WEBVTT - Fade This Episode 14 Conference Tournaments Part 1 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.759 Welcome everybody. It is the Fade This Podcast, our first 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:24.320 major college basketball postseason edition, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.040 We would like to welcome all the new listeners who 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.639 are joining us. Who heard they ran advertisements Drew for 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.400 Fade This on all the podcasts, so like Dan Patrick 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.080 and Club Shaysha and all of these podcasts have ads 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.839 now for us, so presumably we'll get some new listeners, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.800 so we're going to welcome them to get ready for 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:48.839 March madness. Yeah, maybe you. 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.600 Were listening to Caliperian John Wall on Points. 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.400 That's right, it gave you over to us. 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.640 Maybe a little Kentucky doubleheader podcast you have going. 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:02.040 On lumb five twenty or up in all that smoke, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.559 like all of those, I think they're running these ads 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.679 on so you know, I'm excited to have all those people. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.200 And you're probably going, well, what do they do on 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.920 Fade This. Well, here's what we do. We make predictions 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.399 about games, and we're pretty good at it. I know 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:19.720 we won't sound like it, but we had a big 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:23.039 year in football, did really well in the NFL, you know, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.920 fifty to fifty or so on college, but really well 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.640 in the NFL and college basketball. That's our zone. You know, 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.119 we are Kentucky fans. We follow college basketball probably more 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.480 than other people should. I actually did an interview today 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:43.320 with the Wall Street Journal about my college basketball knowledge. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.440 They said, we would like to talk to you about 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.600 something about college basketball. Would you like to know what 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:54.080 it was? And what was it? What made you send 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:59.680 the tweet Cream abdul Jabbar about Robbie of Ila's going crazy. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.120 Wall Street Journal is doing a profile of him and 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.080 they are sort of saying they he was like, did 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.720 you come up with the name Cream abdul Jabar? And 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.560 if you haven't seen the kid, you need to see him. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.480 There's a there's a white dude that plays for Indiana 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.959 State that looks like me when I was in high school. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.919 Just I was maybe dork here, maybe he was dork here. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.040 I don't know. And I said, well, I didn't come 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.160 up with it, But like somebody on my show did 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.280 a listener, and so I got to hear all of 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:35.360 his nicknames. We knew Larry Nerd, that one's my favorite. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:40.720 We knew uh dork Novitzky another good one. I also like, 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.800 he says the one he likes the most Robbie Avila 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.240 is Steph Blurry, but a lot with the blur go 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:49.239 with the goggles there. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:51.360 I'm just partial to the play up with the nerd 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.600 with the Indiana State Connection tess. 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.880 So he said. The reporter for the Wall Street Journal 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:59.280 said he loves it and that he thinks people like 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.239 him because they can relate to him, which I think 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:02.120 is probably correct. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:06.480 Yeah, because you can go to your local gym and 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.640 there's a Robbie there. That's why it's so weird to 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.280 see that guy your local gym on TV when you're 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.959 watching them play, and hopefully they go far into March 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.720 so that he can become the national sensation. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.920 You know, we're gonna, We're gonna. So here's what we're 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.799 gonna do today. There are thirty two conference tournaments. Did 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.080 you know there were thirty two conferences? I did? You did? Yeah? 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:26.800 How did you know that? 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.639 Because the link up pulled upset preview of all thirty two. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.960 I mean before you put that link up, would you 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.080 know there is Yeah? I couldn't name them or anything, 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:35.600 but yeah, I knew that there was thirty y. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:40.160 So we're gonna do this week the first sixteen and 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.720 if you listen the first final is actually I think 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.680 Friday night, this coming Friday night, and then there'll be 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:51.280 finals really every night for the rest of the next 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:53.240 nine days. But if you listen to this, you have 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.920 this week to get yourself ready for the sixteen finals, 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.119 and then next week we will get together and we'll 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:03.520 do the other sixteen. Now, most of these this week, Drew, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.760 I would say, are the non majors. You know, in 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.840 the tournament, they always talk about mid major teams, but 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:15.920 they never just say like non major. They have major 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.320 mid May But then they act like all these conferences 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:19.920 are mid majors. Some have to. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:22.599 Be not major minors. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.159 I don't know if we want to say minors, but 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.880 some of them have to be like low major or minor. 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.479 I guess yeah, And we're probably we're probably gonna do 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.760 some of these right here. 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:37.039 It's all right. These can be the most exciting sometimes 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.720 these bring the most thrilling, buzzer beaters, most competitive games 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.960 because they're playing for that one spot to get into 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:44.520 the big dance. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.000 That's right. So if you listen to this, you're gonna 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.359 be ready for when you go to parties this weekend. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:57.359 And in the background, the Atlantic Sun championship is on, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.840 You'll have things to talk about with. You'll be able 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:06.040 to go, oh, Atlantic Sun more like Atlantic Fun. You'll 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.400 be able to say things like that, and you'll be 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:09.039 the hit of the party. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.880 That sounds like my kind of party. Just go somewhere, 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.720 elsta around, talk a little a sun basketball? Is that 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.640 what you're doing this weekend? 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:19.120 Actually? I am going to at least one of these tournaments. 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.919 Oh have you picked? Gonna go through you? And I 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:24.000 have been to some of them. 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.480 There several t shirts. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.120 Went to the Missouri Valley Tournament one year. Arch Madness 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.680 that's in Saint Louis, Billy. Do you get Arch Madness. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.680 It's like the Saint Louis Arch. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.920 Oh yeah, I've been up in that thing, that small elevator. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.039 You gotta cram inside to get up there. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.560 Oh you mean the arts, yeah, not Arch Madness. Yeah, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.720 and that's I think the Arch is a huge let 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.320 Have you ever been? Yeah, I've been up there. Yeah. 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.400 My friends this was how this, you know. We I 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.720 was at a really cool fratorney and we were at 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.120 the Arch and our friends laid on the ground and 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.800 spelled out the fraternity letters and we took a picture 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.240 on top of the art well spring Breaks, it was 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:07.360 actually it was actually maybe on spring break. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.800 Yeah, getting wild. You didn't get any tickets, did you, 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:11.760 he finds. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.120 You know, it was before cell phones, so like we 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.640 had no way of telling them when we were up 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:19.320 there and when we were ready, so they just had 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.680 to lay in that position for like twenty minutes. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.800 That makes it more impressive, honestly, And I mean, did 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.840 you have a picture? Did you just do it for you? 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:29.200 Well? 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:30.640 He was Actually we had to do it on a 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.400 physical camera, right, so there was a physical camera. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.119 I'm not sure it ever got developed. Le's just getting 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.719 more and more dangerous. I like it now, but I 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:40.760 remember when we were at Arch Madness, our seats were 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.359 so high up in the arena. I think we were 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.720 higher up than the arch. Where did the Blues play? 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:46.360 I can't think. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.440 I wonder if the people that were walking around were like, 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:50.720 these dudes ever gonna get up in the shape of 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.240 cause it was Delta Sigma fied. If you think about 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:55.359 the fire, you have to cross each other, so like 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.160 one guy was laying on top of the others. 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.640 Wild spring Break, story Break, Delta five. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.320 Spring Breakers, like it was wild. I mean, I can't 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:06.880 if you weren't there, I don't know what to take. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:08.919 So we've been to that. You and I have also 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.120 been to the Big South Tournament. Do you remember that 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.360 in Ashville? I do for some reason. 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.200 I have vivid memories of where we parked, but not 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:19.320 the teams that played. 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.840 No, I'll tell you how you'll remember it. You remember 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:26.960 the president of one of the university was leading the 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.640 student section and took his shirt off. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.440 Remember that. That was like the craziest school president I've 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.160 ever seen. I haven't seen a lot of them, probably 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:36.040 three ever, but he was. He was acting like maybe 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.400 the most rabid student fan. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:39.800 Yeah, he took his shirt off and was in the students. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.000 I want to say. It was like unc Asheville or something, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.720 and he took his shirt off. And then I've been 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:49.120 to uh, I think you went to this too, the OVC. 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:50.680 I've been there a couple of times. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.600 Yes, we went in. So we've been to three of 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:55.720 these tournaments. 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:58.040 Throw in the sec that we'll get to later down 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.720 the road, but we're just we're not quite the two yet, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.120 but we hope to get there see them all. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:04.720 So So here's holding on. We're gonna get started now. 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:08.400 I'm going to name the tournament. Billy's gonna set up 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.080 the table for us. He's gonna tell us where the 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.080 tournament is in the top four seeds, and then Drew 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.760 is gonna give us a sleeper. Now, it can be 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:17.520 one of the you know, three or four seater. It 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:18.720 could be somebody off the radar. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.080 It could be someone completely pull out of a hat. 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:21.840 I don't know better. 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.840 And then we will pick our winner. So the first 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.080 one is the OVC. Now I have some breaking news. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.160 I'm going to be at the OVC turn for Friday night, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:33.160 so I already know. Billy. It's in Evansville. That's right 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.839 at the Ford Center. You going to the Ford Center. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.800 Duncan Kavanaugh and I are making the trip for the 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:43.760 semis Friday night. We decided not going to the finals, 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:47.880 just the semifinals Friday night in Evansville, Like like boys 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.480 do more. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.160 Games at the semifinals. You want as much basketball as 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:52.720 you can take in. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.000 If we didn't have a remote, I was gonna go 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.160 to the quarterfinals. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:57.359 That's the attitude. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.120 But we have a remote, so we can't do it. 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.320 So tell me a little bit about the OVC this year. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:02.599 How's it going who's in it? 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.000 Yeah, let me tell you the top four. It's Little 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.440 Rock and ut Martin at the top, and then Morehead 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:12.040 State in Western Illinois round out the three and four seeds. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.840 First of all, didn't know Little Rock was in the OVC. 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.760 Don't think Little Rock is in the Ohio Valley of America. 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.600 You said Ut Martin. I think they've been there before. 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.360 Morehead's been in it for a while. And who would 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.480 you say the other one was Western Illinois? I don't 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:32.800 think I know where that is Illinois, So thank you. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.600 I don't think any of the teams are in or 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.160 near Evansville, now, so why do you think the tournament 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.160 is in evans. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.920 Evans's just a great place, got the Lloyd Expressway, restaurants 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:45.920 right around the Ford Center. There a little eastn Mall, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.880 kind of the hub of If you drew a circle 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.880 around the whole conference, it would probably be right in 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:53.240 the middle. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.520 Okay, all right, so those are the favorites. Do you 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:56.840 have a sleeper on your rate? Now? 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.560 I do have a sleeper, although they might even be 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.440 the betting favorite, but they are the number three seed 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.560 playing an extra game, so it's not that good. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.199 They do the bracket where instead there's only like eight 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:11.360 eight eight teams, but they make it to where their 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:15.000 top two seeds are protected, so the bottom four play 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.600 and then they play the three and the four, and 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.280 then they play the one and the two. So so 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.680 so like, you don't want to be the three seed, 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:24.040 which which Morehead is? Right? 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:27.000 Yeah, but I'm picking Morehead. They're the best team in 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.960 the conference. They had just a little bit of a 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.520 losing streak, which obviously threw off the standings there. They 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.920 lost at Little Rock by two and had some injuries 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:39.320 in that game. You're obviously playing the extra day. You 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:41.440 gotta win another game. But I think they're the better team. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.920 So the three seed is winning the OVC. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:44.640 You're taking more hit. 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:45.679 I'm taking more Head. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.680 Preston Spradlin is the coach of Morehead and we're he's 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.960 our friend. He used to live here in Lexington. He 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.440 was Cala Perry's what was this job. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.160 I don't remember the exact role, but he was on 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:00.240 those those first. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.400 He was with John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins. And so 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.680 when you watch Morehead State in the OVC tournament, you 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:12.200 see Preston Spradlin, just think John Wall because they were boys. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.600 He should take credit for the player, you know how, 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:17.240 like Kenny Payne when he went to Louisville he used 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.760 like Julius Randall and some of the graphics. Moreheads should 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.920 just claim John wall and to Marcus Cousins and anyone 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.160 that was the UK when Preston's Bradlin was there. 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.760 Uh, Billy, I'm gonna pick Morehead as well because of Preston. Okay, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.960 here's something you don't know about Morhead. Drew and I 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:36.800 one time went to a fraternity house at Morehead. So, 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.440 like most of these stories about us going places, CBS 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.720 Sports and Fox Sports in back to back years hired 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.920 Drew and I to go to fourteen games in fourteen 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.040 days on fourteen campuses. We did it two straight years, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.640 a lot of games. It was a lot of games, 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.400 and so most of the weird places we've been are 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.280 from that. One of the games was Morehead and it 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.120 was when Kenneth far Reid was on the team along 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:00.679 with whatever that guard was. It was the year they 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.120 beat Louisville. Yep, we happened to be there early in 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.480 the year. They then beat Louisville I think in the 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:09.200 NCAA tournament and when the game was over. There were 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:10.920 some guys who knew who we were and said you 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.120 should come back to the frat house with us, and 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.760 I guess we were like, yeah, it'll be cool. The 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.079 thirty two year old goes to the brat house with 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:24.199 him with these guys, And we went to the frat house. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:25.680 And here's what I remember of it. It was me, you 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.800 and Chris Tomlin and you guys were drinking. I don't 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.880 drink a lot. And this guy just looked at you 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.839 and me and Tomlin and goes, hey, I know it's 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:39.240 gonna sound crazy, but like if we murdered somebody tonight, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.480 are you cool with it? No, I'm am I kidding 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:48.960 you cool with a little murder man. I think he 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.000 was asking if we wanted to actively participate, which we 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.880 did not be very clear. I at that point thought, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.640 I mean, I thought he was kidding. You know, you 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:05.680 can't risk him not being kidding. So I asked to leave. 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.560 And I remember this was a much younger Drew Franklin. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.640 Drew said, I feel like the nice yeh. 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:13.959 Yeah, you know, I have to participate. 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.200 There's other things we can do. So I think we 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.800 stayed for a little while and then we ended up 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.240 at I think the be Duves, which is the only 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:21.760 place to go. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.680 I mean we were giving a red pill and a 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:28.000 blue pill, and we went with the boneless wings. 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.960 We chose be Duves rather than you know, accessory to murder. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.600 So all of these are the reasons to pick more. Yeah, 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.439 we did go in there with intentions. We're on this 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.880 road trip, we have one night. We wanted to see 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.840 what Lst. Johnson arena and Morehead Basketball. Didn't expect someone 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.400 to explain how they know where to make a body disappear. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.200 He had a very detailed plan. It was uncomfortable. Yeah, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.080 he had clearly really thought about it. He was like, well, go, 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.320 I've got a truck. The bush hog's running right now. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.760 I mean it's in the back like and I think 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.720 he was just trying to see our reaction. But I 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.800 don't know. And if they're there, wasn't murder the night 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:08.080 that Moorehead won in two thousand and eleven. I know 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.800 the suspects to start if it's unsolved. 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.640 And we were at b Dubs from ten pm to 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:16.559 whenever they closed that night. We were not a part 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.679 of it, but it was certainly a weird experience when 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.120 We were just trying to take in a lot of 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.600 OVC basketball and for. 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.040 That go more ahead. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:24.960 I can't think of the three Sea cast that has 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.440 that morehead state analysis. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.080 Let me tell you guarantee you won't. You won't hear 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.440 that on the Damn Patrick's show when he previews the 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.320 the OVC turnament. All right, so one down, one down, 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:36.040 fifteen to go. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.880 We nailed that on. Just stop for here. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.000 What is the next tournament? I have the Big South. 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.640 That's right in high Point, North Carolina. The Big South's 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.800 top four teams are, believe it or not, High Points 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.000 got the number one seed. Okay, unc Ashville at two, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.320 there you go, Gardner Webb familiar name at three, a 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.840 lot of names, and Winthrop comes in at four. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.400 All right, so let's go through these. Do you remember, Drew, 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:03.200 just last year we went to the Hooters in high Point, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.960 North Carolina? Do you remember that? 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.840 Hang on a second. I feel like in the last 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.480 few years we've been to a lot of random wing joints. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:15.560 You to know why. We went to the Greensboro tournament 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.640 and Ryan just out of nowhere looked at us and said, 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.760 I want to go to Hooters like adamantly and he said, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.400 other than the one in Greensboro. Now my question is 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:30.520 where would. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.480 He You know, a lot of people keep like their 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.640 coaching waiting for ever the list, all this stuff in 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.160 their pocket. Ryan has his power Hooters power ranisms that 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.440 he updates in his pocket. 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:42.280 By the way, should you tell people about our Greensboro 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:44.600 trip or is that like not for a national pott? 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:45.240 Probably not? 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.080 Okay? All right, So we go to the We go 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:48.920 to the high forty. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.280 We've already put ourselves near a murder in our first tournament. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.080 Pretty hot fifteen minutes. Yeah. Uh. We go to the 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.520 high Point and it was during the NCAA tournament. And 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.920 the thing I remember about the high Point Hooters is 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.560 it's like Billy eight o'clock on let's say the Friday 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.800 of the NCAA tournament, oh New Wigan. They had no 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.040 games on none, none of the NCAA tur They were 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.800 showing a rerun of a spring training baseball game. That's 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.120 what they were showing at the high Point. Hoot. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:21.720 I remember Duke was playing Duke basketball not far away, 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.120 was active in a basketball game, and no one in 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:26.880 there even had any interest in asking. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.560 So I'm going to say to those of you that 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.360 may attend the Big South Tournament this year. Don't think 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.560 you can go to Hooters and see the action stay 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.160 in the arena. 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:40.560 Thinking back to that trip, that was a good time 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.880 in Greenville, Greensboro, Greensboro, excuse me, it was Greensboro. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.960 All right. So I have won quite a bit of 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:48.840 money this year. Well, first of all, what is your 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:50.320 what is your sleeper? 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.840 No high point, because they're not focused on any other 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:53.920 teams around there. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:55.200 Your sleeper is the one seed. 0:16:55.720 --> 0:17:01.520 Well, all right, I'll go h Presbyterian from way in 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:03.680 the back of the back. Didn't they upset someone earlier 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:04.159 in this year? 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:09.200 I think yes, Actually they beat Michigan State. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.399 No, it was there we go. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:18.399 They beat Vandyne wouldn't remember that the first game of 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.640 the year, they beat Vandy. That's exactly right. 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.000 So the bookend on their season, they're gonna they opened 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.399 the season by beating a power five. They're gonna end 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:27.720 it with the conference championship. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.280 Okay, So now as far as the pick, I'm going 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.480 to take unc Asheville. I've won quite a bit of 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:38.440 money this year gambling on unc Asheville and actually gambled 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:43.719 a unc Ashville Presbyterian game at once, So I am 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.960 I'm I'm all in on on unc Ashville and I 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.600 liked them quite a bit in this tournament. I think 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.960 they tied with high Point for the thing, but high 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:55.680 Point got the host, probably because of the hooters. I'm 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:59.199 taking unc Ashville forgot. I am Presbyterian too, just claiming 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.880 this is people should know. Since I'm you know, promoting 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.679 them and this is gambling, I should let people know 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:09.199 I am Presbyterian. Yeah, the Church of Christ team is 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:12.159 unfortunately not playing. So are you taking high Point as 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.920 your pick? No, I'm rolling Presbyterian. I see they're thirty 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.200 to one. I'm thinking about that win against Vanderbilt. Look 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.280 at the bracket when they When does Presbyterian open up? 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:21.760 And who again? 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.480 They've got a tough matchup against Gardner Webb, the three seed. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.560 Beat Kentucky many years ago with Billy. 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.600 Glass eight pm, Friday night, March eighth. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.040 I'm a little worried about the late start. You know, 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.440 we're early risers, those Presbyterians. But we'll be fine. 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.760 What's uh, what's like the defining characteristic could be in 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:39.960 a Presbyterian Well. 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.400 I mentioned this before on our show. But sticking with basketball, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.960 we only had half of a gym, and that's where 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:46.320 I learned to play. It's one thing that concerns me 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.399 if any teams want to get up and down with Presbyterian, 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:50.480 A little worried about how we'll play in the full court. 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.120 Your church only had a half court. 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.159 Yeah, well, and actually it was full court, but it 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.280 was a very small gym. 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.560 Oh, it was a full court, just condensed. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.640 Yeah, and then you know, gotcha, if there's a pot 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.640 luck anything going on, it goes in there first. 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:04.679 You have to know the full size. It does make 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.000 a difference, Billy. We had Ohio Valley Wrestling for our 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.960