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Speaker 1: We welcome here to this edition of the Official Titans Podcast,

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Speaker 1: better known as the OTP. My name is Mike Keith.

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Speaker 1: Amy Wells is here. Hey Mike, how are you splendid?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing this holiday week? We're glad you're here.

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Speaker 1: Coach Dave McGinnis from Titans Radio. I'm Mike Keith, how

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Speaker 1: are you, sir? Great? All right? And the great Jim

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Speaker 1: Wyatt speaking of great from Titans Online dot Com, Senior

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Speaker 1: writer editor, Hello and welcome. I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: We're doing the podcast this week on Tuesday, November twenty sixth.

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Speaker 1: Because of the holiday week. Everything is sped up for us,

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Speaker 1: because we have radio shows and TV shows and podcasts,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of the non football staff will get

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Speaker 1: time off. But for the football staff, there's really no

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Speaker 1: time off. It's not a holiday week by any stretch

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Speaker 1: of the imagination. Never has been thirty four years up

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Speaker 1: in this league. I've you Thanksgiving and Christmas or But

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Speaker 1: you do give the coaches time off to be with

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Speaker 1: their families, you know, absolutely. And the players they'll get

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Speaker 1: some they'll they'll get some time, but you don't ever,

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Speaker 1: I mean, your your preparations during the week, stay on

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Speaker 1: the same time frame. You push some some things up.

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Speaker 1: You might get out a little bit earlier on Thursday

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Speaker 1: so you can go have Thanksgiving with the families. But

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Speaker 1: the preparation stays the same. It's a great week. It's

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Speaker 1: a great week, family, food, and football, Yes, the three fs.

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Speaker 1: I'll be more excited when I get my groceries. You

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Speaker 1: still got cooking to do. We are forty eight hours out.

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Speaker 1: I have not sent foot in any sort of food

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Speaker 1: and that's about it. I'm a little stressed. Amy, may

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Speaker 1: I suggest Kroger. The officials ten Kroger might catch me

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Speaker 1: crying in an aisle somewhere, just trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what's going on. But I've got a grocery list in

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Speaker 1: I am ready to go. John White, Now you have

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Speaker 1: a huge family. I do have a huge flame. They're

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Speaker 1: kind of scattered and always I'm late. Did you know

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Speaker 1: you know the coach Mike said, the football operations still go,

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Speaker 1: so they'll still practice. I saw the practice schedule and

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Speaker 1: it is actually earlier than I remember it being in

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Speaker 1: getting away faster. We'll got to have a couple of

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Speaker 1: cups of Duncan Donuts Coffield. We're ready for practice. But

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Speaker 1: I can make an appearance at the in laws and

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Speaker 1: that's Thursday, but we're going today on Tuesday. Let's start

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Speaker 1: with something that we have coming next week for the OTP,

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Speaker 1: and I want Amy to talk about it because it's

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Speaker 1: a way that the people who subscribe in the people

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Speaker 1: who listen to the OTP, can take part. We are

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Speaker 1: stealing Jim Wyatt's idea. I mean, that's basically what this is.

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Speaker 1: So after talking about Jim Wyatt's mailbag and all of

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Speaker 1: the interaction that he's able to have with people, it

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Speaker 1: has been decided that the OTP needs a similar venue.

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Speaker 1: We need a similar way that people can ask us

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Speaker 1: questions we can get them answered on the OTP. And

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Speaker 1: so I bring to you all the otpques, the OTP

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Speaker 1: q Q for Questions questions. I'll like, here you go

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Speaker 1: that otp qes. So we have a website if you

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Speaker 1: got Titans online dot com slash otp Q, you can

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Speaker 1: submit questions that we will answer right here on the show.

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Speaker 1: And the first episode that we are going to be

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Speaker 1: using OTP cues is December third. December third, so we're

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Speaker 1: doing the whole show with questions. Do you think we'll

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Speaker 1: actually get questions? I hope. So, I think we have

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Speaker 1: the OTP listeners. That feels a little little little cheap.

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Speaker 1: So we also have Jim Wyatt who were dangling in

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Speaker 1: right here that will answer your questions next week the

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Speaker 1: slash OTPQ. All right, let's get to the roster moves.

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Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt Cameron Wake is going on injured reserve. The

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Speaker 1: and he's not only just telling them they announce it

427
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: to the crowd, because they have to announce it to

428
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Speaker 1: the opposing team. Now, when you've got a goal line

429
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: defense and they're playing a six two goal line, so

430
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: you've got five eligible receivers, you've got five people responsible

431
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: man demand. Okay, so the linebacker that was off the

432
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage had him man demand. But now, I've

433
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: seen plays like this. I've defended plays like this before

434
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: if they've used tackle eligibles, if the tackles because most

435
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: of those times, you know, are quivering like a dog

436
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: trying to hit a screen door because they're they're so

437
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: they want to get out quick. If they get out quick,

438
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: the jig's up, I mean, they give it away. So

439
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: what they have to do is engage like they're blocking,

440
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 1: and so that your eyes leave them and go to

441
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: the running back. And we've got a monster running back

442
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: back there that you know, you assume you might be

443
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance you're going to hand it to him.

444
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: So he did a great job of setting his block,

445
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Speaker 1: holding his count, and then that's why he was so

446
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: wide open. You have somebody accounted for him man demand,

447
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: but he technically set it up very well. And then

448
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: he went into Amy Wells's bush baby story. That's pretty

449
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, it's good stuff. I think two thousand

450
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: and eight is the last time he maybe you caught

451
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Speaker 1: a touchdown pass you mentioned his high school days. Thought

452
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: it was the last time, and he's pretty funny. I mean,

453
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: I thought the celebration was good. I think I asked

454
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Speaker 1: Vaybel about it on the radio show Monday night, and

455
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: he was he thought it was okay because it was

456
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Speaker 1: fast the celebration. Yeah, I like celebrations that intentionally try

457
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: to get everyone involved. And Dennis Kelly said that he

458
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: intentionally wanted every person to be able to get involved.

459
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: They had practiced, yeah, and they had also been told

460
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Speaker 1: it better be fast because some of those guys are

461
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: on the extra point team. Yep, so they don't have

462
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: old day to you know, pose and go hug everybody.

463
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: You know what though, And again, I mean, i'm as

464
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Speaker 1: old schools are come in the National Football League after

465
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Speaker 1: thirty something year. I like that, But as long as

466
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Speaker 1: it's done within the forty seconds and you get back

467
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: and you make the play. Look, I mean that was

468
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: a big play. Huge play. I just like spike in

469
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 1: the ball. I always thought what Gronkowski did was because

470
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: when I grew up watching the NFL, watching somebody spike

471
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: the ball because you couldn't do it in college, it

472
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: was always really special. And then Billy White Shoes. Johnson

473
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Speaker 1: had the Billy White Shoes Johnson dance, which was his own,

474
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Speaker 1: which was okay, and then there was the Ikey Shuffle,

475
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: which was his thing, and then it sort of developed

476
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: into other things they eventually cut out, and now some

477
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Speaker 1: of the planned stuff. I like it if it's clever.

478
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't like it if it's stupid. I don't like

479
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: it if it takes too long. But there have been

480
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Speaker 1: some very clever ones in the last couple of years

481
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: since the celebration rules have kind of been what's clever

482
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: lusen well. I mean the first time that everyone was

483
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: bowling pins and they fell down. That was kind of funny.

484
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: It's old now, but it was funny to start the

485
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: bye Bye Bye thing, the in sync celebration. That was

486
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Speaker 1: funny our guys to remember the Titans dance. I thought

487
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: that was to remember the Titans dance. I also like

488
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: the Motown thing, the defense. I'm more defense. In terms

489
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: of celebrations, the motown thing they did after a fumble,

490
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: recovery and interception, which was shown forever, I thought that

491
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: was pretty great. Like the people taking the pictures, that's

492
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: too much. The people who have like dramatic, over the

493
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: top things that require an explanation, but like things that

494
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Speaker 1: are very easily recognizable and quick, I'm into it. But

495
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Speaker 1: I liked the choreography quick. I like quick. I don't

496
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Speaker 1: mind him celebrating, I really don't. I do love a

497
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Speaker 1: good spike. The head coach here caught a few touchdown

498
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Speaker 1: passes in his day two and he would spike it hard,

499
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: which is I like that too, But as long as

500
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Speaker 1: it doesn't take too long. Look, those are exciting moments,

501
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, and they're not taking away from the game,

502
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: as long as you get back and get lined up.

503
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Speaker 1: Like I saw him do a flap in his arms

504
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: like an eagle one time in the Super Bowl when

505
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: you might catch against the Yes, kind of taunted him,

506
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: which is way okay with me too. All right, So

507
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. So so Bates and Kelly,

508
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: two guys on this roster who are not big names,

509
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: but to the guys in the locker room, they're significant

510
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: and they certainly have significant roles on a fifty three

511
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: man roster. They're pending free agents. The Titans have several

512
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: guys who are pending free agents. Conklin, Henry Mariota, Logan,

513
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Sharp, Tannehill, Dave McGinnis. Let me ask you this,

514
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: how much has already been determined about starting to shape

515
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty in the mind of the front office, and

516
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: then how much would be determined by what goes on

517
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: the last five games. You can't keep everybody, obviously, but

518
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: in terms of who you're gonna try to keep, what's

519
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: going on with all of that right now? If anything? Oh,

520
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: I mean there's a constant evaluation week to week. I

521
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: mean it's constantly going on because it's just the business

522
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: of the league. You have to do that. But the

523
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: key is good front offices, which we've got a real

524
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,479
Speaker 1: good one here. You keep your powder dry until you

525
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: have to make a decision, right, so you gather all

526
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: the information you can. We still got a lot of

527
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: information together for this season. There are no foregone conclusions

528
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: ever in the National Football League. But the evaluation it's constantly.

529
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I've said this before on this program, and

530
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I'll continue to say it because it's true. Every days

531
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: an interview in this league and the evaluation on these

532
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: free agents and everybody on this roster, it goes on daily,

533
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: and it goes on weekly. True story. Yeah, I mean,

534
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of this team does have

535
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: a lot of pending free agents, and I think you

536
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: have an idea on what you want to do with

537
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: some of these guys at this point, but but there's

538
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: so many variables. There's so many things that you just

539
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: just don't know, and you won't know really until March.

540
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: And that's who else is going to be a free

541
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: agent on other teams? What's the price gonna look like

542
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: on some of these guys, and that sometime it's gonna

543
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: be based on whether some of these guys resign with

544
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: their teams. You know, who's the franchise tag going on?

545
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: Not only here but elsewhere. So there's whole it's just

546
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. Well, and how much is

547
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: your quarterback gonna cost? Right? And does that determine you know,

548
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: other spots, because it's really like a puzzle and the

549
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: whole we're getting the quarterback, all four of us are

550
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: getting the quarterback. Question everywhere we go, when are you

551
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: going to do something? And I keep telling people that

552
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: ask me, and maybe the three of you say the

553
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: same thing. They're not gonna do anything until after the season.

554
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: They're not gonna make any commitment because John Robinson wants

555
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: to see the whole thing for twenty nineteen finish, to

556
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: get the full vision. He's gonna take advantage of every

557
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: week of review before he makes any decision, because what

558
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,959
Speaker 1: if you win all the rest of them? What if

559
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: you don't? What if Mariota goes back in and plays well?

560
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: I mean, what if what if the offense continues to

561
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: be high potents? I mean, who knows? He's saying, Why

562
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: would I want to make that decision in week twelve

563
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: when I can watch the rest of the way. It's

564
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: to my point, I mean, you don't. I mean, I look,

565
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: I've got the advantage of having been in this league

566
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: when there was no free agency, right and then once

567
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: free agency came in, teams had to learn how to

568
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: navigate free agency. And free agency is not operated in

569
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: a vacuum. Free agency is not just what's going on

570
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: with your team. Free agency is what's going on with

571
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: the other thirty one teams in the National Football League.

572
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I say keep your powder dry. You

573
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything until you have to do something.

574
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: And that's to Jim's point, to all of our points

575
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: and for the you know, for our listeners, you know,

576
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: to become educated on this. You don't have to make

577
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: a move. There are some moves. I mean, I can

578
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: tell you a team that played last night. I won't

579
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: mention their names, but they play in LA and they're

580
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: the rams that have given some big contracts out that

581
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: they're probably regretting right now because they pull the trigger

582
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: too quick. You don't want to do that. And I

583
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: get you get the same questions with Derrick Henry. When's

584
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: this team gonna lock them up? We know what's you're

585
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: gonna give him a long term deal? And then these

586
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: are offseason questions. I mean, for a couple of different reasons.

587
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: Every one's while. You'll see something happen with a guy

588
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: and if if, if that works out, great, but there

589
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: are a couple of other things you gotta consider. It's

590
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: one you really want Derrick Henry, if you want to

591
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: keep him to a long term deal. Wondering about this

592
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: contract here in December and whether the team is is

593
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: offering enough money and having back and forth with that.

594
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Speaker 1: And let's say you'll work out a deal and these

595
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: all hypotheticals here, but what if you work out a

596
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: deal with Logan Ryan, then what's Derrick Henry gonna think?

597
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: And what's Ryan Tanneyhill gonna think? So if you give

598
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: a contract to one guy, then you don't want that

599
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: stuff in December or other guys thinking well, this guy

600
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: got a long term deal, what what about me? I mean,

601
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: those are things you'll worry about when the season ends.

602
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 1: And that's just part of it. And then as we

603
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: see with John, John Robinson is not going to do

604
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: anything until he has to. If we've learned anything in

605
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: four years, he never wants to be backed into a

606
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: corner ever. Ever, I want to ask you a question

607
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: as a head coach. Coach, So Frank Wright came out

608
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: on Monday and announced that Marlon Mack will not play

609
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: against the Titans on Sunday due to his hand surgery.

610
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: He went ahead and made that announcement. If you're a

611
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 1: head coach, which you were, what what leads you to

612
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: go ahead and make that announcement on Monday instead of

613
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: making the Titans, wait through the week or vice versa.

614
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: What leads you to that decision? Well, when you look,

615
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: I know he wasn't going to play. They fractured his hand,

616
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: all right. I mean, just if you're in the league

617
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: long enough, which all of us have been, and we've

618
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: got sophisticated listeners to this, you knew he wasn't going

619
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Speaker 1: to play. So you're not. You're not. Everybody knew it anyway,

620
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: So there's now if there's a question, if there's a

621
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: legitimate question, or if there's a chance not, then you don't.

622
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: But something as evident as that, I mean, it makes

623
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: no difference because I mean I knew sitting down here,

624
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: you knew it. I mean, we all knew it. So

625
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: just take it off the table. Take it off the table, okay.

626
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, it's one less thing to

627
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: have to think about. Interesting. I just wondered what went

628
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Speaker 1: behind the mindset of going ahead and say because some

629
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: coaches don't say anything, Well, and you don't have to.

630
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to. You don't have to. Some coaches

631
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: like that game more than other coaches. That's true. That's

632
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: a good point, Aimy. Some people just don't care for

633
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
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Speaker 1: Duncan's taking a twist on a classic creating a brand

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Speaker 1: new way for you to start your day. So get up,

641
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Speaker 1: get out, and get into a Duncan for a plant

642
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Speaker 1: based boost to your mornings and start the day. The

643
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,760
Speaker 1: plant based way America runs on Duncan. So what's brewing

644
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: with me? Is this article that I was reading about

645
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Eagles right guard Brandon Brooks. Yes, they were playing on

646
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Seattle Seahawks. He made it about a

647
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: series and then was out the rest of the game

648
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: due to illness. Turns out this illness is anxiety related.

649
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: He has very severe anxiety that manifests itself within his

650
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: body as being physically ill. He's battled this for a

651
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: couple of years. Is what it looks like. He seems

652
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: some treatment things got a little better. It's coming back.

653
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I am so impressed by in Brooks and the way

654
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: that he has been very open about it. He went

655
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: on social media sent out this big, long string of

656
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 1: tweets saying, listen, I have anxiety. Here's what was going

657
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Speaker 1: on with me. I appreciate you guys sticking by me,

658
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: but this is what it is. I think that in

659
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: a league that is so focused on the health of

660
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: their players, one of the things that isn't talked about

661
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: a lot is mental health. We talk about brain health

662
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: and concussions and making sure that guys stay safe in

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00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: that way, but we don't talk about the amount of

664
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: pressure and stress and the grind that is a National

665
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: Football League season. And I think that it is so

666
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm brave as a word that kind of gets oh okay,

667
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: But I think that it's really awesome that Brandon Brooks

668
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: is willing to talk about this, say that it's something

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00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: he has and that he's dealing with, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: take away from him being tough or capable as a

671
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: player or anything like that, but it's something he's dealing with.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that this encouraging is more guys who

673
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: might be struggling with things like this to actually go

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00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: get help and find a way to treat it as

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00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: opposed to just toughing through it. I mean, that's such

676
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: a great point, and it was you presented that very well,

677
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: and I agree with that. I agree with that because

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Speaker 1: let me tell you this, I've been involved in over

679
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: six hundred and fifty NFL games. I can relate to

680
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: the stress. I can relate to the stress, and it's real,

681
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 1: and it was real for me, you know when I

682
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: started in the league when I was thirty one years old.

683
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: These guys, these guys are young guys that I mean,

684
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 1: it's it's constant stress. And the thing that you bring

685
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: up with that, I mean, it's real. And that has

686
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: gone on in this league before and it has not

687
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: been reported. And I think that's a great, great point,

688
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: and I admire it too, I really do. Usually he's

689
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: so nervous, he throws up yeah, and then he calms down.

690
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: And the other day in the game against Seattle, he

691
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: could not calm down and he just basically couldn't get

692
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: a hold of him himself in terms of being able

693
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Speaker 1: to center back in and so he I think it's

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00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: great that he discusses it in that way. Nerves are

695
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: a big thing. But I mean, you know, that's a

696
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: that's a tough job, and I admire what he did.

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00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes, you know, being macho is being willing

698
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Speaker 1: to admit you got some issues. There you go, Well,

699
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: that's a vomit in this show. Though, sorry about that, guys.

700
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Speaker 1: It didn't really mean to bring all of that upon us.

701
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: But coach Mack, what's brewing with you? Thanksgiving? Yes, and

702
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: the NFL has Thanksgiving Day games, three games. Let me

703
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: tell you why. Okay, Detroit's been hosting the Thanksgiving Day

704
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Speaker 1: games since nineteen thirty four. All right, the Cowboys have

705
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: been hosting since nineteen sixty six. The reason Detroit got

706
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: it their original owner, George Richards was the Lions owner.

707
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: He owned w j R NBC radio, and he wanted

708
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: he couldn't get anybody of the game on Sundays, so

709
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: he wanted to get some more people. And he thought

710
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day with a great thing to do to do that,

711
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: all right, And then in nineteen sixty six the Cowboys

712
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: came on board. But in seventy five to seventy seven,

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00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Pete Roselle wanted the St. Louis Cardinals to be in

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Speaker 1: this home rotation for the Midwest, all right. And the

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00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: thing that threw a wrench in that, Amy Wells is

716
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Speaker 1: a Missouri girl. There's a game played in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: I've recruited Saint Louis. I've been to this game. Their

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Speaker 1: Kirkwood Webster Groves game is a Thanksgiving Day game that

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Speaker 1: has been played there forever. And so the people in

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Speaker 1: Saint Louis wanted Webster Groves more than they wanted the

721
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Speaker 1: Cardinal game on and so then it went back to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys the Lions and the Cowboys will always host

723
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: a game. In two thousand and six, the third game

724
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: was added, all right to play. It was part of

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00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: the Thursday Night package to begin with, then it shifted

726
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: to the Sunday Night package, and then we've got it now.

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Speaker 1: So that's why we have Detroit and Dallas always hosting

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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: a thanks Giving Day game. I played in three of them.

729
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: I've coaching three up since I him in the league.

730
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety one Bears versus Detroit. We lost sixteen to six.

731
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Speaker 1: Dicka wasn't happy. I was. I was scared. Nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: three Bears versus Detroit. We won ten to six. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, had a lot of fun. Two thousand and

734
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Speaker 1: eight Tennessee versus Detroit, we won forty seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Got all the turduckan legs, all right. So Dave Ball game,

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Speaker 1: Dave Ball game. So that right there is why there

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Speaker 1: are three Thanksgiving Day games which I think are great

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. What's Brewing from Dave McGinnis

739
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: a history lesson what's brewing the great Jim Wyatt, but

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: is more of a question. Curious about your opinions on

741
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: this play from Sunday, the Yannick and Gockway hit on

742
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: Taylor Lewan. Was that a dirty hit? If you watch

743
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Speaker 1: the play, you know Lawan is moving the pile and

744
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: in Gockway kind of box up where he could get

745
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: in a position to hit Lawe from the side and

746
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: clearly like injured his midsection rib area, could have hit

747
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Speaker 1: him from the bike. That's a legal hits, as Mike

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00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Rabel pointed out yesterday, and the press cone would be

749
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: decided to come from the side and get a hit

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Speaker 1: on him. I don't think he'll get fine for that necessarily,

751
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: and that we've seen players do that in games. But

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00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: is that a dirty hit? Yes? I thought it was dirty.

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Speaker 1: Well do you think, coach Mike, Yeah, he lined him

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00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: up to do it. If he definitely sized him. If

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00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: you'd have gotten in the scrum and started pushing, which

756
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: is legal on both sides, by the way, But when

757
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: you back up and line somebody up to go spear him,

758
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: that's a dirty hit. Yeah, it was a shot. It

759
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: was a very clear shot. Like he was, he was

760
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: setting it up and he wanted to do something. He

761
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: wasn't just pushing the pile. He was trying to separate

762
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: his rib cage, which he did a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: of it. You know when you knocked here having a

764
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: hard time getting his breath, wasn't he Yeah, he was

765
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: having a hard time, and everyone kept trying to come

766
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: over and help him, take him into the tent, kind

767
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: of check it out and make sure. He said, no,

768
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I just need some air. And I think he didn't

769
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: mean people not talking to him. I think he actually

770
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: needed oxygen coming into his body. But yeah, I mean

771
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 1: it was bothering him for the rest of the game.

772
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Taylor, the one he's going to play through.

773
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, his arm could be laying in the middle

774
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: of the field and he's going to try and play,

775
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: but it was clearly bothering him. He really played a

776
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: good game. He did play a game, really good game

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00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: for Taylor. One I would tay someone else he did too,

778
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: And it's big in this league and we used to

779
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: emphasize it a lot. Every coach I've ever worked for

780
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: when I was a head coach, he emphasized it because

781
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: this is this is an emotional game. It's a violent game,

782
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: and the best thing that you can do to help

783
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: your football team once it starts getting chippy, which it's

784
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna get and it gets more so with some opponents

785
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: and others, is walk away. He walked away, which was huge,

786
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: and in the past we bought to seen him getting

787
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: in a fight after that because there was some chatter.

788
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: He knew what had happened. I don't think he realized

789
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: the extent of it until maybe he saw it on

790
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: the board. But he realized what had happened and was

791
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: doing some little chatter and I expect them to come

792
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: back and maybe retaliating. He didn't, So Matt, you got

793
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: to give him credit for that. Like coach Mike said,

794
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: what's brewing with me is good football in Clarksville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the Austin p Governors Ohigh Valley Conference champions

796
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen seventy seven. The Tennessee

797
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Titans have so many friends at Austin p in Clarksville,

798
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: people who have been supportive of us. We did training

799
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: camp there in two thousand and six. We've done other

800
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Titans events up there. Every time we brought the caravan

801
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: up there. It's been huge. Montgomery County has a goodly

802
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: number of Titan season ticket members. We are so appreciative,

803
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: but to that community, to the different administrators and athletic

804
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: directors who have made it happen for a period of time,

805
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: and the group who's just come in, Gerald Harrison, who

806
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: is an outstanding young athletic director, Coach Hud Smith who's

807
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: come in and led the team this year. The fact

808
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: that they win nine games for the first time in

809
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: school history, they win the OVC, and they will host

810
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Furman on Saturday in an FCS playoff game. Way to go, Governors,

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00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: Way to go Austin PE, and thank you for your

812
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: friendship over the years. It's great to see something really

813
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: good happen to Austin p Football. I like that. I'm

814
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: thankful for that. Yeah, I like that a lot. And

815
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm thankful for here too. When we went to Austin

816
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: p Yes, for the training kids. They are a unique experience. Listen,

817
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: they every time I go to Clarksville, they say, when

818
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: are you coming back? Some of the best meeting rooms

819
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: I've ever been in in my life. Really, they were unbelievable.

820
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: It was set up so well and one of the

821
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: best throws I've ever seen a head coach make with

822
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: a cell phone in my life. Really, because we were

823
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: we were we got time for this story. We were

824
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: we were in a large meeting room that had big,

825
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: big wooden beams across the top. I mean, it was

826
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: an impressive meeting room, real long, I mean. And Jeff

827
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Fisher got up and made his you know, his his

828
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: his usual speech and not many rules, but no cell

829
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: phones in the in the in the meetings. And we

830
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: had a receiver Mike Keith, he might remember his name,

831
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: a little short receiver from North Carolina State. He's sitting

832
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: in the front row and his phone goes off about

833
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: maybe two minutes after Jeff Fisher made this announcement. Jeff goes,

834
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: is that yours? And you know guy about to pass out,

835
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: about to cry, Yes, sir, let me have it. So

836
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Speaker 1: he gets it and he looks at it. He takes

837
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: about three crow hops like he's thrown from center field

838
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: to home to home plate and fires the thing. I'm

839
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: sitting next to Keith Bullock. It hits about the third

840
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: beam at the top of this thing and shatters all

841
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: over the room, shrapnel going everywhere. Keith Bullock ducks downs,

842
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: laying in my seat, and Fish went, okay, let's go

843
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: on with the meeting. No more celliers. That's pretty great

844
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: in Austin p And he just went on with the meeting. Yes,

845
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: he said, okay. I mean, what else do you do

846
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: at that point? You don't clean it up. I guarantee

847
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: you dudes were scrambling for their phones to turn them off.

848
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: The only thing that would really fit is if you

849
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: had a story about someone throwing up. I am thankful

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