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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take Valoti. We are the authorities on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine.

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Speaker 1: If this is the R and Money podcast, what it is,

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Speaker 1: it's the authority on all things all all a capitol

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Speaker 1: l capitoli. L essence of an R and B singer

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Speaker 1: is not just in how he sounds or she or

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Speaker 1: she sounds, It is also in how they look. It's

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Speaker 1: a special addition, special edition episode of when you artists

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Speaker 1: are attracted to the esthetic of an artist. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: an artist that creates that aesthetic, okay, and she is

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Speaker 1: here with us. But dude, it for me since the

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Speaker 1: beginning of my career makes some noise. But the Mika

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Speaker 1: Foster and yeah, yeah yeah, the style icon, herself style icon,

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, styling six Style had style, the style.

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Speaker 3: Me and Coco Chanel together. We're old together.

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Speaker 1: Come on, now you listen. I want to say this.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this off top and then we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into it for all y'all. Just starting to

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Speaker 1: wear chrome hearts. The chrome hearts was put on my

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Speaker 1: body in two thousand by this woman right here, twenty

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Speaker 1: five thousand, dollars belt. That's crazy. Who gata two piece

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Speaker 1: bottom and top? Shit, we've been doing it speaking you're late.

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Speaker 1: I was styled by an eye cock. Birthday twin Tom business.

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Speaker 1: It's the kind of episode today we're tripping today? Nice

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Speaker 1: you know to me it was coming today. Put on

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Speaker 1: a fabric that's that's explicivet EXPLI if you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: if not the little custom rich fresh fish. You know

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Speaker 1: everybody got this size. You ain't built like me. Something

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Speaker 1: You're not built like me. You don't know what you

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Speaker 1: signed up for. Like you got family here today and

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Speaker 1: she got that ship on too. Listen listen when mess

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Speaker 1: question when did you know you had an eye for this?

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I may very poor clothing decisions in

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Speaker 1: my desire to in my transition from church to R

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Speaker 1: and B, because I just I didn't know, and you

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Speaker 1: were the first person that I got to see all

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Speaker 1: oh okay, oh ship okay, So I should all right now,

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Speaker 1: I didn't put the bandannas away, which I should. I

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Speaker 1: should have done that you had. I went to the

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Speaker 1: squat meets, and you know, I was kind of like

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Speaker 1: I was still trying to be you know, I saw

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Speaker 1: R Kelly wear a band. I was like, I need

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Speaker 1: a band. You know you got get one gear? Your

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Speaker 1: fault full? Turning eight? Who the nigga with the Cranberry Bandanna?

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Speaker 3: Did you have to study or bedazzle them?

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't. I didn't do. I think Jane

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Speaker 1: might have did that, and I think I might have

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Speaker 1: stayed away from that because you styled him to you

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Speaker 1: did style, but we really was but like when did

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Speaker 1: you know you had an eye for that? This is

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Speaker 1: did this start like as as a as a as

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Speaker 1: a young girl, like just having super.

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Speaker 3: Young, super young.

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Speaker 4: My aunt Sadie, who is turning one hundred next month.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to see. I can't wait, I'm out here.

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Speaker 4: So she has a big party next month in San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: Oh ship yep at the wharf yep. So anyway, my

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Speaker 4: aunt Satie owned a boutique and I was six years

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Speaker 4: old working in a boutique, like having a separate.

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Speaker 3: Clothes and run around.

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Speaker 4: That was like my first job, first introducing, first introduction

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Speaker 4: to fashion, and I got into it really loving fashion,

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Speaker 4: like brand names, like looking at the labels and learning

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Speaker 4: that now I really love style more than labels and

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Speaker 4: names because I realized the difference.

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Speaker 3: I get the difference.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you was pulling some crazy stuff.

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Speaker 4: I was doing a little fashion back then, so I did.

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Speaker 4: People don't realize that. I don't know what year we

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Speaker 4: with even two thousand, that's how long ago that I

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Speaker 4: had a great relationship partnership with Chrome Hearts. We I

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Speaker 4: did a couple of artists. I did you ushers a

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Speaker 4: Confession's album cover. That's all Chrome Hearts. All that jewelry,

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Speaker 4: all that gold and everything on Confessions the cover. People

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Speaker 4: don't realize that's all Chrome Hearts head to toe.

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Speaker 3: Always wow.

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Speaker 1: Anybody over there, because be paying full know what?

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Speaker 3: They never discounted.

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Speaker 4: No, No, they'll give you something if you wear it

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Speaker 4: on the Grammys maybe, but no. I mean I was

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Speaker 4: just looking at a performance from the VMA's that I did.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what year that was, but full chrome Hearts.

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Speaker 4: I think he got to keep the leather pants like

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Speaker 4: they really they don't do it, and I kind of

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Speaker 4: like that. It doesn't want their brand down. They make

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Speaker 4: it hard to get I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. So was it hard for you breaking into

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, let me tell you the way this thing

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Speaker 4: started was very funny.

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Speaker 1: Back to the Bay.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the Bay. It wasn't the Bay.

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Speaker 1: I didn't start. I don't want to start. Everything all started.

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Speaker 4: It started to Bay because I was born in the Bay,

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Speaker 4: if you will. No, but I got here. I went

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Speaker 4: to the Fashion Institute down you know, downtown. I went

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Speaker 4: to Fashion Institute. I wanted to be a merchandise marketing person.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to be a buyer basically for all the stores.

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Speaker 4: So I learned the kind of the theory and the

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Speaker 4: how to price items, how to do displays, how to

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Speaker 4: run a store, a boutique, whatever. And then I had

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Speaker 4: a friend named Todd. Todd worked for bif ten, Michael Bivitts,

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Speaker 4: had a group coming out and he was like, I

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Speaker 4: need you to fix my group. Get him right, And

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Speaker 4: I was like, get him right? What I So he

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Speaker 4: was like, the girls I wanted to look like you.

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Speaker 4: Just get them, make them all have flavor like you.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Like, you know when you get dressed. You don't really

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Speaker 3: I didn't know. So it was called Subway in seven

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Speaker 4: So my first, my first official video was Subway, this

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Speaker 4: little game we played.

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Speaker 1: That's how.

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Speaker 3: I'm really dating myself. So from there, I did not

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Speaker 4: I you know, Hi, Sorry, Michael, Yeah, I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even know what to charge.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it seems like at least you had

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Speaker 3: I did you know I had.

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Speaker 4: I knew color theory. I knew what colors, you know,

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Speaker 4: what like people are animals. You know they match match, match, like,

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Speaker 4: oh you're gonna wear black, you're gonna wear white like this.

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Speaker 4: But I knew that you can wear gray and you

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Speaker 4: can put blue, and you can do this. You know,

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Speaker 4: I knew.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't know how to pull clothes. I didn't

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Speaker 4: How you acquire the clothes and the Another really good

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Speaker 4: point to be known is that designers were not giving

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Speaker 4: y'all clothes, right, No, no, no, they didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: Give you guys clothes, like I'd have to be like, no,

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Speaker 3: this is actually for Nat King Cole, like they did

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Speaker 4: I'm pulling for Usher or Tank or h Jesse Jesse

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Speaker 4: Powell and all those, all my early clients. They're looking

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Speaker 4: at me like who we never you know, they hadn't

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Speaker 4: Like I used to write letters, like my office will

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Speaker 4: tell you my old assistants, who are now all doing

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Speaker 4: have formal letters that had to go out to request

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Speaker 3: To even get any of the stuff. Yeah, because I knew.

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Speaker 3: I knew y'all have potential.

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Speaker 5: I knew.

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Speaker 3: Somebody I saw something me and you, I swear I did.

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Speaker 1: Did you did you know? Because what you said earlier

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Speaker 1: is that you know he said he wanted all of

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Speaker 1: the girls to look like you. Yeah, did you know

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Speaker 1: that you had a thing like did you know that

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Speaker 1: you would fly? Or you would just kind of like I.

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Speaker 4: Don't even think I was flying. You know what it is?

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Speaker 4: Fly is such a culmination of things. It's a demeanor.

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Speaker 4: It's an aura.

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Speaker 3: It's it's kind of how you speak, how you move.

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Speaker 4: Like I can come and hang out with you guys

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Speaker 4: and afterwards and we'll chop it up and crack up

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Speaker 4: about everybody. Not all girls can do that. I'm like

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Speaker 4: know y'all want to say I knew she was a man,

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Speaker 4: Don't kidding, but no, But SERI, I can hang with

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Speaker 3: So I had a thing. It's a genesis quad. It's

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Speaker 4: It wasn't always about style or fashion. So that's where

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Speaker 4: and you may or may not, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: For a second, think about it was the mannequin for

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Speaker 3: You were you used to wear all that head to doe.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when I got a little money, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I need all of that and the clips that.

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Speaker 1: Hold it all I mean, yeah him, whatever that's doing man,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, because you think like me as a kid,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know I didn't grow up in anything fashionable, nothing,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean I was in Milwaukee. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: So but then even getting older, moving in Maryland and

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Speaker 1: finally making a little money in the church and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that, like I would like venture off into like

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Cole. But then but but but the suit was

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Speaker 1: still oak Tree. You know what I'm saying out there,

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Speaker 1: because I still needed the discount suit. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. You get the suit and for nine you

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Speaker 1: had a lot of listen and the oak Tree with

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Speaker 1: a oak Tree suit, with the with the Kenneth Colt shoe,

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Speaker 1: and then I top it off with a a Sachi.

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Speaker 3: He'll appreciate this. I used to work at oak Tree,

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Speaker 3: so like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's what I'm talking about, and he sta Tree,

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Speaker 1: this is an come on. Now.

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Speaker 4: I used to work at the ones in the where

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Speaker 4: Norseman was in San Francisco, that big uh they closed

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Speaker 4: now Norham, But yeah on Powell, that whole thing I

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Speaker 4: worked in.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So that was my you know, and that was

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Speaker 1: church kind of style, which is different, way different from

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, street style, street and entertainment style.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was ancient, Like where do

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Speaker 1: you get that stood in ancient? Until I went on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my other client.

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Speaker 4: he didn't want nothing. No, if he saw it in

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Speaker 3: He wanted to straight up Gordon Gartrail at all times. Period.

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Speaker 2: But there's but there's it's it's so when you say that, right,

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Speaker 3: There has to be a separation individuality, Yes.

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Speaker 2: There has, especially in entertainment. We are not supposed to

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Speaker 3: That's true. But sometimes, let me tell you this, sometimes

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Speaker 1: More, for sure, agreed, agreed, and that's when sometimes niggas

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Speaker 2: We have to have individuality in order for somebody to

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Speaker 3: Yes and no. Let me tell you what I say.

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Speaker 4: Some of my favorite fashion style icons are like James Dean.

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Speaker 4: There's like classic I keep. I can't say this enough.

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Speaker 1: But that nigga wasn't saying but he was actor, but.

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Speaker 3: He was what women look.

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Speaker 4: It's not about just what you do, it's about it's

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Speaker 3: That's what the goal is.

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Speaker 4: Whenever I'm styling an artist or I get a client,

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Speaker 4: That's how you create a strong image. If it's a

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Speaker 1: So you couldn't style Prince.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm but see, I'm also a Michael Jackson person.

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Speaker 4: So you know, growing up in Oakland, you were prince

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Speaker 4: I was mj to the bone. Like it was like

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, Michael.

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Speaker 3: Jackson was Prince of Michael Jackson. Like you had to.

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Speaker 3: You had to choose a team, pick a side.

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Speaker 2: My mother and my father. My father was Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: My mother was prince.

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Speaker 3: My mother was prince too.

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Speaker 2: My mother was Prince. He's the only the only lights

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Speaker 3: Really what, Yeah, she wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Fucking with nothing. I don't know. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: You had to make you had to, man, you had

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Speaker 3: So I was Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 4: Because then he was like, I don't know what, but

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Speaker 1: But it was still not normal. It's still not normal.

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Speaker 1: I still wasn't wearing normal clothes.

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Speaker 2: At a point, Nah, that man had on a cart

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Speaker 2: first of all I Mike had Rosie cheeks.

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Speaker 1: He was out here putting your chicks and my cheeks

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Speaker 1: right now. After off the Wall, y'all gonna see these checks.

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Speaker 1: After off the Wall, Mike went somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: He did on that yellow cardigan yellow the yellow cardigan

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Speaker 1: That ship ain't normal, were selling something, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't hurt my life.

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Speaker 2: But he was an entertainer, right like actors can get

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Speaker 2: off the whole, you know, aesthetic of every man, but

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Speaker 1: I am the man. I'm him, So what separates me

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Speaker 1: and makes me him? So? To me? When when artists

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Speaker 1: do you know certain things that maybe I don't agree

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I get it.

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Speaker 5: That's you know, you're getting your ship off.

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Speaker 4: I struggle with that, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 4: struggle with it because I'm super I am. I'm probably

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Speaker 4: from now and not hate it. I don't want to

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Speaker 4: be like, remember them big old bell old bottoms, Like

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I don't want I don't

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, there are very adventurous stylists and

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Speaker 4: It's okay.

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Speaker 3: I'd be like, no, that's not because I know that

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Speaker 3: you're going to look back at it and regret it.

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Speaker 4: So if you know, sometimes less is more and classic

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Speaker 4: it just transcends time.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a regrettable I have a lot of them.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I will say, right here, where's the camera. I

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Speaker 4: am not the fashion icon.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I'm not without flaw in that regard I have. Do

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Speaker 4: I have great style and taste? Yes, But sometimes it's

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Speaker 4: in hindsight, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I've messed up. I've definitely messed up on a few.

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Speaker 2: Not that many have to, though, And I you know

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Speaker 2: you say that you're not, but I believe that you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You know, since we said about about to pull up

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Speaker 2: a fit, well we not about.

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Speaker 1: To pull up.

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Speaker 4: Let me think I think it's real bad, Like Jeopardy Music,

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Speaker 4: she says she's not right, so she says she's not

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Speaker 4: a fashion icon.

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Speaker 1: I just want to just go down the list here,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Hill, White, Cleft, Sean Beyonce, Yeah, jay Z, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin, pedl Leabelle, Chaka Khan, Sierra h Town, Foujis Aliah,

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Speaker 1: Tony Braxton, Mary j Blige, Timberland, Tweet, Brian McKnight, Blue

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Speaker 1: Can Trail, Jim pro Usher, Music, Soul Child, Jesse Fay,

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Speaker 1: Ashanti Nas Genuine, Raham, Devon, True Hill, LaToya look at Next,

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Speaker 1: Chris browns Is, Chris Tucker, Maxwell, Lloyd, Anthony Hamilton, Sam Salter,

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Speaker 1: Something for the People, Jesse Powell, Life, Jennings Applies, That's great,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Gates, O Marion, Sammy, Glenn Lewis, Cardinal offic Show, Tank,

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Speaker 1: Joe LeVert, Joe John Tay, Austin, Seminole Two, Pharrell, Doctor,

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Speaker 1: Dre t I, Jagged Edge Guru, Mace Silk, Sugar Free

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Speaker 1: and more.

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Speaker 4: Dude, But can I tell you the one person I

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Speaker 4: didn't hear in that list, and it's very important. I

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Speaker 4: will shout Hi out right now because he's my favorite client,

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Speaker 4: one of them.

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Speaker 3: Lloyd Lloyd. Lloyd. Lloyd is my guy, Lloyd.

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Speaker 1: I love Lloyd.

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Speaker 3: Lloyd is such a are Lloyd fans here, Lloyd, I

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Speaker 3: love you. Lloyd knows and he is. He's a capcorn.

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Speaker 3: I knew it.

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Speaker 1: So you know this is not This is not normal, right,

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Speaker 1: You're your client listing and the people saying, hey, what

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Speaker 1: whatever she's doing? I need that. It's not normal, right,

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Speaker 1: Like that's like, okay, maybe four or five of these referrals. Yea.

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Speaker 1: Outside of that, it just becomes what you do. We

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Speaker 1: need to make him, we need to make it.

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Speaker 4: More than a style person. I'm kind of more of etiquette.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of it's kind of an etiquette thing. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of come on, now, when you had that on,

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to sit like this because you don't care.

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Speaker 3: Because this is something I would say, like, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You put that on and you grab your when you singing,

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Speaker 4: and you need to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I'm showing that.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of choreography, but not in the dance. I'm

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Speaker 4: I kind of give swagger like it's a swagger coach. Huh,

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Speaker 4: That's what I think maybe I change. I'm sorry changing

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Speaker 4: my title swag coach.

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Speaker 1: No really, no, for real, When you put on certain ship, you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta act difference.

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Speaker 4: And I always say, don't let that thing where you.

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Speaker 4: You're wearing it. So if you got it on, don't

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Speaker 4: just have your sleeves like I have on the new

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Speaker 4: Gucci collections from the I got Pharrell's new runway.

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Speaker 3: No, dude, don't let it.

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Speaker 4: You gotta wear it, throw it on and your attitude

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Speaker 4: has to match the garment or I'm gonna change.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't wear that because you ain't ready.

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Speaker 3: That's flyer than you right now. Ye can't be flyer

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Speaker 3: than you. You gotta be the fly one.

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Speaker 4: It's your demeanor, it's it's what you're giving. You gotta

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Speaker 4: be able to pull it off. But then you also

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Speaker 4: can't be too extra. It's always like, right, Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: gotta find a balance of balance.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're hired for these jobs because people understand that

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Speaker 2: you know the balance and.

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Speaker 1: Hired you know I didn't. I never hired and fired

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Speaker 1: anybody that kind of power. Joe probably fired you and

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Speaker 1: like Jo walking with that confid what the is all

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 4: What I was an over budget queen ship.

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Speaker 3: I saw more for you people. Did he deserves hers?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean this first album? It's the first album,

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Speaker 1: the first album, the second video.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ask Lloyd this second video.

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Speaker 1: I take it's my new artist. Yeah, I'm firing you too.

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Speaker 3: So you got twenty you had the same voice. He

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Speaker 3: had the same voice.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: You see he had the same ability.

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Speaker 1: So okay, you said the future.

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Speaker 3: I did see the future.

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Speaker 4: I promise you, Like, if you bring me an artist

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Speaker 4: and I know that artist is mediocre, I'm definitely not

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Speaker 4: using all my contacts on that person.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no offense.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to go in and be pulling from

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Speaker 4: Fucci and every you know, getting close from everywhere and

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Speaker 4: putting my credit cards on the line, because that's what

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Speaker 4: I used to do.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot.

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Speaker 2: Speak on that speak on the business side. Come on,

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Speaker 2: because because we have aspiring stylist sure swag icons that

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Speaker 2: are watching this and haven't become that yet and they're

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Speaker 5: Get to do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the business side. That you need some

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Speaker 1: credit cards? You need what do you need? What you

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Speaker 1: need to get in this game?

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Speaker 4: Is very relationship base in terms of what stores you

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Speaker 4: can pull from. What I mean, my artists have burned

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Speaker 4: a lot of bridges for me, by the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I have been on set.

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Speaker 4: I've done you know, the rapper and all his homeboys

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Speaker 4: and the click I won't say any names. And they

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Speaker 4: come in all their homeboys who are not signing to

439
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 4: anybody shit, you know. Yeah, Oh taking the Cardier frames.

440
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 4: You want them because they like them.

441
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: And I'm like, what are those fifteen hundred dollars? Oh?

442
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 4: Guess who has to eat it right because you can't

443
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: pinpoint who took them.

444
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: But you know is one of those guys. So you

445
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

446
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: I used to get messed up, I used to get burned,

447
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: but I was never in it for the money. I

448
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 4: really had a passion for it. I really love the

449
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 4: final outcome. I love to see it all come together,

450
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like all the pull, all

451
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: the days are running around and trying to find the

452
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: size forty three and we got he can't get the

453
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: poidser I need the black holees because they go with

454
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,120
Speaker 4: the and going through all of that and then actually

455
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 4: seeing the actual day of the video and all the

456
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 4: fire and all the pyrole and stuff happened, and.

457
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: I'd be like, that's why I do this. I love, love,

458
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: love what I do. I love what I did. I'm

459
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 3: kind of retired, sort of semi so.

460
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: Like we're a lot of the like explain to them,

461
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: like the pools that are pulled and then returned, because

462
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: I think people still don't realize that the even red

463
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: carpets and all of these things, like those clothes ain't

464
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: in the closet.

465
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 3: Lot is very very very much borrowed, very much borrow very.

466
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: Much borrowed, and you got to have either the relationships.

467
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: Like a wedding day or some money to put something.

468
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you relationships or some money to put up

469
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: and the money to put up. Because even with pools,

470
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 2: because obviously I got friends that are stylists as well,

471
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: like there's a there's a fee that.

472
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: So there are stores that you can go to that's

473
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: again new stylists. If I could say anything to you,

474
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 4: don't don't put all your eggs in one basket because

475
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,719
Speaker 4: every every artist and every client isn't worth you burning,

476
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: you know, and going through all these different stories in

477
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 4: these relationships. So yeah, you got to be kind of mindful,

478
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: don't go crazy on everybody.

479
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: I think stylists to see stylists.

480
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 4: I don't even like to call myself that anymore because

481
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: it's it's a kind of water down term.

482
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's a stylist.

483
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's not a stylist.

484
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: Well they call themselves it, so you know if they

485
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: worked at J Crew for three days.

486
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody's not a stylist, just like everybody says they're

487
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: an artist, or everybody says that they're a rapper, or

488
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: everybody says you can say whatever you want to say.

489
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: The proof is in in that that that list. When

490
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: when when the papers come out, right you know what

491
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and and and the budgets come out, there

492
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: are people who are going to get those budgets to

493
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: do those things for these people that I just named,

494
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like like like Drake said,

495
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: if you don't tell me you are amount of if

496
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: you ain't been in vogue, Like there are levels.

497
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: But then also also having like vision boards, people people

498
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: also think like, oh, I'm just gonna come in Salmon

499
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: stylist because I know how to get dressed. But can

500
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: they also put it together for someone to see issue.

501
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 4: In order to get the job, you're going to laugh

502
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: to work with Usher, I had to do a presentation

503
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: at his label, you know, Flana shout out to Flana Williams.

504
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 4: I had to come with like boards, I had like

505
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: fabric to watches and sketches, like literally I had to

506
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: put together a serious presentation.

507
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: What makes sense though, because it's like.

508
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 3: It worked out, Yeah, because.

509
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: It's like, what is I mean, what is the audition

510
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: for that? You know what I'm saying. When you get

511
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: to that level of an artist, it's like, at that

512
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 1: level of an artist, they want to see, you know,

513
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: not so much so what you've done, because what you've

514
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: done is definitely going to get you in the room,

515
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: but they want to see what exactly can you do?

516
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Just for me? Yeah, it's something that nobody else has

517
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: done or can do.

518
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: Somewhere in one of my storages, I will have those

519
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: original because they brought me in after he did.

520
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: I think it was popular collar.

521
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 4: And somebody knew that you needed to I need to

522
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: shake things up and kind of give it an edge,

523
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 4: which is.

524
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: Obviously what it has now.

525
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 4: And I think my first job was you got it bad?

526
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 4: Probably My first video was you got you got it

527
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: Bad and I wanted again. That was the two things

528
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 4: that I wanted to marry, no pun, but the two

529
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: things that I wanted to put together was women to

530
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 4: want him and men to want to be like him,

531
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: you know. So that was you got it bad, where

532
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: you're ripping it you know, yep yep. So you need

533
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: a certain certain sex appeal that had to happen, and

534
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: a certain masculine vibe had to happen too, because it's

535
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: a it's a fine line. Because with art, with you

536
00:28:52,760 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: mail artists, it's a fine line from feminine to masculine.

537
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: You guys have to really know you're riding a line. Today,

538
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: I guess it doesn't matter because this is a very

539
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: fluid world where in.

540
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: But you can identify as anything.

541
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: I'm a giraffe.

542
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 4: I like, I didn't learn to.

543
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: Style a giraffe.

544
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know what I mean. It's different now,

545
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: But just I'm old school.

546
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: You are ol school. Cause remember I saw you one time.

547
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: I can't remember what I had what I had on,

548
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: but I was on my I was on my Miami

549
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Vice early. You know what I'm saying. It was the suit,

550
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: it was the the it was the cut off. The

551
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: pant was cut off right at the ankle. You know

552
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Low for no socks, you gotta put

553
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: some damn socks on.

554
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 3: What because I don't follow trim?

555
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: Just guess what your ankle beat is?

556
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: That style gone?

557
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: Have you seen? It's kind of gone?

558
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: What's that going?

559
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: Dude still got no songs on in little short pants.

560
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Little shirt pans on. No, I don't think nobody.

561
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Wearing some damn pedal pushes on y'all. I'm sorry, I

562
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 3: don't like. I ain't with it.

563
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: I did a no sock thing.

564
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm okay with no socks. I'm okay with.

565
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: I think it. But also like it's as we go back,

566
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: like to Genuine, it's it's how you own a thing, right,

567
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Like I watched Genuine own he owned some hush puppies

568
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: and a Jane West silk silver shirt.

569
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: It's for dancing.

570
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: It's not a defense thing because he don't need defending.

571
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, oh, I'll put that shit on and

572
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: he and he'll go out there and he'll rock sixty

573
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: thousand people and they will not know the difference. Right

574
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: because that man Genuine went to work. Well.

575
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: First of all, he's in Kentucky. They don't know.

576
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: Man, it's not just Kentucky. Right for Dallas Houston, we

577
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: were in major cities with these silky If he had

578
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: one on, I had one, it was falling out. If

579
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: he had one on falling out, he was the genuine,

580
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: was the man. So it was just like I remember,

581
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: I remember it had to be Dallas.

582
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: That was his wife.

583
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: By the way, he did remember had to swirly swirl, right, swirl.

584
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: That ain't fir.

585
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 4: That asked, where you get above my pay grade? I

586
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: don't do the hair.

587
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: So I saw a grown man with the genuine swirly swirl.

588
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: What was their swirl?

589
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: It was just your hair had a little quickly a

590
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: nigga had. And that's when it was like, okay, So

591
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: Jackson had a drop curl. He had to drop. Jackson

592
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: had to little I'm gonna go back to your guy

593
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: because I know that's guy. That's your too much.

594
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 3: Not the drop cirl he did. I had it too.

595
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 4: That's what that you're right was going on because I

596
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 4: had it to.

597
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: I had to go on to get that girl too.

598
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: And the reason I murpher genuine is because I think,

599
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: like even as we say, genuine, who is my brother?

600
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's he's crazy in terms of style,

601
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: but I think he was such an amazing artist that

602
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: that part of it didn't really matter for him because

603
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: he was that amazing of an artist.

604
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: No, but he had a vision.

605
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: He knew, he knew, he knew exactly what you walked in.

606
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: Not on I give me the green like you gonna

607
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: wear the green? The green? Okay? Do you think though

608
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: that artists have been artist artists have been hurt, you

609
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean in terms of their ability to

610
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: connect to an audience because their styling wasn't right.

611
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: I have to say this, I firmly believe that success

612
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: as an artist is forty talent, forty low forty sixty

613
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: percent imagery style because people fall in love with you

614
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 4: as a as a thing first the talent and stuff.

615
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 4: Of course, it will sustain you and will keep you there.

616
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: But you have to have the right imaging. You have

617
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: to have the right imaging. And I just I'll stand

618
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: behind that, you know, and I'm sure artists and labels

619
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: will arguably, no, he can sing.

620
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Right now in four Yeah, they are not going to

621
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: argue with you.

622
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: They will argue because I even I have gone to

623
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: labels now, I'm looking at artists now and today they

624
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 4: need imaging so bad.

625
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'll say it like this, they are definitely

626
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: looking for a certain esthetic. Yeah, that is completely like now.

627
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: It used to be a time where you used to

628
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: be able to separate the artists from the other people

629
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: that were in attendance. It used to be a time.

630
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: But now that the look, the rap look, the rap

631
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: street look is I don't know who that is, right,

632
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't know who has no idea who that is.

633
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't know which one, but it's it's for some

634
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: reason that aesthetic is driving the marketplace. Yeah, literally one

635
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour.

636
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I would do. If they

637
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: called me and say I.

638
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 4: Need you to do any of the littles and all

639
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: those different raps, I'd be like, ooh, I don't know

640
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 4: what to put on them.

641
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: I just go in my closet and just bringing some shit.

642
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

643
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 3: I'd be like I got something I know, I don't

644
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: know what to do.

645
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: It's like if everybody's trying to find the separation, I

646
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: think like a guy like Travis Scott has figured out

647
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: the separation. Yeah, you know what I mean, like and

648
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: it's subtle, but it's so it's different. I mean, but

649
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,720
Speaker 1: you you also will myself.

650
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: I want an earring in my nose. I'm like, which

651
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 4: rapper I have to think? Like, which one of y'all

652
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: got earring? Y'all nose copying? No, you can't get that.

653
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: But what happens with like you said, a Travis Scott

654
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,320
Speaker 2: right or Kendrick Lamar. They also separate themselves by finding

655
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, by being like, you know what,

656
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm not just gonna buy this Montclair puff jacket and

657
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: these you know, these purple jeans and sagam and be

658
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 2: like everybody else. It's like no, no, no, no, no, I'm

659
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: going to actually go and find what my style is.

660
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm going to go in and now

661
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: cover this sixty percent because I got my talent.

662
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: Is that what they're doing?

663
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Well?

664
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: I think that Kendrick Kendrick definitely for sure.

665
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: But I'm saying I think guys now are just they

666
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 4: have huge budgets because they got money and stuff, so

667
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: they just go like I'm going to Louis Vuitton, I'm

668
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 4: gonna buy all the Farraill's new stuff and get the tims.

669
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 3: And da da da, I'm gonna to Gucci and get

670
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: all the new.

671
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: They just want the new. They don't care if it's style.

672
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 4: I think it's just designer.

673
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: But I think that's the I think that's the pack. Yeah,

674
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 2: I think I think that's the pack. But I think

675
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: the guys that are above that pack from R and

676
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: b our hip hop art whatever, are still separating themselves.

677
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 2: Are still separating themselves, you know what I mean, Like,

678
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: in my opinion.

679
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: No, no, because you're not going to see anybody with

680
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: what Beyonce has on. No, when you go see Beyonce

681
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: and show wherever you pull upon and.

682
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: If you see anybody with it on, they're trying to

683
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: copy her.

684
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 1: They took a picture somewhere, so can you make.

685
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 4: That they like make anything close. Yeah, she's definitely doing original.

686
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: Like what would be your what would be your advice

687
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 2: to an artist with selecting a stylist.

688
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: Sitting on the other.

689
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: Side, I would tell an artist to interview a couple

690
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: of people and number one, see if you match energies,

691
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: because if she comes in and she's like in.

692
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: My former life stercle, Yeah.

693
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying, if they're not if

694
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: you don't have the same vibe, you don't even like

695
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: the same music, that's probably not your person. You need

696
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: a person that understands your music. Because what I always do,

697
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: I sit down with a client and I'll say, tell

698
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 4: me what you don't like? Okay, what will you what

699
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: colors do you hate? What will you never wear? That's

700
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: what I ask, because that eliminates a whole category. Then

701
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 4: I have to waste my time in the store picking

702
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 4: out gray. And you hate gray, You're never gonna wear gray?

703
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: So then why do I pull all this gray stuff?

704
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: So you ask them what they don't You got to

705
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 4: learn the mind of the client. And so I would

706
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: tell an artist who's trying to choose a stylist, make

707
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: sure she understands who you are and what you're trying

708
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 4: to convey, because she needs to want. I always say,

709
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: send me the music, and you tell somebody. Yeah, they

710
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: call me and they say, I want you to do

711
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: I got this new girl, she's done it. I'd be like,

712
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: send me her music, yeah, and let me listen to it.

713
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 4: And if I can close my eyes and say I

714
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 4: get it, she's like Megan Trainer or she wants to

715
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 4: do adele. She's trying to be you know, and then

716
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: I can see it. Then I can visualize. Then I say,

717
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: you know, where's I is. Then I think about what

718
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna you build it. Styling is more. It's mental

719
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 4: because you got to think of you're trying to sell

720
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: this concept and this image to the masses.

721
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 3: That's what we're hoping to make some money.

722
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, So that's you know, there's there's a lot

723
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: more into it. It's not just you like clothes and

724
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 4: you you got relationships at Bottega and you can run

725
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: and go get all the stuff. Botaga may not even

726
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: be his style. He shouldn't have on one thing Botaga.

727
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 4: I don't care if the manager is your cousin, you

728
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that ain't his style. It's conservative,

729
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: it's you know, that's not his look. So yeah, that's

730
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 4: that's what's really important. It's not about designers, about understanding

731
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: the image and the body type.

732
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, that matters. I think that's the biggest part.

733
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Like an artist has to has to understand, like has

734
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: to be understood.

735
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: They also gotta understand themselves too.

736
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: This is too because I mean, I'll take it from me,

737
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: like I didn't know what I was supposed to look like.

738
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was. I was a

739
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: cross between in terms of talent. I was a cross

740
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: between Brian and Knight and r Kelly and Babyface all

741
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: all three different spectrums of a of a of a

742
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: of a style you know what I mean, a style conversation.

743
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: So I didn't know. I didn't know who it was.

744
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: So you guys were like, you guys were fostering, you know,

745
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: those moments for me so that I can identify something

746
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: or try to. So it took me a minute after that,

747
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: burn all my stuff in my closet at one time.

748
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: Because I loved Zara and I think was very dear.

749
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 3: I loved them.

750
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: I know I loved.

751
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: Anymore.

752
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: They just get me because it's so easy, the cut

753
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: of I had a relationship with Zara that was unmatched.

754
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: Needs to hire a black designer.

755
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: There we go.

756
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: That way, you can marry the two, you know, the

757
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 4: European stuff because in the.

758
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: Beginning they had it. In the beginning, that boy was

759
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: red carpet. You kidding me. I'm like, so you're gonna

760
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna wear that transformers? I remember I remember I

761
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: was in lived with a couple of pieces. Yeah, and

762
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: I walked up on Brian. You know, he.

763
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: Knows he gets on, you know, because it's not cut.

764
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm smaller than they make twos. You know what, We'll

765
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: get out of there, shout out to.

766
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: My brother whatever that's.

767
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: We looked at each other because nobody was in Zoar

768
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: at that time, and I was like, you know, he's like, nigga,

769
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: stay out my store.

770
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 6: Nigga store, nigga claiming, claiming, and then like and then

771
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 6: like I just stayed on a few years too long.

772
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: And Jay was like, I think if we're going to

773
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: go to the next level, we got to start with

774
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: your styling in the imagery. And I'm like, I'm all ears.

775
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, they lead the way, Like, show me

776
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: where I need the bee. He walks in the closet.

777
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: He's like, we should we should we should burn all

778
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: of this. You said that we should burn all of that.

779
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: I was like that we started said burn all that's everything.

780
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should burn it because we go back to

781
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: we go back to rite the imagery side of it.

782
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: And in my this is just my opinion.

783
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: And I appreciated my brother for listening to me in

784
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: that space because.

785
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: He already was. He was tank. It wasn't like I

786
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: was inheriting something that, oh this is just terrible. You

787
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: gotta fit.

788
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: No, it's just like, no, okay, what are the little

789
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 2: things that what are the tweaks that we can make

790
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,919
Speaker 2: for the places that we're trying to go right?

791
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Because you can't.

792
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: It's just you know this from a from a style standpoint,

793
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 2: you can't wear the same outfit to different places.

794
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: Some places.

795
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, if if I'm invited to the White House,

796
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: I gotta get White House ready.

797
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: Hey, it is what it is.

798
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: So we were trying to elevate R and B music

799
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: for him. I'm not trying to do it with everybody else.

800
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: That's that wasn't our plan. It wasn't like, oh, well

801
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: R and B is this so we now, I'm not

802
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 2: telling y'all what to do. We have business together. We're

803
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: partners in our business. He came up with the name

804
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: R and B Money. I said, okay, listen, okay, so

805
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: if we R and B Money, it gotta.

806
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: Look like they gotta feel like it's what I said.

807
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: About my show.

808
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: They wouldn't let me. Yeah, but you're right.

809
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: These are the things that we have to do to

810
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 2: get to the places where we're trying to go to.

811
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: And because sometimes it's not just about the talent or

812
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: the music, it's the surrounding things that propel those things

813
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: to propel that thing.

814
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: So now everybody now says, oh, well, now that I

815
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: think you're fresh, you're talented.

816
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 4: As hell, by the way you can see by the

817
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 4: way you can see that, I could see that many

818
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 4: years ago.

819
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: It's tank.

820
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: But I was literally looking at it from a consumer standpoint.

821
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: What do I see when I see him?

822
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What do I see when

823
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I see her? That's how I've always operated in business.

824
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 3: You're like artists, development, you get it.

825
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: It's where we all come from. That's where we all

826
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: come from.

827
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's sometimes though, we we forget about

828
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 2: that part.

829
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you think labels and everybody should bring that back?

830
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, they should bring it back. But it all

831
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: depends on the business that they're in, Right, If they're

832
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: in the business of building career artists, then yes, for sure.

833
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 4: But if they're just in the business resume around trying

834
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: to get a job doing. Because I wanted to bring

835
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: it back like Motown used to have.

836
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: But now they're just like what they're just in the

837
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: business of selling music a piece at a time. Yeah,

838
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: So the artist technically doesn't matter. The development of the

839
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: artists technically doesn't matter because they're getting hot off the

840
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: phone getting.

841
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: The only real option, honestly is to create it and

842
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: then deliver it. That's I mean, honestly, I mean I

843
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: understand your mindset of like, yeah, I send it to

844
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: these labels, so because there's a check involved in that,

845
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 2: in it and it keeps it going while you're while

846
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: you're doing it.

847
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is.

848
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: It's finding and developing it and then saying, hey, you

849
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: know now, you guys got to pay a premium for

850
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: it because because we're here now and this you see

851
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: how polished you.

852
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Remember, remember that word, this was a word. Polished was

853
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: a word a word.

854
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: You don't hear it much anymore, that artist polished.

855
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: We don't see it much no more.

856
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, we don't want to

857
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: Back in the day what they were one hundred.

858
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: It was not.

859
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 4: You had to have everybody that came out of the

860
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: machine amazing.

861
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: That's why that's a legendary label. Why those artists a

862
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: legend because they took that time to develop. Now, like

863
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 1: you said, it's it's just a quicker turnover piece of

864
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: the time. So trying to sell that as I'm just

865
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: going to come in and work with you, guys are

866
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: for you. Guys within this space, You're not going to happen.

867
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: They'll give you a headache.

868
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: I have a clothing brand called Elkish.

869
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 4: I mean my son's name backwards, Kyle ish Mail was

870
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 4: his name. He passed away, so I took his name

871
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: and I kind of inverted. So all my business endeavors

872
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 4: now are dedicated to Kyle. You know, you lose a child,

873
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 4: that's where you that's where your mind goes. So I

874
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 4: still love style. I still love fashion a little bit,

875
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 4: but I love style more than anything. So I have

876
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 4: Eli Kish, which is athleisure and luxury lounge wear. So

877
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: this is like you can, you know, go from the

878
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: couch to the cabana, you know, if you want to

879
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: throw it on and you go, you know, from your

880
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: pool and say let's take a flight and you can

881
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: throw it on some shoes and you're cute, still comfy,

882
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: cozy clothing, and then I'm doing animation. Yeah, I'm getting

883
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 4: an animation world. So I'm writing stories, you know. I

884
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 4: have on my second but I've written two books already.

885
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 4: The books here, I stand in a beautiful State. That's

886
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 4: my memoir about my life, how I got into styling,

887
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera. And then I have white Bras

888
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: and one hundred and one style faux pause. Oh yeah,

889
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: I'm killing funny. I talk about lace fronts, etiquette on planes.

890
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 4: Don't bring a hot as that because think about yo,

891
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: don't raise it.

892
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I talk about that choke you. I will cure

893
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 3: you about some curry that and guess what.

894
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 4: The food may taste good to you, but to the

895
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 4: passenger it stinks. Or coming into a space and being

896
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 4: loud and obnoxious. I hated it turned you because style

897
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 4: is not just what you wear.

898
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: It's the manner in what you do things.

899
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 4: Your style. That's that's your style of a person. How

900
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: you just how you move. So I talk about how

901
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 4: you move your style. So my book White bra so

902
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 4: I have that. I did that first and then I

903
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 4: wrote my memoir. Now I'm doing animated children's book as

904
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: a whole series, The Odd Life of Kyle Lyles is cool.

905
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 4: Going to be pop culture heavy, style heavy, of course,

906
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,439
Speaker 4: and it'll have learning and teachable moments for the kids

907
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 4: when they read each episode and each you know, hopefully

908
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: it'll be a cartoon.

909
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: That's what we're working on getting.

910
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean we of course we're going to support you,

911
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: but we would love to have some of that on

912
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: on our bodies. Yeah, some athletes here, because I keep

913
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: that's a pleasure right there.

914
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: And then you got your show coming on TV.

915
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on

916
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: with the Rosie cheeks. Let the television. Yeah yeah, yeah,

917
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: oh god, let the.

918
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 4: I am going to be on a show on we TV.

919
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: I'm just really trying to promote my business. I'm just

920
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 4: here so I get fine. No, yeah, it's called Bold

921
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 4: and Bougie. We're going to we TV February fifteenth premiere.

922
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 4: I'm just nervous cause you know, when the edit it,

923
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 4: you don't know what's going to happen. So I may

924
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: be go from cool, you'd be like she needs some style.

925
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I didn't even say it like that.

926
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 4: So you know, bold and Bold and Boosh we TV.

927
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: Bold and Boosh. I know I already know what's so scared. Yeah,

928
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: we know it's some bad and boo, you know bad

929
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: there ain't working.

930
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: That's what all everybody does now, So I'm not talking.

931
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: You ain't see that fit. You know, I don't even

932
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: know how that works right there, They're gonna find a

933
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: way to work. I don't care. What your don't know.

934
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: Is why wouldn't that become a thing besides back in Africa.

935
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 4: So I don't know if the first togist in America

936
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: the oldest genre to.

937
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great question because that's you know,

938
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna say maybe in Adena Howard.

939
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 5: But she wasn't working.

940
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 3: She wasn't she was freaking more sexy?

941
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: Can we sexy? Can we give it to Uncle Luke?

942
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 4: They were starting they were uncle.

943
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: They used to travel with them. I used to love

944
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: saving lives that they was turning boys to me, ain't

945
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: nobody tripping out of Uncle Luke? We all Mennonized. We

946
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: are good.

947
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: I don't know where I was.

948
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 5: I wasn't there.

949
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: I was a mom and they putting the freaknik Uh documentary,

950
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: and you.

951
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: Know what, I was already a mom. I wasn't in

952
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 4: Atlanta yet, I was styling. I was started heavy during Freaknik.

953
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 4: I was getting money back then. That's when the budgets

954
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: made sense, when.

955
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: The budgets made sense. Yeah, what she got over there, Champ.

956
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: She's been around a lot of music a long time,

957
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of artists. Yeah yeah, I just feel like,

958
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, in her journeys. What do you think of

959
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: putting that ship on and putting that ship on people? Yeah,

960
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: you music while you're doing that. She's uh, she's she's

961
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: found some favorites. So here on the Army Money Podcast,

962
00:50:52,520 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: we like to we like to ask those questions to

963
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: make a who Show Top fun your top five, top five?

964
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Your top five are beasing all this song?

965
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 5: All them?

966
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: No we want b's got the close and put it

967
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: off on the show. You've got to tell me your talk. Yes,

968
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: Rache the brink.

969
00:51:52,760 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 5: Five mind Yeah, I share a birthday.

970
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Mika chocolate, chocolate, all the chocolate. Okay, who is your

971
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: top five? R N the singers all time?

972
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 3: Male and female?

973
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: You can make.

974
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm biased.

975
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, you.

976
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: Crack up in no particular orders. Layla Hathaway, crack up.

977
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: It's amazing to start there.

978
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: It's a raspy situation fire. Okay, that's not fair because

979
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: you got Laila, then you got Jazmine.

980
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: Okay, come on, talk to you gotta go fast, come on,

981
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: talk to talk. Yeah sure, okay, come on now, okay,

982
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: come on now, yeah, they go three. I respect it.

983
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: Thank you. Gotta be in there, come on, come on,

984
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 3: come on, chromes in there with the Crown king in

985
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: there because you were singing.

986
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: Talented individual all right, my last one because I'm not

987
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: gonna count Mike or Prince because they popped me.

988
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 3: They're more than.

989
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: You. Do that.

990
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: I know you gotta.

991
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: Don't give them people are king. Don't do that.

992
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: I didn't want to give it to them.

993
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Jackson said it. Okay, that's all.

994
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 3: That's Michael Jackson.

995
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: The muscles.

996
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 4: That ain't fair because okay, I lived with that. I'm

997
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 4: saying I got about four because I ain't say Patty

998
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: and nobody, but okay, my people, it's like my people.

999
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: Patty is my mama.

1000
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: That's listen. Give me Patty too now that of course,

1001
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: give me young Patty.

1002
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 3: That's my girl.

1003
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: She used to be.

1004
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 4: She still she'll call me and be like, I don't

1005
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 4: care what you're doing on King Labor.

1006
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: I got these Grammys. I'm going to I'll be like.

1007
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: When she calls you next time, tell her that the

1008
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: R and B Money Podcast need for Sure on the

1009
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: show listen.

1010
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: I like Philadelphia. If I need to go to Philadelphia,

1011
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: I go to Philadelpia will cook for y'all, love food.

1012
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: I stay home.

1013
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 4: All I'm gonna say is considerate done all that's my family.

1014
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you Street Publishing for when I

1015
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: use say. I'm gonna say it's considerate period. I'm not

1016
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: gonna add that we got when you don't worry about it,

1017
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: it's not here. We go your top five R and

1018
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: B songs, the.

1019
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 3: Jam, the times they're not people her her okay.

1020
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Listening let them then you're let them discover it.

1021
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 4: Y'all gonna be mad. But guess what song I like

1022
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 4: before I met you?

1023
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Do you know the song.

1024
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Before I met you? Who's before I met you?

1025
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 3: It's on the Here I Stand album Liberian Girl.

1026
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 5: Oh.

1027
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: I used to love Liberian Girl. Yeah. I think I

1028
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: played him like twenty or thirty times in a row

1029
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: one day. It's a love that song.

1030
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 4: Needa Baker got to feel the need in me, feel

1031
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 4: the need you going there?

1032
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, we gotta feel good music got as.

1033
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 3: And then I couldn't love you more.

1034
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: M hmm. You're gonna go from a need to shot

1035
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: my playlist. Yeah, this is a Jesus with a song.

1036
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: That's such a song vibe if time was running out, I.

1037
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: Just talk about vibes. I mean she is about oh

1038
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: my God, something something about Hathaway. We got five, we

1039
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: got take that. Okay, let's do this. We do a

1040
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: thing called a vultron R and B vultron. It's an

1041
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: R and B super artist where you take different elements

1042
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: of different artists and make one artist. So you would

1043
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: have to get the vocal from an artist, the performance

1044
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: style from an artist, the styling from an artist, and

1045
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: the passion of the artist, the heart of the artist.

1046
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Who would you get for your vocal one artist to

1047
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: build your super R and B artist.

1048
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, nobody's going to argue that she's so.

1049
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: Bad performance style on stage? Sum Okay, okay, okay, okay.

1050
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: The styling, come on, you know what I mean, because

1051
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: it's cool. I love that. I love that, the passion

1052
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: of the artists, the heart of the artists.

1053
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: You can have two for that one.

1054
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: Yes, you can't.

1055
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: Okay, you can't beyon. There's some hard working people.

1056
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 4: I will say, hands down, I don't know people that

1057
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 4: work like I sign up to sundown kind of working

1058
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: like never tired, like round the clock, must be done,

1059
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 4: must be done, and we'll get it done. They're chasing

1060
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 4: perfection perfectionists, Yeah, chasing.

1061
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: But you you if there's that, that's that's a separation.

1062
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: I promise you it's a separation.

1063
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 4: If I could say this, hands down, that is the key.

1064
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: You know there's a person that can outwork you. Yep,

1065
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: they will outwork you. They just they will outwork you.

1066
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: It's you can tell where they are, they.

1067
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 3: Will out work you.

1068
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna You're gonna add that extra segment for who's

1069
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: Who's Who's gonna style the artists?

1070
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: Not because that's too much.

1071
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: Not me.

1072
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 3: I really love whose fantasious style is? His name is?

1073
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: I love who's doing the work right now, right now,

1074
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: right now, I love him whoever I know who is

1075
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: either because somebody just mentioned fantasious.

1076
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: Great the other day, he's great, You're great. God, I

1077
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 3: hate that.

1078
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: M gonna. I mean, I will say what the last

1079
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: year or.

1080
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: So, yeah, cooking only because the camera's on, I can't

1081
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 4: remember it because please don't take it as a sign

1082
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 4: of disrespect, because I have.

1083
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 3: Told him you, I've tagged him. What is his d hawk?

1084
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: You're killing it?

1085
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Cooking, Yes, cooking, cooking. We got we got, we got

1086
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: one more thing this, but we get out here.

1087
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, come on, I'm gonna take the church.

1088
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: About to go to the church. Take the check. I

1089
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: ain't saying non Hey, I ain't saying no names. Ain't

1090
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: saying no names. No na, who was? Who was weird?

1091
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: What you did? Don't say?

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00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 7: She sat always breaking?

1093
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: So I can't stand what did he break?

1094
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows?

1095
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 5: Key?

1096
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: He can afford it?

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00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 4: Key rule?

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: So yes, so this uh, speaking of rules, the rule

1099
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: to this game is you can't say no names. So

1100
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: you tell us a story funny or fucked up? Are

1101
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 2: funny and fucked up?

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00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm?

1103
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: And the journeys.

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00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, town business herself huh yeah yeah.

1105
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: If you don't say no names, you ain't.

1106
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 5: Like you know what I mean?

1107
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: And the only rude to the game is just can't

1108
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: say no names. Give us one, Come on, give us some.

1109
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: What's a question? Get to it?

1110
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: It ain't no questions.

1111
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 2: You you tell us a story without saying no names.

1112
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: It's a funny our fuck up story are funny and

1113
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: fucked up story.

1114
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: No names, no name, that's all. It's very simple.

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01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 3: I had a client. Here we go like here go.

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 4: I have client that once wanted to wear something so

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01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 4: badly that they could not fit this garment. So they

1118
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 4: did their album cover and the entire back of the

1119
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 4: jacket was cut open and reassembled by just what I

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 4: would refer to as nar Riannarrian.

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01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: It's a nigg rigged outfit.

1122
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: So the outfit has no back to it.

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,439
Speaker 3: Should there have been a drone, we all have gone home.

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: What Wow?

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01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, just cut the back out whole album cover. This

1126
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: is a great album. People love it and know it.

1127
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, she's he or she is backless.

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Wow. For the drip.

1129
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 3: For the drip, it was not near this person's size,

1130
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: but we from the front it definitely was.

1131
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: That's great.

1132
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 3: That tells you how far we go for the rip,

1133
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 3: for the drip and and for the image.

1134
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: Add to that, if it was a consignment piece or

1135
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: at this point.

1136
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 4: Now you gotta buy it, well you can't buy it,

1137
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: like if it's a sample and it's something that's not

1138
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 4: out yet.

1139
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: And we're pre season, which we generally were. You can't

1140
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 3: buy it, you just pretty gotta explain or you got

1141
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: to have it read. You assembled before, Well you can

1142
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: reassemble it before.

1143
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: They can't reassemble the jacket on the scene.

1144
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 5: What do you mean.

1145
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: Jackets have seen kind of jacket any jack you're.

1146
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 1: In the back.

1147
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: Well, no, because that's not fair neo pre that's not fair.

1148
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: On but she kicked she kicking that knowledge right now.

1149
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea what what? What is what?

1150
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the fabrication. He can go diving in it.

1151
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: You can go to school. I wish he would cracking up.

1152
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: He my dad would be like, come up the water

1153
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: like this on you come man. He just gave him

1154
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: a bad idea.

1155
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 3: Get your goggles, rich me.

1156
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: Some goggles.

1157
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: See I sell games to be sold though, Yeah, yeah, no,

1158
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 4: definitely go.

1159
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 3: Strike that from the record.

1160
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna twenty five right because he need the other

1161
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: twenty five.

1162
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 3: You know what, that's actually the dope, bad idea.

1163
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: It's really dope.

1164
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 3: Was My brain though, is rapid fire like that.

1165
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 4: And that's why I don't be talking on He's god

1166
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 4: damn podcast you're talking.

1167
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,439
Speaker 1: About he's talking on our to me and Scob Steve.

1168
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Alcleman tank.

1169
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 4: That's a whole campaign though for those now I think

1170
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 4: about it, Oh, I just thought of a whole bunch

1171
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: of sh oh rich hollo at me because richt us

1172
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 4: now us.

1173
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: Now we are because because I managed manage, I managed

1174
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: the idea to think, thank you coming to get it right.

1175
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a really dope platform you guys have.

1176
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Thank you, And I think it was.

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 5: Just you know for us, like.

1178
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: First you're you are the first style icon to be

1179
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 1: on the show.

1180
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, no more.

1181
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: Jealous said we want to we want to give some want.

1182
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 3: They all get able to take all the credit. And

1183
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 3: then you know I had got the hanger that you

1184
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 3: put that on the you were first.

1185
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: They will come, They be coming with was the one

1186
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 4: that ran and got the lips coming.

1187
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: In here to undermine what you have created?

1188
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: They do they do every day. I see, I hear it.

1189
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 1: Listen you.

1190
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 4: I mean my class call me like was it you

1191
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 4: they got the jacket or was it her that got

1192
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 4: Like I'm not one to put the custom buttons on

1193
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: it in the embroidery and the yeah so yeah, yeah, so.

1194
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: Listen to Mika my birthday twin yeah, uh twenty four

1195
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: birthday twin twenty four years in. Yeah, you know, it's

1196
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: always been love.

1197
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 4: I know, I love all of my clients. Can I

1198
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: tell you everybody have ever styled? They're like family because

1199
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 4: it's it goes, it transcends your style and dressing and

1200
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 4: socks and whatever in bibbles. It's it's it's kind of

1201
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 4: a mindset again, a meeting of the minds. And we

1202
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 4: talk and we'll be and I'll be like you think

1203
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 4: you know, we've been in the trailer, like I don't

1204
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 4: think that. Nah, that color is not going that's gonna

1205
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 4: look terrible on camera.

1206
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: You see all that going on.

1207
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: You don't want to have those patterns moving. So, like

1208
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 4: we really talk and get into it's kind of psychological.

1209
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 4: So you know, people always ask like, how do you

1210
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 4: marry one of your clients?

1211
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? I know you know, but

1212
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: that's how because you become very very good.

1213
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: For me to start sharing that space, you really do,

1214
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: and you become.

1215
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 4: Really really close friends and you gotta hang out whatever whatever,

1216
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 4: and then here we are, you know what I mean.

1217
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: It just happens, you're like BFFs. We really become close.

1218
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you my dog, my dog, and we

1219
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you. And I appreciate you for doing it because

1220
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 1: we talked about it. I told you want to have

1221
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: you on yeah, and you said you can come and

1222
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: you can thank you, and so we really appreciate it

1223
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: because it's like it's the information that these these young

1224
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs need and a lot of this information it transcends

1225
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: all workspaces. It's true, you know what I mean, the

1226
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: biggest one, biggest lesson of them all. It's just hard work.

1227
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: It's hard to the craft.

1228
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: And if I were to get one tidbit of advice

1229
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 4: to any when you are working with anybody that you

1230
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 4: you know you're aspiring a style or assist or whatever

1231
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 4: it is, remain professional.

1232
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1233
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 4: Professionalism is so important because it's easy in such a

1234
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: personal job to kind of cross the lines, you know,

1235
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 4: and kind of like if they hear you talking and

1236
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 4: chime in like, hey, you know, don't do it, YEA

1237
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: mine live long in this business seriously, So I always

1238
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: try to tell me professionalism is key, and present yourself

1239
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 4: in such a way that you want you know that

1240
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 4: you want to win.

1241
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 3: And that wants you back.

1242
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm my name is Chang and this

1243
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: is the R and Money podcast, the authority on all

1244
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: kind things. Yeah, tell them about it. R and B.

1245
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you put that ship on around Yeah,

1246
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: and we got one of the originators that put it

1247
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: on me Money.

1248
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,000
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1249
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,680
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1250
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1251
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