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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 2: It's the day before the day and we are ready

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Speaker 2: to go. It's a Meet Wednesday around here as we

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Speaker 2: bring back sixteen twenty one. Dylan is doing the cooking

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Speaker 2: and he is dressing the part. If you're watching on Peacock,

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Speaker 2: be prepared. I don't know what kind of outfit you've

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Speaker 2: got on today, but it's different.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Lady Pilgrim sheep.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm waiting until that catches on in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 2: and then then I know it's going to be a

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Speaker 2: fad there.

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Speaker 4: You're actually about two weeks late on that.

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Speaker 2: To Meet Friday on Wednesday, And so Dylan said, and

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Speaker 2: Dylan's in for Fritzie today, so he said, let's just

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Speaker 2: recreate the sixteen twenty one Thanksgiving Day.

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Speaker 4: They called it a brunch in the forest, I believe

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Speaker 4: back then.

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Speaker 5: But we have.

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Speaker 4: Cornish game hens duck with corn breads, stuffing, butternut squash,

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Speaker 4: lobster muscles, and sea bass as it better than we do.

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Speaker 2: No body, Yeah, well wait a minute, are you guys

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Speaker 2: okay with that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Didn't fit? Oh wow?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Marvin, you okay.

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Speaker 5: With that.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: I'm grateful.

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Speaker 4: No, you're not. You're not thankful. You're not gratefulful. I'm offended.

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Speaker 8: Dylan is cooking this incredible feast. Yes, Paul, I love seafood.

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Speaker 8: I'm just reading the article now from the Smithsonian. I

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Speaker 8: didn't know they had shellfish and seafood at the first Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: I love this so cornish game hen duck, butternut, squash, soup,

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Speaker 2: lobster muscles, black sea bass. Okay, just oh buddy for

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Speaker 2: the rest of us, all right, In no particular order,

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Speaker 2: that college football rankings came out Ohio State, Indiana, A

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Speaker 2: and M Georgia, Texas Tech, Oregon, Old Miss, Oklahoma, Notre Dame,

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Speaker 2: and Alabama. Joe Burrow says he's playing if he's healthy,

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Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow and the Bengals aren't going to the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: but they could decide who wins the AFC North. Here's

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow on his possible return.

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Speaker 4: I understand why people feel that way, but you look.

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Speaker 9: At it from my perspective. I'm a football player, and

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Speaker 9: if I get hurt, I'm gonna go through the rehab

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Speaker 9: process and then I'm gonna let everybody know. When I

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Speaker 9: feel like I can go out there and play, I'm

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Speaker 9: not gonna ever go to somebody and say, yeah, I'm healthy,

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Speaker 9: but I don't think I don't think I should go

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Speaker 9: out there and play. That doesn't make a lot of

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Speaker 9: sense to me. I'm not gonna live my life and

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Speaker 9: play this game scared of something happening.

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Speaker 2: Chris collins Worth yesterday said he wouldn't bring Joe Burrow back.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Ross Tucker and Brady Quinn and get

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Speaker 2: their opinion on this. I understand it from a variety

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Speaker 2: of angles. You can't bubble wrap him. And then how

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Speaker 2: do you pick and choose when he plays and he

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Speaker 2: doesn't play. Let's say you don't have him play the

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Speaker 2: rest of this year. What if he gets a little

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Speaker 2: nicked up next year, which he probably will, then do

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Speaker 2: you shut him down again?

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Speaker 4: How long do you shut him down for?

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Speaker 2: You're paying him fifty million dollars And if you want

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Speaker 2: to put him out there, you have a fan base

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Speaker 2: that you have to play kit as well, and if

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Speaker 2: you can somehow have an impact on who wins the

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Speaker 2: AFC North or who doesn't, and you get to play

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Speaker 2: in some big games, big games from the perspective of

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Speaker 2: this could decide who makes the playoffs and who doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Your football player, there are inherent risks that come with

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Speaker 2: playing the game, and certainly that position. Would I play, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would. I'd put him out there because I want

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Speaker 2: him to be able to try to find some kind

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Speaker 2: of rhythm a little bit, just so we have some

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Speaker 2: momentum going into next season. You have a head coach

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Speaker 2: who might not be there next year. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 2: You don't have Trey Hendricks and your best defensive player

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Speaker 2: t Higgins not playing. So it's gonna be Joe Burrow

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Speaker 2: and Jamar Chase basically. And we saw what the Ravens

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Speaker 2: did against Shador Sanders when they blitzed just about on

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Speaker 2: every down. And I imagine if I'm the Ravens, I'm

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Speaker 2: coming after Joe Burrow. Now there's some great football coming

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Speaker 2: up and really important football Packers and Lions. I mean

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Speaker 2: that feels like the which one of you wants to

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Speaker 2: be a contender? And Chiefs and Cowboys. What's best for

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Speaker 2: the NFL if the Cowboys win or the Chiefs win?

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Speaker 2: Because do you want the Chiefs still alive? Do you

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Speaker 2: want them maybe getting into the playoffs, or the Cowboys

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Speaker 2: can be kind of on the doorstep of making the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That's a great matchup as well. And then the Bengals

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Speaker 2: in the Ravens, which is interesting because I'm waiting to

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Speaker 2: see if Lamar Jackson is going to be Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: from a year ago. He's not running as much as

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Speaker 2: he used to and we should probably get used to this.

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Speaker 2: This might be the Lamar Jackson two point zero. And

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Speaker 2: this happens with quarterbacks, guys who use their legs and

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Speaker 2: then they get to a certain point where they're not

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Speaker 2: going to be able to rely on those legs, or

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Speaker 2: they're going to have to stay in the pocket a

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Speaker 2: little bit more than what they normally do. Or those

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Speaker 2: design runs. While you have them, you just don't have

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Speaker 2: them as often as you did. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: great football college football as well, Ole Miss and Mississippi State.

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Speaker 2: Still no word on what's going to happen with Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to leak out before the game.

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Speaker 2: And I was on the phone with two different college

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Speaker 2: football sources last night. They didn't have an opinion. They

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Speaker 2: thought that he's gone, but they said, we have no

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Speaker 2: idea where he's going to go. But you know, can

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Speaker 2: he stay at Old Miss? Should he stay at Old Miss?

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Speaker 2: Like those seemed to be two questions with two different answers.

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Speaker 2: Of course he can stay, But it feels like Lane

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Speaker 2: Kiffin is out because if he was staying, I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to wait until after Friday's game. If

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Speaker 2: I'm staying, I'm announcing it prior to Friday's game because

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Speaker 2: nothing is going to make that locker room explode like that.

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Speaker 2: If he says, Hey, I thought long and hard about this,

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Speaker 2: I've discussed this with my family, this is my home.

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Speaker 4: I'm staying here. Boom.

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Speaker 2: Now let's go. Do you imagine hey thought long and

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Speaker 2: hard about this and I can't pass up LSU Let's

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Speaker 2: go get him?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the reaction is going to be kind of

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Speaker 2: like you guys to our meet Friday on a Wednesday. Okay, coach,

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Speaker 2: all right, Seeton, let's pull question for the first hour

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Speaker 2: of the program.

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Speaker 7: Paul sent this one over.

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Speaker 3: Who are you rooting for the Cowboys or the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: M because in general a lot of people don't root

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Speaker 3: for either.

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Speaker 4: Correct, Okay, Wow.

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Speaker 2: Usually you know the answer to a question you're going

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Speaker 2: to be asking people, But I don't know if I have, Well,

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Speaker 2: I have the Chiefs going to the Super Bowl, So

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say the Chiefs just because I want

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Speaker 2: them to, you know, go to the Super Bowl representing

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Speaker 2: the AFC, or I predicted them in the lines.

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Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Winning makes it spicier because now we have a legitimate

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Speaker 2: reason to talk about the Cowboys and they could play

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Speaker 2: spoilers slash slip into the playoffs. It just feels like

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs are always going to be kind of in

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Speaker 2: the picture because nobody's great in the AFC and you

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Speaker 2: have your chances. The Colts could have done a bit, big,

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Speaker 2: big favor to everybody in the AFC by winning that game.

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Speaker 4: I still love watching the homes play, So I'm going

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Speaker 4: to root for.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys ish because I think for content reasons I

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Speaker 2: would root for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeampoint.

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Speaker 3: In the last thirteen seasons, the Chiefs have missed the

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Speaker 3: playoffs once. That's nutty, Yeah, that's Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what else do we have their seaton?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think Dylan's feeling a little offended.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna go with this pole question as well,

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Speaker 2: which would you prefer the original Thanksgiving menu or the

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Speaker 2: one we have more modern times?

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Speaker 4: So this has more seafood, there seafood heavy. There is

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Speaker 4: venison that was heavily featured.

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Speaker 3: I scoured the local areas I could not get venison.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so my apologies.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to call my venison guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was in Vermont, this is years ago,

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Speaker 2: and a guy was going to help me move some

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Speaker 2: he goes, you know, I was driving here and I

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Speaker 2: saw a deer and I got out and I had

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Speaker 2: my crossbow and you know, and I will what. So

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Speaker 2: he ended up killing the deer and then you know,

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Speaker 2: getting venison for his freezer for the next you know,

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Speaker 2: year or so, and then.

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Speaker 4: Came over to help me move a chair. You actually

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, like, I'm looking to see what,

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Speaker 2: like he's got blood all over his hands or is

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Speaker 2: there a deer on the hood of the car. But

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Speaker 2: he he was saying, yeah, man, venison, it's great. He goes,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make you some venison. Stew I said, okay, yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 3: I once said to this guy, our mutual friend, man,

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Speaker 3: crossbows are soft. I thought he's gonna take me out.

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Speaker 3: I thought he's got to thumb gouge my eye right there.

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Speaker 2: I would never say somebody with a crossbow is sawt now,

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Speaker 2: never say that. All right, So we'll get a poll

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Speaker 2: question here. Brady Quinn will join us on loan from

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports. The big games coming up this weekend. I

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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time last night, probably over an

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Speaker 2: hour with each of my college football sources, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just kind of asking questions about Penn State, and you know,

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Speaker 2: they both listened. They said, you know, you're probably right,

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Speaker 2: Penn State made a mistake in firing James Franklin. If

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Speaker 2: you're going to fire somebody, who are you getting and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure, you know, and you know

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Speaker 2: the fact that you're firing him in October. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if it was, hey, we have our guy to

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Speaker 2: we need to get rid of this guy. And they,

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Speaker 2: from what I'm told, went after Mike Elko at Texas

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Speaker 2: A and m pretty hard. But right now maybe they

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Speaker 2: don't have a leader in the clubhouse. And Matt Ruhle

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Speaker 2: was never really a candidate. From what I was told,

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Speaker 2: he used it to get a contract extension at Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that both of these college football sources

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Speaker 2: told me is what is going on at the high

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Speaker 2: school level with nil And they named names, but I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to of a football player who's in high

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Speaker 2: school and there's a bidding war between two major schools

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Speaker 2: and he has a two million he's in high school

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Speaker 2: senior year, he's got a two million dollar NIL package

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Speaker 2: and one school just up the ante and not necessarily

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Speaker 2: at a position where you would think you're getting two

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Speaker 2: high school and you got a bidding more. They're getting

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Speaker 2: into the the high school ranks. That's where they're starting now.

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Speaker 2: They're not waiting until you're transferring. These schools are going

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Speaker 2: after the high school kids. And they've been doing this again.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not what they all do though, not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Hey it's Maui.

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Speaker 3: Is that the thing to do as a billionaire, even

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Speaker 7: You like it or not, You're in the middle of

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Speaker 7: a Coveno on Rich Sandwich.

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Speaker 12: Exactly, And who cares about the Thanksgiving Day parade?

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Speaker 7: Watch us now?

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Speaker 12: Like Rich said on YouTube, do you really care about

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Speaker 12: the return of Felix the Cat?

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Speaker 7: Probably? You know, my kid out there knows Felix the Cat.

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Speaker 7: Well, Rich's head is equally as big.

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Speaker 12: Tell them to watch pull that up on the TV

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Speaker 12: YouTube page Coveno and Rich FSR, Covino and Rich FSR.

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Speaker 12: But the biggest story today besides Turkey ass and friends

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Speaker 7: I mean a story.

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Speaker 6: I mean football, particularly in my opinion, pay attention, listen up.

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Speaker 6: Hate to say this, Detroit Lions lose today.

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Speaker 7: It's over.

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Speaker 7: What are you bringing? I'm bringing myself.

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Speaker 12: I already brought myself from La back to Jersey to

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Speaker 12: I'm lining the rest of the day watching TV, watching

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Speaker 6: Doesn't get much better than that. I know you think

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's really my role.

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Speaker 12: It's like, my biggest role is how could I eat

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Speaker 12: I coasted through the day yesterday, knowing that Thanksgiving was today,

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Speaker 10: So you know, my.

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Speaker 7: That's really it.

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Speaker 12: And we got some great games, dude, It's gonna be

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Speaker 6: Well, let's let's dive in. That's no more dilly dally,

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Speaker 6: no Lions packers. Y know this this game means so

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Speaker 6: if you didn't hear me, Lions lose today. I think

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Speaker 12: You've really convinced me to be more of a schedule watcher,

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Speaker 7: You like the captain crunch of crunch on this.

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Speaker 7: You're the dad of a pain in the ass teenage daughter.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Steve Cavino, true, yes and very very expensive.

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Speaker 7: Yes, you yourself were.

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Speaker 6: Like once I get passed the Sweet sixteen, and then I

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Speaker 7: Oh my, one of those teams is out.

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Speaker 6: I'm convinced that the Seahawks and the Niners are both

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Speaker 6: Go eleven and six. You're in the Lions, Packers, and Bears.

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Speaker 6: Listen to these schedules. If the Lions lose today to

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Speaker 6: They lose today, they're seven and five, which is pedestrian.

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Speaker 10: As they say.

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Speaker 6: Then they got to play the Cowboys, And I said

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Speaker 6: to Danny g before the show, Danny, we're like, not

441
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Speaker 6: sleeping on the Cowboys, but they're like so just coasting

442
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Speaker 6: through this season that the tie they had with the

443
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Speaker 6: Packers is so indicative of how I feel about them.

444
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Speaker 6: They're still like, man, But if they win today, if

445
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Speaker 6: they upset the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas, not

446
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Speaker 6: impossible at all.

447
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Speaker 7: They've changes their narrative a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they'd be six, five and one, So why we

449
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Speaker 6: make it seem like they're completely out of it. If

450
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Speaker 6: they went on a run, right, so they the Lions

451
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Speaker 6: would have to play the Cowboys next week. Then they

452
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Speaker 6: played the Rams in LA who you could argue is

453
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Speaker 6: the best team in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Then they play.

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Speaker 6: The Vikings and the Bears, and to me, I just

456
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Speaker 6: think that the Packers. If the Packers beat the Lions today,

457
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Speaker 6: you can see Dan Campbell and Jared Goff just feeling

458
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Speaker 6: really like, wow, what a step backwards for a team

459
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Speaker 6: that would you say for the last couple of years

460
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Speaker 6: is everyone's like other than their own team was like, man,

461
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Speaker 6: it's really nice to see the Lions good again.

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Speaker 12: It's the most detrimental for the Lions, no question, no dignity,

463
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Speaker 12: no doubt. The NFC North is stacked, and we're going

464
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Speaker 12: to see this all pan out and play out throughout

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Speaker 12: the day. I think we need to start by saying,

466
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Speaker 12: where were we with the Green Bay Packers early in

467
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Speaker 12: the season, right with Michael Parsons and everything, very high

468
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Speaker 12: on them. Let's keep that in mind and think about

469
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Speaker 12: where we are today. The Lions, however, here's how I

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Speaker 12: see it.

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Speaker 6: Rich Oh, and they have to play this Steelers. That

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Speaker 6: was the one game I forgot. But that's again, that's

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Speaker 6: that's like one of those I.

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Speaker 7: Don't know Steelers.

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Speaker 12: We were very high on the Packers leading into this season,

476
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Speaker 12: but we've been high on the Lions for like the

477
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Speaker 12: past three years, and how much time do you really

478
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Speaker 12: get in the NFL to really make that impact and

479
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Speaker 12: really break through.

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Speaker 7: You know you're the guy.

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Speaker 12: I gotta quote Captain crunch Rich Davis, the Crunchberries, the Saggies.

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Speaker 12: You also say that, hmm, there's only little windows in

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Speaker 12: the NFL. And when you think about the Lions and

484
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Speaker 12: Dan Campbell and Jared Goff, this is their chance to

485
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Speaker 12: do it.

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Speaker 7: If not now, what another year?

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Speaker 12: You can give them another year to be dominant in

488
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Speaker 12: the NFL, another year to be dominant in this ever

489
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Speaker 12: changing NFC North where you got the Bears who are

490
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Speaker 12: looking legit it's now or never, like that old ESPN

491
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Speaker 12: show we used to host, It's.

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Speaker 7: Now or Ever for the one ever. Honestly, that's how

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Speaker 7: I'm seeing it.

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Speaker 12: And Jared Goff, he's thirty one, but he feels like

495
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Speaker 12: he's forty one.

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Speaker 7: He feels like he's thirty.

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Speaker 6: No, why he feels older because he was straight up

498
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Speaker 6: traded for Matthew Stafford and we're like, what Stafford thirty seven?

499
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Speaker 6: So when is GOP thirty seven? No that, but it

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Speaker 6: feels like it. It feels like it. It also feels

501
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Speaker 6: like he's had his chance with the Lions. The Lions

502
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Speaker 6: have come so close, They've played so tough, right, they've

503
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Speaker 6: proven to be like we've criticized Dan Campbell and his raw,

504
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Speaker 6: raw attitude at first, and he proved to be that guy.

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Speaker 6: And they proved to be that team to take chances

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Speaker 6: and they play tough and gritty.

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Speaker 12: But they're not playing that same way this year seven

508
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Speaker 12: and four. This is the weekend they have to turn

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Speaker 12: it around. So when Rich and I agree, it's a

510
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Speaker 12: fact that Lions have to beat the Packers today at home,

511
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Speaker 12: and if they don't, I'd have to say that little

512
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Speaker 12: window that we're talking about, that little window of opportunity

513
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Speaker 12: is definitely closing if it's not.

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Speaker 6: Now, Danny, we talk about these little windows, and we

515
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Speaker 6: want to assume that everyone's everyone peaks with a Super

516
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Speaker 6: Bowl appearance or win.

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Speaker 7: Some teams peak and it's almost there, and that's the peak.

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Speaker 13: Sometimes windows get jammed up, though, because Detroit lost their

519
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Speaker 13: offensive coordinator Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 7: Now Ben Johnson, you could see that something's just not

521
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Speaker 7: clicking right.

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Speaker 13: You hear that on radio and TV shows, but you

523
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Speaker 13: also don't hear anyone mention anymore. That they also lost

524
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Speaker 13: their defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn and then so that.

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Speaker 10: Hurts as well.

526
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Speaker 7: Samuel Porta.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, their center Frank Ragnow who is coming back now

528
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Speaker 13: retired not coming back for them, and guard they're one

529
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Speaker 13: of their best guards signed with the Titans. So there

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Speaker 13: is some context to this. It's not like all of

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Speaker 13: a sudden they woke up and they stink.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's what happens, as you know, when a team,

533
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Speaker 6: when a team is good, and this happens in all sports,

534
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Speaker 6: but especially the NFL, a team gets good, all of

535
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Speaker 6: a sudden, everyone wants to and deserves to get paid,

536
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Speaker 6: and you can't really keep that team fully intact anymore.

537
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Speaker 6: If you're really good, you know what happens. Your offensive

538
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Speaker 6: and defensive coordinator start to get opportunities to head coach

539
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Speaker 6: other places. Your your role players get the most money

540
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 6: role players could get, and your star players on the

541
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Speaker 6: top of the tier for wide receiver, quarterback, tight end.

542
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Speaker 6: So it's very hard to keep a dynasty together. And

543
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Speaker 6: the Lions right now are a very big crossroads today

544
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Speaker 6: Thanksgiving where they've lost seven of their last eight Thanksgiving

545
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Speaker 6: Day games.

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Speaker 7: Now, I know they weren't really good for most of

547
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Speaker 7: those years.

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Speaker 12: But dude, this is such a big crossroads. I saw

549
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Speaker 12: bone thugs in Harmony just check.

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Speaker 10: By the way.

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Speaker 13: I know it's not sexy football talk to talk about

552
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 13: the line in the center, but we heard Isaac Lohenkron

553
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Speaker 13: on our afternoon show yesterday talk about how rag Now

554
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Speaker 13: is going to come out of retirement. The Lions could

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Speaker 13: see him return against the Rams.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, and he's a big deal. He was a

558
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Speaker 6: four time Pro Bowl makes a big difference. And you

559
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Speaker 6: know we've seen it with certain players in the NFL.

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Speaker 6: You see with Joe Alt for the Chargers, you lose,

561
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Speaker 6: or big Trent Williams for the Niners. If one of

562
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Speaker 6: your big linemen are down, like a star player, that

563
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: changes the whole complexity of like every Just.

564
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Speaker 7: Ask the Chargers as the raider.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So, but again, we can't be surprised if it doesn't

567
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Speaker 12: go the Lions way today when you think about again

568
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Speaker 12: how quick the narratives change and how high we were

569
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Speaker 12: on the Packers leading into the season, right so we're

570
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Speaker 12: starting to see those things paying out.

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Speaker 7: But I think we've made it clear.

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Speaker 12: Fox Sports Radio Nation, Dan Patrick Nation, this is the

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Speaker 12: biggest for the Lions right now.

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Speaker 7: It's their time. They have to make it happen.

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Speaker 12: They have to win today if they want to see

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Speaker 12: the playoffs, if they want to make that impact. And

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Speaker 12: we want to know what you think about the NFC

578
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Speaker 12: North Bears, Packers, Lions, Vikings. What do you think in

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Speaker 12: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we're telling you

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Speaker 12: what we're thinking here.

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Speaker 6: He said, Vikings. And the funny part is like such

582
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Speaker 6: a non factor, but not really. You know why they'll

583
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Speaker 6: because the Vikings could very well be the team that

584
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Speaker 6: f's up someone's little mission or a goal. Like Division

585
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Speaker 6: games are never easy because these teams know each other,

586
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Speaker 6: there's history, this rivalry is like, so what if the

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Speaker 6: Vikings are the team that.

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Speaker 7: Or what if Wretch the Bear really are that good?

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Speaker 12: Of all the teams that we speak of, they're the

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Speaker 12: ones you sleep on the most, and they're eight and three,

591
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Speaker 12: and they're the ones that have been consistently better and

592
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Speaker 12: better every week. I don't want to sound like a

593
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Speaker 12: broken record, but on our show, I'm telling you they're

594
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Speaker 12: like a stock that just keeps going up.

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Speaker 7: They're just going up and looking better every week.

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Speaker 6: The Bears are what happens when a plan works out

597
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Speaker 6: the way you think it will. Like, all right, we're

598
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Speaker 6: gonna get Ben Johnson and he what he's gonna do

599
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 6: is he's gonna, you know, really be an asset to

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams and you'll see, and it's working out the

601
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Speaker 6: way they wanted. Chicago crap never works out that way.

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Speaker 6: But it is working out perfectly. But you know, dare

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Speaker 6: I look at the schedule just a little more.

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Speaker 1: Oh the rich loves to look at the schedule. Get schedule,

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 7: I love looking at the schedule.

607
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Speaker 6: And I'm sorry if it's a pay the st but

608
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Speaker 6: let me break something down because I said the Lions

609
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Speaker 6: are seven and four.

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Speaker 7: They have a tough road ahead.

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Speaker 6: They could go five hund though the rest of the way,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know if that's enough. Because we've talked

613
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Speaker 6: about how in the NFC, I think eleven and six

614
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Speaker 6: is that magic record that will get you into the postseason.

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Speaker 6: I think ten and seven will not make the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: except for the winner of the NFC South, which is

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Speaker 6: probably gonna be like the Bucks at nine and eight

618
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Speaker 6: or something. I know we're still a little while away.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to look too much ahead. But here

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Speaker 6: I am getting down on the Lions. I want to

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Speaker 6: hear from you guys, Dan Patrick, Dan at Nation, because

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Speaker 6: I feel like you can make that same argument that

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Speaker 6: if all right, well, if the Packers lose today, they're

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Speaker 6: seven to four and one, they have to play the

625
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Speaker 6: Bears twice, they have to play the.

626
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Speaker 7: Ravens and the Broncos.

627
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Speaker 6: The Ravens fighting for their division, the Broncos one of

628
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Speaker 6: the best AFC teams.

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Speaker 7: So you can see the Packers falling apart.

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Speaker 6: And there's this weird sentiment that, you know, six weeks ago,

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Speaker 6: we're like, man, they got Michael Parsons, this team's the

632
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Speaker 6: team to be, and then all of a sudden, they've

633
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Speaker 6: played average. Jordan Loves had some good moments, but I

634
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Speaker 6: think we also want to just believe that, man, the

635
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Speaker 6: Packers are a quarterback machine.

636
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Speaker 7: Like they go from you know.

637
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Speaker 6: Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love, like

638
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Speaker 6: we like too quick to think Jordan Love's in that progression,

639
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Speaker 6: like hold up, maybe not, I don't know, and then

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Speaker 6: your Bears your bear here.

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Speaker 12: People have been saying who are the Packers and their identity?

642
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Speaker 7: Whose are they?

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Speaker 12: With that schedule will coming up, you're gonna find out

644
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Speaker 12: real quick who they really are because that's competitive.

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Speaker 6: All right, Let's let's do the Bears schedule, and then

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Speaker 6: we'll take your feedback at eight seven, seven nine nine

647
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Speaker 6: on Fox.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate it if you're listening.

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Speaker 6: On the app, if you're on your way to Grandma's

650
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: house or driving around eight seven, seven nine nine on Fox.

651
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Speaker 6: Cavino and Rich try to keep it as interactive as possible.

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Speaker 6: Love filling in for Dan Patrick. I'll give you the

653
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Speaker 6: Bears final six games. Now, I don't I don't want

654
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Speaker 6: to be a pain in the assen and make you

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Speaker 6: do this, but I'm going to. All right, they play

656
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Speaker 6: tomorrow Black Friday, in arguably their biggest game of the

657
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Speaker 6: year because they're eight and three, a test of all tests.

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Speaker 6: They go to Philadelphia. Let's say the Eagles win, little

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Speaker 6: little uh maybe maybe you could argue, hey, it's a

660
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Speaker 6: close game, but we'll give experience and home field to

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Speaker 6: the Eagles tomorrow. And that's how that's how you may

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Speaker 6: look at it. Or what Eagles are favored by seven?

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Speaker 6: I thought that would be like three and a half

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Speaker 6: or so seven. So Vegas the Bears and they're nine

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Speaker 6: and three, all right, but.

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Speaker 7: Let's let's let's be negative.

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Speaker 6: Uh, Norbertos for a second, Jose, let's be negative nancies.

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Speaker 6: Let's say let's say the Eagles just outclassed them. Okay,

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Speaker 6: now they're eight and four. They played two games against

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Speaker 6: the Packers. Still, let's say they split those games, right,

671
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Speaker 6: nine and five? One lost one win? Right, you know,

672
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Speaker 6: a little push. They beat the Browns. Now they're ten

673
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Speaker 6: and five. They play the forty nine ers in the Lions. Wow,

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Speaker 6: one and one, so they mayn't eleven and six like

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Speaker 6: eleven and six I think is a conservative.

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Speaker 7: I think that's fair to say, right, because the Niners

677
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Speaker 7: are gonna edule.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I think today, So I'll stick by my

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Speaker 6: original feeling that whoever loses today, Packers or Lions.

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Speaker 7: Out out. I'm pretty sure Danny g agrees.

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Speaker 12: I think the whole show agrees that is most important

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Speaker 12: for the Lions right now.

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Speaker 6: I hate to say it because again I think all

684
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Speaker 6: these teams are fun. But you know what, through everyone

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Speaker 6: for a loop, the NFC West having three teams that

686
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Speaker 6: are going to have double digit wins because I thought,

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people thought that the forty

688
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Speaker 6: nine ers would either struggle if people were hurt, and

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Speaker 6: they've actually Kyle Shanahan's out coached the world.

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Speaker 7: The Rams are really good. No one thought they'd be

691
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Speaker 7: that good.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Matthew Stafford's been as healthy as could be

693
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Speaker 6: and the Coup is the only guy banged up for

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Speaker 6: a little bit and he's back. And the Seahawks that

695
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 6: that team, like if we're trying to figure out their identity,

696
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 6: how about Terry Denny's just that they're really good and

697
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 6: Sam Darnold's playing like a g Like.

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Speaker 7: That team's surprised the hell out of me.

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Speaker 6: So I think because the NFC West had the weakest

700
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Speaker 6: out of conference schedule, out of division schedule, they're all

701
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Speaker 6: double digit win teams, a lot of tough games for

702
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Speaker 6: the NFC North. So one of those three powerhouse teams

703
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Speaker 6: is out. And I think I think it's very clear

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Speaker 6: that whoever loses today A is not going to get

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Speaker 6: a Turkey leg and they're not Turkey and there and

706
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Speaker 6: then no Turkey ass.

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Speaker 7: That's the best part.

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Speaker 6: So whoever loses today, Jared Goff might be walking away

709
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Speaker 6: without turkey as and without a playoff spot.

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Speaker 7: You know what the toughest part is.

711
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Speaker 12: Then you're saying all this, you're getting me excited, right, Hey, rich,

712
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 12: great job, crunching numbers, crunching schedule.

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Speaker 7: I just love what I know. Yeah, I don't care

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Speaker 7: about the prey today.

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Speaker 12: I'm not even caring that much about the Turkey as

716
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 12: I am really caring about these games. And that's what

717
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 12: we're trying to do, get you pumped about it and

718
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 12: trying to see what you think about it.

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Speaker 6: Think of how many years, Think of how many years

720
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Speaker 6: we watched a meaningless like Bears Lions Thanksgiving game just

721
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Speaker 6: because it was tradition and they were both under five hundred.

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Speaker 6: Today we have games of significance, and that is significant

723
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Speaker 6: because usually it's like, oh, background football, we love it,

724
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: it's Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 7: We actually have games that are worthy of paying attention to.

726
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Speaker 7: But dude, get this. I'm so glad you said that. Okay,

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Speaker 7: timmy noil breaks.

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Speaker 12: Get this, games that you want to pay attention to,

729
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 12: because why usually it's just background fun while you're stuff

730
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Speaker 12: in your face and chatting it up with Uncle Bart.

731
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Speaker 7: Right if Uncle Fred and your little uncle Bart's already

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Speaker 7: drunk at lunch talk, No, but.

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Speaker 12: You got your little nieces and nephews and family there, right,

734
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Speaker 12: it's kind of hard to really chop it up and

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Speaker 12: pay attention to whatever nonsense they're yapping about. When you're

736
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Speaker 12: so glued on these games that matter for once, it's

737
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Speaker 12: going to be so hard to be engaged with your

738
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Speaker 12: family that you never see when you're really focused in

739
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Speaker 12: on these games. H yeah, I guess wah wah your

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Speaker 12: uncle uh, your uncle Fred and aunt fanny'.

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Speaker 7: Wah wah wah wah. You're like, yeah, yeah, uncle Frank,

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Speaker 7: tell me tell me more.

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Speaker 6: You say you went on a cruise white Oh wow,

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 6: Royal Caribbean Carnival, which, oh that sounds great. Oh so

745
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 6: oh you met another couple on the cruise from Oh,

746
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Speaker 6: that's tell me more.

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Speaker 12: You were not going to care about anything anyone saying today.

748
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 12: Good luck trying to pay attention to that when you

749
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 12: got these games.

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Speaker 14: This is a man who I think the nerves are

755
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 14: a little heightened this weekend.

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Speaker 10: Yeah you can. That's a big nervous. It's a big nervous.

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Speaker 7: Is this the Ohio State fight song?

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Speaker 5: Is this?

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Speaker 7: Is this the Ohio do we have this correct? Is

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Speaker 7: this the one?

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Speaker 5: A B?

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Speaker 4: Is this the one?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Thanks for getting my nerves.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I've rat to.

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Speaker 14: Get you got to be nervous, man, I just uh,

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Speaker 14: I mean, Ryan Day's got an interesting approach. I don't

767
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Speaker 14: know if you saw the news auber Breer, but Ryan

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Speaker 14: Days having the team fly in as opposed to that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which I would think, like, actually it would take

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Speaker 5: longer because thinking about it, it's like a little under

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Speaker 5: three hours if you're driving right, like and if you're

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Speaker 5: driving the high drive anyway, and so like if you're

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Speaker 5: talking about like going to the airport boarding and I

774
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 5: know this charger, but like going to the airport boarding

775
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Speaker 5: getting off in Detroit, and then it's like still another

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Speaker 5: whatever twenty five minutes from an arbor, Like I would

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Speaker 5: think that would take longer, right, Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 15: I think you're reaching, Abe. I think you're reaching because

779
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 15: you're trying to end your mind justify if it goes wrong.

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Speaker 15: Why they should have just want to hit and drove

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Speaker 15: in the buses as opposed to you're going to start

782
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Speaker 15: it as the origin of messing up this year's game

783
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Speaker 15: was the fact that Ryan Day chose to fly instead

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Speaker 15: of draft.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, but this out logistically, I'm a travel condo sewer.

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Speaker 10: So I'm just saying what it sounds like. Abe, That's

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Speaker 10: what I'm just. I just want you to say.

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Speaker 15: I just want you to understand what the listener is

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Speaker 15: hearing from you right now.

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Speaker 10: That's that's that's all I want.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm just I'm actually just like,

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Speaker 5: you know, looking at this because I'm I'm kind of

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Speaker 5: like a I'm I'm like a doctor of travel. Basically,

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Speaker 5: this based on all the travel I've done. So I

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Speaker 5: just I like to analyze these things, you know, from

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Speaker 5: a from a pure fact standpoint. And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what will be faster.

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Speaker 5: I think driving might be faster.

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Speaker 10: Do you really think so, I mean that's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I think so. Yeah. Well it's like two hundred it's

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Speaker 5: two hundred miles, right, so it's it's it's almost like

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Speaker 5: exactly two hundred miles. So you figure you can do

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Speaker 5: that in three hours. Okay, So if you do that

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Speaker 5: in three hours, like it probably takes you, i don't know,

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Speaker 5: fifteen minutes to get from fifteen twenty minutes get from

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Speaker 5: campus to the airport? Then how long does it take

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Speaker 5: you to board the plane?

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Speaker 10: Right? Like probably like forty five to an hour.

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Speaker 5: You're probably in the air for it's probably like a

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Speaker 5: half hour forty five minutes in the air. Right then

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Speaker 5: you land, you taxi, you d plane, you get on

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Speaker 5: another bus, Like I think how far as that bus?

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Speaker 5: More than three hours? Huh?

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Speaker 10: How much is how far is the bus from the

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Speaker 10: hotel from where you're going?

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Speaker 5: Well in art because the Detroit airports like halfway between

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Speaker 5: actual Detroit Man Arbor, So it's like twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 10: It might be quicker. It sounds a little quicker.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 10: It sounds a little quicker to fly. Maybe not that much,

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Speaker 10: but maybe a little quicker.

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Speaker 5: It's cool.

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Speaker 10: It might it might be too.

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Speaker 15: Close to to like split hairs on it is what

825
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Speaker 15: you're trying to say.

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Speaker 10: So they should should they drive? So should they have draft? Baby?

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Speaker 5: I don't mind. I don't mind. No, I don't I

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Speaker 5: don't mind. I don't mind keeping the routine. I think

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Speaker 5: that that was smart by Ryan to keep the routine.

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Speaker 5: I'm just again like I'm way too interested in these

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Speaker 5: sorts of questions.

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Speaker 14: Well, we're gonna get your uh, your your pick on

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Speaker 14: the game, like we do every single week when you

834
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Speaker 14: join us on Fox Sports Radio. But I did want

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Speaker 14: to ask you, based on what we saw last night,

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Speaker 14: because look, Joe Burrow gives them a boost, they come back,

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Speaker 14: Cincinnati wins that game, what's wrong with Baltimore because, like, honestly,

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Speaker 14: because it just it hasn't looked good really all year

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Speaker 14: outside of a couple of spots, but Lamar Jackson does

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Speaker 14: not look like the same player.

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Speaker 5: Well, and I think that's sort of what it comes

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Speaker 5: down to. I think their defense is fine for the

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Speaker 5: most part, like I, and I think like what you

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Speaker 5: saw last night was one of the best players in

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Speaker 5: football coming back into the lineup in the second half

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Speaker 5: of that game really looking like himself, you know, which

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Speaker 5: you would expect Joe Burrow to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 5: create generate offense, you know, no matter who's on the

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Speaker 5: other side. So that was, you know, obviously part of

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Speaker 5: the equation. But I do think the Baltimore defense has

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Speaker 5: played pretty well on balance over the course of the year.

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Speaker 5: So then you know, like you then then the next

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Speaker 5: question would be where's the offense at? And like, really,

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Speaker 5: to me, that offense is not like the same all year,

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Speaker 5: and you know, I think if we're going back to

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00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 5: when Lamar got hurt, right like, and how that affects them.

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Speaker 5: Like I thought last night, like for the first time,

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Speaker 5: it does look like he's start he's starting to get

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Speaker 5: the juice back in his legs right like where you

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Speaker 5: can still you can still you know, pull it and

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Speaker 5: run it the way that he's always been able to.

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Speaker 5: We started to see that come back, like last night,

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Speaker 5: I think he saw it. I just wonder, like, you know,

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Speaker 5: like does this injury. Has this injury had an effect

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Speaker 5: his mechanics, because you know, quarterbacks like little things can

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Speaker 5: screw up, screw up things to the point where it's like, okay,

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Speaker 5: like maybe it's not the most noticeable thing in the world,

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Speaker 5: but you can throw your accuracy off a little bit,

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Speaker 5: you know, or it can make you It can it

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Speaker 5: can it can cause a little bit of like a

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Speaker 5: tweak in the way you play that needs to be

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Speaker 5: fixed when you get to the offseason. So, you know,

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Speaker 5: Lamar is still a great, great player, but we're so

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Speaker 5: used to him being, you know, in that group of

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Speaker 5: four quarterbacks with him and Burrow and Mahomes and Allen,

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Speaker 5: and it's just like again, like not like he's falling

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Speaker 5: off the face of the earth. But they don't look

878
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 5: as dangerous offensively as they have and it'll be interesting

879
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: to see if they can get that together. Because remember,

880
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: as you know, up and down as things have been,

881
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: they they did win five in a row going into

882
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 5: last night's game, and the rest of their schedule is

883
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: pretty interesting. They'll play the Steelers twice. They got to

884
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 5: play the Bengals again in two weeks, so you know,

885
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: as strange as it sounds, for two is coming in

886
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: last night, three and eight, Like the door is still

887
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 5: open for the Bengals to win the AFC North. They

888
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 5: need some help for sure, but like there's a way

889
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: for it to happen if they swoop the Ravens. The

890
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 5: Ravens are up to seven losses then, and so the

891
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 5: Ravens would only need to lose one more game, and

892
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 5: the Ravens play the Steelers twice. I believe they got

893
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 5: the Lions in there too, where it'd be like you

894
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: could easily see them losing one more game, and if

895
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 5: the Steelers level off like now all of a sudden,

896
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 5: if the Bengals can run the table, and that's a

897
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: lot to ask, but the Bengals run the table now

898
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they can seek in the playoffs.

899
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 15: I think you're absolutely correct. In fact, I feel like

900
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 15: that's what I explained to Jonas early on in.

901
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 10: The show, by the way, So there you go. I

902
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 10: like your reasoning right there.

903
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 15: Ab Let me ask you about another team that finds

904
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 15: themselves in maybe a compromising position right now based off

905
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 15: of what Mike Vrabel has been able to do in

906
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 15: New England.

907
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 10: Are the Buffalo.

908
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 7: Bills are they plateauing?

909
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 15: Are are they hitting a ceiling of sorts in terms

910
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 15: of what we should expect and anticipate from them.

911
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's some interesting questions with them, LeVar, like I

912
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 5: so like, I mean, one is like they do need

913
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: to get healthier, right so they won't get Oliver back

914
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: until the playoffs, but that's obviously a huge piece for

915
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: them to lose, and they're relying on some younger guys

916
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: like Walker and Sanders to pick up the slack for

917
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 5: them on the interior of the d line, which is

918
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 5: a big deal, right Like, and then not having Dalton

919
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: Kincaid that was that was an issue. I mean, the

920
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 5: collapse of Keon Coleman like that hurt as well, which

921
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 5: part of the reason why they're bring in Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

922
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: I think the overarching question now become one at such

923
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 5: a high level with that core that they built around

924
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: Josh Allen. You know five, six, seven years ago when

925
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 5: you guys like Hide and Employer and Stefan Diggs and

926
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: and you know, that group was able to win at

927
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: a high level. And now what you've done is you've

928
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 5: effectively replaced that group with some homegrown talent. And so

929
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: you paid Rousseau, you paid Khalil Shakir, you paid James Cook,

930
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 5: you paid Terrell Bernard, you paid Christian Benford. So, like

931
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 5: a lot of people said, it's a window closing, I

932
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: don't think that's it. Like I think where it is

933
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 5: is this group that you've paid isn't good enough, you

934
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And was that money well spent?

935
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 5: And I think we know how good the quarterback is,

936
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: but there's a lot more to it than just the

937
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 5: quarterback here, and so I think seeing that part of

938
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: it play out is going to be the interesting thing

939
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 5: because they really need those guys that they paid, those

940
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 5: guys that they've invested in to be part of the

941
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 5: new corps. That replaced the first corps that Josh won

942
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 5: with to step up and and be who you know,

943
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 5: like they thought those guys were going to be able

944
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 5: to be when they paid them.

945
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 14: Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior NFL

946
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 14: reporter at the MMQB dot com. You can get him

947
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 14: on X at Albert Breer. We kind of made mention

948
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 14: of this a little bit last hour because you know

949
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 14: we're watching, you know, you're going to see the Bears

950
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 14: play later on NFC North.

951
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 7: Things are headed in the right direction. It seems like

952
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 7: you see the.

953
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 14: Packers and the Lions teams that are still good teams,

954
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 14: and then you got the Vikings and how patient are

955
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 14: they going to be with JJ McCarthy knowing they let

956
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 14: Sam Darnold walk, they let Daniel Jones walk, and this

957
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 14: is the result.

958
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 5: So like I I think there are two layers there

959
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 5: this year and then there's the future. Right so for

960
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 5: this year, like Max Brosmer did enough, you know in

961
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: the summer where they would and I talked to people

962
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 5: that have said this, like they would really like to

963
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 5: see what he looks like in a regular season game,

964
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 5: and they know I have that opportunity was going to

965
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 5: present itself, but he had done enough where it was like,

966
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 5: you know, we'd really like to see what this kid

967
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 5: could do at some point, right, And so there's that

968
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: piece of it, and that could happen. It looks like

969
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 5: it's going to happen organically this week with with McCarthy's concussion, right,

970
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: so you know, if JJ's out this week, then they

971
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 5: get a look at Max Brosmer, and then you know,

972
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: the question becomes like is Brozmer a better option if

973
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 5: he plays really well for the rest of the year,

974
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: you know, And then there's a second level to it,

975
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,919
Speaker 5: which is what does this mean for the future. Well,

976
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, I think a big piece of the rest

977
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: of this year for them was like we need answers

978
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: on JJ McCarthy now, and we need to figure out

979
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 5: who he is now so we can start to plan

980
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty six and going forward. And you know, really,

981
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 5: for them what that's about. It's not like they want

982
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 5: to continue to develop JJ. There's a lot of stuff

983
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 5: they love about JJ, but this isn't a rebuilding team.

984
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 5: And I've said this to you guys since March and April,

985
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: right when they did try to bring DJ back, and

986
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 5: they did try to bring Sam back. Like this is

987
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 5: a team that's got a lot of proud veteran players

988
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 5: that are the primes of their career, right Like, so

989
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 5: like if I'm justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison or Christian

990
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 5: Darisaw or Jonathan Gernard or Andrew Van Ginkel, like like

991
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that, Like you know, like

992
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: we're going to spend another year figuring this out. Like

993
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 5: you got to have answers on the roster for those guys, right, Like,

994
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 5: this isn't a team that can just throw seasons overboard

995
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 5: in the name of quarterback development. So like I think

996
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 5: JJ has to earn his spot for twenty six and

997
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 5: then he plays great the rest of the year, they

998
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 5: go in the playoffs and make some noise, then he's

999
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: a quarterback. If it looks like it's looked, I fully

1000
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 5: expect that they're going to bring in competition for him

1001
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 5: next year, you know, So like there's a lot on

1002
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: the line, I think, and again, like it's not necessarily

1003
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 5: JJ's fault, but like this is a double edged swort

1004
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 5: of going to a place like this. When he was drafted,

1005
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 5: everybody's like, well, that's a great spot to go, and

1006
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 5: it was you know what I mean, absolutely is a

1007
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 5: great spot to go with Kevin O'Connell and the receivers

1008
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,760
Speaker 5: they have in the line, they have all that different stuff.

1009
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 5: The other edge to that sword, though, is that like

1010
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 5: a place like that isn't going to be as app

1011
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 5: to wait for you. You know, It's kind of like

1012
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: San Francisco back a few years ago with Trey Lance.

1013
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 5: It was like that team could not wait for Trey

1014
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 5: Lance to develop. That team needed an answer and in

1015
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 5: the president, and they got that answer with proc party

1016
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 5: and they moved forward. So there's some similarities between this

1017
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 5: situation and where the Niners were a few years ago

1018
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 5: with Trey Lance.

1019
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 15: How are how are the internals looking at what's going

1020
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 15: on in Las Vegas?

1021
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 10: Ab? I mean that to me?

1022
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 15: You know, everybody was making a huh hooray about Tom

1023
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 15: Brady and his ability to get information and make this

1024
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 15: this Vegas team Super Bowl competitor. They bring in Pete Carroll,

1025
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 15: My goodness, everything they he got a hold of Pete

1026
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 15: Carroll's old quarterback. He rejuvenated Geno Smith's career. Where are

1027
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 15: we right now and how we're viewing the Las Vegas Raiders.

1028
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 5: Well, that information, I guess hasn't helped them with Son, right, Yeah,

1029
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: I mean I think there's some push and pull here, LeVar.

1030
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously you got a coaching staff that was older,

1031
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: that had a bunch of guys that were kind of

1032
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: matched together, right, so, you know, like Pete Carroll had

1033
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: not worked before with Chip Kelly, Pete Carroll had not

1034
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 5: worked before the d C. Patrick Graham either, you know.

1035
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 5: And you know, I think a lot of this was

1036
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 5: on the coaching side put together to like how competitive

1037
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 5: can we become right now? And you know, I think

1038
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 5: for the front office there's like a little bit of

1039
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 5: a different look at this where this was never going

1040
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 5: to be a one off season rebuild. It was always

1041
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 5: going to take longer than that. You know, like the

1042
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 5: roster they inherited, need to work in just about every

1043
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 5: single way, you know, and so like I think that's

1044
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 5: been where there's been some level of tension. I mean,

1045
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: even going back to like the trade deadline, you know,

1046
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 5: where where they had players that they could have flipped,

1047
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 5: you know for picks going forward, and part of not

1048
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: doing that was having a coaching staff that wanted to

1049
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 5: compete in here and now and so now you're sort

1050
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 5: of left in this in between. You fired your offensive

1051
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 5: coordinator and it's like, okay, like, well what's next.

1052
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 10: And I.

1053
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 5: Honestly look at it like this is still a multi

1054
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 5: off season rebuild. It's still going to take, you know,

1055
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: a couple of years to get this thing where they

1056
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 5: where they want to bring it, where it can be

1057
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 5: a real contender for a championship. And you know, I

1058
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 5: think because of that, there are gonna be some big

1059
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 5: picture questions that are going to be asked about all

1060
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: kinds of areas of that operation coming out of the

1061
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 5: twenty twenty five season. And I expect that Tom Brady's

1062
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 5: gonna be a big part of that, of course, you know,

1063
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: as he has been. But you know, thus far, I mean,

1064
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: it's just I guess what you're looking for is like

1065
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,439
Speaker 5: just the little pieces of progress, right like that gives

1066
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 5: you something to hang your hat on going into next year.

1067
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 5: And we haven't gotten a lot of those yet.

1068
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 14: Albert, Is there any coach that is maybe potentially coaching

1069
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 14: for his job down the stretch here in the last

1070
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 14: handful of games that might be a surprise to some people,

1071
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 14: maybe the seat more than some know.

1072
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I think we all know, like Mike McDaniel

1073
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 5: is going to be in that position right like, just

1074
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 5: because we don't know who the general manager is going

1075
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 5: to be, you know, going forward obviously, like you already

1076
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: have a couple of openings, you know, the Giants and

1077
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 5: the Titans eating coaches. I'm just trying to think of, like,

1078
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, the one that like people keep

1079
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 5: talking about and I think he's a fantastic coach, but

1080
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: like Todd Bowles in Tampa, like if they were to

1081
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 5: really collapse down the stretch, like I I wonder a

1082
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 5: little bit in that in that one, you know, because

1083
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 5: I do think like when you've talked about it for

1084
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 5: as many years and it's come up for as many

1085
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 5: years as it come up in as many years as

1086
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 5: it has, is that one where it's like all right,

1087
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 5: like you know, you know, we're building behind Baker Mayfield

1088
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 5: now and this is a natural spot to make a change,

1089
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 5: you know. I think the one that everybody's gonna bring up,

1090
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 5: the two that everybody are going to bring up, like

1091
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: if the seasons go the wrong way, are going to

1092
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 5: be Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Now, I don't think those teams

1093
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 5: would ever fire those guys, but like there's going to

1094
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: be that well, you know, next year would be Tomlin's

1095
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 5: twentieth year in Pittsburgh. Next year would be Harbot's nineteenth

1096
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 5: year in Baltimore. And so, you know, I think if

1097
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 5: if those teams disappoint down the stretch, you know, those

1098
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 5: conversations are certainly going to happen out in the public.

1099
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 5: You know, Privately, I think it would be more about

1100
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 5: like is this time you know what I mean, rather

1101
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 5: than being any sort of firing. So you know, we'll

1102
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 5: see what happens with those. And I'm just trying to think.

1103
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: I know there's one that I'm forgetting right now that

1104
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 5: I'm going to kick myself for forgetting to bring up

1105
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 5: with you guys.

1106
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 14: Mc Did you mentioned McDermott.

1107
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 7: I know we talked about earlier.

1108
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't get I don't get any sense like that

1109
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 5: internally they're having those discussions. However, you know, I think

1110
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 5: the the I may have I've said this a few

1111
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 5: different times. I may have said it to you guys before.

1112
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 5: I can't remember, but I I like like I sort

1113
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 5: of looked at like look at a little bit like

1114
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 5: Tony Dungee and Tampa if you remember back in the day,

1115
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 5: Tony Dungee did such an incredible job of of and

1116
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 5: you guys remember, and you guys, you guys remember how

1117
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 5: terrible they were before he got there. They were they

1118
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 5: were not just the laughing stock of the NFL. They

1119
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 5: were like one of the laughing stocks in all his sports.

1120
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 5: And Tony Dungee got there, and he completely changed that

1121
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: place and built you know, historic defense with you John

1122
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 5: Lynch and Derek Brooks and Warren Sapp and ron Da

1123
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: des Harper. Yeah, and then that and that and and

1124
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 5: and and he did such an awesome job. But they've

1125
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 5: been knocking on the door for so long, and because

1126
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 5: they had that defense, the urgency was amped up. And

1127
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 5: then if you remember, at the end of the twenty

1128
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: one at the end of the one season, they started

1129
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 5: flirting with Bill Parcells and almost got him and then

1130
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 5: wound up trading for John Gruden. And you do wonder

1131
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 5: if like for the same reason there was urgency in

1132
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 5: Tampa back then, because it was like, we're only going

1133
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 5: to have this defense for so long. If like eventually

1134
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 5: in Buffalo gets the point with Josh Allen now he's

1135
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 5: turning thirty in May where it's like, all right, like,

1136
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 5: you know, we really need to find a way to

1137
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 5: maximize what we have here to chase a championship. So

1138
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 5: that would be the sort of comparison. But I don't think, like,

1139
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 5: not to my knowledge anyway, any of those conversations have

1140
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 5: happened yet internally.

1141
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 14: All right, ab moment true, moment of true there, So

1142
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 14: now's the time has arrived. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter

1143
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 14: at the MMQB and the Pride of Ohio State. Do

1144
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 14: you feel like, at the end of Saturday's game in

1145
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 14: an arbor that the Ohio State Buck guys will have

1146
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 14: won that game by more than nine and a half points.

1147
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 5: It's down at nine and a half. Now hockey gets down.

1148
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 7: Oh, wasn't it twelve? I thought it was twelve.

1149
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 5: Four and a half. It was going to have at

1150
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: one point then I think, I don't know. I the

1151
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 5: last I heard it was ten and a half. So yeah,

1152
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: it's under ten now, yikes. I think they will. You know,

1153
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: I picked them a cover last week and they did

1154
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,359
Speaker 5: right without Carnell and without JJ.

1155
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1156
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: All right, So, like what the way I feel about

1157
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 5: the game right now is like a lot of people

1158
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 5: are gonna be focused on our receivers and whether they

1159
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 5: play or not. I really like our defense with all

1160
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 5: the first round picks on it, and that coordinator going

1161
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 5: up against the young quarterback that I think could wind

1162
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 5: up being the key to the whole thing. And so

1163
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: like I I, you know, like I just I don't

1164
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 5: know how Michigan's going to score on on Ohio. Ohio

1165
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 5: State hasn't really been scored on all year, you know,

1166
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: So like if Michigan the team to break through that,

1167
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 5: I don't think so. And again like this is I'm saying,

1168
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 5: I think I'm not like pounding my chest here because

1169
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 5: I've one of my less non doing that. I do

1170
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 5: respect the rivalry more than some people on the other

1171
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 5: side do.

1172
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 7: Wow, there you go.

1173
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: But but but but I would say, like that to

1174
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 5: me is the key is like if this Patricia defense

1175
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 5: is keeping them to ten or thirteen or fourteen or

1176
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 5: seventeen points, like I, I don't know how you keep

1177
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 5: the Ohio State offense under twenty.

1178
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 14: And also, you know, Matt Patrice has probably got a

1179
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 14: red ass going back to Michigan. He probably he's got

1180
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 14: a point to prove.

1181
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well there might be some things planned. I

1182
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 5: mean this will be interesting too. Yeah. I think that

1183
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 5: that group, that that Ohio State group, I will say this,

1184
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 5: I don't Ohio State defensive group loves Matt and I

1185
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 5: think they understand where where where this game is being

1186
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: played and what it might mean to Matt to be

1187
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 5: able to pull that off. And so yeah, I think

1188
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 5: there's that element of it too. I I don't know.

1189
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 5: I was so confident last year, and there was like

1190
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: because before that, like the three years before that, like

1191
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 5: Michigan had really good teams. I don't think they were

1192
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 5: the better team in every one of those three years,

1193
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 5: but like they had you know, however, it may have happened,

1194
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: got themselves up to our level for a temporary period

1195
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 5: of time and this one. But last year was not

1196
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: last year was last year? Last year I would say,

1197
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 5: changed Ryan Day in a way that I think is

1198
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: going to show up on set nice. Oh yeah, that

1199
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 5: part of the place. What do you guys think I would?

1200
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 7: I would lean in your direction.

1201
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 14: I just wanted to come down to the wire though,

1202
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 14: Like I wanted to come down to the wire if

1203
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 14: I had to bet on State. But I don't have

1204
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 14: a I don't have a I don't have an interest

1205
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 14: either way. I just want to see entertaining finish.

1206
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 5: I mean, look last week last year, I was in

1207
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 5: that parking lot. It was like five degrees. I flew

1208
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 5: in the morning of I was like shot out of

1209
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 5: a cannon, like you know, seven eight ers deep by

1210
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 5: like ten thirty eight coming off the plane. And I

1211
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 5: remember saying to my buddy killing I was. We were

1212
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 5: in the parking lot and I was like, I was like,

1213
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 5: I like, everybody come buy, buys, tickases games, wanting to

1214
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 5: see a classic. I'm like, f Dad, I don't want

1215
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 5: to see a classic. I want this. I want this

1216
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 5: to be the worst blowout they've ever seen. I want

1217
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 5: that stadium to be a party after the game. And again,

1218
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 5: like I've learned some lessons, I don't care if the

1219
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 5: wins by one or fifty.

1220
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 7: Just get it done well.

1221
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 14: AB It's going to be fun, and we appreciate you

1222
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 14: joining us. As always, we're up against it. But the

1223
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 14: great Albert Breer here with this on The Dan Patrick Show.