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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio Hello, Hello, Hello, there. It is Ashley

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Speaker 1: and today I am not joined by Mr Ben Higgins,

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Speaker 1: but I am here with one of the summer's biggest

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Speaker 1: reality stars, John Paul Jones is and it's his first

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Speaker 1: time on the famous podcast. Super excited. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me, Ashley. He's here looking just like a Disney

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Speaker 1: prince the way that we've always imagined him to look.

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten that before here and there? Because like,

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Speaker 1: you literally look like a cartoon that you're like James

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Speaker 1: Marzin and enchanted when he pops out of the cartoon

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Speaker 1: and he's a real life human. That's so funny here

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Speaker 1: and there. I don't know some of you Bachelor people

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Speaker 1: tend to bring that up. I think it's funny, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't want to look like a Disney print.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the first time we Matt, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: just kind of ran look like just so much enthusiasm

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Speaker 1: towards Jared, who at the time was that was my fiance.

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Speaker 1: We were at Crystal and Chris's wedding in Paradise, and

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Speaker 1: you didn't care about anyone else there except for Jared

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Speaker 1: and tell everybody why that was. Yeah. Sure, So I'm

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Speaker 1: not really familiar. I don't consider myself a Bachelor person.

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Speaker 1: I don't I'd never really frequently watched the show, but

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Speaker 1: Jared is one of the very few people I do

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Speaker 1: remember from Caitlin Bristow season. My sisters watched it incessantly

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Speaker 1: during the summer, and for whatever reason, I just remember

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Speaker 1: his face because he kind of looks like Tom Cruise,

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Speaker 1: doesn't he probably absolutely he has a sharper jaw on

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, you know, like you know, he's huge, like

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Speaker 1: rear cheekbones, you know, just he's just a memorable guy.

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Speaker 1: And he's one of the few people I remembered from

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Speaker 1: the show, and I was just excited to see him.

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Speaker 1: I think he took if I remember properly, I think

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Speaker 1: he took a pretty hard loss on the Caitlin Bristow season.

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Speaker 1: I just remember him, you know, he was top four.

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Speaker 1: He definitely had you know, sentimental goodbye. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: that's the only thing I remember from that season, and

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Speaker 1: he's I couldn't tell you who else was on his season,

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Speaker 1: but I remember Jared. That is so sweet and you

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Speaker 1: don't even know how much you made his day month

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Speaker 1: a year by calling he he may. I remember after

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Speaker 1: the first episode of The Bachelorette he deemed me and

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Speaker 1: I was totally blood Yeah. I think it was the

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Speaker 1: first episode, and uh, you know, I didn't really get

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Speaker 1: that much attention after that, but Jared DMed me and

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Speaker 1: told me like, hey, you're Ashley and his favorite whatever,

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Speaker 1: and I was just really I was really flattered by

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Speaker 1: It's he's a he's a good guy. I'd keep him around.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for life, commitment for life. I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: say that. Congratulations, thank you formally addressed for congratulation you,

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Speaker 1: but you just I mean, Tom Cruise is one of

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Speaker 1: his top three man crushes. I think Tom Cruise is

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Speaker 1: sort of the epitome of like man status. I think

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Speaker 1: like every guy growing up wants to be Tom Cruise

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Speaker 1: and your significant other happens to look Will always say.

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Speaker 1: And it's really funny because he's sounds so much like him,

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Speaker 1: especially when he gets passionate. If he's like really ranting

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Speaker 1: about something, it's like Jerry McGuire. Yeah, and I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome. Okay, so did you watch the

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Speaker 1: episode last night? I did, I'm familiar with some of

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Speaker 1: the key highlights from it. I don't think I'll be

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Speaker 1: able to keep up with all the names, but that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm looking through my notes right now and

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that there's really only like four names that

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Speaker 1: you really need to know. How about Maddie. How do

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Speaker 1: you feel about Maddie? Because I want to start with

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Speaker 1: a little gossip going on in the world about Maddie.

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Speaker 1: Could you please give me a little filler? Okay, So

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Speaker 1: Maddie was on the one on one last week. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what. Oh, I really liked her. She was

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Speaker 1: really reserved, you know during the whole wedding vow um

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Speaker 1: exchange and what was it um? Yeah, she was. She

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Speaker 1: didn't draw any unnecessary attention to herself. She kind of

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Speaker 1: respected the whole process of you know, getting to know

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Speaker 1: Pete's family without being too overbearing and you know, kind

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Speaker 1: at me, I'm on this reality TV show and ading

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Speaker 1: your son whatever. She didn't really try too hard. There

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Speaker 1: their math about Maddie last week. Yeah, can I ask

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Speaker 1: you a question real quick? That the girl who walked

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Speaker 1: up to Pete and put a blindfold on him immediately

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Speaker 1: he started making out with him. What do you think

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Speaker 1: would have happened if somebody from my season did that

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Speaker 1: to Hannah? Oh? Oh, I don't know him go to

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Speaker 1: little submissive in that respect. I don't think he's gonna,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought maybe there could be a

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Speaker 1: double standard. There usually double standards when it comes to

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Speaker 1: with doing that with Hannah Brown, but I that was

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Speaker 1: a risky move. I both admired it and just kind

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Speaker 1: of made me ponder, you know, the guy did that

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Speaker 1: was a risky anyway. Anyway, you have to admire and

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Speaker 1: the question. At the same time, it was interesting, you know, Peter,

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Speaker 1: you spent weeks with him on the show. Tell us

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Speaker 1: a little bit about him that you don't think that

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Speaker 1: we would know. Yeah, well, I think Pete's very established

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Speaker 1: in his career as a pilot. You know, he's twenty

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Speaker 1: been single for a while. So I think this is

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Speaker 1: find someone that he really cares about. He's very passionate

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Speaker 1: about flying um and you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's really ready to find someone to share his life with.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's nice to see somebody who

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Speaker 1: is so passionate about their career become the Bachelor, and

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Speaker 1: you know that he's going to go right back to it. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at his Instagram stories. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: when when he's not flying commercially, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: he's clearly flying these cool little like propeller planes, and

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Speaker 1: I mean you can tell the guys really passionate about

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Speaker 1: I think he's ready to share that passion with someone.

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Speaker 1: He's very passionate. The way that he kisses a girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: reins when it comes to romance totally. And yeah, we

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Speaker 1: we talked to p Yes last weekend. He was saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know, on an off day, he'll just go fly.

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Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing in the world. That's I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's badass. I mean who can do that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean people that are incredibly established in their career

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Speaker 1: in the evening. Frank Sinatra talks about that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Right to come fly with me. I'm pretty sure that's

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Speaker 1: what he Pretty sure that's what he did, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I like, you know, they don't have to write to

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Speaker 1: that song, because you imagine if they did. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know, But the point being a pizza

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Speaker 1: cool guy. If he if he can just kind of

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Speaker 1: get back to Maddie now, who you know want us

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Speaker 1: all over last week? But then there was some awkwardness

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Speaker 1: that happened on Thursday. Do you hear about this account? Yes,

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Speaker 1: so Bachelor sleuthors, this is an Instagram account. They did

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Speaker 1: some detective work over the past week. Um and this

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Speaker 1: past Thursday, Mattie Prue, you know at Maddie Prue on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: commented under at Maddie Prue's photo, saying, beautiful date, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: you are so genuine and real. Now on Instagram you

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Speaker 1: go to your other account. I didn't switch back and forth,

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Speaker 1: so like we do it with our dog. We did it.

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Speaker 1: We had to many pictures like that were just treasures

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Speaker 1: lying around to share them. Okay, So it seems as

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Speaker 1: if you know whoever wrote this comment under Maddie's Instagram

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Speaker 1: Maddie's count because it would be kind of weird to

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Speaker 1: wind up posting in the future that's true, like does

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Speaker 1: We don't even know that there is a cafan account.

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Speaker 1: That's the speculation part. Okay, the speculate. It's very hard

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Speaker 1: to describe, guys, But the speculation is that Maddie on

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Speaker 1: Now I can guarantee you I don't spend my time

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't really see how that could

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Speaker 1: I wish you the best, Maddie. Look if you if

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Speaker 1: you did it, Um, I'm sorry. Looks a little bit

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Speaker 1: that about yourself. I think it's less honestly, I think

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Speaker 1: it's less of her having a fan account that she's running,

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Speaker 1: and more so what the comment said, right right, right.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are much worse things

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Speaker 1: you could do. There are. There are a hell of

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Speaker 1: a lot worse things out there, Maddie. So the grand

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Speaker 1: scheme of things, like I think you know you'll look

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Speaker 1: don't know. But also, yes, in the grand scheme of things,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be forgotten after this conversation on the podcast, right,

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Speaker 1: But I have one more thing to add about it,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't just end at that. It seems as

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Speaker 1: if a friend appears to take credit for the Instagram

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Speaker 1: I thought I wrote that comment about being really or

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Speaker 1: friend from my accounts. I was locked in to Maddie

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Speaker 1: when she got back from filming. Don't hate me at

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Speaker 1: Maddie Prue. That is awfully specific and very Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: know someone is clearly trying to bail her out whatever.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Maddie, You're not We're not charging your

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Speaker 1: We got nothing. Well, that's why we're going to tune

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Speaker 1: right right? Like why didn't you join? Well we all

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Speaker 1: That's like, I don't even think nobody said that you

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Speaker 1: the episode conflicted on what to do because hannah An

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00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: is telling him that Kelsey bullied, and then Kelsey is saying,

425
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 1: that's not how it went down at all. We definitely

426
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: I may have said some mean things, but it wasn't bullying.

427
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: What do you think Peter does in a situation like this?

428
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: Knowing what we've seen from Peter, I think he'll probably

429
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 1: hear both sides out. I mean, if it was me,

430
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: I probably would just dismiss the whole thing and make

431
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: them hash it out themselves. It's not something that I

432
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: think he really wants to deal with, but I think he'll,

433
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, probably hear him out and he'll be able to,

434
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: you know, get an idea for who's the one complaining

435
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: and you know who who's really How can you tell

436
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 1: who's innocent who's truthful? I think he has to start

437
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: talking to the other girls about their feelings about It

438
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: just gets messy and you take away time from getting

439
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: to know other people. I think I think Peter should

440
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: just make them hash it amongst themselves. Um yeah, there's

441
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: always some sort of drama like this, and it seems

442
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: like the male lead can never figure out which girl

443
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: is the conniving manipulator, and I know it's impossible. Look you,

444
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: as the bachelor, I think you have to be the

445
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: true judge of character. You can't allow anybody else to

446
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: sort of speak for themselves. You just kind of have

447
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: to let your relationships with the other girls, like uh

448
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: sort of find themselves. Um yeah, I think Peter should

449
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: just stay away from, uh questioning all the other girls

450
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: that they just never it just never turns out. Well. Well,

451
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: then I just hope to see Kelsey get some more

452
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: time with him, Yeah, so that she can prove that

453
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: she's you know, that she's a cool chick and not

454
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: this girl who is a bully, because she's not a

455
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: bully in my opinion, I agree. Okay, what do you

456
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: feel about do you feel do you have any feelings

457
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: towards McKenna Because I didn't think I had feelings towards

458
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: McKenna before this episode, but I, um, I now do.

459
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: And I find her annoying and and I don't like

460
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: the way that her friendship with Hannah Anne looks and

461
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: she uses a lot of bachelor speak. Um do I

462
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: have a reason as to why I find her annoying.

463
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: I think it's because of the bachelor speak. I think

464
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 1: it's because she says things like like I'm really excited

465
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: about like our growth on this journey. You know. I

466
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: just don't like it when girls like say all these

467
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: weird things that they think they're supposed to say, because

468
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: they're on the Bachelor, right right, totally agree. Why are

469
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: you doing that? McKenna, don't do that? All right? We

470
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: have to talk about Victoria F when we get back,

471
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: and of course interview J p J Victoria F. I

472
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: like Victoria too. Yeah, she's also very pretty. I find

473
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: her really relatable. I like how honest she was about

474
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: how uncomfortable she was about the whole process, because it's

475
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: such an uncomfortable process. It's like, yeah, you're just totally

476
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: putting yourself out there and you have no idea how

477
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: you'll be portrayed in front of eight million people. It's brutal.

478
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: And also I found it really hard to start conversations

479
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: because you don't have like you know, when you're on

480
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: a date in real life, you're like, oh, I can

481
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: talk about the food. Oh I can talk about like

482
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: what I see on the Like you literally could come

483
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: up with anything, but they're in the Bachelor mention, like

484
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: that's all you feel like you can for two stuff

485
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: that's going on in the bubble, right, No, but no,

486
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: that's all in your head. I mean you can come up.

487
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: You can come up in my head, you can you

488
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: can come up with anything, like they didn't super random,

489
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: Like everything you come up is super randomly. You'd be like, so,

490
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: what's your favorite food? But you're not going to have

491
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: food in front of you. No. No, It's just so

492
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: tricky because what people don't understand what's so tricky about

493
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: this is that the objective is to find your spouse,

494
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: and you have not only that, but you have to

495
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: find a way to seduce them. You know, initially there

496
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: has to be an immediate almost romantic or like uh

497
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 1: intimate Uh yeah, exactly, And it's very difficult to create

498
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: those moments. And you have to do that while there's

499
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 1: a camera on you. You don't get to practice beforehand.

500
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: You don't there's no one between times, there's no small

501
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: talk exactly how long you're going to have It could

502
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: be like two minutes, it could be ten exactly, And

503
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: during that time period you have to somehow make this

504
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 1: person interested in you romantically. That's very difficult to do

505
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: with a bunch of cameras around. So I had I liked.

506
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: I like Victoria a lot for being honest about this

507
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: and how she says that she struggled. She has confidence

508
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: that she was that she struggles with often she's shy,

509
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: with guys, and then I love that she was so

510
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: open about that and then she really bucked up and

511
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: she rocked it on the Runway. She was runner up

512
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: or runner up on the Runway Challenge challenge with Hannah

513
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Ann and Hannah was well. Of course she won because

514
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: she's an actual professional model, But I think that Victoria

515
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: was super sexy. She impressed Peter. She definitely stood out,

516
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: which is no question about it. Yeah, that's what she

517
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: That was her goal. She's like, I'm going to get

518
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: my stuff together and I'm going to make him remember me.

519
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, I want to like her. I do like

520
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: her from what I've seen. However, spoilers and I will

521
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: say this spoiler alert you guys thirty seconds. If you

522
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: really don't want to know anything about these contestants from

523
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: off the show, you can skip the next thirty seconds.

524
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: But spoilers are saying that she has broken up friends

525
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: marriages before. Um. Spoiler sites are saying that they have

526
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: never gotten as many negative comments about a contestant before.

527
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: So if she hasn't breaking up marriages in Virginia Beach,

528
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 1: I would say that maybe this is an insecurity problem

529
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: and that she's you know, that's an insecurity problem, and

530
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to like deep dive too deep into

531
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: her psyche especially. These are just rumors, but that's what's

532
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: flowing around out there. And she did say on November

533
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: twenty two on Instagram, it seems like that's the week

534
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: that I think the show wrapped filming. She posted an

535
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: Instagram saying that the rumors out there are false and

536
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: there will be a time and place where I can

537
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: defend myself, but for now I choose to wait only. Yeah, yeah,

538
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: we also how you know, Jed's a good friend of mine,

539
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: but we all saw that. We all saw how that

540
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: happened with Jed. Yeah. Anyway, if it's the case and

541
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: there's truth to the rumors, then I hope that you

542
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: know she doesn't make his top two can make that

543
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: whole complication again. Certainly, we have some honorable mentions about

544
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: the episode that I just want to run down on

545
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: this list of mine before I get to the most

546
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: uncomfortable interview JPJ has ever had. I seriously doubt that,

547
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: I seriously doubt that this is nothing. This is a

548
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: Navy affiliate, right, I mean, if you're not, and you

549
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: were embarrassed to say that how bad could it actually be?

550
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: Trust meesome, Let's go honorable mentions real quick. I really

551
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: like Natasha's realness in this episode. She's the oldest girl

552
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: on the show, and I think it shows. Uh, Kelsey

553
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: is a professional cloth and I can. I just want

554
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to say that she can clothe me anytime she wants,

555
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: because that girl's outfits were amazed with. I also found

556
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: redhead Lexi really cool. She had like a nice, authentic,

557
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: flirty experience with him. It didn't seem like um they

558
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: were floating on TV. It just seemed like really natural.

559
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: I really like that. And then Sydney got the group

560
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: date rose after speaking about her strength for just not

561
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: feeling in place in the place that she grew up,

562
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: which was Alabama. All right, John, I first question for

563
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: you is why didn't work out for you and Tasia?

564
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Literally the week you moved out to California for her. Yeah,

565
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I just think that you know, the you know, the

566
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: way in which we met, it was just sort of forced,

567
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I just think we both kind of

568
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: realized that we weren't right for each other. And yeah,

569
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that, but your head over heels

570
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: for her, Yeah, I was what do you mean it

571
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: was forced? The feelings were enforced? You you love it?

572
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Just did you say I love you? I did? Okay? Um,

573
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think you know, the in which

574
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: you meet up it's pretty important because I just think

575
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure at the time, and

576
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 1: I think it was a lot for both of us

577
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: to handle. And so I think we did the right

578
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: thing by splitting October all right, So you just weren't

579
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: compatible in the real world, basically, I think, so why doubt,

580
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's what happened was unfortunate, But you

581
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: know what, she's so beautiful, she's so charismatic. I'm not

582
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: worried about her. She's going to do great things. Um.

583
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: And it was probably the best thing to split when

584
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: we did, honestly, because I think we just jumped into

585
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: it too quickly. Then why did you decide to move

586
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: to California? Well, obviously that that was a poll, right.

587
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: My girlfriend at the time went here, and I was

588
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: lucky that after b I p there was a talent

589
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: agent that spotted me and started submitting me for work modeling,

590
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: no acting, and uh, what was it? I was working?

591
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: So I was doing you know, kind of the whole

592
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: Instagram thing, you know. And I had a full time

593
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: job at the time. You know, it was really busy.

594
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: You know, we were getting ready to close up Q

595
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: three at the time. Uh. You know, you know, I work,

596
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I worked for a public working throughout the airing apparent. Yeah,

597
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: it was, it was and that was a lot um

598
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: and uh. But at the same time, you know what

599
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: was in August, a talent agent, uh, you know, and

600
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: in Hollywood reached out to me and started submitting me

601
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: for work. And I had to fly out, you know

602
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: on Mondays to go audition for these things. And I

603
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: get the call Friday, prepare all week and then going

604
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: Monday and tell my boss, hey, look, I'm sorry, but

605
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: there's an opportunity I can't pass up. I'm not going

606
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: to be here on Monday. And it just became, you know,

607
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: too frequent that I was leaving work to go do this,

608
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm not going to pass up an opportunity

609
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: to you know, go act for one of these you know,

610
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: exciting roles. Um. You know, I studied acting in college

611
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: and so um, you know, I under I have an

612
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: understanding of the craft, but you know, I have a

613
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: much better appreciation and understanding for it after you know,

614
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: going through so many auditions, But I just wasn't I

615
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: think you'd be a fool to pass up some of

616
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: the opportunities I've been. Yeah, I totally understand that. So, um,

617
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: what were you doating before him? Wasn't finance? Yeah, it

618
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: was a financial analyst at a publicly traded education technology company.

619
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: And um, again, like it was a lot like working

620
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: the show, going on the back end of the show, right,

621
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: it was a lot, and I was you know, I

622
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: got to a point where I was a little bit overwhelmed,

623
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: but it wasn't fair to my team, and I was

624
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: taking off so much work. I took off two months,

625
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, a month for the Bats were at, a

626
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: month for Paradise, Uh, during filming, and I went back

627
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: to work, you know, immediately after filming. So uh, that

628
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: was kind of rough. There was no buffer period in

629
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: between like getting off the show and going back to work,

630
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: like I you know, I remember just being destroyed on

631
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: the last day of Paradise and then going into work

632
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: the next day. It was just so brutal. Uh. But anyway, Um, yeah,

633
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: work throughout the entire time. Did you have to have

634
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: you had success with your audition so far any of

635
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: them do you have. Do you giving yourself a timeline

636
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to like pursue acting and then maybe go back to

637
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: your regular life if nothing happens. Yeah, for sure. So

638
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: I have a have a gig coming up in February.

639
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: Got really lucky with something I'm under contry act so

640
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: I can't really talk about it, but really really excited

641
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and fortunate to have it. And I just did a

642
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: short film over the weekend that was a lot of fun.

643
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: Um And yeah, it wasn't. I totally caught me by surprise. Uh,

644
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was crazy. I never

645
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: could have expected this. Cool. Well, sounds like you've a

646
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: pretty busy life out here in Hollywood. Have you gone

647
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: on a date since Tatia? You know what, I don't

648
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: really talk about my personal life, John, You don't come

649
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: on the show if you don't talk. I have, I've

650
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: I've I've been on I've been on a few. Okay,

651
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: how did you meet those ladies? Um? So, I met

652
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: one of them through my cousin who lives in Santa Monica,

653
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: and I don't know, we just kind of looked at

654
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: each other one night at the Victorian and I didn't

655
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: quite get to talk to her enough. But because she

656
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: knew my cousin, somehow, I don't know, I was able

657
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: to track her down via Instagram through the information that

658
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: my cousin gave me. This is not me stalking her

659
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: and she knows this. So uh, Yeah, I met her

660
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: just by sort of locking eyes when they ended a

661
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: bar and it's and you started out via Instagram DM. No,

662
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: so I introduced myself into a Victorian. Yes, but then

663
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: you started conversing. Well, I couldn't. I couldn't ask out.

664
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: Why didn't you ask out? Because I don't know, some

665
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: somebody whisked her away and started talking to it. It

666
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: sounds like the Bachelor. I don't know. I don't know.

667
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Something something happened that I think. I was out with

668
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Connor Salley that night and uh and some of the

669
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: other Bachelor guys, and for whatever reason, fate took us

670
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: to another location and I get to finish that. Yeah,

671
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: we got yeah, like trated down. We got coffee shortly there.

672
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: It was great. Yeah. Are you still seeing her? I've been,

673
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: I do, I do, I do? I do? For sure?

674
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: All right, have you met anyone else? Um since breaking

675
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: up with Tasia? I here and there a little you know,

676
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: little little little coffee dates and things of that nature

677
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: come up. White coffee dates. I know this is a

678
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: new thing. I don't. I guess it's not anything. But

679
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: people do coffee because it's like short and cleansing during

680
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: the day, and you will take too much time out

681
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: of your life exactly. And I think it's the perfect

682
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: buffer period between like getting to know someone going on

683
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: a date. I think if you've just met someone and

684
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: wanted to dinner the next day, that's you know, there's

685
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot of expectation placed on that dinner because it's

686
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: usually very romantic setting. But coffee is just quick and

687
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: it's a great way to you know, kind of get

688
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: to know somebody deeper and to assess whether or not

689
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're compatible to an extent. I've got to ask,

690
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: have you talked to anyone who's slid into your d

691
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: M since the show come on? You responded to pretty

692
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: girls and you like here and there, But it's just

693
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: very like cordial and friendly, like oh hey, thanks, you know,

694
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, that kind of thing. So you've

695
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: never met up with a girl who see, you've never

696
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: dated a fan? No, Okay, all right, Um, you and Derek,

697
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: let's imagine, let's go back time. It wasn't good called him,

698
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: You called him creepy, manipulative, towards women. Um. And you

699
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 1: know you made fun of him having a podcast and

700
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: you thought he was there for just the wrong reasons.

701
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Do you think in hindsight a lot of it was

702
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: coming out of jealousy or you still stand behind like

703
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: the fact. No, I just think I was so emotional

704
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: during that period time period, and I was so like

705
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: emotionally invested in Patia, and you know, I was very

706
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: sleep deprived, and I just think I let that get

707
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: the best of me. Um again, like what you just

708
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: said that, I think that was pure emotion, um, you know,

709
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: not really based in fact. I was just I think

710
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: at the time, I was just really annoyed that I

711
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: didn't think he was taking his relationship with Demi seriously,

712
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: Like it just didn't really. I think collectively, we you know,

713
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: the group thought like it just wasn't like a real thing.

714
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: You know, it just kind of seemed like a fun thing.

715
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: And I was I was very serious about Tatia, and

716
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I think I was just kind of at the end

717
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: of my rope at that point. I get it. I

718
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: totally get it. If you and Derek found yourself in

719
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: the same room today, how do you imagine it going down. Look,

720
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: he's I think he's a really he's a really talented guy.

721
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean he's the senior VP of a like a

722
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: fin tech startup. Uh, you know, I'd like to see

723
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: him shake his hand and you know, put the whole

724
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: thing aside. I hope he's doing well. You know, he's

725
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: a good dude. It's just it's just unfortunate what happened. Uh.

726
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: You know, I was just overly entranced with this woman,

727
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: and um, I just let my emotions get the best

728
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: of me at the time. If you guys do find

729
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: yourself in the same room, would you probably will, because

730
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: in this bachelor family, you tend to find yourself in

731
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: the same places. I want you to go up and

732
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: say that to him. I want to know how he responds,

733
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: because we asked him the same question this past weekend

734
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and he seemed like he just would kind of pretend

735
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: like you weren't there. Oh hey, but I want you

736
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: to try that. Yeah. Sure. I mean, if I ever

737
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,720
Speaker 1: find myself in the same room, I'll say hi, Derek.

738
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: If you're listening. I hope you're doing well. Man. Uh,

739
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: didn't mean anything by the whole Bachelor in Paradise interaction.

740
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: You is you in a public apology to Crystal and

741
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: Chris after the whole scene at their wedding. Why did

742
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: you make it a public apology? Why didn't you just

743
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: get their number? Yeah, that's a good question because I

744
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: think so many people running the impression that I was

745
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: intentionally trying to steal the attention from their wedding, and

746
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I just I didn't even like consider the fact that

747
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: I was at a wedding at the time, because we

748
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: were on TV. What I mean, I think people's problem

749
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: was that you didn't consider that it was at a wedding.

750
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: I don't think people thought that you did it on

751
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: purpose to get attention. Again, completely blinded by my emotions

752
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: at the time, just my guard was down. You know,

753
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: I would sleep deprived. I went for a mile swim

754
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: that morning. Uh you know I did. Yeah, we're dangerous,

755
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: but it was it was fun and I was actually

756
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: supposed to do a half iron Man during Paradise. I

757
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: was competing with one of my buddies at work, and

758
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: so I wanted to stay in good shape in case,

759
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, he wanted to do one afterwards, and so anyway,

760
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: I was point being completely exhausted. Guard was down. You know,

761
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: the stakes were high in terms of my feelings for

762
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: this woman, and I just let my emotions get the

763
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: best of me. Would you say that bachelor experiences perhaps

764
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: are not for you because you do kind of get

765
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: too emotional in those moments. I mean, look, um, I'm

766
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: really grateful for the experience, and I learned a lot

767
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: in the process. I didn't think I could find my

768
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: breaking point on what I thought was a silly reality

769
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: show at the time. Um, but after having gone through

770
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: the experience, I definitely have to, you know, think more

771
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: deeply about ever doing it again. In September, you said

772
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: that you would never do Paradise again. How do you

773
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: feel a couple of months removed. Yeah, I think I'd

774
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: really have to think about it. Okay, So you're not

775
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: crossing it off, right, Okay, I don't think. I don't

776
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: think you should cross it off. Ever. Again, I think

777
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: i'd really I really really like what I'm doing right now,

778
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: and again I think i'd really have to think about it.

779
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people would want to

780
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: see you back, and I know I don't know, but

781
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 1: I am quite certain that you'll be getting a call

782
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: from producers in a couple of months to see if

783
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you're interested. Well, we'll cross that bridge when it gets there.

784
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: Now that you've been a little bit more entrenched in

785
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: post bachelor life, do you feel like you understand and

786
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: relate to the lifestyle that Derek was talking about that

787
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: day when you overheard him or do you still feel

788
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: like what you overheard him hearing that day was inappropriate? No? No, no, Um,

789
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I I can relate to it

790
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: to an extent because you know, I mean, Bachelor Nation

791
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: fans are amazing. But you know you're putting some weird

792
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: situations and people like totally throw themselves at you. So

793
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely can relate to it a little more. Alright,

794
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: good answers, John, We have a little game now before

795
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: we go and interview Robbie Hayes and he gets the heat. Man,

796
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: But before he gets the heat, you're going to get

797
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: more heat. But now it's not with questions, it's with

798
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: hot sauce. Give me a brace. So everybody fell in

799
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: love with you when you started when when you started

800
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: throwing up basically after having too much hot sauce. Has

801
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: this always been a problem with you? I just have

802
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: a really sensitive stomach, and at the time Jane gave

803
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: me those hot tacos. I think I was just under

804
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: the gun because I felt so uncomfortable being on the

805
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: set of Paradise, and so I think it was a

806
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: little bit of my stomach sensitivity, you know, sort of drinking.

807
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: Probably I didn't really drink that. Ye, like we're just

808
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: running around drunk all the time. It's like, may be surprised,

809
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: We're just this foolish without it. It's just the emotion.

810
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: The steaks and the emotions are high, and that's all

811
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: it is. Um. But yeah, I know I just had

812
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: a really sensitive stomach and I was really anxious at

813
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: the time. Like James a super nice girl. She I

814
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: think she's awesome, but I was kind of thrown off

815
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: by the fact that you want to eat was with

816
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: me after, you know, kind of giving the indicator that

817
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: right right, right, Okay, So we're going to have you

818
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: have a bite of taco with chill lula on it,

819
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: and you know, you could just make your if you

820
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: could make your reaction to it as vocal as possible.

821
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: Would you like me to our listening audience? Okay, that's

822
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: a lot. First, gonna eat one in front of you guys, like, yeah, yeah,

823
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: this is kind of a circus trick, all right, justin

824
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: casey barbs. We're holding two trash cans. But I'm not

825
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna this is Chilula. I mean, you can drink this

826
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: stuff and be fine. Mm hmm. It's a proper taco. Yeah,

827
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 1: it's from Oh yeah, you like it that? Yeah, chi Lula.

828
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Why don't you guys get what you wanted? Is that good? Yeah?

829
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: John takes well to chilulaturned. We are not entertained yet.

830
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: So how do you feel about taracha? Sorry, we're just

831
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: going through the different Yes, yes, you are okay one

832
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah? Who are you? You're supposed to go

833
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: on the wing challenge show? Is it called Hot Wings? Yeah?

834
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: I would love to see you on Hot Wings. You

835
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to speak though. All right, He's going

836
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: to take a bite of the saracha taco. He enjoyed

837
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: the cholula. Interesting, wo saracha in the mouth. Mm hmm. Sweet,

838
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: It's very sweet, tanging leaves you wanting to eat more

839
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: of it. Do you have saracha in your fridge at home?

840
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has it. It's like a stable.

841
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: It's like having ustard and catch up exactly, except it's

842
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: much more dynamic. You can put it on anything pasta,

843
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, macaroni and cheese. Yeah, and literally anything, literally anything.

844
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: Saracha is compatible with any food. I agree. You can

845
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: kick up every fire that has great chemistry. Sauce you're

846
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: going to have here on air is eighteen forty nine,

847
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: hab narrow. Are you ready? Oh gosh you okay? That's good?

848
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: Jeez you waterfall that out? Oh my gosh, holy how man?

849
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 1: All right? So far? Jabe tolerated the spice quite well. Alright,

850
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: last last one a M. I suppose you'd be amused

851
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,439
Speaker 1: if I poked after this, it would be it would

852
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: be good. It would be good content. Thank you. I'm

853
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Are you comfortable throwing up? Though

854
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: it seemed like you're quite comfortable with throwing up on

855
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: the show. I was. I was. One moment you're just

856
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: having a conversation. The next moment you're about to throw up.

857
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: And for me, it's like a whole hour of being like,

858
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen, and

859
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: I set myself out and just stick your finger down

860
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: your throat. It's much better. Just get it over with,

861
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: all right, it's not bad. Let's try. Didn't get me.

862
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be here today. Sorry, not sorry

863
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: about it. Well, thanks for being a good sport j

864
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: J JPJ TH. Thank you so much, Ashley. That was

865
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: a great time. This is a great time. So now

866
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: we're going to have Robbie Hayes and his new crew

867
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: with C S t Ke come on and we'll wrap

868
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: up the show. Well terrific. Sounds great, thank you, But

869
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: first we're gonna take a break. All right. We got

870
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: Bachelor alum Robbie Hayes and two of the lovely ladies

871
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: that join him on this season of CS t KEY.

872
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: It's the third season and it premiered alright, so you guys,

873
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: it's definitely not too late to catch up on the

874
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: show and start watching it. If you like juicy dating

875
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: reality TV, it's on MTV and it's probably going to

876
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: appeal to you. So Robbie, we're going to start out

877
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: with you since you are our batch. You know you're

878
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: you're our bachelor here, this is a bachelor podcast. Why

879
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: did you choose to doc has a key? Um? You know,

880
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: I was falling for a girl, and um in doing that,

881
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: she has a TV show that she's been, you know,

882
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: kind of the lead roll on for two seasons already.

883
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: And that was coming about right kind of right when

884
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: we were kicking things off around stagecoach time and said,

885
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: why not scout there and do it? Who was this girl?

886
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: Is she in the room with us? Juliette? All right?

887
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 1: This is Juliet across the room from Robbie, which makes

888
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: me wonder I was placed here? Are you no longer

889
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,959
Speaker 1: falling in love with her? We are out of love?

890
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Out of love? Okay? Currently? And how did you guys meet? Initially?

891
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: I started working with Kelsey through my Kelsey Kelsey Owens. Okay,

892
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: she's also on the show. She is not here right now.

893
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: She is not the other lady in the room. Yeah,

894
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: act as if we all have never watched the show before.

895
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey Owens, who is now Juliet's roommate, was a model

896
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: from my digital media agency, and we went out to

897
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: Thailand in January and then uh them too, Kelsey and

898
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: Juliette came out to Stagecoach, Oh, the Stagecoach drama. It

899
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 1: seems like it was okay, you met there and like

900
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: it was like love at first stage conteymoon phase started

901
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: and just kept going. So that's what encouraged you to

902
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: go on another reality show. How was it different than

903
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: The Bachelor as far as like production goes as you

904
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: feel like, did you did you feel like there was

905
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: a difference since you're being on dating on one show

906
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 1: with danting on another. A big difference, you know, it's

907
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: it's I got to be a part of something bigger,

908
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: and not bigger in the sense of a production capacity

909
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: or ratings wise, but bigger in the fact that I

910
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: got to show my journey, whereas when I was on

911
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: The Bachelorette, I was a part of Joe Joe's journey

912
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: to find love. So it's more like Paradise less because

913
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: that's still you know, all you're seeing is going on

914
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: dates and and talking and trying to woo someone. This

915
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: like they brought Rebella My Company into it, so you

916
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: get to see me work on a day or you

917
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: get to see me do go on a date and

918
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: try to fall in love, So there's more capacity to

919
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: myself as far as a character that I get to show. Okay,

920
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: so you're saying you're like the lead, you're like the

921
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: main character. Hardly you're sitting next to Madison Hobsburg. You

922
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: guys are sitting together. Does this mean that you're in

923
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: love now? Uh No. Actually we barely interacted this season,

924
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: but we came in with similar situations lation ships that

925
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: were going to be an uphill. Let's be real. Madison

926
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: did not like him. Yes, so, um, I think we

927
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: all other than Juliette and Kelsey, were very skeptical of Robbie.

928
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: Um it's no secret. This is his third fourth reality show,

929
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: fourth fourth thank you. Um. So yeah, we're like, is

930
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: he here for the right reasons? Um? You know? Or

931
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: is this just another opportunity to be cloud chasing? Do

932
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: you think that Robbie loves being on camera? Yeah? For sure.

933
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: Why if I loved it as much as you're saying

934
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: I would have, I'd be down there film and right.

935
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: All right, that's true, Um, but I don't know. I mean,

936
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a businessman too. This is an opportunity

937
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: for him to bring not just his love life, his

938
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: business to the forefront. And who wouldn't take that opportunity.

939
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him, but I'm also looking out for

940
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: my friend Juliet, who you know. I want her to

941
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: find a good relationship because in the past seasons it's

942
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: been a little And in the business part of it

943
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: was was eye opening for me because I mean, you know,

944
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: I former competitive swimmer. That's not my job title normal

945
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: social media influencer. So this then being able to like

946
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: actually like promote what I'm doing a life changing digital

947
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: media explain that last veig we put more eyes on

948
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: brand's products in hopes of a bigger r O. I okay,

949
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. Um, you guys, you guys

950
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: are do you guys agree that he's a villain of

951
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: the season, like the way that the teaser is making

952
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: it look? Um, I don't agree he was a villain

953
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: because he didn't do any villainous things towards me, but

954
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: he definitely had some questionable decisions that came about that

955
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: made him look like a villain in the eyes of others. Also,

956
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: look like this is he's coming in as like a

957
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: new character. We're already established, We already have a fan

958
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: base that Madison and I have known each other since

959
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: we were like fifteen, where it's like Robbie's brand new,

960
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: so that new character is always going be right exactly.

961
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, it is easier for him to be disliked

962
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 1: than people who are already you know. Also, the shows

963
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: like more in our point of view, and it is

964
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: very much through the eyes of the girls on the show. Um,

965
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: so yeah, I agree that they did kind of make

966
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: it look like I was coming in as a villain.

967
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: But when you deal with the show with such high

968
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: level drama like this, you know you have to start

969
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: off at one very drastic into the spectrum to surprise

970
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: the viewers at the end with what it leads to. Right,

971
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: You're not going to give them the answer in the

972
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: first episode. You make them wonder is he really like this?

973
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: And then he'll do something to show do you think

974
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: he does Robbie. Robbie gives off this very perfect persona,

975
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: which I think people think is fake Kendall. I think

976
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: that's what has always been on The Bachelor Friends. Yeah,

977
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: well he also is like that on cs KEY, and

978
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: I think everyone else doesn't believe it. They think it's

979
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: very fake and they think that he's just using me

980
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: or whatever they say. But you know you'll have to

981
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: see ye. So something that you found out Juliet a

982
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was that Robbie had a sex tape?

983
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, what Robbie want to elaborate on that?

984
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: I mean, well, what do you want to know? I mean,

985
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't really want to know anything. But since we're

986
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 1: on this topic, wait, do you really have a sex

987
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: tape with someone who's married? She's not married, and there's,

988
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: as far as I know, no sex tape, but there

989
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: is there is a threat of one coming out exactly.

990
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: So to backtrack a bit, Todd Chris Lee, if you

991
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: guys know from the Chrislies show, um, you may have

992
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: had a little romance with his daughter Lindsay you and

993
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Josh Murray there's been okay, so are you confirming that

994
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: there was a little romance between her and I? Yes,

995
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: I can confirm that. But between Josh, I I don't know.

996
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: And was she married at the time. She's still married? No,

997
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: she would well I guess yes, she was still married,

998
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: but she is going through the divorce papers and was

999
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: finishing filling them out. The thing was like, it was

1000
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: right around the week of when we started talking okay,

1001
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: and so you made a sex tape with her right away?

1002
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: This is you, guys, This is Juliette speaking to robbing language.

1003
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: Iuely interested. I think you know how the sex tape

1004
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: came about. I actually I don't remember. Well, we didn't

1005
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: make one. You didn't make one. We were having consensual

1006
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: alone sexy time, and a pup camera caught us in

1007
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: the living room like a furbo. Three months later, her

1008
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: best friend pulled the footage because she got in a

1009
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: fight with her and was like, hey, I'm holding this

1010
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: over your head and then sold it to her dad. Okay, okay, fair.

1011
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: So there's like a lot of intermingling of reality TV

1012
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: drama here, but the sex tape is not something that

1013
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: we will see the unfold on CSK. No way. Okay,

1014
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: But Juliet did that learning that turn you off from

1015
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: Robbi even more? Like it worse? Gotcha? All right? Well,

1016
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: you guys, is there anything that you think you can

1017
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: say right now to a Bachelor viewing audience to get

1018
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: them to watch c S t key if they don't already.

1019
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: It's like The Bachelor in a very different setting. But

1020
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: if you like romance and breakups and heartbreak and people

1021
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: doing bad things. Also, I think then watch the skate

1022
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: the Bachelor lums love to date each other, right, so

1023
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: in our group, it's just like a smaller pool just

1024
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: stating each other. It's like literally drama. Yeah, yeah, so

1025
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: it gets, it gets kind of. It's rough. Robbiebody, how

1026
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: do you feel? You know what? I didn't know that

1027
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: I could expect more drama than the season of the Bachelor.

1028
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: And we did it. Oh yeah, we did it. My

1029
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: last question is, like, you guys just mentioned that there's

1030
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: like kind of as a Key family where the way

1031
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 1: there is a Bachelor family. Was it weird for you

1032
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: going from one reality TV family to another one? And

1033
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: is that what you think created some tension when you

1034
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: first entered the cast. I don't even think I'm to

1035
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: this day a part of this Key family. I'm really welcomed. Yeah.

1036
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: And when and when we broke up, it was like,

1037
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: by gotta go. I love the girls that I'm with.

1038
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: I love Kelsey, I love Jake Garrett, it's just the

1039
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: other ones. There's there's not going to be a friendship there.

1040
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: It's pointless to try to dive into it. Okay, so

1041
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: you're you're done after the season, we'll see okay. Al right, well,

1042
00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: when can we watch c STKE Tuesday night at eight

1043
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: p m. Eastern Time? All right, thank you, Robbie Medicine

1044
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: and Juliet. All right, well, next week's Bachelor episode looks juicy,

1045
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, tears, tears, tears. The season long preview looks dramatic,

1046
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: of course, most dramatic season never. I don't know. They

1047
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: haven't been teasing it like that, so prop possibly not.

1048
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: I have to say, there's one little thing that we

1049
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: must discuss about the teaser before we leave. You seem

1050
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: very enthused by that. Peter not only hears from Chris

1051
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: Harrison like this big breaking news, but then after that moment,

1052
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Speaker 1: we see him lying on a bed with like ice

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Speaker 1: gonna faint. Mm hmm. Do you think that has to

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Speaker 1: do with the final rose? I have no, but you do.

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Speaker 1: I don't. Again, we've learned that Pete has a hard

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Speaker 1: time saying no to people. Maybe maybe maybe everyone's coming

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Speaker 1: the rejection. All right, well, you guys send your thoughts

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