WEBVTT - Monologue: Tech Skepticism Is Going Mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Media. Hello and welcome to this week's Better Offline Monologue.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host ed Zitron. Before I go any further,

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<v Speaker 1>if you ever want to reach out to me with the information,

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me all your secrets. I'd love to know them. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I wanted to talk about the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>gets me through doing this show every week and start

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<v Speaker 1>with the point that I was told when I was

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<v Speaker 1>told I should do monologues as to really make them

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just kind of a ran about how I'm feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>So for once, you're actually going to get one of

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<v Speaker 1>those rather than something I pre prepare all neatly and nicely.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's a bit self indulgent, well, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think you're getting with this podcast? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a dramatic creature and I love it. Anyway. Today's really

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<v Speaker 1>about what keeps me going through the grind and what

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<v Speaker 1>I think this work can mean long term. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>i'm literally, by the way a podcast they're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the computer and that there are people with significantly hardly

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<v Speaker 1>jobs and not trying to be too dramatic, but this

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<v Speaker 1>shit does kind of run you down a bit, if

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<v Speaker 1>only because a large part of my work comes down

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<v Speaker 1>to explaining at length why so many people are wrong

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<v Speaker 1>about something in a way that may threaten our entire economy,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of them are doing it, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>quite strange. I know some of you are going to

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<v Speaker 1>say that this is Brandalini's law, which talks about how

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<v Speaker 1>disproving misinformation tends to require far more effort than creating it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is different because we live in a time

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<v Speaker 1>where our markets have become part of a death cult

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<v Speaker 1>of short terminism, when nothing bad ever happens until everything

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<v Speaker 1>bad happens at once. Yeah, writing about this on some

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<v Speaker 1>level is therapeutic. It sounds a little deranged, But in

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<v Speaker 1>writing about forty five thousand words in the past two

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<v Speaker 1>months for both the newsletter and the podcast, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>my arguments and really gotten to a point where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finally happy with them since built building them. In April

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty fourth, real ed heads out there will remember

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<v Speaker 1>the two part episode I did about whether We'd hit PKI,

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<v Speaker 1>where I was on steroids because I got strap throw,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe I threatened the computer itself, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think I said, if I could ever find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to give the computer a strep throw, I'd do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I maintain that threat anyway. The upcoming three part which

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<v Speaker 1>I'll record this weekend and will go out next week,

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<v Speaker 1>is my guide to arguing with AI boosters, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed me to process my kind of potent frustrations with

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<v Speaker 1>their counterintuitive, thinly sourced yet loudly crowded, pseudo arguments, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the kind of the gas lating nature of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And at a time when very little else feels stable,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels nice to take the argument to people that

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<v Speaker 1>have built media presences or small fortunes off of misleading

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<v Speaker 1>people about what large language models are capable of. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I could say large language model correctly at that

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<v Speaker 1>point would feel a lot better. But I'm keeping it.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do find this all quite reprehensible, how they

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<v Speaker 1>emphatically and aggressively manipulate people into falling in line with

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<v Speaker 1>the narrative that AI was the future and that what

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing today is just a taste of the power,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than being obviously the result of diminishing returns and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing ever really happening. And I genuinely feel moral outrage

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these arguments weaponized at scale. I just don't like

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<v Speaker 1>people being liked to. I don't like having skeptics treated

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<v Speaker 1>with disdain, their works considered dangerous because they refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>immediately ingest clammy Sam Altman's latest info slot. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not like it when people are being told again and

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<v Speaker 1>again and again to ignore their eyes and their ears

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<v Speaker 1>about what AI can do and about whether chet GPT

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<v Speaker 1>is really that amazing. And I do not like that

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<v Speaker 1>so much data center sprawl has been created, so many

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<v Speaker 1>billions have been burned, so many environs poisoned, and work stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the most expensive software of all time can

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<v Speaker 1>propagate and to the exhausts a few hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>of venture capital and private credit dollars. And it feels

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<v Speaker 1>good to have my work reach a certain scale and

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<v Speaker 1>got there from telling the truth and doing so in

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<v Speaker 1>an emotionally honest way. I mean, who the fuck knows

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<v Speaker 1>what you actually think of me, But at least I'm

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<v Speaker 1>genuine in doing this. It's like eleven ten at night,

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<v Speaker 1>because this was the only time I could really get

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<v Speaker 1>this out, not even the effort, just the emotion needed

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. Anyway, my ranting aside, it feels good

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<v Speaker 1>to read headline after headline that we're actually in an

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<v Speaker 1>AI bubble because it means that on some level, the

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<v Speaker 1>work iron people like me other skeptics are doing, even directly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bringing an end to this abominable waste. I do, however,

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<v Speaker 1>believe something is growing out of this and out of

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<v Speaker 1>these headlines and out of my work, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>willingness of the media to accept skepticism, to actually give

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<v Speaker 1>space for it, and to more than just humor, but

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<v Speaker 1>actually begin engaging with these arguments themselves. Last week's relatively

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<v Speaker 1>despondent monologue was more a result of my exhaustion at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of that two month, forty five thousand word fest.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is that I have been on television

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<v Speaker 1>four times in the last week and a half, done

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<v Speaker 1>three different interviews, and I'm getting substantially more space to

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<v Speaker 1>explain my arguments in detail. It's not me boasting. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a good thing for everyone. This means that skepticism

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<v Speaker 1>can truly be mainstream, and there genuinely is this shift

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainstream, and this is one that opens the

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<v Speaker 1>door to an entire legion of people to do this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of meaningful, deep emotional and thorough analysis. If my

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<v Speaker 1>ideas can be mainstream, soaken yours. You just have to

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<v Speaker 1>be willing to keep consistent and unrelenting in your beliefs

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<v Speaker 1>and really do a thorough job, actually really look at

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<v Speaker 1>things in the cold, harsh light of day, be willing

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<v Speaker 1>to be skeptical but not brash with your skepticism, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually focus your energy on finding the truth, even if

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<v Speaker 1>that truth isn't great. If I'm completely honest. The Premium

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter this week, it started with me believing I had

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<v Speaker 1>a huge scoop. By the end of it, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't. I still find something interesting, though, because in

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<v Speaker 1>the process of chasing this down, I learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about GPUs eh. But anyway, the idea that my ideas

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<v Speaker 1>in mainstreaming is a huge deal because it means more

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<v Speaker 1>people are willing to consider that perhaps taking business leaders

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<v Speaker 1>might I don't know, be full of shit. And while

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<v Speaker 1>this is not a victory lap of any sort, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not taking one of those until it's time, and that

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<v Speaker 1>will be when open aigh or anthropic finally shuts down.

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<v Speaker 1>But the true victory here is that you have big,

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<v Speaker 1>serious publications writing stories about things based on my work.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wall Street Journal out of piece by Christopher Mims,

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<v Speaker 1>And yes I did inspire it, he said up on

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sky, and you can look talking about the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of inference increasing. This is a huge deal. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a major publication being willing to talk about serious skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that question the narrative that the entire market is chasing.

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<v Speaker 1>And Christopher Mems he also did that great piece on

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<v Speaker 1>data centers, sprawl and the costs and the capex. He

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<v Speaker 1>cited Paul Kudrowski. I'll get to that in future podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>But nevertheless, these ideas are breaking through to the mainstream,

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<v Speaker 1>and narratives can be broken, ideas can be picked up

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<v Speaker 1>and mainstreamed, and suddenly the world is willing to consider

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<v Speaker 1>true skepticism. An increased presence of tech and business skepticism

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<v Speaker 1>in the mainstream will be a net benefit to society,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an opportunity to hold companies accountable for the

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<v Speaker 1>products and problems they create. I also want to be

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<v Speaker 1>clear that I am not the first to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Alison Morrow at CNN has been leading tech skeptics since

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one, when she was one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>to call bullshit on the metaverse. By the way, but

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<v Speaker 1>the level of mainstream interest I'm seeing in my work

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<v Speaker 1>suggests that the world is finally ready to take this

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<v Speaker 1>more big time. If I'm honest, to make this a

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<v Speaker 1>more common thing you hear of rather than this effusive,

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<v Speaker 1>dumb shit clapping at anything, Sam Moultman says. And I

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<v Speaker 1>realize it seems unrealistic, but with enough public pressure, with

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<v Speaker 1>a fundamental shift in how we cover business and technology,

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<v Speaker 1>we can affect true change. I can't promise will change

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<v Speaker 1>everything overnight, but that will stop every calamitous waste of

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<v Speaker 1>money or colatomus. So I was about to say, but

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<v Speaker 1>if we make it harder to do this financially, waste

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<v Speaker 1>will bullshit quietly, We'll make it harder to do it

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<v Speaker 1>again and again. And it starts with accountability. Once the

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<v Speaker 1>AI bubble bursts, which started four years ago for me

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<v Speaker 1>when I started covering the bullshit of the metaverse, financial

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<v Speaker 1>crises have never been covered in this detail by the media,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least not so widely. And though I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the collapse of AI will be destructive for the tech

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<v Speaker 1>and industry in our markets. I think that for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time, I and others have cataloged the exact destructive

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<v Speaker 1>decisions and their consequences on multiple different levels. To fully

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<v Speaker 1>cover the AI boom does not require you just to

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<v Speaker 1>cover finances. It doesn't require you just to cover the businesses.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to deeply and meaningfully understand the people behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking Casey Newton suggested, I don't do that. This Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking with an actual software developer about a blog

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<v Speaker 1>you oat guy called Colton. He's fantastic, and about how

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<v Speaker 1>the whole myth of the ten engineer doesn't really exist

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<v Speaker 1>with AI. Talking to these people is necessary because this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just a movement that grew from financial misdeeds, but

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<v Speaker 1>it grew from a tech industry that's kind of disconnected

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<v Speaker 1>from reality. Breaking those illusions is necessary, and it's how

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<v Speaker 1>we stop these things happening again. The Great Financial Crisis

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<v Speaker 1>happened in a much less connective media environment of far

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<v Speaker 1>fewer means of distribution for independent critics. The mainstream media

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<v Speaker 1>opening their arms to business and tech skepticism is an

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<v Speaker 1>important opportunity to explain why this happened, how the market

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<v Speaker 1>became illogical, and what means we used to manipulate the

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<v Speaker 1>media into telling that story. Mainstreaming and education of how

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<v Speaker 1>narratives are built allows people to pull apart future narratives.

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<v Speaker 1>Teaching people to be skeptical of companies selling things is

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing and one that empowers people to make

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<v Speaker 1>better decisions with their lives. Now, I should be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>tech and business skepticism is not new. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>people doing it for twenty goddamn years. What is new

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<v Speaker 1>is the mainstream making this mainstream making financial skepticism. Mainstream

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<v Speaker 1>can change the world, and it can make the goddamn

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<v Speaker 1>Internet better. It can fix the tech industry at a

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<v Speaker 1>time when I don't think the tech industry has been

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<v Speaker 1>more shitty. And I truly love technology and it's brought

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<v Speaker 1>me love, joy, happiness, community and success, and very little

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<v Speaker 1>about what the current tech industry is focused upon feels

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<v Speaker 1>like it's done in pursuit of any of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I don't even know what the current tech

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<v Speaker 1>industry is focused on. There are companies doing interesting things.

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<v Speaker 1>I like framework, I like Anchor, I like seeing things

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<v Speaker 1>that are truly changing the world and changing the world

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need to be this magical, ridiculous thing. It can

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<v Speaker 1>just be making the world a bit more fun and interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't see anyone in big tech doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think thirty three percent of startup funding

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<v Speaker 1>going to AI is actually in pursuit of making anyone's

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<v Speaker 1>lives better, anyone more efficient, making humans better, or even

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm fucking honest, replacing humans. I don't think anyone

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<v Speaker 1>knows what they're doing. And I think where there are

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<v Speaker 1>could be exceptions or on the fringes in really deep

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<v Speaker 1>niche cases. I don't know, but I think the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of generative AI is kind of nihilistic. It's growth for

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<v Speaker 1>growth's sake, and it's the real detritus of the rot economy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a collapse is inevitable. I hope it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't as bad as it could be, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the inevitable consequence of taking software and hardware out

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<v Speaker 1>of the hands of people that actually use it to

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<v Speaker 1>do shit and putting it in the hands of management

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<v Speaker 1>consultants like satching Adella. These companies cannot be swayed by regulation.

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<v Speaker 1>The CEOs are too rich, their businesses are too entrenched,

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<v Speaker 1>and thus the info poison we must use is educating

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<v Speaker 1>as many people as possible in how to be skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of big text hype cycles and knowing the names of

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<v Speaker 1>people like satching Adella and most of us Suliman at Microsoft,

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<v Speaker 1>the people burning billions of dollars for no goddamnaries and

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<v Speaker 1>or clammy Sam Moltman, mocking them, pointing at them, calling

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<v Speaker 1>them what they are that changes the world, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>things better. And I'm touched by the amount of emails

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<v Speaker 1>I get from you. I'm genuinely blessed. I know how

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<v Speaker 1>hokey that sounds. Whatever you know me, I'm a dramatic fellow.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hear from so many of you that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what you want, that you want a better tech industry,

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<v Speaker 1>but you wont so want people to be more skeptical

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<v Speaker 1>of this one. And I couldn't agree more. We can

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<v Speaker 1>have a better world. I don't know how quickly we will.

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<v Speaker 1>There are times when it doesn't feel possible, but I

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<v Speaker 1>actually think it is. Anyway, this monologue has gone on

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<v Speaker 1>way too long. Enjoy the three part next week, How

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<v Speaker 1>to Argue with Nai Booster. It's based on the newsletter.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a lot of fun. Shoot me

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<v Speaker 1>an email, go on the subreddit, dm me on Blue Sky,

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<v Speaker 1>or throw me a slob on Goot. Thanks to zever

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<v Speaker 1>for giving me your time. I'm