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Speaker 2: going to be talking about a whole host of different topics,

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Speaker 2: Vance just had a meeting. This might be Advance heavy episode. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: about the economy and a few other topics. This meeting

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Speaker 2: that may or may not have happened. Jady Van says

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at the New City. I said, there's

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Speaker 1: I think that one of the essential people that I

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Speaker 1: this story is this is that this is not a

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Speaker 1: And when this list, and there is a list, and

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Speaker 1: She's dined out everyone that Trump wants her to dime

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Speaker 2: the flames of the conspiracy theory for years. They promised

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Speaker 2: The first is just back to the Ice recruitment, and

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Speaker 1: saying that Davin Newsom, I'm calling California in this special

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Speaker 1: session to repeal the Schwarzeneger era redistricting reform laws. We

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Speaker 1: will pick up nine seats. Right And when you look

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Speaker 1: at around the country, Democrats are in a superior math

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Speaker 1: position to be able to in a game of writing

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Speaker 1: each other out of the map and representation Democrats should

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Speaker 1: be able to do it more effectively than republican is

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Speaker 1: that being said, It's all terrible for democracy, and it

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Speaker 1: really calls upon a democratic leader to be able to

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Speaker 1: use maximum power and then have the wisdom to restrain it.

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Speaker 1: Once democracy has been saved, things have been set right

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Speaker 1: and the conditions have been set that none of this

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Speaker 1: can ever happen again in our lifetimes, our kids' lifetimes,

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Speaker 1: and their kids' lifetimes. Right, try to give it an

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Speaker 1: eighty year run before anyone has to deal with this

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Speaker 1: bullshit again.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's basically, I mean, that's basically what Abraham Lincoln

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Speaker 2: had to do, which was in some ways you can

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Speaker 2: argue that he abused the power of his office in

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Speaker 2: order to restabilize America, which we had.

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Speaker 3: I had Mike madrid On, who you know very well.

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Speaker 2: We talked about that extensively and that legacy, which I

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Speaker 2: think is not always well understood in terms of how

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Speaker 2: politicians talk about Lincoln. I want to go back to

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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party brand problem for a second, because while

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Speaker 2: I agree Chuck Schumer for sure has a brand problem,

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Speaker 2: Jeffries has a brand problem for sure, and those are

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Speaker 2: things that they're going to have to try to address

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Speaker 2: if they want to stay in power. I think the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party brand will be in the shitter until we

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Speaker 2: have a new presidential candidate who redefines what it means

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Speaker 2: to be a Democrat and what the party looks like,

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Speaker 2: and so much of the the degradation of the brand

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Speaker 2: is one part that Joe Biden is one of the

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Speaker 2: most unpopular presidents to ever leave office. And sometimes when

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Speaker 2: I say that, people in my feed get really mad

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Speaker 2: at me. But it is objectively true that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: was very popular. You can love him all you want.

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Speaker 2: I also love Joe Biden, but I think he's an

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Speaker 2: unpopular president and we have to It's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not that you you think he's an unpopular presien.

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Speaker 3: He is an unpopular president.

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Speaker 4: Like you ask the American people, Biden but Biden, but

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Speaker 4: Biden has a cohort and Democratic cult followers. It's a

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Speaker 4: it's a small it's a small it's a small number.

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Speaker 4: What I would say to those people and and listen,

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Speaker 4: I hear from I hear from you know, on on

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Speaker 4: my platform as well, and you know you'll get the

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Speaker 4: unsubscribes and you know, frankly, i'd take it down to

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Speaker 4: two subscribers rather than give an inch on this. But

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Speaker 4: you know, Joe, Joe Biden lost election on fundamental questions

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Speaker 4: of honesty. To Joe Biden, any A broke a promise

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Speaker 4: to the country. He put his selfish interest first. He

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Speaker 4: wanted to maintain power. And the most lunicrous thing I've

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Speaker 4: ever seen in my fucking life is the notion of

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Speaker 4: a of a great political party and it's leaders shouting

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Speaker 4: down every person who dared to say this is an

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Speaker 4: existential race about democracy. And you have an eighty two

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Speaker 4: year old guy in here. You can't walk up the

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Speaker 4: fucking steps, right, And and the idea that this was

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Speaker 4: a cover up, right, the idea that this was something

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Speaker 4: that was a hoodwink, get the fuck out of here, right,

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Speaker 4: This this happened in plain sight. This was this was

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Speaker 4: as cynical as anything, right that that has ever been

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Speaker 4: seen in American American life. And man, I'll tell you

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Speaker 4: right Trump and Trump is a vile pig without competition

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Speaker 4: right in the in the known universe.

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Speaker 1: But man, is he lucky? Man is he lucky? And

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Speaker 1: and so so the so the so, the most prolific

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Speaker 1: liar in American history, right, wins an election right on

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Speaker 1: questions of honestly about the economy, about the border, about

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Speaker 1: Biden's fitness, and and the takeaway by the pooh bahs

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And the Democratic leadership is we're

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Speaker 1: not going to change anything. And the people who voted

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Speaker 1: for Trump or racist, right. The the reality is is

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Speaker 1: when you look at zorham On Domi in New York, right,

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Speaker 1: him and Trump have something in common. They beat the

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Speaker 1: same guys. Yeah, that's a hundred beat they beat that.

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Speaker 1: They beat the same guys, right, And so so I know,

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Speaker 1: I know someone who is a Republican in the New

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Speaker 1: York I said, who are you voting for?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 1: Because my dommy right, He goes, he goes, I'm sick

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Speaker 1: of them playing chicken with me. Right, you know my

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Speaker 1: choice is Cuomo Adams the Warhan right, and and it's

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Speaker 1: in and it's and it's incredible, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: entirely possible that that the National Party will set up

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Speaker 1: right that game of chicken for the country again. And

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Speaker 1: and I know exactly how the country will will choose.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly how they they chose the chose the last time.

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Speaker 1: And so you are one hundred percent correct, is that

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Speaker 1: you're in a need to have a change agent who

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Speaker 1: can who can recast uh, what it means to be

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, right that this is not the weak party,

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Speaker 1: it's not the weird party, that is the American Party.

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Speaker 1: And uh and that's absolutely necessary. You talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: these these issues that are fundamental, uh to fairness in

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Speaker 1: the country. Secret police, jumping, jumping out of jumping out

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Speaker 1: of vans, immigration, Right, you need somebody if you can

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Speaker 1: articulate complexity in a way that all of our ancestors

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Speaker 1: like could understand it. Right. So the bottom line is,

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Speaker 1: if if it is the case that this generation just

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Speaker 1: intellectually can't comprehend in English the things that are grandparents,

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Speaker 1: great grandparents, great great grandparents, a group of people that

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Speaker 1: at leads statistically we're much less literate, I don't have

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Speaker 1: an answer for that, right, right, if they if people

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Speaker 1: can't kind of wrap their heads around, right, the concepts

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Speaker 1: of the country, right, that that that required that required

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Speaker 1: defending I have I have. I have nothing against Kamala

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Speaker 1: has Now. I think she performed to the highest level

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Speaker 1: of her ability. But how am I supposed to react

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Speaker 1: when when somebody says, well, she should get another shot here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: are you seriously right? You watch her on Colbert talking

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Speaker 1: about well, you know we have Well where has she

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Speaker 1: been for the last six months of this Right, husband

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Speaker 1: hasn't resigned from the capitulate law firm. He's a parger

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Speaker 1: in right, goes on Colbert. Right, the word salad is

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Speaker 1: utterly incoherent. And there's a faction at a time of

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Speaker 1: the greatest crisis in this country. It's just the civil War.

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Speaker 1: We got Eric Adams and and Andrew Cuomo in New

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Speaker 1: York and Gillebrand and Schumer's backyard. Right, we have incompetence

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Speaker 1: right everywhere we look, right, and we have a we

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Speaker 1: have a geriatric leadership that's out of touch. Right. They

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Speaker 1: din't coherent, right, they can't speak at a basic level

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Speaker 1: to any of these issues. It's outrageous, Right, It's why

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Speaker 1: so many Democrats across the country are are so angry.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what these words mean anymore. Conservative,

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Speaker 1: no conservatives in America, no fascist party rights.

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Speaker 3: Most of those words don't, I mean, don't fucking mean anything?

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Speaker 1: An I mean they mean they mean they mean nothing? Right,

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Speaker 1: So like I think that I see some and it

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Speaker 1: will fight that. You know, that's all the matters now.

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Speaker 1: Who will fight for the contrary? It will make us

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Speaker 1: who make in America? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Who can who can throw a punch? Who can throw

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Speaker 2: a punch? And who can't throw a punch? Is basically

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Speaker 2: just about the only thing I give a shit about,

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Speaker 2: which is why, like I have my weekly show with

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Speaker 2: Joe Walsh, which is usually one of my favorite shows

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Speaker 2: of the week, because I get somebody else that knows

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Speaker 2: had to throw a goddamn punch, and it's frustrating to me.

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Speaker 2: But I want to uh track back just a little

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Speaker 2: bit to the to the midterms, because obviously the Republicans

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Speaker 2: don't think they're in good shape to win the midterms

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Speaker 2: because they're trying to They're trying to fucking rig the

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Speaker 2: game with this Texas Jerry mannering scheme, and it may work,

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Speaker 2: it may not.

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Speaker 3: Vance.

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Speaker 2: Vance had a meeting today with Indiana, the leader of

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Speaker 2: the Republican leaders in Indiana try to get them to

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Speaker 2: redistrict because they want to kick Frank Mervin out of

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Speaker 2: his seat and it sounds like he failed based on

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Speaker 2: the early initial reporting of that, that they're not going

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Speaker 2: to do that. I don't know if that'll be the case.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if Trump leans on them or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But I spend a lot of time thinking about I'm

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Speaker 2: engaged in, like I'm more working on like thirty to

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Speaker 2: forty different races right now, and some of them are

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Speaker 2: are four can I'm primarying some Democrats in the House

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Speaker 2: right now, working on races where we're primary city members

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Speaker 2: of Congress because they don't think they're doing a good job.

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Speaker 2: I'm working on like the Michigan Senate race, where you know,

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Speaker 2: one candidate has perfectly lined themselves up as the establishment choice,

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Speaker 2: and then I'm working for another candidate in that race,

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Speaker 2: who I believe is a much better candidate.

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Speaker 3: And I think what you will see.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how the outcomes of those races will go,

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Speaker 2: but we're going to have some surprises, and we're going

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Speaker 2: to have some surprises because the establishment of my party,

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Speaker 2: and God love them, they are carving out I think

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Speaker 2: some choices that don't necessarily make a lot of sense

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Speaker 2: and are misreading where the Democratic Party electorate is right now,

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Speaker 2: and because of that, there's going to be surprises, and

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Speaker 2: that surprises will then further erode the standing of.

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Speaker 3: Power that they have if they don't catch up to that.

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Speaker 2: And I am actively telling everybody that I know in

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Speaker 2: those circles to be like mindful of where the Democratic

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Speaker 2: Party basewaters is. And then on top of that, and

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Speaker 2: I want to get your take on this because I

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Speaker 2: think you'll agree with me ed in my head that

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Speaker 2: I've been writing for the last couple of months, months

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Speaker 2: as I've watched Donald Trump's approval rating plummet and I've

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Speaker 2: watched Democrats improve in the generic ballot, because in everything

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Speaker 2: I see, Democrats are eight to.

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Speaker 3: Ten points up in the generic ballot right now. Whether

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Speaker 3: or not that holds, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Is when we take back the House, which I think

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Speaker 2: at this point I would say is likely, not a certainty,

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Speaker 2: but likely.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to write a not bad and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be roughly, don't assume that the Democratic Party is

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Speaker 2: back because we took the House back now, because there's

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Speaker 2: going to be a ton of people in my party

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Speaker 2: that are operatives, that are elected officials who are very

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Speaker 2: frustrated with how people have been talking about the party

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Speaker 2: and how people have been treating the party. And they've

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Speaker 2: taken every lump on the chin that I've had to

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Speaker 2: take too as a Democratic strategist, and I'll take every

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Speaker 2: single one of them, but.

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Speaker 3: They're going to go. We finally want something. We're winners again.

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Speaker 3: We're fucking amazing. The American people love us again. Look

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Speaker 3: at that we're back in power.

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Speaker 2: That will not be the case because that's the mistake,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, that the Republican Party made in twenty

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Speaker 2: ten because George W. Bush had crash the economy, had

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Speaker 2: gotten us involved in it forever war.

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Speaker 3: People were really frustrated with Bush.

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Speaker 2: They were mad at Obama for not fixing the economic

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Speaker 2: crisis fast enough and solving for it. And then the

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Speaker 2: Tea Party comes in and they win, and Republicans assumed

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Speaker 2: that they were back. And I think we need to

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Speaker 2: be very clear eyed that just because we take back

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Speaker 2: the House or pick up a few Senate seats in

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Speaker 2: next cycle, that it does not put us in a

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Speaker 2: position to win the presidential election two years from now

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Speaker 2: unless we nominate a candidate who can clearly articulate what

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Speaker 2: the vision for the Democratic Party is, what the vision

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Speaker 2: for the future of this country is, and is turning

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Speaker 2: the page on this twelve year era of really shitty politics.

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Speaker 2: And we need to do it without falling into a

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Speaker 2: trap of nostalgia where we're trying to get back to

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Speaker 2: the Obama era, because that's partially the mistake of the

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Speaker 2: Biden of the Biden term, which is and there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of good things that he did, but part

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Speaker 2: of the mistake was we went backwards to try to

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Speaker 2: go forwards, and that never fucking works in the long term,

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Speaker 2: my opinion.

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Speaker 3: We got to move in one direction, and that's forward.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, THEEP the there will be a mantra that

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Speaker 1: that plays out in this next primary where where Democratic

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Speaker 1: candidates think that they have to go out into say

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is a good president and and the Biden record,

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Speaker 1: but the Biden records gone to obliterately, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: here's here's real life. I don't I don't know when

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Speaker 1: in adult life we stopped talking in a way that

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Speaker 1: insulated each other from consequences, right right, cause you know,

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Speaker 1: following action, and if you jump off the roof and

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Speaker 1: it's a fifty story building, you're you're you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: make it. You die, right, you you you die, And

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Speaker 1: and there is no Biden legacy. It's gon right, it's

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Speaker 1: it's Trump that that's what the legacy is, right, It's

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Speaker 1: it's four letters Trump Biden won't have a library, won't

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Speaker 1: be able to raise money for for a library. Right,

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Speaker 1: the presidency has been obliterated. The era, right that that

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Speaker 1: came before this is gone, and it's gone for era,

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Speaker 1: it's gone forever. What what what? What? What has happened

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Speaker 1: in the last four years, right with with with a

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Speaker 1: decade of warranting is what the founders of the country

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Speaker 1: worried about. It's what. It's what the people who sustained

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Speaker 1: the country during its greatest trials worried about. It's what

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Speaker 1: It's what Martin Luther King and John Lewis worried about. Right,

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Speaker 1: And it's so we have a we have a fascist

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Speaker 1: regime that is consolidating power, abusing power, has fielded secret police,

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Speaker 1: has eradicated the ability for thirty percent of the country

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Speaker 1: to comprehend reality lies with the same level of absurdity

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Speaker 1: that Third Reich officials did. And so we have an

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Speaker 1: enormous challenge. And and nothing in that challenge involves going

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Speaker 1: back to any point in time in the nineteen nineties

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Speaker 1: or the early aughts. It's all over, right, the entire era, right,

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Speaker 1: that Franklin Roosevelt architected, and he talked about late to

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Speaker 1: the evening with the Canadian Prime Minister one night at

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Speaker 1: the end of World War Two. He said that this

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Speaker 1: world order that he envisioned, he said, nothing lasts forever.

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Speaker 1: His hope was that everybody who was alive on the

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Speaker 1: day the war was won, we'd lived long enough to

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Speaker 1: see the endurance of this world order. And the youngest

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Speaker 1: of those people are eighty years old, almost made it.

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Speaker 1: And so the American Republic, our politics such as it is,

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Speaker 1: did not survive the Baby Boomer generation and from a

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Speaker 1: revolutionary generation first fifty years of the country, of the

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Speaker 1: Civil War generation right, all of the trials, all of

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Speaker 1: the tribulations with the country did not make it through politically.

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Speaker 1: Were the baby boomers right? The Roberts Court right there,

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Speaker 1: this is the worst Chief Justice since Tanning. The presidencies

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Speaker 1: that led to the Troup presidency mostly Republican, but also Biden.

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Speaker 1: You had one competent resident in in a quarter centuries

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Speaker 1: time named Barack Obama. And there was a price to

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Speaker 1: be paid for that competency in the form of this

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Speaker 1: massive white backlash that that you know, this this massive

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Speaker 1: white lash right that that's played out over over these

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. So the country is in a

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Speaker 1: is in a is in a profound crisis. Profound presis

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Speaker 1: and and and who will speak to the depth of

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Speaker 1: the crisis and to the magnitude of the work to

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Speaker 1: be done to arrest it, to stop it, and to

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Speaker 1: take power away from the president, take power away from

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Speaker 1: the big corporations, take power away from everything big in

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Speaker 1: this country is a monumental political task which requires the

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Speaker 1: ability to speak clearly with passion, with conviction, and with

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Speaker 1: a determination to lead people with persuadion, not condemnation, not

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Speaker 1: shouting them down.

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Speaker 3: Well, can im in there?

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Speaker 1: This moment calls for an entire repudiation right of the

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Speaker 1: of the current leadership of this party.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can I Can I jump in on that?

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Speaker 2: Because what it also requires on top of that, besides

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Speaker 2: the right communicator and the right message and the right

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Speaker 2: policies and all that which is right, is a is

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Speaker 2: a democrat who can get elected with a fundamental understanding

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Speaker 2: of power and how to use it and what to

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Speaker 2: use it for both to help improve people but also

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Speaker 2: to sustain our democracy for a very long period of time.

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Speaker 2: To your point, you know, my kids, your kids, our grandkids,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, and have it last for generations, because this

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Speaker 2: version of the Democratic Party, of which I am a

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Speaker 2: proud member, even in these dark times, does not understand

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Speaker 2: how to use power and is uncomfortable with the things

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Speaker 2: that are going to be necessary to do. And you

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Speaker 2: hear a lot of people who are like, we should

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Speaker 2: add four more seats to the Supreme Court, and yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's right. And there's they'll say we should get

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Speaker 2: rid of the philibuster, and yeah, maybe that's right. I'm

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Speaker 2: not arguing against those things, but I always say that,

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Speaker 2: like eliminating the filibuster or packing the Supreme Court or

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Speaker 2: some of the other things that you hear, is step

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Speaker 2: one of like a five thousand step plan that needs

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Speaker 2: to be articulated and carried out fully.

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Speaker 3: Because if we do a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of half measures and we eliminate the filibuster, let's say,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to pass a new version of the

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Speaker 2: Voting Rights Act, and we're gonna, you know, we're going

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Speaker 2: we're going to pack the Supreme Court so that we

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Speaker 2: can get Roe v. Wade back, which are going to

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Speaker 2: be like the things that are right in front of

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Speaker 2: our face right that people are going to want to do,

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Speaker 2: and again, we should do those things in my view,

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Speaker 2: but we don't go full into taking away power from corporations.

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Speaker 3: To abuse our.

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Speaker 2: Democracy, to allow billionaires to continue to buy our democracy,

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Speaker 2: to not hold people accountable. You talked earlier about how

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Speaker 2: your new organization is going to be documenting what ICE

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Speaker 2: agents are doing and what's happening at these essentially concentration camps.

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Speaker 2: If you document and record all of that evidence, it

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Speaker 2: exists both for the future so that they may be

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Speaker 2: judged correctly in history, but it also exists so that

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Speaker 2: we can hold them accountable to the law to the

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Speaker 2: extent of our ability. Now I think Trump will probably

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Speaker 2: he'll probably pardon everybody on the way out the door,

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Speaker 2: I assume. But we need a democratic party that's going

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Speaker 2: to come in and make sure that people are held

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Speaker 2: accountable for the laws that they've broken. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I spend so much time talking about Epstein on the show,

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Speaker 2: because the Epstein thing pisses me off, because it's just

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Speaker 2: like the two thousand and eight financial crisis. Nobody's going

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Speaker 2: to be punished for this, Like Julae Maxwell's going to

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Speaker 2: get a parton from Trump.

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Speaker 3: Epstein's dead one way or another. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: he's dead, but he's dead.

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Speaker 2: And nobody's going to be held accountable for what is

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Speaker 2: massive human trafficking in the same way nobody was held

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Speaker 2: accountable for destroying the economy and ruining tens of millions

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Speaker 2: of people's lives in.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight. And I think the consequences of

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Speaker 3: that matter.

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Speaker 2: So the next version of the Democratic Party that's being

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Speaker 2: built right now has to use that power to fix

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Speaker 2: our democracy, to fix our society, to make a meaningful

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Speaker 2: impact to people's lives, and give them an American dream

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Speaker 2: to believe in and a government to believe in. And

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Speaker 2: that's going to require a lot of uncomfortable decisions that

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Speaker 2: Fox News will not like, and that they're friends at

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Speaker 2: cocktail parties will not like them, and that their favorite

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Speaker 2: Washington Post columnists will not like.

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Speaker 3: And I don't give a fuck about any of them.

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense.

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Speaker 1: The most important piece of legislation that starts everything right

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Speaker 1: towards the path down better is ethics reform legislation, campaign

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Speaker 1: finance reform, lobbying reform, clean it up for real, and

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Speaker 1: you start down from there. When you think about the

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Speaker 1: abuse of young people. Right, thirty two percent interest rates

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Speaker 1: on a credit card twenty percent interest rates. Right, these

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Speaker 1: are use toy rates. The power of the big backs,

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Speaker 1: big tach it all needs to be broken. And so

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Speaker 1: there needs to be a powerful reform era in movement.

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Speaker 1: And I want to make a point about something. And

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Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about politics today, and you know,

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Speaker 1: as you said, you're a Democratic consultant, and you're involved

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Speaker 1: in a lot of races, and you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: get to talk every day to people that appears in

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Speaker 1: the you know, business of running campaigns. And I spent

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Speaker 1: a lot of my career running running Republican campaigns. So

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Speaker 1: I've been a Democrat for years now, and i want

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Speaker 1: to say something of politics of symbolism. You know, this

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Speaker 1: Katari Air Force one that is one of the most

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Speaker 1: corrupt acts in American history that Donald Bensi's going to

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Speaker 1: be taking with them from the presidency on January twenty.

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Speaker 1: And I'm serious as a heart attack about this. Next

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Speaker 1: president orders the military seize that plane, put that plane

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Speaker 1: on a barge, and you drop that plane into the

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Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean off of more A Lago, and you use

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Speaker 1: the Antiquities Act to declare it the marine park. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's power, right, and and when And I would love

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Speaker 1: to be the White House chief of staff or spokesperson

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Speaker 1: for a mom who's a special government employee, to be

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Speaker 1: able to walk out into the news conference room and

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Speaker 1: with the preciple where's the plane, and I'll say the

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Speaker 1: plane is gone, Yep, the plane is in the Atlantic Ocean, right,

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Speaker 1: And and that's the end of the fucking plane and

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Speaker 1: on from there. And so Project twenty twenty nine is

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Speaker 1: fundamentally about making sure none of this ever happens again. Right,

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Speaker 1: there is no king in America, simple as that. And

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Speaker 1: we're not going to a bye one. We're not going

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Speaker 1: to tolerate one. Right, the corruption, right, the brutality of

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Speaker 1: this moment. Now, we talked earlier about that usaid and

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Speaker 1: food aid. I want someone to run for president who

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Speaker 1: can make this case. We the people of the United

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Speaker 1: States and our name, we are burning food aid that

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Speaker 1: we have already paid for, that we have already bought,

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Speaker 1: that we could more cheaply distribute. But instead the government

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Speaker 1: of the United States has chosen to burn it. And

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Speaker 1: when you add up the human costs at four years time,

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Speaker 1: there are fourteen million human beings around the world that

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Speaker 1: will not be alive, that would have been alive if

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Speaker 1: Kabala Harris was elected president. And here's the deal with

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Speaker 1: regard to the moral culpability. Bad news everybody, even if

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Speaker 1: you're a Kamala Harris voter, right, we all share it equally, right,

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Speaker 1: those fourteen million dead people, right because the bags with

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Speaker 1: the American flag, I'm the food eight are gone. Hey, Yes,

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Speaker 1: we share in that equally, right, we share the responsibility

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Speaker 1: for it. It has been done in our name, Donald Trump's orders. Yep,

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Speaker 1: it's uncountable. Morally, it's unconscionable, and it must be opposed. Right,

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Speaker 1: it must be repudiated in this, in this in this

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Speaker 1: next election. And like you said, when that repudiation occurs,

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Speaker 1: it will not be as DAP described getting twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: two the year of Chuck Schumer, Right, right, that's not

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Speaker 1: what it was. And so over and over again, the

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Speaker 1: access media has told the American people that results are

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Speaker 1: about one thing when they're about something else. Entirely have

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Speaker 1: celebrated the politicians, which has helped them maintain a grip

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Speaker 1: on power at the expense in the end of our

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Speaker 1: republic right of the great gift that was given to

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Speaker 1: us by the founders of the country and by the

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Speaker 1: people who redeemed the country. John Adams said the politics

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Speaker 1: was the science of happiness, and he made the point

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Speaker 1: over and over again that happiness was deeply linked to

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Speaker 1: the type of government that you lived under, which had

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Speaker 1: the power to amiserate you, to chain you, to kill you,

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Speaker 1: to search you, to seize your things. And so what

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Speaker 1: the founders gave was a republic of laws that was

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Speaker 1: greater than men. Yeah, and now we have a demagogue

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Speaker 1: in a buffume from the fucking Apprentice, surrounded by secafans

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Speaker 1: who holds the proposition that Trump is the law. No no,

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Speaker 1: and so we will transcend this second swordid error as

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Speaker 1: a people. And then we have to make sure it

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Speaker 1: never happens again. But don't be deceived for a second

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Speaker 1: into believing through one of the three thousand people on

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Speaker 1: with us right now, there's majority support for this. There

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Speaker 1: is not yep. There is not YEP.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's probably because we're coming up

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Speaker 2: on the hour and I unfortunately have to run.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise I could probably listen to you talk call Dave

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Speaker 3: Steve about this.

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Speaker 2: I think that's just a really good point for me

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Speaker 2: to put a button on it, which is, there are

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Speaker 2: a lot more of us than there are of them.

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Speaker 2: And I can tell you from my fora into right

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Speaker 2: wing media where I've been going on Fox and everything,

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Speaker 2: they act with a smugness, as if they want in

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Speaker 2: a nineteen eighty four style landslide. And I think they've

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Speaker 2: convinced all they're absolutely full of shit, and it comes

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Speaker 2: from a place of profound weakness. So just remember that

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Speaker 2: all that bluster, all that Donald Trump talking points, all

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Speaker 2: the fucking fawning on Fox.

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Speaker 3: News is weakness. And you can smell it on them

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 2: And I think you can especially smell it on them

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Speaker 2: right now with all the Sydney Sweeney stuff this week,

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Speaker 2: that is that it's bad for them, because that's all

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Speaker 2: that they can talk about right now.

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Speaker 1: Next time, next time you're on, Jesse Waters, tell that

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Speaker 1: punk I'd love to go on with them. They'll let

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Speaker 1: him know.

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Speaker 3: I'll let him know, let him know him my photoshops.

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Speaker 2: You might do what he did to me and a

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Speaker 2: photoshop of white dudes for Harris hat on it.

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Speaker 1: Ask him as good, ask Jesse Water. So if he

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Speaker 1: thinks he can handle me for ten minutes.

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Speaker 2: Steve, before we go, tell everybody who may not be

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Speaker 2: already following you, like where they can follow you and

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Speaker 2: stay it.

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Speaker 1: Step you can. You can find me on the Warning

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Speaker 1: right every day. You can find the Warning on all

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Speaker 1: the places you find podcasts and all that. And thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for having us, Mike, Steve, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I think this was a great interview and I think

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Speaker 2: it was absolutely worth the time.

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