WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Couldn't Ask For Moore

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the

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<v Speaker 1>Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>inside the SWNBC Mortgage studio. Happy Monday to everybody. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a victory Monday out here at the Star. Cowboys thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five New York Giants seventeen in the season opener, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was really that close either. Dominant performance,

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Phillips, Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Bill Jones will

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<v Speaker 1>be back tomorrow. But we have so much to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about over this next forty five minutes. Not a bad

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<v Speaker 1>way to start the season. Huh. Took the words right

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<v Speaker 1>out of my mouth. Yes, absolutely, you know, And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as I when my column gets up, I wrote, they

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<v Speaker 1>answered a lot of questions. I think that we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of swirling around the team as they went into this

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<v Speaker 1>first game, and almost every one of the answers came

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<v Speaker 1>out awfully positive. In a game like that, when you

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<v Speaker 1>dominate an opponent. You should have dominated and go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and do what you're supposed to do. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see thirty five points coming, but I thought that they

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<v Speaker 1>were just so efficient and I just don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>could criticize much of anything they did offensively. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like to me a team that actually got preseason

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<v Speaker 1>snaps that were able to get a series or two

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<v Speaker 1>and then kind of parlay that into thirty practices that

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<v Speaker 1>we saw. Some of the things. Some of the questions,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Mickey talked about, were what kind of game

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<v Speaker 1>was Kellen Morgan a call? And you know, Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>to his credit, saw a defense that he felt like

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<v Speaker 1>that he could attack, and he attacked it with play action.

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<v Speaker 1>He attacked it with clearly better skill players than what

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants had. We talked about it all week. It's

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<v Speaker 1>why you should listen to the show is we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the Giants lacked of pass rush and even when

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to blitz, they got the pickups. They used

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<v Speaker 1>old Wally and pickups, they used Zeke and pickups. They

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<v Speaker 1>even used Tony Pollard in some pickups. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Giants tried to answer with some things. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys had their own answers, and you know, give Dak

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<v Speaker 1>Press got a lot of credit clean pocket in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Receivers went in on the outside tight ends,

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<v Speaker 1>winning when they had to. So overall, offensively, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was really a very well played game, even to

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<v Speaker 1>the aspect that, like I say, we learned a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the player coming out in multiple formations, even

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes getting in twelve personnel and then still throwing the football.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's something in the past we've kind of seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve personnel was a Zeke handoff, and you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>here he is. I counted one time where he had

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<v Speaker 1>a play and I wrote about this last night, that

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<v Speaker 1>he had a play where he had four players moving

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<v Speaker 1>pre snap, yeah, you know, one after the other, and

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<v Speaker 1>then brought the first player, which was Randall Cobb, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way across the formation and then brought him back

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<v Speaker 1>on the fake on the jet sweep and through the

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<v Speaker 1>screen to Ezekiel Elliott going the other way out the

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<v Speaker 1>back door. So he's trying to show creativity. He's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to show that he can find ways to attack defenses

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<v Speaker 1>when they're just not good enough to handle you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a very very positive sign coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of that, you know. And one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I think was probably with all the things that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe was underscored, was the fact that he went a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hurry up offense. We didn't see that in preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that we saw it in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have a session maybe for hurry up, but

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like in the concept of just they drive

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. And what I liked the most was

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<v Speaker 1>when they hit him with a big play. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no celebrating. It was get your butt to the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage and let's go. We're we're we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to let them regroup. We know we're we're gonna snap

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. And then the other thing, and maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>so much in the running game, but the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>keeping Dak clean. No sacks. This is a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>was sacked fifty six times last year and he only

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<v Speaker 1>got hit twice. Right, And the other thing is he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't save any sacks by having to run out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. His only two runs were called quarterback runs

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<v Speaker 1>and then to kneel down, So to me, the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>was clean. He had time to kind of survey the field,

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<v Speaker 1>come off his first bread, go to the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the third. That was the time that he had

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<v Speaker 1>in the pocket. Uh. And you got to credit that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line that really hadn't played together much at all

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<v Speaker 1>during the preseason. Maybe one time. I'm trying to remember

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<v Speaker 1>that second game, but I don't know that because Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Martin probably didn't play in that. He did not when

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<v Speaker 1>they played the starters exactly exactly. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>retract that this is a sky Wars offense? It is

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<v Speaker 1>one way you said that back in camp. Don't expect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Mike Leach offense necessarily for this team. And

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<v Speaker 1>I get your point because Dak said it after the

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<v Speaker 1>game was over. We're not running necessarily a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>new plays like you said, Brian. They're presenting things a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit differently pre snap, making the defense guess and

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<v Speaker 1>dialing some things up at the right time. That's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's dialed up right when a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of these touchdowns, I mean, there's nobody within ten yards

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys. Blake jarr went on the opening touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>from twenty eight yards out, etc. Yeah, they caught. They

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<v Speaker 1>did a nice job when you have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>weapons like they have, or players that can make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, guys like Randall Cobb in the slot. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw what he's capable of doing. But when you have

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<v Speaker 1>guys that that demand coverage on the outside and guys

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<v Speaker 1>that demand coverage inside, you can't. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the old you know, put your finger in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the damn there to keep the water from coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just more holes. And I think the Giants got

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<v Speaker 1>caught in a situation yesterday where there were so many

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<v Speaker 1>trying to put their fingers and holes to stop the

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<v Speaker 1>leaking that it just the flood hit them. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's that's the idea of how you build your

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<v Speaker 1>football team. You put as many weapons out there as

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<v Speaker 1>you can. You have a quarterback that, like Mickey said,

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback had a command of what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>as far as they're able to play with pace. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like making a play and he's like, let's go,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go, let's go. And you know, that's that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where we that the game is evolving to. When

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<v Speaker 1>it is about playing with pace, it's about making big plays,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about chunk plays and the Cowboys had their share

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<v Speaker 1>of those big chunk plays that really affected the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the Giants were. The Giants didn't have an answer

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<v Speaker 1>for them in the secondary. The kid DeAndre Baker will

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<v Speaker 1>be a great player for them one day, He's just

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<v Speaker 1>not right now. Janoris Jenkins, they feel like that they

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<v Speaker 1>got better at safety. I don't think they got better

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<v Speaker 1>at safety. I really don't. I was talking yea yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Brill Peppers and that they are not good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Jabrill Peppers, I think is an okay player. But but

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, for them to think that they can

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<v Speaker 1>line up Antoine but they against against Mary Cooper and

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<v Speaker 1>the slot and play at one on one with no

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<v Speaker 1>safety help in the middle of the field. Is that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's not having an answer right there. Anna

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<v Speaker 1>Mari's touchdown in the game was with DeAndre Baker, their

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<v Speaker 1>first round draft pick, lining up on just a great throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a great throw, yeah, absolutely great throw and a

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<v Speaker 1>great and a great pickup inside. Matter of fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>was Connor Williams. They run a blitz off the left side,

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<v Speaker 1>and Connor Williams not only helps Travis Frederick with his guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but here the young man having some awareness to bump

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<v Speaker 1>outside pick up the bootsk Tyren Smith had to go

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<v Speaker 1>get the blitzer and then here's Connor Williams sliding over

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the guy and now the balls out

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<v Speaker 1>of your hands. So maybe Connor Williams last year would

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<v Speaker 1>not have been aware and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak would have been hit and much like Manny got

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<v Speaker 1>hit on you know with Lords, and the ball would

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<v Speaker 1>have been fluttering down the field. But that wasn't the case.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to get a great job of managing the

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<v Speaker 1>twist stunts that they had up front. They managed to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up the blitzes and then press Scott made them

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<v Speaker 1>pay for their lack of coverage on the back end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I was talking to Kellen Moore afterwards and

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<v Speaker 1>asked him if Dak had checked to that play and

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<v Speaker 1>he said no, he goes that was the play that

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<v Speaker 1>was called and if we got the coverage we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, that's where we were going right it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he looked because he could see the blitz was coming

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw and I saw it from the press box.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, he's in single coverage. Yeah, the safety's

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<v Speaker 1>way in the middle of the field. Yeah, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad did a great job of holding Peppers in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the field. He never he never looked. He

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<v Speaker 1>never looked to his left until Connor, until the blitz

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<v Speaker 1>got picked up. And when that blitz got picked up,

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<v Speaker 1>then he looked as he looked to the left, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that that kept Peppers right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field, like Mickey said, deep in a way. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was just a whole shot right there, the one

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted him to hit. I wanted him to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the older Walley one. How many times have we seen

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<v Speaker 1>that one? And wheel route, the wheel route. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was always afraid to talk about it to practice. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things like, oh, they tried to

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<v Speaker 1>run olda Wally on the wheel where you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, Okay, that's one of those secretive type plays

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<v Speaker 1>you really don't want to talk about. You know. The

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<v Speaker 1>coaches would walk up tea and go, hey, Brian, please

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<v Speaker 1>don't be talking about stuff. You're watching it practice that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, the older Walley route, that's that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those plays that you know, they got what they wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>They had an outside linebacker who was really a rush

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<v Speaker 1>defensive end that was in coverage and if they could

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<v Speaker 1>have got the ball a little bit further down the field,

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<v Speaker 1>I think older Walley would have made that play, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was It's It's a play that they'd been working

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<v Speaker 1>on a couple different times in practice, and they actually

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<v Speaker 1>hit it a couple of times because they got some

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<v Speaker 1>of the they got the linebackers and coverage on that

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<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys and we're able to hit it. So

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<v Speaker 1>looking play. Kellen Moore, I've said it before when we

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<v Speaker 1>first talked to him back in OTAs, oh While he

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the first guys he mentioned in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of a versatile guy that did a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in Oakland, and people might chuckle at it because he's

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<v Speaker 1>the fullback, but he is versatile. And you know, Dad

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<v Speaker 1>completed passes to seven different receivers that very well could

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<v Speaker 1>have been eight. It's just an example of using all

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that he's got and a lot of talented guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they sent a message to the next

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<v Speaker 1>opponent in the rest of the league that this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>a one man receiving corps. And I think you're picked

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<v Speaker 1>the click Michael Gallup, Yeah, it worked out that you

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<v Speaker 1>stole from me. I worked out. Okay, we usually give

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<v Speaker 1>you first choice. I know, and I let him go

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<v Speaker 1>because I knew where he was going. Well, he was

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<v Speaker 1>seven catches for one hundred and fifty eight yards and

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<v Speaker 1>and boy was he good and not It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>nine nine routes. He was running those slants. He was

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<v Speaker 1>catching the ball in traffic, guys on him. H that

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<v Speaker 1>was a heck of a game. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we were expecting. That's what we've been seeing. We

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<v Speaker 1>have the benefit of getting the privilege of watching all

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<v Speaker 1>these practices going back to late July, and he has

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<v Speaker 1>been dominant at times in practice. And he looked at

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper in practice, he was he was there all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You gonna talk about this defense? Yeah, you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>After the break, Uh, we got a couple more minutes. Quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything wasn't perfect now exactly. We'll get to that when

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<v Speaker 1>we come back, but real quick on Dac, just to

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<v Speaker 1>recap his day, twenty five or thirty two, four oh five,

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<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns and the Cowboys had touchdowns on five straight drives.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe time since two thousand they had done that. Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect quarterback rating, Mick. That's the first time second the

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<v Speaker 1>first with more than twenty attempts, and one of four

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<v Speaker 1>players in NFL history to get four hundred passing yards

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<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns in a perfect rating. Yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>was unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it was could have drawn

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<v Speaker 1>it up any better. I mean, he was on spot,

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<v Speaker 1>he was seeing the receivers, he was given time. His

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and five yards. When I looked it up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's eleventh most in club history. He was two yards

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<v Speaker 1>short of being ninth because there was a tie for

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<v Speaker 1>ninth at four oh six uh. And I kidded with

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore afterwards, I said, so did you quit callin

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<v Speaker 1>passes that fourth quarter to preserve your seventh spot with

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and thirty five yards passing? And he laughed

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, yeah, I probably should have thought of that. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the most yards UH in a season opener

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<v Speaker 1>by a Cowboy quarterback in history. J. Troy Aikman owned

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<v Speaker 1>the record at three sixty two, but he needed overtime

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety nine against the Redskins, and those came on

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<v Speaker 1>the winning touchdown fast first day the back with the

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<v Speaker 1>with the Cowboys with ye rocket ishmael uh and they

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<v Speaker 1>they had named the play a rocket red glare. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a nine route and rocket ishmail just burned

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<v Speaker 1>him down the field. And it was the same pass

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<v Speaker 1>they had thrown to him earlier in the game and

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<v Speaker 1>he had dropped dropped it, and this time it was

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<v Speaker 1>an eighty yard touchdown pass to win it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you think about all the games they've played, all

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<v Speaker 1>the great quarterbacks, and this was the best season opener

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<v Speaker 1>by a Cowboys quarterback. We mentioned Cooper and Gallup, they're

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<v Speaker 1>the first receiving duo on this team since twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>to get both one hundred yard receiving games. And we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about you mentioned chunk plays. Brian five completions of

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty five yards and there you go, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of games playing that way. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>two for two in the red zone, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging dating from dating back to last season. But you

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<v Speaker 1>also didn't have to put yourself in that situation with

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<v Speaker 1>all the chunk plays they had offensively. And then let's

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<v Speaker 1>not forget Randall Cobb, who made a couple third down

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<v Speaker 1>catches to get first downs, and none more so than

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<v Speaker 1>the one on third down when they were at the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen yard line. I think they needed eight yards or so,

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<v Speaker 1>and he not only caught the ball on and out,

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<v Speaker 1>but he broke the tackle, got the first down, and

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<v Speaker 1>got it to the five yard line, had set up

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<v Speaker 1>Witten's touchdown. So Randall, Cobb and Brian we've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this, his ability to run with the ball after

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<v Speaker 1>the catch and he turns into a running back. And

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. He did it a couple times, so

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't lose anything having him playing in the slot. No, no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect to Cole Beasley, and that's gonna be the last

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<v Speaker 1>time I say that, because you know, we all we

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<v Speaker 1>all respect Cole. But this is a different cat. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a guy that's the guy that's been there. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad ball catcher. You know. He's a guy that

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<v Speaker 1>can adjust. He can make the plays when he's contested.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw what he can do. He's he stopped four

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<v Speaker 1>yards short of the sticks and Hamilton tries to get

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<v Speaker 1>him on a low tackle and he just says, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna get me. He put his hand in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of his chest and stopped his momentum and

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<v Speaker 1>then just him to his side and then put his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder down to get through bethet to get the first So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a different cat with the ball in his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a big time player. He's always been a big

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<v Speaker 1>time player. And you know, is the pro department. You

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<v Speaker 1>go out, you try and find those guys. You should

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<v Speaker 1>go out and try and find a guy that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>for one season he plays out of his mind and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, now you've done a good

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<v Speaker 1>job of helping your football team win games because you

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<v Speaker 1>got guys like him on that team and it only

0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 1>cost him five million dollars. Talk about that heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a signing, probably probably one of the best in the

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on defensively how Dallas looked giving up seventeen points

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<v Speaker 1>although one touchdown came late. What were your thoughts. Overall, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, they made some big plays holding them to

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<v Speaker 1>ten points. Sure, because the overall performance from a yardage

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint giving up four hundred and seventy yards, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the most yards they've given up in the last twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two games. And what's troubling to me is if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at what this defense had done over the last

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<v Speaker 1>two games. Going back to the Rams playoff games, the

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<v Speaker 1>Rams had four hundred and fifty nine yards against them.

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<v Speaker 1>If you add that together, that's nine hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards they've given up in the last two games,

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<v Speaker 1>a long and four hundred and twenty four of those

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<v Speaker 1>are rushing yards, So one fifty one yesterday to the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>And we don't need to keep tract of how many

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<v Speaker 1>games they've played without giving up a one hundred yard

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<v Speaker 1>rusher because they did it already with se Quon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 1>So to me, when you've given up four hund and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four yards rushing in two games, that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a troubling sign. And I know the games are nine

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<v Speaker 1>months apart or whatever, but still you gotta do better

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<v Speaker 1>than that. And I'm sure Rod and Marron Nelly's Barking

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<v Speaker 1>in there today, Well said Mickey. Well said on that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think to me that the game playing clearly was

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<v Speaker 1>to try and stop Barkley and to stop Evan Ingram,

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<v Speaker 1>and you failed both in both. If you really want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at it, you know, you can allow the

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<v Speaker 1>others to make plays, but you know that part of

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't kill you. They talk about they talk about

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<v Speaker 1>they would rather they're okay with the yards as long

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<v Speaker 1>as they don't give up the points. The thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was troubling to me was we talked about tack and

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<v Speaker 1>it looked like at times it was really really poor.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so maybe that's something that will see to go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we get into the season, that will improve.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, yeah, you look at the if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the overall numbers of who had to make

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<v Speaker 1>the tackles, Xavier Woods was your leading tackler with eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's never good when your safety's having to make eleven plays,

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like. And two, I think the Cowboy was

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<v Speaker 1>very fortunate the game wasn't close, because they would have

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<v Speaker 1>just steady dieted you. With se Quon Barkley, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they had a real answer for him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't. And we made the Barry Sanders comparison

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<v Speaker 1>did too during the week. It's absolutely true about him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, if he would have I think Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>took him out of the game as far as the score,

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<v Speaker 1>took him out of a game because if that thing

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<v Speaker 1>was close, I mean, they just kept handing the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>handing the ball, and you're thinking, like, man, they have

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<v Speaker 1>not really stopped him yet. Day. You know, Anthony Brown

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<v Speaker 1>had a mistackle that could have been a minus play

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<v Speaker 1>spun off goes down, you know, Yeah, the fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>yard was a hell of a play by a Woozier

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<v Speaker 1>to run him down from the other side of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a great effort because if a Woozier doesn't come flying,

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<v Speaker 1>they still scoring the drive, but just the effort to

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<v Speaker 1>get over there. But yeah, they were blocked badly on

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<v Speaker 1>the play. There was nobody in the alley the ball

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<v Speaker 1>when it went out of there. It was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was on he was setting sales. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you have to worry about I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about the pass rush. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was nearly now that we talked about the Giants

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<v Speaker 1>had had improved some with their with their pass protection.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear that was something they wanted to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just, you know, it just wasn't It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like the best pass rushes they had were when Eli

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<v Speaker 1>Manning got outside the pocket. That's when they that's when

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<v Speaker 1>they were the most effective. When when Pat Shermer was

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<v Speaker 1>making some ridiculous calls on third and four down, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of handing the ball to that number twenty six, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, oh, let's get cute and try and do

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<v Speaker 1>something near on the outside. So you got some help there.

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<v Speaker 1>Smart played by Woods, by the way to tackle that

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<v Speaker 1>guy on the goal line when the ball got outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a brilliant play on his part.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, overall, I think if you're the Cowboys, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be concerned that the two best players for

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants you did not really control. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>that that's you know they're I think they're gonna play

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<v Speaker 1>better offenses. I think they're going to play teams with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with I don't know if they have a

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<v Speaker 1>better running back, but just as good as tight ends

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<v Speaker 1>and even better receivers down the line, and a better

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for sure. Now a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Ingram's came in the fourth quarter and they were trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep everything underneath and they were just dumping, dumping,

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<v Speaker 1>dumping to him. But the sequon Barkley part just really

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<v Speaker 1>worried to me that the defensive tackles weren't holding down

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<v Speaker 1>the fort in the middle. And then the linebackers, like

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<v Speaker 1>on his big run, Vanderish got caught looking inside and

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<v Speaker 1>he's chasing the ball instead of staying in his gap.

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<v Speaker 1>And they knew that this guy will jump cut on

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<v Speaker 1>you and don't over pursue. That's what got him in

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<v Speaker 1>trouble against the Rams. They started over pursuing angles. Gotta

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<v Speaker 1>do better than that. And he was finding creases right

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<v Speaker 1>up the middle. You know. It wasn't like he was

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<v Speaker 1>speed to the outside. It was creases in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's gotta that part's gotta improve. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Brian said, you know you got one sack. That was it. Oh,

0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Tank was not happy after the game talking, I mean said,

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it's not good enough. You could tell those guys were

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>not happy with the overall performance. Now they did get

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 1>off the field, yes, two of eleven. I think the

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Giants were off third downs a couple takeaways. So there

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>were some good things there. Got off on fourth down two,

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>fourth down, big play by Tank there as well. Obviously

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the terrible call. Yeah, I just you know, I mean,

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what are you thinking? I don't know. That's why that

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.879
<v Speaker 1>that to me the Giant that's where you know, you

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 1>have a you have a you talk about Kellen Moore

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and the way he uses his weapons or way he

0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>used the weapons yesterday. You know, when you take the

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>ball at Saquon Barkley's hands, that to me is a

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that's just a sign of stupidity right there for Patton,

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:04.840
<v Speaker 1>And if you're the Giants, you have to be sitting

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>there going why do we do this? Why do we what? What?

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 1>What are we doing here? Why are we trying to

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>do it? Happened twice right downplay when he when he

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>was getting hit and Vanderish hit him and they called

0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>him for intentional grounding, right and then the fourth down

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>play fourth and one, and you're going to roll him out.

0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The best pressure they got, like I said, was when

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they when they got when they got manning outside in space,

0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 1>that's the best. But to get one set and I'll

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 1>tell you what something is a little disappointing to me,

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>just you know, because we've talked about the depth on

0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:38.199
<v Speaker 1>this roster, especially the depth on the defense. It was

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>not you know, you watch guys like the carry Hiders,

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and you watch the Joe Jacksons, and you watch the

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>backup guys. You know, if you're counting on these guys

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.359
<v Speaker 1>to play, and it's late in the game, and I know,

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's the score is not what it needs to be,

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But if you're counting on Carry Hider and you're counting

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 1>on Joe Jackson and all those guys and any all

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>the other backups that were in that game or Armstrong,

0:25:02.680 --> 0:25:06.640
<v Speaker 1>they did not affect that game or make a play

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.159
<v Speaker 1>that the Giants just went down the field to get

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>that set that last touchdown. And a lot of that

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was on guys that you're talking about being, hey, this

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>is the depth and these are the rotational players, and

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, we And yeah, I'm guilty. I'm

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 1>guilty of this because I'm sitting there telling you, well, Okay,

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Kerry Hider can do this, and Doorg's Armstrong could do this,

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and but those guys didn't show up like they needed to.

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>If they're going to rely on them to be rotational players,

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>they have to play better than what they played in

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.439
<v Speaker 1>that in that second half or that fourth quarter in

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that in that game yesterday, it's not just shoot, everybody's

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about the depth on that line. Yeah, two high

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>draft picks that were healthy scratches made an active in

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>the game. Maybe maybe have to rethink that might be

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Taco dying. Yeah, exactly, because my Armstrong got one quarterback hit.

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise he zeroed out, didn't even make a tackle. Yeah,

0:25:56.680 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So to me, if you're gonna play the guy thirty snaps,

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that's forty three percent of the plays and that's all

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:07.879
<v Speaker 1>you get. I just and they tried moving him around

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:09.920
<v Speaker 1>to the point finally they started a couple of times

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.239
<v Speaker 1>they moved Lawrence over to the right side. Yes, they

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 1>weren't getting any plas over there. They weren't. That's where

0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 1>they tried to take advantage a little bit of Nate

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 1>Solder and Nick Nick Mickey was right about that. Then,

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, take advantage of that. But you know, the

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>best player, the best player on the field with all

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 1>that young group playing was was Tyren Crawford playing as

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>the under tackle. I mean, he was the one guy

0:26:33.280 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that was actually and you know, he's a starter, and

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a reason why he's a starter, but the guys

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>around him were not showing up, and that that that

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>part of it is disappointing, because they throw you out

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>there for a reason, you know, and if you're if

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you're incapable of getting pressure or making tackles or making plays,

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>then maybe the thought about, well, wait a minute, you

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>got you guys mentioned, we got Hill here, we've got

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Taco here, as time to say, okay, well let's let's

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>see what's going on here. Let's really see what's going on.

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Because that was inexcusable the way that those guys played

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and allowed the Giants just to just to go down

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>the field, the way they did score that touch. You know,

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>when I'm looking at the tackles, you got to get

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to four the eighth guy in tackles antoine Woods with

0:27:20.760 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>two and Covington with two, and that was it on

0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the defensive line. So you got to do a better

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>job than that. Somebody's got to do something. Now, they

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>tried to. They said they were going to rotate the

0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>guys and not give them that many snaps. So Lawrence

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>ended up playing thirty two of the snaps, so thirty

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>two of the sixty nine snaps and Crawford end up

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>playing thirty of the sixty nine. But again, the idea

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was to get more versatile guys there. Well, they may

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>have to rethink that and get a pure pass rusher

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.879
<v Speaker 1>in there on one of those sides opposite to Marcus Lawrence.

0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if the approach changes going into week two.

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty one, Yes, you want to touch on him

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<v Speaker 1>before we get out of here. He got going, ended

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<v Speaker 1>up with We kept talking about twenty twenty five snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended up with thirty seven snaps in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple drives went a little longer for it, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Jason said. He pointed out that, okay, we had

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<v Speaker 1>this thing going and they weren't taking much time between

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<v Speaker 1>plays the substitute, so they left him in there no

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<v Speaker 1>worse for wear, and that thing I think physically look fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I think towards the end there that drive when he

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>ended up scoring the touchdown, he looked like he was

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit more in rhythm, that he was

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the holes a little bit better, and he was

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I think he was really conscious of making sure he

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 1>hung onto the football in a lot of those instances

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 1>because he hadn't been hit right. So that's a great point.

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 1>He got to be careful. It's one thing to be

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in shape, but that's one thing you're missing when you're

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 1>not here or just getting banged around. Why he would

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>at least got you know, touched up in the training cas. Yeah,

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>but I thought that that drive when he scored the

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>touchdown on the ten yard run, he kind of showed

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I go, okay, that's Zeke, and the run before that,

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>oh okay, I'm starting to zee Zeke. So they did

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a good job, but I'm not sure how well they

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>did run blocking. I don't know if the run blocking

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the offensive line takes a little more coordination. You know,

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's funny that, you know, there was so much success

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 1>throwing the football, and it's amazing even not running the

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>ball well, the threat or the potential of having a

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Zekiel Elliot and there affected the way the Giants played

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>their linebackers. You know, they were so conscious of stepping

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>up and trying to fill that. That's those slants and

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff were coming off the back. I mean their play action,

0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:07.440
<v Speaker 1>he fakes the inside handoff and you've got full flow

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>going one way and the next you know, they got

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>one on one on the back side with nobody in

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 1>that hole. I wouldn't have I wouldn't have run the

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.120
<v Speaker 1>ball either. I mean, if if they're gonna give you that,

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.920
<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna give you ten twelve yards every shot

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>doing that, Now you know that what I saw was

0:33:23.280 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>with the with the run blocking though is there was

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>It's it's gonna be more about getting Zeke back to

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the flow of okay, when when we get the push here,

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>making that cut here again? You know, I think he

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the timing of some of their runs wasn't as good

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>as it needed to be, But that will come. That

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>will come with practice. He just needs to get back

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>in the flow of okay when we when they pushed

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>the front side here wears it on the back side,

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Where do I need to make that cut? I think

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Zeke was instead of trying to cut the

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>ball back and make runs, he was more about let's

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 1>just press the hole, get what we can and go forward.

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Just keep That's his mindset. Wasn't about try and make

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the huge. It was just trying to get what I

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>can get there, get what I can't get there, you know.

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But throwing the football. Hell, I wouldn't. I wouldn't have

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>run the ball at all if I'd known I was

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna protect as well as I did and have receivers

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>went on the outside like they did. You know that

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>drill they do in training camp where Gary Brown basically

0:34:21.520 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the running backs coming at Gary Brown and they have

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 1>those garbage cans set up and then he gives them

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:30.919
<v Speaker 1>the number, the whole three to cut. Yeah, and I'm

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>sure they didn't do that in Cabo right right, unless

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>they lined up Margarita's and then it's like, okay, go

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>this way, go that way. He said he did try

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.200
<v Speaker 1>to simulate plays, and I don't know exactly how he

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>did it, but they probably didn't have the garbage can

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 1>zee probably not. And you know, and that's one thing

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>the running backs got to see. Kind of keep your

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>head up and you got to look for where the

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>whole at the last minute. But bunts open. I mean,

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what Barkley was doing awfully well, by the way.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but other than that, you know, from a

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>physical standpoint, they were right. He was in good enough shape.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>How many touches he ended up having thirteen runs in

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>one catch? Is that right? Yes, and one drop. Yeah.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Screen was pretty screen they set up. I talked about

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>all the movement, the pre snap movement they had just

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.279
<v Speaker 1>to get to a screen. I mean that's you know,

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and I think you'll see more. I think you'll see

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel at once again feel more comfortable with making those cuts,

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the violent cuts we've seen in you know, the Giants

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.880
<v Speaker 1>they were committed to try and like I said, step

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.719
<v Speaker 1>up and try and make tackles. They were not going

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:31.920
<v Speaker 1>to let him dictate this game. The problem is, like

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, they they let the they let the receivers

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>and tight ends just abuse him in this game. And

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, with no pass rush. I mean that that's

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a that's inexcusable for them. They've got they've got

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of issues on that that that defense for

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the Giants, they really really do. I mean, it was

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>almost like they made this bet that, by golly, we're

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 1>not letting Zeke beat us or Tony Pollard beat us.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Dak and you beat us, well, you know what, you

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>lost the bet. You lost the bet he did and

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:04.239
<v Speaker 1>after the game, you know, the contract talk was unavoidable.

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 1>And what did you hear from that in the locker room?

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Or outside the locker room with Jerry and Stephen. Yeah,

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the only thing that you know, it sounded like because

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>when Jerry was asked about it right away, he kind

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of parried the question away and we're not talking about it,

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and I guess later he said, yeah, it's imminent, So

0:36:21.120 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what imminent the definition? What does that exactly?

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>You mean like it's a it's it's right or way

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:31.719
<v Speaker 1>like maybe tomorrow, but we'll see, you know, everybody the

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>question everybody keeps asking as well, Okay, how much did

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.879
<v Speaker 1>that game cost to Cowboys? Because the price went up.

0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm thinking if you were that close to a contract,

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to sit here all of a sudden

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.399
<v Speaker 1>and rip everything up and accomplished and start again and say,

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>oh wait a minute, now you know what, we got

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 1>a perfect quarterback? Well I need ten more million dollars.

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>It just maybe it helps you resolve a little bit.

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it speeds up the process. Maybe it helps

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the little things that you haven't agreed to yet. Yeah,

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>it helps you resolve a little bit more. Maybe it

0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>solidifies your thought. They're like, okay, we're handing this hand

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>this young man a lot of money and we're going

0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to make him the future of our team, a future

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.479
<v Speaker 1>for our franchise, and maybe that gives you a little

0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 1>bit more of a Okay, we saw some of those things.

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:15.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what we always talk about. Scouts and first front

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:18.919
<v Speaker 1>office guys always want to see players perform well. And

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, clearly with him and Kellen Moore and the

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 1>way that this, uh, this offense looked yesterday throwing the football.

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, that gives you some hope that all the

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 1>things of working with John kitt and all the things

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>they did this summer, all the extra work, everything about

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that was at least for one game, was very very positive.

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing I think it does is reinforce

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts that, Okay, I'm gonna make this purchase. Think

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>about when you've made a big purchase and then you

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>sit there and do it and you go, God, what

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>did I just do? And then you know, once you

0:37:49.000 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>get whatever you had and it's what you thought it was,

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you're going, Okay, this was good. So maybe this gives them,

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, no buyer's remorse here when you seems like

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 1>absolutely anything off periscope that's cooking. Brian. Before we get

0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>out of here, any guys want to touch on that

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>we haven't touched on. Now. They're just they're out, They're

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>they're concerned about the the they were wondering what we

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>thought about the linebacker play overall. I know, I think

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>vander Esh was second on the list in tackles the nine. Yeah,

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you know with Jalen, you know, to me,

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I was I was expecting a bigger game from those guys.

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I know, because Layton Vanderus was like my guy, my

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>pick to click guy. Because because I didn't feel like well,

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like though that the Giants would be

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>able to get to the linebackers. I thought all I mean,

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I thought all three linebackers were going to play really

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>really well in that game. But you know, vander Esh

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>other than Mickey, talked about the one time that he

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>got got hooked pretty good. But yeah, I think that

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they as a group, they would probably watch that tape

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and see they need to play a little bit. I

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>think the front seven and as a whole probably feels

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>like they need to play a little bit better. And

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:54.240
<v Speaker 1>then again, you know, people are also asking about Anthony Brown.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>They're saying, hey, when does Byron Jones get back into

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>the into the mix, and I wrote last night this

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.240
<v Speaker 1>this could be the week that we could see Byron

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Jones back there. It is starting right cornerspack spot because

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>now he's got some time to practice. He got some

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>work in the dime and the nickel and stuff like that. Yes,

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact that the one he had some

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>coverage on Evan Ingram was was incomplete. So it was

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>good to see him back doing those kinds of things.

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, this could be the week that we

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>see them flip that that out now and go back

0:39:22.480 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 1>with Byron Jones after he made it through this game.

0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>What do you get, Mick, like twenty snaps twenty five?

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Who's at Yeah? Uh eight? Not bad? And you know

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>what the one the one play the Brown if I'm

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 1>remembering correctly, the catch Foler made on the sideline. Yeah,

0:39:42.000 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was just a great effort. Oh no,

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>no questioning you can do. But I thought it was

0:39:49.640 --> 0:39:52.040
<v Speaker 1>it was on the left, Yeah it was, he was right. Yeah,

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>so I thought it was Brown. Brown missed one tackle.

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>He got blocked on that one run. But I mean

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.080
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like that, you know, it didn't seem like

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>they were just a ripping them down the field. Ye,

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I think Jones helps out and Brown goes

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 1>back in the slot and Jordan Lewis got beat a

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 1>couple of times in there. But a lot of the

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff they did, you know, a lot of it was

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just dump off stuff and they had to come up

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and rally to the ball. All right, Well that was

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>a quick wrap up, huh. We rallied to the end

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of the show. A lot to talk about flew by quickly.

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back tomorrow to continue breaking down what you

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 1>saw in week one. Maybe look ahead to the Redskins. Skins,

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you guys joining Which half do you want to

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>look forward to? I've watched both so far. Yeah, I

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say there's a lot first half. For the

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>second half, there's a lot to unpack there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you guys on Tuesday. The break is next.

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