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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Okay, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about the two million dollar verdicts in Westchester. The

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Speaker 1: reaction of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons and the

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Speaker 1: American Medical Association both to say now that transition surgeries

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Speaker 1: gender change surgeries, however you want to classify it for

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Speaker 1: under eighteen year old, should not happen. Many lawsuits are

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Speaker 1: going to continue, Buck, I would just add to our

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Speaker 1: conversation that we've already had. I think this is going

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Speaker 1: to spread to adults as well, because I think if

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Speaker 1: you're going to say, well, a sixteen year old shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to make this decision given the health implications

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Speaker 1: and impacts, I no age of majority matters, but a

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old or a twenty year old rendering themselves

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Speaker 1: permanently sterile without truly understanding what they were doing. I

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Speaker 1: think these lawsuits are going to expand, and I think

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Speaker 1: the entire concept of so called gender change surgery is

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Speaker 1: is going to be attacked on a level that should

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Speaker 1: have happened long before now, but is going to become

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Speaker 1: much more substantial.

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Speaker 2: The comparison we've made here in the past on the

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Speaker 2: show to body integrity. Body identity integrity disorder. I think

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Speaker 2: it's called the ID where you just and this is

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Speaker 2: a real thing. You can look it up where people

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Speaker 2: you know, there's some none to own. Sorry, some mental illness.

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Speaker 2: People can have a very different degrees. A lot of people,

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Speaker 2: some of you listening, have a little bit of anxiety.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it would be clinically diagnosed as anxiety, but you

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Speaker 2: can control that and you know, a little breathing exercises, right,

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Speaker 2: It exists on this long span of the same thing

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Speaker 2: with depression. Some people get a little depressed. Sometimes you're

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Speaker 2: just responding to life events and you can be down.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe it's a little bit more biochemical. Body integrity

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Speaker 2: identity disorders are very severe and serious mental illness.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: This is something that's where you believe that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: have an arm or you should be paralyzed. It's a

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Speaker 2: very scary, but it's real thing that can happen to people.

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Speaker 2: No doctor would expect to keep his or her license.

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Speaker 2: No doctor would expect the media apparatus in this country

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Speaker 2: to come to their defense if they removed a healthy

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Speaker 2: arm because the patient wanted it removed.

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Speaker 3: You just wouldn't do that, right.

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Speaker 2: And we've been saying all along the comparison between this

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Speaker 2: and these gender transition surgeries is very apt. It is

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Speaker 2: very real and to your point, Clay, right now we're

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Speaker 2: just talking about the mutilation of kids and some accountability

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Speaker 2: for that, and the most importantly now also stopping you know,

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Speaker 2: you want to stop the damage, stop the casualties from continuing.

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Speaker 2: But Clay, I think this is mutilation for adults as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think it's completely medically. You know, the guy who

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Speaker 2: did this for the longest time, I forget his name,

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Speaker 2: but Johns Hopkins University, that was essentially the guy after

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Speaker 2: thirty years of gender transition surgery. You know, seeing all

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Speaker 2: these things is like, it's probably not a good idea, guys.

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Speaker 2: And then of course you had to go into hiding

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Speaker 2: death threats because unfortunately, the transactivists are pretty much the

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Speaker 2: most insane left wing people in America.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's accurate.

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Speaker 2: Not just trans people, transactivists, right, they are crazy.

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Speaker 3: They are completely off their rocker, and they're dangerous sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're committing crimes off the charts relative to their population.

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Speaker 1: With the shooter in Minneapolis, the shooter in Nashville, at

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Speaker 1: the two different schools. The Charlie Kirk shooter was a

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Speaker 1: dating a trans related person, and Buck, you hit on

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Speaker 1: this years ago, and I do think it's worth coming

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Speaker 1: back to. They believe it's genocide the trans community if

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Speaker 1: you do not allow them to trans they believe it's genocide.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people out there in

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Speaker 1: the audience they really haven't spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: thinking about this. But back in the day, and let's

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Speaker 1: say the nineteen eighties, if you were I think RuPaul

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Speaker 1: right or something like, you dressed up as a somebody

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Speaker 1: who was different sex, but you didn't claim that.

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Speaker 2: You were actually across dressing. You're talking about somebody who's

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Speaker 2: which was.

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, something that happened, the transition between hey,

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Speaker 1: like it makes me happier to wear a skirt, or

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 1: I have changed my gender and if you don't allow

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Speaker 1: me to do it, it is the equivalent of a genocide.

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Speaker 1: That is the justification under which they engage in violent

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Speaker 2: People points you there's a long history of transvestites, and

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Speaker 2: in fact, in theater, for example, men played all the

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Speaker 2: roles of women. So yes, dressing up as women, But

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Speaker 2: dressing up as women is harmless. I mean, whether you

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Speaker 2: think it's weird or not, that's up to you, but

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Speaker 2: it's harmless, and it's a person. There's no problem. If

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Speaker 2: somebody wants to wear a dress, they're welcome to wear address,

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Speaker 2: but we're allowed to know that it's or we're allowed

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Speaker 2: to say, well, that's a dude in address. Yeah, And

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Speaker 2: this is the rejection of reality, which is again whether

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Speaker 2: there's a whole chapter in Manufacturing Delusion about this very issue,

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Speaker 2: which I recommend you go get right now on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Go buy a pre order.

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Speaker 2: Copy please, or the audiobook also you can hear my

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Speaker 2: voice do the whole book. The gender the gender affirmation

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Speaker 2: thing that they use, this gender transition rhetoric lay is

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Speaker 2: all meant to get people to give up their right

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Speaker 2: to speak the truth. Because if you're willing to say that,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the difference between a man and a woman.

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Speaker 2: You can say anything, there's nothing that can't be forced

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Speaker 2: upon you. So it's really the ultimate intellectual subjugation that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about. I don't know the difference between a

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Speaker 2: penis and a vagina. That's a pretty fundamental thing that

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Speaker 2: you can't tell, the difference between gender assigned at birth.

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Speaker 2: To use this language, this was just brainwashing on the

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Speaker 2: skin of the Maoish cultural revolution. People went mad with

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Speaker 2: this stuff, and we are finally, finally at an inflection

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Speaker 2: point where we haven't won, but it is turning back

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Speaker 2: the other way. This is moving back in the direction

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Speaker 2: of sanity. And for the plaintiffs lawyers out there, you

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Speaker 2: some of these young people who had these surgeries. They're

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Speaker 2: going to be advertising for it. The verdicts are going

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Speaker 2: to be truly transformative. In many different Red states and

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Speaker 2: all of these different hospitals, you're going to see a drip,

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Speaker 1: We're not allowing this anymore. I mean, Minneapolis, it's crazy. Ben,

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Speaker 1: just a friend of mine, Ben Grossman, just sent me this.

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Speaker 1: Children's Minnesota plans to stop prescribing puberty blockers and hormones

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Speaker 1: And again my point on this is a lot of

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Speaker 1: so afraid of being labeled transphobic or being attacked for

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Speaker 3: To say it.

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Speaker 1: Now, suddenly the bean counters inside of these hospitals can

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Speaker 1: raise their hand and say, wait a minute, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're risking millions of dollars in verdicts if we keep

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Speaker 1: doing these. Look at what just happened in New York.

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Speaker 1: Why I think it's so significant.

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Speaker 2: Well, also this comes on the heels of the other

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Speaker 2: massive failure of institutional medicine, which was the response of

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Speaker 2: the AMA and the CDC, and go down the list

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Speaker 2: of the COVID pandemic where they abandoned science in the

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Speaker 2: name of politics. Yes, this was a mass hysteria throughout medicine. Clay,

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Speaker 2: I'm still ticked off, and by the way, I no

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Speaker 2: longer I I mean fired isn't the right word. But

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Speaker 2: I got rid of or stopped seeing my primary care

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Speaker 2: they were having everybody mask up. Yeah, this was a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. This wasn't This wasn't you know.

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Speaker 2: This is like when the pandemic's over and everyone's gotten

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Speaker 2: the bad shots that we didn't need to get and

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Speaker 2: the whole thing was preposterous. They're still making people mask up.

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Speaker 2: They still have mask up signs around there. I don't

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Speaker 2: trust you as a part. I don't care how smart

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Speaker 2: masking thing was a mass Pavlovian compliance exercise, you are

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Speaker 2: not smart enough to make decisions about my health or

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Speaker 2: anyone else's. You're not brave enough. Maybe brave is the

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Speaker 2: better word. You're not brave enough to make decisions about

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Speaker 2: my health or anybody else's. And we've seen the same thing,

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Speaker 2: the lack of spine, the lack of bravery when it

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Speaker 2: comes to defending children against these mutilation surgeries.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll remember my one of my favorite of the

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Speaker 2: They natural immunity was that was the biggest thing that

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Speaker 2: they really had no answer for. Whatsoever, right they're making

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Speaker 2: everyone get COVID tests. I'm sorry, I don't know we're

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Speaker 2: getting in COVID thing year. But it's tied directly into

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Speaker 2: the madness of the gender mutilation surgeries for kids. Institutional

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Speaker 2: be forced to be accountable for what happened here. Remember

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Speaker 3: Now. No, you still have to get a shot for this. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is this is inexplicable. This is you know, little

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Speaker 3: little Fauci, the worst little coward I've ever seen in my.

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Speaker 2: Life, really is the avatar for this madness and this failure.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Fauci ever spoke up on the trans

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Speaker 2: say about that? These people are shameful and unfortunately medicine

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Speaker 2: I know, there are great doctors, some of my doctors,

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Speaker 2: and you're amazing, so thank you. But overall there are

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Speaker 2: no longer realized that the whole point is to treat

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Speaker 2: people clay, and to do it not only being by

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Speaker 2: And as we know, we've been focused in on the

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Speaker 5: Part of the surge operation here in numerous criminal aliments

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, all to that, and I think the Trump

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know the Grammys people were showing up

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Speaker 1: and good vanished based on the full story of their

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Speaker 1: action being given, which was they were obstructing ICE agents.

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Speaker 1: They weren't just bystanders who happened to end up engaged

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Speaker 1: in violent treatment with no justification at all. They were

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Speaker 1: trying to stop ICE from doing their job. And frankly,

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Speaker 1: Pretty in particular looks like he had a mental illness

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Speaker 1: in the way that he was interacting with ICE. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think I actually feel sorry for him, because if

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Speaker 1: you're spitting on people, and if you're kicking out tail lights,

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Speaker 1: I don't care what your motivation is, you are not

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Speaker 1: in any way I don't think able to be defended.

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Speaker 2: You know, does do you think it changes the calculation

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Speaker 2: at all for Billie Eilish with her stolen land thing?

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Speaker 3: Do you think she even knows that it was it was.

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Speaker 2: You know, Spaniards who initially stole the land or essentially

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Speaker 2: like now.

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Speaker 1: Are she has any idea familiar with American colonial history that.

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Speaker 3: Does she know who? She says we stole the who

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Speaker 3: stole the land?

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Speaker 2: Though actually actually, if anything, the British Anglos did kind

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Speaker 2: of a solid by at least stealing it from the

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Speaker 2: Spaniards who stole them.

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Speaker 3: In the first place, so you know, we're getting them back.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're getting a little revenge for the for

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Speaker 2: the tribes there because we took it from the Spaniards.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. But this she knows, This is

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Speaker 3: my whole point.

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Speaker 1: This gets into the weeds a little bit, but it

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Speaker 1: definitely points out how much historical literacy is. Anytime someone

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Speaker 1: says we need reparations right for slavery, make that argument. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: you realize that the vast majority of the reparations would

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Speaker 1: have to be paid by England, right, because for the

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Speaker 1: vast majority of slavery in America, the British were the

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Speaker 1: ones who benefited because they were colonies. So only if

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Speaker 1: you do actually dive INSS what all the South Asian

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Speaker 1: immigrants to England would they also be paying into this though,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering they pay to That's where it gets

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Speaker 1: really interesting. You're like, Okay, I agree, reparations, England's going

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Speaker 1: to have to pay for two thirds of American slavery.

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Speaker 3: You're like, what, why would they.

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Speaker 1: Pay Well, You're like, well, because they actually benefited from it,

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Speaker 1: because from sixteen nineteen to seventeen eighty three or seventeen

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Speaker 1: seventy six, whatever year you want to create. Britain actually

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Speaker 1: made all the decisions in the colonies. That's why we

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Speaker 1: had the Revolutionary War. So Britain would actually have to

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Speaker 1: pay the vast majority of reparations, not the United States,

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Speaker 1: because of the United States only had slavery for eighty

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Speaker 1: years and anyway, nobody ever really runs through it.

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, by the numbers. By the numbers,

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Speaker 2: Spain exterminated far more, far more natives than the Anglos did,

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Speaker 2: if you because when you look at Central and South America,

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Speaker 2: I mean that the Maya, oh sorry, the Inca Empire alone,

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Speaker 2: the Inca Empire alone probably had more people in it

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Speaker 2: than all of the tribes in North America put together

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Speaker 2: at the time of colonial explorer and the founding.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, does Spain walk around crying tears about

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Speaker 3: this all day? Know why?

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Speaker 2: Because we think of Spain as part of Latin America,

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Speaker 2: all mixed in together now and somewhat non white, even

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Speaker 2: though there are totally white Spaniards with Bland heir. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's all but the point you get in the actual history.

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Speaker 2: And I want to know Billie Eilish, who is she

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Speaker 2: who stole the land? I want to ask her who

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Speaker 2: does she think stole it?

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Speaker 1: And who this is where actually following up and asking questions.

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Speaker 1: This is what we played some cuts of a couple

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Speaker 1: that they made. Actually following up and making them demonstrate

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Speaker 1: the lack of depth of basic knowledge that they have

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Speaker 1: is what real media should do. If we truly had journalism,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't just report what someone says. You would follow

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Speaker 1: up and aggressively question them to see what the depth

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Speaker 1: of knowledge they have. For the take that they've put

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Speaker 1: out there is Billy Eilish.

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Speaker 2: If you if you come from a racially mixed family,

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Speaker 2: and if you like like Barack Obama, black father, white

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Speaker 2: white mother, so then does your white does the white

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Speaker 2: parent like pay reparations but the black parent gets the

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Speaker 2: reper Like how does that work with the reparations?

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Speaker 3: I'm just want to know.

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Speaker 1: Also, how about the African countries that sold the slaves, Like,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't they have to pay part of the reparation since

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Speaker 1: they what about the what about the African immigrants to

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Speaker 2: Did they get the report, because I'm pretty sure they're

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Speaker 2: just they just got here, but they're black. Do they

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Speaker 2: get reparations? I don't think anyone's really thought this one. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna do the lineage thing. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: and then how much how much do you get? It

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Speaker 2: Billie Eilish though she should stick to kind of the

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Speaker 3: She has to get back her home. I would.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: a sec But let me set the table for several

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Speaker 3: Day four search for Nancy Guthrie.

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Speaker 1: Still no major news about where she might be as

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Speaker 1: rolls on. But we are joined now by the Lieutenant

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Speaker 1: Governor of Georgia, Burt Jones, and it is National Girls

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Speaker 1: and Women's Sports Day, and in the state of Georgia,

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Speaker 1: there is a big Senate race coming up, and I'll

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Speaker 1: start with this question for you, Lieutenant Governor Burt Jones,

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Speaker 1: John Asoff, who is running for Senate reelection in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: be a big decision in twenty twenty six for the

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Speaker 1: people of Georgia. He actually thinks men should be able

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Speaker 1: to compete in women's sports. I can't imagine that is

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Speaker 1: something that the vast majority of Georgians agree with, particularly

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Speaker 1: the dad's out there, no.

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Speaker 6: Clay and Buck. I appreciate y'all having me on today,

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Speaker 6: and it's really hard to believe that a senator from Georgia,

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Speaker 6: you know, has voted three different times to allow boys

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Speaker 6: in the girls' sports, and you know, he's always trying

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Speaker 6: to play the middle of the road Democrat, but he

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Speaker 6: kind of shows is uh true colors when when he

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Speaker 6: when he does that on three different occasions. So obviously

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Speaker 6: we've got to come up with a nominade run against him.

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Speaker 6: We've got several guys who are running for that I

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Speaker 6: hopefully when when that winner emerges, we'll we'll all get

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Speaker 6: behind him and uh see if we can't knock knock

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Speaker 6: him off, because uh, it's it's embarrassing when I have

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Speaker 6: to go to the Alabama Senators when I need something

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Speaker 6: in d C, you know, because ours uh are not

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Speaker 6: very helpful. And that's that's uh, that's that's not the

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Speaker 6: way it should be.

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Speaker 3: So you've got a big election coming up. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: The governor of Georgia, Bryan Kemp, has been very popular.

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Speaker 1: You are the lieutenant governor, and you're launching something that

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Speaker 1: I think is important. Girl Dads for Bert statewide coalition

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Speaker 1: of dads standing up for fair and its safety, opportunity

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Speaker 1: Riley Gaines, who works with me at OutKick, has been

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Speaker 3: Uh. For dads who want to sign up, and there

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Speaker 3: are a ton of them out there listening right now

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Speaker 3: that are fed up about this issue, what would you

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Speaker 3: tell them to do?

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Speaker 6: Well, I would tell them to go to girl Dads

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Speaker 6: for Bird dot com. Girl Dads for Bird dot com.

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Speaker 6: And this is something that look, we pushed two years

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Speaker 6: ago and Riley Gaines helped us with this effort. We

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Speaker 6: actually before the federal Act was put in place, we

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Speaker 6: push and got it done in the state of Georgia

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Speaker 6: not allowing boys and girls sports. And as a as

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Speaker 6: a father of a teenage daughter who's a good athlete,

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Speaker 6: uh and lights to compete in a lot of different sports. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you know it was it was a no brainer for

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Speaker 6: me and a lot of guys that that I played

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Speaker 6: with in college that have daughters themselves. They are involved

658
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Speaker 6: with us and it's just helping us spread the word

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Speaker 6: because it is National Women's Sports Day. You wonder where

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Speaker 6: all the title nine women were that fault for to

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Speaker 6: put women on equal play and field. As far as scholarships,

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Speaker 6: who can turns concerned at the collegiate level, they they were,

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Speaker 6: they were nowhere to be found when it was time

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Speaker 6: to try to save girls sports from a biologically male athletes.

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Speaker 6: So uh, but so we're celebrating that, and we thought

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Speaker 6: it'd be in this campaign for governor. You know, it's

667
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Speaker 6: a it's a long haul, so you do have to

668
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Speaker 6: come up some different things every once in a while.

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Speaker 6: And this was something we felt passionate about and we

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Speaker 6: were glad to have so many people participate and help us.

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Speaker 6: Riley Gaines being one Hall of Fame UH football NFL

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Speaker 6: star Champ Bailey is on board helping us with it.

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Speaker 6: And obviously, yeah, go to girls, Girl dadsrobird dot com

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Speaker 6: and I would love to have you engaged and involved

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Speaker 6: and in the campaign and and and then this effort

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the state of Georgia has elected

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Speaker 1: Republicans to statewide office by and large that are in

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00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: state government, but has now three consecutive cycles elected senators

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Speaker 1: who are Democrats and don't really represent the state of Georgia,

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Speaker 1: particularly on this issue which is just a cultural flashpoint

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Speaker 1: very well at all.

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Speaker 3: And can that change in twenty six.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you can definitely change. Obviously, the last

685
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Speaker 6: election cycle, you know, the president, President Trump, who was

686
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 6: endorsing me for governor won Georgia by a pretty good margin.

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Speaker 6: And then if you look at some of the other

688
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Speaker 6: races back in twenty two where all statewide constitutional officers won,

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Speaker 6: Republicans won statewide elections with the exception of herschel Walker

690
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Speaker 6: when he was running for US Senate. So it definitely

691
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 6: is still a red state, and I think has gotten

692
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Speaker 6: redder as the Democrats has gotten further and further away

693
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Speaker 6: from just middle of the road politics. It just seemingly

694
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 6: have just gone so far left, that is, it's a

695
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 6: very different looking Democratic Party than it was just ten

696
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: years ago here in the state of Georgia. So I

697
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: do think will have an opportunity. I think look, I

698
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 6: think those those elections were just although they had it

699
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 6: was a perfect storm with a couple of those things,

700
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Speaker 6: how you ended up with Warnock and ofs Off and

701
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Speaker 6: and we're going to try to prevent that from happening

702
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Speaker 6: this cycle. We've worked a lot on election integrity, We've

703
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: worked a lot on grassroots efforts, and our state Republican

704
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 6: Party has gotten a lot stronger and more organized than

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Speaker 6: probably what we were four or five years ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming a lieutenant governor's Bock. Thanks for being here

707
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Speaker 2: that it will come up quite a bit in this election.

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Speaker 2: That as Off back in March of last year joined

709
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Speaker 2: Senate Democrats and blocking the Protection of Women and Girls

710
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Speaker 2: in Sports Act and his when I was looking this up,

711
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Speaker 2: I was like, what is his rationale for this or

712
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Speaker 2: how does he and and he has people out there,

713
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: his spokespersons are saying it's extremely intrusive for the federal

714
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Speaker 2: government to confirm or sorry, American parents don't need federal

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Speaker 2: government confirming children's genitalia quote end quote.

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Speaker 3: That was what he said.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy, this is like, this is this is

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Speaker 2: not rational stuff from this senator.

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Speaker 6: No, no, not at all. And you know, especially with

720
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Speaker 6: one of the people he's running again, actually passed the

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Speaker 6: Riley Gaines Act at the fair level, Congressman Mike Collins,

722
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Speaker 6: who's running through US Senate. Uh, he passed the bill

723
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Speaker 6: that has gotten so much fanfare here locally, and he's

724
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Speaker 6: potentially awesong opponent, you know, in the November election. So look,

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Speaker 6: I can't make sense. There's a lot of things that

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Speaker 6: the senator says. So I don't need to try to

727
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Speaker 6: try to get in his head because obviously he's just

728
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Speaker 6: put to make a statement like that is just preposterous,

729
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Speaker 6: and so anyways, I just you know, that's all the

730
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Speaker 6: more reasons why we gotta we got to have a

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Speaker 6: strong gubernatorial nominee like myself, a strong Senate candidate where

732
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Speaker 6: we can have a big coalition to make sure that

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Speaker 6: we flip that feedback into the red column.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for the time, Lieutenant Governor. For anybody

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Speaker 1: out there that wants to help in the campaign, what

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Speaker 1: would you tell him to do?

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Speaker 6: I would tell him to go to Bert Jones FORGA

738
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Speaker 6: dot com, Burt Jones FORGA dot com, And of course

739
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Speaker 6: you go to all our different platforms on social media,

740
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Speaker 6: but you go to our website and we'd love to

741
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Speaker 6: have volunteers. We'd love to have any kind of engagement

742
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Speaker 6: that you'd like to participate in, we'd love to have you.

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Speaker 6: It's a very important race. George is a very important state,

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Speaker 6: and that was the reason why President Trump endorsed me

745
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Speaker 6: for this governor's race very early on, because he knows

746
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Speaker 6: how important Georgia is, not just not just for our

747
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Speaker 6: politics here locally, but on the national stage as well.

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Speaker 1: No doubt that's Burt Jones joining for governor in the

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Speaker 1: state of Georgia going to be one of the top

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Speaker 1: battle grounds in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Lieutenant Governor. Now, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 2: podcaster extraordinaire. Carol, Welcome, Welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much for having me. I can't believe I'm

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Speaker 3: Clay right now.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty pretty awesome, But your piece, Your piece got

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Speaker 2: my attention, as it always does. New York Post here

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Speaker 2: to end transgender madness, make the schools who pushed these

796
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Speaker 2: surgeries pay the price. We talked about this in the

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Speaker 2: opening of the show. The two million on adolescens get

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Speaker 2: sued bigly.

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Speaker 7: I agree, yeah, and I think that this is the

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Speaker 7: only way to really end this insanity. People forget that

801
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 7: for so many years, not only was this all pushed

802
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 7: on the rest of us as the normal thing to do. Sure,

803
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 7: cut off the breast of a healthy teenage girl to

804
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 7: make her pretend that she's a boy. That was something

805
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 7: that not only was the medical profession telling Americans was

806
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 7: the right thing to do. But if you dare to

807
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 7: disagree with this in any way, you were a bigot,

808
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Speaker 7: You were anti trands, You were a terrible person who

809
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 7: wanted to see dead kids. So this wind draws the

810
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Speaker 7: line in the sand and says no more of this.

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Speaker 7: And in my column I highlight how many kids you

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Speaker 7: know had this kind of surgery. The AHHS puts the

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Speaker 7: number at around thirty seven hundreds, thirty seven hundred American

814
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Speaker 7: at all lessons in just four years. So it's a

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Speaker 7: really crazy large amount of numbers of kids who went

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Speaker 7: through this serious surgery. But then there's so many more

817
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Speaker 7: kids who did things like breastbinding or took hormones and

818
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Speaker 7: have their lives ruined forever, and the people who did

819
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Speaker 7: this to them should be made to pay.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just had a conversation yesterday actually with

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Speaker 2: a Floridian who I was talking to him and he

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Speaker 2: does some house flipping and remodeling and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: and I said, you know, why do you move down here?

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Speaker 2: And he said, honestly, the breaking point was at my school,

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Speaker 2: you know, my kids school. Rather they started pushing the

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Speaker 2: tran stuff and he was in I think fifth or

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Speaker 2: sixth grade or something, and he's like, I just had

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Speaker 2: to I had to just say enough is enough. And

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Speaker 2: I moved down here to Florida, where, of course they

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Speaker 2: don't do that stuff in the schools, thank you, Governor DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: But even like Megan Kelly, Megan Kelly pulled.

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Speaker 3: And she's been very open about this. She talked about

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Speaker 3: on her show.

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Speaker 2: She pulled her son from a school that was like

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Speaker 2: the rival school to the one I went in New York,

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Speaker 2: so kind of hit get close to home because they

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Speaker 2: were doing like the trends, you know, coming out day

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Speaker 2: stuff for kids in primary school.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what's really crazy is how prevalent it became in

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Speaker 7: places like New York City, and it was very much

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Speaker 7: a geographical question, like depending on where you were, it

842
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Speaker 7: mattered for whether this kind of thing was going to

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Speaker 7: hit your kids or not. My daughter we moved when

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Speaker 7: she was in the middle of sixth grade. We moved

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Speaker 7: from New York to Florida, and she would have In

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Speaker 7: New York, she had i would say, close to a

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Speaker 7: dozen friends who in some way called themselves trends. Maybe

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Speaker 7: they said they were non binary, which was kind of

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Speaker 7: the easier way out, or they declared themselves the opposite

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Speaker 7: gender from what they were. When she got to Florida,

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Speaker 7: there were none. Zero. She has not encountered this at all,

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Speaker 7: and that really goes to show something. It was a

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Speaker 7: nationwide social contagion, but it really only caught on in

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Speaker 7: certain areas. You know. There was this kind of jokey

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Speaker 7: line about it at the time, in like twenty twenty,

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Speaker 7: but it was like, there's no trans kids in the hood,

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Speaker 7: and that was the thing. It wasn't happening everywhere. It

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Speaker 7: was happening in these spar left enclaves that allowed this

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Speaker 7: to happen, and then it was seeping into red areas also,

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Speaker 7: but a lot of times parents in those areas were

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Speaker 7: putting a stop.

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Speaker 2: To it, Carol, one thing that you also detail in

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Speaker 2: your New York post piece. And I think it's just

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Speaker 2: so important that people know about this, and it's it

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Speaker 2: goes to how disgraceful all this stuff was, and it

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Speaker 2: is these procedures that they put sometimes kids through. And

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Speaker 2: I even I actually think this stuff should be illegal

868
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: for adults as well, because I think it's these are

869
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: not medical procedures. That's a whole other conversation. You're talking

870
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: now about non adults. We're talking about minors, and some

871
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: of these procedures, even things like chest binding, which you

872
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: get into here, is can deform these young girls and

873
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: give them a lifelong pain.

874
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. And what was so crazy about again that

875
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 7: era where we were all made to say that we

876
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 7: would support this kind of insanity, was that it really

877
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 7: did grip so many different kinds of people. You know,

878
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 7: When Bethany Mandel and I wrote our book Stolen News,

879
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 7: it was published in twenty twenty three, so we were

880
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 7: writing it in like twenty one, twenty two, we had

881
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 7: when we were talking to conservative publishers. They were saying

882
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 7: to us, we love the book, conservative publishers book, We

883
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 7: love the book, but we need you to cut the

884
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 7: trans chapter. And that was even in the conservative world,

885
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 7: you weren't allowed to say that this was having serious,

886
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 7: serious damage on these kids, that it wasn't a joke,

887
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: that it was a real thing that was happening, that

888
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 7: kids were having body parts cut off. And of course

889
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 7: the left goes through that thing that they do where

890
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 7: it's not happening, but also if it is happening, it's

891
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 7: a good thing, and that's where they are right now.

892
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 7: They're in a situation where they've pushed for this, they

893
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 7: allowed this to go on, and now they have to

894
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 7: say that it's a good thing that they've cut off

895
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 7: the breasts of healthy teenage girls to help them pretend

896
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 7: that they're boys. But we all know that it's not.

897
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 7: And I think that this kind of court case, winning

898
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 7: this kind of court case really goes a long way

899
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 7: to showing who's on the right side.

900
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Speaker 2: You know, I have in my forthcoming book Carol, which

901
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: I will say Carol has been a very important source

902
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: of encouragement. In my book writing Process Manufacturing Delusion, and

903
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: there's a whole chapter on menticide, which is what a

904
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 2: psychiatrist and an army psychiatrist in the Second World War

905
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: who actually dealt with a lot of ss Nazi prisoners.

906
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 2: He was Dutch, he came up with this term of menticide,

907
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: Mere Lou and it's the destruction of the brain. And

908
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: one of the key things is to get people to

909
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 2: affirm really obvious and grotesque lives like that's a central

910
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: part of this and this was obviously true in the

911
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: Soviet Union as well. To me, there has been and

912
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 2: this is why I talk about the trend stuff in

913
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: the chapter on ment to side in the book, there

914
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: has been a transgender agenda that is menticidle with respect

915
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: to how they insist that people say the most insane

916
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: things or they will go crazy and sometimes even become

917
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: very violent.

918
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 7: As we know, right, you have to say it the words,

919
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 7: and you have to say them in the right way,

920
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 7: and you need to parrot the line that left is

921
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 7: feeding you. Where you've also had to center our book

922
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 7: because it's a sign of satalitarianism. It's what talitarian societies do.

923
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 7: They push One note one voice that you must speak with,

924
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 7: and when somebody doesn't, when the JK Rowlings of the

925
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 7: world step out of line, they're shunned in such a

926
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 7: really nasty, horrible way that they're really taken out of

927
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 7: their own society. It's a really terrible situation. And the

928
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 7: fact is that we're getting to the point where we

929
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 7: could see who was right and who was wrong. And

930
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 7: that's really what we want to be hoping for here,

931
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 7: that this kind of thing comes to an end, that

932
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 7: children aren't mutilated anymore, that this kind of thing isn't

933
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 7: pushed in our schools, that we come to believe that

934
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 7: you cannot change your birth sex, that you can dress

935
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 7: up as however you want, you can call yourself whatever

936
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 7: you want. But ten thousand years from now, and somebody

937
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 7: digs up your bones, they're going to know what the

938
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 7: DNA said, and that's going to be that you were

939
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 7: either a boy or you were a girl, and that

940
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 7: is the end of the story. And there's no compassion

941
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 7: in lying to children that they could change that in

942
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 7: any way, and having them try to change that is

943
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 7: just has been a growthesque experiment, and I hope it

944
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 7: ends well.

945
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: I think that that's such a critical point. They have

946
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: used the idea of kindness. They have used the ideas

947
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: of kindness and courtesy as a weapon against those of

948
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 2: us who wanted to protect children.

949
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 3: It's just us.

950
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 2: Just be nice, use the pronouns they want, Just be nice,

951
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: encourage them in this belief. Just be nice. Give them

952
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: the hormones or and now this is for the parents particularly,

953
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: you know, take them to the doctor that'll give them

954
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: the hormones, that'll bind their chest.

955
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: To do these things.

956
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: It's actual cruelty. They offer cruelty and call it kindness,

957
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: and I think that is central to the whole trans experiment, absolutely.

958
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 7: And they tell the parents, if you don't do this,

959
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 7: your kid will kill themselves. And that's really just one

960
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 7: of the things that parents, you know, they'll do anything

961
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 7: for their kids, right, And if they're told, like would

962
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 7: you rather have a live girl or a live daughter

963
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 7: or a dead son, obviously every parent would want their

964
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 7: child alive. But it's they've kind of cornered parents into

965
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 7: this where they had to accept a ridiculous reality that

966
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 7: was never going to be in order to say, oh,

967
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 7: this is how your child survives. And they really put

968
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 7: parents through the Wringer.

969
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad that there's this lawsuit that happened, though, because

970
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 2: I have been concerned all along, Carol.

971
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: And this is is going to speak right right to

972
00:51:59,480 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: you on this.

973
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: You that it would be a little bit like the

974
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: aftermath of COVID, when somehow no doctors, no hospitals, no

975
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: health policy people, no one in the government, no one

976
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 2: just lied, No one abused us for power, nobody was responsible,

977
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: even though we know that's all lie itself. Yeah, in

978
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 2: this case, because of the legal system we have and

979
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: towurt law, I do think people individuals can be held responsible.

980
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: I don't think they're just going to be able to

981
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: do the Yeah, so what if we told you United

982
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: a vaccine passport and that was insane and totally useless.

983
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 7: Right, You're right. Usually people are not held accountable for

984
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 7: terrible things that they do to society. But this is

985
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 7: hopefully going to be the change in that. And again,

986
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 7: this is so far beyond the pale. Not that I

987
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 7: didn't think that the COVID regulations and things that they

988
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 7: did to us were also horrible. I did, But you know,

989
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 7: the cutting off of healthy body parts I think is

990
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 7: just something that we need to again the line in

991
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 7: the sand that we have to say that this is

992
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 7: just something that we cannot societally accept. And the fact

993
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: that this is the very first win of a court

994
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 7: case like this that went to trial. I hope the

995
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 7: floodgates open after this, and I hope there are many

996
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 7: many more.

997
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 2: Do you think that have you ever talked to a

998
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: parent that seemed otherwise to be relatively like normal and

999
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: with it, who was a big believer in this trans ideology.

1000
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 7: Stuff in sy No. But what I was going to

1001
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 7: say is a lot of people think that parents who

1002
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 7: have kids who declare themselves trans are you know, uniformly leftist,

1003
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 7: uniformly crazy. I knew a family in New York who

1004
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 7: had a child who said that they were the opposite gender,

1005
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 7: and they had I mean, they were this very normal

1006
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 7: family who you would never They definitely weren't encouraging their

1007
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,839
Speaker 7: kids to do anything crazy, they definitely weren't on board

1008
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 7: with any of this. But they literally had to move,

1009
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 7: They had to leave the state because their child's school

1010
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 7: was saying, you have to affirm this for your child.

1011
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 7: This is elementary school. This is while my kids were

1012
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 7: in elementary school. And the fact that the school was

1013
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 7: pressuring them to affirm their child. There's so many normal

1014
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 7: families that get caught up in this. I think a

1015
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: lot of conservatives just think it's like blue haired nos

1016
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: ring families that this happens to. This happens in a

1017
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 7: lot of places, and a lot of people are susceptible

1018
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 7: to it, and you have to protect your kids.

1019
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: Who wants this stuff right?

1020
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 2: Well, I know that we could throw out some things

1021
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: we see these crazy activists, but it's fascinating to me

1022
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: that whenever you push on any individual politician on this,

1023
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 2: they start speaking around, They pull a Gavenus and they

1024
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 2: start speaking around the issue, They speaking platitudes.

1025
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. They've used so much.

1026
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: Power to force this on us, and yet no person

1027
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: who can be held accountable will actually stand forth and

1028
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: subject themselves to debate and argument.

1029
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 3: On this subject.

1030
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 7: Yeah. I really do think it's a leftist destruction of

1031
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 7: the family when you have your kids be broken down

1032
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 7: in this manner where they don't know what gender is

1033
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 7: anymore and they can't be sure that such a thing exists.

1034
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 7: What is only a boy and a girl and that's it.

1035
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 7: I think that it really does target the traditional family

1036
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 7: and it's a larger picture, it targets the country. It's

1037
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 7: an anti American measure. It makes everybody a little crazy.

1038
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 7: And I know it sounds like why would they do

1039
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 7: this or who would do this? But look at the

1040
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 7: activists on the streets right now. Their cause of the

1041
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,240
Speaker 7: day doesn't matter. Every cause is basically the same people

1042
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 7: out in the streets, and the point is to bring

1043
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 7: down the country. And I know that that sounds lofty

1044
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 7: and like why you know that can't be what they're

1045
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,959
Speaker 7: really thinking. But all of these steps, all of these

1046
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 7: breakdown of institutions, of familial binds, all of this is

1047
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 7: the same thing. It takes its roots in places like

1048
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 7: communist Russia, where you know I'm from where they did

1049
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 7: the exact same thing, where your family is not your family,

1050
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 7: you're not you're not supposed to matter to you more

1051
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 7: than the random person on the street, and the country

1052
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 7: comes above all and you're not allowed to have religion

1053
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 7: and all of this it's all one leftist push to

1054
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 7: change the way our country is and we can't let

1055
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 7: them have it.

1056
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,959
Speaker 2: Totally agree with you, great piece of the New York Post. Guys,

1057
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 2: go check out Carol's show. She does a great job,

1058
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Speaker 2: Carol Mark Wood Show and also normally which she does

1059
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Speaker 2: with Mary Catherine Ham.

1060
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