WEBVTT - The Booker T. Episode 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:04.720 Get get no boys, it's back and rehoaded all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:07.440 your mind. Yeah and now deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.400 the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.440 the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:16.960 so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.880 South East Coat g b B were keeping your head bobbing. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.640 It ain't no stopping. It wants to be trips by 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:27.000 and then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.320 rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.560 Don't get it twisted on code and me and dancing 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:39.879 for no buttament biscuits. It's really d y'all scar facing 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.720 the building. Collectively we are the ghetto boys. Reloaded, reloaded 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.120 with another episode of information and instructions to help you 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:51.880 navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. I guess today 0:00:52.120 --> 0:01:02.120 then Conquerable Black Snow, Cold Kid, book up, Book of 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.240 Tears in the building. Y'all. Oh man, it was good, 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.360 but before you get started to be good, the real 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:10.880 Black Snows pros Black Snow is actually a real poet 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.080 um here in the city of Houston. Man. Uh So 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.199 that's where, yeah, man, I was actually um giving Black 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.759 Snow props, you know, bringing them to the big screen 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.000 and just let them know that how much I appreciate it. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.080 That one night, um that he gave me here downtown 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.440 in Houston. I'm and one of the hotels and my 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.160 wife and I would want a chance. I got a 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.040 chance to go check him out spoken word to night 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.320 and m I was reluctant. I was like, baby, h 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.160 you know, but she's like, come on to school with me. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.360 And uh, I got a chance to hear Black Snow 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.279 And he was so awesome. Man, he kind of opened 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.920 my eyes. He told a story about um m mrs 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.240 Ms Jackson and the three boys, and um that that 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:53.360 story totally that just thinking that that was literally maybe 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.560 I don't know, ten years ago and I still remember 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.680 that story, Um that he told me. It was just 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:02.600 so powerful. Yeah. You know book, Uh you know we 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.600 we we got we got history man. Yeah. Man. And 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.240 and like I like I said, Man, I had to 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.760 let you see my little boys grown okay, because when 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.720 they were little bitty boys, I had to go see book. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.000 Hey dad called book. Let's go see book called the 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:24.399 book hey man. Some special times. Yeah it was man. 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.280 Book book was always one thousand man with me and 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.960 my children. Man, he never he was a superstar. I'm 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:34.400 talking about a big ass superstar bro like the first 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.440 and only the Tiger Conways, when you win a bell, No, no, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.040 you're the only. He's the only. He's the only brother 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:46.160 in the UH wrestling UH world to win a bell. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:52.880 I've been d he won the North American and Championship. Actually, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:58.600 the one brother who stepped in before me was run Simmons. Yeah, 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.880 he put it down in deie c W before me. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.240 But when I came along, it was a lot of 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.360 guys that pretty much, um you know, created the blueprint 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:10.000 for me, even though they didn't know they were doing it. 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:11.519 And so many of them did it in so many 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.000 different ways. So when I came in, I looked at 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.200 those guys and I tried to take a little piece 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.239 of every one of them and then add um something 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.440 to it to catleput me to the next level. Because 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:27.080 you know, we we black man, we were always looked 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:31.040 at differently, um than than the others. And so to 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:36.280 say it's it's safe to say that that that that's all. Uh. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.600 It's a fair amount of racism going on in the 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.600 World Wrestling Federation too. I could say that it's a 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.440 fair amount of racism going around in the world everywhere, everywhere, 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.040 But I just a little small pocket, right, No, no, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.920 let me let me. I'm being straight up with um. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.080 And I say that because no matter what you get 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.880 to go, you're gonna get racism. Um. But in a 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.480 company like UM, it was in business like professional wrestling. 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.160 Just think about it, Um, You guys been the Ghetto 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.080 Boys and so many other young um black kids growing up. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:09.440 We never thought about wrestling as our way out of it. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.120 Never did that of us thought about wrestling, you know 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.480 what I mean. That was a sport that white guys did. 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:17.880 That was a sport that you know, totally was you know, 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.120 off limits for as us making it to the next 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.520 level because we didn't see any of us at that 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.840 next level. We didn't what we saw. We saw Tiger 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.560 Conaway Jr. We saw Rocky Johnson and Junkyard Dog. We 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.160 saw have access to that, we had Tony Atlas. Yeah. Yeah, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.960 but it's for us being world champ, you know that, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.080 for us being able to look at that. Guys say, man, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.880 I want to do that, I want to be just 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.880 like that. I can't I can't say that because my 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.080 uncle rotten me and like he's a very cruel dude. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.360 Like I was a little smaller than him, I think 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.000 like five six years older than me, and he was 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:58.640 the World Wrestling Federation champ and my grandmother's bead. He 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.839 the man, the man withou you jumping up in the 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.000 man man and he'll jump and drop kicked me off 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:09.039 the bed into the dough. But for me, I wanted 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.520 to be UM. I wanted to be different. I wanted 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:16.359 to be um considered world championship material, but more importantly, 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.560 but more importantly, I wanted to just be the best 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.279 guy in the locker room. You know, yeah, yeah, you 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.240 know so. But it was it was a hell of 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:28.000 a rude. Hey, I saw you with me and Jane 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.839 and you said the N word though, yeah you know 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:36.400 what that that that's been um that from the hood 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:40.000 man and being caught up and and and totally um 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:43.599 you know the moment because you know, everybody know what 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.359 I was from. You know, everybody knew, you know, I 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.680 had been to prison. Everybody know I didn't grow up 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.599 with us. And the thing is I talked to um 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.599 those guys because I'm in a business word, I'm the 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.400 one percent. Okay, I'm the one percent. Um. So for me, 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.680 Um saying that, I mean just to put it out 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.520 that me saying the N word in front of that 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.680 was just funny. No no, no, no no. But but 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.919 but but I like this, no no, no, no no, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.200 but I like to educate on it. Um. My peers 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.679 had never heard me say the N word before that 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.320 are after that because that's just not war. I took 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:22.520 my work. So I felt like when I did that 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:26.520 old television in front of the world, I let a 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.960 lot of young black kids that looked up to me. Now, 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.920 even though it became an anthem, but for me there again, 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.720 I teach my young people. You know, you gotta know 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.320 how to change your levels. You know, just because you're 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.000 in the hood, UM, don't mean that you gotta act 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.160 like you in the hood all the time. So for me, Um, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.960 that moment I had to catch myself. It definitely was 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.840 a moment that I educated it was sucking fire and 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.480 we know it was an accident, and we know what 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.440 was unintentional because you know you're standing up that would 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.599 means zene man you fire. Imagine though, if that was 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.960 to have been in I would have lost my job, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:07.400 and UM, my whole you know, landscape of my career 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.120 would have changed, you know. So that's why I talk 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.680 about UM. That's why I try to educate from this 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.520 moment where because with young people, one mistake, one mistake, 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.480 that's all it take to change the whole landscape of 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:25.040 the way your life could have been. Yeah. Question, let 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.880 me ask a question. Have you ever accidentally heard somebody 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.640 real bad in the ring? Because that ship that y'all 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.080 doing is like a lot of people think that's bullshit, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.040 But man, coming off the top rope with another body 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.320 on you, that's the real deal. And you're not a 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:46.240 little bitty do all that ship. No, I never heard 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.560 anybody in the ring. UM. Wrestling for me, UM, it's 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:54.400 always been an art. It's you know, it's a science. Um, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.800 it's um too. You know, suspend your imagination for that 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.440 moment in time and make It's like going to see um, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.960 you know, a great magician, and you wonder how you 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:08.880 make the person levitate. Uh, he knows exactly what he's 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.360 doing and he's making you believe it. That's what I 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.320 tried to do. Kind of. No, But the thing is 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:19.840 also with wrestling for me from a perspective, unlike just say, 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:21.520 for the instance, a lot of you know, the young 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.680 guys you see coming up now, Um, if if I 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:28.360 whack you, you know, I'd apologize for it. Um. But 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.160 but it was it was like not ballet. You know, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.959 it was as raw as I possibly can get when 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.480 I was in the ring, walking a very thin line 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:41.560 because you know, it is um simulating a fight. And 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.160 if you it's just like say, for instance, I tell 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.480 my students, you don't actually have to know how to 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:48.400 do it, but you have to look like you know 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.360 how to do it very well. That's too too hall 0:08:52.400 --> 0:09:01.440 of fame rings. I want to be. Oh man, I 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.880 found my way through Neil South Park, Texas. I was 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.640 you know that the Stone Wrangler. You know what you 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.760 gots man, you to up in that and you know, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.360 and for me it was easy. At what point did 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:19.040 you move from U? What were playing leading? Right? Playing dealing? Yeah? 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:24.480 Plain dealing? Yeah yeah, plain dealing Louisiana. How does a 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:31.440 kid from plain Dealing Louisiana make it to the international stage? Hey, man, 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:37.840 my my mother, she still some some values in me, um, 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.560 and they stick with me to this day. Please thank you, yes, ma'am. No, sir, 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.120 it doesn't call she anything to be nice to people. Um. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.480 She brought us here when I was five years old, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:51.440 and and that right there was the beginning, UM seeing 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.880 something totally different. Um as for his life. For my family, UM, 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.000 I'm the youngest of eight and for myself and my 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.880 sister were the entertainment in the family. UM. You know, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.400 we always wanted to be on soul trade. UM. So 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.120 for me, entertainment now entertainment was was great. There again, 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:21.000 I talked to you guys, don't want to perform to 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.600 oh man, I wanted to be. I wanted to be. 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:27.439 I wanted to be Louis. At one point I really 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:35.920 wanted to be. But it was yeah, being being fascinated 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.880 man as a kid, Uh, growing up rocher Garty movies. UM, 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.000 getting getting lost in time with with stuff like that 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.640 because I wasn't a big I wouldn't. I wasn't big 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.640 on school or anything like that, just because of my situation, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:50.720 UM that I was going through. I lost my mother 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.320 when I was young kid. I lost my father when 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.000 I was a young kid. So I was trying to 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:57.120 figure out, you know, you know, what was the next 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.680 meal going to come from? Opposed to you know what 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.720 it was, you know, like in English class next day, 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:04.840 How old were you when you lost your mother and father? 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:08.120 I lost my father when I was ten months and 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.520 I lost my mother when I was thirteen. So so 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.960 my you know, sister, Now we was gonna we were arfen. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:18.720 Um but um I talked to young people there again. 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.199 I tell them, you know, you play the hand, your 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.760 dealt um and and in life, you know, life is 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.240 the hardy thing you're ever going to deal with. Um, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.160 you gotta figure it out. Um, you can't. You can't 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.360 wait for someone else to figure it out for you. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.640 And then the thing is along the way figuring out, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:37.480 you gotta make some mistakes. Uh. And and the thing 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.839 is you gotta learn from those mistakes. If you don't 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.040 learn from those mistakes, you're gonna wind up in the 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.040 same spot. How do how does one walk from the 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:49.240 penitentiary into walk out of the penitentiary and into the 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.960 wrestling world? Like how did you get that break? My brother? Um? Actually, 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:58.840 uh yeah, my brother last Stevie Ray, Uh yeah, he 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.520 was always love wrestling since we were kids. And he 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.640 knew a guy, Ivan Putsky that was opening a wrestling 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:12.720 school and yeah, yeah, guy that I was working for 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.240 sponsored me to go to the wrestling school, and uh, 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:18.760 you know, the pretty much the rest is history. But 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.400 walking out of prison, you know, one thing that motivated 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:23.760 me was the guy, the CEO on the white Horse. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.080 He said, I see you when you get back, you know, 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.760 and and the thing is, and the thing is, I'm 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.600 sure um he saw a lot of those guys lead 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:33.920 that yard, you know, come right back over and over. 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.839 That's what I'm talking about making those same mistakes. I 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:39.280 wouldn't want. You know. My thing was the first time 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.480 I was in the back of the police car, I 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.360 ended up in prison. First time. Yeah, yeah, I never, 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.520 I never. I had never been to jail before in 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.800 my life. Um, the first time. That's why I say 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.439 one mistake could change the hosts and girls. I'm telling 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.319 no seriously and um and um so when when when 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.040 he said that I see you when you get back, 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.160 you know, uh, I did not look at him like 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.160 he was a racist or anything, even though he's white 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.560 guy in the white white you know, big horns. I 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.880 didn't look at him like he was a racist. I 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:13.160 looked at him like, you know, he's saying that for 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:17.880 he's one or two reasons he's he's saying it because 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.800 you know it's something that could possibly happen, or to 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:24.840 motivate me not to come back there. And that's what 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.080 I used it for. And uh, I never you know, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:33.839 seen a prison sentence jail cell before after that. Do 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.520 you ever use your celebrity to go back and speak 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.160 at prisoners? At one point, I was doing that a 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.319 whole lot. Um, right now I'm not doing it a 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.080 whole lot, just because I got so many other business 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.280 ventures and I'm working with kids on a regular basis. Um, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.440 I'm always about giving back. But you know it's force 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.520 the prison system. You know the book, you know, the 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:55.880 book is out, and um, I definitely make sure I 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.520 spread it around. From prison promise, you know, yeah, yeah, 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:04.000 from prison promise, from promise ladies and gentleman, definitely, And 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:08.000 uh that's so it's something that gets uh you know, 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.160 you could you could read and it's what the thing 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.520 with prisoner promises. You see my life and you see 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.160 how it turned out. Anybody can do it if you 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.440 put the work in. Yeah. Have you ever thought about 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:26.360 doing your own um wrestling set up? Yeah? No, no, no, no, 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.200 I'm not talking about doing the coaching part. No, No, 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:32.200 he's a promoter. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:37.920 got my own Reality of Wrestling. Yeah yeah, promotion. You know, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:42.120 we got five thousand subscribers and on YouTube that watch 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.120 that show on a weekly basis, and um is the show. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.120 How can we find um? Just go to YouTube slash 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.960 Reality of Wrestling check it out on the regular. Um. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.080 But we found my show in Texas City at arena 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.360 at that book or t World Jim Arena, and uh 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.080 we're out there every month, um doing it and trying 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.760 to change something. Remember do you remember Paul Bosch a 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.480 weather ring of Paul Bush. Yeah, that's right right here. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.600 Six years let me yeah, this ring is six years 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:13.000 this Paul Boshes ring. Yeah. Man, Paul bosh Man, Texas 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:17.239 legend man. Man, you know what do he represented? And 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:18.960 and you know he was he was like a mentor 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:20.920 to me. And you know, I never got a chance 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.720 to meet him or anything like that, but I was 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:24.560 a young kid, you know, from the opposite side of 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.160 the tracks. But I saw exactly you know, his heart 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.080 and what kind of person he was, Like I said, 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.600 even though I never met him before. Um, you know, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.160 working with the the p A B. A. To Progressive 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:40.160 Amateur Boxing Association. UM. He is the founder UM here 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.680 in Houston for the Boys and Girls Club. I don't 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:48.160 know if you, UM, but esperiually so for for me 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.640 to see, you know, old white white guy, you know, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.240 trying to change. You know, young kids live no matter 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.239 what color they were. You know, he definitely was inspiration. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.280 How did you get your hands on the ring? I 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:04.000 paid a lot of money for it. I bought it, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.480 but I bought it from his wife. Yeah, his wife 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:08.960 was selling the ring and she wanted to go to 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:13.120 someone in Houston. UM that was close to the business. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.520 And I represent Paul Bosh. I keep his dreaming. So 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.400 I feel like a superpower. You know what, man, I'm 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.760 gonna tell you. Ever since I bought this ring, UM, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.880 my wife told me I didn't have to wear my 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.040 wedding ring. This is my this is will be my 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.240 red ring going forward. UM. And I've I've had nothing 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.840 but good luck through the pandemic. UM. A lot of 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.600 people lost. UM. As for as wrestling schools, UM go, 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:43.520 and my school grew exponentiously with as for students go. UM. 0:16:43.560 --> 0:16:45.640 Like I said, my YouTube channel went from a hundred 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.920 thousand to five hundred thousand in one year, and UM, 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.960 I'm you know, just say, for instance, UM, one of 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.520 my students, her name is Angela, UM, came to me 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:02.840 three years ago for kids camp. I'm sorry, UM, fantasy camp. 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:05.080 It's the camp that I do on the weekend. And 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.359 uh it's sixteen years old. And now she's nineteen and 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.240 she's in the w W you know. So yeah, yeah, 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.560 so that right there is something for me. I'm more 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:17.160 proud of, you know, being able to produce the next 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:21.120 generation though, UM opposed to anything that I'm doing right now. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.520 But that's good for the company too. That's good for business. 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:29.840 Oh yeah, just like like like uh this like like 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.040 uh Sam, he was in college. Are you getting people 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.880 in the Yeah yeah, we had three hundred people people 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:43.560 the pandemic. Um yeah, yeah, no, definitely. That's so dope. Man. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.200 You you got your own game brewing, you know what 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:49.719 I mean, it's only gonna getting bigger. Man, you're sixteen years. Um, 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.720 it doesn't you know, it seemed like it went back 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:56.119 like that, but we've had our wrestling school now. Sixteen years. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.840 Sixteen years also marks another milestone. That's when you got married. Yeah, man, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:07.120 you're sixteen years married for sixteen years that going and oh, man, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.160 my wife, we were like a tag team that can't lose. Man. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.600 You know, she's my you know, my left hand. Uh, seriously, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.320 we do everything as a team. You know. We got 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.959 ten year old twins and and it's um, it's been 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.040 a journey for us. And you know, life is life 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.400 is tricky. Uh, you know, you gotta really be all 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.119 in when you you got you got something like this, 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:35.120 when when specially when you're trying to build um at 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.160 the same time, it's got to be a love that's stronger. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.840 I mean, it's it's my wife is my queen. She's 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:46.880 my queen. Um, we've been together twenty years now, and 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:50.560 uh it's still seem like we just got together just 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.240 last week. How stupid we are and how we play 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:56.560 around and dad hadn't left. You know, the fire is 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.199 not gone or anything like that. It's amazing. So so 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:03.680 what is give give us some relationship hecks man? You know, like, 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.040 like what what makes it work for you? You know, 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.240 as a man, you gotta you know, just you gotta 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.520 be able to compromise as a man. Man, It's it's 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.480 hard for a man to say, you know, he's wrong. 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:19.359 It's hard for a man to say, you know, baby, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.960 you know you know you write about that. UM, it's 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.399 it's it's hard to um. You know, let let the 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:28.639 wife have you know, certain responsibilities because you feel like 0:19:28.680 --> 0:19:31.520 you should have that responsibility. UM. It's got to be 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:36.240 a fifty fifty thing. UM. As far as UM making 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.960 decisions go, UM nothing. You know. It's just like say, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.040 for instance, UM, I have nothing UM to hide from 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.880 my wife. You know, my phone ring, she can answer it. UM, 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:50.280 I don't have a you know, a burner phone. I'm 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.080 all in. You can't have one ft in and one 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:58.000 ft out of the relationship because it's not gonna work. Trust. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:03.480 You know, the trust thing. It's gotta be plus percent 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.520 um as far as a relationship go and then working. UM. 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.080 And I know that because I was divorced and my 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.480 um once and then my first wife. You know, she 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.399 did not understand me going on the road and making 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.679 money and UM having to you know, go to the 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.680 bar a lot of times and get something to eat. 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:22.560 And you know, because I'm in the bar, you know, 0:20:22.600 --> 0:20:24.479 she might think she's thinking it's a party going on 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.440 because but but that's the only place we can get 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.119 something to eat being a wrestler after a show. Um, 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.800 they kept kitchen open force Uh. I asked my ex 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:35.399 wife once, uh, and I say, uh, what do you 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.919 think I I go when I leave on Friday and 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:44.680 don't come back until Monday. And she said, I don't 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:47.960 know where you go? And I went. I went in 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:51.320 file for a divorce that day because I knew that 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.320 relationship wasn't gonna work. But y'all gave it a good run. 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.560 I was five years, five years, no kids, um um, 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.480 and it was a it was a It was a 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:07.080 rocky relationship for you know, three of those five years, honestly, 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.440 you know. But I was wanted. I was the type 0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.040 that when I got married, I wanted it to be 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.080 to death, do us part. And that right there. It's 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:20.160 really really hard, um to be with someone and want 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:23.000 to be there to death or do us part. And 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:26.680 what I'm what I have now. It's the hardest thing 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.760 in the world, thinking that I could lose my wife 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.439 one day, you know. But I gotta be able to 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:35.120 look at the life straight in the face because that's 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.280 my woman. I love her, you know, So that's what 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:41.760 life is. We got two kids together, and I got 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.600 one kid he's thirty four years old and he's right 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.440 now in prison. Uh for the same thing that I 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.000 did back when I was in youngster aggravated robbery. Um 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.680 and um Why he didn't learn the lesson that that 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:57.560 I learned. Why he didn't learn the lesson that I 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:01.040 tried to teach so many other kids right now? Um Man, 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.240 that's a hard question to answer. I can't. I can't. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:06.160 Where did I go wrong? You know, I can't tell 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.280 you that. You know I have the same case on 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:13.640 my record, right and you know, I'm sure Like for me, 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.520 when I was going through my situation and I was 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:19.560 going through the process to court and all that stuff, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.440 and you know, dealing with commissary not seeing your family 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:24.879 members and your girlfriend and all that kind of stuff, 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.480 I had already made up my mind when I was 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:32.439 sitting there watching those damn television commercials that's showing the 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.200 food you see, Like, I don't know if if anybody 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:38.640 has ever been in jail, can tell you food has 0:22:38.680 --> 0:22:41.800 never looked more delicious? How bad when you're in jail 0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:47.080 when you see even pizza man, when you see pizza 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.240 when they just show you the pizza like and the 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:53.720 cheese man you'd be like, man, I got to get 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.159 the hell out of that Popeye's chicken. Man that the 0:22:56.240 --> 0:23:02.560 flakes on that it'd be just sold. Be like right, 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.800 my mind up while I was in there and I 0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.080 wasn't going back, And some guys they'll be in the 0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.840 man and they'd be thinking like, well, if I had 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:15.800 just done this, I wouldn't have got caught off. When 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.919 I get out, I'm gonna do it a little bit differently. 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:23.080 I'm gonna still do what I did. Institutional. My brother, 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:26.800 he's institute. Warn Yeah. I mean he go to jail 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:31.119 every fifteen minutes right now. He not yet because I 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.720 just like, maybe a couple of months off. I mean, 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.960 he cool, but but I'm pretty sure he don't want 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:39.360 to go back home for a little while because that's 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:43.320 hopefully one hopefully got to figure out. But every since 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.560 seventeen years old, he's been going. You know, that's the way, 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.399 you know, but that's the way some people life. He is. 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.399 Some people get to a point to where jail is 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.600 the new him for him. A lot of people feel 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.679 like once they go through that, that's as far as 0:23:55.720 --> 0:24:00.960 they're gonna go. Um for me, Um, I knew jail 0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.480 was not the place for me. You know what I knew. 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:10.840 I never saw myself throughout my life time. You know, 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.920 I never imagined myself going to jail as a kid 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.919 just because I was a good kid. I wasn't a 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:18.920 bad kid, all right. I wasn't a kid that was 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.639 out there trying to get in the ship and you know, 0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:23.600 trying to get in trouble robbing and the stealing and stuff. 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.080 I think that just wasn't me. Um, he was a 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.119 good kid that did a bad thing. Well, I just 0:24:28.280 --> 0:24:31.080 was I got caught up. I talked about being in 0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:33.439 that whirlwind. You know, once you're once you're in the cycle, 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.400 you know, you didn't get out into a stop. Um. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:38.199 And for me, I was in the cycle, and you 0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.080 know what, and I wasn't gonna you know, I didn't 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:43.000 want to get out. I was having fun, you know, 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.600 even in that moment, you know, the chase, even you 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:47.479 know with the robberies, it was you know, it was 0:24:47.520 --> 0:24:50.280 a it was kind of like a kick from from 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.800 a perspective, not understanding what life is really about and 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.800 what were that kid could actually take me? Um. And 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.320 then when I got in jail, you know, my sentence 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.639 range from five to ninety nine and then I stopped 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:09.520 taking out Okay, whole life flash. Yes, so you're like 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:16.760 convenience stories or we were robbing up fast food restaurants. Yeah, yeah, 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:21.240 you know fast food restaurants. Really Listen, now, well, I 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.280 ain't gonna tell nobody what to do, Like, I'm not 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.400 trying to tell somebody what to do. I'm just saying that, 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:30.040 you know, there's a certain convenience too, uh robbing fast 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:34.560 food restaurants. I'm just saying, what's the convenient. I'm just saying, 0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:37.600 you know, like you get the prize of the burg 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:44.080 on the way out reaching the I'm trying to figure 0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:50.439 the convenient. Well, most food fast food restaurants, Uh, you 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:54.920 know they're safe in that room, right and uh yeah, 0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:57.000 if you can just get to the manager, you know, 0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:00.760 like come on, you know you can do that at 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.880 any bake. Why go to the restaurant? Well, well, well, 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.679 well the bank has more levels and and also the 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:09.960 bank is federal, so they're taking a lot more personally 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:17.680 the bank. But if you go inside of a restaurant, uh, 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:23.000 then certain things fast food restaurant normally normally they keep 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.320 it normally they keep the safe safe open. Right. Well, 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:30.480 not normally, not normally, but it's it's it's not hard 0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:41.080 to get them. Now, here's a deal they wanted. Now 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.400 having said that, boys and girls, please do not try 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:49.000 this at home. It is a horrible idea because here's 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:53.960 the thing about this thing about robbering, just like selling dope. Eventually, yea, 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:59.439 eventually you will get caught. Because here's it's what happens 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:05.480 is that most people they will continue to do get 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.679 It's hard to miss that fast, getting money that fast, 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:14.840 that easy. Like I mean, Pablo Escobar, you know, somebody 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.080 who had had millions and millions of dollars who could 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.320 have retired, but he said, man, I gotta keep making 0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:21.280 this money. I think that when you that goddamn how 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:23.600 you can't retire. Well, I'm just saying, you know, but 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:26.680 but just think about this money. Just think about the 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.880 boys down there in Atlanta. You know who's making all 0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.800 that money back in the day, you know, you know 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:35.080 the boys, uh Big Beach, the boys, Um, they were 0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:39.720 making so much money. But it just seems like but 0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.280 it seems like you have enough money they want to 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.320 walk away from it and and do something with just 0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:49.639 calling your man the game. I think I think Also 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.520 I think that, like, I think that the lifestyle really 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:56.160 is addictive, just like any other I think the lifestyle, 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.359 I think and in the same winning that money and 0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.520 that money come that fast. Look man, I mean, I 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:03.800 mean you're like cry story. You're like crying story. Look 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.560 at John Gotti. John Gotti, he was all in. He said, 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.120 I'm a gamester, you know. He said, I'm going to easy, 0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.760 to go to prison. I'm gonna die one or two. Um, 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.240 but I'm gonna do my thing. So I understand, you know, 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.200 getting caught up in that lifestyle. But um, you know, man, 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.480 it's life is is is so quick, and when you 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:24.480 got that kind of money, you could definitely, um live 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.880 it the way you want for a lone time. Why 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.000 you know, cash out like that. That's what I want. Yeah, 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.880 And I think I think it's like what I said, 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:37.520 I talked about fast food stories. No, no, I ain't 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.560 talking about that. I'm talking about making big money like 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:43.440 these guys. And why can't you walk away from from 0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.840 the game. The game is addictive. I've been in the game, 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.560 um um, but prison made me see that. You know, 0:28:49.800 --> 0:28:51.360 I didn't want to be in the game, and I 0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.640 wanted to do something legal and make some some real 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.960 money and live life. You know what I mean, because 0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:59.080 I don't know what that lifestyle is like. I don't 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:01.000 know how I feel, but it's got to feel good. 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:05.640 That is in money in wrestling for the individual. I 0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.920 know it's money in in wrestling for the actual promoter 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:12.840 because we have paid three, four or five hundred dollars 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:19.560 for seats in the damn Toyota Center. Uh, you know, 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.240 the Summit. I'm lying in the Summit, man, to go 0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:25.520 see some some damn wrestling shows. Man. And it ain't 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:28.160 no different than the rap game. You know. The guys 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.080 who are the guys that top make the money to 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.160 guys you know, that's you know, drawing your house. They 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.480 make the money to God, that's some of the most merchandise. 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.560 You know. He's you know, making money, you know. So 0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:45.080 it's a it's a very very lucative bitch. Um. I 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:50.040 got a million dollar house, you know, so I've very 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.840 well for myself here wrestling was a champion though. Man, 0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.440 Well that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. How 0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.240 are you making up in the bag. That's just like 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.440 in any other spoord and thing is it's like you 0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.440 just said, you know, the promoters making his money. But 0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:08.440 the promoter what's the guy's name? But but but but 0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:11.000 the promoter is going to make his money. But if 0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:13.360 you get caught up, but caught up with how much 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.640 money he's making, then you really get lost. You get lost, 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.400 you know what I mean? So I at thinking about 0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:22.200 how much money you making? You negotiating for yourself exactly exactly? 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.479 And when when when young folks get out there and 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.600 you know, get ahead of themselves to start, that's exactly, 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:30.440 that's when they can blow a million dollar deal up. 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.160 You know much money. You know what happens. I'd like 0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:35.800 to say it's a million dollars a show for something 0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.080 for some wrestlers. Oh no, a wrestler don't make a 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.360 million dollars per show. Um. Wrestlers are contracted and they 0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:44.280 make as much money as you know, um, their start 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.600 power take them um as far as you know, how 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.840 higher up you're on the card. Um if you're in 0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:51.520 the main event. Uh, certain pay per views, you know 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.520 what I mean? Stuff like that? Don't you in a 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:59.360 pay per views? They definitely definitely if you, like I say, 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:03.880 if you uh the bush, everybody don't get that everybody. 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:09.880 I'm just saying, if you a main event guy and wrestling, um, 0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:21.720 these days, you're making easier lill. You know, throwing back 0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.080 to what we were talking about about the about how 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.080 you get caught up trying to count somebody else's money 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:32.200 instead of being focused on your own. Uh, this happens 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.560 a lot in the music industry where I know, like 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:43.240 very talented people they're so like obsessed with nobody fucking 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.600 over them that they end up sucking themselves because you 0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.760 gotta take a chance, Like I mean, you gotta, you 0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:50.360 gotta take a chance. And I'm gonna tell you, like 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:54.480 for anybody out that that's inspiring. If you're coming into 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:59.040 the game, more than likely you're not gonna start at 0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:01.680 the top with paid Your pay grade is not going 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.800 to be on the level of those guys that inspired 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.800 you to get in the game. You know, Like if 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:10.040 you look at from from Michael Jackson and Stevie Want, 0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.640 all of these guys, Elvis everybody started somewhere and all 0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:17.080 I'm said, my first deal, gon, you gotta you gotta 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.040 get your foot in doing Some of these guys they're 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.479 never gonna get in the door because they're really just 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:25.680 totally obsessed with this thing about not getting fun. Well, 0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.680 they really don't understand. I came in just say, first, 0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:32.200 just when I first joined um W c W company 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:35.480 I was with before w W f WW. My first 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:40.760 contract was seventy five dollars okay, now seventy dollars for 0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.040 me as a kid coming out of South Park A year. 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:48.360 I was like, I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm like, 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:52.080 I can do that. And uh. But it was guys 0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.960 that was nowhere near talented as I was making two 0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.920 d fifty thousand, and I'm like, I could have been 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:01.840 you know, like you know, like hey known that whatnot? Um, 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:03.720 But I said, I gotta get my foot in the 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.080 door before I can start making any moves. Uh. And 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:08.000 then once I get my foot in the door, things 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.920 that happened. At the end of the of that company, 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:13.560 I was making more money than all those guys. Yeah, 0:33:13.720 --> 0:33:16.240 at seventy five k. How does that money dispersed? Like 0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.800 is it? Is it over a number of fights? And 0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:21.400 how does that go? Um? It's you get a check 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.760 in the mail every every every other week. It's not 0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.480 over a matter of fights. You know. I had a 0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:31.520 guaranteed countract SEV year seventy five a year. Yeah, that 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:34.440 was my first contract. Yeah, and I don't know if 0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:37.320 my my first contract, I don't know. I may have worked, 0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.200 um hundred fifty days out of that year. Yeah, what 0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.920 do you think about it was seventy five dollars from 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:50.040 compared to my last job making fifteen thousand. Absolutely, you 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.360 think about the UFC fighting, you know what, I love 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.400 the um to to talk about it. I love uh, 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:02.080 you know, um watching it, um, but I wouldn't want 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.400 any of my you know, friends to do it. Uh. 0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.640 It's not a sport that the human body was meant 0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:13.080 to do. Well, it's it's like, well, the thing is, 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:15.359 I would like it a heart. I would like them, 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.600 I would like exactly. I wouldn't like it a whole 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.600 lot more if those guys got paid more. They don't 0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.360 get paid no whole hell of a lot of money. 0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.200 You know what. The top guys, well, the top guys 0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:28.919 get paid, UM, get money, but you know, they don't 0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.920 make more money than the top professional wrestler you know, 0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:35.520 nowhere near it, you know. And and when you see 0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.799 those guys going out there and beat themselves up on 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.680 a on a regular basis, you know, in their careers 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:46.399 only last most of them three to four years. I've 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.640 seen so many of those guys start their career and 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.879 finished their career. It's not even funny. Um in their 0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.279 careers after this over with, you know what they're gonna 0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.839 do after that? You know, So most of them having 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.399 you know, over their career, just say finished and then 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:03.560 the UFC eight years and you look up how much 0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:05.560 money that they've made, just say they made three point 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.359 five billion dollars and eight years. That's like, that's like 0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:13.839 working every day. It's like having a regular job. Yeah, 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:16.879 when you gotta wait a minute, wait a minute, three 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.120 point five and eight years. When you got a house, 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:27.319 a wife, um, kids, insurance taxes that that three So 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.400 that's that's that's that's more like you know, considering considering taxes, 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.239 first of all, that's about three hundred thousand a year. 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.920 And then if you got family and house and cars 0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.320 and all that kind of stuff. I mean, it's still 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:46.040 that's still the average person going on how you live. Yeah, right, 0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.399 that three hundred thousand dollars a year. For me, that's 0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.719 not you know, you know, that's not a whole lot 0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.680 of money. Like I said, when you got kids and 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:56.960 you know, wife that you gotta get a hat of 0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.399 nails done. You know, wife, they got to get their 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.239 heads and nails done. Man. Man, they don't know how 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:10.799 serious that is. Not have a black woman EASi serious her, miles, Man, 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.400 you might want to go outside the race just for 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:21.319 that alone. Hey, happy, I'm not saying no, I'm not 0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.240 saying nothing. I was told my wife I was married 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.520 a white woman before we ever got married. I told 0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.120 my wife I'm married a white woman. Now, why why 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.279 did you telling? Because it was afting experience I had 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.759 with my first wife and we were out, was having 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:40.040 in Vegas, her a bunch of her friends. We were 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.440 just talking and that's I'd never married black woman again. 0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.200 Her end up getting married. We've been together for twenty years. 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:48.719 She was like, I'm gonna show you because you know, 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:54.960 women like having first wife had nails alone. Right. Have 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:59.759 you ever looked into like getting into like acting and stuff. Well, 0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:02.080 you've been in a few films right already. Yeah. I 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.040 like going all the way. I've been in the front 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:10.040 of the camera for thirty years, and uh, I like producing. 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:12.160 I like being behind the camera. I still have to 0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:13.759 do stuff, you know, in front of the camera. Now, 0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.719 but it's not a place that I really want to be, 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.640 even though I'm comfortable there. But I just I'm just 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:20.920 so past that part of my life. UM, and I 0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:24.319 just want to do something else. It's not about me anymore. UM. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:26.120 It's far as being in front of the camera. I 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.040 just like being relevant these days. I don't want to 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.399 be the start. I don't want to be the guy 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.960 in front. I like being you know, low keying behind 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:37.480 the scenes. Um. But but staying relevant it's really really cool. Uh. 0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.120 I'll give props. You know. I always say, you're never 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:44.160 gonna be the guy that's always on top. Um, somebody's 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:46.680 always gonna boom take that spot, boom boom boo. But 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.200 the people to stay relevant and being played, you know, 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.799 it's very very important for me. I like that bad 0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:55.000 buddy he wrote a song about me, and uh and 0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:56.520 he got it book or team and you know, we 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.719 did the video, and um, I said, man, that's really 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:04.279 really cool, man, for a young Puerto Rican kid write 0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.600 a song about me and keeps me relevant from my 0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:12.439 whole different genre and then a totally totally different form 0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.239 of entertainment and go, wow, that's pretty pretty cool. So 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.520 sometimes you have you need someone else to keep you relevant. 0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:20.840 But you gotta you know, but you gotta know how 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.279 to you know, keep yourself in the game. You know, 0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:28.080 always oh yeah, but that's the thing, you know, But 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:29.920 that's the thing, you know what I mean. And I 0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:33.560 appreciate that so much. Um coming, I can say from 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:35.560 a kid all the way across the water that doesn't 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.360 even speak English and he's watching me on television and 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.520 he goes, that's the guy, you know that I like, 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:45.640 you know, and it's just it's humbling in a lot 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.080 of ways. But but I'm always about the future. I'm 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.880 always about reinventing myself. You know. I'd say, if I 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.880 had a flat top of the fade, you know, we 0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.000 would probably be having this conversation because you know, I 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.040 probably wouldn't, you know, continue to move on. So I 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:00.680 had to change the way I looked aged what you know. 0:39:01.160 --> 0:39:03.840 You know, I do things from a certain perspective just 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.760 to keep up with young people. You know, I gotta saying, 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.959 you know, um, we said respect your oldest for years, 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:11.759 I say respect your young people. I work with a 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.359 lot of young people because they in the future and 0:39:14.400 --> 0:39:16.680 they definitely know how to create in this world. That 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.080 we're living in right now, so you know, just knowing 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:20.719 how to you know, keep up with the times or 0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.319 the times and pass you by what I like to, 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:28.080 you know, think about more than anything. Yeah, what about 0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:31.839 that that dog? Didn't you have a dog? About thirty 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:37.160 action figures? Yeah, that's what's cool, man. I never a 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.239 kid come and grow up growing up in South Park. 0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.000 You know, you don't dream and stuff like that. You 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.440 don't think about that kind of stuff. But you know 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:50.120 it's cool, you know, it's it's all. Uh, I love it, 0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.359 you know. But I'd never look at myself like other 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.839 people look at me. All right. I don't look at 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.720 myself in the mirror and seeing nobody else other than Junior, 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.600 the kid who grew up you know, you know I'm 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.880 still the same person. I never can look at myself 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.160 like other people look at me. Uh, I'll lose focus 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:10.960 on get what I'm really here for. I don't look 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:12.880 at but I don't look at myself as a celebrity 0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:18.600 like every like most people do. Um, I'm humble. I'm humble. 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.680 I'm very humble because you know, I know how hard 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.760 it is to get there, and I know how fast 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:29.799 you could go away from How do you maintain your 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:36.799 control when somebody who knows your history knows who you are? 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:41.600 You book a tedious international celebrity, they know you are, 0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.239 you're a tough guy. How do you maintain control when 0:40:45.280 --> 0:40:47.399 you know somebody's trying to push that button to get 0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:51.759 a reaction? I go, I give him the reaction? Name one. 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:59.440 You damn right, every time? Every time, just like just 0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.400 just say first, I want to go. I went out 0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.640 to eat one day, me my wife, and it was 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.960 just a couple sitting right here and we're standing right 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:14.360 here waiting to get our table. Okay, and uh we 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.000 wait maybe ten minutes so they're getting They finally give 0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:20.239 us a table, give us a table over here, we 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.439 sat down or our food person still sitting over there. 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.080 They're eating their food. They finished eating their food. They 0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.440 come over the over to my table as I'm getting 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.560 ready to start eating my food and go said, can 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:33.960 I get an autograph? I said, I say, hey, b 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.319 excuse me. You know I'm eating right now. If you 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.480 catch me after that finish eating, you know, outside it 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.400 He goes, and he goes, oh, man, you know you 0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:41.920 don't have to be an asshole. But I don't want 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.400 to autography. The funk with you was when you was 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.600 eating your food. I said, did that funk with you? 0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:48.760 Did I funk with you when you was inating your food? 0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.640 You know, get the funk out of here. So I'm 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.799 human just like you are. I got emotions just like 0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.960 you are, like you do. And I'll go there just 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.600 because I feel like I can protect myself. You know, 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:07.480 it's just that simple. No, No, it's just but but 0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.440 if someone you know is trying to irk me, you know, 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.280 I'm gonna give it to But but like I say, 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.880 I have a say, um, it doesn't cost me anything 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.080 to be nice to people. That person could have had 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.279 that same consideration, but he didn't. You see, I don't know. 0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.319 See I gotta tick in my head. So I don't 0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:29.120 know if I want to think that I could maintain 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:32.680 control and I think about these type of things, but 0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:37.919 I want to maintain control, like listen, man, But I 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:41.799 don't know what had happened if somebody tried me like 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.839 I don't. They might on a particular date, I might 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:51.239 you know, I might let it slide on another date. 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.520 You know what I'm saying that I might knock the head. 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:59.759 I might be checked it and shake for me. I'm 0:43:00.640 --> 0:43:04.399 I like I like to test myself. I like being 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:08.880 confrontational sometimes if somebody, if somebody, you know, rub me 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.560 the wrong way, I'll get confrontational a heartbeat. And just 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.640 because I still feel like I can protect myself, I 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.320 still want to know if I I still want to 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:19.680 get in the fight every now and then. But but 0:43:19.800 --> 0:43:23.120 conflict is costly, right, you know, conflict is costly. Even 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.760 if you win, you could take a nail. And and and 0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.319 that's and what I mean by that is that you know, 0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.200 first of all, you gotta watch you back, especially you know, 0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:33.200 you gotta always watch your back. Anytime you get into 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.680 a physical confrontation with someone, you have to watch your back. 0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:38.680 And another thing is that let's say you beat the 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.360 head in you, you go to jail. You know what 0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:43.840 I'm saying. Now, you gotta get gotta deal with lawyers. 0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:48.239 You gotta have this jury. Sometimes that is not that 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.640 don't that don't don't you can't. You ain't gonna never 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.480 stop being a man, if you know, it's just the 0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.480 way I don't know, that's that's the way I am. 0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:00.880 I'm I'm still the same kid it that was running 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:03.200 around on the streets, I got my I got you know, 0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:06.560 I got money. Now. I mean, I'm you know, a 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.440 person that people saying they know I'm somewhat famous whatnot. 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.359 But I'm still the same person that I've always been 0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:15.759 and I don't ever want to stop being, you know, 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.440 the person being able to man up and and and 0:44:19.560 --> 0:44:22.359 tell a person man funk off, you know. I mean, 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.240 because there again, if someone put you in that position 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.560 to have to say that. I don't know. For me, 0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:32.200 it's a release. My wife she always gets. She always like, baby, 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.640 don't your baby, baby. You know what I'm like, you know, 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:37.200 I gotta do it. You know you was telling you, 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.120 was talking to tell it was the kids came to 0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.400 my house one time. Let me tell you what happened 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.360 to me. I was at my house on a Sunday 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:45.680 because I was on the road. Um, I was wrestling 0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:47.480 at the time. I had an ice pack on my knee, 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.960 was football on, sitting there watching television, and I have 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.720 a gat around my house and the doorbell was ringing. 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:55.480 I gotta give a bell out there. D D D 0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.280 D D D D D over and over and over. Um, 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.160 I'm like, what the hell. I'll go to the in 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.560 a calm I say, who is it? You know, here's 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:04.200 some voice to say his book or tea here and 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:06.359 go to the door now. And I opened the door 0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.520 and I'll go, you know, what do you guys want 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.319 to go? Who was some water girls? One is on 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.160 the gold cart, one is on on a on a 0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:19.400 mini bike. I go, teenagers. One's eighteen, one's nineteen. So 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.080 they're they're eight, they're of age, they're grown as far 0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.359 as I'm concerned. Um, And I told him, look, guys, 0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:27.560 get away from my house. I don't sign autographs at 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:31.000 my house. And and the kids said, well, fuck you didn't, nigger. 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.319 They took off on their mini biking motors and a 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.600 little up gold cart. I go to jump in ice 0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.400 pack with flying off my knee and stopped hurting. Not 0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.319 my adrenaline and endorphins went everywhere. I go jump in 0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:47.560 the hummer. And my wife like, baby, let me go 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.160 with you. And I took off, you know, go down 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.200 to the end of the street. Get if I look, 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.799 can't see, if my turn right, just to see if 0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:56.720 I go this way, they might be down there. Finally 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.040 I saw both of them, one of them on a 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.359 little mini bike. He went down this little area why 0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:03.160 I couldn't go in my hummer, but the one of 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.200 the gold card, I cut him off. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes, 0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.879 when you get pisched off, you go a place that 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:14.000 you know you normally would go. Um. The kid on 0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:15.960 the gold cart, he went through these people's yard and 0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.080 he's literally doing dough nuts in this gold card and 0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.080 these people's jars, probably a million two billion dollar house. 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.120 You know. Those people came out the next day wondering 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.040 what the hell just happened? Like it comes out on 0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:29.480 the street. I followed him in by hammer right, I 0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:31.640 get up on his back. He goes to these other 0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:36.399 people's yard and the chain comes off the gold card. 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.520 I put the hummering park and I power walk to 0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.960 him and I said, you better not run. I grabbed 0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.600 him by the back of his head. Open my hommer door, 0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.600 and I threw him in the hommer. Okay, now get 0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:50.080 in the other side. Let's say call me that. Now 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.839 called say it again, and you know, he was like, 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:54.719 I'm sorry, man, it was my friend. Is. My friend 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.960 said take me to your house. Man, I want you 0:46:56.960 --> 0:46:59.239 to tell your mother exactly what you told me. So 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:01.719 we're going to his house. Before we get a couple 0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.040 of blocks. It's like four police cars behind me, all right, 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:09.839 you know, just like you just see I gotta get 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:11.920 that each other. But now I get out of the 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.839 car and the cop goes of what's going on, man, 0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:19.640 you know, and I tell him exactly. You know, I 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.880 didn't get the trouble or anything. Um, But if I 0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:24.960 go there, I'm gonna go there, and I don't accept 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.719 the consequences when they come. Um. It's just like going 0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:29.520 to court. You know. You know, if you, if you, 0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.160 if you, if you, if you, if you gotta lie, 0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:35.759 you gotta think. I feel like I always try to 0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:37.440 feel like the truth is gonna be on my side 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.320 because you know, I have nothing to lie about and 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.200 hopefully that a workout for me. My word has been 0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:49.520 that's bad. Wait a minute. That wasn't a kid. He 0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:54.480 was a crown as man. He was he was grown man. Yeah. 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.520 I was sharing with with Book of t earlier that 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.000 I had a similar story, Like we were talking about 0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:03.600 this kid, these little white kids that were these kids? 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.680 Why are you talking about I didn't want to make presumptions, 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:09.960 you know, they said, you know what I mean, I 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.400 would have I would have did the same thing. If 0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:18.040 they were black kids. So I'm at home on the weekend, 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.960 like it's early. Nope, I'm the type of dude that 0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:25.440 nobody rings my bell that I don't know if you 0:48:25.600 --> 0:48:27.800 if you knock on my door, I got to already 0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.480 know that who it is. So I hear to do 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:34.040 a bell ring, I wake up. It's like nine o'clock 0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:39.120 in the morning. I come through in my role. I 0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:44.480 got the shotgun hanging. I got my shotgun hanging, and 0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:46.040 I just opened it, or I could have looked out 0:48:46.040 --> 0:48:47.600 the window, but I wanted to let them know it's 0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:52.719 a man in his house. So I just big confortation. Yeah, 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.839 confortation opened the door and it's like four little white 0:48:56.920 --> 0:49:04.239 kids standard outside and they're like, uh sorry, Mr D 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.920 really D, can we get an autograph? And I was like, 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.840 you got the shot good by your leg. I'm like, 0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:17.520 oh man, be careful now because I would have shot you. 0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.879 But but I want to. I went ahead and gave 0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.120 the kids some autographs. But but but after that point, 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:27.120 I didn't. I didn't. Every house that I've lived in 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.080 Sensus had been gating, oh man. And the thing is, 0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.160 you know people these days, you don't know why didn't knock. 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.640 I've had people knock on my my my actually read 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:39.160 that bell at midnight. Um literally, But you know, actually 0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:41.879 for me, you know, so you just never know um 0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.920 with people these days, so you gotta be confrontational sometimes. 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:47.520 And for me, I'm I'm very I'm like I'm like 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.960 a pit bull, especially like with my family, you know 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.600 what I mean, I'm always thinking about them as well, 0:49:52.640 --> 0:49:56.640 and sometimes you For me, I know, I'll put my 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.759 families safety before mine any day of the week. I 0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:02.440 don't I take a bullet, no matter what I mean. 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.200 I just know I would give a bullet. I'll give 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:08.760 one exactly what I'm saying and then take the consequences 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:13.960 of what happened. Um, just because I'm still that person, 0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.480 I'll never want to lose that. Yeah, you should only 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:19.680 want to make sure I can get away with it. Yes, 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:26.600 I think I think the key is to to have 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:30.359 the intention of getting If your life is an imminent danger, 0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.520 you can pop. And that's what That's what nobody comes. 0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:39.520 We texted, Yeah, if your life is an imminent danger, 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:43.520 you should. It doesn't necessarily mean that that they won't 0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:45.520 try to drag you off into a courtroom. Are you 0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:48.880 going to court. Yeah, you're going to jail. Yeah, and 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:54.000 your firearms getting confiscated, right yeah, well yeah, yeah. It 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:58.440 all depends on it. It depends on how zealous the 0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:02.120 prosecuted is brown, black, and I live in the state 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:05.799 of Texas. Every every prosecutor go ahead, every prosecutor trying 0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:08.160 to move up to judge. You know. So you know 0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.280 when I was, when I was in uh the county jail, 0:51:12.880 --> 0:51:15.239 this judge, his name was you may have heard of. 0:51:15.280 --> 0:51:22.680 His nator's name was Judge Ted pol And I say, 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.359 human being with caution. You just see what I'm saying. 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.960 That's exactly what I'm talking about. You know. Sometimes like 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:32.440 uh like just making a joke but being dead as serious. Man, 0:51:32.440 --> 0:51:35.319 they'd be like, well, what about Kamala Kamala Harris. Yeah, 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:37.520 I like Kamala, but she didn't locked him on the Ted. 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:39.640 That's what I always say, Hey man, I'm gonna tell 0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:44.040 you right now, man, that that name ring fear to 0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.000 every sale in the county. Man just hoping and praying 0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:50.920 that they didn't go before judge that pope because they 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.560 knew they was gonna get a whole lot of times 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.319 he locked up his son. Hey man, you know, so 0:51:55.600 --> 0:51:58.279 that that everybody in that business, you know, they're trying 0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:00.760 to move up. That that's the system. That's the system 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:04.160 of it. It ain't about saving lives. It's about, you know, 0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:06.400 how much money I can make. Remember that time, to 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:09.120 remember that time when the uh when he told a 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:11.440 guy that having any steps, it takes for you to 0:52:11.480 --> 0:52:13.760 get up to them to the bench, that's how many years? 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:15.719 How many years? And in the dude roll and he 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:22.680 let him go. I didn't hear that story, but he 0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:26.200 was notorious for those types of star man. Yeah, that 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.920 dude rolled up there to him and he met him. 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:35.680 Go hey, man, like I said, Man, that that name 0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.520 ring Fear and and that right there, that right there 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.440 just lets you know how big of a game it 0:52:40.560 --> 0:52:43.320 really is. You know, if the if the guys in 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:48.120 the cell block no, a certain judge's name and and 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:53.920 that name could totally determine you know, their life, yeah, 0:52:53.960 --> 0:52:57.040 the rest of it. Yeah, it's amazing and it's cold 0:52:57.080 --> 0:53:00.680 blooded that that man we want to with another man 0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:04.319 in that position, unless he was a rapist or a 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:07.000 child murderer or some ship like that. But just because 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.680 the man, you know, I was trying to feed his 0:53:09.800 --> 0:53:13.120 family and he was hustling, you know. Yeah, some of 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.840 these him with this ship in the first place. Some 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:20.000 of these judges and prosecutors, they are who they convict, 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:24.600 you know, they are who they sent to jail. You know, 0:53:24.880 --> 0:53:28.560 they are that that and that's the irony of having 0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.919 a human beings sit in judgment of another human being. 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:42.800 Oftentimes they are the person who they persecute and prosecute. 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:48.719 Why are the sentencing guidelines different for black people than 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:52.160 it is for white people? Yeah? Why why can't Timmy 0:53:52.200 --> 0:53:56.520 get caught with I mean, it has nothing to do 0:53:56.560 --> 0:54:01.920 with that's nothing to do with race. Well, the thing 0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:05.239 is who wrote the laws? I mean, I mean I 0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.879 don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't. 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.359 Let me straighten that out because something some food out 0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:13.040 there probably listening to the podcast and going like, what 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:14.759 did you say? That have nothing to do with race? 0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:20.040 All right, dummy, listen, we know what it is. We 0:54:20.120 --> 0:54:21.920 know what it is. I mean it's America, man, I 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:24.640 mean that's what it is. I mean, like I said, 0:54:24.640 --> 0:54:27.200 it was written that way. I mean, it didn't happen 0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:33.880 like that. Yeah, how you making stop if that judge 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:38.760 sentence that black dude for more time? Than she sentenced 0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.200 that white guy. Then I feel like the judge need 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.720 to do the remainder that time when she gets popped. 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.439 You know the way the way I look at that dude, 0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:49.640 I mean, I mean, just to be real. That's the 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:52.680 only way I can keep it. It's real. I talked 0:54:52.680 --> 0:54:55.640 about this all the time, you know, we we're talking 0:54:55.640 --> 0:54:58.160 about you know, the centisen guy's lines and this and 0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.960 that and whatnot the other that. I think that's one 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.520 part of the problem. Um. I think the bigger part 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:06.719 of the problem is putting yourself in that situation. You 0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:09.640 know what to deal with from the beginning. You put 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:13.440 yourself in that situation and you get caught. Um I 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:17.640 said it, I said it earlier. Um As for my situation, go, 0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:20.359 I played the hand that I was dealt. Okay, now 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:23.480 you find yourself in in front of Ted Poele, you're 0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.560 gonna have to deal to hand. You you you're dealt 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:29.560 because you put yourself in that situation. Got sentienson God lives, 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.000 yet they should be a whole lot different than they are. 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:36.080 But um, I said Mike Tyson having that young eighteen 0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:38.760 year old girl in his hotel room at two o'clock 0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:41.200 in the morning. He put himself in that situation for 0:55:41.280 --> 0:55:46.479 that to happen. She put herself. No, I'm not saying 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:50.480 she wasn't grown, But that ain't what I'm saying. That 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.040 ain't what I'm saying. I'm saying Mike Tyson put himself 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.120 in a position that he didn't have to be in. 0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.480 If Mike Tyson wanted the piece of ass, all he 0:55:58.520 --> 0:56:00.279 had to do was make a phone call and it 0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.160 would have been straight. I mean, we're in this we're 0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:04.200 sitting here in this room right now. If a young 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:07.000 woman come in this room and then leave out this 0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:11.000 room and the young woman came out women, if this 0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.840 young woman came in this room and started doing something, 0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.520 wait a minute, No, no, wait a minute. No, I'm 0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:19.600 just I'm just letting you know. I'm talking about put 0:56:19.640 --> 0:56:22.239 yourself in the situation, because I've been in the situation. 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:25.320 War I'm in the hotel room and all the cocaine 0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:27.960 come out. Okay, I could stay there, do the cocaine 0:56:28.000 --> 0:56:30.680 if I want to, and then I could leave that room. 0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:33.719 And then uh that that. That next day I go 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:35.520 go to work and they said, you got a drug 0:56:35.520 --> 0:56:38.480 test today. I gotta deal. I gotta deal with the consequence. 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:43.000 What I'm saying is that I put myself in that different. No, no, 0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:51.040 it's different. Different. We're talking about consenting adults. And we 0:56:51.480 --> 0:56:53.319 let me said, we're talking about adults. What we know. 0:56:53.440 --> 0:56:56.719 What we know is we're talking about adults, right, and 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:01.640 we all know that if you have two wrong folks 0:57:02.080 --> 0:57:06.000 who are in a hotel room, you know what mind 0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.200 you two o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning, 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.360 we know what go down? All right? The only reason 0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.000 and this could have this could have this could have happened. 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.919 First of all, this could have happened to anybody when Mike, 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:21.720 when Michael did no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:25.800 it could happen. It couldn't have happened to anybody. No, no, no, no. 0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:28.920 I'm gonna tell you I've been in this situation. I 0:57:28.960 --> 0:57:33.080 have to before. I've been in this situation before with 0:57:33.160 --> 0:57:36.720 the young lady and and and she said, no, I 0:57:36.720 --> 0:57:38.520 don't think I want to do that, you know what 0:57:38.520 --> 0:57:41.480 I mean. And the first thing I say is, Okay, 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.080 let's get up and let's get How do we know 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.080 Mike didn't say that? Well, how do we know he did? Yeah, Well, 0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:52.560 we don't. And that's why that's why the press, because anybody, okay, okay, 0:57:52.760 --> 0:57:55.800 watch this, watch this. I'm with a young woman. And 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.880 and and then like let's just say, let's just say, 0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:02.240 whatever happened, I decide, you know what, you decided you 0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:04.520 don't want to do anything. And I say, okay, all right, 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.440 we'll see later. And you walk out, and now you 0:58:07.520 --> 0:58:10.360 how at me? You get that? You know what? I 0:58:10.400 --> 0:58:13.600 should just say he tried to rape me. Well, okay, 0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:21.560 let me say that. Well, so she might have wanted something, 0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.960 perhaps because it was like, funk that I'm not giving 0:58:24.960 --> 0:58:27.880 you anything. Maybe okay, I got something for your ass, 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.160 you know what. And that's and don't you guys, you 0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:35.200 guys are missing the point. The point is Mike Tyson 0:58:35.240 --> 0:58:38.240 put himself in a situation for something to happen. That's 0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:41.040 just that's okay, what I'm what I'm saying. What I'm 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.880 saying is that what I'm saying is that all of 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:46.880 us put ourselves in a situation for something. No, no, no, no, no, 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:50.160 that's not true. That's not true because like I just 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.080 I just gave you a scenario about the cocaine coming out. 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:56.240 But that's your choice. No, thats no, that's not that's 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.520 not what I'm saying. It's not that. That's not apples 0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:01.920 to apples. Okay, okay, no, watch this, Watch this, Watch this. 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:07.760 We're we're all um, We're all in um in the 0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:09.840 club together. We're sitting in the section. We're sitting there, 0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:13.800 We're sitting in the Let me get you another. Ah, 0:59:14.040 --> 0:59:15.640 we're all sitting in the club together. We're in the 0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:20.640 v I P section chilling. I'm not in everybody that 0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:24.160 with Brad. Okay, we're chilling. It's girls in the v 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:29.720 I P. All right, Um, a few people get up 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:32.880 walk away. Your left in the v I P with 0:59:33.000 --> 0:59:35.520 some woman that you don't know. Next thing you know, 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:37.600 the next day, oh you know if it's high and 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.840 you probably even spoke to the woman. Next thing you know, 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.800 this woman is accusing you of rape. This woman is killing. Okay, 0:59:43.480 --> 0:59:48.520 to prison for that, yeah, you can costly with the prison. 0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.480 You can go to prison for that. Come on, now, 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:53.760 all the person has to do, all the person has 0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.240 to do is accuse you of something, your guilty and 0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:59.800 to have proven innocent. In the United States, tell me this, 0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:08.400 Why didn't Mike Typson go to prison? That's not America 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:13.280 with a racist cordia in Indian Apples, Indiana, mind you, 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:18.720 the harm of the cool the founding territory. It is funny. Well, 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.840 like I said, like I said, you could you could 1:00:22.080 --> 1:00:24.880 white wash it anyway you want, if you if you said, 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:28.520 my thing is this year, if you're selling cocaine and 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:35.360 you get caught, you put yourself in that situations no, no, okay, nonute? 1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:38.160 Where the choice? Okay? Absolutely, okay, Now that's a choice 1:00:38.600 --> 1:00:43.000 that that that is a choice. But okay, you're selling 1:00:43.040 --> 1:00:45.680 the cocaine. You don't think something should happen. You don't 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:47.320 think you you don't think it's a chance that you 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.040 wait a minute, you don't think what you wait a minute. 1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:53.640 You don't think the chance. See, you don't think it's 1:00:53.640 --> 1:00:56.040 a chance you're gonna get caught. Absolutely, But if you 1:00:56.160 --> 1:00:58.760 but if you, but if you are walking to the store, 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:01.160 if you're walking too a in a store and you 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:03.760 see a friend that you know at the corner store 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:06.040 and you stop to speak to him, and the police 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:09.120 roll up and find some dope, they take him, and 1:01:09.280 --> 1:01:12.480 you did you put yourself in that position? Well, that 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:20.600 that's a that's a totally different for me. Personally, I 1:01:20.640 --> 1:01:23.720 want to take with me personally. Ain't gonna be walking 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:27.440 on the street and meet somebody that's got some dope. 1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:30.360 I don't know. I got some dope right now. No, 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:37.600 no dope right now. I don't know that family don't know. 1:01:39.120 --> 1:01:44.360 I don't know. Well, I don't know. The way I 1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:47.400 would the way I would explain myself and me personally, 1:01:47.400 --> 1:01:49.760 I got lawyers, I would say I had an interview, 1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:52.800 here's the email for me to be here. Will sit by, 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:54.880 like I said, I will plead my case. If I 1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:56.680 if I went to jail, if I went to jail, 1:01:56.680 --> 1:01:59.320 I would would I would go to No? No, no, no. 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:03.840 The thing is if I went to jail, if I 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:06.120 put to jail, I put myself in a situation that 1:02:06.240 --> 1:02:07.760 I shouldn't have been here. Did I know I should 1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:10.439 have been in that situation? No, but I was. Maybe 1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:13.160 I shouldn't be so many people that put themselves in 1:02:13.160 --> 1:02:15.320 those situations that you speak of, but there are so 1:02:15.360 --> 1:02:18.560 many people that don't and they end up in prison. 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:20.960 We end up getting that live snatch away. We see 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.880 the stories now my time, I put myself in a 1:02:24.960 --> 1:02:28.320 situation situation because you was going to the story, No, no, no, 1:02:28.680 --> 1:02:31.360 and you walked away from I put myself in a situation. 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.960 I'm saying, you put yourself in a situation where you 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:41.440 was at home chilling and somebody identified, somebody identified the 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:47.000 guy that robbed the store. If I like something, book 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:50.160 of Book of T can't prove what he was on 1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:54.160 that day, he got a problem. I don't think the 1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:56.880 Book of T is gonna have that problem. I just 1:02:56.920 --> 1:03:00.800 don't because Booker T in an international star. Know everybody 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:05.240 knows what books. Everybody no not if it's a big 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:11.200 no no, if it's a cold pay you listen. If 1:03:11.240 --> 1:03:14.160 there's some action now, if it's something it's a camera 1:03:14.280 --> 1:03:19.000 right there, that's gonna say. That's ain't putting myself. See, 1:03:19.720 --> 1:03:22.600 you're trying to cover for the crisp. I'm not. I'm not. 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:25.240 I'm not gonna cover for the criminal. What I'm saying, 1:03:25.880 --> 1:03:28.160 like I said, even with Mike Tyson, was it was 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.360 it he did it or not. I'm not saying whether 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:33.320 he did or not. I say Mike didn't do that, 1:03:33.360 --> 1:03:36.000 but I don't happen. He didn't have to do it. Okay, 1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:38.919 did o J Simpson do? Yeah? He did? He didn't. Okay, 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:42.240 did not you didn't even agree on that. You can't 1:03:42.240 --> 1:03:45.600 even agree on that. You know, if O J didn't 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:47.160 do it, If o J didn't do it, he was 1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:48.920 right on the side of Doe saying do it like this, 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:53.280 don't do it. He did it. No a white woman, 1:03:53.440 --> 1:03:57.640 white woman. Y'all can't even agree if O J didn't 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:04.400 know the guy who killed this other guy looked like 1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:07.480 scar face. Now suppose the police when it came to 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:12.480 my house. Okay, no, no, this is my point. You 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:15.440 want a celebrity and you get accused of murder, and 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:19.560 you get accused of murder and your celebrity, you probably 1:04:19.600 --> 1:04:24.640 did it because they will. They will falsely identify people 1:04:24.640 --> 1:04:29.960 all the time, common people. But they got it right 1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:33.960 because they know they'll get well. Putting yourself in a situation, Okay, 1:04:34.000 --> 1:04:36.480 why did um um um um O J. Simpson get 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:42.480 off because he had That's not why. No, no, the 1:04:42.480 --> 1:04:46.320 reason that no, no, no, that's not why. The reason 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:51.200 why O J. Simpson got off is because that's not 1:04:51.400 --> 1:04:54.680 your money. Well, if you if you let me explain 1:04:54.720 --> 1:04:57.640 my point the reason why, just like what we're talking 1:04:57.680 --> 1:05:01.120 about right here, Putting yourself in the situation, if you 1:05:01.160 --> 1:05:05.200 put yourself in the situations can happen. Okay. Now my 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:07.960 thing is this, you got you got, you gotta, you 1:05:07.960 --> 1:05:15.600 gotta Okay, you can take take you uh, your medicine, medicine, 1:05:15.600 --> 1:05:25.960 your hot medicine. No, no, what I'm saying was O J. Simpson. 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:28.880 This is just my theory. O J. Simpson got off 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:30.959 just when we're talking about right here, person putting himself 1:05:31.000 --> 1:05:33.480 in the situation. Was when you put yourself in the situation, 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:35.720 some ship could happened. O J. Simpson. That you can't 1:05:35.720 --> 1:05:41.040 put itself in a sky. Okay, let me finish my point. 1:05:41.200 --> 1:05:44.040 O J. Simpson. Got a cop on on that's working 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:47.680 on this case, that that found the glove. Okay, wait 1:05:47.720 --> 1:05:49.760 a minute. That okay, that that said all kind of 1:05:49.800 --> 1:05:52.360 raised the ship on taple. Okay. He put himself in 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:55.320 a position to get on stand to get uh totally 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:57.400 made it look like a fool. And that's the reason 1:05:57.440 --> 1:06:00.520 why O J. Simpson. If that one cop, if that 1:06:00.640 --> 1:06:03.720 one cop would have been alleviated from this whole thing. 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:05.480 O J. Simpson would have been the prison for the 1:06:05.480 --> 1:06:08.880 rest of his life. But for two that's the only reason. 1:06:08.960 --> 1:06:10.720 Two words. Let me tell you, let me tell you. 1:06:10.800 --> 1:06:14.600 If anyone looks at that case and see a cop 1:06:14.680 --> 1:06:17.480 come understand and say I plead the Fifth Amendment because 1:06:17.640 --> 1:06:20.600 it may incriminate me. If the cases shouldn't, the case 1:06:20.600 --> 1:06:23.600 should have been dismissed. From that point, he didn't two words. 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:27.040 It was a lot of two words words. Was that 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:29.800 Johnny Cochran, No, man, that ain't it. That ain't need 1:06:29.840 --> 1:06:32.680 at all. If that cop wouldn't have been understand, I'm 1:06:32.720 --> 1:06:34.320 gonna tell you right now, O Jay Simpson would have 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:40.120 been in prison no matter I'm any lawyers. He yet 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:42.800 that's the only thing that that had on the floor 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:49.080 had blood from one side of the sock to the other. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:57.200 did oj do it? Okay? Do it? Can't even that 1:06:58.640 --> 1:07:02.520 whatever it ain't got nothing? Then against bro, you ain't 1:07:02.520 --> 1:07:05.560 got nothing? Then, Willie, how are you think he did? 1:07:05.720 --> 1:07:09.280 This is why I think he did it? Okay, First 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:12.560 and foremost, it's like book T said, no, no, no, 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:16.160 don't you by now because I know what I'm saying. 1:07:16.600 --> 1:07:21.720 I'm speaking about celebrity. I'm speaking about celebrity. For you 1:07:21.760 --> 1:07:24.880 to be a celebrity and you have a limousine driver 1:07:25.080 --> 1:07:27.360 on the way sitting at your house waiting on you 1:07:27.360 --> 1:07:29.480 when you're supposed to roll out. We all know that. 1:07:29.480 --> 1:07:31.680 When the limo you're on the clock and you got 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:34.400 to go to the airport, you forty five minutes late 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:37.200 to get inside of that limo. You forty five minutes 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.520 when you got to go to the airport. You gotta 1:07:40.520 --> 1:07:43.280 be on you gotta be you gotta be at the airport. 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:47.000 Nobody knows where you are for forty five minutes. Nobody, 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:56.720 nobody knows. Think, think about right now, you got nine 1:07:57.600 --> 1:07:59.840 You can go to the airport thirty minutes before you 1:07:59.840 --> 1:08:01.280 have to get on the plane and get right on 1:08:01.320 --> 1:08:03.160 that something that's true. But he got a cut on 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:06.320 his hand, right, she had to cut on No, now 1:08:06.400 --> 1:08:11.280 he had to cut on his hand. Somebody bandits on 1:08:11.320 --> 1:08:13.560 the flight back, not on the way going. Okay, so 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:15.240 he had to cut on his on the way back. 1:08:15.360 --> 1:08:20.000 Then he in the car. Okay, okay, with you, my wife, 1:08:20.400 --> 1:08:25.960 my wife, you just got killed. Okay, let's say you Okay, okay, 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:30.720 So let's say you. Let's say let's say you was 1:08:30.760 --> 1:08:34.240 accused of killing someone. Right, you're accused of killing someone? 1:08:34.880 --> 1:08:38.520 What you with a red A normal person get inside 1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:41.920 of a vehicle and threatened and take the police on 1:08:41.960 --> 1:08:45.240 a low speed chase and threatened to kill himself. If 1:08:45.240 --> 1:08:49.240 he's in that is not something that I'm destract And 1:08:49.240 --> 1:08:53.080 we're talking, we're talking about you having They haven't even 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:55.160 said they're gonna lock you up. At this point, you're 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:57.200 just a person that they want to question. I just 1:08:57.200 --> 1:09:02.160 want to and you're riding around think that they already 1:09:02.360 --> 1:09:04.960 they already had um took o J right now. Wo 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:08.880 They talked o J when he came, when he came 1:09:08.920 --> 1:09:14.920 back from that point right there, Oh Jay was scared, 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.600 o JA. So that that's what I'm just Oh J 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:20.120 was o J was scared. Say, man, you know they 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:22.240 called you know, they called you the lam and you're 1:09:22.240 --> 1:09:27.880 getting the jail man. They go put the meeting and 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.839 he was hiding up. You know what. You know what 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:35.120 My thing is this if I was if you know, 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:37.760 if I was on the jury, I can tell you 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:39.599 this here. If it wasn't for Mark Ferman, I would 1:09:39.600 --> 1:09:41.439 have convicted him. Do I think O J did it? 1:09:41.960 --> 1:09:43.800 O Jay had something to do with it. I feel 1:09:43.800 --> 1:09:46.439 like it's almost impossible. But there's no fucking way. Like 1:09:46.960 --> 1:09:48.920 I never called me for jury duty. But but the 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:51.000 thing is, I don't never. I don't know because the 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:54.880 black man gonna always be innocent to me, bro only 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.880 and you know your family, unless he did unless he 1:09:57.960 --> 1:10:02.000 messed with an old lady. Uh uh, killed the kid 1:10:02.160 --> 1:10:04.680 or raped somebody. Uh you know what I mean. Like, 1:10:05.080 --> 1:10:07.240 but but he get caught with with a pound of weed. 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:09.320 It's the ship man. It wasn't him. Well we weren't 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:14.920 talking about talking about exactly, but this black guy. But 1:10:15.000 --> 1:10:18.519 this black guy, excuse me, this black guy's being accused 1:10:18.520 --> 1:10:22.320 of killing this white woman. And clearly the guy, uh 1:10:22.800 --> 1:10:27.080 Goldberg or whatever the name over there right, you're Goldman 1:10:27.360 --> 1:10:29.840 and Goldman, Oh the mob some money man like you 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:35.519 said gold Like, what what case? Y'all talking about? What 1:10:35.600 --> 1:10:42.520 case he talking about? He's talking about the case? Yeah? 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:46.240 O J. Simpson, you know what O J said? He 1:10:46.280 --> 1:10:49.240 was guilty himself. How about that? I ain't gonna say. 1:10:49.640 --> 1:10:53.280 He said, you know, is it a book not that 1:10:53.560 --> 1:10:55.559 that you go watch this? I know he said, if 1:10:55.640 --> 1:10:58.640 I did, I know that, if you had, I know 1:10:58.720 --> 1:11:00.880 you would never do something like this. But let's say 1:11:01.240 --> 1:11:06.200 if you did, huh was accused of killing your wife 1:11:06.200 --> 1:11:11.120 and you went to trial for double homicide. You it 1:11:11.240 --> 1:11:14.719 was a trial that was exhausting and embarrassed your family, 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:20.200 just tarnished your relationship. What you would you write a 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:24.960 book say if well, like I said, if I had 1:11:25.080 --> 1:11:31.400 done it, I don't know if an arrogant killer, you 1:11:31.439 --> 1:11:33.000 know what you know, I don't know if O J 1:11:33.160 --> 1:11:39.880 did it or not. But he's getting charged. My show 1:11:40.680 --> 1:11:44.840 had it. Let's get OJ on the show. Come on 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:47.040 the show man and explain yourself. You know what I'm 1:11:47.040 --> 1:11:48.320 gonna tell you right now. If you get with him, 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:50.240 I'm sure we'll hold you out there right now doing 1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:51.720 the thing. He got his I think he's got his 1:11:51.800 --> 1:11:55.760 own podcast as well. Yeah, he's doing it yet I'll 1:11:55.800 --> 1:11:59.439 do yours. He's definitely on Twitter, Yeah, I mean on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:02.680 he's on to you out here myself. Ain't put you 1:12:02.720 --> 1:12:09.360 in a five star Willie will So, Jay Simpson, I mean, 1:12:09.600 --> 1:12:12.840 I mean he's a killer, but he's he's still still 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:14.640 you know what the thing is that gotta be you 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:16.880 got it, You got it, gotta be in a man 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:31.160 we've done right, Dn't kill that dude. Man. You're in 1:12:31.200 --> 1:12:36.000 the Hall of Fame twice, two times as a solo 1:12:36.320 --> 1:12:40.800 single and your single and and tag team do. What's 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:45.800 your brother? How many people has that? I think four 1:12:45.840 --> 1:12:49.320 people people in the history of wrestling. Yeah, yeah, we're 1:12:49.360 --> 1:12:53.479 like the four husman. Yeah, wrestling. So which came first? Uh, 1:12:53.680 --> 1:12:58.040 not singles saying tag in twenty nineteen, Nona, um doing 1:12:58.040 --> 1:13:01.280 it when my brother was one of one thing that 1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:04.720 I cherished that nine years being on the road with 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:08.599 my brother having my back, uh, knowing that I could 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:10.719 pretty much do whatever I needed to do just because 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:13.439 I had somebody watching me that was gonna protect me 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:17.200 at the same time. And yeah, yeah, yeah, and um, 1:13:17.200 --> 1:13:19.080 I always looked up to my brother as far as 1:13:19.120 --> 1:13:22.759 being like a like a superhero. But at the tag team, 1:13:22.840 --> 1:13:26.799 we uh we set the bar um as far as 1:13:27.280 --> 1:13:30.920 going out there and representing letting a lot of you know, 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:33.800 young kids say man, Harlan he is you know that's 1:13:33.800 --> 1:13:39.160 the stuff right there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, singles running 1:13:39.200 --> 1:13:41.320 was awesome too. Never in a million years thought I 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:44.400 would be a singles wrestler. Um, not something I ever 1:13:44.520 --> 1:13:48.000 thought about doing. Into it happened. Um, But um, I 1:13:48.120 --> 1:13:50.640 was always say, preparation is the only luck you're ever 1:13:50.640 --> 1:13:52.880 gonna have. You're not bad, You're gonna You're definitely gonna 1:13:52.880 --> 1:14:05.840 fail that that's trademarked. Yeah, but it's always been my 1:14:05.880 --> 1:14:09.200 thing right there, Man, everything that I've wanted to do 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:11.280 in that business, I want to be the best at 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:13.360 it as well as I want my name the ring, 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:15.639 you know, with the guys like Rick Flair and all 1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:18.200 of those top you know, flight wrestlers and I and 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:20.680 there again making it to the Hall of Fame and 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:24.080 pretty much put a stamp on you know, I did it, 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:27.519 you know, um at a certain level, even though sometimes 1:14:27.520 --> 1:14:29.320 I mean not, you know, just like a lot of 1:14:29.560 --> 1:14:32.320 a lot of uh, you know blacks who you know, 1:14:33.040 --> 1:14:35.800 broke barriers, you know, such as Doug Williams, you know 1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:37.439 what I mean, they don't get talked about as much 1:14:37.479 --> 1:14:41.840 as they should. But um, you know, we know how 1:14:41.880 --> 1:14:44.680 good Doug was and and when he put put us 1:14:44.720 --> 1:14:47.200 on the map as far as a black quarterback going 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:49.200 out there and being able to do it just as 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:52.160 big as anybody that ever, you know, through that ball. 1:14:52.439 --> 1:14:55.000 That's what I thought about, Uh, you know, Doug Williams 1:14:55.000 --> 1:14:57.320 of the world. You know that's true. Man, Doug don't 1:14:57.320 --> 1:15:00.160 get nowhere near the type of credit he should. I mean, 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:02.840 it was such a stigma for black quarterbacks in the 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:07.559 NFL before Man and then you see this influx of 1:15:07.800 --> 1:15:12.120 uh players Huh, I mean quarterbacks coming in, black quarterbacks 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:14.400 coming in out. He don't get the credit that he's 1:15:14.520 --> 1:15:17.320 I mean, Doug Williams put us on the map. Um 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:22.240 was was black quarterbacks Doug Williams, not that I know of, 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:25.920 I don't think so. Yeah, that could be wrong, but yeah, 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:28.680 are you? Are you you have a relationship with any 1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:31.000 of these other wrestlers that that we may know of, 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:35.160 like the you know, wrestling has never been some something 1:15:35.320 --> 1:15:37.720 for me that came up trying to make a lot 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:41.760 of friends. Uh. I just never thought I could make 1:15:41.800 --> 1:15:44.479 it to the next level having a lot of friends. Uh. 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:47.760 You gotta walk a certain way when you do just 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:53.080 about everything. Um, your reputation follows you all the way 1:15:53.120 --> 1:15:56.000 to the end in this in this business, in the 1:15:56.000 --> 1:15:59.320 wrestling business. Um. So for me, I was always you know, 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:04.599 thinking about being and focus um my respect, you know level. 1:16:05.080 --> 1:16:08.320 I had to keep that intact more than anything, keeping 1:16:08.320 --> 1:16:12.599 everything from a business perspective, that right, there was something 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:16.240 I thought about, uh, more than anything. Um. Just like say, 1:16:16.280 --> 1:16:18.080 for instance, my peers never saw me in a pair 1:16:18.080 --> 1:16:21.880 of jeans throughout my wrestling career. You know, I never 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:27.240 saw me and I respect myself more than neighbors. You know, 1:16:27.280 --> 1:16:30.200 I had to respect myself even more so then than 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:31.920 they did in order to get it, you know what 1:16:31.960 --> 1:16:34.320 I mean. So I put myself on it on a pedestal. 1:16:34.600 --> 1:16:38.360 So I made sure used a certain way all the time. UM. 1:16:38.400 --> 1:16:40.200 I never just say, for instance, you know we're sitting 1:16:40.200 --> 1:16:43.320 here talking about putting yourself in a situation, UM for 1:16:43.400 --> 1:16:47.360 something to happen to you. UM just say, for instance, UM, 1:16:47.560 --> 1:16:49.840 to get to the next level, everything had to be 1:16:50.320 --> 1:16:53.920 you know, done a certain way. Now, not not saying 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:57.040 that I haven't done these things or not, um, but 1:16:57.600 --> 1:17:00.280 there again, put yourself in a situation for something to happen, 1:17:00.640 --> 1:17:03.439 UM to you. Now, a lot of the guys respect 1:17:03.479 --> 1:17:06.640 me at a very very high level. Okay, we're on 1:17:06.680 --> 1:17:09.120 the road. A lot of the boys know my wife. 1:17:10.080 --> 1:17:12.000 A lot of them like her. They might like her 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:14.800 more than they like me. Okay, but we're out on 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:16.680 the road, we're in a different country. I come through 1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:19.559 the bar. I got a lovely little white woman with me. 1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.360 We go upstairs, whatnot go that? Come back down. I 1:17:22.439 --> 1:17:24.200 go to the bar, Now all of those guys that 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:26.879 see me, they may not say anything, but the respect 1:17:26.960 --> 1:17:29.439 level because they know my wife, some of them, that 1:17:29.520 --> 1:17:33.720 respect level is gonna way down. Okay. Now, I'm not 1:17:33.760 --> 1:17:36.160 saying that I haven't done that, But if I did 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:39.200 do it, you ain't gonna do it. You understand what 1:17:39.240 --> 1:17:42.200 I'm saying. I'm not gonna do it. No, no, no, 1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:44.920 that's not That's not me. But I'm just saying, you 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:47.519 put yourself in a situation. I never wanted my respect 1:17:47.920 --> 1:17:50.320 level to come down, So I never would put myself 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:52.760 in that position for those guys to see me, that 1:17:52.840 --> 1:17:57.160 respect me, that like my wife a lot more than myself. Um, 1:17:57.160 --> 1:17:59.920 for something like that to happen. Now, you know, I'm 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:03.040 not know why you know, Um, I'm not getting pushed 1:18:03.040 --> 1:18:05.479 like I was before. Man, Why they stopped pushing me? 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:06.920 You know what I mean? Man? Why they don't like 1:18:06.960 --> 1:18:09.040 me anymore? Now? You know? So it's you gotta know 1:18:09.040 --> 1:18:12.360 how to not put yourself in situations for ship to 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:14.519 happen to you. That was my point that I was 1:18:14.560 --> 1:18:17.400 trying to make earlier. Um. So for me, um, um, 1:18:17.600 --> 1:18:20.920 I'm I'm always about trying to think about how to 1:18:20.960 --> 1:18:23.880 get this business taken care of and um, you know 1:18:24.120 --> 1:18:29.240 succeed more than anything. Yeah. Well Mike Tyson did not, 1:18:28.800 --> 1:18:30.800 not that he did. But like I said, he put 1:18:30.880 --> 1:18:33.920 himself in a situation for something to happen. What was 1:18:34.000 --> 1:18:36.760 it he put himself in that situation or not? Um, 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:40.320 he was in that situation with that young girl. Um, 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.960 and the girl was eighteen years My wife, Um, we 1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:45.360 like I said, we married twenty years ago. My wife 1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:48.280 won the Miss Black America that year, and I could 1:18:48.280 --> 1:18:50.800 see my wife being naive in Mike tyson room and 1:18:50.920 --> 1:18:53.960 some ship happening. Okay, that's why I say that my 1:18:54.000 --> 1:18:57.479 wife won that contest that year. Okay, she was in 1:18:57.560 --> 1:19:00.240 all of the videos with Mike Tyson, you know what 1:19:00.240 --> 1:19:02.960 I mean. So that's why I say, you know, at 1:19:03.040 --> 1:19:07.040 eighteen years old, you are impressionable, man, especially with someone 1:19:07.160 --> 1:19:11.760 like Mike Tyson, the baddest man, the most powerful man 1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:19.000 on the planet. Chose you for my young kids and 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:24.760 like like brand and Bryce three and nineteen years old. Man, 1:19:25.439 --> 1:19:29.000 And from what I hear, like the girls and and 1:19:29.040 --> 1:19:31.840 even you Chris, like the girls do, there was something 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:34.160 awful man. So I can't give her a pass because 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.680 she's not giving her a pass. I'm not giving her. 1:19:36.960 --> 1:19:38.879 But I know how I was when I was eighteen. 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:41.920 I know how I was when I was eight I 1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:44.920 nave well, well, I know, I know I got it. 1:19:45.240 --> 1:19:52.960 I went to prison man, being naive, like I said, 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:58.800 naive because in stupid, because I didn't realize I could 1:19:58.800 --> 1:20:03.479 get five and ninety nine years in prison, putting myself 1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:07.280 in a situation, not knowing what the consequences could be 1:20:08.040 --> 1:20:14.000 if I got called. That's what I'm saying. I put 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:16.439 myself in that situation. Some sh it happened to me. 1:20:16.520 --> 1:20:19.080 I got lucky, God bless me. I'm gonna give you 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:21.599 five years, give your chance to make this ship up. 1:20:21.720 --> 1:20:23.519 But like I said, I still had to walk through 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:27.519 that five years. I couldn't say, well, no, I did it, um, 1:20:27.760 --> 1:20:30.519 And I got called, and you know, nothing happened happened 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.840 to me. I got called. I did it. Though I 1:20:33.320 --> 1:20:35.559 know I did it, I'm not, you know, running away 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:38.080 from it, whether Mike did it or not. Um. Like 1:20:38.120 --> 1:20:41.240 I said, being in that situation led him to go 1:20:41.479 --> 1:20:46.719 to prison and met Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson's a friend 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:52.680 of mine. I think this was a young black man. No, 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:55.599 I'm no, I'm serious. No. My thing is, like I said, 1:20:55.600 --> 1:20:56.880 Mike Tyson is a friend of mine. You think I 1:20:56.880 --> 1:20:59.680 wanted to go to prison, I don't know. I don't want. 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:01.599 I don't want to see no black man in prison. 1:21:02.240 --> 1:21:05.080 But like I said, we we as young, we as 1:21:05.120 --> 1:21:09.000 black men, put ourselves in situation for ship to happen 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:11.840 us all the time. And we have a choice. No 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:14.640 that we do have a choice. You know why. We 1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:16.360 gotta have it now, you know why we you know what? 1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:18.320 You know what. I can't sit there and say that 1:21:18.360 --> 1:21:20.799 because I could have ended up going right back to prison. 1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:23.840 I could have ended up going to prison. And no, no, no, 1:21:23.920 --> 1:21:25.840 and I could have ended up going right back to 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:29.120 prison if I, you know, kept putting myself in that situation. 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:32.320 What we caught a break. No, no, I didn't catch 1:21:32.320 --> 1:21:34.599 a break. We caught it, we caught a b No. No, 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:37.439 I put myself. I took myself out of that. But you, 1:21:37.680 --> 1:21:39.600 but you caused some breaks alone the way because you 1:21:39.600 --> 1:21:41.880 could have no, no, you could have went before that. 1:21:42.080 --> 1:21:44.840 No no, no, no, no no no. I couldn't go 1:21:44.840 --> 1:21:47.080 to prison before I could have gone to prison for that. 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:49.760 But but the thing is, I didn't put myself in 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:52.240 position to go to prison because I wouldn't not that 1:21:52.360 --> 1:21:54.799 stealing cars. I don't know what I'm saying. I wouldn't 1:21:54.800 --> 1:21:57.840 hang out an we was a kid. We agree with 1:21:57.880 --> 1:22:01.880 you that oftentimes, not just black people but black guys, 1:22:01.880 --> 1:22:04.920 but all people put themselves in certain situations that but 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:07.920 we have a unique experience in this country as black 1:22:07.960 --> 1:22:13.360 men and boys and often and we are targeted. So 1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:16.160 it's not just us putting ourselves in that position. Of course, 1:22:16.160 --> 1:22:18.759 if you put yourself of course, if you put yourself 1:22:18.760 --> 1:22:20.240 in that position, did you get there? Though? But how 1:22:20.280 --> 1:22:22.759 did you get that? Of course, if you put yourself 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.040 in that position, you know, you know, you know, it's 1:22:25.080 --> 1:22:28.400 your on your own. But let's let's make sure make 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:32.160 sure that we always acknowledge that we're being targeted and 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:34.559 we're being hunted, and that and that and that and 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:38.200 that and that and that is a that is a 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:43.559 large number. Understand this day. I preach that that gets 1:22:43.720 --> 1:22:48.400 targeted and ends up in keep this wicked racist you 1:22:48.400 --> 1:22:50.519 know what. That's all true. But I preach and teach 1:22:50.680 --> 1:22:58.160 us not putting ourselves in that situation, teach getting education 1:22:58.439 --> 1:23:01.160 before going out there is slaying and dry. Yeah, I do. 1:23:01.240 --> 1:23:03.800 That's I teach kids, you know. Yeah, if you just 1:23:03.920 --> 1:23:07.120 get that's that's that's that's some stuff that's gonna happen 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:09.840 to you. Ain't got me personally. I can't run towards 1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:13.479 you know. Uh. They all condone it because like I said, 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:15.479 my my, I got a son that's in jail right 1:23:15.520 --> 1:23:22.280 now and five years. No, No, that he did do 1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:25.040 He didn't have. No, he didn't have to because he 1:23:25.080 --> 1:23:27.600 got a dance he would have action. No, No, he 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:29.000 didn't have to. He didn't have to do it. But 1:23:29.040 --> 1:23:31.360 he did do it. And now he's he's he's paying 1:23:31.400 --> 1:23:33.439 the price war. And the thing is, no, I'm not 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:35.439 gonna sit here and say he didn't do He did 1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:38.240 do it. He fucking robbed somebody, He put a gun 1:23:38.280 --> 1:23:41.360 to somebody's head. Somebody could have got murdered, he could 1:23:41.520 --> 1:23:44.920 he could have been um facing the death penalty. And 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.160 I want young kids out there that's listening to this 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:50.680 ship to understand you put your fucking ass in that position, 1:23:50.920 --> 1:23:53.120 that's what's gonna happen to you. It ain't gonna be 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:56.360 no game once they get their hands on you, because no, no, 1:23:56.439 --> 1:23:59.080 wait a minute, becut, the system is rigg to once 1:23:59.160 --> 1:24:01.439 you get in there to keep you in there, because 1:24:01.760 --> 1:24:05.439 it's before you get in there, well it's okay, that okay, 1:24:05.880 --> 1:24:09.760 that isn't what that's that's totally missing the point, man, too, 1:24:10.040 --> 1:24:13.800 of this want you when you get it. The point 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:16.840 is when you get in there, you're in their hands. 1:24:17.000 --> 1:24:20.880 You're there, when you get in there that they're gonna 1:24:20.920 --> 1:24:23.080 make some money off of you, and it's it's gonna 1:24:23.080 --> 1:24:25.639 be their job to keep you in there as longest 1:24:25.680 --> 1:24:29.360 they possibly can. That's the that's the whole freaking playing 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:31.400 to the whole end of the end game. And my 1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:34.200 thing is to talk to young kids and young people 1:24:34.600 --> 1:24:37.280 are not even just young people, people in general, especially 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:40.320 black people. As for its putting ourselves in that situation. 1:24:40.439 --> 1:24:43.519 People always talk about these kids in Chicago. Okay, well 1:24:43.560 --> 1:24:46.000 they're banging they this and that and whatnot with thought 1:24:46.080 --> 1:24:48.040 some money at As for as just trying to get 1:24:48.160 --> 1:24:50.639 some education, My thing is this, if you're gang member, 1:24:51.280 --> 1:24:53.639 if you if you're the head of the freaking gang member, 1:24:54.160 --> 1:24:58.080 you you're the head of the game. You have a baby, 1:24:58.320 --> 1:25:01.439 all right, you think you really want that baby to 1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:03.559 grow up and be in the game. Now you wish 1:25:03.600 --> 1:25:06.240 that kid could grow off and do get a job 1:25:06.320 --> 1:25:08.479 and be a lawyer or a doctor whatever. But if 1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:11.920 you ain't got access to that, I got you, you 1:25:11.960 --> 1:25:13.639 know what I mean, You coming, you come, You're gonna 1:25:13.680 --> 1:25:16.160 be right down with me. That that's the system to 1:25:16.240 --> 1:25:19.280 keep us in that situation. That's why I'm talking about, 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:21.439 you know, trying to you know, rise up and come 1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:23.040 up out of that kind of ship. And if if 1:25:23.080 --> 1:25:24.920 we just keep talking about it to the point of 1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:27.720 where you know, it's it's that guy's problem. Is that 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:30.120 guy's problem is them against us. We ain't gonna never 1:25:30.320 --> 1:25:32.960 teach ourselves how to come up out of that ship. Because, 1:25:32.960 --> 1:25:36.320 like I said, I'm I'm the youngest of eight. I 1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:39.240 lost my mother when I was four fourteen years old. 1:25:39.280 --> 1:25:42.000 I lost my father when I was thirteen years old. 1:25:42.160 --> 1:25:44.120 I'm not supposed to be I'm supposed to be one 1:25:44.120 --> 1:25:47.719 of those statistics. I'm supposed to be there. I'm supposed 1:25:47.720 --> 1:25:50.000 to be here, you know, having this conversation right now, 1:25:50.160 --> 1:25:52.680 and will too, and and and a lot of people too. 1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:55.400 But here's the thing. What if you get an education, man, 1:25:55.400 --> 1:25:57.639 and you can fly, you can fly rocket ship, right, 1:25:58.120 --> 1:25:59.800 but they don't give you a job because of the 1:26:00.160 --> 1:26:02.120 your skin. You know why? You know what I say 1:26:02.160 --> 1:26:04.479 about that right there? I don't I don't have you 1:26:04.479 --> 1:26:07.680 know I can speak to that because I don't, you know, 1:26:08.120 --> 1:26:10.280 have any of that. But I figured out how to 1:26:10.360 --> 1:26:13.160 how to make it. No, no, I figured out how 1:26:13.200 --> 1:26:16.040 to make it in life. No one gave me anything 1:26:17.320 --> 1:26:21.120 that I gotta answer for that. Uh, stop sending our 1:26:21.200 --> 1:26:24.000 kids to school to get these degrees and go big. 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:27.360 These people who are pressing us for jobs, we gotta 1:26:27.400 --> 1:26:32.840 we gotta start turning out. And that's by not putting 1:26:32.840 --> 1:26:38.280 ourselves in exactly what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about. 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:42.240 We gotta start thinking about ownership instead of working. We 1:26:42.320 --> 1:26:45.439 gotta get off that working ship because that that that 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:47.680 is that is stopped working. I did I say that. 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:50.360 I say that because you find something you you got 1:26:50.400 --> 1:26:52.840 you know, we all we got talent, you know what 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:55.519 I mean. I remember, you know, those days back in 1:26:55.560 --> 1:26:59.040 the Ryanstone rank and watching you know, Willie d debut 1:26:59.200 --> 1:27:02.080 my Dick stage, and I'm like, that's the damn this song. 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:03.680 You know what I mean? Well, you know what I mean. 1:27:04.040 --> 1:27:07.759 Now I'm serious, but I'm like, man, this kid got talent, 1:27:08.000 --> 1:27:09.439 you know what I mean? And then I said you 1:27:09.439 --> 1:27:12.120 you you culture that you you you besides that, you 1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:15.160 really put time into that. And and the scar faces, 1:27:15.760 --> 1:27:17.719 you know, Willie did bush Be all the ghetto boys 1:27:17.760 --> 1:27:21.519 came out of it something that became worldwide. That's what 1:27:21.560 --> 1:27:23.599 this ship is about. Trying to figure out how we 1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:28.080 can create something. And if somebody's gonna see that, I 1:27:28.200 --> 1:27:30.160 want to be able to duplicate that. That's what I'm 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:32.760 trying to create more, no doubt, no doubt, and and 1:27:32.760 --> 1:27:34.920 and and and then I'm gonna say it again. Man, 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:38.240 we we we we we caught a break. We were blessed. 1:27:38.760 --> 1:27:42.600 We were blessed. But there's other people and that that 1:27:42.680 --> 1:27:45.400 come from the same walks of life that we have, 1:27:45.680 --> 1:27:50.400 that that are not in position to catch these breaks, 1:27:50.920 --> 1:27:52.439 you know what I mean. They end up in the 1:27:52.479 --> 1:27:55.719 penitentiary or they end up dead because there's no hope. 1:27:56.400 --> 1:27:58.760 That's the thing, right there a lot of times, you know, 1:27:58.880 --> 1:28:04.320 And and they hold myself with the well nobody explained 1:28:04.360 --> 1:28:08.760 and then that it can be done. Well, that's that's 1:28:08.800 --> 1:28:11.080 why I wrote a book from prisoner promise. Okay, I 1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:13.000 don't want to hide something, nigger, and you put it 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:15.080 in a book, but no, no, no, no, My thing is, 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:16.800 I ain't never wanted I want my story to be 1:28:16.840 --> 1:28:18.519 out there, so I ain't got nothing to hide. That's 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:23.240 why you speak of I'm saying I'm I'm a mom stuff. 1:28:23.920 --> 1:28:25.599 But I'm just saying that's the word of you don't 1:28:25.600 --> 1:28:27.360 want to try to hide something from me and put 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:29.960 it in a book. I'm a fine exactly my thing is. 1:28:30.040 --> 1:28:33.920 But that's what the rumor. Rumor has it that I 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:37.280 wrote a book. I wrote a book to tell my 1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:40.840 story about how I got in trouble, how like you 1:28:40.880 --> 1:28:43.919 just said a second ago, not even more than fifteen 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:47.360 seconds ago, about people giving up, all right and giving up. 1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:51.120 Ain't got no hope? Okay for me? My thing is, 1:28:52.479 --> 1:28:55.040 you got talent. I knew I had talent. I knew 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:58.160 I wasn't a kid that was well. I didn't see 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:00.599 what I wouldn't say. I knew I didn't eat myself 1:29:00.640 --> 1:29:03.360 as the kid on the corner too. I was thirty 1:29:03.439 --> 1:29:06.280 or forty years old, hanging out in the neighborhood, and 1:29:06.320 --> 1:29:08.679 I knew, I knew I wanted to do something more 1:29:08.680 --> 1:29:10.720 than that, all right? Did I know how I was 1:29:10.720 --> 1:29:14.880 gonna do it? Having no education, with dropping out of 1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:19.559 high school, Okay, going to prison years old, losing my 1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:24.080 parents and and literally having no like skills. Okay, what 1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:26.640 am I gonna do? How am I gonna make it? Um? 1:29:26.680 --> 1:29:29.439 I gotta figure it out, you know, going after going 1:29:29.479 --> 1:29:34.160 to prison, you talking about um, you know, going back 1:29:34.200 --> 1:29:36.800 and you know, backing over and over and over. UM. 1:29:36.800 --> 1:29:39.080 A lot of times, you know, guys come out of prison, 1:29:39.120 --> 1:29:40.800 young people coming out of prison, and they feel like 1:29:40.840 --> 1:29:44.960 somebody or him something they really do, they really do. 1:29:45.320 --> 1:29:47.880 They're the same ones that that go into prison feeling 1:29:47.880 --> 1:29:50.040 like somebody. Well that that's true too. But for me 1:29:50.120 --> 1:29:52.000 when I came out, the first thing I felt like 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:53.800 I had to do was I had to get people 1:29:53.800 --> 1:29:55.920 to trust me again. Then you go, what don't nobody 1:29:56.000 --> 1:30:01.479 trust me? But the thing is, no one should trust you, Okay, 1:30:01.520 --> 1:30:09.120 So I mean come on, come on serious. So I 1:30:07.800 --> 1:30:11.439 had to I had to fix that, run right there? No, 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:13.519 I know, I had to fix that. I had to 1:30:13.520 --> 1:30:15.559 get people to trust me again, to get people to 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:19.759 trust me, man, And and nobody should trust someone. Should 1:30:20.200 --> 1:30:23.640 you trust me? I'm a criminal watching someone trust me. 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:27.160 I don't trust you. Goddamn right, you ain't gonna trust 1:30:27.800 --> 1:30:31.799 So that that's one That's one of the biggest reasons 1:30:31.840 --> 1:30:34.160 why young people come out and can't figure out how 1:30:34.160 --> 1:30:36.519 to go forward, because they feel like, I can't get 1:30:36.520 --> 1:30:38.519 a job. But you don't know nobody want to give me. 1:30:38.640 --> 1:30:40.880 Ain't nobody gonna want to get You think someone wanted 1:30:40.920 --> 1:30:43.680 to give you a job? You think someone wanted to 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:46.360 do that. I asked for help when I when somebody 1:30:46.360 --> 1:30:47.960 put their hand out to help me, I took it 1:30:48.280 --> 1:30:50.560 and I my brother told me, I'm gonna help you 1:30:50.560 --> 1:30:53.160 get a job. He said, no matter what that job 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:57.080 he was don't get washing dishes, you know, sweeping floors, 1:30:57.080 --> 1:31:00.439 washing I don't get. He said, don't make me look bad, 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:02.759 all right, do the job to the best your ability 1:31:02.800 --> 1:31:04.680 to something else come along, he said, can you do 1:31:04.760 --> 1:31:08.479 that for me? I go, yeah. You know it was 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:10.519 as simple as that. I got my brother to trust me. 1:31:10.800 --> 1:31:12.920 God gave me my brother, you know, because you know 1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:15.360 I got fired from that job. You know that my 1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:17.720 brother got me, which was a security god job out 1:31:17.720 --> 1:31:20.040 of coming out of prison. They end up finding out 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:23.200 I had a record guy that my brother was working for. 1:31:24.400 --> 1:31:25.920 You know, my brother act man. You think you can 1:31:25.920 --> 1:31:28.200 give my brother a job? You know? The first thing 1:31:28.560 --> 1:31:36.240 the guy asked, my brother, can you trust him? M hm, Well, look, man, 1:31:36.280 --> 1:31:39.640 I don't know about Brad, but I trust you. I 1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:42.400 trust you, and I tell you what, Man, you have 1:31:42.560 --> 1:31:44.880 done a great job to put yourself in some good 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:48.599 positions and and and we we really appreciate everything that 1:31:48.640 --> 1:31:52.280 you have brought to the culture and everything that everything 1:31:52.280 --> 1:31:55.720 that you've done for wrestling. You're very You're very good dude. Man. 1:31:55.760 --> 1:31:59.719 I've always liked your spirit. You got a good spirit 1:31:59.800 --> 1:32:02.080 and the way you looked out for my boys and me. 1:32:02.360 --> 1:32:04.240 We wanted to come to the shows and all of that. 1:32:04.280 --> 1:32:08.439 Ship man, Bro, you second and no man freaking act bro. Bro, 1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:10.360 We're coming around and come back to man. So shoot, 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:12.280 let me know when y'all need some tickets. Man, I'm 1:32:12.320 --> 1:32:17.240 not even ever get it. I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming. 1:32:17.280 --> 1:32:19.799 Give me. We'll be back next month, I think. Uh, 1:32:19.840 --> 1:32:21.519 we got got a couple of shows. I'm gonna be 1:32:21.560 --> 1:32:23.439 one one year and one of San Antonio and one 1:32:23.520 --> 1:32:27.280 of Dollars. So we're kicking off actually a lot, actually 1:32:27.520 --> 1:32:33.200 a live tour actually kicks off in Houston. So what 1:32:33.360 --> 1:32:35.400 y'are doing it? The thing? Um, it's gonna be too 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:39.720 too damned the promoter it is. I'm just gonna be 1:32:39.840 --> 1:32:41.680 there talking, just like you know you're gonna be that 1:32:41.840 --> 1:32:46.760 talking to give you my money and you slam. Bro, 1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:49.800 I'm done, man, ever tied. Man, I'm just tied body 1:32:49.840 --> 1:32:52.160 to that part of my life. But I tell you what, man, uh, 1:32:52.960 --> 1:32:54.439 it's been a help and run man, it's been a 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:56.160 help of run. I appreciate you guys for having me 1:32:56.240 --> 1:32:59.800 in man, because I'm all about speaking word. Man. I 1:33:00.040 --> 1:33:02.360 like I hope they picked y'all off too much because 1:33:03.600 --> 1:33:07.240 my thing is, bro, you know what, we need more 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:09.320 of that man. We need more of that man because 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:12.439 our young people out there these days, Man, a lot 1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:15.559 of them they don't have anyone that they could look 1:33:15.640 --> 1:33:18.519 to that's walked in that position that they can say, hey, man, 1:33:18.680 --> 1:33:20.920 if if like Willie D, if Willie D could do it, 1:33:21.240 --> 1:33:22.479 you know I could do this too. You know, if 1:33:22.479 --> 1:33:24.320 to getto boys they came up out of the you 1:33:24.360 --> 1:33:26.360 know we could do this too. You know, book or 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.320 T did it. You know, I want to be like 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:30.519 For me, I had a kid in McGregor Park one 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:32.519 day and I went there and he recognized me to say, man, 1:33:32.520 --> 1:33:33.840 I want to be like you when I grew up 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:35.880 and I go out, I'm the kid that came from 1:33:35.920 --> 1:33:39.160 South No. No, and that right there, you know, being 1:33:39.200 --> 1:33:42.479 a role model. I took that very very serious. Um, 1:33:42.640 --> 1:33:44.680 and that's why I talked the way I do. UM, 1:33:44.760 --> 1:33:46.760 that's you know, like I said, that's why you know, 1:33:46.840 --> 1:33:48.960 it's the spirited conversation we had as far as our 1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:52.160 young people putting themselves in situations. I don't want. I don't. 1:33:52.240 --> 1:33:54.280 I don't. I don't. I don't ever want to see 1:33:54.640 --> 1:33:57.360 you know, some young kids get you know, shot, they 1:33:57.439 --> 1:33:59.679 call again. I don't never want to see another George 1:33:59.680 --> 1:34:03.200 Floyd incident. Did George Floyd put himself in in a situation? Um? 1:34:03.880 --> 1:34:05.519 You know, talk about that for a sake. I don't. 1:34:05.520 --> 1:34:07.639 I don't think George Floyd put himself in a situation. 1:34:07.760 --> 1:34:09.960 But I don't think. Um the way it was handled 1:34:10.040 --> 1:34:13.920 helped to me. You know what I mean with that 1:34:14.040 --> 1:34:19.200 have happened? Um, anyway, we don't know. Man, that man, No, 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:23.960 not what and that clastrophomics you know what, That's exactly 1:34:24.040 --> 1:34:26.599 what I'm talking said. That's exactly I agree. No, that's 1:34:26.640 --> 1:34:32.519 exactly what I'm talking about. Finding ourselves in situations like that. 1:34:32.600 --> 1:34:34.960 We gotta figure out how do we get ourselves out 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:37.960 the situations? Even if we find ourselves getting in a 1:34:38.040 --> 1:34:41.080 situation like that, how do we handle it in that situation? 1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:42.960 And why are we in such a russia take this 1:34:43.080 --> 1:34:45.880 guy to jail over a bill that that made you know, 1:34:47.560 --> 1:34:49.040 it didn't seem like it was in the fist that 1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:53.160 should have you know, it didn't merit the man. No, 1:34:53.560 --> 1:34:56.720 it's not something to degree disagree old, it's something. That's 1:34:56.800 --> 1:34:59.320 what I'm saying is we gotta figure out how do 1:34:59.439 --> 1:35:02.200 we not get ourselves a situation like that? And if 1:35:02.240 --> 1:35:04.400 we do find ourselves a situation like that, how do 1:35:04.479 --> 1:35:07.840 we get out of them? You know, what's what's what's? No? No, 1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:12.280 what's the what's the answer? The answer is well, no, no, no, no. Specifically, 1:35:12.400 --> 1:35:16.960 what he's asking is, what's the answer to George Floyd's 1:35:17.439 --> 1:35:21.040 situation if once the police rolls up right and no, nothing, 1:35:21.120 --> 1:35:23.880 it's just as well as this, what's the answer for 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:26.360 us to for for George Floyd to still be here 1:35:26.520 --> 1:35:28.360 right now? Let's not let's not talk about what the 1:35:28.400 --> 1:35:32.400 cop did. No, not, that's not what I'm saying. No, 1:35:32.600 --> 1:35:35.360 that's not what I'm said. Stop it that where's that 1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:42.519 twenty bill? That Okay, let's put the market on the No. 1:35:44.840 --> 1:35:48.200 I understand that. But what I'm saying is we as 1:35:48.280 --> 1:35:51.240 black people, we find ourselves in these situations a whole 1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:56.000 lot pers That's true, that's true. But I'm trying to 1:35:56.080 --> 1:35:58.120 figure out. I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out 1:35:58.160 --> 1:36:01.080 the answer to how do we how how do we 1:36:01.200 --> 1:36:04.840 figure out? You know, someone like George Floyd, you know, 1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:11.400 him dying and him still being alive. Well, I think 1:36:11.479 --> 1:36:14.519 that I think I think that the honest answer is 1:36:14.880 --> 1:36:18.479 once the police rolled up, comply period. Well that that 1:36:18.720 --> 1:36:23.559 is That's that's the right. Look man, look in now 1:36:23.640 --> 1:36:25.559 here's why I say. You're not gonna beat the police 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:27.960 on the streets. You cannot. It's their streets. I don't 1:36:27.960 --> 1:36:30.960 give them what the game members say. They're the biggest game. Okay, 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:33.160 you can't beat the police in the streets. You fight 1:36:33.240 --> 1:36:35.439 the police in the court. You know they're gonna win 1:36:35.520 --> 1:36:39.240 in the streets every time. So the thing the thing 1:36:39.520 --> 1:36:42.120 to do is when they pull up and they do 1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:43.760 what they do, you know you already know how they 1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:47.160 feel about you. You already know who they are. You 1:36:47.439 --> 1:36:50.519 know that M O so you know, the culture. So 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:54.680 when they pull up, hey man, just comply. And the 1:36:54.720 --> 1:36:56.599 thing is what you want to do, what you wanna 1:36:56.640 --> 1:36:58.920 do is you want to get through that situation. I 1:36:58.960 --> 1:37:02.439 always say that anytime you're dealing with the police, Like, 1:37:02.600 --> 1:37:04.799 first of all, you want minimal contact with the police. 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:07.559 But if you have to come in contact with the police, 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:11.200 then your job is to get them out of your 1:37:11.280 --> 1:37:14.519 presence as soon as possible. You just want them or 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:17.560 your presence as soon as. The longer they stay around you, 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:22.760 the greater chance you have of being violated. Yeah, yeah, 1:37:22.840 --> 1:37:25.559 that's that's definitely true. That's definitely true. Now that's why 1:37:25.760 --> 1:37:29.720 you know, I'm you know, me personally, shouldn't have happened. No, 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:36.680 it shouldn't have happened. Uh take you know, get situations 1:37:36.720 --> 1:37:39.760 like that to where we walk away from those situations 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:42.479 opposed to you know, getting the bullet of someone yelling 1:37:42.560 --> 1:37:46.320 on this or something like that. We confiscate bill and 1:37:46.439 --> 1:37:48.840 let the man walk. It wasn't like he had ten 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:52.120 thousand of him. He had one dollar bill. That we 1:37:52.200 --> 1:37:55.479 don't know was if it was taking not taking mark 1:37:55.760 --> 1:37:57.639 mark on and look at it. Take the twenty dollar 1:37:57.760 --> 1:38:00.200 bill and put it in the evidence and told man 1:38:00.240 --> 1:38:02.120 could have still been a lot of the day they 1:38:02.160 --> 1:38:04.719 hadn't been a white guy. That's exactly what they would 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:08.280 have been, what a situation it would have been hadn't 1:38:08.280 --> 1:38:10.800 been a black cop. He wouldn't have been dead exactly. 1:38:11.040 --> 1:38:13.400 That's that's that's probably true too. Then my thing is, 1:38:13.479 --> 1:38:16.720 like I said, like you said, complying, I totally understand that. 1:38:16.840 --> 1:38:19.040 I understand him being class to phogic because I'm class 1:38:19.080 --> 1:38:21.080 to phobic. I understand that too. And that's not a 1:38:21.160 --> 1:38:23.680 lot of ship, a little bit of car cramped up, 1:38:25.760 --> 1:38:27.400 it's a lot went on, but it's no but but 1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:30.799 he's that's that's a person. That's a person that should 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:34.000 you still be a should still be alive. And on 1:38:34.120 --> 1:38:38.000 another just that, and on another note, if you have 1:38:38.360 --> 1:38:42.479 those type of people policing our communities in our areas 1:38:42.560 --> 1:38:46.640 that have no no feelings or nothing towards us, no 1:38:46.760 --> 1:38:49.880 compassion at all towards us, they shouldn't even be well, 1:38:49.920 --> 1:38:52.920 they shouldn't be on the force. They shouldn't be I 1:38:52.960 --> 1:38:56.000 got a problem, shouldn't be policing there? Well, I got 1:38:56.120 --> 1:38:59.280 a problem. No, no, no, they shouldn't be policing period 1:38:59.360 --> 1:39:01.960 because because when we when we come outside of our 1:39:02.080 --> 1:39:05.599 communities are predominantly black communities, we're gonna face them, and said, 1:39:05.640 --> 1:39:07.560 they'll be sitting back just waiting at the you know, 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:09.960 at the line, wait for you to cross that line. 1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:13.600 As soon as you crossed that line. But it's a 1:39:13.680 --> 1:39:16.600 it's a need to be. It's the same. It's the 1:39:16.680 --> 1:39:21.040 same that the cops are for. With the cops are 1:39:21.080 --> 1:39:27.280 for slave patrol. Okay, I thought something different. I thought, no, 1:39:27.479 --> 1:39:30.559 not the police. The one thing that I ate here 1:39:30.880 --> 1:39:35.080 more than anything with with the you know, the police. 1:39:35.120 --> 1:39:38.200 Stuff that happened with the police is you know the 1:39:38.280 --> 1:39:40.360 higher ups, you know, the people in government, you know, 1:39:40.920 --> 1:39:42.920 even the people on the force. They say, you know, 1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:46.160 they used the word bad apples, and then I hate 1:39:46.479 --> 1:39:49.320 that term bad apples. We got a few bad apples. 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:53.439 And from what I've always known about the term bad apples, 1:39:53.520 --> 1:39:56.360 one one was small on the whole. Butch wasn't bad 1:39:56.400 --> 1:39:59.000 apples small the whole. But that ain't what Michael Jackson said, 1:39:59.680 --> 1:40:05.000 Jesson one that apple don't father whole bunch. He's alive. 1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:09.320 His hands was flying too. But like I said, and 1:40:09.400 --> 1:40:11.400 that's what I when they when they say stuff like that, 1:40:11.600 --> 1:40:14.120 you know, we got a few bad apples. Yeah. Yeah, 1:40:14.160 --> 1:40:18.479 polices should be uh dealt with um on a on 1:40:18.560 --> 1:40:21.120 a broad basis, because that that is a big problem. 1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:23.800 It is a it is a lot of racism in 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:26.960 certain police um. And and and if they is and 1:40:27.000 --> 1:40:28.559 then and they're not afraid to show it a lot 1:40:28.640 --> 1:40:32.439 of times, especially nowadays. And and I'm scared because I 1:40:32.560 --> 1:40:35.000 got ten year old kids, you know what I mean. 1:40:37.160 --> 1:40:40.000 Look at the Senate, y'all. Look at the US Senate 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:46.120 for follow races. Uh uh police, Well, that's that's that's 1:40:46.200 --> 1:40:49.320 that's that's a big part of the problems, part of 1:40:49.320 --> 1:40:51.280 the problem even during slavery, I mean, you know, the 1:40:51.600 --> 1:40:56.439 whole half. Well, that's why it was so hard to 1:40:56.479 --> 1:40:58.160 get rid of slavery. You know a lot of people 1:40:58.240 --> 1:41:01.320 just when they think about slavery, the emancipation, all that stuff, 1:41:01.320 --> 1:41:03.960 they only focus on Well, well, my thing is always 1:41:04.080 --> 1:41:08.400 my thing is you know, I don't understand it's for 1:41:08.560 --> 1:41:11.720 a lot of politics because the one thing that that 1:41:11.840 --> 1:41:14.080 really confuses me. And you know, I talked to a 1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:16.479 lot of my my, my, my white friends about it, 1:41:16.880 --> 1:41:21.800 um as well, and I say, you know, Democrats, Republicans, um. 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:25.760 You look at the makeup of them. Um, it's all 1:41:25.800 --> 1:41:28.200 white on this side, and it's all white on this side, 1:41:28.520 --> 1:41:31.320 and they and they can't agree with anything. Okay, Now, 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:34.400 just imagine if it was all black on this side 1:41:34.439 --> 1:41:36.640 and all white on this side, they really wouldn't be 1:41:36.840 --> 1:41:40.600 to agree with anything. What is the problem here? I 1:41:40.720 --> 1:41:45.160 can't get that. I can't get not tell me tell me, well, 1:41:45.360 --> 1:41:47.360 I tell me, tell me what you think, what you 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:49.720 think the problem? I tell you what I think. The 1:41:49.880 --> 1:41:54.920 problem is. I think that number one, that there's a 1:41:56.040 --> 1:41:59.000 there's a contest going on here, and I fight for 1:41:59.520 --> 1:42:02.800 supreme See, there's a fight for money and power. All 1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:05.040 of the seats that these people sit in. All of 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:08.519 these politicians, the seats whether it's there's there's only a 1:42:08.560 --> 1:42:12.040 certain amount of seats and either Democrats are gonna sit 1:42:12.080 --> 1:42:14.400 in that seat or Republican is gonna sit in that seat. 1:42:14.479 --> 1:42:17.320 Most of these seats are occupied by white males. And 1:42:17.760 --> 1:42:22.080 and so you have to think that yourself. It doesn't 1:42:22.080 --> 1:42:24.520 matter how they are. They got the same type of mentality, 1:42:24.560 --> 1:42:27.439 and that's the maintaining white supremacy and so and and 1:42:27.600 --> 1:42:30.240 that is the difference. So they're fighting for power, they're 1:42:30.280 --> 1:42:32.800 not they're not. They're not fighting They're fighting for money 1:42:32.840 --> 1:42:38.519 and power. They're not fighting for uh equality, Uh yeah, 1:42:38.560 --> 1:42:41.560 you know, no, no, absolutely not. They're not fighting for equality. 1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:45.680 They're not fighting for capasci compassion, they're not fighting for righteousness. 1:42:45.760 --> 1:42:49.240 They're fighting for money and power. And so that is 1:42:49.320 --> 1:42:53.640 why when the Republicans are acting like uncivilized mutts, uh 1:42:53.720 --> 1:42:56.599 you know, and and passing these these gym crow type 1:42:56.680 --> 1:42:59.960 laws and stuff, the Democrats are just sitting back doing nothing, 1:43:00.040 --> 1:43:02.240 and they act like they get mad about it, but 1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:04.960 they don't really do anything about it because they benefit 1:43:05.080 --> 1:43:07.320 from those same laws they had us. They share the 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:12.240 same mentality that the Republicans do. The Republicans are just 1:43:12.640 --> 1:43:15.720 crud type. They're all the same, they're same members of 1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:17.920 the same gang. They're all in the same gang. But 1:43:18.000 --> 1:43:21.960 the Republicans are more crud you know what a man 1:43:22.080 --> 1:43:26.800 want to be over the top. Democrats the Democrats. The Democrats. 1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:30.160 The Democrats are the ones who who fake and act 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:33.200 like that they're they're refined and you know, they're more 1:43:33.479 --> 1:43:37.439 that's a good theory. They just act they just act, 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:43.200 just act like they're compassionate and whatever. They're the same, 1:43:43.320 --> 1:43:46.840 they're they they're the same as that the Republicans. You 1:43:46.920 --> 1:43:49.720 gotta ask yourself, all of these years, with all of 1:43:49.800 --> 1:43:51.720 this bad stuff that's been going on in America, with 1:43:51.760 --> 1:43:54.800 all of this shooting and killing, the polis doing right now, 1:43:55.760 --> 1:44:01.519 where has the Democrats been happening? And then they got power? 1:44:01.920 --> 1:44:03.720 We voted them in, so they got the power that 1:44:03.840 --> 1:44:05.840 if they wanted to use it, they got power to 1:44:05.920 --> 1:44:09.200 do something. Yeah, but to do something. But where have 1:44:09.479 --> 1:44:11.639 they been? And even if you go all the way 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:16.880 back to before the public the parties are changed over, 1:44:18.439 --> 1:44:22.200 even when even when blacks were Republicans, you gotta ask yourself, 1:44:22.400 --> 1:44:25.240 where were those Republicans, you know at that time when 1:44:25.280 --> 1:44:29.400 the Democrats, well, you know, we're doing that. That's a 1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:31.320 great way to look at it. I mean, uh, And 1:44:31.439 --> 1:44:33.639 like I said, that's a that's a that's a that's 1:44:33.680 --> 1:44:37.240 a plausible theory um because you know, for me, I've 1:44:37.280 --> 1:44:39.960 always wondered, you know what I mean? You know, you 1:44:40.040 --> 1:44:42.240 got both sides and they're all the same, and no 1:44:42.320 --> 1:44:44.400 one can get alone, no one, no one can try 1:44:44.439 --> 1:44:48.200 to really get any works. They seems they seem like 1:44:48.280 --> 1:44:53.120 it's a rat races all the game the game. That's 1:44:53.160 --> 1:44:55.640 why nothing is getting done because they're all on the 1:44:55.760 --> 1:44:59.439 same page. You both is if you had all the 1:44:59.560 --> 1:45:02.560 power in the world, would you want to relinquish? No, 1:45:03.960 --> 1:45:05.439 That's why I tell people all the time. You know, 1:45:05.840 --> 1:45:08.759 when when when someone got a business and you're telling 1:45:08.840 --> 1:45:12.680 someone you know she's running the business unless you had it, 1:45:12.960 --> 1:45:15.160 you know, and then you got it? Did you got 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:18.639 out of power? You don't know how you would feel, um, 1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:20.880 and when you gotta get it given up. That that's 1:45:20.920 --> 1:45:23.360 just the way people are. And it's just the human nature. Um. 1:45:23.400 --> 1:45:25.360 And people most of them aren't gonna want to give 1:45:25.400 --> 1:45:27.960 it up. But but but did now, but then you 1:45:28.080 --> 1:45:30.120 got good people who don't mind giving it up. We're 1:45:30.160 --> 1:45:36.439 gonna be appreciate. Thank you, man, beat the odds. Man 1:45:37.080 --> 1:45:39.280 came out on top. Bless me, man, and we really 1:45:39.320 --> 1:45:41.960 appreciate you coming to appreciate it and spend some time 1:45:42.000 --> 1:45:45.280 with the ghetto boys. We are reloaded and we got 1:45:45.400 --> 1:45:47.960 booked it till on the show and we talked a 1:45:48.000 --> 1:45:50.080 lot of ship today and we really appreciate your time, 1:45:50.200 --> 1:45:55.000 no doubt, man. Appreciate your family. This episode was produced 1:45:55.040 --> 1:45:57.960 by Aching and brought to you by The Black Effect 1:45:58.120 --> 1:46:01.320 Podcast Network and I Heart Radio.