speaker 3: to edge rusher, Dallas struggled to get pressure all season long.

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Speaker 3: Is edg rusher at the top of the list, And

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Speaker 3: are there some first round guys that you could possibly

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Speaker 3: look at? Yes?

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I think edge is your biggest need defensively right now,

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Speaker 9: Vegas need, I think so. I think when I look

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Speaker 9: at this, if your defense is what it was last year,

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Speaker 9: where you give up five hundred and eleven points and

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Speaker 9: you're stacking needs in the draft where you haven't made

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Speaker 9: any moves in free agency, absolutely, pass rush is most

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Speaker 9: important thing for me. I think backwards right, I think

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Speaker 9: defensive tackle you're good, so I go pass rusher, linebacker,

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Speaker 9: corner safety. From there, I think it all starts with

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Speaker 9: if you affect a quarterback. It certainly makes things different.

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Speaker 9: As for first round as it could be there, Absolutely,

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Speaker 9: I think we already mentioned Ruben Bain as a guy

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Speaker 9: that could be there. I find it very difficult to

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Speaker 9: believe as it stands right now, that he can get

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Speaker 9: all the way down to twelve. Oh he'll make But

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Speaker 9: what about David Bailey from Texas Tech. He's been my

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Speaker 9: favorite pass rusher that I've watched so far, just unbelievably

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Speaker 9: explosive off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 10: He recks the game.

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Speaker 9: And I think he played really well in the College

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Speaker 9: Football Playoff two. So some of that recent tape was

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Speaker 9: really good against some better competition. But you know, we'll

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Speaker 9: get into some more guys after that, but I think

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Speaker 9: it starts with with those two ast guys that stick

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Speaker 9: out to me.

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Speaker 5: And I will say, I don't think there's as many

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Speaker 5: top end talent guys as there has been in these.

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Speaker 4: Last couple of drafts.

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Speaker 8: I agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I think there's more like the middle pack.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you know, top one hundred, bottom into top one hundred.

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Speaker 5: But the Cowboys getting that number twelve pick I think

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Speaker 5: will help them a lot here if they do try

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Speaker 5: to swing for an edge, because the only guys I

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Speaker 5: really could point to that I think could make sense

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Speaker 5: at twelve as of today, Ruben Bain, David Bailey, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm not throwing cash As Howell in that conversation.

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Speaker 4: I'm not throwing Keldric Falk or TJ. Parker I like

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Speaker 4: a lot. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if I'm yes, yes, yes, Keldrick Falk

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Speaker 5: from Auburn, Cashus Hall, Texas A and M David Bailey,

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Speaker 5: Texas Tech t J.

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Speaker 4: Parker from Clemson.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm throwing him in that conversation

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Speaker 5: just yet, but I think I could. But that's that's

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Speaker 5: probably it as far as it when it comes to

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Speaker 5: edge guys, but it's I would make the case for

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Speaker 5: linebacker personally. I do think you need I think there's

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Speaker 5: really good linebackers in this class, especially this top fifteen

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Speaker 5: top twenty range. I think you can go get one

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Speaker 5: that is super unique, whether it be a Sunny Styles

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Speaker 5: or rvel Reech from Ohio State or a CJ. Allen

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Speaker 5: from Georgia who I think may end up being my

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Speaker 5: linebacker one.

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Speaker 4: I love CJ.

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Speaker 5: Allen, but I think there's gonna be some guys there

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Speaker 5: in that top fifteen that you would really rather swing

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Speaker 5: at at linebacker that I think could give you more

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Speaker 5: production immediately than some of these EDGs.

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Speaker 7: You know, Nick, you said something and it just put

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Speaker 7: a little put a little hurt on my soul because

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Speaker 7: every single year.

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Speaker 8: Let's fight no look at him when you say it.

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Speaker 7: Every single year there's always this group of dudes that's

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Speaker 7: in the cowboy range. And I like them a lot,

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Speaker 7: but it's always one guy that I have to trust

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Speaker 7: that please, cowboys don't take this guy.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: So I've seen a lot of you know, boards or

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Speaker 7: whatever with Kelvin Falk and TJ. Parker up there right.

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Speaker 7: I think they're second round guys. I honestly think that

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Speaker 7: their second round guys. But how the lead tend to

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Speaker 7: work and how the cowboy the cowboys love measurable. They

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Speaker 7: love big, long arm guys or whatever, and they don't

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Speaker 7: typically go for the shorter arm dudes, right, So this

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Speaker 7: is something that I wish just I just wish that

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Speaker 7: this just doesn't happen. We just talking about edges right now,

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Speaker 7: fuking Parker. I hope the Cowboys don't fall in love

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Speaker 7: with that, with that type of guy. Ruben Bain, I

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Speaker 7: do think he'll be around at twelve because teams suck

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Speaker 7: at drafting. And teams are gonna be like, man, this

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Speaker 7: dude is not as tall as I want. He's not

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Speaker 7: The arms aren't as long as I want, And I

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Speaker 7: think that that could be a reason why Bane could

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Speaker 7: possibly fall. This could just me, you know, this could

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Speaker 7: be me being optimistic hoping that that bang falls. But

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Speaker 7: they're trends that kind of say this. You know, you know,

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Speaker 7: the league just want those long arm guys. I'm definitely

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Speaker 7: hoping that the Cowboys don't fall in love with TJ.

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Speaker 7: Parker the closer we get to the draft. Nick tapples

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Speaker 7: on the shoulder. Hey man, they like him just like

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Speaker 7: Michael Williams last year. Yeah, I wasn't a big Mike

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Speaker 7: hal fan at all. Dallas loved him. I was like, please,

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Speaker 7: somebody take Mikeel Williams. They helped us out. You like

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Speaker 7: mikel Wis. We almost thought about it, but please take

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Speaker 7: those guys so that dow I don't have to worry

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Speaker 8: But who's the most Mikel Williams like player in this draft?

660
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Speaker 5: It would probably be a Keldrick Keldrick Falk, Yeah, that's

661
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 5: I think he's going to be around that range, and

662
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see, it's very early in the process.

663
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Speaker 8: I think as they go along, though, I would not

664
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Speaker 8: be surprised just because of how they felt about Mikel Williams,

665
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 8: if they didn't feel similarly about Keldrick Fok. I like Bailey,

666
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 8: I like Baine. I don't know that either one of

667
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 8: them get to twelve. Bailey seems like he's like really

668
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 8: starting to rise for a lot of people. Bailey is.

669
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Speaker 3: Both guys had phenomenal playoffs.

670
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 8: Bailey's just he's such it. When you watch his tape,

671
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 8: he's so like, he's so powerful. Every single time that

672
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 8: he strikes an offensive tackle, they stagger, they move, every

673
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 8: single time. He's got pass rush tools, He's got bend.

674
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Speaker 8: He's explosive. I love David Bailey, I Baine, I like

675
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 8: I like Bailey Moore just because I feel like there's

676
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 8: a broader skill set there than what you have with Bain.

677
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 8: Bain's definitely more power play and you know, bullrush type

678
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 8: of guy. But I think that Fulk is definitely going

679
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 8: to be somebody that they will end up kind of

680
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 8: liking in those range who will, in my in the

681
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 8: greatest likelihood, be there.

682
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: Well, if Bailey's not there at twelve. Can I interest

683
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 5: you in his teammate in romelo height? Do you think

684
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 5: he could be a top fifteen guy by the end

685
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 5: of this process. I think with his measurables, I think

686
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 5: he's going to test fantastic.

687
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 4: He's a freak off the edge.

688
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 5: Now we might be shooting a little high here for

689
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 5: twelve maybe, but maybe the twenty six, maybe the twenty

690
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 5: six or twenty five if that packer's picking.

691
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 8: So yeah, and he's one I like, I've not watched

692
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 8: him yet. I like when I've seen him, but I'm

693
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 8: not done like a full study on him yet. And

694
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 8: so he's one that I know. The opinions of him though,

695
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 8: are that like he's ascending, like he's somebody who's rys

696
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 8: and combined and everything else will in all likely to

697
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 8: help him.

698
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 6: But I don't know.

699
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Speaker 8: Dallas has typically shown themselves to be they really do.

700
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 8: Not only like the length and like the prototypical build,

701
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 8: but they will They don't seem to have as much

702
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 8: of a problem with edge rushers or defensive lineman in

703
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 8: college who didn't necessarily produce big numbers, but like they

704
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 8: definitely seem to be more on the projection end and say, yeah,

705
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 8: but we think we can do this with him, and

706
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 8: Falk was that way. I'm gonna he hit three tackles

707
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 8: for loss this year or something. Yeah, at Auburn it

708
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 8: was not much.

709
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: Two sacks in twenty nine tackles.

710
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 9: He doesn't strike me as much of a pass rusher.

711
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 9: I think he's really good against the run. But if

712
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 9: you're looking for a guy that's going to get you

713
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 9: double digit sacks or something like that, Falk's just not

714
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 9: your guy.

715
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: Dallas. Again, just to remind everybody at home, first round,

716
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: they have the twelfth overall pick, and then Green Bay's pick,

717
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: which is going to fluctuate based on what happens in

718
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: the playoffs. We are all Bears fans this weekend, Bear down, Baby,

719
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: go Chicago, take down the Green Bay Packers, and push

720
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 3: that pick further up for us moving forward. Then after that,

721
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: the next pick for Dallas would be in the fourth round,

722
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: right now slotted for one to twelve. Then they have

723
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 3: a fifth round pick, which is right now slotted for

724
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: one fifty. Then they would anticipate probably two comp picks

725
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: right two fifth round compicks, So you're probably going to

726
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: get two guys at the back half of the fifth round.

727
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: Most likely that of course is going to change. And

728
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: then they have the Giants seventh round pick and the

729
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: Chiefs seventh round pick. That's the ultimate draft overlook in

730
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: terms of what the Cowboys have at the moment. So

731
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: if you're not going to get an edge rusher early,

732
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: you would anticipate having to try and pigeonhole one later

733
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: in the draft. That's what makes this tough. And going

734
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 3: back to Tommy's point in the first segment, you gotta

735
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: find a way either to get back into Day two

736
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: and sure up somewhere else because right now you're you're

737
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: struggling to pigeonhole these other position groups of need, whether

738
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: it's edge rusher, linebacker, corner. All three could be a

739
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: possibility at twelve. All three could be a possibility in

740
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: the twenties. But you can't necessarily leave this draft or

741
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: free agency without adding somebody at each of those three positions.

742
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 8: Are they Would you classify Dallas as win now, Yes,

743
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 8: like team full I would do.

744
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: If you've got a franchise quarterback.

745
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 10: Yes.

746
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 8: Philosophy wise, I think their team building philosophy looks and goes,

747
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 8: we're trying to win right now.

748
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

749
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 8: The other aspect of the just that you got to

750
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 8: wonder in terms of the way they attacked free agency

751
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 8: versus the way they use those two first round picks

752
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 8: is also historically what positions have been ready to contribute

753
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 8: his rookies right away. Linebackers do have a much higher

754
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 8: hit rate of contributing right away at the NFL level

755
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 8: than edge rushers do. Ed rushers don't always click right away.

756
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 8: There's I talked to a defensive line coach one time

757
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 8: who had said, like most of them comeing to the league,

758
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 8: they don't know how to use their hands, and so

759
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 8: because that they really struggle the first year. Even the

760
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 8: most polished advanced technique guy that we thought we saw

761
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 8: in the draft last year as an edge rusher like

762
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 8: Donovan Ezrokat was way up there as like a guy

763
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 8: who understood how to do it. He still finished the

764
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 8: year with two sacks. Should have been three, but he

765
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 8: finished year with two sacks. And that it just makes

766
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 8: me wonder if part of the strategy also has to

767
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 8: incorporate all right, but with those two first round picks,

768
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 8: who do we trust we could get at a position

769
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 8: to contribute now and then address maybe veterans on the

770
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 8: edge rush group and free agency.

771
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 7: I don't think you can be afraid to draft the safety. Well,

772
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: but Caleb down safety from ohiose that. I don't think

773
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 7: you could be afraid to draft him. You know what

774
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Like, if it's not him, I'm not looking

775
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 7: at safety. If it's not Bane or Bailey, I'm not

776
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: really looking at it. I'm just trying to get the

777
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: best possible dude I can get at twelve. And then

778
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: when you get to nineteen because the Bears are gonna win, uh,

779
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 7: then you kind of you know, go from there.

780
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 6: But go ahead, look.

781
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 3: It is this is from Josh. Is there a position

782
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: group where you would feel comfortable double dipping in this

783
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 3: draft with the limited draft capital that you have moving forward?

784
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 6: Does does DB's count as a group?

785
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: I would say, separate in between safety and corner because

786
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: they'll draft safety. I mean they'll draft corners. They haven't

787
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: drafted a safety since they drafted Donovan Wilson at any

788
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: point in time, raft Kyle any point in the draft.

789
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, linebacker and edge linebacker be my one linebackers.

790
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 6: Like, is that double dipping though?

791
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 8: No, I'm saying I'm saying linebacker and edge are two

792
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 8: position groups that double if they double.

793
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: I think I think linebacker's super deep. Like if you

794
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 5: want to go get two off ball guys who can

795
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 5: man the middle. You know, you could even look later

796
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 5: in the draft, guys like Landard Barton Nott of Utah,

797
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: Torry and York out of Texas A and m Bryce

798
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 5: Bryce Betcher. I believe is how you pronounce. We're gonna

799
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 5: get these pronunciations right time. It's day one, Bryce Becher

800
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: for Morgan. But there's there's gonna be some guys. And

801
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 5: I'm mohammedtur out of Miami.

802
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: Man.

803
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: He had an awesome quarterfinal against Ohio State. These are

804
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 5: I think these are some guys you could you could

805
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 5: swing on later on and and be able to double dip.

806
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 5: Aiden Fisher from Indiana. I wanna throw another one in there,

807
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: but that's that's probably the one I would look at.

808
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 6: The one time. My fifth round guys on Day one? Man,

809
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: what's all doing?

810
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 13: Man?

811
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 14: Yeah?

812
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: You know.

813
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 6: January Steve Man go here.

814
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a name that you probably would know.

815
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 6: This is from Matt.

816
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: He specifically asked Tommy and Bobby for this question. So

817
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: you might have an idea of where it's where it's

818
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 3: headed from.

819
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: You know, I went to Texas to you people.

820
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: Forget about that for a little bit crazy, just for

821
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: a little bit, mister Michael Taff safety, I don't want

822
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: to hear down down here, down here. Of course, he's

823
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: got all sorts of talent. He was banged up. I

824
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: called the Mississippi State Texas game this year. He didn't

825
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: play in that game because he was hurt. He was

826
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: in and out of the lineup. Would you trust that

827
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: he has a bounce back with a possible Day three

828
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: pick or what's the earliest that you would consider seeing

829
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: a guy like Michael Taff in the full I feeling Bob.

830
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 10: And I are Gon agree on this.

831
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 8: No, Look, I mean to me, the safety position right now,

832
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 8: if you're if you're if you're talking about like where

833
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 8: to address safety, it's downs and the first and that's it.

834
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 8: Like that's that's all you have. I think if you

835
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 8: end up trading back or you're picking up more capital, Okay,

836
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 8: right when we get second and third round, like I

837
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 8: can look at the the Oregon kid, the safety and yeah,

838
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 8: I can I can go there. I can go that direction.

839
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 8: There are all sorts of like different directions you can go.

840
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 8: If you're looking at you know, day three. Maybe it's

841
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 8: like usc you got like Bishop Fitzgerald, like that's that's fine.

842
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 8: If you want to throw out a guy like that,

843
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 8: this is not this is again if we're talking about

844
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 8: when now, I don't want to like take the possition

845
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 8: of safety and go like, all right, I'm gonna wait

846
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 8: till day three to address my safety problems and I'm

847
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 8: going to do it there that I'm not in favor

848
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 8: of that.

849
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: Can I give you one name to keep an eye

850
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 4: on to make a potentially go ahead?

851
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: I want, I want to hear it. Go ahead?

852
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I quit just really yeah, Michael Taff is

853
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 9: not with the Cowboys and get safety right now.

854
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 10: I think they can.

855
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 9: They're better players that you can get earlier than or

856
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 9: even at that same position at the same round than

857
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 9: than Taff. I think as culture guy like that, that's

858
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 9: just he checks all those boxes. But if you're going

859
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 9: to trust him to start for you, it's say, I

860
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 9: think you can get better.

861
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: Actually I agree with Tommy completely there.

862
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 5: I think late fifth, sixth maybe to swing on him

863
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: because he is a smart, instinctual player at the end

864
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 5: of the day, limited athletically, I think he could be

865
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 5: a starter for you. I don't think you should expect

866
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 5: that from him. I think at the very least, though,

867
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: he'll be a guy that makes the fifty three and

868
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: gives you special teams value, and I think you should

869
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 5: be trying to swing for those.

870
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 10: I think he is going to be a really good

871
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 10: special teamer.

872
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: But one guy that I do want to throw out

873
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 5: at safety that I think could sneak in back.

874
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 4: First round is a J Hassey out of LSU. That

875
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: is definitely want I want to throw out there. I

876
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: think he could really rise in this process.

877
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 10: He had a really good It's fun to watch.

878
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, and obviously it's it's still everybody's tackling as we

879
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 8: go a little bit further into it. But how many

880
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 8: starting caliber safeties year one do you think there are

881
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 8: in this draft? Just downs Hall ce Thieneman, you think

882
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 8: you're one? They could go.

883
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 5: I think Kamari Ramsey could, I would I would say four.

884
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 5: I want to learn more about Emmanuel McNeil Warren out

885
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 5: of Toledo, just because Toledo has put out a defensive

886
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 5: starter each of the last two drafts. On defense, Quannon

887
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: Mitchell's going to be, you know, an All Pro corner.

888
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 5: So I definitely want to learn more about Emmanuel McNeil Warren,

889
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 5: but I would.

890
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: Say three to the possibility of five. I really do.

891
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 3: The Dallas Cowboys and the Dallas Cowboys media team has

892
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 3: had some high success with some guys out of Toledo

893
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 3: playing safety, just Barry Church Barry, I'm just just give

894
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: it a shout out to my guy. Now you mentioned

895
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: Caleb Downs. There was a question on Twitter on the

896
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: twenty about Downs watch when it comes to how you

897
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: would draft him at twelve? Is he's special enough to

898
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 3: get drafted at twelve? Because the last safety Tommy and

899
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: I were talking about this yesterday, the last of safety

900
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 3: to be drafted at high right was Kyle Helton Hamilton

901
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Is he that type of player to

902
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 3: be drafted at twelve and feel good about it?

903
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 7: Safeties are weird because I think the most premium safeties

904
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 7: are like the rangey free safety guys like those are

905
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 7: the guys that I think should always go higher. I

906
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 7: think he's going to be more of a around the box,

907
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 7: maybe two high play halfs at a time type of guy,

908
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 7: playing the nickel chess peace type dude. So those dudes

909
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 7: maybe like fall a little bit less. But I think

910
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 7: he's one of the better players in this draft and

911
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 7: it's going to be him versus whoever else is.

912
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 6: Available right now.

913
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 7: And if we're not wind addressing our board, we can't

914
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 7: be like, oh well, I'll take Mellow height over Caleb

915
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 7: Bailey because we need edge and we don't take safeties.

916
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 7: He's a much better player than hype right now, you

917
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So in that way, if you're

918
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 7: sitting at twelve, I just think that he that he

919
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: just makes sense. Caleb Downs makes sense if he's the

920
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 7: best player there, and I think he could be a

921
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 7: player that's there because teams a good draft. And even

922
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 7: though he may be a top five player in his draft,

923
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 7: safety's fall all the time.

924
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 9: I would say with Downs, he is more often than

925
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 9: not the best player on the field, and I think

926
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 9: he has been that for the last two years. Hamilton

927
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 9: was the all the physical traits guy like big.

928
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 10: Long arms ky, Yes, Kyle Hamilton.

929
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 9: He can run, he can run everywhere, and he can

930
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 9: make all those plays. Downs is a little bit more compact,

931
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 9: and he's I mean, he's built really well and can

932
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 9: run all over the place. But what stands out to

933
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 9: me is is his football IQ and how smart of

934
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 9: a player he is. He's always in the right place

935
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 9: at the right time. He is a great leader of

936
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 9: the defense. Which stood out when he came into college

937
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 9: was Nick Saban just immediately off the bat said, this

938
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 9: guy's probably the best safety we've got.

939
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 10: Since Mega Fitzpatrick. And that's when he is a true freshman.

940
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 9: I mean, Nick Saban's not a guy to throw out

941
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 9: compliments like that, so that is like, Okay, we really

942
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 9: interested to see.

943
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 10: How good he is.

944
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 9: And he was that good for Alabama in year one

945
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 9: and he has been kind of the heartbeat of this

946
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 9: Ohio State defense, which was a national champion last year

947
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 9: and then.

948
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 10: Not so much this year.

949
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 9: But downs I think more often than that is going

950
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 9: to be the best player on the field. So that

951
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 9: tells you if he's there at twelve, if you feel

952
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 9: like he is the best player available, which more likely

953
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 9: than that he will be. I think it's hard for

954
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 9: me right now to in vision scenario where he isn't.

955
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 9: I wouldn't necessarily say, you know, hold off from that.

956
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure he gets out of the top five

957
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: as of.

958
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 8: Today, which wow, I would he be. He'd be the

959
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 8: first top ten safety since Tamal Adams. I think I

960
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 8: think that's a shoe, but I think it is a shoot.

961
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 8: So and I feel like we've had this before with Hamilton.

962
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 8: I'm trying to remember who else was this way. There's

963
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 8: somebody else in the last Coleers who we all felt like,

964
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 8: that's such an easy time. Derwin James was like that

965
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 8: where everybody's like, this is such an easy top ten player,

966
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 8: and then they always fall into the teams branch. Some

967
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 8: people thought it was Corner though, So I just don't

968
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 8: know why if that was. To me, Caleb Downs is

969
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 8: out of realistic players because like, I don't think RVL

970
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 8: Reese is going to be there at twelve from Ohio State.

971
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 8: To me, Caleb Downs, either of what could reasonably happen

972
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 8: is dream scenario at twelve if you can get like

973
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 8: if I can get guys put down the board a

974
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 8: little bit, because it's always you start thinking too optimistically

975
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 8: this early and then as it goes on your out

976
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 8: the out, they're not there. But cayleb Downs to twelve

977
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 8: and then like c. J. Allen, get down to like

978
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 8: nineteen twenty, if that's where you end up picking if

979
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 8: you get Allen and Downs, Like, to me in media,

980
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 8: that's two impacts start starts, and I would be fine,

981
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 8: all right, go fix edge through free agency. Go find

982
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 8: another veteran corner through free agency. But this right here,

983
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 8: like that, to me, fixes a number of your issues

984
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 8: on defense.

985
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 7: Wants please go ahead some real good Downs film, because

986
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 7: I think sometimes people look at him as a box safety,

987
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 7: so they think them of him, you know, like a

988
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: Donovan Wilson type guy, right, but some real good film.

989
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 7: Watch him last year in the playoffs. They just let

990
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 7: him run around and do everything. They'll put two safeties

991
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 7: behind him and just kind of have him robbing and

992
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 7: just kind of gravitate to the football. He was always

993
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 7: around the football, making plays in the run game plays

994
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 7: in the past, he was everywhere. Nick, I don't know

995
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 7: if you go top five man, but if somebody drafting

996
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 7: tip five, I wouldn't say that they're crazy.

997
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say that great Cowboys could use.

998
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 9: Them if they get Allan and Downs. As it stands

999
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 9: right now, I think he fixed a lot of problems.

1000
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 10: And there's some.

1001
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 9: Veteran guys in free agency that you can get from

1002
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 9: the edge rusher position.

1003
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 10: I don't think we can talk about names yet.

1004
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 9: But nonetheless, there are some guys that I think you

1005
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 9: could say, Okay, I think you're taking a step in

1006
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 9: the right direction, whether or not you sign them the

1007
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 9: long term deals at Edge and we talk about Clowney,

1008
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 9: that's probably the guy they want to bring back. But

1009
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 9: there are some other guys out there where you're like,

1010
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 9: all right, we can we can work with this for now,

1011
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 9: and then see if we can get another step from

1012
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 9: Ezraku and see if we can get an edg Rusher elsewhere.

1013
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 5: And I wonder how much future scouting goes into the

1014
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven draft, because if you look at the

1015
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 5: twenty seven draft, the guys you expect to be in

1016
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 5: the first round at Edge unreal, Oh my god, unreal

1017
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 5: crop Colin Simmons, Dylan Stewart.

1018
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: That's just to mention a couple. There's gonna be a ton.

1019
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 6: It's January, man, this one.

1020
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: I would be shocked if you go through your film

1021
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 5: study and you don't find a couple of these twenty

1022
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: seven guys where you're like, oh my god, I.

1023
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 6: Would be focused to see them.

1024
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 8: Matter that happened, That happened last year when we were

1025
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 8: studying and I saw Dylan Stewart. Yeah, holy tea, Yeah yeah.

1026
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 9: You're gonna watch Texas film this year and say that

1027
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 9: about Colin sentence.

1028
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys next year. That's a that's

1029
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: a loaded draft class. It really is. All right.

1030
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 7: One more thing, what's I got a question for Bobby

1031
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 7: earlier when you was talking about the Cowboys DB's you

1032
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 7: said guys that could play, You said, yeah, man, Carson, Revel,

1033
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 7: you know, Hooker, Bland. You didn't say donovand Wilson. Fine, cool,

1034
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 7: No where about it, free agent. I don't think he's

1035
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 7: coming back.

1036
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 6: It's all good.

1037
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 7: Do you think Caleb Downs can play today right and

1038
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 7: be effective today?

1039
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 8: Yep? And I think he is interchangeable. He could do

1040
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 8: whatever you want at safety, and I think you can

1041
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 8: do some nickel stuff. To me, Caleb Downs is, arguably

1042
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 8: on defense, is the most plug and play ready player

1043
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 8: defensively in the draft. I think I agree.

1044
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: That sounds intriguing to me because you need somebody now,

1045
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 3: and you need somebody on the back end of that defense.

1046
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 6: Now we'll say right now, absolutely all right.

1047
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: When we come back on the draft show a little

1048
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Speaker 3: bit of draft accountability from the twenty twenty five class

1049
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Speaker 3: for this Cowboys team, both amongst the group and amongst

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris, Tommy Yarsh, Bobby belt Im, Kyle y Omens

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Speaker 3: with Chris Beam in the back. This is our Draft

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Speaker 3: Show crew throughout the twenty twenty five season. Well, we've

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Speaker 3: I've seen the comments, I've seen kind of the replies

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Speaker 3: all the way through. We still love Brian brought us.

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Speaker 3: That was his decision. It wasn't our decision. He's going

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00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: to focus on Crown media and trying to grow his

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00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: own thing. It was not an Eberflus thing.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for the clarify, this is more deep.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate Brian, we still love Brian, and if you're

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00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 3: frustrated not seeing him on the show, we get it.

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00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: You're probably going to see him on the show at

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Speaker 3: some point in some capacity, especially whenever we get closer

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Speaker 3: to draft weekend as well, just to keep that in mind.

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Speaker 3: Love Brian brought us continue his support and all the

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Speaker 3: way through as well. He showed some love to Nick

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00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: Harris this morning right on Twitter, just he said, I

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Speaker 3: love me some, Nick Harris, I love me some Brian,

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00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: like the one time we've we've heard that.

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying what I love by Nick Harris, though,

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00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 7: what's it I love by Nick heres? You know, Nick

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Speaker 7: Hare's got to be you know, he's a he's a

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00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 7: he's a pros pro, so he got to be neutral

1130
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 7: for the most part. But all the I hate Flus

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00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 7: tweets that I put out because I ain't got to

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00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 7: be a pro.

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00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: Nick Nicholas right there liking him. I saw him.

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Speaker 8: You can't prove it.

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00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 6: I saw him. Nicklas right there just liking all the

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00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: beautiful back the curtain.

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00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 7: All the me inflammatory things I said about the Blues

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00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 7: boy Nicklas right there.

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00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: Wit all the uber flus tweets, but.

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00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 7: Everything I said a boy Miam McCarthy body beat right there.

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00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So all the coaches I hate, man,

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00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 6: I got back up.

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00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel good, samp me. One day they'll get

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00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: it right. One day they'll get these man.

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00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 6: I hope man because that what that is? My age?

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00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: Thirty two third three? How would that get? Yeah?

1147
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: Three?

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00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 6: Next year swing got loan man defense?

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00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 3: All right, little traded or excuse me? Draft accountability from

1150
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: last year twenty twenty five class? Were they worth your

1151
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 3: grade within the group from what you had on your

1152
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: board last year? And were they worth the Cowboys grade

1153
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: and where they took them in the twenty twenty five draft.

1154
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: We're just going to work down the board as much

1155
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: as we can, starting with the first overall pick for

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00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: Dallas last year, mister Tyler Booker. Nick Where did you

1157
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 3: have him and did he live up to the expectation?

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00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

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00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 4: I think we all hit on. Tyler Booker had him

1160
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 4: as a first round grade.

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00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 3: I should have started with Fotch because yeah, really yea.

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00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 7: Well it was an eighth on my board, like he

1163
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 7: was my He was my eighth best guy, and I

1164
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 7: was just blown away by him.

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00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 6: Him whooping folk.

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00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: I think we live in this age where like guards

1167
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 7: are three hundred and five pounds. We're going to talk

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00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: about him soon. But but Book just had the size

1169
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 7: and power. I thought the movement stuff was kind of overrated.

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Speaker 7: Clayton Adams came on this show in day three and say,

1171
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 7: hey man, we're not gonna ask anybody to do nothing

1172
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 7: that they're not good at. And the one thing that

1173
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 7: makes these these rookies kind of work in year one

1174
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 7: is if you strong as hell. And booked strong as hell,

1175
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 7: So even when he wasn't technically perfect, he was strong

1176
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: as hell. Now some things he can clean up slants

1177
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 7: and gap exchanges and all this kind of stuff stunts.

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00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 7: They kind of whooped up on him a little bit.

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00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 7: He's a rook which you wanted to do. I think

1180
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 7: next year that's all like mental he can knock that out.

1181
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 7: But peanut, but a book, which is him coming back

1182
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 7: bigger and strong or whatever. Peanut, but a book gonna

1183
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 7: be stupid next year. We all hit on now.

1184
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 8: So I didn't, I mean, I liked him, but I

1185
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 8: did not have him in the first round like you

1186
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 8: guys did. I had him as a second I thought

1187
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 8: he played above Where had him? Had him eeenth on

1188
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 8: my stack, So I mean I didn't have him like

1189
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 8: way low. It was like near top of the second round.

1190
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 8: But he played better than I even thought he would

1191
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 8: ear one. So definitely hit for the Cowboys.

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00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. Had him as a high

1193
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 3: second round grade and I had him at twenty two

1194
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 3: on my board.

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Speaker 6: Damn.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I I think he played above and beyond.

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00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: If you were to redraft this class, yeah, yeah, he'd

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Speaker 3: probably be a top ten pick. Yeah, I would argue

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Speaker 3: he'd be right in that conversation.

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Speaker 8: I think I think NFL dot Com did one of

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Speaker 8: those during the year, and yeah, he ended up like

1202
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 8: nine or something.

1203
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: That'd probably be about right. All right, Donovan Aserraku second

1204
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Speaker 3: round pick. This is where I'll start with Nick Rris.

1205
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was certainly my guy. I had him as

1206
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 5: one of my last first round grades. I think only

1207
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 5: had fifteen. I can't find my stack for some reason,

1208
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 5: but I think only had fifteen first round grades last year,

1209
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: and if I did, then Asiraku was like fourteen. I

1210
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 5: just love the athleticism out of Aserraku coming out of

1211
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 5: Boston College. However, I don't think he played like a

1212
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Speaker 5: first round pick this year necessarily. I think he was fantastic,

1213
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong. I think you look at the

1214
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 5: pressure rate. The thing that really surprised me from him

1215
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: was his run game ability. My goodness, his run game

1216
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 5: ability was fantastic. But I think he probably played up

1217
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 5: to a second round grade this year. But I think

1218
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: he still does have the potential. You get him under

1219
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 5: the right system, under the right coordinator that could put

1220
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: him in the best position to succeed and get after

1221
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 5: the quarterback, then I think he could easily get to

1222
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 5: that first round.

1223
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 3: And no doubt.

1224
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, I had as Iraku as my last first round

1225
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 9: as rusher, and I think I'm with Nick.

1226
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 10: It's it was.

1227
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 9: He came in with so much production from a pass

1228
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 9: rush standpoint led the nation in sacks, and for whatever reason,

1229
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 9: it seemed like a lot of what you saw on

1230
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 9: his college tape wasn't necessarily what he was doing on

1231
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 9: the field. And we talked a little bit earlier about

1232
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 9: how pass rushers sometimes they need to learn how to

1233
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 9: use their hands in the NFL, and they need to

1234
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 9: learn how to rush the NFL. That's one of the

1235
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 9: things Brian Schottenheimer would always talk about when it came

1236
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 9: to Azerraku.

1237
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 10: And so does that mean with the.

1238
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 9: New staff in here and some more work in the

1239
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 9: off season, that he can take that jump next year?

1240
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 9: Maybe so, And certainly that's what the Cowboys are hoping.

1241
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 9: I would certainly be interested. And I've talked with a

1242
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 9: couple of you guys about this about if we're talking

1243
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 9: about defensive staff now, and this is not a slight

1244
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 9: at Aaron Whitecotton or whatever the job that he's doing.

1245
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 9: I think he's an excellent job and could possibly be

1246
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 9: on the staff and should be on the staff next year.

1247
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 10: I don't think it hurts to add a pass.

1248
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 9: Rush specialist to this staff to try and help some

1249
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 9: of your pass rushers, especially given how poor they were

1250
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 9: in the pass rush last season. You know, is that

1251
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 9: something that maybe you just need those extra tweaks and

1252
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 9: that extra eye looking at things to help this Cowboys defense.

1253
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 9: But as far as where we put him, I don't

1254
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 9: think he lived up to the billion in his rookie season.

1255
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 9: But with those kinds of guys, there's still plenty of time.

1256
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,919
Speaker 3: Does he have more upside than some of the other

1257
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 3: second round picks that Dallas has been at ed rus

1258
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. Sam Williams.

1259
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 4: Sam Williams will be looking for another team in March exactly.

1260
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 3: So I think he lived up to the expectation. Maybe

1261
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: not the first round grade expectations right now, but he

1262
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: can still very easily move into a prominent edg rusher

1263
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: on this team.

1264
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna have to shave my head, Baal, because

1265
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 8: I had made a proclamation at the beginning of the season.

1266
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 8: I was like, as long as he's healthy, minimum six

1267
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 8: sacs as a rookie, because I was like the passer

1268
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 8: stool being in there an easy pass ours situation, he'll

1269
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 8: be able to get it. So that didn't work out,

1270
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 8: but I'm still I'm still no, it wasn't he He

1271
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 8: should have gotten half a Clowny's and then he should

1272
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 8: have gotten I mean, I'm stretching clowning a little bit,

1273
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 8: but I think he would have gotten the other two

1274
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 8: and a half in the second half of the game

1275
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 8: the other day. Three more that one day, right exactly.

1276
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 8: But if you look at like I thought immediately he

1277
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 8: can come in here and rush the passer. The run

1278
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 8: game is going to take some work. Run game. He

1279
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 8: was great right away, and he just was not able

1280
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 8: to finish a lot of these pass rushes. So I'm

1281
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 8: actually more optimistic about him now than I was last year,

1282
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 8: just because the aspect that didn't come through. I still

1283
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 8: know that's within him because I've seen it, like I

1284
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 8: see flashes of it at the NFL level and I've

1285
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 8: seen it on tape during college. But I think that

1286
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 8: I had him second round. He was like play, I

1287
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 8: can't find my stack either. Like other than the little notes,

1288
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 8: I think had him at thirty one. I was gonna

1289
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 8: say he was like right around thirty something, but he was.

1290
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 8: I think that he was really really good this year.

1291
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 8: I think he was a success.

1292
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: Savone rebel, kind of an interesting one because of his

1293
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: inability to stay on the field consistently. I mean, he

1294
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: coming off of a huge injury, so he got on

1295
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: the field, and even when he got on the field,

1296
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 3: I still feel like he struggled to play one healthy football.

1297
00:52:58,640 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, had the.

1298
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: Brace on the entire season, didn't necessarily play a high brand.

1299
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 3: What would you say, I'll start with you, Tommy on

1300
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:07,959
Speaker 3: this one. What would you say about some oone rebel.

1301
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think this was what they were. Obviously,

1302
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 9: when you come back from a major knee injury and

1303
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 9: you're wearing a brace like that, it's difficult, and I

1304
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 9: think you saw some of those struggles where it seemed

1305
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 9: a little stiff, and I think it was because of

1306
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 9: that brace.

1307
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: Obviously.

1308
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to make excuses for the kid. He

1309
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 9: can play better, sure, but I think you saw some

1310
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 9: limited movement. And if you don't believe me, I think

1311
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 9: you go back and watch them of the tape from

1312
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 9: this year and then watch some of his tape from

1313
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 9: East Carolina when he was healthy, and you look at

1314
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 9: two different players in terms of how they were able

1315
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 9: to move. So I really believe that with a full

1316
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 9: offseason where he's able to have a training camp, because

1317
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 9: remember he didn't have a training camp either with the Cowboys,

1318
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 9: he was hurt the whole time, with a full training

1319
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 9: camp and he's able to get that brace off his

1320
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 9: knee and be moving be fully healthy again.

1321
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 10: I think this.

1322
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 9: Kid's going to be a really good player. I love

1323
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 9: him a lot, and I think that he's going to

1324
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 9: be a plus player. For this defense for a long time.

1325
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, if he got hurt again, I don't think he

1326
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 8: I don't think he was comfortable playing with the brace

1327
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 8: at all. I think I think he was there was

1328
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 8: trying to remember it was Detroit. I think it was

1329
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 8: maybe whatever the previous road game was to that, maybe

1330
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 8: it was Vegas. He he could not stop touching his

1331
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 8: knee and like fiddling with that brace after every single play,

1332
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 8: and so I think it just wasn't a comfort thing

1333
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 8: for him. I think he was healthy. There was rust,

1334
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 8: but I mean, I think he's healthy. There was rust,

1335
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 8: and you got to knock that off. But I think

1336
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 8: the other thing was just he was not comfortable playing

1337
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 8: with that brace on.

1338
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 5: Red shirt year for yeah, And and the getting him

1339
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 5: on the field was just to get him get his

1340
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 5: feet wet. And I think you don't really know what

1341
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 5: you have with savone rebel right now whatsoever.

1342
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 8: Which there's a danger too, and that we were talking

1343
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 8: about that a little bit this morning on the fan.

1344
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 8: There's a danger in do you want to put him

1345
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 8: out there and trust that he's going to have the

1346
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 8: mentality of being able to put his rookie year into

1347
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 8: proper context and not get discouraged by it. Yeah, because

1348
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 8: some get Jalen Tolbert that had like famously around here,

1349
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 8: got him in trouble year one where he just he couldn't.

1350
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 8: It rocked his confidence for his entire stay here, Revel.

1351
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 8: You hope that he's got a little bit of that.

1352
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 8: That was something that you, I'm sure would have to weigh.

1353
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 8: It's just like, is he going to be able to

1354
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 8: properly contextualize the growth that has to occur.

1355
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 4: I cut up with savone on Friday.

1356
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: It was the last time I saw him before because

1357
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 5: he didn't play Sunday, and then he was in a

1358
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 5: locker room yesterday. He said he's really excited to get

1359
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,959
Speaker 5: the brace off, get training this offseason, have the healthy offseason, and.

1360
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: Get back to one hundred percent. And he was never

1361
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: at one hundred percent this.

1362
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 5: Year, and you can't evaluate him correctly until you see

1363
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 5: that happen. I'm glad you mentioned that the next coordinator

1364
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 5: is going to have to have a plan for him,

1365
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 5: and I hope that that's part of what the plan

1366
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 5: is going forward.

1367
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 3: Continuing with Revel real quickly when it comes to next

1368
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: year and playing fully healthy. Let's say he is fully

1369
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: healthy for a full seventeen game season.

1370
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 10: What would he.

1371
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 3: Need to show you from a film standpoint or from

1372
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 3: a production standpoint to be worth a third round pick

1373
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 3: next year?

1374
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 5: What is it the right knee I think he's been

1375
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 5: dealing with. I need to see that right knee cut

1376
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: the same way that left knee cuts. When you see

1377
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: that leftnie cut, man, you see it, you see And

1378
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 5: when when a guy at six foot two and a

1379
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 5: half can cut that quickly, that fluidly, that's what makes

1380
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 5: him an all Pro corner. That's what makes him why

1381
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 5: Brian broad has had him as his eleventh best player

1382
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 5: in the draft vatch, you had him at eighteen. That's

1383
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 5: that's that's the type of ability you can get from him.

1384
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 5: But if that if that right knee never comes back,

1385
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: then you know, that's that's a little bit of a concern.

1386
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, moving on to did you have some else?

1387
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,959
Speaker 8: And now I was just gonna say on the idea

1388
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 8: of whatever coordinator comes in here, I think whoever pitches

1389
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 8: the idea of let's play the strength, Let's get him

1390
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 8: up there pressing guys and let his instincts take over

1391
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 8: and just let him play football, think that's going to

1392
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 8: be the most compelling argument that the Cowboys here.

1393
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 3: Jaden Blue, he hurt his left knee. Leftnie, Yeah, Jaden Blue.

1394
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 4: Fascinating one.

1395
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 6: Huh.

1396
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 7: Hey man, we saw a game, yeah out of seventeen

1397
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 7: that was cool.

1398
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. I don't.

1399
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 7: I don't think it's the physical with him. I think

1400
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 7: I think shotty on the track. Man, if you can't

1401
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 7: do X, y Z, then we're not gonna see you play.

1402
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 7: And there were times early in the sees where he

1403
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 7: did play all right, you know, I wasn't really blown away.

1404
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 7: He didn't really do anything that just jumped out to us.

1405
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 7: I honestly thought that jayda On Blue was like a

1406
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 7: third round tight talent. But maybe he failed to the

1407
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 7: fifth round for some of those reasons.

1408
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

1409
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 6: Bible had to tell us.

1410
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 7: But hey man, it is what is wolf Wolf's I'm

1411
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 7: not gonna move forward like we talked about, like what

1412
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 7: do we do when we signed running back? Do we

1413
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 7: draft a running back? Like, I'm not gonna move forward?

1414
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 7: Like all right, jaydon you the one guy. You know

1415
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, I'm gonna move forward, hoping that Williams

1416
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 7: gets a cool little deal that he can come back

1417
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 7: and Jaydon could keep being two and three and he'll

1418
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 7: work on it.

1419
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: I had him in the fifth last year. I had him, Yeah,

1420
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 3: middle of the fifth, maybe upper echelon of the fifth round.

1421
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: I feel like a fifth round pick for him has

1422
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 3: been pretty accurate, because a fifth round pick, you don't

1423
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: expect him to come in and start. You expect him

1424
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 3: to come in and play. I would say maybe he

1425
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: under achieved a little bit because he wasn't active as

1426
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: much as I wanted him to be active, whether that's

1427
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 3: from a mental side of the game, from a pass

1428
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 3: protection That was my big knock on him is that

1429
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 3: he could not pass protect and he funneled the football.

1430
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 3: And we saw both of those things flare at different

1431
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 3: times this season. I think when it comes to Jayden Blue,

1432
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: I think a fifth round pick has been accurate on

1433
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: what we've seen from him so far.

1434
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 4: Yes, go ahead, I need to research something, so you

1435
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: got okay.

1436
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 9: I had a fifth on him too, and I think

1437
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 9: that's accurate. Everything that I heard about Jaden Blue coming

1438
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 9: into the draft and then when we got to the

1439
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 9: Cowboys was you know, this is somebody that needs to

1440
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 9: learn how to be a professional is going through that process.

1441
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 9: I think that was a part of it too. Brian

1442
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 9: Shohammer mentioned it several times. Hey, this is a guy

1443
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,959
Speaker 9: who's still learning about the NFL, learning what it means

1444
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 9: to be a professional and playing this league, and I

1445
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 9: think that was a process that took a little bit longer.

1446
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 9: And sure we saw him play in this last game

1447
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 9: with the running backs banged up, and that speed is again.

1448
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 10: Something that Brian shotn Hyer mentioned. I can change games.

1449
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 9: It's just I think the way he was utilized in

1450
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 9: college and the way that he can be utilized in

1451
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 9: the NFL is very different. Steve Starkegan love those wheel routes,

1452
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 9: getting their running backs oude in space, and sometimes they

1453
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 9: kind of get forgotten with how much prestnet motion and

1454
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 9: different looks that he gaves opposing defenses, so Blue as

1455
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 9: a benefactor of that, But between the tackles things like that,

1456
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 9: that stuff that he still needs to work on gets stronger. Obviously,

1457
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 9: ball security was a huge problem in college, and he

1458
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 9: had a fumble this year that was pretty tough. So

1459
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 9: you know, there's a lot of potential there, but I

1460
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 9: think there's still a lot of work that needs to

1461
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 9: be done to.

1462
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 5: These were my notes on Jayden Blue last year. Burston

1463
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 5: acceleration can make him a dangerous weapon, but intention and

1464
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 5: application will need to be there, and I'm not sure

1465
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 5: if we got the intention and application from him at

1466
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 5: the one hundred percent level that he needed. And I

1467
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 5: fifth round at the end of the day, probably you know,

1468
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 5: pretty solid as far as like where he ended up

1469
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 5: being and what they got out of him. But when

1470
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 5: you look at some of the running backs that were

1471
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: drafted after him, it starts to make you go, like

1472
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 5: Devin Neil, Kyle Manung, Guy, Ja Cory Krofsky, Merritt, even

1473
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 5: Leaquin Allen got in for for Jacksonville. You know, these

1474
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 5: are some guys that I liked that I thought they

1475
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: could have swam.

1476
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Manung Guy for sure.

1477
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: That's why I was pickmong Guy, Guy Guy.

1478
00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 8: Fifth round. Running Backs to me should be in given

1479
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 8: circumstances like should be able to come in and contribute

1480
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 8: at a higher level than Jaden Blue did at times

1481
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 8: because of the position has been devalued the way that

1482
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 8: it kind of has in recent years. Then when you

1483
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 8: take a running back in the fifth it's not unheard

1484
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 8: of to have them come in and contribute right away. Yeah,

1485
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 8: so that's a frustrating aspect of it. I think learning

1486
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 8: how to be a pro is a big thing for him. Obviously,

1487
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 8: it's pass protection stuff, it's the fumbling. I always point

1488
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 8: to the Miles Sanders run against Philly in Week one

1489
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 8: where people are like, well, Jayden Blue would have scored

1490
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 8: on that one. Was like, Jadan Blue, that would have

1491
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 8: been a loss for two yards because Miles Sanders was

1492
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 8: patient set up the blocks and Jayden Blue doesn't do that.

1493
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 8: Right now, the biggest benefit for Jayden Blue is that

1494
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 8: he has Malik Davis here right now. Because Maliite Davis.

1495
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 8: There was a time, younger in his career where the

1496
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 8: Cowboys were like, you need to learn how to be

1497
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 8: a pro. And he did, and he's become a guy

1498
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 8: that Dak Prescott praises in a big way. So there's

1499
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 8: a living example here in the locker room for Jaden

1500
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 8: Blue of like, hey, here's a guy that we have

1501
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 8: the same sort of questions about and he's become this guy.

1502
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 8: You can be this guy too.

1503
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love one. That's a great point and that's

1504
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: going to end us here. On this first episode of

1505
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 3: the Draft show, we maybe we'll get to some of

1506
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: the other ones, but really those were the big names

1507
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 3: that with James the chamart. So did he did he up?

1508
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 7: Is exactly what I thought he was. I didn't think

1509
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 7: he was processing all that well. I was like, man,

1510
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 7: I don't think he fast enough to overcome that lack

1511
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 7: of process and what are you doing?

1512
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 6: Line the way back that wasn't finish.

1513
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 8: We didn't even get into the knicks awful Tyler Shuck takes.

1514
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 5: I was not to say I'm not giving up on

1515
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck yet. I think he's still bad.

1516
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 3: Not giving up Henna that.

1517
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know he might win Rookie of the Year,

1518
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 4: but I'm.

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Speaker 6: Not got It's a fantastic tape of Oran.

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Speaker 10: Yeah I am.

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Speaker 4: I have to be which Vince Young once won Rookie

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Speaker 4: of the Year too.

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Speaker 6: Where's he at?

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Speaker 13: Wow?

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Speaker 3: That's tough?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 3: When we come back on Thursday, we're gonna spend the

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Speaker 3: entire show talking defense. For everybody good with that. Let's

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Speaker 3: talk some defense. We're gonna name some prospects. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: see some guys names that we talked about today. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna give some scouting reports and really dive into what

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys can do to fix this defense and what

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Speaker 3: the next defensive coordinator may have to work with in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. That's going to do it for us

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Speaker 3: here on the Draft Show. Thanks for watching over the

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Speaker 3: last hour for Vatch Lombardi, Nick Harris, Tommy Yarrish, and

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Speaker 3: Bobby Belt Chris Beam in the back of Kyle Yeomens.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time on Thursday, eleven am Central

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Speaker 3: Time on The Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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