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<v Speaker 1>Ay they are. Good morning, Bucks fans. How's everyone doing,

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Phillips. He was senior writer and editor Scott Smith

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<v Speaker 1>at his time for Buccaneers Insider Live presented by Miller Light.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always, this is where we take your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you have questions for us, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>And as we give people a chance to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I figured we would start with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>the news from this week. Ross Cockerell, quarterback was re signed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wanted to hear your thoughts on on the

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<v Speaker 1>contributions we saw from him. He's he's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't necessarily one of the most recognizable names on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>but ended up playing a pretty big role last season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was very telling. At the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, without even being prompted, um Jason Light, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this is around the beginning of the playoffs. Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Light was just talking about how the season went and

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<v Speaker 1>acquiring players along the way, and he said Ross Cockrell

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the best pickups they made all year,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was really kind of an under the radar

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<v Speaker 1>thing beginning of September, just that we put him on

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, that expanded practice squad, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>time we had rookie Parnell Motley on the active roster,

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<v Speaker 1>and after a couple of weeks, I think it just

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<v Speaker 1>became mobby obvious to on the practice on the practice

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<v Speaker 1>field that Cockroll was should be playing, so they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of switched those two and then Parnel Motley ended up

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<v Speaker 1>getting side elsewhere, but Russ Cockroll stayed on the roster

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the way, and while there were times

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<v Speaker 1>where he didn't play for a bunch of games in

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<v Speaker 1>a row, when he was needed, he stepped in very well.

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<v Speaker 1>He played well in the slot, he played a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on the outside as well, and ended up through

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs getting almost three hundred snaps on defense. And

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<v Speaker 1>when he was out there, you know, the defense didn't suffer.

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<v Speaker 1>When guys like Carlton Davis was missing a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of time, the defense didn't suffer. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>thing they really liked about him was he really grasped

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<v Speaker 1>the defense well and was generally where he was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be when he was supposed to be there. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that's the first thing in coaches

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<v Speaker 1>look for is do they understand our assignments and are

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<v Speaker 1>they in the right place. Yeah, that's every coach's dream, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not having to yell and scream at the guys to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the starting point at least for yes. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a question from Logan saying, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Giovanni Bernard is going to be a good veteran half

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<v Speaker 1>back to help Lenny and Roe Joe developed to be

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<v Speaker 1>even better. So we know that there has not been

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<v Speaker 1>official news about Giovanni Bernard, but there is a press

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<v Speaker 1>conference with him happening uh this afternoon, So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that is that we can we can chat about this

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<v Speaker 1>question here. Yeah, I would think so. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, Buck fans, uh can see the pattern there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Buccaneers as a team, and that includes

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<v Speaker 1>are us as an arm of the team doing officially

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<v Speaker 1>announcing thing until the paper is signed. So you're generally

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<v Speaker 1>going to see the news before it's officially announced by

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<v Speaker 1>the team. But the fact that they've scheduled a zoom

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<v Speaker 1>call with him for two thirty afternoon too, thirty in

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<v Speaker 1>the afternoon today is pretty good sign that that is A. A.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good and correct report that the Buccaneers are

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<v Speaker 1>signing running back Jovanni Bernard, who spend his first eight

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<v Speaker 1>seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals, And um, you know, first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, if you just look at it as a

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<v Speaker 1>one for one, Lashawn McCoy is not been resigned, Giovanni

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<v Speaker 1>Bernard now basically takes that spot. And the Bucks didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end up needing a lot from Lashan mcoy last year,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turned out, because Ron Jones was very good

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the offseason, I mean the regular season, and Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournett stopped up in a big way and a few

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<v Speaker 1>times they used Keishaw Vaughn, So that fourth running back

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<v Speaker 1>last year wasn't needed. You can't count on that always happening,

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<v Speaker 1>though they may need him more or they may want

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<v Speaker 1>to carve out a little bit of a role for

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<v Speaker 1>their fourth guy because he was active on some occasions,

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<v Speaker 1>so on most occasions, I would say, So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing about Giovanni Bernard that I would say

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<v Speaker 1>is that he's he's been a very good pass catcher

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<v Speaker 1>throughout his career, and that wasn't something that was a

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<v Speaker 1>real big strength of the Buccaneers backfield last year, Leonard

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<v Speaker 1>Fournette had some good moments there. Ron Jones really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in the passing game very much. We still

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about Keishaw Vaughan of them that great touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>catches that he made. But um, I think right there

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<v Speaker 1>you could see that Bernard might have a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more involved than our fourth running

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<v Speaker 1>back was last year. And and certainly there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>time to figure that out. Okay. Jermaine asked, do you

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<v Speaker 1>see us picking up any more free agents before the

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<v Speaker 1>draft or the season? Yeah, before the Bernard signing. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been seeing that question a little bit in mailbags and

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<v Speaker 1>so on, and I did think there we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be one or two. I think what you'd call value signings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't mean that to be derogatory to the

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<v Speaker 1>players at all. It's just that you get to this

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<v Speaker 1>point in free agency and there's so still some useful

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<v Speaker 1>players out there, but they're not going to command big contracts,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably that's reportedly the case with Jovanni Bernard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a value signing for the Buccaneers. So I could

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<v Speaker 1>see one or two more of those but there's really

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of room for it. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>brought everybody back. We're gonna be adding six or seven

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<v Speaker 1>draft picks and some undrafted free agis after that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look at any season and there are

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<v Speaker 1>signings that happened along the way. Um, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>like last year Leonard Fournett, you know, guys that came

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<v Speaker 1>on a little bit late. Um, it's so yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see it happening, but it's pretty hard to predict

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<v Speaker 1>who that would be. And then of course we've had

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<v Speaker 1>about a thousand people asking about Antonio Brown and the

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<v Speaker 1>status of that, the likelihood of him being resigned, and

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<v Speaker 1>and the implications either way for the team. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I I guess I'd piggyback on what I just

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<v Speaker 1>said about this being the time of free agency when

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about value signings, and that may be what

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<v Speaker 1>we have here. And and I don't want to speak

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<v Speaker 1>for Jason Light or any of our people doing their contracts.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just theoretical speculation, not telling you what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, if you're at the stage and freegency where

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about guys signing kind of value contracts, it

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that that's what the team is hoping for and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they see as the right thing to do, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe the player doesn't agree with that. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, he's still looking for a certain number,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Buccaneers have a certain number and they're just

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<v Speaker 1>not meeting in the middle at the moment um. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that Jason light has said there have been some

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<v Speaker 1>offers made, so it's obviously I would assume that means

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<v Speaker 1>it's not what he's looking for at this point. But

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna have to see in the end who

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<v Speaker 1>who has the right not the right position, but who

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<v Speaker 1>ends up having the correct position. But you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>is he a player that's going to sign for this

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<v Speaker 1>much or is he a player that some team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to give this much? And I've sure he you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd like to find out if that ladder is true,

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<v Speaker 1>right for sure? UM. Mike asked a very interesting question.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, with the seventeen game season, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>the league might expand roster size or at least let

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more players dress on game day? And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we talked about some of these different rules because

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<v Speaker 1>of COVID that happened with like the I R and

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<v Speaker 1>you know all of us of it. Now, do you

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<v Speaker 1>see some of the same things that were done to

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<v Speaker 1>help with COVID maybe implemented because of the seventeen game season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been very interested to see what the final ruling

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<v Speaker 1>and all those rules are, how many of them they keep.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the teams, the coaches really like them, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would actually basically serve the purpose of what this

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<v Speaker 1>question is asking. You know, because we did essentially have

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<v Speaker 1>severaltra or extra roster spots last year. Just having a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen man practice squad pretty much took care of that issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you look at the comings and goings

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the roster last year compared to previous years,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot fewer guys coming and going. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a couple of guys a Q Shippling and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh in Antonio Brown and so on, but you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of the roster tire and usually

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<v Speaker 1>see because you had sixteen guys in your practice squad,

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<v Speaker 1>so you had sixty nine guys essentially every week to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from. Because you could elevate two of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to every week. So just having all

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<v Speaker 1>those and the ability to move them up down, and

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to move up and down from I r

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<v Speaker 1>UM after just three weeks with anybody you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>That gave you basically the flexibility that you needed to

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<v Speaker 1>get through COVID and would do the same thing for

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen game season. And I'm certainly not one to

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<v Speaker 1>downplay the significance of that. I think it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal to add a seventeenth game, and but it is

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<v Speaker 1>just one more game we're talking about, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>getting through the COVID situation last year was probably more

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<v Speaker 1>difficult than one more game. So same rules would probably

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<v Speaker 1>help quite a bit. Right. Of course, we've had people

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<v Speaker 1>ask us if the retired Julian Edelman would be contemplating

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<v Speaker 1>coming to the Buccaneers, which I mean, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>people's credit, you know, Bruce arians was retired, Gronk was retired.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a pattern here of was thinking that, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the Buccaneers may be worth coming out of retirement, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if they maybe some of these guys with the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why everybody's asking that, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your thoughts on what you think the odds would

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<v Speaker 1>be of Edelman becoming a Buccaneer. Yeah, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>obvious to connect the dots there. That was happening before

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<v Speaker 1>he retired. Um and uh, I can see the logic

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And after last year, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>discount any of those kind of theories, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at one point the idea of Gronkowski coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>retirement and joining us seemed like, okay, sure whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that happens and Leonard Fournette cut gets cut? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we learned Fornett? I don't know if we really need

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<v Speaker 1>it then that happens, so certainly we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>discount any of it. One thing to point out is

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<v Speaker 1>the Buck's best slot receiver is Chris Godwin, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you really if slot receivers the number

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<v Speaker 1>one thing the Buccaneers need to add at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>The one player that they haven't had back from last

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<v Speaker 1>year was Antonio Brown, who was more of an outside guy. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know if the but then again, who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what the situation is gonna be like in November

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<v Speaker 1>or December, you know, maybe knock on wood hopefully not.

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<v Speaker 1>But there could be injuries or other developments that that

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<v Speaker 1>make it, you know, make it more platypal to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the moment, it doesn't seem like the perfect fit.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you know, if Tom Brady wants him, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say no. Apparently it is very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>say no to the Crady. That is true, okay, um.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was an interesting question. Richard asked, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>since we don't have any glaring needs to the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>would it be better to trade out of the first

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<v Speaker 1>round since we're basically drafting for depth and special teams?

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<v Speaker 1>So do you agree with that sentiment and in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what we are looking for in the draft, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the trading down would be the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Yes, I agree with that sentiment. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that will necessarily happen because it takes two to tango.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to have somebody that really wants to move

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<v Speaker 1>up um at that moment. But I think that Jason

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<v Speaker 1>light will definitely be keeping his ears open for that

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<v Speaker 1>type of opportunity. Absolutely. If you know, the one negative

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<v Speaker 1>to trading down from from thirty two is that if

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<v Speaker 1>you trade down for thirty two year, you're necessarily trading

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<v Speaker 1>out of the first round, and if you take a

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<v Speaker 1>player in the first round, you get that useful fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option on his four year contract, and that's only

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<v Speaker 1>for first rounders, so you lose that on whichever player

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<v Speaker 1>you take. So if you were if you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>should we move down two or three spots might not

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<v Speaker 1>be worth it. You could probably get the same guy

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<v Speaker 1>three spots later, but then you don't have that fifth

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<v Speaker 1>year option. But if you're talking more like you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of round thirty two and there's seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight guys that you like and you can trade

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<v Speaker 1>down ten or twelve spots, I think it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of sense. On the other hand, and we'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this a little bit in our road to

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<v Speaker 1>the draft this week. The Bucks, the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks don't have a lot of glaring needs. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>it another way. If you have I think we have

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<v Speaker 1>seven draft picks. If you have seven drafts or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>eight eight draft picks, um are do you have room

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<v Speaker 1>on your rest for eight guys to make the team?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you really need to take eight guys? So you

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<v Speaker 1>can look at it either way and say we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really need to add more assets and maybe you could

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<v Speaker 1>use some of that to trade up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>if there's a guy that you like. But to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the original question, I'm a big fan in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation of trading down a little bit. Yes, okay, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll close with this. Anthony said, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>see happening with O. J. Howard this year? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>just what I hope to see is him get a

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<v Speaker 1>little better luck in terms of injuries. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is a situation of a player being injury prone.

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<v Speaker 1>They all seem pretty flukey to me, particularly the first

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<v Speaker 1>two ankle injuries. I mean, an ankle injury is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you stepped a wrong in turns to hell, right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. The Achilles one is maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. But I'm just I don't have seen any

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<v Speaker 1>reason why he should we should worry about him more

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<v Speaker 1>than any other player getting hurt. So let's say he

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<v Speaker 1>has better injury fortune this year. I think you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a very productive player and a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>use in two tight end sets with Rob Gronkowski, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were seeing that in the first four games last year.

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<v Speaker 1>He was off to a really nice start, looked really

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<v Speaker 1>good before his injury, and Bruce arians was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>him the other day and just said, the sky's the limit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember, this is a guy that Bucks were

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely thrilled felled the nineteen to them. Nobody expected, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they thought he might be a top ten pick in

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<v Speaker 1>the draft that year. And I mean that's because he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's got he's so talented, you know. I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just he's huge and fast and talented and you can

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<v Speaker 1>get down the seams, he can make catches over guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a ton of potential for him

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<v Speaker 1>to have a big season if he just gets that

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<v Speaker 1>better injury fortune. Okay, well that's gonna do it for us.

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