1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: He is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive on Dale Lolley, he is Matt 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Williamson and well, lots of stuff to talk about here. 5 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: It's all happening is four o'clock on Tuesday. If people know, 6 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: that's the Golden Cons, the Witching Hour and the Steelers 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: earlier today making a number of roster moves, and that 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: would be right around noon today. They well, they released uh, 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Henry Mondu, they released Buddy Johnson, they released Carlos Davis, 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: also released his brother Khalil and if they called them 11 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: both at the same time as the guys, you're yeah. 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Um also released defenser backs Elijah Riley, Chris Steal and 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: Linden Stevens, linebackers Ron del Carter, h hamilcar Rashid de Lante, 14 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: Scott and James Walter's defensive lineman Carlos Davis, Khalil Davis. 15 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: As I mentioned Donovan, Jeter and Mando On offense, the 16 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: team released William Dunkel. Couldn't tell you what he looks like, 17 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: don't remember much about him. Adrian Ilich has green, John 18 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Leglue Ryan McCollum, running back Max Borgie, tight ends Kevin 19 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: Raider and Jay Sternberger, wide receivers Tyler Sneed, Tyler Vons, 20 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: and Cody White. They also waived injured Carlin's platel They 21 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: made a couple of trades and one that just happened here, Uh, 22 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: that just came through. Made a deal traded a three 23 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: sixth round draft pick for maleak Read and a seventh 24 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: round pick to the Broncos and Reads a guy with 25 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: starting experience in thirteen sacks the last two seasons, so 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that's an upgrade. Yeah, And then they just made a 27 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: deal for an offensive lineman us. Um, I haven't seen 28 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: the terms on that one, but it's Jesse Davis who 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: played the last four years with the Dolphins quite a 30 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: few snaps. I mean the last two years he's been 31 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: over a thousand snaps for Miami. Now they were a 32 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: bad offensive line. Um. I think he's a backup type, 33 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, but he also played nine hundreds, more over 34 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: nine hunds snaps a year before. He is thirty years old. 35 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: He must have came in the league kind of an 36 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: older guy undrafted. But the deal was with the Vikings 37 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: because he was a free agent after four years with 38 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: my sign a one year, three million dollar deal with 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: the Vikings. One and a half million of that was 40 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: signing bonus, So the Steelers are only on the hook 41 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: for him for one five million this year, right, So 42 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: that's not bad. I mean that's part of the equation 43 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: here as well. Um, he was sought after enough by 44 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: because he was working on a three year, fifteen million 45 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: dollar deal with Miami and a three year deal with Minnesota. 46 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: So it shows that the league values him. Is why 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm bringing that up. Um guard experience and right tackle experience, 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: so that versatility is import and has gone. So actually 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: he's not good. Yeah, there were some reports out there 50 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: that of who was gone and who was not. The 51 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: guys who were released to get down to the fifty 52 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: three men roster. Today we're Marcus Allen, Justin Leane, and 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Anthony McFarland Hagan still a Steeler. That one didn't make 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: any sense. No, I I didn't. That's why I didn't believe. 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, these the fan sites out there get the 56 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: information they retweeted. They I'll often times get fooled because 57 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: there are some fake accounts out Yeah, Rappaport with his 58 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: name spelled just a little. Uh, so you get caught 59 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: in those things. So that didn't happen. Um, just we 60 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: put this out there. All those names you just mentioned 61 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: still could end up with back with the team absolutely 62 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: because there's there's some moves are going to make her. 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Most notably demonte CAZy is going to go on i R. 64 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: This is good news, though, this is good news. He's 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: going to go on injured reserve. But he had to 66 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: be on a fifty three man roster, and so to 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: put him on in you're reserved with the ability to 68 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: bring him back this season, you have to have money 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: final fifty three man roster. That means somebody else is 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: coming back. Maybe McFarland's just waiting around for an hour, 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: maybe Alan, or it could be it could be whoever 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: not outside the theme. There could be more shoes to drop. 73 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: We don't know, but it's gonna be about roster. Spad's 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: gonna open up any minute now. Basically how long you 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: have to keep them to make that official. Um. Plus, 76 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: they have a whole practice squad to fill out now 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: that they do as well, and you can have six 78 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: veterans on your practice squad of any you know, they 79 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: could conceivably cut Cam Heyward and put Cam Heyward on 80 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: the practice squad. It doesn't It doesn't matter how much 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: you've played or anything different. The rules are just there's 82 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: no such thing as practice squad eligibility anymore. You know, 83 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: there's different phases. But so so three quarterbacks. The three 84 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are still on the team. Mason could get traded 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: at anytime. That's possible, you know. I mean, they did 86 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: lose some late round picks. I don't know what the 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Davis trade was yet, that has not been It could 88 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: be conditional, it could be four. We just don't know. 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: I mean, got a little light on late picks right now. 90 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: And that's you know, somebody mentioned, um, there was a 91 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: thing tweeted out. I can't remember who put it out. 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: It might have been over the cap about the number 93 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: of players, and I didn't I didn't see how many 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: years it went back. How many players that you've drafted 95 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: are still in the league. And the Steelers were last 96 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: with fifty seven and guys, well, that just shows how 97 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: badly they've drafted. And I'm like, they haven't had many 98 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: as many draft picks. They haven't got many in the 99 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: camp game. They well and they've been trading away fifty 100 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: fifth and sixth and seventh round picks to acquire players 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: and to make of Fitzpatrick trade. And you know, moving 102 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: up to get Devon Bush. So it's all relative. And well, 103 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: look at the Ravens are really drafting well. But the 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Ravens have they have way more picks, they should have 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: more guys in the league. Well, this brings me to 106 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: I know we're here to talk Steelers, but I can't 107 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: help myself. Do you see Kellen Mont got let go today, 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: as did they us the guard they took in that 109 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: draft and the other third round pick the Vikings had 110 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: like a jillion pick and they had no no sevenths 111 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: in that draft and they have like Derrissaw and nothing 112 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: else will speak to it. I mean talking about bad drafting, 113 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's just drafting the wrong guys and a 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: lot of them. Yeah, so I I mean that's all relative. Um, 115 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: you know the make a trade there the top of league. Yeah, 116 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, because if you 117 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: don't drafted well, if you don't have very many picks, 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: you're therefore not going to have as many picks as teams. 119 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: The Rams, for example, Okay, they don't have first, the 120 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: second rounders or first rounders, but they have nine, ten, 121 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: twelve picks in every draft. Ton of mid round picks. 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: They're them and the Ravens really work the comp get 123 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: really well when they end up with a lot of picks, 124 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: even you know the Patriots of you know, they'll trade, 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: don't keep moving down, keep moving down, inquiring acquiring more picks. Yeah, 126 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna have more guys in the league. Yeah, any 127 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: of perponage on that. If you look at all their drafts, 128 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's a lot of misses. 129 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: They're they're relative other teams. I mean, the Raiders just 130 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: cut last year's last year's first round draft pick, last 131 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: year's first round draft pick. There's a couple of guys 132 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: from that draft. I mean you mentioned Mond, you know, 133 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: he was a third You know, these guys rarely get 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: the acts that early. Actually, I don't mean, if I 135 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: don't want to talk, you harp on that over the 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: cap tweet. But amazingly it's not the Saints. The Saints 137 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: have like four picks a year. Yeah, they trade up 138 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: in their their high quality picks, but man, they don't 139 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: make many. Um so I guess what. I don't know, 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know. If you have this handy, who 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: is on the roster? Do we know who? Do you 142 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: want me to go down the list? I can do 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: it that way, man, I got I got it. Not 144 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: by new numerical order here, so he gets up to date. 145 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, this is up to date. This 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: is uh they got Mason, Rudolph, Pressley, Harvin Kenn you 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: pick it, Chris Boswell, m R. Bisky, Chase Claypool, Miles Boykin. 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: Can you sort it by position? I can't know, Okay, 149 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: George Chickens. I wish I could, but I was trying 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: to find a depth chart here. Yeah, that did that. 151 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they've updated their's. Uh no they have. Okay, 152 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: I can do it like that, so we can look 153 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: at it that way. Okay, So it's quarterback is for Bisky, Rudolph, 154 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and Pickett. Okay, no shock, there no shock there wide receivers. 155 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: Right now, let's just spend a second on each position. 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: The only thing that could change is a Roudolph trade 157 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: wide receiver. And now they're eight. There's eight though wide receivers, 158 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: So somebody, somebody's gonna get replaced there. Are they working 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: on a trade or are they're going to do something. 160 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Maybe they say, hey, Calvin Austin, you're going on I 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: or maybe they're working out something. Well, Anthony Miller still 162 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: listen on it, So don't worry about that. They have 163 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: seven is what they have? Seven? Yeah, which is still 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: too many. Still one too many. Is wondering if they're 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: working out a deal there seven for Boykin or six 166 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: for Boykin or Sims or somebody like that makes some sense. 167 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: Austin is currently on the roster though, yes, he could 168 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: go to I R like, is he potentially he didn't 169 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: think it was as bad. I don't think it's as bad, 170 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: but he I mean sorry, you didn't see him in 171 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: a single priest loaded the position. You could save a 172 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: spot that way. Yeah, tackle, it's Dan and Chook a 173 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: core for In addition to um no, they don't have 174 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Hag listed on here, so maybe he did get cut. 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: Did I miss that? Hag is not listed on here. 176 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. Yeah, he sted on here. 177 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: Uh this is com. This is on Steelers dot com. 178 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: H So that's still surprised. The offensive line is damn 179 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: more Kevin Dawson, Kendrick Green, Mason Cole, j C. Haws 180 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: and our James Daniels Chooks a core four. But again, 181 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna make some roster moves here and bring some 182 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: of these guys back. I mean, they're not gonna they're 183 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: not gonna roll into the season with with eight offensive linemen. 184 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna have more than that. Did you say Davis 185 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: or or is he on that squad there? I was 186 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: look I was trying to look up um Jesse Davis. 187 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: He's not listed on here yet. He's not listened yet. 188 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: But Haig is not either. Hag is not either though. 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: The tight end is Friar Muth, Gentry Connor, Heyward, running back, 190 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Najia Harris, Benny Snell, Jalen Warren with Derrik Wattet fullback 191 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: uh and then the receivers Deonte Johnson, Gunneralschewsky, Calvin Austin, 192 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool, George Pickens, Miles Boykin, Steven Sims. Pretty full room. Yeah, 193 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I bet there's another shooter. There's there's gonna be a 194 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: move there. You can't go with seven seven defensive linemen. 195 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: That's rare for them. Yeah, that's Hayward, Ogan job A, 196 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Lulu Louder, Milk, Wormley, Montrevius Adams, the Marvin Leel okay, 197 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: and that could stay the same unless Warmley gets dealt 198 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: or something like that. Now, again, the roster as we 199 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: sit here right now, the fifty three man roster doesn't 200 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: include the two new guys that they got that they've 201 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: traded for for So the outside linebackers right now are Watt, 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: high Smith and Tuska. Okay, so Tuska is gonna become 203 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the four, yeah, which is where he belongs. The inside 204 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: backers are Bush, Spillane, Jack and Robinson. Only four there 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: right now. Okay. They could remain at four though they 206 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: could stay Yeah, they could do four. Um. At cornerback, 207 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: you've got Levi Wallace, a Kello Weatherspoon, Cam Sutton, James Pierre, 208 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: and Arthur Millette. Again Lane is gone, folks. Yeah, it's safety. 209 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: Glad Milette made it. I know you had him out 210 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of on the on the fringe, and I thought 211 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: he was I thought he would be a guy that 212 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: would they could cut and bring him back, which is 213 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: probably true, probably true. Yeah, um, yeah, I thought he 214 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: was gonna be on the team. But yeah, right right 215 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: right at safety, then you've got Fitzpatrick, Edmunds, Norwood Kazy 216 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: for right now and he's gonna be gone, and Miles 217 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: Killerbrew so they could be in the market for another safety. Um, 218 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: I mean often they keep four. Ye, They've got four 219 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: right now and that's that's what they usually have. They 220 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: have four plus easy Yeah, okay, so yeah, So the 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: odd ones to me are, what's going on Hag? Is 222 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: he cut and brought back? My guess is he's back tomorrow? Yeah? Um, 223 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: why is there seven wide receivers? I assume one of 224 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: them they're talking can trade with or Austin goes to 225 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: an injured injury injury reserve. I don't think you go 226 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: into the season with seven. Um, I don't think seven 227 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: d lineman is a game changer. I mean, because Adams 228 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: is a decent player. That might just be part of 229 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: the plan. But maybe there's another shoe to drop there. 230 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: And is there any chance Rudolph gets moved? I think 231 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 1: those are the things to talk about and then practice 232 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot obviously, right, Um, I can't find any Haig stuff. 233 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing Hag on the roster anywhere, but I 234 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: don't I didn't see anything with him being released, So 235 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Um, I don't know. I'm not sure on 236 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, that's I don't quite understand if they 237 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: were to move on from him, because I think he's valuable. 238 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: I was shocked. Okay, now they've updated the story of 239 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Steelers make two trades, release five players. Okay, let's see 240 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: if that if that clears anything up. Um, I'm not 241 00:12:54,960 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: seeing the full releases here see him. I'm reading here 242 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: on Steelers dot com. Uh, Marcus Song, Justin Lane, Anthony 243 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: my Farland, first round of all the Okay, they also 244 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: released Joe Hagan Trent Scott and that was at the 245 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: bottom of the story. I had that umpire. Yeah, well 246 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: they were I'm looking at it as well, and I 247 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: kept scrolling, scrolling, scrolling like they were kind of talking 248 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: up their new dudes obviously, which I'm kind of excited 249 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: about the two new guys, but I would I would listen. 250 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Hag to me has played more snaps for 251 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: them than Marcus Allen, Justin Lane and Anthony McFarlane combined. Yeah, 252 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: Hegg's valuable to me. Yeah, And I was a little 253 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: shockolate glue. Maybe they thought they'd bury it there that 254 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: that's holly. Yeah, I don't know, I'm curious what happens 255 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: to him because I'd like to see him somehow get back. Um, 256 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: Davis is the new guy. Yah, Davison read the two 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: new guys. Davis's contract is more palatable than Haggs by 258 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: a little. Now. They only they two million dollars this year, 259 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: and for him to not be on the rosters, there's 260 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: a one million it's one million dollar capit and they're 261 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: picking up one point five on David. So it's it's 262 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: they get, they get. Yeah, so it's I doubt the 263 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: movie extra maybe it was. I think he counted two 264 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: point one million this year, so it cost him for dollars, 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: but they can still bring hag back. Yeah, so apparently 266 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: they like Davis more than hag though. Yes, I mean 267 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: that makes sense to me, were to trade it for 268 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: him otherwise it wasn't wasn't a salary cap move. Um, 269 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: but he has some position versatility like that. My guess's 270 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: head comes back. Yeah that'd be good. Yeah, that would 271 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: be ideal. But I'm not sure why you cut him 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: to begin with. That's that's the part of it. Somebody 273 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: had to get cut, and then they probably figured somebody's 274 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna pick up Joe hag I go where you just say, 275 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: you just say that, Hey Joe, we're gonna may maybe 276 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: they're not willing to trade you. We're gonna bring it 277 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Yeah, we're gonna bring you back tomorrow. And 278 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: and Casey goes on I R. Yeah, that could make sense. 279 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I almost I almost to me that that tells me 280 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: that Austin is probably gonna go on I R as well, 281 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: just to kind of hide him. Yeah, because you don't 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: know the end of the world. You don't necessarily need 283 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: him right now. You don't know what you have in 284 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: him exactly, just in terms of playing time, Like I 285 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: don't know if he can line up and play in 286 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: the NFL game because we can't see him do it all, 287 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: see any of that. And you know, Sims can you know, 288 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: boy can can? Yeah. I mean I think people would 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: be disappointed because they wouldn't see him, But it might 290 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: be smart to talk him away for a month or 291 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: whatever and go from there and work his way back 292 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah. Um, So that's the roster right now. 293 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: I expect that, as we just said, to change by Thursday. Um, 294 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: the guys, the guys, these guys will have the clear 295 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: waivers and then you can start bringing guys back and 296 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: making roster moves. And just to get this correct, we 297 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: pretty much have twenty four hours until practice squads are 298 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: getting filled up. Okay, okay, all this adds up to me, 299 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: except for maybe the Hague thing. I thought like Glu 300 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: would make the team. UM, that was my first initial 301 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean he could be back to Glu and McFarland. 302 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: To me, I would be shocked if they're not on 303 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the practice at least. Yeah, but there are more moves 304 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: coming here. They're not going to go with just three 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: out here, like four outside linebacker. I don't know if 306 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: safe eight total. Yeah. So I did a lot more 307 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: work on read than I did Davis, because that just 308 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: happened one minute ago. UM, a couple of read notes, 309 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, really productive and going back to college 310 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: to Nevada, a lot of sacks, a lot of production. 311 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Eight sex two years ago, eight sacks two years ago, 312 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: thirteen over the last two UM played over nine snaps 313 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: with them last year. And remember they traded von Miller 314 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: and Chubb has been banged up, but he's played a 315 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: lot of snaps in Denver. And they also had Shack 316 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Barrett there for a while too, so, I mean they 317 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: had a loaded edge group and he still saw the field, 318 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: which is good, not huge. He's like to forty. He's 319 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: a little on a light little lighter. Um. He has 320 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: dropped into coverage a little bit, but he's more of 321 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: an upfield guy. Um, he's pretty bendy, you know. I 322 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: think he's more of a quick twitch, explosive type pass 323 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: rusher us his hands really well, what I was really 324 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: looking at is what's he like on special teams? And 325 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: I just looked at snap counts. The only special teams 326 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: he participated in last year was kickblock, so they it 327 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't do it here or whatever, but 328 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: I assumed, no, he'll be remember the special teams and 329 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: that's not certain though. I mean he will be on 330 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: the kickblock team, I assume, which makes sense as a 331 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: pass rusher, but I don't know if he'll be on 332 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: kickoff punt. I mean you would assume a linebacker, I assumed, 333 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: but he wasn't, you know. But he was a starter 334 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, so maybe that's why they and they 335 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: were you know, had some other guys in and out 336 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: of the lineup that maybe they thought we can't put 337 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: him out there because if you lose him, he was 338 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: basically there three last year. I don't know what Fangio's 339 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 1: approached that is. Some teams don't play starters on special really, 340 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: but you assume a linebacker can do it. It's not 341 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: like taking a wide receiver or a running back and say, okay, 342 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna try him on special team. You don't know 343 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: if those guys could do it, or even a guy 344 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: like Weatherspoon is a cornerback, you know, okay, run down 345 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: and cover this kick. Well maybe not. Yeah, I mean, 346 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm assuming he did it earlier in his career. 347 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: I guess I can find out what his snap count 348 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: was earlier. But last year I thought it was not worthy. 349 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: He was only on cake block. Yeah, you know. And 350 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, once von Miller was traded, he you know, 351 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: it was a starter. Yeah, he's a starter. So that 352 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: that's not all super suprimosued. You guys they traded for today. 353 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're superstars, but they were both starters 354 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: last year, right, you improved your depth? Yeah, I mean 355 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: they both were eight nine snapper a year type guys, 356 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, for the last couple of years. So that's 357 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: you know, something there. I mean, there's a lot of 358 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: tape to evaluate on them. Would also say this that, well, 359 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: a certain head coach is now with the Steelers who 360 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: was with the Dolphins last year. So we know a 361 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: little bit about this guy. Good point, good point connections. 362 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: There no doubt about our offensive line was bad, but 363 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: he wasn't the problem. Yeah, he was fine. Yeah, you 364 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: can live with him, especially if he's a sixth guy. 365 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he sounds a lot like Hag to me, 366 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: right tackle guard experience. He is thirty. You know, it 367 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me that much with that five years that way, 368 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so that makes sense. We'll see. I'm 369 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: excited to watch those guys, but it might be more 370 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: shoes dropping. Oh, there's definitely more stuff that's gonna happen. 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Happened for sure. Um, you know, we'll see what happens 372 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: with with the rest of this is just continues to 373 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: shake out. This was this was not an easy cut 374 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean when I sat down yesterday 375 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: morning to to do the my fifty three man roster, um, 376 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, you don't know if you know all three 377 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: quarterbacks were going to be here. I mean I knew 378 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: they were gonna have three quarterbacks, but you know, it 379 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: just didn't know who those You know that you know 380 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: it was gonna be Mason rudof somebody bowl them over 381 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: with a with a trade offer for Peru. I don't know. Uh, 382 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: you didn't know what was going on with Caz some 383 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: of these other guys with the injury stuff. Um, you know, 384 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin doesn't have to give you any information on 385 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: injuries in the in the preseason, and therefore Mike Tomlin's 386 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: not gonna give you any information yet. Um. You know, 387 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: so you're kind of flying blind there in terms of 388 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: what you're seeing. You know, you kind of have to 389 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: guess a little bit on Okay, who's close who's not close, 390 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: based on what they're doing in practice or what they're 391 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: doing on the sidelines, things of that nature. So it 392 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: makes it difficult, and you know, we'll see what happens. Uh. 393 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: You mentioned with Mason Rudolph, that could happen to Jimmy 394 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: g situation. It's one less he's not available, he's not 395 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: getting traded somewhere he doesn't want to go. Yeah. He 396 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: I talked about this a lot on my ton Today's podcast. 397 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: Is originally when I said I saw the note traded 398 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: to clause, I'm like, oh, that's strange, but that my 399 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: my co host is a Niner. Guys said, yeah, that's 400 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: just so he can go where he wants, but they 401 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: absolutely still could trade him. Well. There was also the 402 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: reason Jimmy Garoppolo had surgery in March and not right 403 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: after the season, and that was because he didn't want 404 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: to be traded out of how weird does San Francisco 405 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: to where? He wanted to pick where he goes if 406 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: he does go somewhere, he didn't want them to saying, Okay, 407 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: you're healthy, we're gonna trade you to Baltimore just to 408 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: throw a name out there. I don't want to go 409 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Yeah. How weird is this? Though? For that situation, 410 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: I know we're here to talk stealers, but he doesn't 411 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: even have a playbook to take a single snap. And 412 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: now number two right, you know, the completely bungled that 413 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: part of it. Weird? Yeah, I mean, my buddy, that 414 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: was what the was a practice said his his normal 415 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: practice was he'd come out when everyone, do his own work, 416 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: leave before practice starts, go home. Yeah. It didn't even 417 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: go to quarterback meetings, so you know, he's not like 418 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: dialed in with the team right now, but they all 419 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: love him and he's he likes being there, and everyone 420 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: was happy singing come buy a or whatever for now. Yeah, 421 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: that's that's. Uh, it's a little odd. I've never heard 422 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: of such a thing. Yeah, that's that's a weird one. Um. 423 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: You can subscribe to snr's newest podcast, The Godfather of 424 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Sports and I was talking nothing but Steelers as 425 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: Severeigan on Steelers. New episodes drop every Tuesday and Thursday. 426 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: Subscribe today. Available on Steelers Mobile app, the I Heart 427 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: Radio app, and wherever you get your podcasts. Of course, 428 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: you can also listen to this show as well. Uh, 429 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break here. 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