WEBVTT - Bloomberg's Murphy: Wasserman Shultz Won't Speak at DNC (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Turning now to the Democratic a National Convention. It is

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<v Speaker 1>getting underway officially today. Hillary Clinton's campaign wants to portray

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<v Speaker 1>a unified Democratic Party in contrast to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>discourse we saw last week in Cleveland at the Republicans convention.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is getting tougher and tougher as calls grow

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<v Speaker 1>louder for cheerwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to step down immediately

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<v Speaker 1>rather than give a couple of big speeches and wait

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<v Speaker 1>till the end of the week to leave her post. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's put all of this in front of someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is following it very very closely. Are Washington d C

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau Chief Megan Murphy. Well, Megan, welcome back to the show. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy. In case anybody thought that the d n

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<v Speaker 1>C would have a boring convention, they were all wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Now and actually in just the last half hour, Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>Wassonman Shoulton, it has been confirmed, will not be speaking

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<v Speaker 1>at the convention and will not even gabble into the convention.

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<v Speaker 1>She is this is now which is become sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the overriding distraction from this message of unity of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats would like to project. We've had very extraordinary scenes

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<v Speaker 1>this morning, first with h speaking up front of her

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<v Speaker 1>constituents and actually you know, booing, chanting, And then we

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<v Speaker 1>had Bernie Sanders, Hilly Clinton's rival, also getting booed when

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<v Speaker 1>he suggested his supportership now turning their attention to voting

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<v Speaker 1>for Hillary Clinton and defeating Donald Trump. But yes, if

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<v Speaker 1>we thought Cleveland was a hot mess, Philadelphia is competing

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<v Speaker 1>right there up with it now, Maigan, And wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>you could describe what happened at this delicate breakfast in

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia with the Florida Democratic delegation and the congresswoman from Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>Wie Wasserman Schultz. So what happened was she had taken

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<v Speaker 1>to the floor to address her delegates and it broke

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<v Speaker 1>out into a series of both pro um washerman shild

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<v Speaker 1>chanting and against her and people saying she had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's what we saw, you know, it really visible.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Bernie standers addressed as well as to his

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<v Speaker 1>own supporters was equally stunning in that there's clearly many

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<v Speaker 1>of his delegates who were just unwilling to transfer their intense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, following behind him to Hillary Clinton. Now, to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair, that doesn't necessarily represent the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party or even you know, a large minority of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party. It's it's it's a base, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie supporters, it's his hardcore followers. But it's still just

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<v Speaker 1>shows we still have a very fractured party heading into tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>which is supposed to be all about, you know, drawing

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<v Speaker 1>a sharp contrast with the Republican message of gloom and doom.

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<v Speaker 1>They really wanted to put a positive spin on this,

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<v Speaker 1>a message of optimism, and they're having trouble getting out

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<v Speaker 1>of the gate. Well. Of course, what really seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>seal uh, Debbie Washerman Schultz's fate was the release of

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty thou DNC emails by wiki leagues on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>It showed pretty blatantly that party leadership was leaning in

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<v Speaker 1>support of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign during the Democratic primary. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie Sanders had complained about this for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people brushed it off. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>new you can tell us about the source of that

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<v Speaker 1>league about what people in the party are saying about

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<v Speaker 1>we this is politics. You know what enemy of Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>Washerman Schultz could have been involved. I mean, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the subject that's dominating the convention. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the actual source of that league, obviously there's a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of speculation about Russian hackers, people associated with

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<v Speaker 1>people supporting Donald Trump, sort of in the cyber world,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is intentionally happen and then released at a

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<v Speaker 1>moment that would have like maximum possible damage. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the speculation. The FBI I announced the days they would

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<v Speaker 1>investigate the hack. It's the White House is also looking

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<v Speaker 1>into it. And and look, I think but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a core feeling is people shouldn't write stupid things

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<v Speaker 1>and emails. I'm sure if you went back through the

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<v Speaker 1>r nteering as a candidates, I mean, Hillary Clinton has

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<v Speaker 1>had our own trouble with her own emails, and what

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<v Speaker 1>was revealed in those emails, as you said, was just

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<v Speaker 1>very overt biased towards the Sanders campaign as something they

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<v Speaker 1>had longed respected, as something they had long complained about,

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<v Speaker 1>agitated against. And there it was in in black and

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<v Speaker 1>white or in you know, text on the screen um

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone to see. And you know, his supporters feel jipped,

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<v Speaker 1>and they feel like it was rigged, and and there's

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<v Speaker 1>no question that they have ground to believe that given

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<v Speaker 1>what we saw on some of those emails tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what we can expect from today's opening of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>National Convention. So tonight we have a pretty mor key

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<v Speaker 1>lineup as of every night we're going to have this week.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Michelle Obama, we have Elizabeth Warren speaking. Both

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<v Speaker 1>of those speeches will be really closely watched to see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what they say in particularly Miss l Obama

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what he brings to the floor and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of how they're really going to look to her

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<v Speaker 1>to energize it, and and and and sort of bring

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<v Speaker 1>back the nostalgia of the best of the Obama years.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course we also have Bernie Sanders themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think there are still people who are somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit nervous about what he is actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay now. In his endorsement of Hilly Clinton, he

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<v Speaker 1>was very eloquent, he was very firm with his support.

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<v Speaker 1>He was you know, very gracious in that actual endorsement,

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<v Speaker 1>But it took them a long time to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a lot of supporters who are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that hall tonight, and whether or not he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be as both rodd in his support is

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<v Speaker 1>what everyone's going to be watching. Of course, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the pieces of tape, piece of video and running on

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Television today shows him saying quite adamantly, we must

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<v Speaker 1>elect Hillary Clinton. And we can understand that for many Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you may feel or think about Hilly Clinton, how

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<v Speaker 1>she got the nomination, you know, and ardent Democrat is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do everything they can to not have Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump occupy that seat in the White House. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The issues here though, is that in so many ways

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<v Speaker 1>this has been one of the true phenomenons of the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen cycle, which is that in some cases Bernie supporters

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<v Speaker 1>are actually more aligned with some and I emphasize the

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<v Speaker 1>statements some of the principles backed by Donald Trump. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's anti free trade deal, is it's this economic insecurity,

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<v Speaker 1>it's bringing um wage listing wages among the white working class,

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<v Speaker 1>addressing sort of inequality. These are themes that actually Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump talks a lot about as well. And people have

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<v Speaker 1>always Jonald Trump has been quite overt about saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>am targeting Bernie voters in those Russbolt swing states that

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<v Speaker 1>are going to make the difference, the Ohio, the Pennsylvania's,

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<v Speaker 1>even in Michigan's. You know, going through those states they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually have they have crossover effects. So what Hillary Clinton's

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<v Speaker 1>people really are focused on is how do we get

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<v Speaker 1>them on our side, first of all from up sure

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<v Speaker 1>optics optics perspective this week, but also from getting the

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiasm and the momentum behind her. It is something she's

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<v Speaker 1>as it was throughout the campaign. She just hasn't had

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<v Speaker 1>the enthusiasm that he has had, and that's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>really focused on. They don't believe they necessarily need all

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<v Speaker 1>those voters given the demographic advantage they have, but they

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<v Speaker 1>certainly want to build a groundshel enthusiasm coming out of convention.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, look at the polls this morning that we've

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<v Speaker 1>had and Donald Trump is up five points in one

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<v Speaker 1>of the poles that this morning, so they know there

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<v Speaker 1>is really everything to play for this week. Terry mccauliffe,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the governor of Virginia former Democratic National Committee chair,

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<v Speaker 1>said that, well, there's no evidence that anything was done

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<v Speaker 1>that affected the actual nominating process of going back to

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<v Speaker 1>those emails and the d n C. But he also

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<v Speaker 1>said that people should be fired over this email leak.

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<v Speaker 1>Will that distract from what goes on at the convention.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that this is going to be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a Milani at Shump type moment in the

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<v Speaker 1>sense of we came into that, you know, Cleveland convention

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<v Speaker 1>expecting it to be newsy. We didn't expect this one

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<v Speaker 1>to vias Newsy. But the news cycle is moving so fast.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they're really hoping is, now that Debbie Washman

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<v Speaker 1>ChIL has formally given up her role, they have almost

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<v Speaker 1>a sacrificial lamb to offer up over this scandal and

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<v Speaker 1>people can move on. They can draw a line, and

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<v Speaker 1>they'll try to reset tonight. They've got to lose this Warren,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a great speaker, Michelle, as we've discussed, but

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<v Speaker 1>they will overhang the rest of the convention. People are

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<v Speaker 1>certainly going to try and make it you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are going to try and make it overhang. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of Bernie's supporters are going to continue to agitate about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think they will be able to reset more

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<v Speaker 1>because in this crazy cycle. The news cycle just moves

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<v Speaker 1>so fast. What does Hillary Clinton have to do this week? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What is she what? What is her goal? What? What

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<v Speaker 1>would be a win for Hillary Clinton? Last week, Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's challenge was appearing presidential and convincing the American public

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<v Speaker 1>that he actually could hold the job as commander in chief.

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<v Speaker 1>That was his task. That is less of her struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>More many people believe that she can be presidential. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not her issue. Her issue is likability and true humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>The issue with her always is she just is not

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<v Speaker 1>connecting with some of those voters she needs to connect with.

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<v Speaker 1>They still don't know who she is, even after all

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<v Speaker 1>this time in the public life. What she really needs

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<v Speaker 1>to do is inspire people. She's got over the highest

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<v Speaker 1>hurdle of whether or not people think she's she's she

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<v Speaker 1>can do that office. For her, it's an issue of

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<v Speaker 1>winning back voters trust, making them believe that she is

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<v Speaker 1>a person of integrity and honor and can move this

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<v Speaker 1>country forward in the right direction. That's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>her challenge and send her challenge all along. Get those

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<v Speaker 1>favoritabilities up, get more people behind her, and really draw

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<v Speaker 1>the sharpest of sharp contrasts with Donald Trump over issues

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<v Speaker 1>like the plan for the economy, their plan for national

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<v Speaker 1>security present an optimistic vision for America's future, not a

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<v Speaker 1>pessimistic one. Thank you very much. Megan Murphy, Bloomberg's a

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<v Speaker 1>Washington bureau chief, giving us details about the Democratic National Convention,

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<v Speaker 1>which begins today in Philadelphia. Featured speakers include Elizabeth Warren,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Obama, and Bernie Sanders. I'm pim Fox, along with

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<v Speaker 1>Kathleen Hayes and this his Bloomberg Radio