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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, who is in Indianapolis to take

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Speaker 1: in all that the Combine has to offer and got

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Speaker 1: a first chance today to hear from outside linebackers, defensive linemen,

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Speaker 1: defensive ends, of which the Ravens are in that market,

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Speaker 1: as well as other news and notes from around the league.

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Speaker 2: So Garrett set the scene.

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Speaker 1: What were you hearing and who were you talking to

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Speaker 1: you out there in indian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, today's an exciting day. It was the first day

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Speaker 3: of prospect availability and so we got to hear from

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Speaker 3: the guys in the trenches. And I really do think

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Speaker 3: that that's going to be an area that the Ravens

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Speaker 3: look to address.

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Speaker 2: The defensive trenches.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, yes, the defensive trenches and defensive linemen and

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Speaker 3: those outside linebackers. And I think that that's what everyone

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Speaker 3: that you talk to here in Indianapolis from a scouting

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Speaker 3: standpoint of saying, this is a deep draft in both

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Speaker 3: of those areas. It's a good draft if you're looking

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Speaker 3: for guys on the defensive front, and I think the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are. And whether or not they use a first

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Speaker 3: round pick on it. I don't know if they will.

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Speaker 3: I think it's certainly possible, but I think that they'll

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Speaker 3: restock at that spot if they end up with eleven

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Speaker 3: picks like we all expect, and it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a really important draft to do that. And it's deep

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Speaker 3: in that area. And I liked what I heard from

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Speaker 3: of them have Ravens connections or local connections. And then

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Speaker 3: the other part of the draft that I think is

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Speaker 3: always fun is just getting to catch up with some

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Speaker 3: really good finger on the pulse of what's happening around

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Speaker 3: the league. And a lot of times you've already seen

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Speaker 3: it with a variety of stories in the NFL this week,

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Speaker 3: everyone's in one place, so everybody's talking, people are having lunch,

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Speaker 3: people are having drinks, people are talking about what's going

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Speaker 3: some of these insiders and draft experts, you just have

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Speaker 3: be able to describe what's happening and how things could

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Speaker 3: play out this offseason in the draft. So it's just

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Speaker 3: great to catch up with some of those people and

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Speaker 3: hear from them and get their perspective on where the

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Speaker 3: Ravens stand this year. So one of those guys, we

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Speaker 3: want to play some of those interviews. I've been able

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Speaker 3: hear from some of them, share those interviews with you here,

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Speaker 3: and then also share our perspective and takeaways from them.

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Speaker 3: So the first one, Ryan is with Bucky Brooks, NFL

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Speaker 3: Network Draft analysts, and so let's go ahead and roll

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Speaker 3: at interview with Bucky Ravens fans. I'm here with NFL

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Speaker 3: analyst Bucky Brooks. So, Bucky, when you look at this

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Speaker 4: You know, the one thing the Ravens have always done

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Speaker 4: They can take a safety if that is the course,

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Speaker 4: and then on offense, it's about trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: But the strength of.

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Speaker 4: The draft is the defensive tackles, the defensive end class.

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Speaker 4: You got a bunch of running backs and then you

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Speaker 3: In terms of building through the trenches. I think that's

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Speaker 3: that's an area that you can find impact players throughout

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Speaker 4: I think anytime you're looking at the front line in

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Speaker 4: You talk about Mason Graham and Kenny Grant, some of

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Speaker 5: In the trenches.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens are typically drafting at the end of the

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Speaker 3: Do you look at that as a do you think

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Speaker 3: But do you think that they will be able to

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Speaker 4: That's good always because what happens is people in front

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Speaker 4: that is, getting really good football players. May not be

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Speaker 4: stick to that formula that's been successful for Ozzie Newsome,

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Speaker 3: Someone who fits that description of what you just talked

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Speaker 4: You talk about Kyle Hamilton, what if you paired him

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Speaker 4: I know, and Darius Washington played really well for them

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Speaker 3: And lastly, do you expe the Raves to be right

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Speaker 3: So the main thing with Bucky, and I mentioned it

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Speaker 3: And you pointed to Hamilton and at that time, like.

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Speaker 2: Wait he called it at the combine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he told me at the Combine and I was like,

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Speaker 3: and I was, and I was like.

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Speaker 6: Hamilton, like Bucky, Bucky's out of his mind.

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Speaker 3: Well, I also I also at that time everyone was

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Speaker 3: attention to the mock drafts out there. No one thinks

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Speaker 3: Hamilton's gonna make it to the Ravens. And I remember

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Speaker 3: he's a safety and positional value is not there for

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Speaker 3: and so he could slide to the Ravens at fourteen.

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Speaker 3: So in his latest mock right now, he has the

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Speaker 3: Ravens taking Malachi Starks with safety out of Georgia, as

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Speaker 3: interesting pick. So what's your take on that whole conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is interesting, and you know how

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Speaker 2: Between the two players, in just.

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Speaker 1: My initial look at at their tape, it seems like

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Speaker 1: It fits a little bit more of what the Ravens need,

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Speaker 1: because Emin Worry seems like he's a closer comp to

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he can do it as

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Speaker 1: well as Kyle Hamilton, but he just seems like more

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Speaker 2: Now, on one hand, I'm fine with two.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's okay, sign me up if like, if he's

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Speaker 1: like Malachi Starks, while he can come up and hit two,

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Speaker 3: I agree with everything said, and that's probably the first

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Speaker 3: and last time I'll say that. Right, Wow, I'm stunned,

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Speaker 3: But but no, I agree with that. Like I think

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Speaker 3: that it. Malachi Starks is more of like he is versatile,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally think that's possible. You know, I think

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Speaker 3: Well, what I mean that's basically the night Wigan situation

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Speaker 3: Ey Raves Fans, I'm here with Tom Pelisaro from the

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Speaker 3: NFL Network and Tom, when you look at the Ravens

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Speaker 5: We get two things here. One.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, there's an extensive injury history with Ronnie, but he

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Speaker 7: I would not be surprised at all if Ronnie, assuming

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Speaker 7: Well, that's a lot of what happens here behind the scenes,

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Speaker 5: That's where you see a lot of those extensions get done.

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Speaker 7: Listen, the Ravens have a long established system with these things.

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Speaker 3: the process that they have historically one of the teams

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Speaker 3: that are in the mix every year in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: of course, with Lamar Jackson leading the way there, how

441
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Speaker 3: confident you are you that the Raves is going to

442
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Speaker 3: be right back in the thick of this conversation, in

443
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Speaker 3: the AFC, competing not only for a playoff spot for it,

444
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Speaker 3: but for a chance to play for that Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Well, we know the special things that Lamar is capable

446
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Speaker 7: of doing. We've seen the evolution of him too, in

447
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Speaker 7: terms of his game and how he is as a passer.

448
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Speaker 7: Last year, you know, they played probably a little bit

449
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Speaker 7: differently than they they've played him past years, and it's

450
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Speaker 7: been really over the last two years, it's been really effective,

451
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Speaker 7: at least in terms of the you know, the regular

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Speaker 7: season results.

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Speaker 5: The question is always just.

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Speaker 7: Going to be can you win with a certain play

455
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Speaker 7: style in January? Can you win those big games? To

456
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Speaker 7: this point, I don't. I don't watch them play and

457
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Speaker 7: say that they can't. But they haven't done it yet.

458
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Speaker 7: Everybody's trying to get past the Chiefs. Everybody's trying to

459
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Speaker 7: get over the hump of the AFC in general. Here,

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Speaker 7: I do anticipate that they're going to be competitive year

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Speaker 7: in and year out. And again that goes back to

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Speaker 7: John Harbaugh and the program that he sets. It's Eric

463
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Speaker 7: de Costa and his scouting staff. They do just a

464
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Speaker 7: fantastic job. They're always a very talented team. They're not

465
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Speaker 7: afraid to take some swings, you know, bringing in a

466
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Speaker 7: Deontae Johnson or you know, whatever it might be. Those

467
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Speaker 7: things don't always work out, but you give yourself an

468
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Speaker 7: opportunity by getting a lot of bites at the apple.

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Speaker 5: They're really good at that.

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Speaker 7: That division is going to be, you know, I think

471
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Speaker 7: it's going to be treacherous moving forward because the Bengals

472
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Speaker 7: are going to probably reinvest more in the defense in

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Speaker 7: this offseason.

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Speaker 5: We know what they can do offensively.

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Speaker 7: We'll see how things end up shaking out in Cleveland,

476
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Speaker 7: and we'll see who the quarterback ends up being of

477
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Speaker 7: the Steelers. But right now, if you're stacking up that

478
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Speaker 7: division one through four, you're certainly putting the Ravens at

479
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Speaker 7: the top, which is a strong indication of, you know,

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Speaker 7: what they're capable of in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: So obviously he's spent a good amount of time talking

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Speaker 3: with Tom about Ronnie Stanley, and he was one of

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Speaker 3: the big topics from a Ravens standpoint. On the first

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Speaker 3: day of the combine, Eric Tacosta indicating the Ravens are

485
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Speaker 3: optimistic about getting a long term deal done with him

486
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Speaker 3: and that he's talking with Ronnie's agent here at the

487
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Speaker 3: combine and John Harbaugh also saying that he thinks the

488
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Speaker 3: Ravens will get a deal done with Ronnie. So there

489
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Speaker 3: seems to be a lot of positivity on that front.

490
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Speaker 3: And it was good to hear from Pella Sero just

491
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Speaker 3: to talking about the marketplace at free Agent and how

492
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Speaker 3: Ronnie's gonna get like if he wants to go out

493
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Speaker 3: there and really test the market, like he has a

494
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Speaker 3: big payday coming, whether it's with the Ravens or somebody else,

495
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Speaker 3: he has a big payday in his future. And so

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Speaker 3: in hearing from him that that make you feel, I

497
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Speaker 3: guess more or less likely or the same about the Ravens'

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Speaker 3: chances of keeping Stanley think.

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Speaker 2: About the same.

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Speaker 1: I thought what was interesting from Tom was that, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: he kind of talked about how he doesn't think necessarily

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Speaker 1: that Ronnie Stanley has to hit the market to know

503
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Speaker 1: his market, you know, And that's important because that that.

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Speaker 3: Kind of goes back to what I was saying. Everyone's

505
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Speaker 3: here in the same place talking right now.

506
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you're.

507
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Speaker 1: Having conversations, you got the feelers out and you're getting indicators,

508
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Speaker 1: and you know, the Ravens are well within their rights

509
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Speaker 1: to talk to Ronnie as much as they want about

510
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Speaker 1: the specifics, right, but if if it almost it could

511
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Speaker 1: potentially it could go either way, I suppose, But it

512
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Speaker 1: could potentially help them get a deal done with Ronnie beforehand,

513
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Speaker 1: if he and his agent are able to get kind

514
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Speaker 1: of the landscape of what else.

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Speaker 6: Might be out there, because if they don't feel like

516
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Speaker 6: what else.

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Speaker 1: Is out there, then they might be more tempted to say,

518
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Speaker 1: all right, I want to find out and I'm gonna

519
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Speaker 1: wait until free agency opens if they kind of do,

520
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Speaker 1: because like we've said on this podcast, like I feel

521
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Speaker 1: like both sides here would like to stay together. Like

522
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Speaker 1: I think it makes sense for Ronnie, and I think

523
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Speaker 1: it makes sense for the Ravens, and so if they

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Speaker 1: can kind of cross off the like all right, this

525
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Speaker 1: is kind of what the market would look like for Ronnie.

526
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Speaker 1: That gives him a good place to work from and

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Speaker 1: get a deal done before he necessarily has to be

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Speaker 1: on the market.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting because coming into the combine, I

531
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Speaker 3: think a lot of Ravens fans media felt like, doesn't

532
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Speaker 3: seem like there could be a real likelihood of getting

533
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Speaker 3: a Stanley deal done. It's going to be expensive, he

534
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Speaker 3: could hit the market. We'll see if you're able to

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Speaker 3: work out a new deal with him. And in the

536
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Speaker 3: course of like twenty four hours, now it's like, all right, Ronnie,

537
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Speaker 3: you know he's back. You know, it's like he just

538
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Speaker 3: that Wendy sign and just put you know, wonderf he's

539
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Speaker 3: put a down payment on a house. Like it just

540
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Speaker 3: seems like there's just there's this momentum moving in that

541
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Speaker 3: direction based on what Eric said, based on what John said, uh,

542
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Speaker 3: and then based on some of these media conversations, and

543
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Speaker 3: so I think that's good. I think if they're able

544
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Speaker 3: to work it out, Like as we've said many times,

545
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Speaker 3: Ronnie is a Pro Bowl player who's coming off his

546
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Speaker 3: best season in several years. He's a leader on the

547
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Speaker 3: offensive line. I think that he really to me, Ronnie,

548
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Speaker 3: and he's been kind of open about this, Like when

549
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Speaker 3: he went through those injuries, you wonder if you're ever

550
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Speaker 3: going to play again, he wondered if he's ever going

551
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Speaker 3: to be the same, And in the way he got

552
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Speaker 3: the chance to play again. I think that he like

553
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Speaker 3: he really does love playing the game, and he takes

554
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Speaker 3: it seriously when he's out there, and he wants to

555
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Speaker 3: be really good, Like he has a lot of pride

556
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Speaker 3: in his craft and so basically having the game taken

557
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Speaker 3: away from him for like three years, I think was

558
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Speaker 3: really challenging. And now he came back and he was healthy,

559
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Speaker 3: and he I think really committed himself. And in this

560
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Speaker 3: free agency process, he may be saying, this is the

561
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Speaker 3: only team that I've ever played for. We're really close,

562
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Speaker 3: We're knocking on the door. Got a lot of good

563
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Speaker 3: relationships in that building. We really like playing with Lamar Jackson.

564
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Speaker 3: Let's go make another run at it. I made a

565
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Speaker 3: ton of money, and like, I'm gonna keep making a

566
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Speaker 3: ton of money. He's not playing for free, but like,

567
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Speaker 3: let's just try to keep the band together and keep

568
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Speaker 3: rolling here and that. And if that happens, I think

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Speaker 3: that would be a big item on the Ravens offseason

570
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Speaker 3: checklist and really put them in good position going into

571
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Speaker 3: the draft.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you think about, all right, what other

574
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Speaker 1: teams could potentially sign Ronnie Stanley And you look around

575
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Speaker 1: the league and it's like, all right, who has the

576
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Speaker 1: cap space? Well, the New England Patriots are at the

577
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Speaker 1: top of the list, and you know they could be

578
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Speaker 1: looking for a left tackle or plate to protect Drake

579
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Speaker 1: May Right, the Commanders are near the top of the list.

580
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Speaker 1: They're looking they're looking for more protection for their young

581
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Speaker 1: stud quarterback, you know. And you go down this list

582
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Speaker 1: and you the Bears, right, the Bears could certainly invest

583
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Speaker 1: in the offensive line again protected Caleb Williams, right, and so,

584
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Speaker 1: but if you're Ronnie Stanley, it's like, all right, do

585
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Speaker 1: I want to go from the Ravens the Patriots? I mean,

586
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Speaker 1: the Commanders were good, right, but the Patriots the Bears, Like,

587
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Speaker 1: do I want to do that? Or I love playing

588
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Speaker 1: for this organization. I love playing with Lamar Jackson. I

589
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Speaker 1: have the relationships here, you know, like you're saying, let's

590
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Speaker 1: keep let's keep a good thing going, You're right.

591
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Speaker 3: And someone else who wants to keep Broddie Stanley in

592
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Speaker 3: Baltimore is John Harbaugh. He made that clear during his

593
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Speaker 3: press convince and I also caught up with him after

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Speaker 3: that just to talk a little bit more in depth

595
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Speaker 3: about what the Ravens look to get accomplished here at

596
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Speaker 3: the combine, as well as some of those big lingering

597
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Speaker 3: questions going into free agency. So here is that conversation

598
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Speaker 3: with coach Hartball. Hey Ravens fans. I'm here with head

599
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Speaker 3: coach John Harball, and we are at the NFL Scouting Combine. Coaches,

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Speaker 3: you're going through this week, what are the big priorities

601
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Speaker 3: for you as a group that you want to get accomplished.

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Speaker 8: I tell you that's a great question because you're so

603
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Speaker 8: many things going on here. There's action happening everywhere. You're

604
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Speaker 8: evaluating players, you're looking at the medical stuff, You're having

605
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Speaker 8: interviews all over the place. Just an opportunity to get

606
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Speaker 8: to know the draft. I think the scouts do a

607
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Speaker 8: great job of digging in. They're digging in deep, asking

608
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Speaker 8: guys even tougher questions and getting to know the players

609
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Speaker 8: more deeply. But this is a process. It's part of

610
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Speaker 8: the process. It's a fun part of the process. So

611
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Speaker 8: there's a lot of a lot of energy here at

612
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Speaker 8: the combine.

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Speaker 3: So, coach, last year, when we had this conversation, you

614
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Speaker 3: talked about the offensive line going through a rebuild, and

615
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Speaker 3: you kind of telegraph that a little bit. You know,

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Speaker 3: obviously you end up replacing three starters, and you talked

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Speaker 3: about the vision, the blueprint that you wanted to go through.

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Speaker 3: So this year, as you look at the off season.

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Speaker 3: What do you see is the big picture of view

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Speaker 3: and approach that you want to take.

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Speaker 8: Well, more things change and more they stay the same.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you're always going to be trying to build

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Speaker 8: an offensive line that's going to be critically important, and

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Speaker 8: you really do start everything from the beginning. Every end,

625
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Speaker 8: at the end of every season is the beginning of

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Speaker 8: a new season. You know, the end of a week's

627
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Speaker 8: the beginning of a new week, even during the season.

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Speaker 8: So we're trying to build ourselves up to be the

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Speaker 8: best football team we can be in It does start

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Speaker 8: on both sides in the trenches. It starts with the

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Speaker 8: offensive line and defensive line. So we'll probably be saying

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Speaker 8: that pretty much every year, but we'll work our way back.

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Speaker 8: You know, we're going to be looking at defensive backs.

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Speaker 8: We'll be looking at inside backers. We'll be looking at

635
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Speaker 8: edge guys, we'll be looking at I'm sure we'll be

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Speaker 8: looking at running backs. People don't think we need our

637
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Speaker 8: running back, but we'll be looking hard at running backs.

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Speaker 8: It's a good running back class. I'm sure we'll be

639
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Speaker 8: looking for quarterbacks to back up to back up Lamar.

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Speaker 8: We'll be looking at tight ends, the young tight ends,

641
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Speaker 8: even though we don't even have a need for a

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Speaker 8: tight end. We'll be looking at those guys. We're looking

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Speaker 8: for receivers, we be looking for special teams players. You know,

644
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Speaker 8: we want to keep building our core special teams group,

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Speaker 8: good young group, a bunch of young players, a bunch

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Speaker 8: of rookies last year that learned a lot, got better

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Speaker 8: as a year went on. We want those guys to

648
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Speaker 8: make a big jump and see if we might add a.

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Speaker 3: Guy or to A common talking point and listening to

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Speaker 3: some of the press conferences here with coaches and GMS

651
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Speaker 3: is the Eagles went and they won Super Bowl and

652
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Speaker 3: the defensive line, that defensive front was dominant. They had

653
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Speaker 3: a great game, and so our other teams are going

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Speaker 3: to try to replicate that approach and go and attack

655
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Speaker 3: the defensive front. Do you think of that as I mean,

656
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 3: you've always been somebody who believes in building in the trenches.

657
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 3: But do you think that could have a ripple effect

658
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: throughout the league and even for the Ravens.

659
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 8: It might move some guys up in the draft for sure.

660
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 8: I mean, that's kind of I don't think anybody's ever

661
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 8: not thought that way. I think the Eagles did the

662
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 8: best job in the last couple of years of hitting

663
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 8: on guys. I mean, they drafted guys high, They paid

664
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Speaker 8: guys a big, big amount of money, did a lot

665
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 8: of avoided contracts to keep those guys around. So they've

666
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 8: done a good job of building the trenches on both sides,

667
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 8: especially on the defensive line, but offensive line too. I

668
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 8: mean they got the biggest offensive line in football, and

669
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 8: they're very physical. Look at the tish push. You know,

670
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 8: they've made a living in that type of thing. So

671
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 8: all respect to what they've done, and I do think

672
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 8: people will be looking at how they did.

673
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: It, and for your offensive line. I talked about, you know,

674
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: last year and the changes you went through there. Ronnie's

675
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: a free agent. Pat McCarey's a free agent. How much

676
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: do you want to keep those guys? I know you

677
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: mentioned in your press conference you'd love to get Ronnie back,

678
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: but also the confidence that you have in young players

679
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: like a Roger Rosegarten or an Andrew Vorheesa step in

680
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: if needed.

681
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 8: Well, you guys just meet the circumstances where you find them,

682
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 8: you know, in life, and as a coach, We're going

683
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 8: to try real hard to keep Ronnie, to keep Pat

684
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 8: you know, those are guys that we want to try

685
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 8: to keep and see if we can keep moving forward

686
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 8: and keep building with those guys. If it works out,

687
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 8: that'd be amazing and awesome. I'd be the happiest guy

688
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 8: in the world. If it doesn't work out, we're gonna

689
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 8: make it amazing and awesome and we're going to become

690
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 8: the happiest people in the world because we're going to

691
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 8: find another way to do it. Guys like Roger and

692
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 8: Daniel Falalley and Andrew Vorhees, he got Tyler Linderbaum still

693
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 8: good young guys. Whoever we draft, maybe we sign somebody.

694
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 8: We'll find a way because we just think it's so

695
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 8: important to have a great offensive.

696
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: Line on the other side of the ball. Safety is

697
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: a position where you could look to it add how

698
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: much of that is a priority that allows Kyle to

699
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: do all the different things that he can do. But

700
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 3: you already have two good safeties and Kyle and oar Darius.

701
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 3: What's the philosophy as it comes to adding a potential safety.

702
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 8: Well, it'd be a big for us. I mean it,

703
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 8: we'ld give us another type of guy in that kind

704
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 8: of mix. And we do like to move not just Kyle.

705
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 8: We move Kyle around a lot. He was more deep

706
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 8: this year, but he'll be deep a lot again. But

707
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 8: we can bring him down inside kind of what we

708
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 8: call the dinbacker position inside down to the nickel position.

709
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 8: We can do it with disguise. He can look like

710
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 8: he's playing stronger free safety and come down and we

711
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 8: can rotate take our Darius over the top. We have

712
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 8: good young safeties that can still allow us to do that.

713
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 8: But whether it's a safety or corner. I mean, we

714
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 8: get Brandon Stevens back who can play safety, end, corner

715
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 8: and nickel n dime. He's a very versatile player. So

716
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 8: all those kind of things will play in as we

717
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 8: see how it unfolds.

718
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: I know. And lastly, go I know, a big part

719
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: of the combine is the workouts and the stuff that

720
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 3: we see on TV press conferences even but behind the scenes,

721
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: you're getting to know these players. The interviews that you

722
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: go through are really important and deciding who ultimately ends

723
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: up in Baltimore.

724
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 5: What are you.

725
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: Learning about these players and those interviews.

726
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 8: That's a really good question, Garrett, And for us it's

727
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: only a fifteen minute interview. Are the main interview? Now

728
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 8: we've got the other interviews that you have. We interview

729
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 8: everybody at the combine. We'll have somebody interview everybody here.

730
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 8: They've also been interviewed at the senior ball at East

731
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 8: West game. They've also been talked to at at your

732
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 8: school a lot of times. And then they'll also be

733
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 8: talked to maybe we'll bring them in. We'll also be

734
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 8: doing phone interviews and we do zoom interviews with all

735
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 8: the guys in the draft. So it's a deep dive

736
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 8: on everybody. So what is that fifteen minutes for us?

737
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 8: At fifteen minutes is personal football? We try to do

738
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 8: as we dig into the football with tape up, we

739
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 8: ask them questions about football plays they've played, how they think.

740
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 8: We want to get an idea into how they how

741
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 8: they think about football, how sharp they are, how much

742
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 8: they remember what they did when they were playing. Try

743
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 8: to get an idea of how into it they are.

744
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 8: Because we like guys who are into football. We'd like

745
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 8: guys who think about football, who are always considering how

746
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 8: to get better, you know, want to be the best

747
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 8: they can be at football, you know, So we try

748
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 8: to make it about football.

749
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: So I think my biggest takeaway in hearing from coach

750
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: Harbaugh is that the Ravens want to build in the trenches.

751
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: And that's probably been a core philosophy throughout the organization's history.

752
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: But I do think and I'm hearing this conversation over

753
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 3: and over again. I mentioned this in the podcast earlier

754
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: in the week, Like while I'm out here, people just

755
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: keep bringing up the Super Bowl and what the Eagles

756
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 3: did and how they controlled that line of scrimmage, like

757
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: the Eagles defensive front, the Eagles defensive front, and so

758
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: like there's just this real belief that building in the

759
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: trenches is what can get.

760
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: You in vogue. Now, yeah it's vague, Yeah.

761
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: It's in vogue. And it's like, you want to win,

762
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: you want to win a Super Bowl, have a great

763
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: defensive front or or have a great.

764
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 6: Running backs are going to get paid like crazy this

765
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 6: off season.

766
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: It's valuing the running backs.

767
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: Basically, in the running backs and the guys in the trenches. Yeah,

768
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: that's what That's what it seems to be. And and

769
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: he you know, we talked about it there, and I

770
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: think that was pretty honest answer about the Ravens always

771
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: having a belief that, like, you want to build in

772
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: the trenches. But I think that as they look at

773
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: his offseason, that is definitely an area where they're going

774
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: to commit resources to, probably on both sides of the ball.

775
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I absolutely think so. And you know, uh, outside

776
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: of Travis Jones, they haven't drafted a defensive tackle uh

777
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: really D lineman in the first three rounds.

778
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: In a little bit since Tom exactly. It's been Travis Jones,

779
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: that's it.

780
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: And so like I think that they they are due

781
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: for kind of restocking that group as well, and so

782
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if that was I would

783
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 1: put that at the top. I double up candidates the

784
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: defensive line, and then I think it also works out

785
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,239
Speaker 1: well because it Mary's up with the strength of this

786
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: draft that it's a really strong defensive tackle d N draft.

787
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: So I think I think that works out well.

788
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: And then and then pass rusher, you know, compliments that

789
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: that it's the front seven really for the Eagles. It's

790
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: not just the D lineman, So yeah, the the uh

791
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: pass rushers, and then on the offensive line, as we've

792
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: talked about, especially if they don't keep Ronnie Stanley, you

793
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: have to really invest a significant resources there and there

794
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: as much as I went on the run about Daniel

795
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: File and Andrew Vorhees, and you know, I think that

796
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens have a lot of confidence in those guys.

797
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: They absolutely could take another guard that can that would

798
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: compete with those players, most most likely Voorhees.

799
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 2: You know, a mid round guard that they are.

800
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: The Ravens always want good competition, and especially if Patrick

801
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: McCarey doesn't return, and benk Cleveland's also an undrestrict free agent,

802
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: Like you need another guard.

803
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: Well, the Ravens are have a history of just taking

804
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: mid round guards. I mean, that's that's.

805
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: That's what that's what we I mean, that's there's.

806
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 3: Been like you go back through like the last ten

807
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: years and there's a ton of them. So it would

808
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 3: not surprise me one bit if we got that's gonna

809
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna happen. Uh So it would not shock

810
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: me at all. The other thing that was interesting from

811
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: from Hardball was him talking about the running back spot.

812
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: He also mentioned in his press conference like, you know,

813
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: we could take a running back, And when I talked

814
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: to him too, he's like, yeah, no, I thinks you

815
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: need a running back. We could take a running back,

816
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: which it just found interesting because like when we did

817
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: our rankings a couple of weeks ago of positions of me,

818
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: running back was dead last for both of us. The

819
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: Ravens have Derrick Henry, They have Justice Hill who just

820
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 3: signed a contract extension. Let's talk of an extension with

821
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: Derrek Henry. He's going into the last year of his contract.

822
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: They still have Keith Mitchell, who's coming back from the injury.

823
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: Uh So I just found it a little bit who

824
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: they drafted late last year who got some action this season.

825
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: So it I just find it interesting that he brought

826
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: up in the conversation with me and on podium the

827
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: possibility of taking a running back at some point.

828
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: Well, it's supposed to be a very good running back

829
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: draft class, like really really good, and so I think

830
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: if the Ravens get I would be stunned. Stunned if

831
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: it happened on the first two days of the draft.

832
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: But I think if you're on day three and the

833
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: value is too good to pass up. Yeah, Like I

834
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: just got done saying the Ravens won competition and they

835
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: could get there could definitely be a strong competition for

836
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that number three slash four running back spot.

837
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: You know, between who are somebody.

838
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: They draft and Russian Ali and Keith Mitchell, and you know, hey,

839
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: if if they just absolutely hit on somebody in day three,

840
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: as much as you know Derrick Henry, they're looking to

841
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: work out an extension. They haven't done it yet, and

842
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: if they work on an extension, maybe they would they

843
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: tack on another year or two, right, Like, I.

844
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 3: Mean, it still would surprise me early. I mean, what

845
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: if you have eleven Ravens are expect to have eleven picks,

846
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: and if you have eleven picks, you're you're almost taking

847
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: every single position on the team. It's like, it's so

848
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 3: like if you take a fifth round running back with

849
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 3: eleven picks. Okay, but if it's like an earlier earlier

850
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: than that, I will say, if you go back to

851
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, Now, they didn't have Derek Henry on the

852
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: team at that point, but they took JK. Dobbins in

853
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 3: the second round that year, and we were not saying

854
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 3: at all that the Ravens were likely to take a

855
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 3: running back at that point, Like we were not saying

856
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: a second round running back in twenty twenty. So that yeah,

857
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: they had they had mark Ingram, they had Gus Edwards,

858
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 3: and they were coming off a season where they ran

859
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 3: for more than yards than anybody else in NFL history,

860
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: the best rushing attack of all time. And so, like

861
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: none of us were saying going into that draft, man,

862
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: the Ravens are going to take a running back here,

863
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 3: probably high, and then they just felt like they had

864
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: too good of a player with JK. Dobbins at that spot,

865
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: And so could that happen again? Maybe that surprised us

866
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 3: five years ago, So maybe it happens again.

867
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still going to stick with my statement that

868
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: I think if it happens on the first two days,

869
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprising.

870
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: It would surprise me. It was surprise.

871
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised with day three.

872
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would surprise me.

873
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: I think that's certainly a possibility.

874
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that. So let's take a

875
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: quick break. When we come back, we'll dive into some

876
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: of the other conversations from the combine, including what some

877
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 3: of the prospects had to say, and also get to

878
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 3: one of your questions. You're listening to the Lounge podcast.

879
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: We are coming to you from the Seat Geek studio.

880
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: We also want to mention our partners at Draft King Sportsbook.

881
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Speaker 3: Ravens Draft King sportsbook, The Crown is yours. So today,

883
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: as I mentioned earlier, we had a chance to hear

884
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: from some of those guys on the front seven defensive

885
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: linemen as well as the pass rushers. A big one

886
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: that a lot of people wanted to talk to, especially

887
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: from a Ravens perspective, was Shamor Stewart, pass rusher, edge

888
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: setter out of Texas A and M. And I'll just

889
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: tell you when he steps to.

890
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 6: The he's Jeremiah's latest mock craft.

891
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: He's the latest one for whom Daniels Jeremiah has the

892
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: Ravens taking at pick number twenty seven. As we've mentioned

893
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: many many times, DJ has a really good pulls for

894
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: the type of players that the Ravens like.

895
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: And I'll just tell you what you think he said.

896
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: He just feels like he and when you look at him,

897
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: like physically, you're like, okay, I can see how this

898
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: guy would be nice to have on the defense. He's

899
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: he's really big, like six five, two eighty, so he's

900
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: he is big. He's more like he's physically in the

901
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 3: mold of like Terrell sucks now I'm not comparing him

902
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: to Terrell sucks.

903
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 6: Okay, but like sure, sure, I think I just got

904
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: my mock draft line.

905
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm just saying from a physical standpoint, like when

906
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: you look at him, much different body type than Ada Feoway,

907
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 3: who is like off the charts athleticism and speed, but

908
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: Stewart has like these great measurables. And so I think

909
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: that there is real potential that, like a week from now,

910
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: when we're talking about combine rise, which he could be

911
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: one of those guys that flies up boards and he's

912
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: not really in the mix anymore for the Ravens of

913
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: twenty seven, I think that possibility exists.

914
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: I was listening to a podcast this morning from the

915
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Mena Chimes podcast, and they are saying on there that

916
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart just so freakishly athletic, the size, speed, all

917
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 1: that that they hadn't seen anybody like that since Miles Garrett, yeah,

918
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: or anybody like close to that kind of size speed explosion.

919
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: And so when you have that lasting to the end

920
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: of the first round would surprise me.

921
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: Now.

922
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: The reason that it would is because there's the production.

923
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 1: There's just really low production, you know, didn't have more

924
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: than a sac and a half in any of the seasons.

925
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I think had four and a half career sacks in college,

926
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: And so you're like, how can a player that's that

927
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: gifted not have that much production? And I think it

928
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: was not even a lot of a ton of tackles,

929
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, And so I I hear what you're saying,

930
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: he'll probably be one of those guys after the combine

931
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: that everybody's buzzing about, but that the question of the

932
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: production doesn't change from the combine performance, Like there's gonna

933
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: still be that hesitation in teams minds. Away blew up

934
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: the combine too, and the Ravens got him at the

935
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: very end of the first round. What pick thirty one,

936
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, And so like those questions about product productivity

937
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: are gonna linger.

938
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 3: He was asked about that today and he made the

939
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: point that he's not just a sack warrior, that he

940
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 3: affects the game in more ways than just the stat sheet,

941
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: that he sets the edge, that he can pressure the quarterback,

942
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: that he can that he sets up other players, that

943
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: he's an all around player, not just somebody that's chasing stats.

944
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 3: That's that's his answer as to the productivity. And I'm

945
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: sure that teams. I'm sure when he's going through the

946
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: interviews with these teams, he's getting the exact same question,

947
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 3: tell me about your productivity. It wasn't there from a

948
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: stat sheet standpoint. And if the Ravens were to take look,

949
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: they talked took a Dafaeowa, who of course didn't have

950
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: any sacks this last season, and that was that was

951
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 3: a big talking point at the time, and that's turned

952
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: out to be a pretty good pick. And so I

953
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: don't think that they would be scared off by that,

954
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 3: as long as they've felt like what they see on

955
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: tape and the way that he affects the game warrants

956
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: taking him in the first round again if he were

957
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: to be there. And so the Ravens all of course

958
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: have that evaluation process based on what they see on

959
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 3: the tape and then the measurables and the overall potential

960
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: that he brings. But that's his answer.

961
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: I also think that the Ravens are in a good

962
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: position because they have Chuck Smith. And so if you say,

963
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: all right, give Chuck Smith this multiple piece of clay

964
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: that has extremely high upside athletically and then teach him

965
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: some moves, some pass rush moves and refine his game,

966
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: like what can he be? Then, you know, and Chuck's

967
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: been credit goes to the players, and credit also goes

968
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: to Chuck and the coaching staff, John Harvall's coaching staff,

969
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: Like he's done a good job coaching these guys. And

970
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: so I think that that's a part of the conversation

971
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: for the Ravens when they're talking about somebody, it's like

972
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: And I thought this was actually a notable point from

973
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: Eric da Costa in his press conference at the Combine

974
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: that people didn't really pick up on a lot.

975
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: I didn't. There wasn't a lot of buzz about.

976
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: But he said, I'll always go with upside talent and upside.

977
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the upside, and that is Shamar Stewart.

978
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's got it. He's got that upside.

979
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think that that's you picked up

980
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: on something kind of interesting there, and I'm with you.

981
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 3: The other piece of hearing from guys today again mentioned

982
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: defensive lineman, a player who you could you can give

983
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 3: us a scouting report here on the Maryland product, a

984
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: player who I'm interested in. And I actually mentioned doing

985
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: a series of players at positions of potential need who

986
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: could fit the Ravens, And I mentioned this guy as

987
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: a defensive lineman out of Maryland. They have to look

988
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 3: too far, but Jordan Phillips defensive lineman more in the

989
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: mold of like a Michael Pierce, a true true no

990
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: guard uh six foot one, like three hundred and twenty pounds,

991
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: And I liked hearing from him, like he just sounded

992
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: like a guy who confident, like his mentality, and he

993
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 3: also brings some nice and tangibles to the equation too.

994
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: Guy that's got a wrestling background, uh, talked about how

995
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 3: he uses that from a leverage standpoint. Ravens like that

996
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: for guys in the trenches. Tyler Linderbaum, him versus him

997
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: versus Lindert pretty great. It'd be like one of those

998
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: one of those old heavyweight wrestling matches that both those

999
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: guys had in high school and then and then also weightlifting.

1000
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: He's got you could squad like six hundred and fifty pounds,

1001
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: and the Ravens value that and guys on the defensive front.

1002
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: Brandon Williams was that way, Michael Pierce is that way.

1003
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 3: So I think that he's an interesting player, A local

1004
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: kid that I definitely have my eye on. Came away

1005
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: pretty impressed and talking with him today.

1006
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, if I have my eyes

1007
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: dotted and t's crossed, I don't think there's anybody that

1008
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: can block me. So, you know, yeah, to your point,

1009
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: I like the cuff and see he would he would

1010
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: make sense. I mean we talked about it. What did

1011
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: what's Michael Pierce's future look like? How many more years

1012
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: to see? You want to play? And so they will.

1013
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: As much as Travis Jones stepped into that position and

1014
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: played at a high level, he was really the starter.

1015
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: You know, another kind of.

1016
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: Run stuffing defensive lineman I think would help round out

1017
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: the depth of that defensive line.

1018
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 3: A couple other points. One is Adam Schefter. Recently he

1019
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: talked here at the Combine. He's here, and he made

1020
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 3: the point while here that when you look at this

1021
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: draft class as a whole, in the conversations that he's having,

1022
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: like there's not a huge difference between like pick ten

1023
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 3: and pick thirty from a from a talent standpoint, which

1024
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 3: I think probably if you're you know you're picking at

1025
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 3: pick number twenty seven for the Ravens, that says good

1026
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: things that's good.

1027
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 2: That's good.

1028
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: So I like that if he's correct in that. And

1029
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: then the other part too, is that, like the real

1030
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: value and the real impact of this draft is going

1031
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: to be in the mill rounds like three, four, five,

1032
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: And the Ravens are expected to have eleven draft.

1033
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: Picks this year and well and five and this.

1034
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I talked to Ravens Director of player Personnel

1035
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: Mark Osceovito and just about the process and having those

1036
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: eleven picks, and he brought up the twenty twenty two

1037
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: draft that the Ravens had when they had all these

1038
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: picks in the middle rounds and they end up getting

1039
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: some really significant impact players like Travis Jones and Isaiah

1040
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: Likely and Charlie Kohler and others. And so he brought

1041
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: up that draft and how from a scouting standpoint, the

1042
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: Ravens are looking at this draft in a similar way

1043
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 3: that they're going to really need to nail those those

1044
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: mid round picks with impact players. Daniel another one right there,

1045
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: so that they're really going to need to nail this

1046
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: this draft with those picks in those middle rounds, because

1047
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: that's what rounds out your roster, increases the competition. And

1048
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: then ultimately ends up getting the impact players you usually

1049
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: a little bit you know in later years. But I

1050
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 3: thought that was an interesting connection there.

1051
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: M yeah, I think as as we've heard Daniel Jeremia said,

1052
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: it's a starter's draft and and those are the rounds

1053
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: where you know, it's not super often that you hit

1054
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: on a superstar, and other Ravens have done it, you know,

1055
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: nom thee Mattabik was a third round pick superstar, you know,

1056
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,959
Speaker 1: but oftentimes those picks are measured on whether the guy

1057
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: turns into a quality starter or not. And if the

1058
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: Ravens can pluck, you know, have a high hit rate

1059
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: there whatever, four starters out of five, like three even three,

1060
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: you know, like that that would be good.

1061
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: They're a shooting for five out of five.

1062
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: But like that's where they because as Eric Coast has

1063
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: talked about, when you have so many superstars in your

1064
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: team and when you're paying Lamar Jackson and and whatnot,

1065
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 1: and you have more superstars that you're gonna want to pay,

1066
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: you have to always have if you're gonna stay competitive

1067
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance to win the super Bowl

1068
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: in and you're out, you just have to and keep

1069
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: the window open.

1070
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: You have to keep hitting on cheap starters in the draft.

1071
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 3: And yeah, and like right now, a narrative that's out

1072
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: there is like the Ravens have all these picks, They've

1073
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: got eleven picks, they have the ammunition to package picks

1074
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: and move up and like, and hearing from the Ravens

1075
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: this week and looking at how they tend to approach

1076
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 3: the draft overall, I just don't get the sense that

1077
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 3: that's the way they're thinking. They're not saying, like, all right,

1078
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: we got eleven picks, let's package five of them and

1079
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: move up a few spots in the first round. Like

1080
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: that's not the way they're thinking. I think they're looking

1081
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: at it like we got all these picks, we got

1082
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 3: a chance to get eleven playmakers, and we're really gonna

1083
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: have to make an impact in those middle rounds. That's

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Speaker 3: the way I think that they're looking at this draft

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Speaker 3: and the draft capital that they have.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 3: One last point here, and this is actually an email

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Speaker 3: I'll read. This email is from Andrew Constantino says, huge

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Speaker 3: fan of the pod. I started listening around this time

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Speaker 3: last year, have not missed an episode six. Nice Thank you, Andrew,

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Speaker 3: appreciate it, he said several years ago. I always remember

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Speaker 3: the Ravens toouting when they drafted Red star players. They

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Speaker 3: have not done so recently. However, do the scouts still

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Speaker 3: identify Red Star players? Why has that no longer talked about?

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Speaker 3: Is it an effort to protect confidentiality around the draft process?

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Speaker 3: What's the deal with Red Star players? Well, I actually

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Speaker 3: when I did sit down with Mark, I asked them

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Speaker 3: about Red Star players, like, is this something you still do?

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Speaker 3: The answer is yes, this is something the Ravens still do.

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Speaker 3: And basically, the way the Red Star player works is

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Speaker 3: that every scout gets their chance to put the Red

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Speaker 3: Star their flag next to one player. And it's not

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Speaker 3: just based on great player, it's the whole package, who

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Speaker 3: he is off the field, overcoming adversity, the story that

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Speaker 3: goes into it. And so these scouts take it seriously because,

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Speaker 3: especially if you're a scout that wants to make a

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Speaker 3: name for yourself and you're putting your name next to

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Speaker 3: a player, you want that player to hit. And scouts really,

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Speaker 3: in talking to Mark like that care about that. And

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Speaker 3: so it is still something that Ravens do. It happens

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Speaker 3: later in the process, so they collect all the information

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Speaker 3: during the combine, the Pro Day's, Senior Bowl, all that stuff,

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Speaker 3: and then this is like one of the later things

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Speaker 3: that happens right before the draft. So will the Ravens

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Speaker 3: end up drafting any of the Redstar guys? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: most likely, but that's how the process works, and it

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Speaker 3: definitely is still a piece of the equation.

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Speaker 6: Andrew, maybe we should have our guys like who's my guy?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I actually like that because you'll, oh, it'll well, it'll

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Speaker 3: it'll limit you. Like, that's the way the Red Star

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Speaker 3: process works. You get one star, you can put that

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Speaker 3: star next to one guy, so we're really gonna limit you.

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Speaker 2: But I wish to do this. I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it. And it's a good email. Good question

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Speaker 3: from Andrew. You can always email us at the lounge

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Speaker 3: at Ravens dot NFL dot.

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Speaker 1: There was one other email quickly. This is from Keaton,

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Speaker 1: who is twelve years old in sixth grade, says he

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Speaker 1: loves the podcast listens to him all, so thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Keaton might be our youngest email that we've

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Speaker 1: ever had.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so twelve, but that's probably a new record.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: He says he's wondering if the Ravens might get a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in free agency.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't really think free agency that would

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Speaker 3: surprise me a little bit. I think with these eleven

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Speaker 3: picks that they could use that as a way to

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Speaker 3: address receiver. I don't think it's a big need. I

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Speaker 3: think they have the top two with Zay and Bateman. Also,

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Speaker 3: they like the potential of tes Walker, who they drafted

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Speaker 3: last year in the middle rounds. So I think that

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Speaker 3: more likely the draft would be the aviated to do

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Speaker 3: it than free agency.

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Speaker 1: I think that if it's a free agency deal, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be you know, Eric de Coasta talked about

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Speaker 1: that they're going to be pursuing like veteran minimum contracts

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Speaker 1: and you know, more lower priced free agents. I could

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Speaker 1: see that, particularly if it's somebody that has return experience.

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Speaker 1: I think that they're certainly on the hunt for a returner,

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Speaker 1: and last year they signed Deontay Hardy that that one

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Speaker 1: didn't exactly pan out, But is there another shot at

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Speaker 1: somebody like that, you know, that's a that has return experience.

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Speaker 1: Of course they could the Ravens could bring back any

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Speaker 1: of their own free agent wide receivers Nelson Aguiloor, Tylan Wallace,

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Speaker 1: Steven Simms, Hardy.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't rule it out.

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Speaker 1: I think at some point there's gonna be a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver signing, and that player will be somebody that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about. It's not gonna be expensive, but we're talking.

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Speaker 2: About them, all right. Are they gonna make the fifty three?

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Speaker 2: They might.

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Speaker 1: They could get that you know, sixth spot, fifth spot

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Speaker 1: and make the fifty three.

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Speaker 3: All right, So there you go, Keaton. We appreciate the email,

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Speaker 3: thanks for listening to the show, and as always, you

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Speaker 3: can email us as the Lounge at Ravens dot NFL

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Speaker 3: dot net. Thank you so much for listening and we

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Speaker 3: will be back with you again.

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Speaker 8: So