1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Get get no boys, it's back and rehoaded all in 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah and now deep throating. This is for 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: the streets, the reel, the railroaded, the disenfranchise, the truth, 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the scapegoating, and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: South East Coat g b B were keeping your head bobbing. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: It ain't no stopping. It wants to be trips by 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: and then the system is so corrupt they throw the 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Don't get it twisted on code and me and dancing 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: for no buttament biscuits. It's really d y'all scar facing 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: the building. Collectively we are the ghetto boys. Reloaded, reloaded 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: with another episode of information and instructions to help you 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. I guess today 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: then Conquerable Black Snow, Cold Kid, book up, Book of 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: Tears in the building. Y'all. Oh man, it was good, 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: but before you get started to be good, the real 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Black Snows pros Black Snow is actually a real poet 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: um here in the city of Houston. Man. Uh So 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: that's where, yeah, man, I was actually um giving Black 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: Snow props, you know, bringing them to the big screen 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: and just let them know that how much I appreciate it. 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: That one night, um that he gave me here downtown 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: in Houston. I'm and one of the hotels and my 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: wife and I would want a chance. I got a 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: chance to go check him out spoken word to night 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: and m I was reluctant. I was like, baby, h 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, but she's like, come on to school with me. 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: And uh, I got a chance to hear Black Snow 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: And he was so awesome. Man, he kind of opened 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: my eyes. He told a story about um m mrs 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Ms Jackson and the three boys, and um that that 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: story totally that just thinking that that was literally maybe 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten years ago and I still remember 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: that story, Um that he told me. It was just 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: so powerful. Yeah. You know book, Uh you know we 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: we we got we got history man. Yeah. Man. And 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: and like I like I said, Man, I had to 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: let you see my little boys grown okay, because when 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: they were little bitty boys, I had to go see book. 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Hey dad called book. Let's go see book called the 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: book hey man. Some special times. Yeah it was man. 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Book book was always one thousand man with me and 44 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: my children. Man, he never he was a superstar. I'm 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: talking about a big ass superstar bro like the first 46 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: and only the Tiger Conways, when you win a bell, No, no, 47 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: you're the only. He's the only. He's the only brother 48 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: in the UH wrestling UH world to win a bell. 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: I've been d he won the North American and Championship. Actually, 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: the one brother who stepped in before me was run Simmons. Yeah, 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: he put it down in deie c W before me. 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: But when I came along, it was a lot of 53 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: guys that pretty much, um you know, created the blueprint 54 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: for me, even though they didn't know they were doing it. 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: And so many of them did it in so many 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: different ways. So when I came in, I looked at 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: those guys and I tried to take a little piece 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: of every one of them and then add um something 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: to it to catleput me to the next level. Because 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: you know, we we black man, we were always looked 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: at differently, um than than the others. And so to 62 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: say it's it's safe to say that that that that's all. Uh. 63 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: It's a fair amount of racism going on in the 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: World Wrestling Federation too. I could say that it's a 65 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: fair amount of racism going around in the world everywhere, everywhere, 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: But I just a little small pocket, right, No, no, 67 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: let me let me. I'm being straight up with um. 68 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: And I say that because no matter what you get 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: to go, you're gonna get racism. Um. But in a 70 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: company like UM, it was in business like professional wrestling. 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: Just think about it, Um, You guys been the Ghetto 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: Boys and so many other young um black kids growing up. 73 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: We never thought about wrestling as our way out of it. 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: Never did that of us thought about wrestling, you know 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. That was a sport that white guys did. 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: That was a sport that you know, totally was you know, 77 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: off limits for as us making it to the next 78 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: level because we didn't see any of us at that 79 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: next level. We didn't what we saw. We saw Tiger 80 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Conaway Jr. We saw Rocky Johnson and Junkyard Dog. We 81 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: saw have access to that, we had Tony Atlas. Yeah. Yeah, 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: but it's for us being world champ, you know that, 83 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: for us being able to look at that. Guys say, man, 84 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: I want to do that, I want to be just 85 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: like that. I can't I can't say that because my 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: uncle rotten me and like he's a very cruel dude. 87 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Like I was a little smaller than him, I think 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: like five six years older than me, and he was 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the World Wrestling Federation champ and my grandmother's bead. He 90 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: the man, the man withou you jumping up in the 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: man man and he'll jump and drop kicked me off 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: the bed into the dough. But for me, I wanted 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: to be UM. I wanted to be different. I wanted 94 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: to be um considered world championship material, but more importantly, 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: but more importantly, I wanted to just be the best 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: guy in the locker room. You know, yeah, yeah, you 97 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: know so. But it was it was a hell of 98 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: a rude. Hey, I saw you with me and Jane 99 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: and you said the N word though, yeah you know 100 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: what that that that's been um that from the hood 101 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: man and being caught up and and and totally um 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: you know the moment because you know, everybody know what 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: I was from. You know, everybody knew, you know, I 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: had been to prison. Everybody know I didn't grow up 105 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: with us. And the thing is I talked to um 106 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: those guys because I'm in a business word, I'm the 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: one percent. Okay, I'm the one percent. Um. So for me, 108 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Um saying that, I mean just to put it out 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: that me saying the N word in front of that 110 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: was just funny. No no, no, no no. But but 111 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: but but I like this, no no, no, no no, 112 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: but I like to educate on it. Um. My peers 113 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: had never heard me say the N word before that 114 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: are after that because that's just not war. I took 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: my work. So I felt like when I did that 116 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: old television in front of the world, I let a 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: lot of young black kids that looked up to me. Now, 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: even though it became an anthem, but for me there again, 119 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I teach my young people. You know, you gotta know 120 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: how to change your levels. You know, just because you're 121 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: in the hood, UM, don't mean that you gotta act 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: like you in the hood all the time. So for me, Um, 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: that moment I had to catch myself. It definitely was 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: a moment that I educated it was sucking fire and 125 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: we know it was an accident, and we know what 126 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: was unintentional because you know you're standing up that would 127 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: means zene man you fire. Imagine though, if that was 128 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: to have been in I would have lost my job, 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: and UM, my whole you know, landscape of my career 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: would have changed, you know. So that's why I talk 131 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: about UM. That's why I try to educate from this 132 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: moment where because with young people, one mistake, one mistake, 133 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: that's all it take to change the whole landscape of 134 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: the way your life could have been. Yeah. Question, let 135 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: me ask a question. Have you ever accidentally heard somebody 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: real bad in the ring? Because that ship that y'all 137 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: doing is like a lot of people think that's bullshit, 138 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: But man, coming off the top rope with another body 139 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: on you, that's the real deal. And you're not a 140 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: little bitty do all that ship. No, I never heard 141 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: anybody in the ring. UM. Wrestling for me, UM, it's 142 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: always been an art. It's you know, it's a science. Um, 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: it's um too. You know, suspend your imagination for that 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: moment in time and make It's like going to see um, 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, a great magician, and you wonder how you 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: make the person levitate. Uh, he knows exactly what he's 147 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: doing and he's making you believe it. That's what I 148 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: tried to do. Kind of. No, But the thing is 149 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: also with wrestling for me from a perspective, unlike just say, 150 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: for the instance, a lot of you know, the young 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: guys you see coming up now, Um, if if I 152 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: whack you, you know, I'd apologize for it. Um. But 153 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: but it was it was like not ballet. You know, 154 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: it was as raw as I possibly can get when 155 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: I was in the ring, walking a very thin line 156 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: because you know, it is um simulating a fight. And 157 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: if you it's just like say, for instance, I tell 158 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: my students, you don't actually have to know how to 159 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: do it, but you have to look like you know 160 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: how to do it very well. That's too too hall 161 00:08:52,400 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: of fame rings. I want to be. Oh man, I 162 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: found my way through Neil South Park, Texas. I was 163 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: you know that the Stone Wrangler. You know what you 164 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: gots man, you to up in that and you know, 165 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: and for me it was easy. At what point did 166 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you move from U? What were playing leading? Right? Playing dealing? Yeah? 167 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: Plain dealing? Yeah yeah, plain dealing Louisiana. How does a 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: kid from plain Dealing Louisiana make it to the international stage? Hey, man, 169 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: my my mother, she still some some values in me, um, 170 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: and they stick with me to this day. Please thank you, yes, ma'am. No, sir, 171 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't call she anything to be nice to people. Um. 172 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: She brought us here when I was five years old, 173 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: and and that right there was the beginning, UM seeing 174 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: something totally different. Um as for his life. For my family, UM, 175 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest of eight and for myself and my 176 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: sister were the entertainment in the family. UM. You know, 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: we always wanted to be on soul trade. UM. So 178 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: for me, entertainment now entertainment was was great. There again, 179 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I talked to you guys, don't want to perform to 180 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: oh man, I wanted to be. I wanted to be. 181 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Louis. At one point I really 182 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be. But it was yeah, being being fascinated 183 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: man as a kid, Uh, growing up rocher Garty movies. UM, 184 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: getting getting lost in time with with stuff like that 185 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: because I wasn't a big I wouldn't. I wasn't big 186 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: on school or anything like that, just because of my situation, 187 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: UM that I was going through. I lost my mother 188 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: when I was young kid. I lost my father when 189 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: I was a young kid. So I was trying to 190 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: figure out, you know, you know, what was the next 191 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: meal going to come from? Opposed to you know what 192 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: it was, you know, like in English class next day, 193 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: How old were you when you lost your mother and father? 194 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: I lost my father when I was ten months and 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I lost my mother when I was thirteen. So so 196 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: my you know, sister, Now we was gonna we were arfen. 197 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Um but um I talked to young people there again. 198 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: I tell them, you know, you play the hand, your 199 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: dealt um and and in life, you know, life is 200 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: the hardy thing you're ever going to deal with. Um, 201 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out. Um, you can't. You can't 202 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: wait for someone else to figure it out for you. 203 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: And then the thing is along the way figuring out, 204 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: you gotta make some mistakes. Uh. And and the thing 205 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 1: is you gotta learn from those mistakes. If you don't 206 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: learn from those mistakes, you're gonna wind up in the 207 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: same spot. How do how does one walk from the 208 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: penitentiary into walk out of the penitentiary and into the 209 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: wrestling world? Like how did you get that break? My brother? Um? Actually, 210 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, my brother last Stevie Ray, Uh yeah, he 211 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: was always love wrestling since we were kids. And he 212 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: knew a guy, Ivan Putsky that was opening a wrestling 213 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: school and yeah, yeah, guy that I was working for 214 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: sponsored me to go to the wrestling school, and uh, 215 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, the pretty much the rest is history. But 216 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: walking out of prison, you know, one thing that motivated 217 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: me was the guy, the CEO on the white Horse. 218 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: He said, I see you when you get back, you know, 219 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: and and the thing is, and the thing is, I'm 220 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: sure um he saw a lot of those guys lead 221 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: that yard, you know, come right back over and over. 222 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about making those same mistakes. I 223 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't want. You know. My thing was the first time 224 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: I was in the back of the police car, I 225 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: ended up in prison. First time. Yeah, yeah, I never, 226 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: I never. I had never been to jail before in 227 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: my life. Um, the first time. That's why I say 228 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: one mistake could change the hosts and girls. I'm telling 229 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: no seriously and um and um so when when when 230 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: he said that I see you when you get back, 231 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, uh, I did not look at him like 232 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: he was a racist or anything, even though he's white 233 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: guy in the white white you know, big horns. I 234 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: didn't look at him like he was a racist. I 235 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: looked at him like, you know, he's saying that for 236 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: he's one or two reasons he's he's saying it because 237 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: you know it's something that could possibly happen, or to 238 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: motivate me not to come back there. And that's what 239 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: I used it for. And uh, I never you know, 240 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: seen a prison sentence jail cell before after that. Do 241 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: you ever use your celebrity to go back and speak 242 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: at prisoners? At one point, I was doing that a 243 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: whole lot. Um, right now I'm not doing it a 244 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: whole lot, just because I got so many other business 245 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: ventures and I'm working with kids on a regular basis. Um, 246 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm always about giving back. But you know it's force 247 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: the prison system. You know the book, you know, the 248 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: book is out, and um, I definitely make sure I 249 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: spread it around. From prison promise, you know, yeah, yeah, 250 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: from prison promise, from promise ladies and gentleman, definitely, And 251 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: uh that's so it's something that gets uh you know, 252 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: you could you could read and it's what the thing 253 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: with prisoner promises. You see my life and you see 254 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: how it turned out. Anybody can do it if you 255 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: put the work in. Yeah. Have you ever thought about 256 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: doing your own um wrestling set up? Yeah? No, no, no, no, 257 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about doing the coaching part. No, No, 258 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: he's a promoter. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I got I 259 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: got my own Reality of Wrestling. Yeah yeah, promotion. You know, 260 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: we got five thousand subscribers and on YouTube that watch 261 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: that show on a weekly basis, and um is the show. 262 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: How can we find um? Just go to YouTube slash 263 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: Reality of Wrestling check it out on the regular. Um. 264 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: But we found my show in Texas City at arena 265 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: at that book or t World Jim Arena, and uh 266 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: we're out there every month, um doing it and trying 267 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: to change something. Remember do you remember Paul Bosch a 268 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: weather ring of Paul Bush. Yeah, that's right right here. 269 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Six years let me yeah, this ring is six years 270 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: this Paul Boshes ring. Yeah. Man, Paul bosh Man, Texas 271 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,239 Speaker 1: legend man. Man, you know what do he represented? And 272 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: and you know he was he was like a mentor 273 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: to me. And you know, I never got a chance 274 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: to meet him or anything like that, but I was 275 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: a young kid, you know, from the opposite side of 276 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: the tracks. But I saw exactly you know, his heart 277 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: and what kind of person he was, Like I said, 278 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: even though I never met him before. Um, you know, 279 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: working with the the p A B. A. To Progressive 280 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: Amateur Boxing Association. UM. He is the founder UM here 281 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: in Houston for the Boys and Girls Club. I don't 282 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: know if you, UM, but esperiually so for for me 283 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: to see, you know, old white white guy, you know, 284 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: trying to change. You know, young kids live no matter 285 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,239 Speaker 1: what color they were. You know, he definitely was inspiration. 286 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: How did you get your hands on the ring? I 287 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for it. I bought it, 288 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: but I bought it from his wife. Yeah, his wife 289 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: was selling the ring and she wanted to go to 290 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: someone in Houston. UM that was close to the business. 291 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: And I represent Paul Bosh. I keep his dreaming. So 292 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I feel like a superpower. You know what, man, I'm 293 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna tell you. Ever since I bought this ring, UM, 294 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: my wife told me I didn't have to wear my 295 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: wedding ring. This is my this is will be my 296 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: red ring going forward. UM. And I've I've had nothing 297 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: but good luck through the pandemic. UM. A lot of 298 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: people lost. UM. As for as wrestling schools, UM go, 299 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: and my school grew exponentiously with as for students go. UM. 300 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Like I said, my YouTube channel went from a hundred 301 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: thousand to five hundred thousand in one year, and UM, 302 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm you know, just say, for instance, UM, one of 303 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: my students, her name is Angela, UM, came to me 304 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: three years ago for kids camp. I'm sorry, UM, fantasy camp. 305 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: It's the camp that I do on the weekend. And 306 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: uh it's sixteen years old. And now she's nineteen and 307 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: she's in the w W you know. So yeah, yeah, 308 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: so that right there is something for me. I'm more 309 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: proud of, you know, being able to produce the next 310 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: generation though, UM opposed to anything that I'm doing right now. 311 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: But that's good for the company too. That's good for business. 312 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just like like like uh this like like 313 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: uh Sam, he was in college. Are you getting people 314 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: in the Yeah yeah, we had three hundred people people 315 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: the pandemic. Um yeah, yeah, no, definitely. That's so dope. Man. 316 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: You you got your own game brewing, you know what 317 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's only gonna getting bigger. Man, you're sixteen years. Um, 318 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, it seemed like it went back 319 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: like that, but we've had our wrestling school now. Sixteen years. 320 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: Sixteen years also marks another milestone. That's when you got married. Yeah, man, 321 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: you're sixteen years married for sixteen years that going and oh, man, 322 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: my wife, we were like a tag team that can't lose. Man. 323 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: You know, she's my you know, my left hand. Uh, seriously, 324 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: we do everything as a team. You know. We got 325 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: ten year old twins and and it's um, it's been 326 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: a journey for us. And you know, life is life 327 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: is tricky. Uh, you know, you gotta really be all 328 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: in when you you got you got something like this, 329 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: when when specially when you're trying to build um at 330 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: the same time, it's got to be a love that's stronger. 331 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's my wife is my queen. She's 332 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: my queen. Um, we've been together twenty years now, and 333 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: uh it's still seem like we just got together just 334 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: last week. How stupid we are and how we play 335 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: around and dad hadn't left. You know, the fire is 336 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: not gone or anything like that. It's amazing. So so 337 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: what is give give us some relationship hecks man? You know, like, 338 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: like what what makes it work for you? You know, 339 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: as a man, you gotta you know, just you gotta 340 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: be able to compromise as a man. Man, It's it's 341 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: hard for a man to say, you know, he's wrong. 342 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: It's hard for a man to say, you know, baby, 343 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: you know you know you write about that. UM, it's 344 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: it's it's hard to um. You know, let let the 345 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: wife have you know, certain responsibilities because you feel like 346 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: you should have that responsibility. UM. It's got to be 347 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty thing. UM. As far as UM making 348 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: decisions go, UM nothing. You know. It's just like say, 349 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: for instance, UM, I have nothing UM to hide from 350 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: my wife. You know, my phone ring, she can answer it. UM, 351 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't have a you know, a burner phone. I'm 352 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: all in. You can't have one ft in and one 353 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: ft out of the relationship because it's not gonna work. Trust. 354 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, the trust thing. It's gotta be plus percent 355 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: um as far as a relationship go and then working. UM. 356 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: And I know that because I was divorced and my 357 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: um once and then my first wife. You know, she 358 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: did not understand me going on the road and making 359 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: money and UM having to you know, go to the 360 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: bar a lot of times and get something to eat. 361 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: And you know, because I'm in the bar, you know, 362 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: she might think she's thinking it's a party going on 363 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: because but but that's the only place we can get 364 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: something to eat being a wrestler after a show. Um, 365 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: they kept kitchen open force Uh. I asked my ex 366 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: wife once, uh, and I say, uh, what do you 367 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: think I I go when I leave on Friday and 368 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: don't come back until Monday. And she said, I don't 369 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: know where you go? And I went. I went in 370 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: file for a divorce that day because I knew that 371 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: relationship wasn't gonna work. But y'all gave it a good run. 372 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: I was five years, five years, no kids, um um, 373 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: and it was a it was a It was a 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: rocky relationship for you know, three of those five years, honestly, 375 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: you know. But I was wanted. I was the type 376 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: that when I got married, I wanted it to be 377 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: to death, do us part. And that right there. It's 378 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: really really hard, um to be with someone and want 379 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: to be there to death or do us part. And 380 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: what I'm what I have now. It's the hardest thing 381 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: in the world, thinking that I could lose my wife 382 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: one day, you know. But I gotta be able to 383 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 1: look at the life straight in the face because that's 384 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: my woman. I love her, you know, So that's what 385 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: life is. We got two kids together, and I got 386 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: one kid he's thirty four years old and he's right 387 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: now in prison. Uh for the same thing that I 388 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: did back when I was in youngster aggravated robbery. Um 389 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: and um Why he didn't learn the lesson that that 390 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: I learned. Why he didn't learn the lesson that I 391 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: tried to teach so many other kids right now? Um Man, 392 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: that's a hard question to answer. I can't. I can't. 393 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: Where did I go wrong? You know, I can't tell 394 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: you that. You know I have the same case on 395 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: my record, right and you know, I'm sure Like for me, 396 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: when I was going through my situation and I was 397 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: going through the process to court and all that stuff, 398 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: and you know, dealing with commissary not seeing your family 399 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: members and your girlfriend and all that kind of stuff, 400 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: I had already made up my mind when I was 401 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: sitting there watching those damn television commercials that's showing the 402 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: food you see, Like, I don't know if if anybody 403 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: has ever been in jail, can tell you food has 404 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: never looked more delicious? How bad when you're in jail 405 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: when you see even pizza man, when you see pizza 406 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: when they just show you the pizza like and the 407 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: cheese man you'd be like, man, I got to get 408 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: the hell out of that Popeye's chicken. Man that the 409 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: flakes on that it'd be just sold. Be like right, 410 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: my mind up while I was in there and I 411 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going back, And some guys they'll be in the 412 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: man and they'd be thinking like, well, if I had 413 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: just done this, I wouldn't have got caught off. When 414 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: I get out, I'm gonna do it a little bit differently. 415 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna still do what I did. Institutional. My brother, 416 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: he's institute. Warn Yeah. I mean he go to jail 417 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: every fifteen minutes right now. He not yet because I 418 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: just like, maybe a couple of months off. I mean, 419 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: he cool, but but I'm pretty sure he don't want 420 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: to go back home for a little while because that's 421 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: hopefully one hopefully got to figure out. But every since 422 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, he's been going. You know, that's the way, 423 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, but that's the way some people life. He is. 424 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: Some people get to a point to where jail is 425 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: the new him for him. A lot of people feel 426 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: like once they go through that, that's as far as 427 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna go. Um for me, Um, I knew jail 428 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: was not the place for me. You know what I knew. 429 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I never saw myself throughout my life time. You know, 430 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: I never imagined myself going to jail as a kid 431 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: just because I was a good kid. I wasn't a 432 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: bad kid, all right. I wasn't a kid that was 433 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: out there trying to get in the ship and you know, 434 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: trying to get in trouble robbing and the stealing and stuff. 435 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: I think that just wasn't me. Um, he was a 436 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: good kid that did a bad thing. Well, I just 437 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: was I got caught up. I talked about being in 438 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: that whirlwind. You know, once you're once you're in the cycle, 439 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, you didn't get out into a stop. Um. 440 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: And for me, I was in the cycle, and you 441 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: know what, and I wasn't gonna you know, I didn't 442 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: want to get out. I was having fun, you know, 443 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: even in that moment, you know, the chase, even you 444 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: know with the robberies, it was you know, it was 445 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: a it was kind of like a kick from from 446 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: a perspective, not understanding what life is really about and 447 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: what were that kid could actually take me? Um. And 448 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: then when I got in jail, you know, my sentence 449 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: range from five to ninety nine and then I stopped 450 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: taking out Okay, whole life flash. Yes, so you're like 451 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: convenience stories or we were robbing up fast food restaurants. Yeah, yeah, 452 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: you know fast food restaurants. Really Listen, now, well, I 453 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell nobody what to do, Like, I'm not 454 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 1: trying to tell somebody what to do. I'm just saying that, 455 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's a certain convenience too, uh robbing fast 456 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: food restaurants. I'm just saying, what's the convenient. I'm just saying, 457 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, like you get the prize of the burg 458 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: on the way out reaching the I'm trying to figure 459 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: the convenient. Well, most food fast food restaurants, Uh, you 460 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: know they're safe in that room, right and uh yeah, 461 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: if you can just get to the manager, you know, 462 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: like come on, you know you can do that at 463 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: any bake. Why go to the restaurant? Well, well, well, 464 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: well the bank has more levels and and also the 465 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: bank is federal, so they're taking a lot more personally 466 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: the bank. But if you go inside of a restaurant, uh, 467 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: then certain things fast food restaurant normally normally they keep 468 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: it normally they keep the safe safe open. Right. Well, 469 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: not normally, not normally, but it's it's it's not hard 470 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: to get them. Now, here's a deal they wanted. Now 471 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: having said that, boys and girls, please do not try 472 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: this at home. It is a horrible idea because here's 473 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: the thing about this thing about robbering, just like selling dope. Eventually, yea, 474 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: eventually you will get caught. Because here's it's what happens 475 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: is that most people they will continue to do get 476 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: It's hard to miss that fast, getting money that fast, 477 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: that easy. Like I mean, Pablo Escobar, you know, somebody 478 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: who had had millions and millions of dollars who could 479 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: have retired, but he said, man, I gotta keep making 480 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: this money. I think that when you that goddamn how 481 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: you can't retire. Well, I'm just saying, you know, but 482 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 1: but just think about this money. Just think about the 483 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: boys down there in Atlanta. You know who's making all 484 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: that money back in the day, you know, you know 485 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: the boys, uh Big Beach, the boys, Um, they were 486 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: making so much money. But it just seems like but 487 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: it seems like you have enough money they want to 488 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: walk away from it and and do something with just 489 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: calling your man the game. I think I think Also 490 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: I think that, like, I think that the lifestyle really 491 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: is addictive, just like any other I think the lifestyle, 492 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I think and in the same winning that money and 493 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: that money come that fast. Look man, I mean, I 494 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: mean you're like cry story. You're like crying story. Look 495 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: at John Gotti. John Gotti, he was all in. He said, 496 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm a gamester, you know. He said, I'm going to easy, 497 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: to go to prison. I'm gonna die one or two. Um, 498 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do my thing. So I understand, you know, 499 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: getting caught up in that lifestyle. But um, you know, man, 500 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: it's life is is is so quick, and when you 501 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: got that kind of money, you could definitely, um live 502 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: it the way you want for a lone time. Why 503 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, cash out like that. That's what I want. Yeah, 504 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: And I think I think it's like what I said, 505 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: I talked about fast food stories. No, no, I ain't 506 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: talking about that. I'm talking about making big money like 507 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: these guys. And why can't you walk away from from 508 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: the game. The game is addictive. I've been in the game, 509 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: um um, but prison made me see that. You know, 510 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in the game, and I 511 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: wanted to do something legal and make some some real 512 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: money and live life. You know what I mean, because 513 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what that lifestyle is like. I don't 514 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: know how I feel, but it's got to feel good. 515 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: That is in money in wrestling for the individual. I 516 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: know it's money in in wrestling for the actual promoter 517 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: because we have paid three, four or five hundred dollars 518 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: for seats in the damn Toyota Center. Uh, you know, 519 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: the Summit. I'm lying in the Summit, man, to go 520 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: see some some damn wrestling shows. Man. And it ain't 521 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: no different than the rap game. You know. The guys 522 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: who are the guys that top make the money to 523 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: guys you know, that's you know, drawing your house. They 524 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: make the money to God, that's some of the most merchandise. 525 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: You know. He's you know, making money, you know. So 526 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a very very lucative bitch. Um. I 527 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: got a million dollar house, you know, so I've very 528 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: well for myself here wrestling was a champion though. Man, 529 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. How 530 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: are you making up in the bag. That's just like 531 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: in any other spoord and thing is it's like you 532 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: just said, you know, the promoters making his money. But 533 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: the promoter what's the guy's name? But but but but 534 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: the promoter is going to make his money. But if 535 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: you get caught up, but caught up with how much 536 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: money he's making, then you really get lost. You get lost, 537 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I at thinking about 538 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: how much money you making? You negotiating for yourself exactly exactly? 539 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: And when when when young folks get out there and 540 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, get ahead of themselves to start, that's exactly, 541 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: that's when they can blow a million dollar deal up. 542 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: You know much money. You know what happens. I'd like 543 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: to say it's a million dollars a show for something 544 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: for some wrestlers. Oh no, a wrestler don't make a 545 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: million dollars per show. Um. Wrestlers are contracted and they 546 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: make as much money as you know, um, their start 547 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: power take them um as far as you know, how 548 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: higher up you're on the card. Um if you're in 549 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: the main event. Uh, certain pay per views, you know 550 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Stuff like that? Don't you in a 551 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: pay per views? They definitely definitely if you, like I say, 552 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: if you uh the bush, everybody don't get that everybody. 553 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you a main event guy and wrestling, um, 554 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: these days, you're making easier lill. You know, throwing back 555 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: to what we were talking about about the about how 556 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: you get caught up trying to count somebody else's money 557 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: instead of being focused on your own. Uh, this happens 558 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: a lot in the music industry where I know, like 559 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: very talented people they're so like obsessed with nobody fucking 560 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: over them that they end up sucking themselves because you 561 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: gotta take a chance, Like I mean, you gotta, you 562 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: gotta take a chance. And I'm gonna tell you, like 563 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: for anybody out that that's inspiring. If you're coming into 564 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: the game, more than likely you're not gonna start at 565 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: the top with paid Your pay grade is not going 566 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: to be on the level of those guys that inspired 567 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: you to get in the game. You know, Like if 568 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: you look at from from Michael Jackson and Stevie Want, 569 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: all of these guys, Elvis everybody started somewhere and all 570 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm said, my first deal, gon, you gotta you gotta 571 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: get your foot in doing Some of these guys they're 572 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: never gonna get in the door because they're really just 573 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: totally obsessed with this thing about not getting fun. Well, 574 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: they really don't understand. I came in just say, first, 575 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: just when I first joined um W c W company 576 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: I was with before w W f WW. My first 577 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: contract was seventy five dollars okay, now seventy dollars for 578 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: me as a kid coming out of South Park A year. 579 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like, man, I'm like, I'm like, 580 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: I can do that. And uh. But it was guys 581 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: that was nowhere near talented as I was making two 582 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: d fifty thousand, and I'm like, I could have been 583 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like hey known that whatnot? Um, 584 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: But I said, I gotta get my foot in the 585 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: door before I can start making any moves. Uh. And 586 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: then once I get my foot in the door, things 587 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: that happened. At the end of the of that company, 588 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I was making more money than all those guys. Yeah, 589 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: at seventy five k. How does that money dispersed? Like 590 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: is it? Is it over a number of fights? And 591 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: how does that go? Um? It's you get a check 592 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: in the mail every every every other week. It's not 593 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: over a matter of fights. You know. I had a 594 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed countract SEV year seventy five a year. Yeah, that 595 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: was my first contract. Yeah, and I don't know if 596 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: my my first contract, I don't know. I may have worked, 597 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: um hundred fifty days out of that year. Yeah, what 598 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: do you think about it was seventy five dollars from 599 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: compared to my last job making fifteen thousand. Absolutely, you 600 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: think about the UFC fighting, you know what, I love 601 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: the um to to talk about it. I love uh, 602 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, um watching it, um, but I wouldn't want 603 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: any of my you know, friends to do it. Uh. 604 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: It's not a sport that the human body was meant 605 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: to do. Well, it's it's like, well, the thing is, 606 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: I would like it a heart. I would like them, 607 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: I would like exactly. I wouldn't like it a whole 608 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: lot more if those guys got paid more. They don't 609 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: get paid no whole hell of a lot of money. 610 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: You know what. The top guys, well, the top guys 611 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: get paid, UM, get money, but you know, they don't 612 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: make more money than the top professional wrestler you know, 613 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: nowhere near it, you know. And and when you see 614 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: those guys going out there and beat themselves up on 615 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: a on a regular basis, you know, in their careers 616 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: only last most of them three to four years. I've 617 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: seen so many of those guys start their career and 618 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: finished their career. It's not even funny. Um in their 619 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: careers after this over with, you know what they're gonna 620 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: do after that? You know, So most of them having 621 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: you know, over their career, just say finished and then 622 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: the UFC eight years and you look up how much 623 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: money that they've made, just say they made three point 624 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: five billion dollars and eight years. That's like, that's like 625 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: working every day. It's like having a regular job. Yeah, 626 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 1: when you gotta wait a minute, wait a minute, three 627 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: point five and eight years. When you got a house, 628 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: a wife, um, kids, insurance taxes that that three So 629 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's more like you know, considering considering taxes, 630 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: first of all, that's about three hundred thousand a year. 631 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: And then if you got family and house and cars 632 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. I mean, it's still 633 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: that's still the average person going on how you live. Yeah, right, 634 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: that three hundred thousand dollars a year. For me, that's 635 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: not you know, you know, that's not a whole lot 636 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: of money. Like I said, when you got kids and 637 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, wife that you gotta get a hat of 638 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: nails done. You know, wife, they got to get their 639 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: heads and nails done. Man. Man, they don't know how 640 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: serious that is. Not have a black woman EASi serious her, miles, Man, 641 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: you might want to go outside the race just for 642 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: that alone. Hey, happy, I'm not saying no, I'm not 643 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: saying nothing. I was told my wife I was married 644 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: a white woman before we ever got married. I told 645 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: my wife I'm married a white woman. Now, why why 646 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: did you telling? Because it was afting experience I had 647 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: with my first wife and we were out, was having 648 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: in Vegas, her a bunch of her friends. We were 649 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: just talking and that's I'd never married black woman again. 650 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: Her end up getting married. We've been together for twenty years. 651 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: She was like, I'm gonna show you because you know, 652 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: women like having first wife had nails alone. Right. Have 653 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: you ever looked into like getting into like acting and stuff. Well, 654 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: you've been in a few films right already. Yeah. I 655 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: like going all the way. I've been in the front 656 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: of the camera for thirty years, and uh, I like producing. 657 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: I like being behind the camera. I still have to 658 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: do stuff, you know, in front of the camera. Now, 659 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: but it's not a place that I really want to be, 660 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: even though I'm comfortable there. But I just I'm just 661 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: so past that part of my life. UM, and I 662 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: just want to do something else. It's not about me anymore. UM. 663 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: It's far as being in front of the camera. I 664 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: just like being relevant these days. I don't want to 665 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: be the start. I don't want to be the guy 666 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: in front. I like being you know, low keying behind 667 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: the scenes. Um. But but staying relevant it's really really cool. Uh. 668 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll give props. You know. I always say, you're never 669 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy that's always on top. Um, somebody's 670 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: always gonna boom take that spot, boom boom boo. But 671 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: the people to stay relevant and being played, you know, 672 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: it's very very important for me. I like that bad 673 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: buddy he wrote a song about me, and uh and 674 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: he got it book or team and you know, we 675 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: did the video, and um, I said, man, that's really 676 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: really cool, man, for a young Puerto Rican kid write 677 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: a song about me and keeps me relevant from my 678 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 1: whole different genre and then a totally totally different form 679 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: of entertainment and go, wow, that's pretty pretty cool. So 680 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you have you need someone else to keep you relevant. 681 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: But you gotta you know, but you gotta know how 682 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: to you know, keep yourself in the game. You know, 683 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: always oh yeah, but that's the thing, you know, But 684 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: that's the thing, you know what I mean. And I 685 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: appreciate that so much. Um coming, I can say from 686 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: a kid all the way across the water that doesn't 687 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: even speak English and he's watching me on television and 688 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: he goes, that's the guy, you know that I like, 689 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: you know, and it's just it's humbling in a lot 690 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: of ways. But but I'm always about the future. I'm 691 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: always about reinventing myself. You know. I'd say, if I 692 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: had a flat top of the fade, you know, we 693 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: would probably be having this conversation because you know, I 694 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't, you know, continue to move on. So I 695 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: had to change the way I looked aged what you know. 696 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, I do things from a certain perspective just 697 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: to keep up with young people. You know, I gotta saying, 698 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, um, we said respect your oldest for years, 699 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: I say respect your young people. I work with a 700 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: lot of young people because they in the future and 701 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: they definitely know how to create in this world. That 702 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: we're living in right now, so you know, just knowing 703 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: how to you know, keep up with the times or 704 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: the times and pass you by what I like to, 705 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, think about more than anything. Yeah, what about 706 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: that that dog? Didn't you have a dog? About thirty 707 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: action figures? Yeah, that's what's cool, man. I never a 708 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: kid come and grow up growing up in South Park. 709 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, you don't dream and stuff like that. You 710 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: don't think about that kind of stuff. But you know 711 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: it's cool, you know, it's it's all. Uh, I love it, 712 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 1: you know. But I'd never look at myself like other 713 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: people look at me. All right. I don't look at 714 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: myself in the mirror and seeing nobody else other than Junior, 715 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: the kid who grew up you know, you know I'm 716 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: still the same person. I never can look at myself 717 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: like other people look at me. Uh, I'll lose focus 718 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: on get what I'm really here for. I don't look 719 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: at but I don't look at myself as a celebrity 720 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: like every like most people do. Um, I'm humble. I'm humble. 721 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm very humble because you know, I know how hard 722 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: it is to get there, and I know how fast 723 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: you could go away from How do you maintain your 724 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: control when somebody who knows your history knows who you are? 725 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: You book a tedious international celebrity, they know you are, 726 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: you're a tough guy. How do you maintain control when 727 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: you know somebody's trying to push that button to get 728 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: a reaction? I go, I give him the reaction? Name one. 729 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: You damn right, every time? Every time, just like just 730 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: just say first, I want to go. I went out 731 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: to eat one day, me my wife, and it was 732 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: just a couple sitting right here and we're standing right 733 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 1: here waiting to get our table. Okay, and uh we 734 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: wait maybe ten minutes so they're getting They finally give 735 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: us a table, give us a table over here, we 736 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,439 Speaker 1: sat down or our food person still sitting over there. 737 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: They're eating their food. They finished eating their food. They 738 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: come over the over to my table as I'm getting 739 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: ready to start eating my food and go said, can 740 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: I get an autograph? I said, I say, hey, b 741 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: excuse me. You know I'm eating right now. If you 742 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: catch me after that finish eating, you know, outside it 743 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: He goes, and he goes, oh, man, you know you 744 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: don't have to be an asshole. But I don't want 745 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: to autography. The funk with you was when you was 746 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: eating your food. I said, did that funk with you? 747 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: Did I funk with you when you was inating your food? 748 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, get the funk out of here. So I'm 749 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: human just like you are. I got emotions just like 750 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: you are, like you do. And I'll go there just 751 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: because I feel like I can protect myself. You know, 752 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: it's just that simple. No, No, it's just but but 753 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: if someone you know is trying to irk me, you know, 754 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it to But but like I say, 755 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: I have a say, um, it doesn't cost me anything 756 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: to be nice to people. That person could have had 757 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: that same consideration, but he didn't. You see, I don't know. 758 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: See I gotta tick in my head. So I don't 759 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: know if I want to think that I could maintain 760 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: control and I think about these type of things, but 761 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,919 Speaker 1: I want to maintain control, like listen, man, But I 762 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: don't know what had happened if somebody tried me like 763 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,839 Speaker 1: I don't. They might on a particular date, I might 764 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: you know, I might let it slide on another date. 765 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that I might knock the head. 766 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: I might be checked it and shake for me. I'm 767 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 1: I like I like to test myself. I like being 768 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: confrontational sometimes if somebody, if somebody, you know, rub me 769 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: the wrong way, I'll get confrontational a heartbeat. And just 770 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: because I still feel like I can protect myself, I 771 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: still want to know if I I still want to 772 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: get in the fight every now and then. But but 773 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: conflict is costly, right, you know, conflict is costly. Even 774 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: if you win, you could take a nail. And and and 775 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: that's and what I mean by that is that you know, 776 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: first of all, you gotta watch you back, especially you know, 777 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: you gotta always watch your back. Anytime you get into 778 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: a physical confrontation with someone, you have to watch your back. 779 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: And another thing is that let's say you beat the 780 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: head in you, you go to jail. You know what 781 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now, you gotta get gotta deal with lawyers. 782 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: You gotta have this jury. Sometimes that is not that 783 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: don't that don't don't you can't. You ain't gonna never 784 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: stop being a man, if you know, it's just the 785 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: way I don't know, that's that's the way I am. 786 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm still the same kid it that was running 787 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: around on the streets, I got my I got you know, 788 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: I got money. Now. I mean, I'm you know, a 789 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: person that people saying they know I'm somewhat famous whatnot. 790 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: But I'm still the same person that I've always been 791 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: and I don't ever want to stop being, you know, 792 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: the person being able to man up and and and 793 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: tell a person man funk off, you know. I mean, 794 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,240 Speaker 1: because there again, if someone put you in that position 795 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: to have to say that. I don't know. For me, 796 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: it's a release. My wife she always gets. She always like, baby, 797 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: don't your baby, baby. You know what I'm like, you know, 798 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: I gotta do it. You know you was telling you, 799 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 1: was talking to tell it was the kids came to 800 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 1: my house one time. Let me tell you what happened 801 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 1: to me. I was at my house on a Sunday 802 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: because I was on the road. Um, I was wrestling 803 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: at the time. I had an ice pack on my knee, 804 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: was football on, sitting there watching television, and I have 805 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: a gat around my house and the doorbell was ringing. 806 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: I gotta give a bell out there. D D D 807 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: D D D D D over and over and over. Um, 808 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell. I'll go to the in 809 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: a calm I say, who is it? You know, here's 810 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: some voice to say his book or tea here and 811 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: go to the door now. And I opened the door 812 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: and I'll go, you know, what do you guys want 813 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: to go? Who was some water girls? One is on 814 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: the gold cart, one is on on a on a 815 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: mini bike. I go, teenagers. One's eighteen, one's nineteen. So 816 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: they're they're eight, they're of age, they're grown as far 817 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned. Um, And I told him, look, guys, 818 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: get away from my house. I don't sign autographs at 819 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: my house. And and the kids said, well, fuck you didn't, nigger. 820 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: They took off on their mini biking motors and a 821 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: little up gold cart. I go to jump in ice 822 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: pack with flying off my knee and stopped hurting. Not 823 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: my adrenaline and endorphins went everywhere. I go jump in 824 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: the hummer. And my wife like, baby, let me go 825 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: with you. And I took off, you know, go down 826 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: to the end of the street. Get if I look, 827 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: can't see, if my turn right, just to see if 828 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: I go this way, they might be down there. Finally 829 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: I saw both of them, one of them on a 830 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,359 Speaker 1: little mini bike. He went down this little area why 831 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't go in my hummer, but the one of 832 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: the gold card, I cut him off. That's what I'm saying. Sometimes, 833 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,879 Speaker 1: when you get pisched off, you go a place that 834 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: you know you normally would go. Um. The kid on 835 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: the gold cart, he went through these people's yard and 836 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: he's literally doing dough nuts in this gold card and 837 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: these people's jars, probably a million two billion dollar house. 838 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 1: You know. Those people came out the next day wondering 839 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 1: what the hell just happened? Like it comes out on 840 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: the street. I followed him in by hammer right, I 841 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: get up on his back. He goes to these other 842 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: people's yard and the chain comes off the gold card. 843 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 1: I put the hummering park and I power walk to 844 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: him and I said, you better not run. I grabbed 845 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: him by the back of his head. Open my hommer door, 846 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: and I threw him in the hommer. Okay, now get 847 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: in the other side. Let's say call me that. Now 848 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: called say it again, and you know, he was like, 849 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man, it was my friend. Is. My friend 850 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: said take me to your house. Man, I want you 851 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: to tell your mother exactly what you told me. So 852 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,719 Speaker 1: we're going to his house. Before we get a couple 853 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: of blocks. It's like four police cars behind me, all right, 854 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: you know, just like you just see I gotta get 855 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: that each other. But now I get out of the 856 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,839 Speaker 1: car and the cop goes of what's going on, man, 857 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I tell him exactly. You know, I 858 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: didn't get the trouble or anything. Um, But if I 859 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 1: go there, I'm gonna go there, and I don't accept 860 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,719 Speaker 1: the consequences when they come. Um. It's just like going 861 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: to court. You know. You know, if you, if you, 862 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you, if you gotta lie, 863 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: you gotta think. I feel like I always try to 864 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: feel like the truth is gonna be on my side 865 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: because you know, I have nothing to lie about and 866 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: hopefully that a workout for me. My word has been 867 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 1: that's bad. Wait a minute. That wasn't a kid. He 868 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: was a crown as man. He was he was grown man. Yeah. 869 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: I was sharing with with Book of t earlier that 870 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: I had a similar story, Like we were talking about 871 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: this kid, these little white kids that were these kids? 872 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: Why are you talking about I didn't want to make presumptions, 873 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, they said, you know what I mean, I 874 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 1: would have I would have did the same thing. If 875 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: they were black kids. So I'm at home on the weekend, 876 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: like it's early. Nope, I'm the type of dude that 877 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: nobody rings my bell that I don't know if you 878 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,800 Speaker 1: if you knock on my door, I got to already 879 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: know that who it is. So I hear to do 880 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: a bell ring, I wake up. It's like nine o'clock 881 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 1: in the morning. I come through in my role. I 882 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: got the shotgun hanging. I got my shotgun hanging, and 883 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: I just opened it, or I could have looked out 884 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 1: the window, but I wanted to let them know it's 885 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 1: a man in his house. So I just big confortation. Yeah, 886 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: confortation opened the door and it's like four little white 887 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: kids standard outside and they're like, uh sorry, Mr D 888 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: really D, can we get an autograph? And I was like, 889 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 1: you got the shot good by your leg. I'm like, 890 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: oh man, be careful now because I would have shot you. 891 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: But but I want to. I went ahead and gave 892 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: the kids some autographs. But but but after that point, 893 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. Every house that I've lived in 894 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: Sensus had been gating, oh man. And the thing is, 895 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: you know people these days, you don't know why didn't knock. 896 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: I've had people knock on my my my actually read 897 00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 1: that bell at midnight. Um literally, But you know, actually 898 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 1: for me, you know, so you just never know um 899 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: with people these days, so you gotta be confrontational sometimes. 900 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: And for me, I'm I'm very I'm like I'm like 901 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: a pit bull, especially like with my family, you know 902 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm always thinking about them as well, 903 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: and sometimes you For me, I know, I'll put my 904 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: families safety before mine any day of the week. I 905 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: don't I take a bullet, no matter what I mean. 906 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: I just know I would give a bullet. I'll give 907 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: one exactly what I'm saying and then take the consequences 908 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: of what happened. Um, just because I'm still that person, 909 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: I'll never want to lose that. Yeah, you should only 910 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 1: want to make sure I can get away with it. Yes, 911 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: I think I think the key is to to have 912 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 1: the intention of getting If your life is an imminent danger, 913 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: you can pop. And that's what That's what nobody comes. 914 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: We texted, Yeah, if your life is an imminent danger, 915 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: you should. It doesn't necessarily mean that that they won't 916 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: try to drag you off into a courtroom. Are you 917 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 1: going to court. Yeah, you're going to jail. Yeah, and 918 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: your firearms getting confiscated, right yeah, well yeah, yeah. It 919 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: all depends on it. It depends on how zealous the 920 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: prosecuted is brown, black, and I live in the state 921 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: of Texas. Every every prosecutor go ahead, every prosecutor trying 922 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: to move up to judge. You know. So you know 923 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: when I was, when I was in uh the county jail, 924 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: this judge, his name was you may have heard of. 925 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: His nator's name was Judge Ted pol And I say, 926 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: human being with caution. You just see what I'm saying. 927 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I'm talking about. You know. Sometimes like 928 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 1: uh like just making a joke but being dead as serious. Man, 929 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 1: they'd be like, well, what about Kamala Kamala Harris. Yeah, 930 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,520 Speaker 1: I like Kamala, but she didn't locked him on the Ted. 931 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 1: That's what I always say, Hey man, I'm gonna tell 932 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 1: you right now, man, that that name ring fear to 933 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: every sale in the county. Man just hoping and praying 934 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: that they didn't go before judge that pope because they 935 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: knew they was gonna get a whole lot of times 936 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: he locked up his son. Hey man, you know, so 937 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 1: that that everybody in that business, you know, they're trying 938 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,760 Speaker 1: to move up. That that's the system. That's the system 939 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: of it. It ain't about saving lives. It's about, you know, 940 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,400 Speaker 1: how much money I can make. Remember that time, to 941 00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 1: remember that time when the uh when he told a 942 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 1: guy that having any steps, it takes for you to 943 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,760 Speaker 1: get up to them to the bench, that's how many years? 944 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: How many years? And in the dude roll and he 945 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:22,680 Speaker 1: let him go. I didn't hear that story, but he 946 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: was notorious for those types of star man. Yeah, that 947 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: dude rolled up there to him and he met him. 948 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: Go hey, man, like I said, Man, that that name 949 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: ring Fear and and that right there, that right there 950 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: just lets you know how big of a game it 951 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 1: really is. You know, if the if the guys in 952 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: the cell block no, a certain judge's name and and 953 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: that name could totally determine you know, their life, yeah, 954 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,040 Speaker 1: the rest of it. Yeah, it's amazing and it's cold 955 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: blooded that that man we want to with another man 956 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: in that position, unless he was a rapist or a 957 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: child murderer or some ship like that. But just because 958 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: the man, you know, I was trying to feed his 959 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,120 Speaker 1: family and he was hustling, you know. Yeah, some of 960 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: these him with this ship in the first place. Some 961 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 1: of these judges and prosecutors, they are who they convict, 962 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, they are who they sent to jail. You know, 963 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: they are that that and that's the irony of having 964 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,919 Speaker 1: a human beings sit in judgment of another human being. 965 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: Oftentimes they are the person who they persecute and prosecute. 966 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: Why are the sentencing guidelines different for black people than 967 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: it is for white people? Yeah? Why why can't Timmy 968 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 1: get caught with I mean, it has nothing to do 969 00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: with that's nothing to do with race. Well, the thing 970 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 1: is who wrote the laws? I mean, I mean I 971 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't. 972 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: Let me straighten that out because something some food out 973 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: there probably listening to the podcast and going like, what 974 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: did you say? That have nothing to do with race? 975 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 1: All right, dummy, listen, we know what it is. We 976 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: know what it is. I mean it's America, man, I 977 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: mean that's what it is. I mean, like I said, 978 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: it was written that way. I mean, it didn't happen 979 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:33,880 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, how you making stop if that judge 980 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:38,760 Speaker 1: sentence that black dude for more time? Than she sentenced 981 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,200 Speaker 1: that white guy. Then I feel like the judge need 982 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: to do the remainder that time when she gets popped. 983 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,439 Speaker 1: You know the way the way I look at that dude, 984 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, just to be real. That's the 985 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: only way I can keep it. It's real. I talked 986 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: about this all the time, you know, we we're talking 987 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: about you know, the centisen guy's lines and this and 988 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: that and whatnot the other that. I think that's one 989 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Um. I think the bigger part 990 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 1: of the problem is putting yourself in that situation. You 991 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: know what to deal with from the beginning. You put 992 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,440 Speaker 1: yourself in that situation and you get caught. Um I 993 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: said it, I said it earlier. Um As for my situation, go, 994 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,359 Speaker 1: I played the hand that I was dealt. Okay, now 995 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: you find yourself in in front of Ted Poele, you're 996 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal to hand. You you you're dealt 997 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 1: because you put yourself in that situation. Got sentienson God lives, 998 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: yet they should be a whole lot different than they are. 999 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: But um, I said Mike Tyson having that young eighteen 1000 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,760 Speaker 1: year old girl in his hotel room at two o'clock 1001 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: in the morning. He put himself in that situation for 1002 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,479 Speaker 1: that to happen. She put herself. No, I'm not saying 1003 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 1: she wasn't grown, But that ain't what I'm saying. That 1004 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: ain't what I'm saying. I'm saying Mike Tyson put himself 1005 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: in a position that he didn't have to be in. 1006 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,480 Speaker 1: If Mike Tyson wanted the piece of ass, all he 1007 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,279 Speaker 1: had to do was make a phone call and it 1008 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 1: would have been straight. I mean, we're in this we're 1009 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: sitting here in this room right now. If a young 1010 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: woman come in this room and then leave out this 1011 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: room and the young woman came out women, if this 1012 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: young woman came in this room and started doing something, 1013 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute, No, no, wait a minute. No, I'm 1014 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 1: just I'm just letting you know. I'm talking about put 1015 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: yourself in the situation, because I've been in the situation. 1016 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 1: War I'm in the hotel room and all the cocaine 1017 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,960 Speaker 1: come out. Okay, I could stay there, do the cocaine 1018 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 1: if I want to, and then I could leave that room. 1019 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 1: And then uh that that. That next day I go 1020 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: go to work and they said, you got a drug 1021 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: test today. I gotta deal. I gotta deal with the consequence. 1022 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that I put myself in that different. No, no, 1023 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: it's different. Different. We're talking about consenting adults. And we 1024 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: let me said, we're talking about adults. What we know. 1025 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: What we know is we're talking about adults, right, and 1026 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 1: we all know that if you have two wrong folks 1027 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: who are in a hotel room, you know what mind 1028 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: you two o'clock in the morning, two o'clock in the morning, 1029 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: we know what go down? All right? The only reason 1030 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 1: and this could have this could have this could have happened. 1031 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 1: First of all, this could have happened to anybody when Mike, 1032 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: when Michael did no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1033 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: it could happen. It couldn't have happened to anybody. No, no, no, no. 1034 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you I've been in this situation. I 1035 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: have to before. I've been in this situation before with 1036 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: the young lady and and and she said, no, I 1037 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: don't think I want to do that, you know what 1038 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 1: I mean. And the first thing I say is, Okay, 1039 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: let's get up and let's get How do we know 1040 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,080 Speaker 1: Mike didn't say that? Well, how do we know he did? Yeah, Well, 1041 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 1: we don't. And that's why that's why the press, because anybody, okay, okay, 1042 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: watch this, watch this. I'm with a young woman. And 1043 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: and and then like let's just say, let's just say, 1044 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: whatever happened, I decide, you know what, you decided you 1045 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: don't want to do anything. And I say, okay, all right, 1046 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: we'll see later. And you walk out, and now you 1047 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: how at me? You get that? You know what? I 1048 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: should just say he tried to rape me. Well, okay, 1049 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: let me say that. Well, so she might have wanted something, 1050 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: perhaps because it was like, funk that I'm not giving 1051 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: you anything. Maybe okay, I got something for your ass, 1052 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: you know what. And that's and don't you guys, you 1053 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: guys are missing the point. The point is Mike Tyson 1054 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: put himself in a situation for something to happen. That's 1055 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 1: just that's okay, what I'm what I'm saying. What I'm 1056 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: saying is that what I'm saying is that all of 1057 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: us put ourselves in a situation for something. No, no, no, no, no, 1058 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: that's not true. That's not true because like I just 1059 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: I just gave you a scenario about the cocaine coming out. 1060 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: But that's your choice. No, thats no, that's not that's 1061 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: not what I'm saying. It's not that. That's not apples 1062 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 1: to apples. Okay, okay, no, watch this, Watch this, Watch this. 1063 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: We're we're all um, We're all in um in the 1064 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: club together. We're sitting in the section. We're sitting there, 1065 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: We're sitting in the Let me get you another. Ah, 1066 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: we're all sitting in the club together. We're in the 1067 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,640 Speaker 1: v I P section chilling. I'm not in everybody that 1068 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: with Brad. Okay, we're chilling. It's girls in the v 1069 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: I P. All right, Um, a few people get up 1070 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 1: walk away. Your left in the v I P with 1071 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: some woman that you don't know. Next thing you know, 1072 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,600 Speaker 1: the next day, oh you know if it's high and 1073 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: you probably even spoke to the woman. Next thing you know, 1074 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 1: this woman is accusing you of rape. This woman is killing. Okay, 1075 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 1: to prison for that, yeah, you can costly with the prison. 1076 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: You can go to prison for that. Come on, now, 1077 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: all the person has to do, all the person has 1078 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: to do is accuse you of something, your guilty and 1079 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: to have proven innocent. In the United States, tell me this, 1080 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Why didn't Mike Typson go to prison? That's not America 1081 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: with a racist cordia in Indian Apples, Indiana, mind you, 1082 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 1: the harm of the cool the founding territory. It is funny. Well, 1083 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,840 Speaker 1: like I said, like I said, you could you could 1084 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: white wash it anyway you want, if you if you said, 1085 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: my thing is this year, if you're selling cocaine and 1086 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: you get caught, you put yourself in that situations no, no, okay, nonute? 1087 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Where the choice? Okay? Absolutely, okay, Now that's a choice 1088 01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: that that that is a choice. But okay, you're selling 1089 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the cocaine. You don't think something should happen. You don't 1090 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: think you you don't think it's a chance that you 1091 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, you don't think what you wait a minute. 1092 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: You don't think the chance. See, you don't think it's 1093 01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: a chance you're gonna get caught. Absolutely, But if you 1094 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: but if you, but if you are walking to the store, 1095 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 1: if you're walking too a in a store and you 1096 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: see a friend that you know at the corner store 1097 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 1: and you stop to speak to him, and the police 1098 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: roll up and find some dope, they take him, and 1099 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you did you put yourself in that position? Well, that 1100 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: that's a that's a totally different for me. Personally, I 1101 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 1: want to take with me personally. Ain't gonna be walking 1102 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: on the street and meet somebody that's got some dope. 1103 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got some dope right now. No, 1104 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: no dope right now. I don't know that family don't know. 1105 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I don't know. The way I 1106 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: would the way I would explain myself and me personally, 1107 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: I got lawyers, I would say I had an interview, 1108 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 1: here's the email for me to be here. Will sit by, 1109 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: like I said, I will plead my case. If I 1110 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,680 Speaker 1: if I went to jail, if I went to jail, 1111 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I would would I would go to No? No, no, no. 1112 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 1: The thing is if I went to jail, if I 1113 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: put to jail, I put myself in a situation that 1114 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been here. Did I know I should 1115 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,439 Speaker 1: have been in that situation? No, but I was. Maybe 1116 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be so many people that put themselves in 1117 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: those situations that you speak of, but there are so 1118 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: many people that don't and they end up in prison. 1119 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: We end up getting that live snatch away. We see 1120 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: the stories now my time, I put myself in a 1121 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: situation situation because you was going to the story, No, no, no, 1122 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 1: and you walked away from I put myself in a situation. 1123 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, you put yourself in a situation where you 1124 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 1: was at home chilling and somebody identified, somebody identified the 1125 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:47,000 Speaker 1: guy that robbed the store. If I like something, book 1126 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: of Book of T can't prove what he was on 1127 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: that day, he got a problem. I don't think the 1128 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Book of T is gonna have that problem. I just 1129 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: don't because Booker T in an international star. Know everybody 1130 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 1: knows what books. Everybody no not if it's a big 1131 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: no no, if it's a cold pay you listen. If 1132 01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: there's some action now, if it's something it's a camera 1133 01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: right there, that's gonna say. That's ain't putting myself. See, 1134 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you're trying to cover for the crisp. I'm not. I'm not. 1135 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cover for the criminal. What I'm saying, 1136 01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 1: like I said, even with Mike Tyson, was it was 1137 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: it he did it or not. I'm not saying whether 1138 01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: he did or not. I say Mike didn't do that, 1139 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: but I don't happen. He didn't have to do it. Okay, 1140 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 1: did o J Simpson do? Yeah? He did? He didn't. Okay, 1141 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: did not you didn't even agree on that. You can't 1142 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: even agree on that. You know, if O J didn't 1143 01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 1: do it, If o J didn't do it, he was 1144 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: right on the side of Doe saying do it like this, 1145 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,280 Speaker 1: don't do it. He did it. No a white woman, 1146 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 1: white woman. Y'all can't even agree if O J didn't 1147 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 1: know the guy who killed this other guy looked like 1148 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: scar face. Now suppose the police when it came to 1149 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 1: my house. Okay, no, no, this is my point. You 1150 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: want a celebrity and you get accused of murder, and 1151 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 1: you get accused of murder and your celebrity, you probably 1152 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: did it because they will. They will falsely identify people 1153 01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: all the time, common people. But they got it right 1154 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: because they know they'll get well. Putting yourself in a situation, Okay, 1155 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 1: why did um um um um O J. Simpson get 1156 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: off because he had That's not why. No, no, the 1157 01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: reason that no, no, no, that's not why. The reason 1158 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:51,200 Speaker 1: why O J. Simpson got off is because that's not 1159 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 1: your money. Well, if you if you let me explain 1160 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,640 Speaker 1: my point the reason why, just like what we're talking 1161 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: about right here, Putting yourself in the situation, if you 1162 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: put yourself in the situations can happen. Okay. Now my 1163 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: thing is this, you got you got, you gotta, you 1164 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: gotta Okay, you can take take you uh, your medicine, medicine, 1165 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: your hot medicine. No, no, what I'm saying was O J. Simpson. 1166 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: This is just my theory. O J. Simpson got off 1167 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,959 Speaker 1: just when we're talking about right here, person putting himself 1168 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,480 Speaker 1: in the situation. Was when you put yourself in the situation, 1169 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 1: some ship could happened. O J. Simpson. That you can't 1170 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: put itself in a sky. Okay, let me finish my point. 1171 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,040 Speaker 1: O J. Simpson. Got a cop on on that's working 1172 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: on this case, that that found the glove. Okay, wait 1173 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 1: a minute. That okay, that that said all kind of 1174 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: raised the ship on taple. Okay. He put himself in 1175 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: a position to get on stand to get uh totally 1176 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: made it look like a fool. And that's the reason 1177 01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: why O J. Simpson. If that one cop, if that 1178 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: one cop would have been alleviated from this whole thing. 1179 01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: O J. Simpson would have been the prison for the 1180 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,880 Speaker 1: rest of his life. But for two that's the only reason. 1181 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,720 Speaker 1: Two words. Let me tell you, let me tell you. 1182 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 1: If anyone looks at that case and see a cop 1183 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 1: come understand and say I plead the Fifth Amendment because 1184 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: it may incriminate me. If the cases shouldn't, the case 1185 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 1: should have been dismissed. From that point, he didn't two words. 1186 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: It was a lot of two words words. Was that 1187 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,800 Speaker 1: Johnny Cochran, No, man, that ain't it. That ain't need 1188 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: at all. If that cop wouldn't have been understand, I'm 1189 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now, O Jay Simpson would have 1190 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:40,120 Speaker 1: been in prison no matter I'm any lawyers. He yet 1191 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,800 Speaker 1: that's the only thing that that had on the floor 1192 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: had blood from one side of the sock to the other. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 1193 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:57,200 Speaker 1: did oj do it? Okay? Do it? Can't even that 1194 01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:02,520 Speaker 1: whatever it ain't got nothing? Then against bro, you ain't 1195 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: got nothing? Then, Willie, how are you think he did? 1196 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: This is why I think he did it? Okay, First 1197 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: and foremost, it's like book T said, no, no, no, 1198 01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,160 Speaker 1: don't you by now because I know what I'm saying. 1199 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm speaking about celebrity. I'm speaking about celebrity. For you 1200 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: to be a celebrity and you have a limousine driver 1201 01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: on the way sitting at your house waiting on you 1202 01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 1: when you're supposed to roll out. We all know that. 1203 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,680 Speaker 1: When the limo you're on the clock and you got 1204 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 1: to go to the airport, you forty five minutes late 1205 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: to get inside of that limo. You forty five minutes 1206 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: when you got to go to the airport. You gotta 1207 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,280 Speaker 1: be on you gotta be you gotta be at the airport. 1208 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Nobody knows where you are for forty five minutes. Nobody, 1209 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:56,720 Speaker 1: nobody knows. Think, think about right now, you got nine 1210 01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: You can go to the airport thirty minutes before you 1211 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: have to get on the plane and get right on 1212 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: that something that's true. But he got a cut on 1213 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: his hand, right, she had to cut on No, now 1214 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: he had to cut on his hand. Somebody bandits on 1215 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,560 Speaker 1: the flight back, not on the way going. Okay, so 1216 01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,240 Speaker 1: he had to cut on his on the way back. 1217 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Then he in the car. Okay, okay, with you, my wife, 1218 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: my wife, you just got killed. Okay, let's say you Okay, okay, 1219 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: So let's say you. Let's say let's say you was 1220 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: accused of killing someone. Right, you're accused of killing someone? 1221 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,520 Speaker 1: What you with a red A normal person get inside 1222 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: of a vehicle and threatened and take the police on 1223 01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: a low speed chase and threatened to kill himself. If 1224 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 1: he's in that is not something that I'm destract And 1225 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: we're talking, we're talking about you having They haven't even 1226 01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,160 Speaker 1: said they're gonna lock you up. At this point, you're 1227 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 1: just a person that they want to question. I just 1228 01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 1: want to and you're riding around think that they already 1229 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 1: they already had um took o J right now. Wo 1230 01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,880 Speaker 1: They talked o J when he came, when he came 1231 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: back from that point right there, Oh Jay was scared, 1232 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,600 Speaker 1: o JA. So that that's what I'm just Oh J 1233 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: was o J was scared. Say, man, you know they 1234 01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,240 Speaker 1: called you know, they called you the lam and you're 1235 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 1: getting the jail man. They go put the meeting and 1236 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,839 Speaker 1: he was hiding up. You know what. You know what 1237 01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: My thing is this if I was if you know, 1238 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,760 Speaker 1: if I was on the jury, I can tell you 1239 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 1: this here. If it wasn't for Mark Ferman, I would 1240 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 1: have convicted him. Do I think O J did it? 1241 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 1: O Jay had something to do with it. I feel 1242 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: like it's almost impossible. But there's no fucking way. Like 1243 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: I never called me for jury duty. But but the 1244 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 1: thing is, I don't never. I don't know because the 1245 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: black man gonna always be innocent to me, bro only 1246 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: and you know your family, unless he did unless he 1247 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 1: messed with an old lady. Uh uh, killed the kid 1248 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,680 Speaker 1: or raped somebody. Uh you know what I mean. Like, 1249 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 1: but but he get caught with with a pound of weed. 1250 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,320 Speaker 1: It's the ship man. It wasn't him. Well we weren't 1251 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 1: talking about talking about exactly, but this black guy. But 1252 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: this black guy, excuse me, this black guy's being accused 1253 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:22,320 Speaker 1: of killing this white woman. And clearly the guy, uh 1254 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 1: Goldberg or whatever the name over there right, you're Goldman 1255 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,840 Speaker 1: and Goldman, Oh the mob some money man like you 1256 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:35,519 Speaker 1: said gold Like, what what case? Y'all talking about? What 1257 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:42,520 Speaker 1: case he talking about? He's talking about the case? Yeah? 1258 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,240 Speaker 1: O J. Simpson, you know what O J said? He 1259 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 1: was guilty himself. How about that? I ain't gonna say. 1260 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: He said, you know, is it a book not that 1261 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,559 Speaker 1: that you go watch this? I know he said, if 1262 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,640 Speaker 1: I did, I know that, if you had, I know 1263 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 1: you would never do something like this. But let's say 1264 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: if you did, huh was accused of killing your wife 1265 01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 1: and you went to trial for double homicide. You it 1266 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,719 Speaker 1: was a trial that was exhausting and embarrassed your family, 1267 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: just tarnished your relationship. What you would you write a 1268 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: book say if well, like I said, if I had 1269 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 1: done it, I don't know if an arrogant killer, you 1270 01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 1: know what you know, I don't know if O J 1271 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 1: did it or not. But he's getting charged. My show 1272 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: had it. Let's get OJ on the show. Come on 1273 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: the show man and explain yourself. You know what I'm 1274 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now. If you get with him, 1275 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hold you out there right now doing 1276 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 1: the thing. He got his I think he's got his 1277 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,760 Speaker 1: own podcast as well. Yeah, he's doing it yet I'll 1278 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: do yours. He's definitely on Twitter, Yeah, I mean on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, 1279 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,680 Speaker 1: he's on to you out here myself. Ain't put you 1280 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 1: in a five star Willie will So, Jay Simpson, I mean, 1281 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean he's a killer, but he's he's still still 1282 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: you know what the thing is that gotta be you 1283 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: got it, You got it, gotta be in a man 1284 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:31,160 Speaker 1: we've done right, Dn't kill that dude. Man. You're in 1285 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame twice, two times as a solo 1286 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 1: single and your single and and tag team do. What's 1287 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 1: your brother? How many people has that? I think four 1288 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:49,320 Speaker 1: people people in the history of wrestling. Yeah, yeah, we're 1289 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,479 Speaker 1: like the four husman. Yeah, wrestling. So which came first? Uh, 1290 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:58,040 Speaker 1: not singles saying tag in twenty nineteen, Nona, um doing 1291 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,280 Speaker 1: it when my brother was one of one thing that 1292 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: I cherished that nine years being on the road with 1293 01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,599 Speaker 1: my brother having my back, uh, knowing that I could 1294 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 1: pretty much do whatever I needed to do just because 1295 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,439 Speaker 1: I had somebody watching me that was gonna protect me 1296 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 1: at the same time. And yeah, yeah, yeah, and um, 1297 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,080 Speaker 1: I always looked up to my brother as far as 1298 01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,759 Speaker 1: being like a like a superhero. But at the tag team, 1299 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,799 Speaker 1: we uh we set the bar um as far as 1300 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: going out there and representing letting a lot of you know, 1301 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: young kids say man, Harlan he is you know that's 1302 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the stuff right there. But yeah, yeah, yeah, singles running 1303 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: was awesome too. Never in a million years thought I 1304 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,400 Speaker 1: would be a singles wrestler. Um, not something I ever 1305 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: thought about doing. Into it happened. Um, But um, I 1306 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 1: was always say, preparation is the only luck you're ever 1307 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna have. You're not bad, You're gonna You're definitely gonna 1308 01:13:52,880 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: fail that that's trademarked. Yeah, but it's always been my 1309 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 1: thing right there, Man, everything that I've wanted to do 1310 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 1: in that business, I want to be the best at 1311 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,360 Speaker 1: it as well as I want my name the ring, 1312 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: you know, with the guys like Rick Flair and all 1313 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: of those top you know, flight wrestlers and I and 1314 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,680 Speaker 1: there again making it to the Hall of Fame and 1315 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 1: pretty much put a stamp on you know, I did it, 1316 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: you know, um at a certain level, even though sometimes 1317 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean not, you know, just like a lot of 1318 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: a lot of uh, you know blacks who you know, 1319 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: broke barriers, you know, such as Doug Williams, you know 1320 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: what I mean, they don't get talked about as much 1321 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: as they should. But um, you know, we know how 1322 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 1: good Doug was and and when he put put us 1323 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: on the map as far as a black quarterback going 1324 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,200 Speaker 1: out there and being able to do it just as 1325 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:52,160 Speaker 1: big as anybody that ever, you know, through that ball. 1326 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 1: That's what I thought about, Uh, you know, Doug Williams 1327 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 1: of the world. You know that's true. Man, Doug don't 1328 01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: get nowhere near the type of credit he should. I mean, 1329 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: it was such a stigma for black quarterbacks in the 1330 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,559 Speaker 1: NFL before Man and then you see this influx of 1331 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:12,120 Speaker 1: uh players Huh, I mean quarterbacks coming in, black quarterbacks 1332 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 1: coming in out. He don't get the credit that he's 1333 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, Doug Williams put us on the map. Um 1334 01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,240 Speaker 1: was was black quarterbacks Doug Williams, not that I know of, 1335 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah, that could be wrong, but yeah, 1336 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,680 Speaker 1: are you? Are you you have a relationship with any 1337 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,000 Speaker 1: of these other wrestlers that that we may know of, 1338 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: like the you know, wrestling has never been some something 1339 01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 1: for me that came up trying to make a lot 1340 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,760 Speaker 1: of friends. Uh. I just never thought I could make 1341 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: it to the next level having a lot of friends. Uh. 1342 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,760 Speaker 1: You gotta walk a certain way when you do just 1343 01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: about everything. Um, your reputation follows you all the way 1344 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 1: to the end in this in this business, in the 1345 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,320 Speaker 1: wrestling business. Um. So for me, I was always you know, 1346 01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 1: thinking about being and focus um my respect, you know level. 1347 01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I had to keep that intact more than anything, keeping 1348 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: everything from a business perspective, that right, there was something 1349 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I thought about, uh, more than anything. Um. Just like say, 1350 01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 1: for instance, my peers never saw me in a pair 1351 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,880 Speaker 1: of jeans throughout my wrestling career. You know, I never 1352 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:27,240 Speaker 1: saw me and I respect myself more than neighbors. You know, 1353 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 1: I had to respect myself even more so then than 1354 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,920 Speaker 1: they did in order to get it, you know what 1355 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean. So I put myself on it on a pedestal. 1356 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,360 Speaker 1: So I made sure used a certain way all the time. UM. 1357 01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,200 Speaker 1: I never just say, for instance, you know we're sitting 1358 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: here talking about putting yourself in a situation, UM for 1359 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 1: something to happen to you. UM just say, for instance, UM, 1360 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 1: to get to the next level, everything had to be 1361 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, done a certain way. Now, not not saying 1362 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: that I haven't done these things or not, um, but 1363 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,280 Speaker 1: there again, put yourself in a situation for something to happen, 1364 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,439 Speaker 1: UM to you. Now, a lot of the guys respect 1365 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,640 Speaker 1: me at a very very high level. Okay, we're on 1366 01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 1: the road. A lot of the boys know my wife. 1367 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: A lot of them like her. They might like her 1368 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 1: more than they like me. Okay, but we're out on 1369 01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,680 Speaker 1: the road, we're in a different country. I come through 1370 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,559 Speaker 1: the bar. I got a lovely little white woman with me. 1371 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: We go upstairs, whatnot go that? Come back down. I 1372 01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: go to the bar, Now all of those guys that 1373 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,879 Speaker 1: see me, they may not say anything, but the respect 1374 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 1: level because they know my wife, some of them, that 1375 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,720 Speaker 1: respect level is gonna way down. Okay. Now, I'm not 1376 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 1: saying that I haven't done that, But if I did 1377 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 1: do it, you ain't gonna do it. You understand what 1378 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not gonna do it. No, no, no, 1379 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 1: that's not That's not me. But I'm just saying, you 1380 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,519 Speaker 1: put yourself in a situation. I never wanted my respect 1381 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,320 Speaker 1: level to come down, So I never would put myself 1382 01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,760 Speaker 1: in that position for those guys to see me, that 1383 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:57,160 Speaker 1: respect me, that like my wife a lot more than myself. Um, 1384 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 1: for something like that to happen. Now, you know, I'm 1385 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,040 Speaker 1: not know why you know, Um, I'm not getting pushed 1386 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 1: like I was before. Man, Why they stopped pushing me? 1387 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Man? Why they don't like 1388 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 1: me anymore? Now? You know? So it's you gotta know 1389 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:12,360 Speaker 1: how to not put yourself in situations for ship to 1390 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: happen to you. That was my point that I was 1391 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,400 Speaker 1: trying to make earlier. Um. So for me, um, um, 1392 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm always about trying to think about how to 1393 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,880 Speaker 1: get this business taken care of and um, you know 1394 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 1: succeed more than anything. Yeah. Well Mike Tyson did not, 1395 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,800 Speaker 1: not that he did. But like I said, he put 1396 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: himself in a situation for something to happen. What was 1397 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 1: it he put himself in that situation or not? Um, 1398 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 1: he was in that situation with that young girl. Um, 1399 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,960 Speaker 1: and the girl was eighteen years My wife, Um, we 1400 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,360 Speaker 1: like I said, we married twenty years ago. My wife 1401 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 1: won the Miss Black America that year, and I could 1402 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 1: see my wife being naive in Mike tyson room and 1403 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,960 Speaker 1: some ship happening. Okay, that's why I say that my 1404 01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,479 Speaker 1: wife won that contest that year. Okay, she was in 1405 01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 1: all of the videos with Mike Tyson, you know what 1406 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why I say, you know, at 1407 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: eighteen years old, you are impressionable, man, especially with someone 1408 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 1: like Mike Tyson, the baddest man, the most powerful man 1409 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:19,000 Speaker 1: on the planet. Chose you for my young kids and 1410 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 1: like like brand and Bryce three and nineteen years old. Man, 1411 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: And from what I hear, like the girls and and 1412 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,840 Speaker 1: even you Chris, like the girls do, there was something 1413 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 1: awful man. So I can't give her a pass because 1414 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,680 Speaker 1: she's not giving her a pass. I'm not giving her. 1415 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,879 Speaker 1: But I know how I was when I was eighteen. 1416 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: I know how I was when I was eight I 1417 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,920 Speaker 1: nave well, well, I know, I know I got it. 1418 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: I went to prison man, being naive, like I said, 1419 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 1: naive because in stupid, because I didn't realize I could 1420 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: get five and ninety nine years in prison, putting myself 1421 01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:07,280 Speaker 1: in a situation, not knowing what the consequences could be 1422 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 1: if I got called. That's what I'm saying. I put 1423 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,439 Speaker 1: myself in that situation. Some sh it happened to me. 1424 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,080 Speaker 1: I got lucky, God bless me. I'm gonna give you 1425 01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 1: five years, give your chance to make this ship up. 1426 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,519 Speaker 1: But like I said, I still had to walk through 1427 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 1: that five years. I couldn't say, well, no, I did it, um, 1428 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 1: And I got called, and you know, nothing happened happened 1429 01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:32,840 Speaker 1: to me. I got called. I did it. Though I 1430 01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,559 Speaker 1: know I did it, I'm not, you know, running away 1431 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: from it, whether Mike did it or not. Um. Like 1432 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: I said, being in that situation led him to go 1433 01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:46,719 Speaker 1: to prison and met Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson's a friend 1434 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 1: of mine. I think this was a young black man. No, 1435 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,599 Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm serious. No. My thing is, like I said, 1436 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson is a friend of mine. You think I 1437 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 1: wanted to go to prison, I don't know. I don't want. 1438 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:01,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to see no black man in prison. 1439 01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 1: But like I said, we we as young, we as 1440 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,000 Speaker 1: black men, put ourselves in situation for ship to happen 1441 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,840 Speaker 1: us all the time. And we have a choice. No 1442 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,640 Speaker 1: that we do have a choice. You know why. We 1443 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 1: gotta have it now, you know why we you know what? 1444 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: You know what. I can't sit there and say that 1445 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:20,799 Speaker 1: because I could have ended up going right back to prison. 1446 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 1: I could have ended up going to prison. And no, no, no, 1447 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:25,840 Speaker 1: and I could have ended up going right back to 1448 01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,120 Speaker 1: prison if I, you know, kept putting myself in that situation. 1449 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 1: What we caught a break. No, no, I didn't catch 1450 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,599 Speaker 1: a break. We caught it, we caught a b No. No, 1451 01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,439 Speaker 1: I put myself. I took myself out of that. But you, 1452 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,600 Speaker 1: but you caused some breaks alone the way because you 1453 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 1: could have no, no, you could have went before that. 1454 01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no. I couldn't go 1455 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,080 Speaker 1: to prison before I could have gone to prison for that. 1456 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 1: But but the thing is, I didn't put myself in 1457 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,240 Speaker 1: position to go to prison because I wouldn't not that 1458 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,799 Speaker 1: stealing cars. I don't know what I'm saying. I wouldn't 1459 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,840 Speaker 1: hang out an we was a kid. We agree with 1460 01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 1: you that oftentimes, not just black people but black guys, 1461 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 1: but all people put themselves in certain situations that but 1462 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: we have a unique experience in this country as black 1463 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 1: men and boys and often and we are targeted. So 1464 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,160 Speaker 1: it's not just us putting ourselves in that position. Of course, 1465 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,759 Speaker 1: if you put yourself of course, if you put yourself 1466 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,240 Speaker 1: in that position, did you get there? Though? But how 1467 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,759 Speaker 1: did you get that? Of course, if you put yourself 1468 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: in that position, you know, you know, you know, it's 1469 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: your on your own. But let's let's make sure make 1470 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:32,160 Speaker 1: sure that we always acknowledge that we're being targeted and 1471 01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: we're being hunted, and that and that and that and 1472 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: that and that and that is a that is a 1473 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: large number. Understand this day. I preach that that gets 1474 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:48,400 Speaker 1: targeted and ends up in keep this wicked racist you 1475 01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: know what. That's all true. But I preach and teach 1476 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 1: us not putting ourselves in that situation, teach getting education 1477 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,160 Speaker 1: before going out there is slaying and dry. Yeah, I do. 1478 01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,800 Speaker 1: That's I teach kids, you know. Yeah, if you just 1479 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,120 Speaker 1: get that's that's that's that's some stuff that's gonna happen 1480 01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 1: to you. Ain't got me personally. I can't run towards 1481 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. They all condone it because like I said, 1482 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: my my, I got a son that's in jail right 1483 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: now and five years. No, No, that he did do 1484 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,040 Speaker 1: He didn't have. No, he didn't have to because he 1485 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,600 Speaker 1: got a dance he would have action. No, No, he 1486 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't have to. He didn't have to do it. But 1487 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,360 Speaker 1: he did do it. And now he's he's he's paying 1488 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,439 Speaker 1: the price war. And the thing is, no, I'm not 1489 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and say he didn't do He did 1490 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 1: do it. He fucking robbed somebody, He put a gun 1491 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: to somebody's head. Somebody could have got murdered, he could 1492 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: he could have been um facing the death penalty. And 1493 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I want young kids out there that's listening to this 1494 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,680 Speaker 1: ship to understand you put your fucking ass in that position, 1495 01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,120 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen to you. It ain't gonna be 1496 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: no game once they get their hands on you, because no, no, 1497 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 1: wait a minute, becut, the system is rigg to once 1498 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: you get in there to keep you in there, because 1499 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:05,439 Speaker 1: it's before you get in there, well it's okay, that okay, 1500 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 1: that isn't what that's that's totally missing the point, man, too, 1501 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,800 Speaker 1: of this want you when you get it. The point 1502 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: is when you get in there, you're in their hands. 1503 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,880 Speaker 1: You're there, when you get in there that they're gonna 1504 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: make some money off of you, and it's it's gonna 1505 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 1: be their job to keep you in there as longest 1506 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 1: they possibly can. That's the that's the whole freaking playing 1507 01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: to the whole end of the end game. And my 1508 01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 1: thing is to talk to young kids and young people 1509 01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: are not even just young people, people in general, especially 1510 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,320 Speaker 1: black people. As for its putting ourselves in that situation. 1511 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,519 Speaker 1: People always talk about these kids in Chicago. Okay, well 1512 01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: they're banging they this and that and whatnot with thought 1513 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,040 Speaker 1: some money at As for as just trying to get 1514 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,639 Speaker 1: some education, My thing is this, if you're gang member, 1515 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 1: if you if you're the head of the freaking gang member, 1516 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:58,080 Speaker 1: you you're the head of the game. You have a baby, 1517 01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,439 Speaker 1: all right, you think you really want that baby to 1518 01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,559 Speaker 1: grow up and be in the game. Now you wish 1519 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: that kid could grow off and do get a job 1520 01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,479 Speaker 1: and be a lawyer or a doctor whatever. But if 1521 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,920 Speaker 1: you ain't got access to that, I got you, you 1522 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean, You coming, you come, You're gonna 1523 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: be right down with me. That that's the system to 1524 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 1: keep us in that situation. That's why I'm talking about, 1525 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: you know, trying to you know, rise up and come 1526 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 1: up out of that kind of ship. And if if 1527 01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:24,920 Speaker 1: we just keep talking about it to the point of 1528 01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 1: where you know, it's it's that guy's problem. Is that 1529 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,120 Speaker 1: guy's problem is them against us. We ain't gonna never 1530 01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: teach ourselves how to come up out of that ship. Because, 1531 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: like I said, I'm I'm the youngest of eight. I 1532 01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,240 Speaker 1: lost my mother when I was four fourteen years old. 1533 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 1: I lost my father when I was thirteen years old. 1534 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to be I'm supposed to be one 1535 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,719 Speaker 1: of those statistics. I'm supposed to be there. I'm supposed 1536 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 1: to be here, you know, having this conversation right now, 1537 01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,680 Speaker 1: and will too, and and and a lot of people too. 1538 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. What if you get an education, man, 1539 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,639 Speaker 1: and you can fly, you can fly rocket ship, right, 1540 01:25:58,120 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: but they don't give you a job because of the 1541 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,120 Speaker 1: your skin. You know why? You know what I say 1542 01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: about that right there? I don't I don't have you 1543 01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,680 Speaker 1: know I can speak to that because I don't, you know, 1544 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,280 Speaker 1: have any of that. But I figured out how to 1545 01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 1: how to make it. No, no, I figured out how 1546 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:16,040 Speaker 1: to make it in life. No one gave me anything 1547 01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 1: that I gotta answer for that. Uh, stop sending our 1548 01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: kids to school to get these degrees and go big. 1549 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 1: These people who are pressing us for jobs, we gotta 1550 01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 1: we gotta start turning out. And that's by not putting 1551 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 1: ourselves in exactly what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about. 1552 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 1: We gotta start thinking about ownership instead of working. We 1553 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,439 Speaker 1: gotta get off that working ship because that that that 1554 01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,680 Speaker 1: is that is stopped working. I did I say that. 1555 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: I say that because you find something you you got 1556 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, we all we got talent, you know what 1557 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 1: I mean. I remember, you know, those days back in 1558 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 1: the Ryanstone rank and watching you know, Willie d debut 1559 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,080 Speaker 1: my Dick stage, and I'm like, that's the damn this song. 1560 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:03,680 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Well, you know what I mean. 1561 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,759 Speaker 1: Now I'm serious, but I'm like, man, this kid got talent, 1562 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then I said you 1563 01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: you you culture that you you you besides that, you 1564 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 1: really put time into that. And and the scar faces, 1565 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,719 Speaker 1: you know, Willie did bush Be all the ghetto boys 1566 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,519 Speaker 1: came out of it something that became worldwide. That's what 1567 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 1: this ship is about. Trying to figure out how we 1568 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:28,080 Speaker 1: can create something. And if somebody's gonna see that, I 1569 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 1: want to be able to duplicate that. That's what I'm 1570 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to create more, no doubt, no doubt, and and 1571 01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,920 Speaker 1: and and and then I'm gonna say it again. Man, 1572 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,240 Speaker 1: we we we we we caught a break. We were blessed. 1573 01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,600 Speaker 1: We were blessed. But there's other people and that that 1574 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,400 Speaker 1: come from the same walks of life that we have, 1575 01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:50,400 Speaker 1: that that are not in position to catch these breaks, 1576 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They end up in the 1577 01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:55,719 Speaker 1: penitentiary or they end up dead because there's no hope. 1578 01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing, right there a lot of times, you know, 1579 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: And and they hold myself with the well nobody explained 1580 01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and then that it can be done. Well, that's that's 1581 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:11,080 Speaker 1: why I wrote a book from prisoner promise. Okay, I 1582 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: don't want to hide something, nigger, and you put it 1583 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,080 Speaker 1: in a book, but no, no, no, no, My thing is, 1584 01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I ain't never wanted I want my story to be 1585 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 1: out there, so I ain't got nothing to hide. That's 1586 01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 1: why you speak of I'm saying I'm I'm a mom stuff. 1587 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that's the word of you don't 1588 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 1: want to try to hide something from me and put 1589 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,960 Speaker 1: it in a book. I'm a fine exactly my thing is. 1590 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,920 Speaker 1: But that's what the rumor. Rumor has it that I 1591 01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 1: wrote a book. I wrote a book to tell my 1592 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 1: story about how I got in trouble, how like you 1593 01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,919 Speaker 1: just said a second ago, not even more than fifteen 1594 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 1: seconds ago, about people giving up, all right and giving up. 1595 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 1: Ain't got no hope? Okay for me? My thing is, 1596 01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 1: you got talent. I knew I had talent. I knew 1597 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't a kid that was well. I didn't see 1598 01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 1: what I wouldn't say. I knew I didn't eat myself 1599 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,360 Speaker 1: as the kid on the corner too. I was thirty 1600 01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 1: or forty years old, hanging out in the neighborhood, and 1601 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,679 Speaker 1: I knew, I knew I wanted to do something more 1602 01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,720 Speaker 1: than that, all right? Did I know how I was 1603 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it? Having no education, with dropping out of 1604 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:19,559 Speaker 1: high school, Okay, going to prison years old, losing my 1605 01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: parents and and literally having no like skills. Okay, what 1606 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,640 Speaker 1: am I gonna do? How am I gonna make it? Um? 1607 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 1: I gotta figure it out, you know, going after going 1608 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:34,160 Speaker 1: to prison, you talking about um, you know, going back 1609 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,800 Speaker 1: and you know, backing over and over and over. UM. 1610 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,080 Speaker 1: A lot of times, you know, guys come out of prison, 1611 01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 1: young people coming out of prison, and they feel like 1612 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 1: somebody or him something they really do, they really do. 1613 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 1: They're the same ones that that go into prison feeling 1614 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:50,040 Speaker 1: like somebody. Well that that's true too. But for me 1615 01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: when I came out, the first thing I felt like 1616 01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I had to do was I had to get people 1617 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,920 Speaker 1: to trust me again. Then you go, what don't nobody 1618 01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:01,479 Speaker 1: trust me? But the thing is, no one should trust you, Okay, 1619 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:09,120 Speaker 1: So I mean come on, come on serious. So I 1620 01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: had to I had to fix that, run right there? No, 1621 01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,519 Speaker 1: I know, I had to fix that. I had to 1622 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 1: get people to trust me again, to get people to 1623 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,759 Speaker 1: trust me, man, And and nobody should trust someone. Should 1624 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,640 Speaker 1: you trust me? I'm a criminal watching someone trust me. 1625 01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't trust you. Goddamn right, you ain't gonna trust 1626 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,799 Speaker 1: So that that's one That's one of the biggest reasons 1627 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 1: why young people come out and can't figure out how 1628 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,519 Speaker 1: to go forward, because they feel like, I can't get 1629 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,519 Speaker 1: a job. But you don't know nobody want to give me. 1630 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna want to get You think someone wanted 1631 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,680 Speaker 1: to give you a job? You think someone wanted to 1632 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 1: do that. I asked for help when I when somebody 1633 01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:47,960 Speaker 1: put their hand out to help me, I took it 1634 01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:50,560 Speaker 1: and I my brother told me, I'm gonna help you 1635 01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 1: get a job. He said, no matter what that job 1636 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 1: he was don't get washing dishes, you know, sweeping floors, 1637 01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,439 Speaker 1: washing I don't get. He said, don't make me look bad, 1638 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,759 Speaker 1: all right, do the job to the best your ability 1639 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 1: to something else come along, he said, can you do 1640 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 1: that for me? I go, yeah. You know it was 1641 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 1: as simple as that. I got my brother to trust me. 1642 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 1: God gave me my brother, you know, because you know 1643 01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,360 Speaker 1: I got fired from that job. You know that my 1644 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 1: brother got me, which was a security god job out 1645 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,040 Speaker 1: of coming out of prison. They end up finding out 1646 01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 1: I had a record guy that my brother was working for. 1647 01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 1: You know, my brother act man. You think you can 1648 01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,200 Speaker 1: give my brother a job? You know? The first thing 1649 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 1: the guy asked, my brother, can you trust him? M hm, Well, look, man, 1650 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know about Brad, but I trust you. I 1651 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,400 Speaker 1: trust you, and I tell you what, Man, you have 1652 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 1: done a great job to put yourself in some good 1653 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,599 Speaker 1: positions and and and we we really appreciate everything that 1654 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 1: you have brought to the culture and everything that everything 1655 01:31:52,280 --> 01:31:55,720 Speaker 1: that you've done for wrestling. You're very You're very good dude. Man. 1656 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,719 Speaker 1: I've always liked your spirit. You got a good spirit 1657 01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,080 Speaker 1: and the way you looked out for my boys and me. 1658 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: We wanted to come to the shows and all of that. 1659 01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 1: Ship man, Bro, you second and no man freaking act bro. Bro, 1660 01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,360 Speaker 1: We're coming around and come back to man. So shoot, 1661 01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,280 Speaker 1: let me know when y'all need some tickets. Man, I'm 1662 01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:17,240 Speaker 1: not even ever get it. I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming. 1663 01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,799 Speaker 1: Give me. We'll be back next month, I think. Uh, 1664 01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,519 Speaker 1: we got got a couple of shows. I'm gonna be 1665 01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,439 Speaker 1: one one year and one of San Antonio and one 1666 01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: of Dollars. So we're kicking off actually a lot, actually 1667 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 1: a live tour actually kicks off in Houston. So what 1668 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,400 Speaker 1: y'are doing it? The thing? Um, it's gonna be too 1669 01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:39,720 Speaker 1: too damned the promoter it is. I'm just gonna be 1670 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,680 Speaker 1: there talking, just like you know you're gonna be that 1671 01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 1: talking to give you my money and you slam. Bro, 1672 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm done, man, ever tied. Man, I'm just tied body 1673 01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,160 Speaker 1: to that part of my life. But I tell you what, man, uh, 1674 01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: it's been a help and run man, it's been a 1675 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,160 Speaker 1: help of run. I appreciate you guys for having me 1676 01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: in man, because I'm all about speaking word. Man. I 1677 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:02,360 Speaker 1: like I hope they picked y'all off too much because 1678 01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,240 Speaker 1: my thing is, bro, you know what, we need more 1679 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:09,320 Speaker 1: of that man. We need more of that man because 1680 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,439 Speaker 1: our young people out there these days, Man, a lot 1681 01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,559 Speaker 1: of them they don't have anyone that they could look 1682 01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,519 Speaker 1: to that's walked in that position that they can say, hey, man, 1683 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,920 Speaker 1: if if like Willie D, if Willie D could do it, 1684 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 1: you know I could do this too. You know, if 1685 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:24,320 Speaker 1: to getto boys they came up out of the you 1686 01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,360 Speaker 1: know we could do this too. You know, book or 1687 01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:28,320 Speaker 1: T did it. You know, I want to be like 1688 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,519 Speaker 1: For me, I had a kid in McGregor Park one 1689 01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:32,519 Speaker 1: day and I went there and he recognized me to say, man, 1690 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 1: I want to be like you when I grew up 1691 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,880 Speaker 1: and I go out, I'm the kid that came from 1692 01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 1: South No. No, and that right there, you know, being 1693 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: a role model. I took that very very serious. Um, 1694 01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:44,680 Speaker 1: and that's why I talked the way I do. UM, 1695 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,760 Speaker 1: that's you know, like I said, that's why you know, 1696 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,960 Speaker 1: it's the spirited conversation we had as far as our 1697 01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:52,160 Speaker 1: young people putting themselves in situations. I don't want. I don't. 1698 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't ever want to see 1699 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, some young kids get you know, shot, they 1700 01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,679 Speaker 1: call again. I don't never want to see another George 1701 01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 1: Floyd incident. Did George Floyd put himself in in a situation? Um? 1702 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,519 Speaker 1: You know, talk about that for a sake. I don't. 1703 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,639 Speaker 1: I don't think George Floyd put himself in a situation. 1704 01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think. Um the way it was handled 1705 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:13,920 Speaker 1: helped to me. You know what I mean with that 1706 01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 1: have happened? Um, anyway, we don't know. Man, that man, No, 1707 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:23,960 Speaker 1: not what and that clastrophomics you know what, That's exactly 1708 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 1: what I'm talking said. That's exactly I agree. No, that's 1709 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. Finding ourselves in situations like that. 1710 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,960 Speaker 1: We gotta figure out how do we get ourselves out 1711 01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 1: the situations? Even if we find ourselves getting in a 1712 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,080 Speaker 1: situation like that, how do we handle it in that situation? 1713 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:42,960 Speaker 1: And why are we in such a russia take this 1714 01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,880 Speaker 1: guy to jail over a bill that that made you know, 1715 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:49,040 Speaker 1: it didn't seem like it was in the fist that 1716 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:53,160 Speaker 1: should have you know, it didn't merit the man. No, 1717 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not something to degree disagree old, it's something. That's 1718 01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is we gotta figure out how do 1719 01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:02,200 Speaker 1: we not get ourselves a situation like that? And if 1720 01:35:02,240 --> 01:35:04,400 Speaker 1: we do find ourselves a situation like that, how do 1721 01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 1: we get out of them? You know, what's what's what's? No? No, 1722 01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,280 Speaker 1: what's the what's the answer? The answer is well, no, no, no, no. Specifically, 1723 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,960 Speaker 1: what he's asking is, what's the answer to George Floyd's 1724 01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:21,040 Speaker 1: situation if once the police rolls up right and no, nothing, 1725 01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,880 Speaker 1: it's just as well as this, what's the answer for 1726 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: us to for for George Floyd to still be here 1727 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,360 Speaker 1: right now? Let's not let's not talk about what the 1728 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:32,400 Speaker 1: cop did. No, not, that's not what I'm saying. No, 1729 01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,360 Speaker 1: that's not what I'm said. Stop it that where's that 1730 01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:42,519 Speaker 1: twenty bill? That Okay, let's put the market on the No. 1731 01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 1: I understand that. But what I'm saying is we as 1732 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,240 Speaker 1: black people, we find ourselves in these situations a whole 1733 01:35:51,320 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: lot pers That's true, that's true. But I'm trying to 1734 01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 1: figure out. I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out 1735 01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:01,080 Speaker 1: the answer to how do we how how do we 1736 01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,840 Speaker 1: figure out? You know, someone like George Floyd, you know, 1737 01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:11,400 Speaker 1: him dying and him still being alive. Well, I think 1738 01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 1: that I think I think that the honest answer is 1739 01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 1: once the police rolled up, comply period. Well that that 1740 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:23,559 Speaker 1: is That's that's the right. Look man, look in now 1741 01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 1: here's why I say. You're not gonna beat the police 1742 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 1: on the streets. You cannot. It's their streets. I don't 1743 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,960 Speaker 1: give them what the game members say. They're the biggest game. Okay, 1744 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,160 Speaker 1: you can't beat the police in the streets. You fight 1745 01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 1: the police in the court. You know they're gonna win 1746 01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,240 Speaker 1: in the streets every time. So the thing the thing 1747 01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 1: to do is when they pull up and they do 1748 01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:43,760 Speaker 1: what they do, you know you already know how they 1749 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,160 Speaker 1: feel about you. You already know who they are. You 1750 01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,519 Speaker 1: know that M O so you know, the culture. So 1751 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,680 Speaker 1: when they pull up, hey man, just comply. And the 1752 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,599 Speaker 1: thing is what you want to do, what you wanna 1753 01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 1: do is you want to get through that situation. I 1754 01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,439 Speaker 1: always say that anytime you're dealing with the police, Like, 1755 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:04,799 Speaker 1: first of all, you want minimal contact with the police. 1756 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,559 Speaker 1: But if you have to come in contact with the police, 1757 01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,200 Speaker 1: then your job is to get them out of your 1758 01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: presence as soon as possible. You just want them or 1759 01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,560 Speaker 1: your presence as soon as. The longer they stay around you, 1760 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:22,760 Speaker 1: the greater chance you have of being violated. Yeah, yeah, 1761 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,559 Speaker 1: that's that's definitely true. That's definitely true. Now that's why 1762 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm you know, me personally, shouldn't have happened. No, 1763 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:36,680 Speaker 1: it shouldn't have happened. Uh take you know, get situations 1764 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,760 Speaker 1: like that to where we walk away from those situations 1765 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,479 Speaker 1: opposed to you know, getting the bullet of someone yelling 1766 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 1: on this or something like that. We confiscate bill and 1767 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,840 Speaker 1: let the man walk. It wasn't like he had ten 1768 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: thousand of him. He had one dollar bill. That we 1769 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,479 Speaker 1: don't know was if it was taking not taking mark 1770 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,639 Speaker 1: mark on and look at it. Take the twenty dollar 1771 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,200 Speaker 1: bill and put it in the evidence and told man 1772 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 1: could have still been a lot of the day they 1773 01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:04,719 Speaker 1: hadn't been a white guy. That's exactly what they would 1774 01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,280 Speaker 1: have been, what a situation it would have been hadn't 1775 01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,800 Speaker 1: been a black cop. He wouldn't have been dead exactly. 1776 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,400 Speaker 1: That's that's that's probably true too. Then my thing is, 1777 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,720 Speaker 1: like I said, like you said, complying, I totally understand that. 1778 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:19,040 Speaker 1: I understand him being class to phogic because I'm class 1779 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 1: to phobic. I understand that too. And that's not a 1780 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of ship, a little bit of car cramped up, 1781 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,400 Speaker 1: it's a lot went on, but it's no but but 1782 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:30,799 Speaker 1: he's that's that's a person. That's a person that should 1783 01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,000 Speaker 1: you still be a should still be alive. And on 1784 01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:38,000 Speaker 1: another just that, and on another note, if you have 1785 01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: those type of people policing our communities in our areas 1786 01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,640 Speaker 1: that have no no feelings or nothing towards us, no 1787 01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,880 Speaker 1: compassion at all towards us, they shouldn't even be well, 1788 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,920 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be on the force. They shouldn't be I 1789 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:56,000 Speaker 1: got a problem, shouldn't be policing there? Well, I got 1790 01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:59,280 Speaker 1: a problem. No, no, no, they shouldn't be policing period 1791 01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 1: because because when we when we come outside of our 1792 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,599 Speaker 1: communities are predominantly black communities, we're gonna face them, and said, 1793 01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,560 Speaker 1: they'll be sitting back just waiting at the you know, 1794 01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:09,960 Speaker 1: at the line, wait for you to cross that line. 1795 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,600 Speaker 1: As soon as you crossed that line. But it's a 1796 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:16,600 Speaker 1: it's a need to be. It's the same. It's the 1797 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,040 Speaker 1: same that the cops are for. With the cops are 1798 01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:27,280 Speaker 1: for slave patrol. Okay, I thought something different. I thought, no, 1799 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,559 Speaker 1: not the police. The one thing that I ate here 1800 01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:35,080 Speaker 1: more than anything with with the you know, the police. 1801 01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,200 Speaker 1: Stuff that happened with the police is you know the 1802 01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,360 Speaker 1: higher ups, you know, the people in government, you know, 1803 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,920 Speaker 1: even the people on the force. They say, you know, 1804 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:46,160 Speaker 1: they used the word bad apples, and then I hate 1805 01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,320 Speaker 1: that term bad apples. We got a few bad apples. 1806 01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,439 Speaker 1: And from what I've always known about the term bad apples, 1807 01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:56,360 Speaker 1: one one was small on the whole. Butch wasn't bad 1808 01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,000 Speaker 1: apples small the whole. But that ain't what Michael Jackson said, 1809 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:05,000 Speaker 1: Jesson one that apple don't father whole bunch. He's alive. 1810 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,320 Speaker 1: His hands was flying too. But like I said, and 1811 01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,400 Speaker 1: that's what I when they when they say stuff like that, 1812 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, we got a few bad apples. Yeah. Yeah, 1813 01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:18,479 Speaker 1: polices should be uh dealt with um on a on 1814 01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,120 Speaker 1: a broad basis, because that that is a big problem. 1815 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,800 Speaker 1: It is a it is a lot of racism in 1816 01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 1: certain police um. And and and if they is and 1817 01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,559 Speaker 1: then and they're not afraid to show it a lot 1818 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 1: of times, especially nowadays. And and I'm scared because I 1819 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,000 Speaker 1: got ten year old kids, you know what I mean. 1820 01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 1: Look at the Senate, y'all. Look at the US Senate 1821 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:46,120 Speaker 1: for follow races. Uh uh police, Well, that's that's that's 1822 01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,320 Speaker 1: that's that's a big part of the problems, part of 1823 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,280 Speaker 1: the problem even during slavery, I mean, you know, the 1824 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,439 Speaker 1: whole half. Well, that's why it was so hard to 1825 01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:58,160 Speaker 1: get rid of slavery. You know a lot of people 1826 01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 1: just when they think about slavery, the emancipation, all that stuff, 1827 01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 1: they only focus on Well, well, my thing is always 1828 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 1: my thing is you know, I don't understand it's for 1829 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,720 Speaker 1: a lot of politics because the one thing that that 1830 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,080 Speaker 1: really confuses me. And you know, I talked to a 1831 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:16,479 Speaker 1: lot of my my, my, my white friends about it, 1832 01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:21,800 Speaker 1: um as well, and I say, you know, Democrats, Republicans, um. 1833 01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,760 Speaker 1: You look at the makeup of them. Um, it's all 1834 01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: white on this side, and it's all white on this side, 1835 01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,320 Speaker 1: and they and they can't agree with anything. Okay, Now, 1836 01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,400 Speaker 1: just imagine if it was all black on this side 1837 01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,640 Speaker 1: and all white on this side, they really wouldn't be 1838 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,600 Speaker 1: to agree with anything. What is the problem here? I 1839 01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:45,160 Speaker 1: can't get that. I can't get not tell me tell me, well, 1840 01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 1: I tell me, tell me what you think, what you 1841 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,720 Speaker 1: think the problem? I tell you what I think. The 1842 01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:54,920 Speaker 1: problem is. I think that number one, that there's a 1843 01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,000 Speaker 1: there's a contest going on here, and I fight for 1844 01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,800 Speaker 1: supreme See, there's a fight for money and power. All 1845 01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,040 Speaker 1: of the seats that these people sit in. All of 1846 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 1: these politicians, the seats whether it's there's there's only a 1847 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:12,040 Speaker 1: certain amount of seats and either Democrats are gonna sit 1848 01:42:12,080 --> 01:42:14,400 Speaker 1: in that seat or Republican is gonna sit in that seat. 1849 01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,320 Speaker 1: Most of these seats are occupied by white males. And 1850 01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:22,080 Speaker 1: and so you have to think that yourself. It doesn't 1851 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:24,520 Speaker 1: matter how they are. They got the same type of mentality, 1852 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,439 Speaker 1: and that's the maintaining white supremacy and so and and 1853 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,240 Speaker 1: that is the difference. So they're fighting for power, they're 1854 01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,800 Speaker 1: not they're not. They're not fighting They're fighting for money 1855 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:38,519 Speaker 1: and power. They're not fighting for uh equality, Uh yeah, 1856 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,560 Speaker 1: you know, no, no, absolutely not. They're not fighting for equality. 1857 01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,680 Speaker 1: They're not fighting for capasci compassion, they're not fighting for righteousness. 1858 01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 1: They're fighting for money and power. And so that is 1859 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:53,640 Speaker 1: why when the Republicans are acting like uncivilized mutts, uh 1860 01:42:53,720 --> 01:42:56,599 Speaker 1: you know, and and passing these these gym crow type 1861 01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 1: laws and stuff, the Democrats are just sitting back doing nothing, 1862 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,240 Speaker 1: and they act like they get mad about it, but 1863 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,960 Speaker 1: they don't really do anything about it because they benefit 1864 01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,320 Speaker 1: from those same laws they had us. They share the 1865 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:12,240 Speaker 1: same mentality that the Republicans do. The Republicans are just 1866 01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 1: crud type. They're all the same, they're same members of 1867 01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:17,920 Speaker 1: the same gang. They're all in the same gang. But 1868 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:21,960 Speaker 1: the Republicans are more crud you know what a man 1869 01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:26,800 Speaker 1: want to be over the top. Democrats the Democrats. The Democrats. 1870 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,160 Speaker 1: The Democrats are the ones who who fake and act 1871 01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:33,200 Speaker 1: like that they're they're refined and you know, they're more 1872 01:43:33,479 --> 01:43:37,439 Speaker 1: that's a good theory. They just act they just act, 1873 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,200 Speaker 1: just act like they're compassionate and whatever. They're the same, 1874 01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,840 Speaker 1: they're they they're the same as that the Republicans. You 1875 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,720 Speaker 1: gotta ask yourself, all of these years, with all of 1876 01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:51,720 Speaker 1: this bad stuff that's been going on in America, with 1877 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,800 Speaker 1: all of this shooting and killing, the polis doing right now, 1878 01:43:55,760 --> 01:44:01,519 Speaker 1: where has the Democrats been happening? And then they got power? 1879 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,720 Speaker 1: We voted them in, so they got the power that 1880 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:05,840 Speaker 1: if they wanted to use it, they got power to 1881 01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,200 Speaker 1: do something. Yeah, but to do something. But where have 1882 01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,639 Speaker 1: they been? And even if you go all the way 1883 01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:16,880 Speaker 1: back to before the public the parties are changed over, 1884 01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:22,200 Speaker 1: even when even when blacks were Republicans, you gotta ask yourself, 1885 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,240 Speaker 1: where were those Republicans, you know at that time when 1886 01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,400 Speaker 1: the Democrats, well, you know, we're doing that. That's a 1887 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,320 Speaker 1: great way to look at it. I mean, uh, And 1888 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,639 Speaker 1: like I said, that's a that's a that's a that's 1889 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:37,240 Speaker 1: a plausible theory um because you know, for me, I've 1890 01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 1: always wondered, you know what I mean? You know, you 1891 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,240 Speaker 1: got both sides and they're all the same, and no 1892 01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,400 Speaker 1: one can get alone, no one, no one can try 1893 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,200 Speaker 1: to really get any works. They seems they seem like 1894 01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:53,120 Speaker 1: it's a rat races all the game the game. That's 1895 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,640 Speaker 1: why nothing is getting done because they're all on the 1896 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:59,439 Speaker 1: same page. You both is if you had all the 1897 01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,560 Speaker 1: power in the world, would you want to relinquish? No, 1898 01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 1: That's why I tell people all the time. You know, 1899 01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:08,759 Speaker 1: when when when someone got a business and you're telling 1900 01:45:08,840 --> 01:45:12,680 Speaker 1: someone you know she's running the business unless you had it, 1901 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, and then you got it? Did you got 1902 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,639 Speaker 1: out of power? You don't know how you would feel, um, 1903 01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 1: and when you gotta get it given up. That that's 1904 01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,360 Speaker 1: just the way people are. And it's just the human nature. Um. 1905 01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,360 Speaker 1: And people most of them aren't gonna want to give 1906 01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 1: it up. But but but did now, but then you 1907 01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,120 Speaker 1: got good people who don't mind giving it up. We're 1908 01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 1: gonna be appreciate. Thank you, man, beat the odds. Man 1909 01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 1: came out on top. Bless me, man, and we really 1910 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:41,960 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming to appreciate it and spend some time 1911 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,280 Speaker 1: with the ghetto boys. We are reloaded and we got 1912 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:47,960 Speaker 1: booked it till on the show and we talked a 1913 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of ship today and we really appreciate your time, 1914 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 1: no doubt, man. Appreciate your family. This episode was produced 1915 01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:57,960 Speaker 1: by Aching and brought to you by The Black Effect 1916 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and I Heart Radio.