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Speaker 1: of something you don't stop. That's a very tropically right now, brother, family,

425
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: what's going on? Man, let me first and foremost say

426
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: that it's an honor. I'm actually fitched that I never

427
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: got a chance to come up to the drink Champ's

428
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: original set, and this ain't replacing it. Number one, This

429
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: ain't replacing it. Yeah, this ain't replacing it at all.

430
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: So I definitely have to come up there. But I

431
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: just want to understand that those that come before me

432
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: like the individual Nori, and that I have some d

433
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: and a of and I wouldn't be in the place

434
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: that I was or be able to do a lot

435
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: of the things that I did. I just want to

436
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: pay homage to this man, Nori and all the things.

437
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: You thank you a little. But but but but if

438
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: you turn your phono sideways a little like that, absolutely

439
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: you better. I gotta do that. I gotta salute you,

440
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: my brother, because um I watched the battle, and congratulations

441
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: my brother, congratulations, congratulations you thank you man. You appreciate

442
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: that basically stood there with the poker face. You didn't.

443
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: I love the fact that, um, I believe one of

444
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Nellie's boys said something to you, and I love the

445
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: fact that you like ignored it and stayed positive and

446
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: and and just and just sick with the poker faces.

447
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Is that something that you know that that you wanted

448
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: you did on purpose in terms of keeping the poker face.

449
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean to have a poker face. It was the Internet.

450
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: His Internet was kind of messing up, and I think

451
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: my right, um, my organic reaction was me trying to

452
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: see and make sure that it didn't you know, fuzz

453
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: up like it was doing consistently. So a lot of

454
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: those means that happened, and they was acting like I

455
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: had a poker face. I was literally trying to make

456
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: sure that I could see him and understand and hear

457
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: everything that he was saying. Yeah, because because you know,

458
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: this is a pure of celebration. I like to commend

459
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: every artist that participates in this, you know what I mean,

460
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: every artist that, um, you know, gets together and just

461
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, it should be

462
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: a celebration, you know what I'm saying. Um, the battle

463
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: thing we have we have lived. And so what was

464
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: the first what was it? What's a little drinking? We

465
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: gotta know what he's drinking? Was that I'm just disappointed

466
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: that everybody ain't drinking. And yeah, uncle, there's a whole

467
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: story behind this, Uncle nearest. I don't know if you

468
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: know now we we we we know Burns. We had

469
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: Kenny Burns on the show. Okay, yeah, man, I went

470
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: to the uncle nearest. Um, I went to the whole Tennessee.

471
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: We did the whole tour. Uh Man. It was It's

472
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: life changing when you understand that story. And I'm sure

473
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: that Kenny Burns was able to relate a little bit

474
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: of what was going on. But when you get a chance,

475
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: because we are all fans of the best alcoholic beverages

476
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: that this world has the offer, and we got a

477
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: lot of history and one of our states called Tennessee,

478
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: you have to go uncle near and if you really

479
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: want the full story, you go to Jack Daniels first,

480
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: and then yeah, yeah, so that you can see the

481
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: inconsistencies of some of the stories that they tell around

482
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: this motherfucker. Man, I got a bottle, right, and can

483
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: you get the uncle? I think I drink? What's your thinking?

484
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: What's your thinking when you was watching the battle? Jalen?

485
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: So first off, let me tell you what's crazy. Shout

486
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: to Luda. You know, I love you, brother, and thank you.

487
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate just watching like both of you guys on

488
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: your come up. And somebody that's a couple of years

489
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: older than both of you guys, Like I was telling Nori,

490
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I remember when he went from New York to Miami,

491
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: running into him in a couple of places down there,

492
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: and fortunate enough with Luda and be one of his

493
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: videos graciously move and shout the shaka. And now seeing

494
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: you with with with the tank top on, looking like

495
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: you living your best life, got a tan, you got

496
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: money in the bank. You know this makes me happy.

497
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: What I was thinking when I saw him and uh

498
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: Nellie's battle is I was lucky enough at the time

499
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: where both of them guys were at their apex to

500
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: be in one of their videos. Artist, that's true. Artist,

501
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm here for Nellie and move for Louda yeah man, thinking,

502
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: So I got love it and I'm great for the

503
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: both of them. Saluta. So one thing that you know,

504
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the fans acknowledged immediately was you wasn't playing. And what

505
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean by you wasn't playing enough to say Nellie

506
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 1: was playing. But what I mean by that is you

507
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: stuck to the suck to the script, played hits only

508
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: you did not want to play like the local or

509
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: the you know, the the ship that's just the ship

510
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: in Magic City. You didn't want to play. You know

511
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you stuck to the was was

512
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: that a strategy? Well? You know, I think it's it's

513
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: just like playing cards, man, It's like playing spades. It's

514
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: like poker or whatever you want. Yeah, No, it was

515
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: more of a I have so humbly speaking, I had

516
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: so many songs. I even had so many songs. Obviously

517
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't able to play. But you kind of throw

518
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: your first card out there and you see what, you

519
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: know what what the next car comes, and then you

520
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: react from there. So it was kind of just going

521
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: as it went along. I tried to figure out how

522
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: I was going to compete, and I know both myself

523
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: and Nellie are just, you know, competitors. I don't know

524
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: if they were. They had this photo circulating around the

525
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: net from when we did Rock and Jock Football like

526
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: years ago together, and you know, it's just like, I

527
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: know how competitive he is, and that's what made it

528
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: so special, just understanding how competitively were. But did your

529
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: catalog did you sorry, but did your catalog even surprise

530
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: you as you were getting ready for this? Man, Listen,

531
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't say my catalog surprised me, but

532
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: I can honestly say that, just like everyone else that

533
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: was watching, it's great to hear all of the versatility

534
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: and the collection of catalog all within a certain time frame,

535
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: because I don't think I've ever sat with my music

536
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: and listened to it in that type of you know,

537
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: in that type of list in order just back over

538
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 1: a very small amount of time. So I was just

539
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: as much of a fan, humbly speaking, as everybody else

540
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: was listening to both of our catalogs, because um, honestly,

541
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: right you you have three careers, right, Luda, I'm talking mom.

542
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: I remember me going to a radio station and me

543
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: right me written Chris Love. But then then all of

544
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: a sudden, I never you never told me you wrapped,

545
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I see you just you

546
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: just know you're dinner wrapper. Now you had this luxrious

547
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: career in movies, right, what is still your first love? Like,

548
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: let me clarify something for you, just so that you know.

549
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously you may not have known this,

550
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: but I've been rapping since I was nine. When I

551
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: worked at that radio station in Atlanta, Georgia, it was

552
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: all a play and a strategic plan and obviously worked

553
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: out from me going up there to try and get

554
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: people to listen to my music because I was like,

555
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: it's artists and producers that come up here all the time.

556
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: So when you got introduced to me, of course I

557
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: had to put on the face and I was acting

558
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: as though I wanted to be a DJ, but what

559
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: I was really doing was was rapping to answer your question.

560
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: My first love is and will always be music, always,

561
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: because there's nothing that touches my soul more than music.

562
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you like this, bro, this is

563
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: this is serious business. I love the Wayne the Rock Johnson,

564
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I love Vin Diesel. I know niggas that's making Hunted's

565
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: and millions of dollars movies. There's no there's no person

566
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: on earth that doesn't envy the freedom that us artists have.

567
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is part of a movie, nigga.

568
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: You gotta you only playing one part is unless you

569
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: the producer, the director, the motherfucking like everything, you're a

570
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: part of one piece of the puzzle. When you an artist,

571
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: you you it's a blank piece of it's a blank page,

572
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: just a blank canvas. You paint what you want on

573
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: that motherfucker. You have complete control and freedom. There's no

574
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: other job in this world that allows you to do that,

575
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: except for like a paint or some ship. Hold hold on,

576
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Can I piggy back off of my brother? Yeah, that's

577
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: that's one of them. That's one of the things about

578
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: being an athlete that I always envied about artists because

579
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: we are required to be role models per se by

580
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: society and tests. Correct, That's what I'm saying, Like we're

581
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: required like we get judged if we didn't graduate from

582
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: high school or don't go to college. We get judged

583
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: if like we get in trouble or we have a

584
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: hustling background, or if we drink or smoke. It's it's

585
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: something like, oh my god, it makes you a bad person.

586
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: That wasnies eyes always appreciate the freedom of an artist.

587
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: Athletes live in l A and with with with the

588
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: with the state is actually legal, and in Colorado was legal,

589
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: and you know places like that Boston even and you

590
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: think they're gonna still chest people. It's just the hypocrisy

591
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: how people deal with we and medicinal is like how

592
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: the n c A used to deal with violations like

593
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: it used to be like a big thing, like oh

594
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: my god, such and such had the nerve to take

595
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: some money for a plane ticket. Now people know how

596
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: much money is in the game like they should be

597
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: getting paid and it's the exact same thing over here,

598
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: and it doesn't become a big deal because everybody know

599
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: that that that just kind of how the game go right, Yo.

600
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: And you know, to add to that. As an artist,

601
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: and I'm sure nor can attest to this, I think

602
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: we live long and I think that the reason that

603
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: we are able even with all of our internal issues

604
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: and we have problems like everybody else, but the equivalent

605
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: of going and sitting with a damn you know, a

606
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: therapist or something like that, nigga, when we do shows,

607
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what we talk about in our music,

608
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: it's therapy because we have thousands of people literally like

609
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: saying the same things that we're saying, and we know

610
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: that they're feeling our music and feeling what's coming from

611
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: our heart. So that's what balances us out in terms

612
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: of all and and damn all the all the you know,

613
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: the problems that we have. It just completely gets unleashed

614
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: when we do these live shows and we give it,

615
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: we give it up and it doesn't stay within And

616
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: that helps with that being said, Luda Um, you know,

617
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: with this pandemic going on, you think it's a it's

618
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: a threat to us because you know, leaving sports is

619
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: saying you know that they're thinking about continuing, but they're

620
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: thinking about continuing or doing certain sports with just no

621
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: fans there. What happens if Luda actually has to do

622
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: a tour with no fans? Does that take away everything

623
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: from you? Or or what does that put you? And? Absolutely, man,

624
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: it's never It would never be the same if I

625
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: did a damn concert or a show with no fans.

626
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: Many based on what you just said, just on what

627
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: you just said about the energy and and the feedback

628
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: from the audience, that that's gonna take all the way. Absolutely,

629
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: they're the breath. Man, it's a reciprocation. That's what's going on.

630
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: You're feeding off the energy of the crowd. I can't

631
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: necessarily speak for everybody, but individuals like myself, like Buster,

632
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's who really give everything that they got on

633
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: that stage, so that anyone that paid a certain amount

634
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: of money is knowing that they left that motherfucker with

635
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: their money's work and then something, There's no way it

636
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: will be the same crowd is not there? Wow, Same

637
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: same question to you, Jenalen, how would you feel if

638
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: um sports continues and and and it's with the with

639
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: the no fan rule. So wow, I'm glad I got

640
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a chance to hear Louter say that, and somebody that's

641
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: gone to so many shows, he made me look at

642
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: it in a different light, because the difference is sporting

643
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: events can also be television events concerts. You want to

644
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: entertain the people that are present. And so we can

645
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: still do a game like UFC is still doing fights

646
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: and like they can fake the crowd noise and they

647
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: can do all of that stuff and make it look

648
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: like a television event and the players can still play

649
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: the game. But like Luda said, without the fans in

650
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: the stands and you being able to hear what they

651
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: say and hear what the coaches saying, here what the

652
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: rest say, it's gonna it's not gonna be the same

653
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: without the fans. Like you're gonna see some bizarre stuff happening,

654
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: some crazy upsets and and like learning things that you

655
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: didn't really know about the game, which maybe good. Without

656
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: the fans, the fan it's a heartbeat. I agree, nigga.

657
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: The pandemonium is our peace. Yeah, organized confusion. Did you

658
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: watch the other battles prior to getting into the battle man.

659
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: I watched every single one of them. I was a

660
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: fan from day one for numerous reasons. So that's part

661
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: of the reason I'm so glad I got a chance

662
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: to do it. I love that ship man, right, um

663
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: uh okay, So now they'll be doing what would y'all

664
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: think they'll be doing? Rematches? Do I think they'll be doing?

665
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: Don't or should? People like like who would you wanna?

666
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: Would you battle somebody else? Now after that experience, Um,

667
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought that far ahead, bro, because I'm

668
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: like probably the fifth battle that happened on this on

669
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: this platform, what I'm saying, like it's all new. So yeah,

670
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: you know it's weird because I think there is something

671
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: to say for you going and releasing and like letting

672
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: people hear your records, and then if you go again,

673
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: it may not have the same and sat like some

674
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: of those records. I think that's that's part of the

675
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: reason that it is so dope to do it. So,

676
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, I would have to that that opportunity would

677
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: have to present itself for me to really give it

678
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: an honest, you know consideration, Like there's people who who

679
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: just known me from drink chaps for some reason. They

680
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about my music career. They don't know nothing.

681
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: Have you ever face that loot up where you let

682
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: me think I got like four names in these streets.

683
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 1: You got Ludicrous, you got, you got tads from Fast

684
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: and Furious, you got there's the guy that was on

685
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: the song with Justin bieber Uh. I got so many

686
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: goddamn names, right, it's ridiculous. But that's a blessing, though, Nori.

687
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: That means you made him a fucking statement and you

688
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: impacted the world majorly on more than one thing. Don't

689
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: take take that. And also what that is, Nori and Luda,

690
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: that shows that you event you o g and reinvented yourself.

691
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: You're behind all the dude, I gotta ask you the

692
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: same question, because you got like four of them too.

693
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: So I'm so fortunate that like my mother created a

694
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: name that's now coming, like my god, my my biological

695
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: father name was James. My uncle Leonard took her to

696
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: the hospital. She can bind those names and made Jalen.

697
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: And now it's everywhere like I'm doing the draft, I'm

698
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: watching the NFL like it's it's a common name now

699
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: and it's crazy. Yeah, correct, Right, I'm like just front

700
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: from the West side of Detroit. But what I want

701
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 1: to tell you guys, the reason why you can have

702
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: so many different names and likenesses and stuff is because

703
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: all of the O G s that have stand power

704
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: reinvent themselves, Like how many names have Jay had? How

705
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: many names have puff Head? Because you're around so long,

706
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: they've become tags, they become handles, almost like when you

707
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: had a beeper. Every come like you you're cold, and

708
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: then you move on from it when the new device comes.

709
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: That's what y'all been able to do. Okay, well, I'm

710
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: gonna give you all both questions. As a fan, the

711
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: other day, DMX came over. We're chilling. I have no

712
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: idea what's happening. Swiss actually calls DMN. Oh, I gotta,

713
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you something. Swiss calls DMM. In true

714
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: DMX fashion, he picks up. You know, we're playing jingle.

715
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I've never played jingle before, but DMX, what is it?

716
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Whatever that ship is? Go whatever that I'm playing that?

717
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: So you know x x x X is a dorm

718
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: room guy, Like, that's a dorm room ship, right, So

719
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I said, I'm doing it. Swiss calls him three minutes

720
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: before this. Swiss says, yo, Eminem wants the battle. He

721
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: says why what? I tell him I'm down, and then

722
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: he goes through them but then Excess, but I really

723
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: want Jack right, Swiss said, he's not coming outside, Excess.

724
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't have to come out, so I can play

725
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: it from the room. Right. I'm not sure if X

726
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: understood the terminology is like coming you all laugh? What

727
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: do you guys stick like? I'm sure both of us.

728
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm sureing both of you guys. You know everyone has

729
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: to love DMX like DMX is just one of those

730
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: artists we just all love. But Jalen, I gotta start

731
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: with you because you from Detroit, So you okay? You

732
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: know I know that Eminem blood is running through you

733
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: as well. When you heard about this battle? What did

734
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: you think? What you like? So? I did um something

735
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: with the last dance with Swiss Sunday night, and I'm

736
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: glad I went both of you guys, because he gave

737
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 1: me a few battles that I want to ask you

738
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: guys opinions. Let's first off, when somebody calls out somebody else,

739
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: usually they beef up, not down. Fair. They always call

740
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: out somebody that they definitely know that people may see

741
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: as their equal or better. But right, but when I

742
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: was with Swiss, he said d MX and bust the rhymes.

743
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: M hm, that's what he said. He didn't say, Eminem,

744
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about that? Because I think, well,

745
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: first off, DMX has so many great records give at

746
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: the time he will sleep all like you like Luda

747
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: in this like when you start like I was watching

748
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: the Nellie thing with Little I was like, I got

749
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: a lot of number one records and that's somebody. When

750
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: I think about DMX and both y'all was on death Jam.

751
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: So what do you think about all of us? Right? Yeah,

752
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: all of y'all? Right, yeah's Eminem M even j ME, Luda,

753
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: j um J and d M MAX. But he's affiliated

754
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: through Paul being the president of the Chamom. That's true too.

755
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: Is he still a president? He's like the president no more.

756
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: I always think they're different way classes okaya, classes, okay,

757
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: what what how about you? Luda man? You know what's

758
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: crazy man, First and foremost is just what you said

759
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: about DMX man. That's actually one of my guys man.

760
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: He I love DMX spirit. I love he's he's to me,

761
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: to me, he's anointed. It's like when he comes around,

762
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: I know that around too, Like I'm so sorry to

763
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: say that, Like, but Jesus comes with him, bro like

764
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: and when you do later, I got a DMX story

765
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: to go ahead. It doesn't get much really, It doesn't

766
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: get much really in terms of just pure don't like

767
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: he says exactly what the funk he means? You could

768
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: just like he's of this day. Just wanted the realist.

769
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean I could. I'm trying to, but you know

770
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: I would have I would have to hear more names

771
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: in order from me. When you said Eminem verse d

772
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: m X and when you said, I mean jay Z

773
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: verse d M MAX. I like those. I don't know

774
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: if I love them. I want to hear more names

775
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 1: so that I could feel like okay to me personally.

776
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think there might be a better

777
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: matchup of just personalities or you know, trying to match

778
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: up lyrics or how certain people's tones are and what

779
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: they you know, Like, that's That's what I'm trying to do.

780
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't really see those as being phenomenal battles, but

781
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. And that's what I love so

782
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: much about these verses is that some people they you know,

783
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: you it starts really making you think, It really really

784
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: provokes a lot of thought. But my initial reaction to

785
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: both of those I don't I don't like them. DMX said,

786
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: he said, jay Z here with us. Yeah, And the

787
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: thing is is that it's unfinished business in his mind.

788
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: It's a continuation of their already ongoing battling. Yeah, but

789
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: we all got to relax on that one. It's not.

790
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but that's why it's to him. That's

791
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: that's it's a given like that, it's with his mind.

792
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: He's still thinking it's unfinished business. Got you. Yeah, you

793
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: know what's you know what's crazy is that there are

794
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: certain artists that they can't have twenty records. These think's

795
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: gotta have like forty. Let's just be honest. I've got

796
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: to have the thirty. I gotta have the forty. And

797
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: it's only like about artists who can actually do that. Ship.

798
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: Let's let's be real, Like let's just say, if Drake

799
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: were to ever do a battle, if jay Z is

800
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: where to do a battle, twenty is like nothing to

801
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: these motherfucker's and Puff as well, Dray and Puff as

802
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: well for real, exactly, Dre Puff. Think about it, man,

803
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: This is this is some real big talk. We're talking

804
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: some real ship. So when you're talking about what you

805
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: just you just said, what I ever do it again?

806
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: The fact that there may not be rematches and all

807
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: this ship. You gotta put the best matches possible together

808
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: the first fucking time so that you don't have any

809
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: resentments of regret. And why did they put these two

810
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: motherfuckers together? Didn't even make sense. I love you know

811
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: what I loved about um you and Nellie on both

812
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: um when y'all got back into fan mode, like um,

813
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: when you saluted Naas for you know, being on that

814
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: record when Nellie saluted you know, talked about his days

815
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: in New York because I remember where he got the

816
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: Air Force once from, you know what I mean, Like

817
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: he was hanging out without some penalty records. You know what, guys,

818
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you guys don't forget like that,

819
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: like you know the essence of I don't want to

820
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: say the essence of hip hop, but the essence of

821
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: how things started, and you guys pay that homage. What

822
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: in particular that one moment when you spoke about the

823
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: Nas record and when you spoke about like, you know

824
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: how he was honored to be on the record. How

825
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: did you even get that called? How did that even

826
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 1: like come about? Man? Nas has has been going on

827
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: records saying before that I was one of his favorite

828
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: rappers man, and I'm still to this day, it's a

829
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: real for me to for me to hear that, and

830
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: it was the biggest compliment in the world. And I

831
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: got that call to get on that record, and immediately

832
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I was like, where that depth jam or Nas himself?

833
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: Nasa was made the call yea, yeah, yeah for sure.

834
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: Nonnas in shocking My manager have been cooled for a

835
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: minute as well because Shaka used to work at the

836
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: label with Naas, so it was always family. And then

837
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: me and him a virgo, so our personalities like off camera,

838
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: so I think him a virgo to Yeah, that that

839
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: record that I was so glad I was able to

840
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: play that record because that ship right there made so

841
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: much impact from me in terms of the respect that

842
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: I got holding my own with two hip hop heavyweights

843
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: that everybody else respected. And uh, from there on out,

844
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: it was like Okay, Luda is a down He's down South,

845
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: real respected lyric deep lyricism. All that part right there

846
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: is the part that people never know like people did,

847
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: like you understand and like sometimes you you feel like

848
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: when you get to a certain level that you know

849
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: what it's like fucking I'm just doing me. When the

850
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: fact that you can we can as all humbling moments,

851
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We can still humble ourselves

852
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: and say what I got a chance to be on

853
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: that that is that is what makes people drink motherfucker phenomenons.

854
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: You ain't never lied man, ever, ever, ever. That ship

855
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: is crazy, crazy crazy, and I just love that memory,

856
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: having those memories coming to New York. Man, I have

857
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: a funny as a tunnel story to tell whenever we're

858
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: ready to. But I'll try and make it to and

859
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: we're gonn get to your diary. Uh uh so. But

860
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: but Jalen, you said you want a story with DMX,

861
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: you gotta story. Well, yeah, a couple of things. One

862
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: like and watching Luda and Nellie battle. I just wanted

863
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: to salute the Midwest and Atlanta and in the South,

864
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: just watching how you know, we started to get acknowledged

865
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: in the game of hip hop like that took a

866
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 1: long time. And say that again, Jane, and I'm sorry

867
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: the respect for the Mids the South in hip hop,

868
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: that took a long time. But somebody was born in

869
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: seventy three. Like I know about the Cold Crush and

870
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: the Funky four plus one and remember run DMC in

871
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: the message, and I like, I know about all of that,

872
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: and I wondered when it was gonna ever happen. Being

873
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: from Detroite like Motown, we celebrate all music, all genres rock.

874
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: You know, Barry Gordy had Motown like like that type

875
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: of thing. So for it to happen when rap was dope.

876
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: My DMX story is playing for the Bulls family with

877
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: the Locks. Shout to Jada Styles and Chic. They were

878
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: in town. They were about to do a show. I

879
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: don't I think it was House of Blues. We was

880
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: at the spot doing with Nori Do on his show.

881
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: All of the time they was about to go perform.

882
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: We got the cars outside. Everybody was looking for X.

883
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: X was gonna do what ex dude was following behind

884
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: one another. X wasn't ready when it was time for

885
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: the show to start, and all I know, one of

886
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: my favorite moments Luda and Noria hip Hop. I'm standing

887
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: on the stage doing ex ad lived up Wow, and

888
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: I knew every record and didn't mess up once he came.

889
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I straight gave him the mic. I ain't mess up once.

890
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: That's dope. That's dope. That's a memory you don't get.

891
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: That's not too many people that get to do it.

892
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: Some of their favorite rappers lives life period. So and

893
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: also Luda, if you know my uh nor, I want

894
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: to ask Luda questions. So you followed in expost Stepps

895
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: being a dope MC creating bars on your on your records.

896
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: But also you were a great actor and you've been

897
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: in like some great you know films, So what about

898
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: like that transition? And the transition started when John Singleton

899
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: may you rest in power Man? He asked me to

900
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: be again too fast, too furious, and I had to

901
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: try out for it. But I was on tour with

902
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Eminem at the time, and when I and it was

903
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: like that they needed an asap, so I was backstage.

904
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: You just can't hold on. You heard that the haymaker.

905
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm on tour with Eminem and John Singleton calls me,

906
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: that's not the regular ship hold on, don't wait that

907
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: I was what. I was so busy that I had

908
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 1: to I had to record myself on tape backstage twenty

909
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: minutes before I went on stage, and I remember reading

910
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: the lines and everything, and then the next day I

911
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: got the call and I had the part. Now literally

912
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: I know until later he was like, I think John

913
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: Rule was the person he wanted for the for the

914
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: role with y'all Rule. I guess it was either asking

915
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: for too much money or doing something. And he was like,

916
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: all right, well I'm gonna go to Luda. So I

917
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: always say thank job for turning that thing, doing whatever

918
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: he did to mess up the opportunity, because I don't think,

919
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: y'all wow, that's take a shot with yer Rule. Take

920
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: a shot with y'all Rule. He's also you take a

921
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: shot a look to past five, six, seven, eight, nine,

922
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: and hopefully ten and eleven wood ship shout the Rosenberg.

923
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you there was a discripacy at

924
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: one time about fast and Furious. I believe Tyree's and

925
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: Rock was going at it. What was that thing about?

926
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: And and what was it? Because the Rock did a

927
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: spinoff of that, and when he did a spin off,

928
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: then y'all guys couldn't continue filming Fast. Yeah. I think

929
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: it was there was a big misconception of things going on.

930
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: And I think that maybe some some some people got

931
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: some premature information. But what you need to understand they

932
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: were both or the Universal brother So it's up to

933
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 1: Universal to green light certain things because they're the ones

934
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: that's paying hundreds of millions of dollars in order to

935
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: shoot these movies. How much? How much? Hundreds of millions,

936
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: So don't get int hundreds of thousands of millions. Yeah,

937
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: the average budget for a Fast movie is like two

938
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: hundred million, bros. And uh so, so what whatever was

939
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: going on between them two? You know, I feel like

940
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: they may have felt as if it was that they

941
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: had certain powers on their own, but the real is,

942
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: the realist realization of it was that Universal is calling

943
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: the shots because they have one that's cutting the checks.

944
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 1: So I just think it was a misconception. Man. Wow,

945
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: hold on, I got I want to ask you to something.

946
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: This is going back talking about the straight rhyming and

947
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: m seeing and you're talking about being respected as a

948
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: lyrical MC. Have you ever felt me I'm talking as

949
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: a DJ from Miami early nineties. We was was looking

950
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: for lyricism coming out of Miami and out of the

951
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: South were known for based music and also which we

952
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: it's just a part of our culture. Did you ever

953
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: feel like we don't get respected in the South for

954
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: lyricism or we ourselves of it. Absolutely what you're saying,

955
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: I said, here we go listen the case you don't

956
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: know this guy when y'all go look up the South,

957
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: he is there like this. He loves the South, and

958
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: I respect that. I respect. I knew he's going to

959
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: ask you, this guy. Yeah, it took a long time

960
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: for us to get that respect. Man, as there's history

961
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: and it's there's a whole there's a whole list of

962
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: history there because the base music obviously I was in

963
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: Miami and you know, and then yeah, for sure absolutely

964
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: based money ye based music in Atlanta and in Miami

965
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: and all throughout Florida, Georgia. And then it took for

966
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, outcasts kind of on a popular level to

967
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: really break everyone's stereotype of what could be possible coming

968
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: from the South. And then from there on out, you know, um,

969
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: humbly speaking individuals like myself, and we just kept we

970
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: kept hammering away man. The next thing, you know, we

971
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: got the respect that we needed. You all want to say,

972
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: you know what I want to say, because a lot

973
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: of y'all think that from the South, that people in

974
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: New York didn't respect your lyrical content, didn't respect you.

975
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: But the thing is, had we had twitterback then, y'all

976
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: would have knew how much we respected y'all. Y'all would

977
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: have knew how But don't forget. We would travel to

978
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: New York too, though, brother, but sometimes you would see

979
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: the lack of the respect of time. But you know,

980
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: you all due respect, right. You ever heard somebody that says,

981
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, I traveled to London and you know absolutely,

982
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: and then they just basically the whole London off of

983
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: your one time experience. You can't that's not the real nothing,

984
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we respect the mid rest.

985
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: We it was certain acts, but we we had no

986
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: way of telling you we respected you guys. You know

987
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because because you guys wouldn't go to

988
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: the venues, You guys go to the venues that's hot.

989
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: You understand. You guys would want to go to of

990
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: the tunnel. You guys would want to go to. You know,

991
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: there's certain things as opposed to the lyricist loud, but

992
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: I also think regionally accent slang. People didn't think it

993
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: was lyrical, but like, for example, like I think trick

994
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: Daddy is a lyrical as motherfucker, you know, like Scarface

995
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: is one of the best to ever do it. For instance.

996
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't know personal, but if you look at all

997
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: my features in my beginning of the career, it was

998
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: with David Banner, juvenile. We're talking about you travel to

999
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: the South, so I understood. So so when people said

1000
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: that New York don't respect it, I was always an example, like,

1001
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: for real, it's not from New York. Motherfucker's not from

1002
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: New York. And I put I don't want to say,

1003
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: put him under my wing. But you know, I don't

1004
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: know what to say. Now, Well, you helped validate them.

1005
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. So cannot go ahead,

1006
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: go ahead, you know, because what I'm trying to say

1007
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: is New York we respected y'all. It's just that we

1008
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity or the connections to actually tell y'all, like,

1009
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, we love the outcast just as much as

1010
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: y'all we love you g K just as much as y'all.

1011
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: We love scar Face just as much as y'all. You

1012
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just that we didn't have that,

1013
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We didn't have the means

1014
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: to say, yo, if scar Face dropped the record to

1015
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: tweet back like nigga, this is crazy, nigga, Like, we

1016
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: didn't have that, you know what I'm saying, to actually

1017
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: identify with that. So that's why the Internet and this

1018
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: social media is actually I'm glad he's had scar Face.

1019
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm glad he's had face. His car

1020
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: face was before outcast Man. He did so much of them,

1021
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: so so so, so how about this. This is great

1022
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: that we have in this I love this. Artists, legendary

1023
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: m c s. Both of you guys dropped bars, A

1024
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: great actor has been in multiple movies. And so Nora,

1025
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: you from the East, Luda, you from the South, let

1026
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: me be in the referee from the Midwest. Okay, because

1027
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: I saw Coach had a stranglehold on the game. I

1028
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: talked about it earlier even through the eighties, l rock him,

1029
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: everybody on on on. But then the South had their

1030
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: turn and took a stranglehold of the game, like um

1031
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: you g K yeah, old boys. J Prince was an

1032
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: independent artist, masterpiece, all m j G. Masterp, young money,

1033
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: I mean, not my cash money. All of them came

1034
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: in like the nineties, and once the soft got it.

1035
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't that New York didn't appreciate it. It was like, damn,

1036
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: they took it from us. That's what happened. Not like

1037
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: for real, I'm that's what that's what happened. It was

1038
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: like they got hot real fast and all of a sudden, Yo,

1039
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: it ain't New York became possessive of the game. That

1040
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: that's that's like I my family lives in Georgia, Luda, No,

1041
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: he can't take five steps in Georgia when I run

1042
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: it to somebody from Detroita. Straight, that's a straight fact.

1043
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We migrated down there. You

1044
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: all know why. And Miami. I was living there when

1045
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: y'all migrated there from New York. Get Pulp was living

1046
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: down there, Joe was living down there. Kali came up.

1047
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 1: You had number one records. I've seen y'all at the spot,

1048
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Joe snow Crab, I had a spot at the Portofino.

1049
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: I was there. I'm trying to tell you I was

1050
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: in there with me to know big remember what I'm

1051
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: saying that taking like for real, So New York did

1052
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: appreciate Atlanta in the South. It wasn't like they were

1053
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: like denying their talent. It was just like, damn, they

1054
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: came with so many artists and so much heat and

1055
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: so much style, and like it was just like overwhelming

1056
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: for the whole game. And that that's how they just

1057
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: swung it to the South and and kept a strangle

1058
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: hold on it. You guys can argue about for how

1059
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: long I feel like they still got it and which

1060
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: had already happened with the West Coast. To mind, you,

1061
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't mind. I just feel like I feel like

1062
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: that's what hip hop is. Hip hop everybody deserves the turn,

1063
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: from the Midwest to the South, to the East Coast,

1064
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: to to even overseas. Canada's let's not to get Canada.

1065
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: Canada's out here. They're not a part of the United

1066
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: States at all, and they all here. Now we've got

1067
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: the number one album. Let's back up Torrey Lanes. Let's

1068
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: pick up to h Drake, Let's pick up to you know,

1069
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: Cardonal Offisher, who Belly, let's pick up to all these

1070
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: guys like hip hop deserves Era everywhere, you know, because

1071
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: I know this is crazy, this is this is gonna

1072
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: sound crazy, It's gonna sound retarded. When I was coming

1073
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 1: up right, I thought I was the only gangster, I

1074
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: swear to guard. I didn't think there was another gangster

1075
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: down the block. Like so when I used I'm so

1076
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: sorry to say this, but when I used to shoot

1077
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: at people, I thought that was it. I never thought

1078
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: people would shoot at me back, You're the only shoot

1079
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: you shooting at me. I didn't other people other places

1080
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: who think they're just as real as me, and I

1081
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: didn't realize that. And that's what music is going through

1082
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: right now. The thing is everybody deserves they turn everybody

1083
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: deserves from from Canada to listen, I feel like Vancouver

1084
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,959
Speaker 1: in Canada is about to have a moment. I feel

1085
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: like Augusta, Georgia not just a t L. I feel

1086
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a whole other movement around in

1087
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: a different part of Georgia that's gonna come and they're

1088
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna and that's gonna be the South of Atlanta's competition.

1089
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like everybody deserves it because everybody has

1090
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: the same struggle. We have the same story and it's

1091
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: the same like, you know, uh, the same passion, the

1092
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 1: same passion, you know what I'm saying. And the thing

1093
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: about it is I love it more now. Not not

1094
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: hip hop in general. What I'm saying is these young

1095
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: brothers actually don't need a record label at all. They

1096
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: can actually go right to the internet. And just what

1097
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: do you think about that? Luda? Yeah, you're right, man,

1098
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 1: Like it's different when you know, we had a demo table,

1099
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: were trying to sell albums out the trunk of our

1100
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: car and ship. Now it's like everybody asked for advice.

1101
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, you create your own fan base. It's it's

1102
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: a lot easier to do that right now. And don't

1103
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: tell me your music is hot. You gotta let me.

1104
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: You gotta. You have to create a fan base in

1105
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: order for me to believe that your music. It's that simple.

1106
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: So you got to create a movement. Man, if you

1107
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: can't sell to the nigga next door, you have to

1108
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: think you're gonna sell me. I gotta ask you, guys

1109
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: both the questions because like a charter high school, I

1110
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: have so many people that want to be like you, guys,

1111
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: and they want to be basketball players and athletes as well.

1112
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: And I'll start with you Nori first. Can you guys

1113
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: please let the world know? And watching the Last Dance

1114
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: with Michael Jordan right now, some of the things you

1115
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: sacrifice and the time and energy that goes into your craft,

1116
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: like if you're writing rhymes, if you're thinking of thinking

1117
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: through beats, if you're thinking like like, please let the

1118
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 1: world know. Like you don't just wake up in the

1119
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: morning and press out a record and all of a

1120
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: sudden you number one in the country. Well, I'd love

1121
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: to answer this question. A lot of people don't know.

1122
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: My first album came out of Nights NIGHTTI seven. It's

1123
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: called The War Report, and everyone calls it a classic. Now,

1124
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: everyone says it deserves five mics. Now everyone says how

1125
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: illed it was. Now everyone, But back then, I'm just

1126
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: as an underground artist. I couldn't connect to the people.

1127
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand it was a classic. So I was

1128
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: still on the block. I was still doing the same

1129
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: exact thing. It wasn't until I've seen a brother named

1130
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: I can really and I certainly said the story before,

1131
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: but I can only had a record call put it

1132
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: in your mouth. I had a record call L A

1133
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: L A and two and why they do not mix?

1134
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: I rely sort of. I can only saw it was

1135
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: in me and I can only brub me on tour

1136
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: because I had this album that people are saying, yeah, great,

1137
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: the album that people are saying as a classic, but

1138
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see the residuals. I didn't see what came

1139
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: from that. So I had to actually go star all over.

1140
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is when people want to, like,

1141
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, really be in this music industry and they

1142
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: you know, they can't. They can't separate the streets from

1143
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: from what it is. Not only did I stopped selling,

1144
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, the things that I was selling prior to

1145
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: that for for this, but I had a classic album

1146
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: that people call a classic album now and I was

1147
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: still in the streets. So just take it all the way.

1148
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: And it was one brother who showed me the world,

1149
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: and it was Acnelly. I can literally said, Yo, look

1150
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: bro l A, L A and till on because you

1151
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: gotta remember I come, like I said, next to any seven.

1152
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 1: If you didn't have video music box and um, if

1153
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: you didn't have be like three dollars of video. You know,

1154
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 1: if you didn't have the video, you know, and that

1155
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 1: that's that's um. The I forget that with that is

1156
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: called yea the juke box. If we didn't have that,

1157
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: you didn't know how it looked, you know what I'm saying.

1158
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,759
Speaker 1: So I wasn't even getting shows with a quote unquote

1159
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: classic album. It wasn't until in r E, you know

1160
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: what i mean. When I went out there and I

1161
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: did a song called I'm Leaving on the Firm album,

1162
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: and again I've had to fly out to l A.

1163
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: And you know, nasing them is the hottest in the world.

1164
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're gonna put me on their group

1165
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 1: album called the Firm and I'm leaving a part of

1166
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: the group. And I stood there and I just did it,

1167
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: and it was a record that card I'm Leaving. That's

1168
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: what set off my whole solo career. But for that

1169
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,759
Speaker 1: year and a half up to there, I really stopped

1170
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: doing everything I did. It hated my life and my

1171
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: craft one million today, you know what I'm saying. And

1172
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: the ship worked out. I mean, there's a lot of

1173
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: people who probably didn't, but that's that's a very much sacrifice.

1174
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 1: You can't have one ft in in this area and

1175
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: one foot in over there. If you're gonna really be

1176
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: serious about this, you have to have two feet in

1177
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: your eyes, your eyebrows. You see how for the weekend

1178
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,560
Speaker 1: I got thick eyebrows, So you gotta have all that.

1179
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, And that's real. So Luda,

1180
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna asking you want to ask the st question,

1181
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: Luda Jayla? Yeah, for real, Luda, what about you and

1182
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 1: your come up, especially being from the South. You're talking

1183
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 1: about the command. I was so intrigued by Norri's answer,

1184
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: I forgot what the hell of the original damn question?

1185
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you it was crazy. So it's like

1186
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: you have bars. You've done a great job of continuing

1187
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: to not only sell records but become like an artist

1188
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: that's mainstream. But what ends up happening. There's so many

1189
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: people want to be like you. They don't know the

1190
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: sacrifices that you made. God, what it takes for you

1191
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: to make a record in the time, the sacrifices and

1192
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 1: like the notes that you take and the beats that

1193
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: you listen to, Like, please give a snapshot of like

1194
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: the energy that takes to be a professional in your craft. Yeah,

1195
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: sacrifice is definitely my middle name. Man, if I wouldn't

1196
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: be here if it wasn't a sacrifice. I just posted

1197
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: on my Instagram and you can go look at it

1198
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: like all the people that's watching at ludicrous. I still

1199
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 1: have my nine accurate legend, bro. I'll never get rid

1200
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: of that gold. The gold Accurate at a time when

1201
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: that was my tour bus man, you know, when I

1202
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: was working at the radio station in order to pay

1203
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: for studio time, in order to pay for mixing and

1204
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,719
Speaker 1: master and I would wear pretty much the same clothes

1205
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: every day, or the promotional T shirts that I got

1206
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: for free working at the radio station. That's what I

1207
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: would wear because I'd be saving all my money to

1208
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: put myself in the studio. I wasn't such a materialistic person,

1209
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: so everything. If you want to be successful, you gotta

1210
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: learn how to sacrifice one thing. And it's that simple. Man.

1211
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: I could talk about sacrifice all day. I sacrificed ten

1212
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: years in my life. Just put out a platform called

1213
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: kid Nation, which is basically the hip hop music and

1214
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: other genres of music for kids with enriching content but

1215
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: sounds just as good as some of the ship that

1216
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: we're putting nowt So go to kid nation dot com

1217
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: and follow kid Nation on i G so you'll see

1218
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: the fruits of that labor moving forward, because we just

1219
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: launched the video on kid nation dot com talking about

1220
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: kids washing their hands with a hook and everything that's

1221
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: catchy that yeah, man, So listen, sacrifice every yeah comes

1222
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: when you guys. You know, when you guys get on

1223
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: the elevator, you hear background music. One of the things

1224
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: we do in our school, I'm the founder tuition free,

1225
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: open enrollment, public charter. We get zero state funding for

1226
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: our facilities, zero. Like I deal with the young people

1227
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: that feel that that are under privilege, that are underserved,

1228
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 1: the ninth grade through the college graduate like that, that's

1229
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: the young people that I nurture. And one of the

1230
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,560
Speaker 1: things we do in our building. And your song that

1231
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: you just mentioned reminding me of it is one of

1232
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: the records I play is nas I know I can

1233
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: so you just reminded me of that. Is that song?

1234
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: Kind of like that? Absolutely, So we only have one

1235
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: song up right now because we're doing a soft lunch.

1236
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: But it's basically it's about hygiene and it's about because

1237
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: that's the number one to fight the that's the number

1238
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: one way to fight this virus right now is about

1239
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,680
Speaker 1: washing your hands the proper way. And then you know

1240
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 1: it's talking about brushing and teeth and just trying to

1241
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: remind our children that that's what's you have to make

1242
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: sure you stay keep your hygiene right. But we have

1243
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: way more songs on the way, So again, any subject

1244
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 1: matter you could poser, we think about that. We're trying

1245
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: to teach our kids Man revolutionary, talk talk to him

1246
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: about Talk to them loud on one of the songs

1247
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 1: about using social media to their benefit not their detriment,

1248
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: like that, talk to them about that because social media

1249
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 1: don't be used by it. Yeah, every time you post

1250
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 1: something that can stop you from getting a scholarship, it

1251
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: can stop you from getting the job, It can stop

1252
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: you from an opportunity, every time people start taking on

1253
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: social media. So young, So Young, I got you because

1254
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: the second verse of that record that I got with

1255
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: Little Wayne, no one was able to hear that on

1256
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: when we're on the battle, but wait till you hear

1257
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: the second verse. I'm definitely hitting some of those things

1258
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: as well as some other controversial topics that will be

1259
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: talked about. I'm sure. So I'll have this record out

1260
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: within a week and uh it right, Timberly, Yeah yeah

1261
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: yeah for that baby. Yeah, but sir so um to change,

1262
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: like uh yeah yeah yeah. What what you said old

1263
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: by saying this song, you know, det just detraiting Atlanta

1264
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: has a kinship. Guys, we're cousins, that's right, her cousins,

1265
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: that's right. The struggle is real. So what you say,

1266
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 1: would you say, Luda, like, is that the most successful

1267
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: artists you put on in this game? Yeah? Man, you

1268
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: know he used to be in the group players, Circle

1269
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: Man and Man name music. If you haven't listened to it,

1270
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 1: you gotta go back and listen to it. Man, you'll

1271
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: see where it's set the stage in the foundation for everything. Yeah,

1272
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: not just stuffle bag, but I mean, you know, it's

1273
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where, like you said, Nori,

1274
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: sometimes when somebody's first album comes out, people don't understand

1275
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: the impact that it really has until later on and

1276
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: you go back and listen to it. That's how you

1277
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: know certain people are ahead of their time. But yeah, man, uh,

1278
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: you know it's his success and everything that he's done.

1279
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more proud man. And it's like it's

1280
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: crazy because our birthdays are like one day apart. So

1281
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: in terms of that virgo stuff, I mean, what more

1282
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: needs to be said. It's just self explanatory. The sacrifices

1283
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: that we all make. We know how to sacrifice. Now,

1284
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: what was that moment like like you you know, you

1285
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: put them on like for lack of a better word

1286
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, and then he says, yo, you

1287
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: know what, I want to go do my own thing.

1288
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: Was that something hard for you to do to let

1289
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: him go and let him do his own thing? Or

1290
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: that was something like, you know what, I understand it

1291
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: because like we said, we all virgos, we probably no, no,

1292
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 1: I understand it. Man. I'm one of those people that

1293
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: always want individuals to grow and evolved. Man, it's just

1294
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: a product of life. That's I'm glad when that is

1295
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: because some people, uh, you know, they just want to

1296
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,759
Speaker 1: stick around. They just want to stick to the regular

1297
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: script and they're comfortable where they at. So, you know,

1298
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: anybody who wants more out of life, I'm always going

1299
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: to support that, man. And that's the original goal. When

1300
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: you are a CEO of something and you have artists.

1301
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: I told l A. Reid one time and he said

1302
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: he's never heard any artist ever say this before in

1303
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: his life. I said, I want to sign artists that

1304
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: are going to be bigger than Ludicrous has ever been.

1305
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: So that was always my goal. It was never a

1306
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: situation where I was like, I only want to sign

1307
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,640
Speaker 1: artists if they're gonna be not as successful as me.

1308
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I'm here to support anyone's dreams

1309
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: and any in anywhere they want to go shape form

1310
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: of fashion. And you know, I know his family. He

1311
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: has a certain place in my heart that will never

1312
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: never go away, So I'm always gonna support anything that

1313
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: he does. God damn a great fun guys, Luda, is

1314
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: there any producer that you haven't worked with that you

1315
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: that you want to work with, that which you were

1316
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: around Dr Dre? He you know, I was almost had

1317
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 1: a beat. I actually worked with him on some of

1318
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: his stuff, but I never had an official Dr Dre

1319
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: beat that ludas and I would love to still explore

1320
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: that and I would love to get a song with

1321
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,600
Speaker 1: Eminem which I gotta make we still have and I

1322
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: was on tour with him. So during that time frame, remember,

1323
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: as you know, juggling and trying to trying to figure

1324
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: something out. But it just never you're talking to him

1325
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 1: rhyming and producing producing, just rhyming or both. Oh, I'm

1326
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: not necessarily stuck to one or the other. The ship

1327
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: is hot. I don't give a fuse forgot to get

1328
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: on the track, right alright, nasty Oh man, this this

1329
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: is beautiful talk right here. Yeah. Absolutely. And also I

1330
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: have to say this because I think somebody says something

1331
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: about strip clubs or songs. Earlier, I talked about the

1332
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: kidship that the trade in Atlanta has a Luda kick.

1333
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong. You know, I love him.

1334
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: He's a he's a legend, he's a geez, a multip millionaire.

1335
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: He's in the mansion right now. I just know that.

1336
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: On Sunday, what was it, uh, Pink pony Pin. Listen,

1337
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,640
Speaker 1: there's so many damns. It could have been I don't know,

1338
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: jazzy teens, it could have been strokers, something different. Every day.

1339
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: It's every single day, man, some of them multiple on

1340
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 1: the same day. So it listened. It changes, you know,

1341
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: every now and then sporadically, But for the most part,

1342
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask y'all, something is it is it?

1343
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: The Magic City should be the most popular strip club

1344
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: in the world, Am I correct? Would you say anything?

1345
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean other than maybe a little lesser known, but

1346
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: the Rolex in Miami, which is kind of legendary. I

1347
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: don't know, you gotta be gotta it was. It was yeah,

1348
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,840
Speaker 1: King of Diamonds. Now, I know about Ko D two

1349
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: KOD for sure, but yeah, man, well married men on

1350
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: here by the way. Yeah, I know this statue of limitations.

1351
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: She said you gotta pass. I was just going with

1352
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: eminem I mean the subject. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you remember

1353
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: lou got kids. He like, you know, this is beautiful.

1354
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: I love to talk just hip hop. I love are

1355
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: talking love about your show, Jalen as you always incorporate

1356
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 1: hip hop, Like everything about your thing is hip hop?

1357
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: Is that something? Is that something you have to run

1358
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: by ESPN or that's just something that you do it

1359
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 1: and they have to accept. Well, thank you for for

1360
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: acknowledging that. So for nine years I'll never forget walking

1361
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: into an ESPN a studio and I'm like, I get

1362
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: to do my own thing. And then they showed up

1363
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: the next day. I had j with the gold tooth

1364
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: in his mouth and the big Rope, I had Bruce Lee,

1365
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 1: I had the Ali Summit. Because across the national landscape,

1366
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: they know they I didn't ask. I didn't ask. I didn't,

1367
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 1: I didn't ask. I work for Disney. I work. I

1368
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: got a corporate job. And so it's like, yo, I've

1369
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: seen other shows, the Nori j they had like bobo

1370
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 1: heads that like helmets the like kind of were cultural

1371
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: vultures in my opinion, but didn't embrace who we were.

1372
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: So I'm like, if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna

1373
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 1: do it correct. And if you not hearing what I'm saying,

1374
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: because remember when you do a television show, I'll tell

1375
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 1: us the people that want to get in this industry,

1376
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: half of your audience isn't hearing what you're saying. There

1377
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: at a bar, there at a restaurant, They at the airport,

1378
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: they're just watching the TV. So your visuals matter, what

1379
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: you're wearing. I try to have a fresh cut. I

1380
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,680
Speaker 1: haven't try to have a good background because they're watching it.

1381
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: And so I wanted it to look like us without

1382
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: me saying a word, and I and I and I

1383
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: got a lot of um pushed back from that. I

1384
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: was in Luda's video move and I was working for

1385
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 1: a SPA. Yeah, I know, I never told you this.

1386
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: So I got a couple of I got a couple

1387
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: of UM emails about that video. You know. I'm like,

1388
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: this is this is what we do, this is who

1389
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 1: we are. Don't just play our songs at the game

1390
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: and in and out of promos like play the video. Yeah,

1391
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the video. I used to fight this. We

1392
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: have the Bible of the Fittest Mob deep for a

1393
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 1: playoff song for NBA Countdown. And I used to be like,

1394
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: that's gonna become like a soundtrack, like you see Draymond

1395
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: Green on the floor put on. They call me d nice,

1396
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: like making a soundtrack. And I was trying to rate

1397
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: this into like national media and it was tough. And

1398
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: so now that is normal. I'm glad that we can

1399
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: do this right now. Norrie, please have another drink and

1400
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: smoke something that Ruda switch your pick anytime you want

1401
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: where whatever you know, Peter you want, because we're here now.

1402
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: But was there what the Fat five look was about?

1403
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: Because the Fat five looked like that was the first

1404
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: time we just got to see hip hop representative. Yes,

1405
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: like a college level, yeah, a level like y'all have back. Yeah,

1406
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 1: y'all was wearing three ex shorts like y'all was wearing

1407
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 1: y'all was wearing like yeah yeah, Like y'all was looking

1408
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: like the hip hop videos that was relevant at that time,

1409
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: and baggy shorts was it, and and y'all was out

1410
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: there with the baggiest or the baggiest damn. The crazy

1411
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:40,560
Speaker 1: thing is from the early nineties to ninety four, I

1412
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: was in college, so then I got a chance to

1413
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 1: be in the league and have my own money. So

1414
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: I remember not being like not being respected, not being

1415
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: appreciated by the mass media, and being treated like I'm

1416
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 1: a criminal or drug dealer or a bad person based

1417
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 1: on my appearance. Like I was listening to the n

1418
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 1: w A and Comfortence most wanted, and the media came

1419
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 1: into the locker room. It was like, I'm a thug.

1420
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm a huddler, you know what I'm saying, because I

1421
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: was representing, like, uh, pop first album. A lot of

1422
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: people sleep on pop first album is real political. We listen, Yeah, right,

1423
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: oh see you a DJ. Yeah before that with two

1424
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: um with um My homies, and that was like that

1425
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: was yeah right after Underground. That's just a dancer. Yeah,

1426
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: like in sports, it's phony in a lot of ways,

1427
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: because we'll show Luta, we'll show t I, we'll show Nori,

1428
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: and we'll show you guys on the front row. But

1429
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: then at the same time, we didn't want to play

1430
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 1: your music. We didn't want to play your music. You

1431
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: can be you can, we can dog and Pony show you,

1432
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: but we we want to play your We're not gonna

1433
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: play your music. But now Luda can go to a

1434
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: game at the with the Hawks and stand at the

1435
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: half court and be button nick in with a microphone

1436
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: and they have beg him to do it. You can

1437
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: go to Nori, you can go to a Nick game.

1438
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: It will beg you to bring your podcast to a

1439
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: game to beg you. Like, it's just different. Now, that's

1440
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 1: all they have to respect us because we got a voice,

1441
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: we got money, and we live in the suburbs too,

1442
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:46,560
Speaker 1: so they can't dismiss us anymore, right, got the Saluta?

1443
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean I gotta act as bigging question. Did you

1444
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: ever think that hip hop gold this fall? Like you

1445
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: ever thought, you know, just loving hip hop? Because at

1446
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,560
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like Jalen, I'm sure you

1447
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: got tested this, you know, you just loving the game

1448
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 1: of basketball has brung you to so many remarkable different places.

1449
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: Um e fn the same thing, but loot to the

1450
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: same thing. It's like, you know, just us loving hip hop,

1451
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: because us loving hip hop is the first love, and

1452
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 1: then the creating hip hop and everything else in the

1453
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: accolades that come after that. You ever thought that hip

1454
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: hop will bring you to the levels I know you've

1455
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 1: been all over the goddamn world. Man. That's that's a

1456
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: great ask question because as a hip hop artist, it's

1457
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: like sometimes you're so engulfed in the ship you haven't

1458
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: even thought that far ahead about where the fun hip

1459
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: hop is going when like when you're in it, like

1460
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 1: when you so much in it, and then it kind

1461
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: of takes for you to get different perspectives and you know,

1462
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: like you said, started traveling the world. And to answer

1463
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: your question, man, I honestly can say the answer that

1464
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: question is no. I It's not like I had any

1465
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: limited expectations for the ship. But at the same time,

1466
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: when you go to these countries that don't speak English

1467
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: and these motherfucker's are reciting every every word, that's crazy.

1468
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 1: That is a little that's something that nobody in hip

1469
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,600
Speaker 1: hop whatever imagine cool hurt would would be on this

1470
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: ship and be like a hell no, I didn't know

1471
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: if this would happen. Are you fucking kidding me? So? Man, No,

1472
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: but I'm so glad that it did. And I think

1473
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 1: it's getting to a point where you're gonna have certain

1474
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: disrunt on individuals because of how commercialized that it has

1475
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: become and wanting to contain a certain amount of it.

1476
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: And I don't see it slowing down any time soon, bro,

1477
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: So you know, but it just depends on what what

1478
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: what area you were in. But Russell Simmons or somebody

1479
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,719
Speaker 1: always said, if you don't embrace what's new, you'll become

1480
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: your own worst enemy. Man, So you gotta be careful

1481
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: abountin you know, evolution and how things are just moved.

1482
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 1: I gotta actually loot um, you know, like Jalen uh

1483
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 1: like Like there's certain periods and certain times of the

1484
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: greatest the bulls, you know, paces this Detroit the bad Boy.

1485
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 1: I feel like there was one point in time with

1486
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: death Jam was the most lethuist all facts fucking label

1487
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: out there the whole era. You conrect me if I'm

1488
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: wrong with Luda, No, you're one right, Nigger, jay z

1489
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 1: d MX Ludacrous. So let's let's talk about the workers first.

1490
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the people that was behind the scenes.

1491
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: The staff. Excuse me, the staff, Thank you, New York Comes,

1492
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: Julique Greenwore, Mike Kaiser, Randy AKA, who else we too? Kevin?

1493
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I said Kevin, I didn't say. I said Mike right,

1494
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 1: Sean Becks. Oh, Like at one point we had the

1495
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: craziest and it was like nothing was fucking with Depth,

1496
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: jam L cool j. Let's get to the artist, Yeah, artist,

1497
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: LLL cool j uh red Man met the man, jay

1498
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: z d, MX j Rule, Nori, who else, Yeah, damn Jacket.

1499
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I only got time for y'all. Basically the rough Riders.

1500
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 1: You got all the dt P, all the like. I mean,

1501
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: like I watched Entourage over and over and over again,

1502
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: and then I watched Empire. I did not watch empireline um,

1503
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: so I didn't power a power Yeah, yeah, but power

1504
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: is about the streets. There has never been a hip

1505
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: hop story like depth. Jam won seventy bat. They did,

1506
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 1: like a little documentary, but it wasn't nothing compared to

1507
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: what you what you're talking about and what you want

1508
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: to see. We have to show, Like listen, there was

1509
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 1: a point in depth Jam. You can go to depth Jam.

1510
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: You get your hair cut, you can buy, you can yes,

1511
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: check at the time, real talk, real talk, noise. Damn

1512
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: you yet you maybe I forgot about that brother, the haircuts,

1513
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: and you didn't have to go to the hood. Yes,

1514
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,799
Speaker 1: you have to go to the hood. You get everything

1515
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:27,760
Speaker 1: right in Depth Jam like fun the hood, Like go there,

1516
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: that's everything. That's it. Man. Did you have something like

1517
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: that in the NBA where you can just like it

1518
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: was like the sohold niggas, so niggas, So I gotta

1519
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 1: I want to expand on what you said about death Jam.

1520
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,800
Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, somebody that's a couple of years

1521
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 1: older than you guys that's been around in the same

1522
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: place at the same time as Russell, same place and

1523
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: same time as Lee or that went to the Night

1524
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: Old Tour with L L. Raising Hill Tour with run

1525
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: DMC and the Beastie Boys and on their code checking

1526
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: and Slick Rick sitting in the ruler chair like I

1527
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 1: like like deaf Jam for me, hip hop, it's a

1528
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: story franchise. That's what that represents. So like in the NBA,

1529
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: you might have the Lakers or the Celtics or whatever.

1530
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:37,080
Speaker 1: That's what death jam represents in music. Everybody, in one way,

1531
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:40,560
Speaker 1: shape or form ended up going through there, Like Scarface

1532
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: ended up being a deaf jam artist, and yeah, correct

1533
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: like Scarface, like just so y'all know, like like I'm

1534
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 1: a Scarface stand ya know right, I'm a Scarface stand

1535
01:30:56,479 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: So Scarface was there. When I say that, I like

1536
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: a hundred stars for me, so so so, so many

1537
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,480
Speaker 1: people have gone through death jam and or their leadership

1538
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: that it's it's the story brand of hip hop music.

1539
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons is the holy grill of people that never

1540
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: spoken to a microphone. And you can, guys can argue

1541
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: with me, argue with me on this, but I feel

1542
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: like the most influential and the like the I guess,

1543
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: the longest uh signory he getting ready to look at it,

1544
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: the longest served and tenured and most accomplished producer. It's

1545
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Andre Young Dr Dre. Like I remember the world class

1546
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: Wrecking Crew and falling in love with Dr Dre Dr

1547
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 1: Tray Tray, I started DJ and and scratching in mm hmm.

1548
01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Like He's had so many people from like d O

1549
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: C above the law eminem fifty cent n w A

1550
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 1: snoop dog like the dog term. So I'll turn it

1551
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 1: over to you experts. But that's what I feel about that.

1552
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,639
Speaker 1: What you think, Luda Man? Again, I was so lost

1553
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: in this in explanation where what the fun was the

1554
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:34,840
Speaker 1: original question you got? I had a good one hold

1555
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: on what was my ship because we were talking about

1556
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: the artist in death jam Man, we just wait somewhere

1557
01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 1: when the original question was about really the greatness of

1558
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:48,479
Speaker 1: death Gene and the influence of depth chance. This, this is,

1559
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 1: this is what I feel like, Luda. You know you

1560
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: being a like we have to tell that story. Yeah,

1561
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: you see Entourage. Entourage got shipped on the depth dam story.

1562
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 1: We don't have jam story like that. That's true, the

1563
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:06,760
Speaker 1: real behind the scenes of how like young Jeezy was

1564
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: with def jam I'm looking at a Platner plaque hanging

1565
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: on my wall right now and forgot about them. I'll

1566
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you something. This is a clip

1567
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: called the Real World, right and um, this is when

1568
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 1: the Real World documentary had first came and def Camp

1569
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 1: flew all of us out there and they gave us

1570
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:32,879
Speaker 1: all the drugs in the world, the drugs in the world,

1571
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:35,880
Speaker 1: those Vegas, the real world. You know about a couple

1572
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: of ladies. Wass Tina involved in this Coeople that I know? No,

1573
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: ain't nobody, it ain't incriminated. Good call, Luda were nobody.

1574
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Death Jam was the ultimate like label. They knew how

1575
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,280
Speaker 1: to bail you out. They know every day it was,

1576
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: it was it. Luda understands what I'm talking about, like

1577
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: through is it true? But we need a not a

1578
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 1: documentary documentary. Need to re enact. Men. You gotta make it.

1579
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 1: You gotta make that happen. Pets. Yeah, that's a cost. Yeah,

1580
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: it's all a part of that little bunch man. It's

1581
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,000
Speaker 1: on the part of that little bunch man. So what

1582
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: what what's your favorite era hip hop? Luda? Is that

1583
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: that Death Jam area that you was just talking about

1584
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: break that's real ship. I'm just being honest that man,

1585
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,000
Speaker 1: that's God damn. And like you said, Man, the moral

1586
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 1: to to what we're talking about today is you honestly

1587
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: don't really realize how specialsome ship is until way after

1588
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: then you see the impact that it had. Man, music, culture,

1589
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: uh everything, Man, like that ship that ages like fine

1590
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: line like I'm speaking about on that battle, that's the

1591
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: what do we get into as we get out of alcohols.

1592
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: The ship that's get a eat for a certain amount

1593
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: of time, the best flowers, the best cigars where you

1594
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: put them in a human or they they they you

1595
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: know they DISI paid all the bad stuff and to

1596
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,679
Speaker 1: people that pay golf where you gotta take a lifetime

1597
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: in order to damn there, you know, become an expert.

1598
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 1: You start getting in the ship that you really love

1599
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 1: that you can only get better at in your lifetime space.

1600
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,040
Speaker 1: At the point you need to be in a game

1601
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 1: about what's what's the best ever for you for basketball jailing.

1602
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: So that was a great answer, luta um and I

1603
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: want both of you guys to know, like there there

1604
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: are so many young people that want to be like

1605
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 1: you and want to do what you do. And you're discipline, responsible,

1606
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 1: you're educated, you're both smart like nor are you smart?

1607
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: Like you play the role that I play in this game.

1608
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I know I'm not blowing your cover. She's like, oh,

1609
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: I know you want to play dumb. You know what

1610
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you know nobody that you ain't on

1611
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:05,120
Speaker 1: the stage, and I know that you ain't. So nothing

1612
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:11,120
Speaker 1: like in the same the same with you Luda, and

1613
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: and what ends up happening is, like both of you

1614
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: guys have so many people that you influence and want

1615
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:23,920
Speaker 1: to be like you guys that the culture follows when

1616
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: you don't even realize. And so there was a time

1617
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 1: when the South, and we mentioned this earlier, felt underappreciated.

1618
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: But Luda, you got barged dog, thank you sir, like

1619
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: like you got like like we And what ends up

1620
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: happening is don't judge ourselves by like some trolls on

1621
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 1: social media and I and I hate to be this dude,

1622
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: Like I really hate to be this dude, but like,

1623
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: we gotta judge ourselves by the deals that we did

1624
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: and the money that's in our account and where you

1625
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: live and how you eat. Man, you gotta we gotta

1626
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 1: judge ourselves by how many motherfucker's we help. Yeah, correct

1627
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: with with everything that you just said. With the money

1628
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: that we've made in the places we live is who

1629
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: we affect from that that's how you judge yourself. Like

1630
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 1: we're a little shooting for right now. He trying to

1631
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: tone it down. He's like he was like, I'm going

1632
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,599
Speaker 1: to the worst rule in this space because I want

1633
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: to be low key but like dog, I know, like

1634
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: like Nori got his records back there, but he don't

1635
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: really having stuff back there. You know what I'm saying.

1636
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: It's so like like like you guys are role models too.

1637
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 1: I just gotta keep stressing that point that so many

1638
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 1: people want to be like you guys, like you're black

1639
01:37:55,960 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: and brown, you're smart, your entrepreneurs, your lead eaters, um,

1640
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 1: you're well spoken, discipline, you work hard. That I just

1641
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 1: gotta make sure that I always stress that traits about

1642
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 1: those traits about you guys, because sometimes most of the

1643
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: time people underestimate that about you. And man, we were great.

1644
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: We greatly appreciate that my brother and Yeah, theyin't gonna

1645
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,680
Speaker 1: estimate that about you. You know, they underestimated. I love

1646
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: these conversations. We gotta have more of these, Man, this

1647
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: ship is amazing. Yeah. The snippet of the little Wayne

1648
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: Timberland we heard a snippet right, YEA million dollar question

1649
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 1: is what label is this coming out? Wrong? I want

1650
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 1: to get to the money. Yeah, I'm in the midst

1651
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 1: of doing something pretty you know, um monumental, but I'm

1652
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 1: not able to really speak on it right now. But

1653
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 1: to answer your question, this particular song will probably just

1654
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: come out before the monumental thing happened, So it may

1655
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:06,280
Speaker 1: it'll be right in line with me putting this out

1656
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 1: for the people just to give them something before I

1657
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,640
Speaker 1: embark on moving forward with more music on another platform.

1658
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,519
Speaker 1: That's the best way that I can kind of say

1659
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: it without being you know, specific at this particular moment.

1660
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 1: Disagree with me. So this is what what this said

1661
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: to my mind. This single might come out on Empire,

1662
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 1: but then something totally totally your hand out of my pocket. Man,

1663
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to confirm or to not right, I'm

1664
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: not confirming where it's coming out, but it will definitely

1665
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: be I'm giving I have to hurry up and rush

1666
01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: it out to the people at this point because that

1667
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,560
Speaker 1: even that wasn't even supposed to happen. So Timberland is

1668
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: on my neck, like we have to get these songs

1669
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: out immediately. So to answer your question, I'm still trying

1670
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,559
Speaker 1: to really figure it all the way out, but within

1671
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 1: the next seven days we will have it figured out.

1672
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 1: And another thing, I've seen you on Grandma l L

1673
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,960
Speaker 1: and you played up what what what the what? What's

1674
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 1: you play them at least Fatty Girl verse Bro, you

1675
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 1: got you gotta hit for Real man. I don't know

1676
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: if he saw that, but for Real produced the original

1677
01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,639
Speaker 1: beat and he's sampled fat alber and at the beginning,

1678
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: done na gonna have dumb. So this LLL. It was

1679
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 1: just me and LLL. On the original version. LLL had

1680
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:34,640
Speaker 1: two verses and so this was over fifteen years ago. Bro.

1681
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting here like l L is the person

1682
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 1: who made me want to rap when I was in

1683
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 1: the fourth grade, and I knew every word. I'm bad.

1684
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: So take your most of the man to put his

1685
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 1: face in the sand, I did exactly exactly, So check

1686
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: this out. The crazy ship is. I had to get

1687
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: all these old songs because I didn't know what I

1688
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: was gonna play in this battle. And obviously again I

1689
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: had so many, so many more songs than twenty. I

1690
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: just had this on the back burner, and when I

1691
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:03,600
Speaker 1: went live with LLL, I was like, you know what

1692
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 1: the fuck LLL up right now? If I played this ship,

1693
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I guarantee he don't remember these verses from over fifteen

1694
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:11,799
Speaker 1: years ago because the sample never got clear. And Nigga

1695
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 1: noriy knows LLL. He's not the easiest motherfucker to get

1696
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: to smile, just one on one, like you know he

1697
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: keeps uh, he will keep a brick wall up if

1698
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: you don't trust nobody. If you go back and look

1699
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,759
Speaker 1: at my Instagram at ludicrous and you see that Nigga

1700
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: was like a little kid when I played them two

1701
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 1: verses man. For me to be able to do that

1702
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: for a person, that made me want to wrap. I

1703
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 1: don't think anybody will understand what that meant to me.

1704
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Time for hip hop period. Well in casey, I don't know.

1705
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 1: What Dream Champs is about. Is about saluting all people,

1706
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:51,760
Speaker 1: the longevity that we have and every other culture. I

1707
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, in ten years you become season.

1708
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 1: I feel like in our culture you have ten years

1709
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: or twelve years or fifteen years of more. People want

1710
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:03,759
Speaker 1: to say you're washed up. I wanted to change that narrative.

1711
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to, you know, dig into our people and

1712
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 1: say that you know, we legends. You know what I mean.

1713
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:10,800
Speaker 1: And I wanted both of y'all to I want both

1714
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: of y'all to understand that legends man and you are

1715
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 1: to to and what we did collective becau Let me

1716
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 1: get some let me get something home for the ship

1717
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 1: band from TV my favorite and I'll still listen to

1718
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: that ship. Dog w report what you drinking? Jaillen? What

1719
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 1: is that? I look a spell? So so, Luda, you

1720
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: appreciate this as well as Nori. I can show this

1721
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: because I can act like it's sports and ESPM and

1722
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: talking about the last dance, so I can say, hey,

1723
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm drinking this because we're showing a lot of Michael Jordan's.

1724
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: That's Michael Jordan's tequila. Okay, you know, Luda, you gotta

1725
01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: ask you you watch the last dance, you gotta ask

1726
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 1: Jailing the question about the last man. Listen, I did

1727
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: bro and I listen people, I wonder why I wear

1728
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Jordan's all to go man, I'm such a Jordan's I'm

1729
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: such a Jordan's fan, not only of the shoes, but

1730
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: I'm so blad people got to saw that, see that

1731
01:43:11,280 --> 01:43:13,800
Speaker 1: last dance because of what he stood for, how competitive

1732
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:16,280
Speaker 1: he was, how he would stop at no cost, How

1733
01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 1: this nigga was finding ship to be mad at to

1734
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 1: drive him in order to happy when he shut down.

1735
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 1: Jalen and Reggie Miller, let's just stow start Yeah happy.

1736
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the extreme in order for it

1737
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: to be an interesting story man, and it was such

1738
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 1: an interesting story. So I do have a question for

1739
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: for Jalen the rumors that you may have heard about

1740
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,080
Speaker 1: how there were times where this nigga might smoke two

1741
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,160
Speaker 1: or three cigars before he went out and played mother

1742
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: poll game of basketball. What the like? How many cigars

1743
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: didn't really smoked, like take a puff or two of

1744
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,559
Speaker 1: it and then put it out. So so, oh, my goodness,

1745
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: I love our culture so much. So like, thank you

1746
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: very much for asking me that question, because I thank

1747
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Nori because he forced me to ask you a question.

1748
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: So here's the thing people have to make the fact

1749
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 1: that as artists you have is that make you get

1750
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: into the mold to be creative. Whatever it is. It

1751
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,160
Speaker 1: could be somebody rubbing your toes. It could be you smoking,

1752
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: It could be you sleeping, It could be you drinking,

1753
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 1: it could be whatever. And some of the most discouraging

1754
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: things that I saw documentary Jay was smoking, drinking and

1755
01:44:54,200 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: had a pop belly and be this for real, fam

1756
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Like I didn't realize, Like y'all know, social media wasn't

1757
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: like that in the nineties, you know what I'm saying.

1758
01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: We had we had voicemails, we had answering machines like

1759
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't like that. So I'm thinking that m J

1760
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: eating lemons and drinking celery juice and going home and

1761
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: beating us. Now I'm watching this, I'm like, he's looking

1762
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: cigars on game day, got a belly, and he beat us.

1763
01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed. I'm disappointed. I just didn't know how many

1764
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: fuckers regards that Nigga was sometimes smoke because I'm sure

1765
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,560
Speaker 1: after the game, after the game, if he won, the

1766
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 1: Nigga was went right back to smoking more. You never

1767
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: seen him looting without a drink or a cigar. Day

1768
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,320
Speaker 1: that he produced, he produced it so that this is

1769
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: how he is right now. He smoked like five cigars

1770
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: that day all day. Come home, Bro, it's a different world. Bro,

1771
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 1: that Niggas he's an alien man, he's a fucking a

1772
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 1: league is not from this world at all, never has been. Hey, man,

1773
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: I love you motherfucker's, but are y'all hungry? Mind? Got

1774
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: I gotta eat some fucking food in a minute. Are

1775
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: y'all gonna pass me up? Late? In this bench? There?

1776
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: You you the only one that own like five restaurants, right,

1777
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:42,360
Speaker 1: it's just a chicken chicken Beers in the restaurant, I

1778
01:46:42,400 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 1: mean in the airport, the Atlanta airport. Yeah, I just

1779
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:50,160
Speaker 1: ain't there. I've been eating there all the town trade

1780
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I always rich, you gotta beh No, it's not.

1781
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,560
Speaker 1: It's not about how rich you gotta be. You know.

1782
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,400
Speaker 1: With the airport situation. They have people that they come

1783
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: together and there's a bid and basically you have to

1784
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,240
Speaker 1: win the bid in this in the whole concourse, and

1785
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,680
Speaker 1: that's basically it's like a bunch of business partners and

1786
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 1: then they kind of have a raffle and things of

1787
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 1: that nature. So that's what it is. It's really just about,

1788
01:47:16,160 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, kind of looking up and and having the

1789
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 1: right individuals around you and making sure that you are

1790
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 1: a hundred percent when it comes to all of the

1791
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 1: rules and regulations that everything that needs to be done.

1792
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 1: So that's God right there. Man, Hey Nori, can I

1793
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: can I go san from and song on you like

1794
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: whenever Median Hoppy come to the house and they translate

1795
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: what they're saying. Basically, Luda had more money and being

1796
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:44,880
Speaker 1: hired that everybody in that side of the concourse to

1797
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 1: make sure that he got his restaurant. And that's kind

1798
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 1: of that's kind of what I heard. Hilarious, that's kind

1799
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: of what I heard. That's the last two questions that

1800
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: we gonna get up out of here. So is so,

1801
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: how is it being? Are you in Georgia or you

1802
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 1: knew how to tell me? Yeah? I mean Atlanta. By

1803
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: the way, when I do come to drink Champs, you

1804
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 1: better believe I'm about to eat a motherfucking fast because

1805
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: I know we got you, we got you, got good. Yeah.

1806
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: How is it? How is it being like the first

1807
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,320
Speaker 1: couple of states that's opened up? Have you been out

1808
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, or you've been staying I

1809
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 1: have not, Man, I don't I don't agree with them

1810
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: opening up early. I feel like, yeah, the numbers still

1811
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 1: going up, and you know, I think people, this is

1812
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 1: we're in a time right now where we really, you know,

1813
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: have to identify the leaders from the followers and people

1814
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,679
Speaker 1: need to step up. And uh, you know, the leaders

1815
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 1: are all saying it's it's well except for one particular leader,

1816
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: and then it makes you question why exactly he's telling certainly, well,

1817
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about our own commander and tweets Yeah, that's

1818
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,760
Speaker 1: that's only one of the people. Yeah, that's only one

1819
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 1: of them. But but yeah, man, I would recommend we

1820
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 1: don't go out. Definitely. We're trying to stay safe, man

1821
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: and healthy and continue to That's why I said kid

1822
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: nation dot com. Man, we gotta we gotta plant the

1823
01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 1: seeds in the future and make them think along different

1824
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 1: lines than some of some of us do in our

1825
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: adult stage period. Yeah, the same thing, man. I feel

1826
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:18,839
Speaker 1: like Luda and I appreciate both of you, um gentlemen

1827
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:24,480
Speaker 1: that are really intelligent and your socially and politically conscious

1828
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: and you put on for the culture like this isn't

1829
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 1: the time for black and brown people to rush and

1830
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 1: started slapping high fives, hugging one another and acting like

1831
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: that we have a cure or a vaccine to the

1832
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 1: coronavirus because we don't. And a lot of cities are

1833
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: gonna open early and that's because that they they understand

1834
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,920
Speaker 1: the commerce that comes with that. But we have to

1835
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 1: stay safe because like Luda was just you know, basically

1836
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 1: alluded to, they put us in a four hundred year

1837
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:09,080
Speaker 1: um trail position, so we like in close proximity with

1838
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 1: one another. So when you hear like social distancing, like

1839
01:50:13,920 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 1: we don't have the money or the space to like

1840
01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: get further from each other and be six ft in

1841
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 1: the market and that fed X or ups at the

1842
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 1: barbershop or that type of thing. So I just hope

1843
01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 1: that small businesses and black and brown people are able

1844
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: to maintain themselves and stay healthy during this period of time.

1845
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: But like Luda said, this ain't the time yet, Like

1846
01:50:43,960 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 1: we need like another couple of weeks, another month to

1847
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: really acknowledge what's happening in our country. Real talk, well,

1848
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: he said, a little, real talk, he said it. Man,

1849
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: you know I can be honest. Man. You know, drink Champs.

1850
01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know. We started this

1851
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 1: four years ago, and the whole thing is about giving

1852
01:51:06,960 --> 01:51:09,920
Speaker 1: people their flowers. Now, everybody always want to show you

1853
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,200
Speaker 1: love the person passed away or die, and we are

1854
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: great while we alive, you know. And that's the reason

1855
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,920
Speaker 1: why I started drink Champ because it doesn't take me

1856
01:51:19,560 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: anything to say that, Jail Rods, you're a great, motherfucking loutle.

1857
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: You you motherfucking great. It doesn't take anything away from me.

1858
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm a man's man, and I love to give people

1859
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 1: their flowers. Now, that's the reason why I started drink Chatter.

1860
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 1: The reason why ef And hopefully his internet funked up,

1861
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: but you know I'm holding him down. That's my brother,

1862
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: and this is the reason why to show you people

1863
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: how much we love you. Guys. Hey man, let me

1864
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 1: let me just say this thing. Why are you? Whyre

1865
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,439
Speaker 1: you on that subject? Bro? I don't know if anybody's

1866
01:51:48,439 --> 01:51:50,680
Speaker 1: ever told you this in this particular way, but as

1867
01:51:50,720 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 1: a student of hip hop, as a person who loved

1868
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 1: hip hop, as you being one of the individuals that

1869
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 1: came before me, what I can say about you in

1870
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,440
Speaker 1: a world where rapp and it's a lot of motherfucker's

1871
01:52:01,479 --> 01:52:05,320
Speaker 1: that sound very similar and sound very alike, there's one

1872
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 1: thing that can never be said about Nori. When it

1873
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: comes to getting on a track. You're going to do

1874
01:52:11,320 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 1: something and find a cadence in a beat that absolutely

1875
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: no one on this motherfucking earth would ever remotely think

1876
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: about doing it the way that you do it for real,

1877
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: would give you certain beats. And you know, like as rappers,

1878
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: sometimes we try to figure out how we're gonna get

1879
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 1: on the track and how we're gonna ride that motheruck

1880
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 1: how are we gonna do certain things? And you hear

1881
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: Nori get on the track you'd be like, how in

1882
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 1: the fuck this nigga dude? Like, how did he think

1883
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 1: to get on the track in this particular way? You

1884
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:49,000
Speaker 1: are unique in the sense of you got that, Bro,

1885
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm giving you that. I'm telling you right now, not

1886
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,800
Speaker 1: one person on this earth would be able to step

1887
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: on a fucking song the way that you do. And

1888
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: that's what makes you stand out as the individual that

1889
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 1: you are. Bro. Here, that's so and that's somebody that

1890
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 1: I was living in Miami in the late nineties and

1891
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 1: somebody that was so very blast and fortunate to spend

1892
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 1: time with Luda, and he was gracious enough to put

1893
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 1: me in one of his videos. I can't lie, Like

1894
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:22,879
Speaker 1: the War Report, the n R. Hayden and the Caden's

1895
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: reminded me of one another. So like for me to

1896
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,839
Speaker 1: be on with both of you guys like I'm nobody special,

1897
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 1: it's just like crazy to me. So congratulations and I

1898
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,640
Speaker 1: appreciate you'all having me on. Love it, man, We love

1899
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 1: We love both of your brothers. Man. Thinking for taking

1900
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: the time out for that'st with drink chats, because drink chats,

1901
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,759
Speaker 1: that's what it's about. It's about giving people their flowers

1902
01:53:44,080 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 1: or they could smell. How many comes? Is that? That's? What?

1903
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Is that? My third bottle? I know everyone I know

1904
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,559
Speaker 1: just stating it now. But we did this four years

1905
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 1: ago because I've realized that me bigging up my brothers

1906
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: doesn't take nothing away from me. Me. I love hip hop.

1907
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: I remember, Lulu, Do you remember the diary? We did

1908
01:54:02,200 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: a diary MTV diary. I do remember that. I'm on Depth, Yam,

1909
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm I'm messing around Luca got I think the number

1910
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 1: one record at the time, lud So Ludas. We all

1911
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 1: on the Depth Jam toll So Ludas going to each

1912
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 1: different room and listen, you tell me if I'm lying,

1913
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:27,680
Speaker 1: you stop me if I'm lying. At one and at

1914
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: the time, a lot of people from New York was

1915
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: migrating to Atlanta, and it was a great thing. It's

1916
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: a super great thing. But it was one dude that

1917
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: was dead and he said, these motherfucker's come out here

1918
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: from Queens. They don't show nobody loves And I said love.

1919
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: He slammed this nigga all over the rule mind you.

1920
01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 1: Luda told me coming, but I didn't know that. The

1921
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 1: moment that Luda come in my room, over your body

1922
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:03,040
Speaker 1: slamming the nigga from Queen. Yeah, and I'm not a

1923
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: lion and she is hilarious. But I remember that ship. Yes,

1924
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: all up against the wall and everything. But that's crazy crazy.

1925
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 1: I love it. Broyo Man, I love you too. Luda Man,

1926
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 1: you're Jalen Rose Man. I love both of your family. Man,

1927
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 1: Yo Man, thank you so much man, both of you

1928
01:55:21,720 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: brothers Man, Luda Man, congratulations, Jada, congratulations. Keep doing the

1929
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: everything we were doing man and every Yo. Man, I

1930
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 1: can't be I'm so thankful man. You know what I mean.

1931
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: We're thankful for you. Lou. Yeah, apparently I'll see both

1932
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 1: of y'all song. I appreciate the love absolutely. Thank you,

1933
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:46,000
Speaker 1: brothers both Man has been a story. Goddamn is this story? Yeah?

1934
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, I don't even know it. Thank you, Jayleen family.

1935
01:55:55,200 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text you see