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Speaker 1: All right, So when I went broke late two thousand eight,

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Speaker 1: Start with the nuggets. Let's start with the nuggets. Do

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Speaker 1: I started playing professionally for the and one mix stape

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine was a pivotal a year for me

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Speaker 1: the same level. You can put in working and then

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Speaker 1: also play with the elite players who kind of like

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Speaker 1: bust you up because you learned a lot from that.

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Speaker 1: That's what I always did. It was like a good balance.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen you do other interviews where you talk

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Speaker 1: about heart and all that stuff. To have heart in

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Speaker 1: those moments, I think it's really about preparation. You know,

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Speaker 1: how can you trust yourself taking the game when he

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Speaker 1: shot in the fourth quarter if you didn't put the

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Speaker 1: work in. But if you feel so prepared and it's

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Speaker 1: like you feel like you know you put in all

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Speaker 1: this time, then I think you're more likely to trust

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Speaker 1: yourself in those big moments. And then that will come

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Speaker 1: out and people like, oh he had heart, But I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of it was just like preparation. He

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Speaker 1: was ready for the moment. Did you ever end up

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Speaker 1: getting to meet Alan Iverson? I actually got to play

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Speaker 1: with Alan Iverson twelve um. There was like an exhibition

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Speaker 1: tour in China and he played three games with us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a great time. Yeah, like what, oh it

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Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean I remember seeing the flyer. They

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Speaker 1: sent us a flyer just be an email before the event.

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Speaker 1: It was like me and my homie Bone Collector and

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Speaker 1: then Ai, you know, pick picture Ai on there and

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Speaker 1: I was just like, man, that's a trip, because you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: I was my first well Michael Jordan was my first inspiration,

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Speaker 1: but hey, I was right there. He was the player.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I could relate to the books. Being

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Speaker 1: a small guy, you know, I could play like he played.

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Speaker 1: So for that to come full circle and get to

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Speaker 1: play with them as it's pretty cool. Yeah. He was

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Speaker 1: super cool. You know when we sat around, like in

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Speaker 1: our off time, he hung out with us. You know,

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Speaker 1: you didn't have to, you know, but like now he

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Speaker 1: hung out with just talk hoops and shared some like

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Speaker 1: you know, he shared some legendary stories behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: But now it was cool. He shows his love. Like

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Speaker 1: every time I see Allen, he'll go out of his

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Speaker 1: way to be like, oh, what's up, my bro? You know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so who has better ball handling hot sauce or Allen Iverson? Who?

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Speaker 1: You know? This is tough because they're both these are

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Speaker 1: both some of my idols. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people actually think that like Hot Sauce and I are

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Speaker 1: like the same era, like rivals. The truth is House

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Speaker 1: ten years older than me. So like when I when

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Speaker 1: I was in high school, Hot Sauce like emulating, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. By the time I got on

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Speaker 1: a mixtape tour, uh, you know, then he's like my teammate. Book,

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Speaker 1: But to get on we had to kind of like

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Speaker 1: go back and forth. Um, so yeah, that's tell that's

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Speaker 1: my two idols right there. And and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: I can't even really say one no, no, you don't

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Speaker 1: get to the interview does not end. That's why we

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Speaker 1: made sure that these questions were extremely tough, and we

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Speaker 1: know that everyone's gonna have something to say about the

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Speaker 1: answer to this question. If I had to say, who's

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Speaker 1: better in the Hall of Fame, yeah, I think so

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Speaker 1: you're you're you're in the On the basketball court, you

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Speaker 1: have to line up your team, you have to choose

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Speaker 1: between the two. Well, it's different levels, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. So yeah, I would go with Allen Iverson.

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Speaker 1: But but I do believe that like some my teammates

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Speaker 1: like House, Sauce and them below in the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame too, and my personal pain. Yeah, so and maybe

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Speaker 1: they will I don't know, but they're both idle, so

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Speaker 1: not taking anything away from So for the for the records,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna nervous. Okay, who from the NBA would be

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Speaker 1: a great street baller? Oh, Kyrie Irving. Everybody thought you

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Speaker 1: were going to say that. Behind the scenes, they were

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Speaker 1: all gonna say, Steph Curry, Yeah, I feel like it's

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Speaker 1: such a great shooter. But ball Hanley Wise, you think, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're a great ball handley skills too, Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: I think um Trey Young Jamal Crawford's not in me

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Speaker 1: this year, but he would be a great There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys, but yeah, I mean Kyrie Irving, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the most skilled players of all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who would you like to play one on one in

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Speaker 1: the NBA? Who? Um? You know what? People always say that,

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Speaker 1: but like I would A lot of some guys who

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Speaker 1: don't make the NBA can't wait to play somebody one

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Speaker 1: on one because they want to like prove how good

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Speaker 1: they are. But like it's not really about that for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I know how I met up with

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Speaker 1: the NBA. You know I fly, I worked out with

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Speaker 1: NBA players, play nexhibition game. How do you feel you

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Speaker 1: match up? Oh? Good? I like, here's the thing as

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Speaker 1: a competitor, if you're lacing them up and you're an

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Speaker 1: elite hooper, like you should never not think you're going

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Speaker 1: to perform well and now but like I'm going back

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Speaker 1: and forth, like I'm saying I was dominating, but but yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get moves off. I would say, I would say,

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Speaker 1: like Lebron, it would be cool to play one, like

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Speaker 1: I'll just like see how he holds me defensively fun

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Speaker 1: N six nine, you would go up against Lebron, well,

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Speaker 1: not not in efference to say, like, I'd like to

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Speaker 1: feel the defense. Though I think I get moves off off.

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Speaker 1: You think, well, I'm not saying to win, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: shake somebody and score. I don't think anybody could stop

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Speaker 1: me a whole game and not get any moves off

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Speaker 1: the score. I think we need to make a personal

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Speaker 1: we want to see the and maybe Lebron could do

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Speaker 1: it right. I ain't never played that good of a finger,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think if you were to like do

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Speaker 1: a video of you versus Lebron, it would probably go

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Speaker 1: to like one of the most viral video the Internet. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love they need a great you know Lebron steph Kyree.

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Speaker 1: Just be fun just to see how that goes down.

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Speaker 1: But like, I don't think I could beat any of

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Speaker 1: those three, but I think it gets moves off to see. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: If I had to choose the sport, it would only

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Speaker 1: be basketball. I like that. Yeah, Um, I would hope

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Speaker 1: so and then uh, but if I had to choose

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Speaker 1: a team, no loyalty to the market or anything, I

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Speaker 1: always will say Golden State because they have the clay,

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Speaker 1: they have, they have stuff, they have everybody that would

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Speaker 1: be entertaining and they're all just on one squad. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: especially man so good change the game of basketball. And

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Speaker 1: when you watch some they kind of do fall off,

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Speaker 1: And I'm all about the hero's journey hence eating while broke,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like when you watch Golden State, they

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Speaker 1: always have like they fall off in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the game and they always come back right the true

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Speaker 1: story and even now with the injuries, you'll be a

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Speaker 1: ridder with the injuries, they've kind of like fallen off,

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Speaker 1: like they're only like one superstar away from being right

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Speaker 1: back to title contenders you know, exactly know the next

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Speaker 1: couple of years, get healthy, acquired another Star championship exactly.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time out of your

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Speaker 1: busy schedule to bless us with a TV dinner dinner dinner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I couldn't pick out a more high end

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Speaker 1: uh we had, you know what, So thank you, Professor

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Speaker 1: for another episode of Eating While Broke. For more Eating

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