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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast. We're also available for children's parties.

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Speaker 1: Some of us welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, presented by the United States Marine Corps.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansson, joined in a room filled

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Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Cesla, Chris Westling, and Greg grows with

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Speaker 1: what is up? As, Hey, Dan? I do it I

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Speaker 1: do with children's party? Multiple streams of income. I was

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Speaker 1: just saying, legally not everyone in the room can do it. Now,

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Speaker 1: Am I gonna say who it is or who they are?

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Speaker 1: I can't say anything else. Just let the let the

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Speaker 1: audience decide big it is. That's a cliffhanger, folks. At

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Speaker 1: the end of this episode, you'll find out who is

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Speaker 1: not legally allowed to attend a children's birthday party. Now

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Speaker 1: that's how you get into That's how you hold people

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Speaker 1: and bring him back. Why is your chair so high, Craig.

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Speaker 1: One of the great American long forms of all time

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Speaker 1: is a Washington Post article about a clown who does Chris,

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Speaker 1: who does children's shows. It's a really good long form. Interesting.

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Speaker 1: There's also John Wayne Gacy. Yeah, I wouldn't associate him

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Speaker 1: with that clown. Yeah, different clown, all right, This is

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Speaker 1: an odd start to the really Jackets start. Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: week fourteen, and we talked about it um on Thursday's

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Speaker 1: preview show that we had some A plus games and

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Speaker 1: a minus game. That's a Sunday night game we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about. We had a B plus game and then

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Speaker 1: a bunch of filler. But you know what, when it's

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Speaker 1: July and when you're watching preseason games and taking them

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Speaker 1: too seriously, you're gonna miss even these bad games, Greg.

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Speaker 1: In the regular season, you're gonna miss him if you

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Speaker 1: missed the bigger games more. And this is what we've

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Speaker 1: been building to absolutely and uh yeah, So we have

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Speaker 1: some games. You know, the complexion of both the a

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Speaker 1: in the wild card hunt. Greg, this is where you

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Speaker 1: really shine. You're the You're our conscience, You're our guide

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Speaker 1: mathematically when it comes to figure out who's in, who's out,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with Really, I gotta say, in all

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Speaker 1: my years at the NFL one of the best games

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Speaker 1: I ever watched. The newsroom. It occurred down in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans the Superdome. To be exact, Ritchie James, you're you're right,

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Speaker 1: drop him back? He throws on left talk. George Kindled

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Speaker 1: the stiff firm? Marcus, will you grab his face mask? Face?

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a penalty on New Orleans. George Kindle

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Speaker 1: Baltic Kittle on the outcut, went down the sideline and

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Speaker 1: that was Marcus Williams who gave up the Minneapolis miracle.

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Speaker 1: You just lost the game for the Saint Papa Tim

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Speaker 1: Ryan forty Niners Radio Network. Yes, Jimmy Garoppola's clutch completion

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Speaker 1: to George Kittle, who rumbles thirty nine yards, gets that

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Speaker 1: Poor Marcus Williams with the call leads to Robbie Gold's

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Speaker 1: The Niners pull out at six win over the Saints,

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Speaker 1: a game that, as of when we're talking in this

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Speaker 1: He played like one. He's done it several times this season,

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Speaker 1: find a way that Buffalo was gonna score in this game.

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Speaker 1: And the Ravens lost Mark Andrews, their playmaking tight end,

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Speaker 1: and they never really thought found a way to get

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Speaker 1: out of that situation. He's so important to them. I

431
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: think that game, this game magnified how important he is.

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Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst had a one of his rare big play

433
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Speaker 1: scores today, but you take that away, this game would

434
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Speaker 1: have been I think a really rough asked for Baltimore

435
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,400
Speaker 1: because Buffalo fought and fought in the second half. When

436
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: you watch in that second half, they have nothing on offense,

437
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, Devin Singletary doesn't something really

438
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: nice for you, but then it's taken back by penalty.

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00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: And then Josh Allen, you know, he's not no interceptions,

440
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: so he's not turning the ball over, but you can't

441
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Speaker 1: count on him to make those window throws that you need.

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Speaker 1: And that coverage by Marcus Peters at the end. If want,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about shot like he had one

444
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Speaker 1: of him on John Brown is one of the great

445
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: cornerback efforts today. I have seen um and with on

446
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Speaker 1: the Bills in and no one's gonna take anything away

447
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: from the ninety three start, or that they went to

448
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Speaker 1: Dallas um and one on Thanksgiving, but this did feel

449
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Speaker 1: like another chance of the Bills to you know, put

450
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Speaker 1: a big stamp on the season to say, not only

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Speaker 1: are we a team that's going to the playoffs, we're

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Speaker 1: a team you better watch out because we you know,

453
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Speaker 1: we might win some games and make a run. They

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Speaker 1: almost beat the Patriots in their building. Now they almost

455
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Speaker 1: beat the Ravens. So I think, as much as it

456
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: might annoy fans in Western New York, you do have

457
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Speaker 1: to figure out how to win a game like this

458
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Speaker 1: to really get people to believe. Yeah, and who knows

459
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Speaker 1: what beating the Cowboys means now or what it will

460
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Speaker 1: mean in a month. Although I just keeping it close

461
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Speaker 1: against three, I'm so impressed with the Ravens in general

462
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: that to you know, getting it to a point where

463
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: it comes down in the last play, to me is

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Speaker 1: a step forward and signed their playing better than they

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Speaker 1: did earlier in the season. Here are the records of

466
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Speaker 1: the last seven teams that the Ravens beat nine and four,

467
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: eleven and two, seven and five, eight and five, one

468
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: and twelve, ten and three, and then a ten win

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Speaker 1: Seahawks team. So they're they're winning all these games against

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Speaker 1: like great teams. And I guess the last two weeks

471
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Speaker 1: have shown you can hold their offense down in some

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Speaker 1: rough weather conditions. I mean, they didn't exactly, you know,

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Speaker 1: rack up yardage in either of those games, and those

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Speaker 1: games came down to the wire. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: And it's about as good a regular season as you

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Speaker 1: can have with two losses. I think we all kind

477
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Speaker 1: of looked at the Bills schedule a few weeks ago

478
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Speaker 1: and said, even if we we respect him, that lead

479
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: in the wild card race is gonna dwindle when they

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00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: play these tougher teams. And now you look up, Titans

481
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: and Steelers are only one game behind them, and the

482
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Speaker 1: Bills have to go into Pittsburgh next week the game

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Speaker 1: a team that is ruling in a defense which I

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Speaker 1: believe is better than Buffalo's. Same kind of quarterback issues.

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Speaker 1: You don't trust the quarterback from week to week on

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Speaker 1: either team in prime time in primetime, right if you

487
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Speaker 1: want to like try to imagine or picture away that

488
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Speaker 1: Buffalo wins a playoff game and caps this awesome regular season.

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Speaker 1: It has to happen in Buffalo. And to Alan's credit,

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Speaker 1: although he had a tough game and he was in

491
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Speaker 1: the Luke Fox zone today, three point seven yuards couldn't

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Speaker 1: get attempt um. He did ball out with millions and

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Speaker 1: millions of people watching on Thanksgiving, So I think he

494
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Speaker 1: could step up in primetime. But that's another big test

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Speaker 1: for him, and that entire Bill's teams from him, including

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Speaker 1: you know, a key lost fumble. He'll do that and

497
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Speaker 1: that's I think why they're afraid of him, you know,

498
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: running around so much. I think the number was one

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Speaker 1: for eleven on throws over fifteen yards, one for sixteen

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Speaker 1: went under durest. So the Ravens one upfront and Alan

501
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: clearly didn't four for seventeen on third down and it

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Speaker 1: looked that way. And yes, the lost fumble was I

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Speaker 1: I just think that he was hurt at one point.

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00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: He hurt his ankle and he was hoppling around. He

505
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Speaker 1: wasn't the same guy. You take that punishment over and over,

506
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Speaker 1: they're gonna get you amazing to fifty seven yards for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. All right, let us now stay in the

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Speaker 1: a f c UH playoff chase with a game with

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Speaker 1: huge wild card and division ravvications. Tannehill works under center,

510
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Speaker 1: two receivers to the left. Crowd gets loud bay fake

511
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: Tannahill looking throwing deep down the middle, going for Brown.

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Speaker 1: Brown's got it at the fifty, breaks the tackle of

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Speaker 1: the forty, to the thirty, to the twenty, to the ten,

514
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Speaker 1: to the five to the end zone. Ladies and gentlemen,

515
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: That is ninety one yards touchsdown. Titans their longest touchdown

516
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: pass in over five years. That was so great and

517
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: it happened here. That came straight out of the black hole,

518
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Speaker 1: right down to the other end. Mike Keith and Dave

519
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: McGinnis with a call, Titans, you know what to do, Ricky,

520
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: bring me the girl? WHOA Now you gotta check out

521
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: the YouTube show what are we wearing? I'm looking spelled.

522
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: I like it. The surge its Titans keeps surging. Ryan's

523
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: Hannehill through yards, three scores, Derrick Henry two more touchdowns.

524
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Speaker 1: He goes over a hundred yards. He cannot be contained,

525
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: and he made it look easy even with his leg

526
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: taped up the Titans four straight wins. Now beat up

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Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. You know, put the Raiders under the

528
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Speaker 1: ground one at the black hole and um, the Titans.

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Speaker 1: You know, it started out not so hot. Uh. They

530
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Speaker 1: there was a deflected interception, big man run back for

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. They punch it in touchdown. But from that

532
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: point on at seven nothing, he just took over the game.

533
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Speaker 1: And and Oakland, who was undermanned and didn't have Josh Jacobs.

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00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: Damn it. That's on me for not tracking that closely

535
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Speaker 1: enough because I locked up the Raiders. That didn't work out. Um,

536
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: but they were you know, to their credit, Oakland kept

537
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: pace and it was at a half uh, and then

538
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: the Titans just took over. Um. They scored touchdowns on

539
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Speaker 1: five of their next seven possessions after that open opening

540
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: Raiders score. And they are six and one with Tannehill

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Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback and west uh. Reports started

542
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: percolating over the weekend that the Titans might be looking

543
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: to do business with Ryan Tannehill, who's do can be

544
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: franchise at the quarterback rate of twenty seven million, but

545
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: they might want to get into business in a long

546
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: term way. And the way he's playing this doesn't feel unsustainable.

547
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: It feels like he has found a home here. Well,

548
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: that team that nobody wanted to watch with Marcus Mariota,

549
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: the team that couldn't move the chains, couldn't keep their

550
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: quarterback upright and off the ground, the Titoons is now

551
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: a high octane thirty point a week attack that have

552
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: five hundred yards by the end of the third quarter

553
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: in today's game, and come back Player of the Year.

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00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: I wrote about it a couple of weeks ago. I

555
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: did not include Tannehill because you're checking some boxes and

556
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at players coming back from major injury or

557
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: some kind of life event, and I think that award

558
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: it's not there's no real definition for it. It's sort

559
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: of like the threshold for obscenity by Um Potter Stewart.

560
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: Judge Potter Stewart. I know it when I see it.

561
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: You know a comeback story when you see it. Ryan

562
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Tannehill was given up for dead by the Dolphins and

563
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: given away to the Titans, comes off to the bench

564
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: and because of him, completely turned the team around. That's

565
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: a comeback players. One of the great comeback stories of

566
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Speaker 1: the decade. I agree. Tannehill was just the guy. When

567
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: he was signed as a backup quarterback, I think everybody

568
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that was pretty good signing. That gives

569
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: him a choice of Mariota struggles again, but nobody, nobody

570
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: thought he would take over the offense and then turn

571
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Speaker 1: it into one of the more lethal tacks in the

572
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Speaker 1: a f C nine him. Look at Arthur Smith vying

573
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Speaker 1: for coordinator. I mean, we hit the game, the games

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Speaker 1: with Mariota, Yeah, the games with Mariota still counting against

575
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: the record, but nine point four yards per attempt. The

576
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: Raiders defense just they hadn't They never had a chance

577
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: this year. I don't believe they never they ever really

578
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: had a chance because I think they were ranked in

579
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: my mind either thirty one thirty second in talent on defense,

580
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: and they were always just trying to scheme around that

581
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: and figure it out. And they did a pretty good

582
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: job getting a six and seven, and maybe they'll get

583
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: to eight and eight. But it's like they were never

584
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: going to be explosive enough to keep up with this defense.

585
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Who's better at football the New England Patriots of the

586
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans as we stand right now. I think if

587
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: it was a new trush field right now we are

588
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: right now, I think it was a neutral field. Titans

589
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: might be favored playing They don't need to score this

590
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: many points every week either because their defense is legit.

591
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: So it's like they're a balanced team and they're getting

592
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: hot at the exact But the crazy thing is Tannehill

593
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: only every week he only throws it seven this week.

594
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: That's a lot of throws for Tannehill usually doesn't even

595
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: have to. Now they the wind moves them into a

596
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: first place tie with the Texans. And now it gets

597
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: interesting because they play twice in the final three weeks,

598
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: which is wild. I don't love the scheduling to pack

599
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: them together, like, but you know what, Uh it is

600
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: what it is, So let's just ride with it and

601
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: and enjoy the carnage because uh that is going to

602
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we could see both of these teams in

603
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, or one of these teams could absolutely take

604
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: out an arch rival in the biggest way in the

605
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: final three weeks of the year. It's is nail biting

606
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: time in Houston, and we're gonna get to the Texans.

607
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, where we stand right now, who's the

608
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: better team that the Titans of the Texans. After what

609
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: we saw today, one team is more consistent than the other.

610
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: The Titans show up every week. The difference is that

611
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: the Texans are gonna have the tiebreaker if they split

612
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: and if their other game goes the Texans way, because

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00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: the Titans have an extra division loss, UH so they

614
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: they would win on that tiebreaker. The Texans play at

615
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: Tampa in week week sixteen, that is their extra game,

616
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: whereas the Titans uh plays the Saints. So who knows.

617
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean, anything could happen, but it's still an uphill

618
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: battle for the Titans. They might need to sweep it

619
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Speaker 1: to to get the division and hopefully Derrick Henry's okay.

620
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: He had a leg injury. Um, he left the game briefly,

621
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Speaker 1: and like I said, he had his leg taped up.

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: I think it was a hamstring. They were two and four, UM,

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Speaker 1: and he just boring and bad. Henry Henry just made

624
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Speaker 1: it look easy. He didn't. It didn't even seem like

625
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: he was trying that hard. Obviously he was. And he

626
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: just went over a hundred scored two more touchdowns. It's

627
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: it's he's having a special speci. No one other thing

628
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: that Marcus Mariota could not have pulled off. Today. Was

629
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Speaker 1: the insane Ryan Tannehill darting down the field to blow

630
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: up Maurice Hurst. One of the best tackles I've seen

631
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Speaker 1: in the entire year coming from a quarterback. He's a

632
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: great tackling quarterback. That was like twitter joke of mine

633
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: back in when he just was throwing pick after pick.

634
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Speaker 1: By the way, look out, Derrick Henry. I know if

635
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: this is updated, he is just behind Christian McCaffrey at

636
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Speaker 1: number three. Um he he has he could win the

637
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: rushing title, but not And this is not, you know,

638
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: an attack on you at all, Dan, which is a

639
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: bad way to preface anything. But there is a trend

640
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: right now of like guys who leave Adam Gaze and

641
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: are playing playing better without him, and especially at the

642
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I think that's you know, that's significant. Uh yeah, sure,

643
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: I will say that that Tannehill did. It's not aboue

644
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: look about me. Don't proface it by mentioning Bryan Tannehill

645
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: did look really good with Adam Gaze and then he

646
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: blew out his knee and thanks got walk had some

647
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: had some moments. But whatever I attempted at the same

648
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: point with Dan on the Thursday show. I wasn't gonna

649
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: go back down. Yeah, if you guys want to bring

650
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: it up every week, it's it's not like my uncle.

651
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: It's not like it hurts me. He's just the coach

652
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: that will be fired before long, just another Jets coach.

653
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: I am under the attemption that any Jets talk is personal.

654
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: He's Christy for the something. I mean, I don't take

655
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: it personally in this case. I mean, that's that's undeniable

656
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: that Dolphins players have done well without Mr Gays. All right,

657
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: let's now talk about the Houston Texans. My goodness, Denver

658
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: looks like the RuSHA three. They will watching quick for

659
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: a winside pass. Caught g t q T again, but

660
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: he fumbled the football and is picked up by Jeremiah

661
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: Tosshu who hands it to Kareem Jackson. Jackson's on the loose.

662
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Jackson and the foot race and here you got thirty

663
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: down the Broncos side ten high stepping into the end zone.

664
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Touchdown Denver, no whistle, no flags. If it stands, it

665
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: would be the Broncos first defensive touchdown of the year.

666
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: It did stand. Dave Logan, Broncos Radio Network. My goodness,

667
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: Craim Jackson had an intercession returned to fumble seventy yards touchdown,

668
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: gains his old team and drew lock the kid grow

669
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: that beard doesn't matter. More important that you're playing well

670
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: through four three yards of three touchdowns, all three of

671
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: those scores in the first half. The Broncos blow the

672
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: doors off. The Texans. Don't even pay attention to their

673
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: final score. This game was thirty one three at the half.

674
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: Greg After the game, von Miller said this of his

675
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: rookie quarter rookie quarterback, incredible. That guy's an effing rock star.

676
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 1: The Broncos have something here, I hope so it will

677
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: make them more watchable. I don't take von miller um

678
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: hype like too seriously because he did call both Paxton

679
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Lynch and Trevor Simme in the next Peyton Manning. I

680
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: believe what did he call him? Effing rock star? No.

681
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: I love von Miller. I love hearing about von Miller.

682
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: He's playing on a bum knee. By the way, today,

683
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: he had to play on the opposite side of the

684
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: field because he can only rush in one way. I

685
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: had to do it against Tunsil and he still got

686
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: a couple of quarterback kits, they said after the Vikings game,

687
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: And I know I wasn't playing the start with this,

688
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: but I love von Miller. After the Vikings game, that

689
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: terrible loss that he had, he went up and down

690
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: on the plane and told invited everyone out to dinner

691
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: that night. And they went out that night like trying

692
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: to fire everyone up after the worst last of the year.

693
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: And this team plays like a team that's still in

694
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: the mix. Like there. If you want to judge your

695
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: coaches by how hard your team plays, the Broncos show

696
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: up each and every week. They're very unlucky to be

697
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: only five and eight, and they are the NFL's berserker

698
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: because you don't want to play him in December. This

699
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: is exactly exactly how John Elway, uh and Vic Hajio

700
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: wanted this season to close. Once you realize that you

701
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: weren't gonna make the playoffs, forget about tanking and hoping

702
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: you find the next quarterback. Get put something on tape

703
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: that you feel good about and that you feel like

704
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: you figured some things out and you're not on the rock.

705
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: It's not just all about being on the wrong side

706
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: of field goal luck. At the end of games. They

707
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: are a team that's making progress west as the game,

708
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: as the season goes along, and it is the credit

709
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: to the players and the coach. Dave unearthed some absolute

710
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: stars on this team. Justin Simmons at safety is having

711
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: an All Pro year, Alexander Johnson at linebacker has come

712
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: out of nowhere to make a pretty big All Pro bid.

713
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: They're turning their defense around. Courtland's Sutton been a fine

714
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: and now Drew Lock is the X factor if he's

715
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: really this good. Right, we'll see yes the next three

716
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: weeks for the Broncos and then in the offset it's

717
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: all about just trying to find out about Lock. Now.

718
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: He didn't have to do too much last week. This

719
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: week he made a handful of nice throws against pressure

720
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: early in the game. Absolutely didn't have to do much

721
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: in the second half. That that's fine. I also give

722
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: their their coaching staff and in my guy Rich Skangarello,

723
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: who I was like, this guy's not giving them a

724
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: big advantage like open places and that was the opposite today. Uh,

725
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: there were a lot of open receivers. No. A fan

726
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: made two big place for for one thirteen before he

727
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: got hurt. Uh in a touchdown caught all of his targets,

728
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: and there were there were open players for uh for

729
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Lock to go to. They didn't run the ball well

730
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: at all. They had thirty eight points before they had

731
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: thirty eight rushing yards because it was a pass heavy

732
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: attack that the Texans didn't know. I hit him. Do

733
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: not go and place faith in this Texans defense. I

734
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: just don't get. This is the most disc whoting result

735
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: from today because we are coming off a week where

736
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: the Texans fried the Patriots and it was this. There's

737
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: the game that re emphasizes everything good you think about

738
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: the Texans, and they could be wild, they could catch

739
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: a three game windstreak and wind up in the Super Bowl.

740
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: But I think they're much more likely to ultimately every

741
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: week lay an egg like this because this is not

742
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: This has happened throughout this entire season. They've been brutally inconsistent,

743
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: but it's still it doesn't I don't know what I

744
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: take out of this game other than that they can.

745
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: But there's the thing. The defense is a game plan defense,

746
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: or maybe sometimes it works, but man, and when they

747
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: had no pass rush, they're getting destroyed in terms of

748
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: their linebackers. Their linebackers in coverage were awful. They were

749
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: the same guys who showed up to the game dressed

750
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: up as uh the Dodgeball movie concluding a wheelchair guy

751
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: as a prop. Don't put a guy in a wheelchair.

752
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: And then that guy, I mean, you hate to point

753
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: it out, did limp off the field with you know

754
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 1: now it needs a wheelchair. Well, as my mother says,

755
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: don't spit in the sky, that's how you get I

756
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: don't like that West. To your credit, on Thursday, you

757
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: did ask the question. He said, what about this Texans

758
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: defense can they make? Is this a defense to be trusted?

759
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: And the Broncos, even though they are improving, this is

760
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: not an offense that you teams live in fear of.

761
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: What do we expect when they play the big boys?

762
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: You know what they're missing Kareem Jackson. They ought to

763
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: They ought to melt his helmet trophy out to give

764
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: it to the winner of this team every year because

765
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: he tips the field every time this game is played. Right,

766
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: you said that was the best game anyone played all year.

767
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson against the Broncos last year. It was so

768
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: good that they had to give him a monster contract.

769
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: He had three passes defense on top of the interception.

770
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: Eleven tags. I mean he was just flying around, got

771
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Good job. I mean you can shut down

772
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but the idea that you're gonna shut down

773
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Drew Luck and his second start is beyond. Will Fuller

774
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: is the Jenga piece for this team and will Fuller

775
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: is out. They are not the same. And it was

776
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I feel like he's out every their game too, right.

777
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: This is just it was his replacement QT who had

778
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: that killer fumble, Rick s Gangarrello Skangs, Papaskango. Remember Papa Shango.

779
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: He was one of the more ethnically questionable wrestling gimmicks

780
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: of the early nineties. Some type of voodoo guy. I'd

781
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: agree with that. He had a lot of You don't

782
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: believe that he put a curse on the Alternate Warrior.

783
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I remember during one interview where the Warrior was given

784
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 1: an interview to me and Jean, and then all of

785
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, like a black goose started running down his face.

786
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Why is heart exploded? I don't know Papa Shango had

787
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 1: put a curse upon the Alternate Warrior. This is during

788
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: kind of a fallow period in the witt It's not

789
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: a h a lot of blank faces in the control

790
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: room right now, but there are definitely four hundred wrestling

791
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: fans listening right now, Like I love Dan Way to

792
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: bring up Shango in a big spot. All right, let's

793
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: move on. Bartlett pumped his fish. Here's the stop pass

794
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: right out the point to make fundball football picked up

795
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: by the Buck Fox tamp the ball, Tampa Baya's course

796
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: to take away. It's Mike Edwards with the football, Harlan

797
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: rolling on the Tampa Bay lounger ares forts the first

798
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: take away the game. Jen Decker off Bucks Radio Network.

799
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston through her four hundred fifty six yards at

800
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, helping the Bucks rally beating the Colts five.

801
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: See this is like a chase through the streets of

802
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: old school Los Angeles cops and Roberts seven West. Winston

803
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: also threw three interceptions, including his fifth pick six. Wow,

804
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: is that I have the double check? That's that. But

805
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: it's another quintessential Jamis game. What do you make of

806
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: this wild up and down Jamie season. It almost seems

807
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: like a Jamie season at steroids this year. Yeah, it's

808
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: like a refined version of Jamis Winston. It's just like

809
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: distilled through three hours of simmering into four fifty yards,

810
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, and three interceptions, which is as Jamis as

811
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: you can possibly get, and he joins Gus Farrott as

812
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: the only other winning quarterbacks to reach those statistical markers

813
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: in a game and still win. He should have had

814
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: another interception that might have blown the game, but Pierre

815
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: to see her uh dropped it in a thirty game.

816
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: And what happened after that was the Devin White fumble

817
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: was huge because it had come after Marcus Johnson, who

818
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: had a pretty big game for the Colts, drew a

819
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: long pass interference penalty. Naim Hines is in the red

820
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: sun the Colts. Colts are driving for the score. That's

821
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna put the game away. Devin White pokes it out

822
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: and then Jamis throws an interception right after that, throws

823
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: behind Paraman, it's tipped and goes to Lee Hooker, but

824
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: he ends up coming back again with another opportunity, which

825
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: Jacoby percent I thought, for three quarters played my favorite

826
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: game I've ever seen him play, just stepping up in

827
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: the pocket, getting away from pressure, taking chances downfield, and

828
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: he never throws downfield, so it was nice to see

829
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: him doing that attacking downfield. He didn't do much in

830
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and Jamis did. It should be noted

831
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston suffered at what Bruce Arians labeled a little

832
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: bitty fracture in his right thumb. Played the second half

833
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: with the injury. He had some issues gripping the football. Uh,

834
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: it's a credit to Winston playing through an injury. There

835
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: also the most playing through the injury and putting the

836
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: most yards on the Colts since that game. I know

837
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: you guys remember this as soon as I say that

838
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: game where Big Ben and Andrew Luck combined for like

839
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: almost a hundred points and maybe the best passing game

840
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: I've ever seen by a pair of quarterbacks. Winston with

841
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: Thruce Arians. I guess this was We should have known

842
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: this was coming because it's like, it's all risk it,

843
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: it's all bestcuits, it's all Winston. Like that, you're getting

844
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: everything that you could possibly get. At least you are

845
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: getting you know, you're getting the interceptions, but at least

846
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: you're getting the four fifties and four Like sometimes is

847
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: that there's so much focus on the interception and you think,

848
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: like maybe he's unlucky. No, he has the appropriate amount

849
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of dropped interceptions, but you are

850
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: getting the four fifties, six and four like that should

851
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: be that should be accounted. We got risk its biscuits

852
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: and briskets in this game. That's pretty good. That's good football.

853
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: Are they going to bring him back now because of

854
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: this late season? So well, that's the question of kind

855
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: of posing. It's like it sounds like they want to. Yeah,

856
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: if he annoyed you, if he's annoyed to his whole career,

857
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 1: if the Bucks have been quietly or not so quietly

858
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: doubting whether he's the guy. Has this season reinforced their

859
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: feeling or has it gone the other way? Do they

860
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: see these big plays and the fact that he's gonna

861
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: throw for probably close to five thousand yards and thirty

862
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, whatever he's gonna end up with, will they

863
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: be swayed by that? You know that trope when people say,

864
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's open in college football, where there's a

865
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: big window you throw too, but in the NFL, you're

866
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: only open if you have like a little bit of

867
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: a step on the receiver. Jamis Winston's open is like

868
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: if you have an inch on your on your cornerback.

869
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: He's throwing it and I think that's gonna plague him

870
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: for the rest of his Yeah, I think so too,

871
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: And I think I think the decision will be up

872
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: to Jamis Winston on some level, because I think the

873
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: Bucks will absolutely offer him a competitive enough contract, and

874
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,959
Speaker 1: I'm not sure anyone else Like to me, he's gonna

875
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: be worth more to them than anyone else, and I

876
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: think he's probably gonna want to stay there and it

877
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: might get worked out before you even get the free agency.

878
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of a hilarious season he's having. Yes, that

879
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: was his fifth pips picks six of the season. He's

880
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: on pace for to throw forty yards, averaging eight yards attempt,

881
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: nearly twenty nine touchdowns and rested in peace. Yeah, they're done,

882
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: six and seven, it's over. You lost those two uh

883
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: two games behind now with three to play. Whereas Matt

884
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: Gage drilled a field goal right after Pierre Decier dropped

885
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: that interception, the Colts missed another kick. Chase McLaughlin missed

886
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: a kick today and he made a couple too, But

887
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: the Colts have missed fifteen kicks this year, the most

888
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and it's cost them thirty three points. Well, yeah,

889
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: the eight and eight tenants line is thin. If your

890
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: kicker keeps missing, you're gonna probably end up on the

891
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: wrong side of that. Let us move on and puts

892
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: it out of there a big rush. Deante Johnson has

893
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: to chase it back, takes it his own seventeen yard

894
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: line up to the fifth twenty the twenty five curty.

895
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: He's off for the racist forty forty five forty thirty

896
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: five thirty twenty five twenty there goes Deante Johnson. Well

897
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: then return touchdown. I don't see any markers down to you. Oh, Pilly,

898
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: I do not. I was saying every time he catches

899
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 1: the ball, you'll hold chip breath. And now he finally

900
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: took it to the house. His longest previous part return

901
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: unch was fourteen yards. This one to the house. Bill

902
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: hill Grove and touch iillkin Grove and Tounch in the morning.

903
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: That's a good team, Steelers Radio Network. Deante Johnson eighty

904
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: five yards to the house on a punt return. He

905
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: also had a touchdown reception. Steelers beat the Cardinals seen

906
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: in Arizona in Glendale with a billion Steelers fans in attendance.

907
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: West the days of the Killer Bees and blowing off

908
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the doors, blowing the doors off lesser teams like the Cardinals.

909
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: That's over in Pittsburgh at least for now. But hey,

910
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 1: a dub is a dub, and the Steelers keep stacking.

911
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: It would have been interesting to see if the Steelers

912
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: blew the doors off this Cardinals team had Benny Snell

913
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: not fumbled and given the Cardinals crime field position. When

914
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers were threatened to run away with the game early,

915
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: they let the Cardinals back into it and then it

916
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: became a bit of a slug fest. But I would

917
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: say my opinion on their quarterback situation had a lot

918
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: more to do with Mason Rudolph than Duck Hodges. I've

919
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: been a little bit fearful that Duck wouldn't get it done.

920
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not the most talented guy in the world.

921
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: Every week that goes by, now I'm a little more

922
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: confident in Duck Hodges. You're starting to see that the receivers.

923
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: James Washington was coming off two big is back to back,

924
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: and he drew a couple of penalties today that his

925
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: numbers don't look as good as as he played. Deonte

926
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Johnson after having an awful game last week, comes back

927
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: and has his coming out party this year with the

928
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: punt return. And then he had a great play in

929
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: the red zone where you think he's getting tackled for

930
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: a big loss, and his punt return skills come out

931
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: and he sets up his own touchdown with that play.

932
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: He had a really nice game. Duck Hodges started out

933
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: eight for eight on third downs and he only missed

934
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: three completions all game. So you're you're talking about a

935
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: guy who is certainly not hurting his team and in

936
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: many cases is helping his team. Greg, you mentioned the

937
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Patriots. Is being so vastly different than

938
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: they were in the a f C Championship. The lineup

939
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: in the box score for the Steelers week to week

940
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: is ultra insane. I mean, obviously it starts with Duck

941
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: at quarterback, but Kirath White is running for eight yards

942
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: per carry. It's the Benny Snells. It's like everyone that

943
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: was there is no longer there, and they are winning

944
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: these games and they were currently had the tiebreaker over

945
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: Tennessee Well Defensive Player of the Year candidate t J.

946
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: Watt had an interception in the end zone on a

947
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: play where Kyler Murray probably could have kept the ball

948
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: and run and picked up the first down or touchdown

949
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: on fourth down, but he passed it instead. And I

950
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: don't think Kyler is himself while playing through this. I

951
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: think it's a hamstring injury. He's not really effective as

952
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: a scrambler right now and that's a big part of

953
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: his game. Uh And t J. Watt. It was interesting

954
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: that Tomlin told the CBS crew if you if you

955
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 1: asked me in September, who's the leader of your defense,

956
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: it's Cameron Hayward. And he said, now it's definitely t J.

957
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: Watt And it's been fun to watch him. Just take

958
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: ownership of that situation. Any concern of Kyler's decision making

959
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: three interceptions fumble, it takes a lot of sacks. I

960
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: know it's not a good offensive line, but a lot

961
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: of that is on him. It seems like it's it's

962
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: slowing down. Maybe it is this hamstring injury. Well, I

963
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: think it's a combination of the hamstring injury and an

964
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: erosion of trust with his offensive line, which I think

965
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: early in the season, I was surprised he wasn't getting

966
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: sacked more often, considering how bad they were, and now

967
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: it feels like it's been building up over time to

968
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: the point where he doesn't trust him much. Al Right,

969
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is chasing that wild card spotting there in good

970
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 1: position right now. Uh, let's see another let's check out

971
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: another team. Uh, gunning for a wild card slot. Hayfield shotgunt,

972
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: He's got the snap back, settles, looks up in the pocket,

973
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: runs up to the corner. He said the tad, he

974
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: said the five. He tucks around the pylon. No, sick up,

975
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: happy dude. Touchdown Baker Mayfield, what a job by his body.

976
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: Don't hung around the pilot and get it in as

977
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: he runs it in from seven yards song curt and

978
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: goals tie it at thirteen. Jim Donovan Brown's Radio Network

979
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: with a call. Guess Baker Mayfield didn't throw for a touchdown,

980
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: but he did run for one as the cream hunt.

981
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb went over a hundred, including ninety nine after

982
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: the halftime break. Cleveland stays alive in the a f

983
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: C Playoff Pics nineteen win over the Bengals, who come

984
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: down to earth after their first win of the year. Mark, Uh,

985
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: this doesn't sound like a flawless effort for the Browns,

986
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: but hey, I need the wind got the win. Well,

987
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't really specialize in flawless efforts, and I my

988
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: biggest concern with the way this game started was that

989
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: this is a Cincinnati is the worst run defense in

990
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: the league, and they played better of late and there

991
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: it's not that's you know, that's the collective stats there.

992
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: But Cleveland had Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt with seventeen

993
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: combined yards at halftime in a game that I thought

994
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: this was where you just at home, pound away with

995
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: your best player, Nick Chubb and used Cream Hunt the

996
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: way you've used them, and don't put Baker Mayfield into

997
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: strange situations through the air. They they took them a

998
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: long time until that touchdown. We just showed to get

999
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: their flow together and then from there they took care

1000
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: of business. And you look at these you look at

1001
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: the stats and it's like Andy Dalton no touchdowns and

1002
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: he had to pick six. I thought he Pray played

1003
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: pretty well. Actually, I mean, it's just that there's not

1004
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: much around any Dalton. Joe Mixon had one of his

1005
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: best games of the year. The Browns, to me, are

1006
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: not a playoff team on any level at this point,

1007
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: because they seemed to be I think definitely a year

1008
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: away and a lot of different categories and ways of

1009
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,760
Speaker 1: really being an effective offense at all. They seemed mentally

1010
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: discombobulated in terms of their game planning. I don't trust

1011
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: their coaching staff to adjust at halftime or to go

1012
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: into the game with the best way to attack. No,

1013
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: they gave up twenty seven first down to the Bengals.

1014
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: They were outgained by a hundred and twenty yards. Mayfield

1015
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: through two interceptions. One of them I just say one

1016
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: of them was like David the Joku catching the ball

1017
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: and falling on his back and everyone thought it was

1018
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a a catch, then be in a joke

1019
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: of fumble, and then it was ruled the Baker Mayfield interceptions.

1020
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: So but but still right, just just that it was

1021
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: a day where their red zone defense ultimately saved them.

1022
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals were one for five in the

1023
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: red zone, and that the field, the fact that Baker

1024
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: Mayfield's going under fifty percent completion, I know he had

1025
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: some big plays against the Bengals, and then the fact

1026
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: that after the game, the conversation is about Odell Beckham,

1027
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: where j. Glazer before the game, says this Odell Beckham

1028
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: talk how he's not committing to Cleveland long term, which

1029
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: kind of came from a press conference, uh, you know

1030
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: last last last week pops up and then after the

1031
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: game Baker Mayfield's kind of throwing his training staff under

1032
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: the bus. We have that sound, let's listen to. I'd

1033
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: say that, you know what, it wouldn't handled right. Um,

1034
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: He's not able to run as well as he should

1035
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: be able to as well as he knows, and that's

1036
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: frustrating for him. Uh it's you can since that's some

1037
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: of his frustration where that comes from. So uh, I

1038
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't handle the right way in our training room. So

1039
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: uh well, you know it is what it is, and

1040
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: so his not is still good enough for us. I

1041
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: feel like Browns fans have experienced every kind of frustration

1042
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: to the sun, and this year has brought a new one.

1043
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: That every time you win a game, you're not talking

1044
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: about the football, you're talking about some other controversy after

1045
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: the fact, that you never get a chance to unwind

1046
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: and enjoy a win. He's a smart guy, right, What

1047
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: does Mayfield things gonna happen when you make that comment?

1048
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: Stand up he's trying to make because that becomes the

1049
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: story that he's throwing his team under the bus in

1050
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: a way. And even if his intentions are noble, which

1051
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: is to say, I'm on O b J side, all

1052
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 1: you guys getting on him, that he's having a down here,

1053
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: but this is one thing you don't do. And like

1054
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: West of saying, it's just should be about the Browns

1055
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 1: saying alive, and it said, it's gonna be about Baker

1056
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: mouthing off about his team. He did come out and

1057
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: apologize strongly on Twitter for not wanting to make it

1058
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: seem like he's throwing no I get it, but he

1059
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: just did. But part of it is you haven't heard

1060
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: much from Odell Beckham at all, and I think that

1061
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: he is speaking for someone who typically is the person

1062
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 1: drawing all this media fire. I hear you, though. I

1063
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: mean it's like, I'm not just gonna stick up for

1064
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield because I'm a Brown. It just makes the

1065
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: organization look bad. It first of all that Odell Beckham

1066
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: wants out, and then second that the quarter quarterback is

1067
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: sort of blaming the organization. So you've got to think,

1068
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: as the leader, like you want to make your organization

1069
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: look good. Baker is going to be there long term,

1070
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: whether oh b J is you know or not? And

1071
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: I get that he's trying to stick up for him,

1072
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: and it helps explain maybe you know, Beckham's poor year,

1073
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: But does it also explain why Beckham made that comment

1074
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: in the first place, that he's maybe upset behind the

1075
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: scenes at how the Browns and I think that, but

1076
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: I think when you see splits, and we've seen it

1077
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: this year with with in Washington too, when there are

1078
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,439
Speaker 1: issues between player and medical staff that can lead there's

1079
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: still so much upside though with Baker and that offense

1080
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: and Odell, I think it would be a huge mistake

1081
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: of Beckham forced him forced his way out of town.

1082
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: There's no sense digging on that because we don't there's

1083
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: so much to be told in that story. But they

1084
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: need an off season around. I cannot think of a

1085
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: team that needs to just flush this experience one today though,

1086
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Mark you want, but he's right though every win feels

1087
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: tinged with something darker that you can't really painted. Just

1088
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: you can't enjoy it. Shout out before we go to

1089
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, the Bengals coach, for having Randy Bullock lineup

1090
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: for a forty six yard field goal with twelve seconds Ramaker,

1091
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to log version. What is this? I'm

1092
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: going to brought the rain? I want to hear this.

1093
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: Turn it up here, come never again clean? Greg. What

1094
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: concerns me is be voice the lead singer of a

1095
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: of a band at some point? Yeah, why are you

1096
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: so ashamed of the voice that sold four copies of

1097
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: an album? How do you want to cut? At least

1098
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: what a great title? Wait? Do you think he sold

1099
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: forty seven copies? That means there's at least forty seven

1100
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: copies out there? Is that? How you sang in that

1101
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: for that band? I just want to know what that

1102
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: was like. You're more like, No, it wasn't trying to

1103
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: hit those tough notes. Who was We just did the

1104
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: throwback podcast talking arcade fire, Greg? Who would? Because every singer,

1105
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: whether he admits to or not, is influenced by someone

1106
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: out there that he listened to or looked up to.

1107
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: Who would be? Who would be the voice that you

1108
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: may be modeled yourself after during your days fronting Delaware,

1109
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: the emo goth band in Western not an emo van,

1110
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: not a goth. I would say the dead milkman. Whoever

1111
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: that the dead milkman. Not a lot of people would

1112
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: answer the dead milkman for that question. All right, um,

1113
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: let us move on, uh to the NFC. Back to

1114
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: the NFC. So it's first and Gold Vikings in a

1115
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: scoreless game from the Lions nine. Alexander Madison the jailback

1116
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: play action Kirk straight drop to the end zone, touchdown

1117
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: hold off. BC Johnson has caught two touchdowns in his

1118
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: many games against the Detroit Blons, and the Vikings have

1119
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: taken a six year old lead. Oh, Paul Allen's one

1120
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: of the zero truthers. I've had some words with Matt

1121
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: money Smith about this because Money is also a zero truther.

1122
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: There's no six nothing when he's calling the game. It's

1123
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: six zero. That doesn't sit well. I could couldn't. I

1124
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: agree with you. Hunter technically correct, and that's why a

1125
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: real broadcaster like a Money or a Paul Allen does

1126
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: do it. But I don't love it. I'd like you

1127
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: don't like Moneys take on it. I don't. He's a

1128
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: six zero guy. He's a zero truther and Money, but

1129
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I shouldn't he be allowed to make his own call game?

1130
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: So what's the problem. I'm just saying, he you're I'm

1131
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: a twenty nothing guy. I understand what money nothing means.

1132
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be twenties zero. I'm a traditionalist.

1133
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm a nothing guy. Killing would it killing? The throwing

1134
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: a little bucks? Now? They don't do that. They what

1135
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: is the exact definition for the zero numerica zero? I mean,

1136
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: there are reasons that Matt money Smith has been hired

1137
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: to call games and some of us have not. He's

1138
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: a pros pro b C Johnson had a touchdown catch

1139
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: and Daniel hunt Dirt had three sacks five for the

1140
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: Minnesota Uh. Their defense needed a big game. They got it,

1141
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: took care of business against the Lions twenty to seven. Uh.

1142
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Six straight losses for the Lions in Minnesota. UH the

1143
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: win as they continue to charge towards the playoff spot. Now,

1144
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: let us welcome in Nick Shook. Oh my god, who's

1145
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: straight out of the gym. He's lending us a hand

1146
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: on a full Sunday slate. Shook, How are you, buddy?

1147
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm great. I'm still captivated by that audio clip of

1148
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: of of here comes the Rain. Thank you, Nick, Here

1149
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: comes the rain. And by the way, are you are

1150
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: you a zero truth or also no, I'm cool you

1151
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: can use nothing. I didn't even think about that until

1152
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: you brought that up. I mean, technically it's correct, and

1153
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: if you want to be a stickler for it, then yeah,

1154
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: but now you can use nothing nothing to find That's

1155
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: why I love him anyway, Shook. So yeah, we needed

1156
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: we needed a hand and those big masculine meat pause

1157
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: of yours are gonna help us out here. Um, talking Detroit, Minnesota,

1158
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: we know where the Lions are at this juncture, which

1159
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: is a very bad place. But what were your what

1160
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 1: was your big takeaway from the Vikings in this game? Uh,

1161
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: you know they did enough. I think you know, their

1162
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: defense was the story of the day, you know, the

1163
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: five facts that you mentioned really shutting down anything that

1164
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: Detroit could do. It was more of a game where statistically,

1165
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: if you look at you know, the the Lion Kirk

1166
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: Cousins had, it's it's really good. But oftentimes they couldn't

1167
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: really take advantage of just didn't take advantage of the

1168
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: opportunities that they had. But they took advantage of enough

1169
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: opportunities to win the game. It's not like the task

1170
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: was that great, you know, concerning the Lions team that

1171
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: they were playing, and they got a really big boost

1172
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the half. There was like a

1173
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: minute a half left and the Lions, you know, we're

1174
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: tried to settle for a field goal, missed that field goal,

1175
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: and then the Vikings had a big play to Stefon

1176
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: Diggs ended up capping it with a Dalvin Cook touchdown

1177
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: run and it pretty much felt over from there, and

1178
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: it ultimately was I think that was pretty much the

1179
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: turning point. It's one of those games where you have

1180
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: a team that's clearly superior, uh and just needs to

1181
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: do just enough to win and get to the next week.

1182
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: And that's what we had here. Dalvin Cook, like look

1183
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: like a guy playing through an injury or did he

1184
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: look like an m VP candidate? Uh? Handoffs wise, you know,

1185
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: carries wise, he looked like somebody was playing through an injury.

1186
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: But I didn't notice that much of an issue with

1187
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: him running the football. He still looked explosive, he still

1188
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: looked strong through the hole. You know, I was watching

1189
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: the Browns game in this game at the same time,

1190
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: and I was getting, you know, framed by frame comparisons

1191
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: of him and Nick Chubb, and I was thinking to myself,

1192
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: if I had to take a running back to start with,

1193
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: I would pick Dalvin Cook over Nick Chubb. He's just

1194
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: more explosive, uh from the backfield to the line of

1195
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: scrimmers than a guy like Nick Chubb. Not that you know,

1196
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,959
Speaker 1: knock anything and yet him, but uh so he looked fine.

1197
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: I just think you know, he'll It was a game

1198
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: where he could have sat out and I wouldn't have

1199
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: had an issue with it. I mean, now he's inter

1200
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: Madison still had four teen carries or forty six yards,

1201
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: and he would have done a good enough job. But again,

1202
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: you're kind offending off the rams who are coming up

1203
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: on their tails, and you're also trying to still win

1204
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: your division. So I understand why he played. I don't

1205
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: think it's a huge, huge issue going forward for those

1206
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: of us that started a fan club based on the

1207
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: exploits of David blow Should the Blowhards be concerned about

1208
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: the overall arc of where we're at with this quarterback? Right?

1209
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: Hard Nation wants to know, Well, you know, every time

1210
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: Bloud takes the field, there's a certain term for that

1211
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: span of time. It's called blower hour. And yeah, blower

1212
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: hour wasn't so great this week through a couple of interceptions.

1213
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: One of them was really bad and kind of killed

1214
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: their only strong drive at the second second half. But again,

1215
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's hand the ball off the bow Scarborough

1216
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: and you know he connected with Kenny Golladay and a

1217
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: garbage time touchdown. That's pretty much the majority of what happened.

1218
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: You know what they're dealing with here. They're just not

1219
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: a full strength team, and especially not with a full

1220
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: strength quarterback. So everybody loves David Blow and having spent

1221
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: training camp covering him to enjoy David Blow and his

1222
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: his magic tricks. You know he's good with the cards

1223
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: and everything. But were you just dismissive of all of

1224
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: us bohemians out there because we like it? Won the

1225
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: Rookie Show in Barria, I'll tell you that, But I

1226
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: don't know how far it's gonna take him. The NFL

1227
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 1: Wow shout out to Daniel Hunter, the youngest player in

1228
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: NFL history to at the fifty sacks. I feel like

1229
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: he gets slept on as one of the great pass

1230
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: rushers this year. He's second in sacks, fifth and hits first,

1231
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: and Hurry's seventy nine pressures here by the neo hunter.

1232
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: He just doesn't week after week, and it feels like

1233
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: an even better in that dome, in their home stadium

1234
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: where they have an advantage against, you know, with the

1235
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: crowd noise. He just plays so well in that dome,

1236
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: shook you believe in the Vikings before we say goodbye.

1237
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at their their nine and four right now,

1238
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: they're the They're the Where are they they are? This

1239
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: projected sixth seed they got at Chargers home, Packers home, bears.

1240
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: Tell us where the Vikings end up New Year's Day

1241
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: right now? Let us know, well, they could win, they

1242
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: could go win their division. I mean I think that

1243
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: the Packers in Week sixteen, I believe that they'll beat

1244
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: the Packers. I don't fully believe in the Packers. Every

1245
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: time they've come against the team that they faced strong

1246
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: test against, they've fallen short. And I think that they

1247
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: might fall short against this team as long as Kirk

1248
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 1: Cousins can play statistically and on tape, because sometimes there's

1249
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: a difference and and he's only done that really in

1250
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: the big moment once in his career, so he needs

1251
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: to do that. But I think they're equipped enough. You know,

1252
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: Greg mentioned Daniel Hunter and everything that he's done. This

1253
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: is really two strong seasons for him in a row.

1254
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: That he's a premier pass rusher, and I think they

1255
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: can ride that defense as long as their offense does enough.

1256
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: But as Kirk Cousins was better than just a sterling

1257
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: stat line, they could beat the Packers, they could win

1258
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: the division, and they could make a serious run. So

1259
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: I think they'll beat the Niners or another team like

1260
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: that the playoffs. I don't think so, but I think

1261
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: they're good enough to compete all right. And I'm just

1262
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: curious before we say goodbye. Now that you're back in

1263
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: the NFL dot com family, which are so excited about.

1264
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: These Sundays are long Sundays. You're covering a lot of

1265
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: the NFL um watching TV all that. Do you get

1266
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: a chance to get a pump on a Sunday? Uh?

1267
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: Actually no, Usually, I mean if I get up early enough.

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Speaker 1: But the last has not. It's been it's been a

1269
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: designated off day. It's all football, that's uh. That's what's

1270
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: feeling me on are you Are you as committed to

1271
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: your physique as you were when we knew you here?

1272
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: That's the question that had to be asked you bar Oh, yes,

1273
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: of course, absolutely all right. That's got a really weigh

1274
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: on your mind while you're sleeping on Sunday nights that

1275
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: you didn't get a pump in. You know, it does

1276
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: not at all the past day failures at all. Moved forward, Schuck,

1277
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: We're probably gonna need your help again in the coming weeks,

1278
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: so we'd love if you could uh rejoin us down

1279
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: the line. Does that work for you? Yeah, Lions every

1280
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: week for you. By the way, we'll hook up with

1281
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: a better game before that before we uh say goodbye

1282
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: to the twenty nineteen regular season, Nick Chuck, Thanks buddy,

1283
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: thank you. Speaking of those Packers and the snap, But

1284
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: kid Jones up a middle cuts it back story to

1285
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: head did the end zone he died in for a touchdown?

1286
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 1: Can the Packers take us six? Nothing lead? Four yard

1287
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: touchdown run by Aaron Jones to the lambo lead to

1288
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: the south end zone? Stand Aaron Jones. He's been gone

1289
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: for a while, but he's back. A hundred and thirty

1290
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 1: four yards season high total, not only sixteen carries Aaron Rodgers,

1291
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: he threw it for a buck and a touch Packers

1292
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: win over the red Skins at lambeau Field West. I

1293
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: didn't see a second of this one. Tell us about it,

1294
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: but I am so tired of hearing every week how

1295
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: many passes Aaron Rodgers has gone without an interception. If

1296
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 1: you hold the ball instead of throwing it, there's no

1297
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: chance of getting it. Oh no, you know what he's saying, luging.

1298
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Everybody can read between the lines. I love Aaron Rodgers,

1299
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: but this has been a story, whether it's Mike McCarthy

1300
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: or Matt Lafleur, for it seems like three or four

1301
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: years now. Why is Aaron Rodgers holding the ball because

1302
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: his receivers aren't getting open? Or is it because the

1303
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: quarterback needs for the perfect play to be there in

1304
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 1: order to release the ball. Probably a little bit of

1305
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 1: column A little bit of column B. This was a

1306
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 1: big part of this game, and maybe we're not talking

1307
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: about it. If uh Rodgers doesn't throw slightly behind Jay

1308
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: Sternberger on a potential touchdown, If Jimmy Graham was the

1309
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: Saints version of Jimmy Graham and leap up for a

1310
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: catch in the red zone on a pretty decent Aaron

1311
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers throw, if is long gone, it's long gone, And

1312
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: I thought Graham should have made the catch, But you

1313
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: know that's the ghost of Jimmy Graham. Aaron Jones on

1314
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: a third down, Rogers just barely missed him on a

1315
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: on a play that would have gone for a lot

1316
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: of yards. So this is what we talked about with

1317
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers almost after every game. They just missed on

1318
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: a series of plays where the throws were pretty good.

1319
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: But when you hold the ball for so long and

1320
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: you can't convert third downs, you tend to talk about

1321
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: the players you just missed because you're not talking about

1322
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: the players you made. How about haskins little progress report? Uh,

1323
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,959
Speaker 1: he has a major sack issue, like to the point

1324
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: where it's a Jamis Winston interception issue here, like go

1325
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: to the doctor. Let's put this in perspective. Deshaun Watson's

1326
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: sack rate last year was ten point nine percent when

1327
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: he got sacked the fifth most times by a quarterback

1328
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Haskins is at fourteen percent. Case in

1329
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: him was a six percent behind the same offensive line.

1330
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: This is a Haskins issue and whoever coaches them next year,

1331
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: who have to spend the offseason working pretty common one

1332
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: for rookie quarterbacks, certainly probably the most common one. Just

1333
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: holding the ball too long. He played through an injury today,

1334
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: six point three yards for TI. The result doesn't surprise me.

1335
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: The fighting Callahan stay in. This was more about the

1336
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: Packers than the rest. Okay, but it doesn't surprise me

1337
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: on the Packer side either, because I'm with Nick that

1338
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what you have right now with this

1339
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: Packers team, great record. This is the ninth time this

1340
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: year Aaron Rodgers has had a passer rating under one

1341
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: in a game that should not be happening. It just

1342
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: feels like a clear middle tier to a collection of

1343
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: like the Vikings and the Packers. I you know, you

1344
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: asked Nick, if you see them making a run, I

1345
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: can see them winning a playoff game. I simply don't

1346
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: buy that with the Vikings, and I don't see that

1347
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 1: with Green Bay at all. I'm with you, and yet

1348
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: they're intriguing, just like because some years that's the best

1349
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: you got. Like some years the teams like this are

1350
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: a one or a two or a two seed, and

1351
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: it it's kind of fun if they If these guys

1352
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: are the end of the NFC playoffs, like that is

1353
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: a fun little turney. All right, Let's rip through three

1354
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: games that have. I was gonna say zero implications, but

1355
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. Let's say no implications. Nailed it.

1356
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: They gotta be alert for pressure. Here they come up

1357
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: line from the pocket're gonna take the shot. Zakius is

1358
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: out there, a Lambaday's first professional tach. He breaks away

1359
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: and a Labada is a Kias. It's gonna go to

1360
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: the house. Ninety three yards. Ununbelievable. Dante Jackson got caught

1361
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: in the dust. They came able to sell out Blitz

1362
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: zero coverage and a Labadi Zequius receiver in Virtinia history

1363
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: finally gets clean and finally gets an opportunity to be

1364
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 1: put up the bat and the rookie delivers big time.

1365
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: It's almost like Western and David Archer, the Falcon's radio

1366
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: network had a little inside joke side bed who could

1367
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,759
Speaker 1: say his name the most on that call on Roddy

1368
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: White Day in Atlanta, A Lama days as called in

1369
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: Yes a touchdown passer Matt Ryan that was the longest

1370
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: in the Great Quarterbacks career, ninety three yards. The Falcons

1371
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 1: double up the Panthers forty greg. I feel like this

1372
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: is a meaningless NFC South tilt. You'd be weirdly excited

1373
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: about No, not too excited. I mean it was a

1374
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: lot of points. It could have been the bloom is

1375
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 1: off the Falcons roast. Yeah, I guess it can go

1376
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 1: two ways when you're an interim head coach. You can

1377
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: either kind of have a couple of fun wins and

1378
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: become a new personality big arms from Dan Campbell or

1379
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: Jovits press conference. Or you can be Perry Fuel who

1380
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: gives up forty points or his defense gives up forty

1381
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: points and then his cornerback Dante Jackson after the game

1382
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: blames that play and a couple others on his awful,

1383
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: horrible calls for not practicing these situations uh throughout the

1384
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: week and that they didn't make any sense. This was

1385
01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: a season he gave up that place. He's gonna be

1386
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: running laps this week. Remember when we were in London,

1387
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: we watched the Panthers and that one and they beat

1388
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: the Falcons and they were riding high. These seasons can

1389
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: turn quickly in our league. Kyle Allen uh pretty Graham

1390
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: that the Falcons have intercepted Kyle Allen more than the

1391
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: rest of all their games combined. So they love they

1392
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: love facing Kyle Allen. They own Kyle Allen. The four

1393
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: and nine Falcons will not never lose to Kyle Allen.

1394
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: Let's move up alright then now in for Gordon not

1395
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Why the numbers right and the slot as Henry left.

1396
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: You got a linebacker on and here comes the quick blitz.

1397
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: There's Heckler gets a block. It's a foot race forty

1398
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: fifty into Jack's territory. Thirty twenty Austin Eckler to the end,

1399
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: touched up Chargers, Boston. Eckler is having himself a day

1400
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:05,280
Speaker 1: jet and Allen cannot stop dancing. Eighty four yards. There's

1401
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: nobody there. I mean, you had blockers and two defenders

1402
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: and once he got by that from the superfluous is

1403
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 1: what it is. Matt money Smith there he is, and

1404
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah with the call KP, I am Phil Rivers.

1405
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: There into fourteen yards, three touchdowns, including in eighty four

1406
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 1: yard or to Austin Ekeler, the longest completion and the

1407
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: history of Philip Rivers football in The Chargers are the

1408
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: latest team to humiliate the Jaguars mark in a tough year.

1409
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: It was a happy birthday to your boy, Billy Rivers.

1410
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 1: It was a celebration, did Sky Sports that Mark was

1411
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: very excited about phil Rivers him up. I have thought

1412
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: that one of the more depressing visual sites has been

1413
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,080
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers over the past couple of weeks. And it

1414
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: was a week ago that you know, whispers are bubbling

1415
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: up that he's gonna be benched. We have Tyrod Taylor

1416
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 1: warming up on the sideline. But you know what fixes

1417
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: these kinds of problems the defense of the Jaguars, which

1418
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: at this point is beyond a ghost. I don't know

1419
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: what you want to talk about, not coaching well on

1420
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: defense and not figuring out how to handle these assignments.

1421
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: This was a game where the Chargers basically looked at

1422
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 1: what's happened to Jacksonville over the past three or four

1423
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: weeks and said, all we need to do is take

1424
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: deep shots down the field over and over. We will

1425
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: unleash Austin Ekeler for two hundred plus yards off of

1426
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 1: nine touches. I mean, wouldn't you rather have him than Leonard?

1427
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: For I don't even think it's a question, is no doubt.

1428
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think he had these insane runs of

1429
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 1: thirty five yards, twenty seven yards, twenty three yards this

1430
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: was a game that I had to write up for

1431
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: the site, and it played about as beautifully as one

1432
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: could ever hope for a project like that. Because the

1433
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: game was over in like twelve minutes you knew was over,

1434
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: and they never let up. Philip Rivers instead of having

1435
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: to watch Tyrod Taylor warm up and take his job,

1436
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: was sitting by the beginning of the fourth quarter because

1437
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: it was like, this game is absolute curtains and it's over,

1438
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are as disorganized as they come right now.

1439
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: And you know what, Gardner Minshew did not play well.

1440
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: He also simply has nothing, no chance to and neither

1441
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: did Nick Foles. And I can't help but wonder if

1442
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: you're the Jaguars, and who knows who's gonna be around

1443
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: a month from now, or who's even to care about

1444
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: what's happening next season, I might get another look at

1445
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: Nick Foles for a couple of games, because no, I'll

1446
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 1: tell you why, because at this point you're you're putting

1447
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew in a bad situation. But this year, this year,

1448
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying I have no problem with doing that because

1449
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: it's like you have to figure out what whoever they

1450
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: play is going to get hurt or ruined. I just

1451
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: I don't like any quarterbacks million dollar contract. If it's

1452
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: about like saving a guy from injury. Well, I don't know, man,

1453
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm not employed by an NFL that this never as

1454
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: bad as fall as was last week. It has nothing

1455
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: to do with the quarterback. This is this team is

1456
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: just completely packed it up. I mean, they're the worst

1457
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. They have not been. It is

1458
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: hard in the NFL to lose by three scores or

1459
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: more five straight weeks. And some of these games are

1460
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: like five scores. That's how much they're losing. They have.

1461
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: They have lost five straight, all by seventeen point at

1462
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: least seventeen points. The nineteen eighties six Buccaneers the last

1463
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: team to drop five straight by at least that's what

1464
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 1: did that? Greg? You? You put it on my radar

1465
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: last week that this is gonna be a epic free

1466
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: fall down the old power. I hate to see it

1467
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: for the jagu Rs and how much farther can they

1468
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: fall from where they were last? But they're going, I

1469
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 1: mean they're going to the thirty two. I think I

1470
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: think you gotta put them down there. Um, And you

1471
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: know what, This is what it looks like when when

1472
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: a team quits on its coach and it's not pretty us. Well,

1473
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 1: I think they're gone. I think Greg talked about this

1474
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Everybody's gone there. Uh, finally,

1475
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: let's head to the swamps of Jersey. Brian Flores' is

1476
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: not near the officials, I don't think so. I think

1477
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna let him tick it forty four yards away

1478
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: for ficking to try and win it. How to the

1479
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,480
Speaker 1: whole of the fens, please spot kick on the way

1480
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: it is. God then sap the right up right for

1481
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: Sam stick it. Then on the last play of the

1482
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 1: games the Jets pull it out. They've winning over Miami two.

1483
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: One nice call Bob was shoes in. He ain't playing

1484
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 1: out the string, Sam facing kick that forty four yard

1485
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: as time expired, given the Jets one comeback win over

1486
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The game that and if you're watching it

1487
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 1: on YouTube, or you watch this game, you're watching us

1488
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 1: on YouTube, I should say you see Brian Flores running

1489
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: sprinting toward midfield as the Jets celebrated. Because this game,

1490
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: for me, will be in a game between two two

1491
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 1: teams are at of contention. Another example of the past

1492
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: interference rule, which was they changed this rule in the

1493
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: middle of the season, which is not the only one.

1494
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: I mean, they say they didn't. They say they didn't.

1495
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: But for the past three weeks something has changed. Uh.

1496
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: And what it is is they're now calling it closer

1497
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: to the letter of the law rather than it being

1498
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: have to be something absolutely egregious for to change. And

1499
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 1: of course coaches are mad, not that they're now getting

1500
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: the calls, they're actually changing the calls where a guy

1501
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: actually has interfered with it's that that they don't know

1502
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: what to expect anymore. And that's why Flores is so mad.

1503
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 1: And let me just give you a little context of

1504
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: how big the call was. The Jets were facing a

1505
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: third and eighteen from about their forty yard line with

1506
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 1: less than a minute ago, no time outs, and Sam

1507
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: Donald incomplete. Uh so they're set up now they're near midfield.

1508
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: Actually they're set up fourth and eighteen near midfield, no

1509
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,800
Speaker 1: time outs, uh, eating a field goal to win. In

1510
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: other words, the Dolphins were set up for the win,

1511
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: and they buzz down and call past interference. Um on

1512
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: Nick need Hum and the Jets, to their credit move

1513
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: another fifteen or so yards down the field and then

1514
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. So the Dolphins have every right

1515
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: to be angry. Uh, it was the right call, I

1516
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: should say it was. He was interfered with. But it's

1517
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: just the fact that they've been inconsistent with it. And

1518
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that they've kind of not gotten right

1519
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: here is I think it's clear. It's like you couldn't

1520
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: you couldn't have corrective steering in the middle of the season.

1521
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: You kind of had to pick a way to handle

1522
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: this and stick with it. If you change mid season

1523
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 1: without making any type of announcement, which of course you

1524
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: would never do, it's just gonna lead to confusion and frustration.

1525
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: And that's what we saw. And met Life Stadium shout

1526
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: out to Jason Sanders who went seven for eight and

1527
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 1: field goals, well, this game had the most field goals.

1528
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: Let This game had the most field goals by two

1529
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: teams in NFL history. It was like a John Fox

1530
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher fever dream. Did the box fild these teams

1531
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: are as even in the box scores any game lall season.

1532
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. If it says anything.

1533
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,839
Speaker 1: Two first downs one each one team's four for thirteen

1534
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,839
Speaker 1: on third down, the others five for thirteen, eight seconds apart.

1535
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: Uh in time of possession, I mean Dolphins Jets. They

1536
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 1: will not be in last place. The Jets. They will

1537
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: get that third place schedule now because they won this game.

1538
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: And I just want my last note. And I even

1539
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: checked in with NFL media research because I was like,

1540
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 1: because the Jets defense wasn't great. Uh, they gave up

1541
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: seven scoring drives, but they're all field goals. Has there

1542
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: ever been a case where a team punted just once,

1543
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 1: which the Dolphins did without scoring a touchdown? And it

1544
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: turns out that it happened once last season, but just

1545
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: six times since two thousand, So it's rare but not

1546
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: hardly unprecedented. Bell Sam Donald played a fairly poor game.

1547
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: Uh here, So the Jets are lucky to get to win,

1548
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: and you never, even in the last season. Don't want

1549
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,240
Speaker 1: to get swept by the Dolphins. As bad as this

1550
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: rivalry is right now, it's fallen on hard times. I

1551
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: don't want to ever get swept and handcusted eat that

1552
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 1: handsome heck? Uh? Which takes us to Sunday Night football.

1553
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Goff under centers looking to build on a twenty

1554
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: one to nine lead. He gives a Gurley. He tries

1555
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 1: a loft side to the perimeter, up dishes stiff arm,

1556
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: and he goes in on his feet. Touchdown. Todd Gurley

1557
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: touchdown away with eleven. It was seven ago in regulation.

1558
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: It's top seven nine and pour Gurley. It's his twelve

1559
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: touchdown in nine games against the Seahawks. Chris Wesseling neighbor

1560
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,719
Speaker 1: J B. Long with the call. Todd Gurley goes over

1561
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: a hundred yards from scrimmage in a twenty eight to

1562
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: twelve Rams victory. I'm Greg you know, you know, I mean,

1563
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 1: I've been on the show this whole time. But Dan

1564
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: at the step away take care of some family matters.

1565
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: So we are wrapping up Sunday Night football in style,

1566
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: and the Rams Chris Wesselyn are making a playoff. Pushed

1567
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: and think they had it in him. They were the

1568
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 1: team last week that most convinced me. They were just

1569
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 1: different than when we saw earlier in the season. They

1570
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: are a different team now. It starts with Todd Gurley

1571
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 1: being back, and we saw it tonight, Mark several times

1572
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 1: throughout the game. It seemed like in the second and

1573
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: third quarter you said, Gurly is running really tough tonight

1574
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: And Tyler Higbee, who before last week had played sixty

1575
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: two games and it only top fifty yards twice in

1576
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: those sixty two games, back to back one D performances.

1577
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 1: It looks like Todd heaping his prime out there. He's

1578
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: been wasting away as a blocker. They need that and

1579
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 1: that's a big added element to their offense. They were

1580
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: doing a lot of Jets sweeps tonight with Josh Reynolds

1581
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 1: and Robert Woods and friends, and you know, just getting

1582
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: finding creative ways to attack Seattle. I thought that when

1583
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: the Rams won me over in this game, was you

1584
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: had the golf pick six next possession, the Rams come

1585
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 1: back and throw another interception, and you can feel the

1586
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: potential meltdown beginning to happen in Seattle beginning to do

1587
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: what they do. Whatever the deficit is, they're gonna find

1588
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 1: their way back in. But the Rams defense has been

1589
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: lights out the past couple of weeks, and they put

1590
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: the clamps on Russell Wilson tonight. I came into this

1591
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: game saying, all right, Aaron Donald, this defensive player of

1592
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 1: the years kind of up in the up in the

1593
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: air right now, go make a statement, and and he did.

1594
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: I think you saw the four quarterback hits. He saw

1595
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 1: tackle for loss, he saw a sack and a half,

1596
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 1: and you saw what he does. Kind of like Lamar

1597
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: Jackson opens up uh plays for his teammates, Aaron Donald

1598
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: opens up plays for Dante Fowler and Samson Ebcon who

1599
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: both had you know, single blocking opportunities all night. And

1600
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 1: even on plays where Donald is kind of darting inside.

1601
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,440
Speaker 1: There was one where he had three or four blockers

1602
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: on him and then Fowler gets around the edge. Clay

1603
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: Matthews had a big hit on Russell Wilson on a

1604
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: key spot. And the Seahawks who scored six points on

1605
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 1: offense because they got that pick six basically Collinsworth set it.

1606
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: But I agree, like when they just have to pass protect,

1607
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: they're they're a bad pass protecting team. And I know

1608
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: we're we're picking on the Seahawks. They're they're due to

1609
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 1: have one bad game team, but ten and three, I

1610
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: would be a little concerned by this result that they're

1611
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 1: not that they weren't competitive in this spot, concerned enough

1612
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: about a playoff spot, or just concerned that they won't

1613
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: be riding momentum when they go into that, I guess

1614
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 1: I I've been concerned all year that the offense works

1615
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: on a lot of low percentage plays and Russell had

1616
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: his chance for him tonight where a couple of deep

1617
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: plays to Lockett that they just didn't hit. But your

1618
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: county on Russell Wilson to make magic. The running game

1619
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: is a little up and down the defense, at least

1620
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: tonight they're big players. Clowney and Bobby Wagner didn't step up.

1621
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 1: That won't be the case every week, but it's just

1622
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: been a very slim margin for Air. I mean, they

1623
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: have about as many two score wins I think as

1624
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins do this year. Every game is down

1625
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: to the wire, and that would worry me a little bit.

1626
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: It's a little slimmer margin too because Rachad Penny, who

1627
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: we had seen emerging as that sort of robin to

1628
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: Chris Carson's batman, it just goes down with a bad

1629
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: knee injury and he was on crutches with a large

1630
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: knee brace after the game. That looked like it might

1631
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: be a season end ruled out really quickly, and that's

1632
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: been a one to punch for them. I thought, if

1633
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: you're a RAMS fan. The reason that there's hope is

1634
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 1: that outside of the interceptions for Golf, when they're using

1635
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: him outside of the pocket, he looked really good tonight.

1636
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: He made some big plays and they're just their offensive

1637
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: starting to show working concert a little bit. And my

1638
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: biggest issue with them was that they were not only

1639
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 1: not running well, they were boring to watch. This Rams

1640
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: team tonight had some juice, a completely different situation rhythm there.

1641
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: Higgbie was killing the linebackers, Golf was hitting throws in rhythm.

1642
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: The first third and four of the game, he hits

1643
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: Robert Woods on a crosser, and it was those plays

1644
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: that you saw all the time a year ago. But

1645
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: then you're also seeing some new elements of the offseat

1646
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 1: the offense with Higbie following Everett up Gerald. Everett was

1647
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: playing really well before he got hurt, and then Golf

1648
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: being on the move, and then Todd Gurley running with

1649
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: some heat. I know it didn't he didn't have a

1650
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: monster game, uh stats wise, but you can just tell

1651
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: the juice is back, and the whole narrative it's like, well,

1652
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:01,799
Speaker 1: Sean mcve you know, he said he was an idiot

1653
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: for not giving him the ball, early Sean mcveigh's is

1654
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 1: putting that on him because he's a good coach. Anyone

1655
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: that thinks that they made a mistake because of Todd

1656
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: Gurley's usage in the first half of the season, we're

1657
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: watching the game. He's just playing better. Now. He's a

1658
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: different player. Right now. He wasn't making anyone missed then

1659
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: he was. He was trying to run them over because

1660
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: he couldn't go around them. And at mid season you

1661
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Gerald Everett. It looked like Cooper Cup and Gerald

1662
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: Everett might be the two players who raised the level

1663
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: of this offense. Instead it's been Girly Higbee and Woods.

1664
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: They showed that that graphic on on Sunday Night Football,

1665
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: the first trio with back to back one yard games

1666
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 1: each since the two thousand vikings. Think about that. What

1667
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of a day it has been for forty Niners fans.

1668
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: You win one of the most electrifying, franchise altering wins

1669
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: of late early on against the Saints, and now this

1670
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: happens tonight, And because Seattle was sitting in the driver's

1671
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: seat with that Week seventeen showdown coming, had they won

1672
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: this thing, and now that game which probably should be

1673
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: flexed into that. I think it's happening. Seattle's got two

1674
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: winnable games coming up here, and before they play the

1675
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: forty Niners in week seventeen, they're almost guaranteed to be

1676
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 1: playing for home field advantage. The only way that they

1677
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be as if if the forty Niners blow out

1678
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. I don't think that's gonna happen.

1679
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 1: It was kind of a perfect night. I mean, the

1680
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offense got bogged down on a couple of drops,

1681
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: some things that that were preventable. But the Rams have

1682
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 1: played there their two best games of the year in

1683
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,160
Speaker 1: a row, much like the Falcons two years ago, much

1684
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,479
Speaker 1: like the Eagles a year ago. The NFC champs like

1685
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,919
Speaker 1: shaking off the hangover. You know, hangover last until late November,

1686
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,040
Speaker 1: and the fact that they got a win tonight means

1687
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: they could enjoy what was ultimately um kind of a

1688
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 1: silly moment. Some might say it's embarrassing. I would say

1689
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,640
Speaker 1: it was delightful. It involved the Rams cheerleaders. Let's take

1690
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: a listen, all right. That was prefaced by Jared Goff

1691
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: stepping up the line of scrimmage about to snap it

1692
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: and they had to stop playing that and then there

1693
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: was about a ten second delay, and you could not

1694
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 1: have been more delighted. I love things like this, you know,

1695
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: the Bags almost getting lost for the Chiefs and then

1696
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: having to maybe forfeit of game was one of my

1697
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: favorite narratives in a weird football season. This was right

1698
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: up there. And I think if you go watch that

1699
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 1: clip again, if you find it on game Pass, it's

1700
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the presence of this gigantic absurd Ram's mascot right sandwiched

1701
01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: in between all these cheerleaders trying to get you know,

1702
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: just controlled chaos. Like you could watch games for another

1703
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 1: hundred years and you may never hear this again. The

1704
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: first perfect Alan Chris taking us home in style. Uh,

1705
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 1: that's it for the show. You know, we we missed

1706
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 1: stand here at the end, but he will be back

1707
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. We'll be back on Thursday to preview all

1708
01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: the week fifteen games, and uh, it keeps rolling on

1709
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,719
Speaker 1: and on. It's the home stretch. We're here, We're happy

1710
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,040
Speaker 1: over Tuesday show is gonna have a thirty five minute

1711
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: recap of Giants Eagles. Yeah, right, let's let's go home

1712
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: for Dan hands. Our host Eric at tam Pose, Ryan Bartlett,

1713
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,839
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris West, Lene and needed the old boss.

1714
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Speaker 1: See you Tuesday,