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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. As far as the conferences,

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Speaker 2: we see some things that make absolutely no sense. When

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Speaker 2: conferences like schools on the West Coast in the Big

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Speaker 2: East and Big ten has thirteen schools getting paid. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I say that to say, it's all everything is

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Speaker 2: derived around football and the conferences is just going crazy.

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Speaker 3: No, they ain't they going money business.

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Speaker 2: So I say that to say, is there ever any

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Speaker 2: way possible that you foresee Jackson State being in a

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Speaker 2: power conference at some point, Tom.

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Speaker 4: I would like to see that when we're ready. We

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Speaker 4: got to be ready now when you start jumping conferences,

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Speaker 4: and I don't want to just jump to the baby conference.

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Speaker 4: If I'm gonna jump, let's bunge a jump. Let's do

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Speaker 4: the dog on thing. Okay, So I gotta get the traviss.

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Speaker 4: I got to get Travis's there too, Okay, up front

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Speaker 4: on both sides, offensive defensive line with some depth, because

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Speaker 4: that's how the big boys will get you.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: They can't mess with you in a skill position. Because

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Speaker 4: we had a quarterback that could spend it. We got

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Speaker 4: receivers that could go, dbs that could go, linebackers that

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Speaker 4: could bang and cover. Where they get you.

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Speaker 3: Is right here in the trenches.

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Speaker 4: Because now when they rotate, they rotate, and you they

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Speaker 4: got eight heat seeking missiles coming, and you may have four,

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Speaker 4: so soon later you're gonna wear down. So you got

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Speaker 4: to beef that up if you want to compete with

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Speaker 4: the big boys.

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Speaker 3: But you you would like that open, I won't that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want what conference would you want to

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Speaker 2: be in?

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Speaker 3: I know it don't matter.

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Speaker 4: Somebody a conference that is gonna make sure that we

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Speaker 4: don't have a struggle no more, because everything is a struggle.

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Speaker 4: Everything is not enough, everything is less than. Everything is

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Speaker 4: like thereof it's gonna be a conference that can put

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Speaker 4: the whole school on that.

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Speaker 3: We straight.

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Speaker 1: That SEC would be big. It could be big twelve two.

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Speaker 1: I mean facing that you see, it's like this the biggest.

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Speaker 1: This is the biggest.

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Speaker 4: And when you start talking like that, you gotta answer

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Speaker 4: with the house.

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Speaker 3: So that was you. You got stadiums, you gotta have facilities.

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody come on, man.

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Speaker 4: I want to get to if I want to talk, it's

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Speaker 4: easy coming in here like this.

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Speaker 3: You said playing the big boys.

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Speaker 1: And I know one of the things you touched on

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Speaker 1: recently was the money games true and the the sperries

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Speaker 1: and that can you elaborate and explain to people because

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Speaker 1: when we see a let's pick a pick up a

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Speaker 1: random school.

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Speaker 3: Let's say you guys play Alabama.

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Speaker 4: No, no, you just saw Alabama State play against UCLA, Right, okay,

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Speaker 4: big dog. I don't mind that, But tell the kids

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Speaker 4: what it is. I'm playing for money. I'm playing so

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Speaker 4: that we can pay for this, pay for this. Don't

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Speaker 4: act like you got a chance, cause you.

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Speaker 3: Know you don't.

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Speaker 4: And then if you plan for money, do real business.

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Speaker 4: So you getting five hundred thousand or five hundred and

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Speaker 4: ninety thousand whatever was reported what you called and check

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Speaker 4: and see how much a charter flight is two charters

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Speaker 4: because you got one for the team and one for

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Speaker 4: the band. Okay, going that California. Now you've got hotels

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Speaker 4: and all that, all those accommodations and probably two nights

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Speaker 4: of food and all that. That's probably six meals. That's

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Speaker 4: the be an upward of seven hundred, eight hundred to

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Speaker 4: a million, but you're getting five ninety.

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Speaker 3: So you took a l and took a l going

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Speaker 3: and getting bet done.

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Speaker 4: Literally, So to me, if I put my kids in

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Speaker 4: a situation where there's no win and this is detrimental

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Speaker 4: to their health, I'm selling them out. We big on

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Speaker 4: that terminology in African Americans.

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Speaker 3: I'm putting you in a.

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Speaker 4: Situation where I, no, you're not gonna win, and I'm

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Speaker 4: not even getting handsomely compensated for it.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem.

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Speaker 4: But you have the same situation when another school goes

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Speaker 4: to Nebraska and play and they get one point four

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Speaker 4: one point seven. Another school goes to Penn State and

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Speaker 4: go to one of these other schools and they get

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Speaker 4: one point five or they get one point three, they

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Speaker 4: doing better business. To me, isn't the value not in

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Speaker 4: the school that could deep me? It's in the school

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Speaker 4: that I'm gonna beat because I really just play the

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Speaker 4: setup game just to beat you.

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Speaker 3: Right, If I'm paying you, they mean I need to

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Speaker 3: whoop you. Yeah. Right. When a boxer.

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Speaker 4: Pays another boxer, they paying him.

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Speaker 3: To what whoop it?

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Speaker 4: It may whether they ain't gonna pay you if his

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Speaker 4: purse is a twenty million and he paying you fifteen millions.

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Speaker 3: But no, no, he's gonna pay you significant less because

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Speaker 3: he knows he gonna whoop you. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It don't make sense to me. Man, the numbers just

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Speaker 4: don't add up to me. That's a problem for me.

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Speaker 3: So who negotiates that from the city. It has to be.

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Speaker 3: It has to be the AD. AD doesn't. Yes, okay, because.

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Speaker 2: I remember when I used to play basketball, and I

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Speaker 2: remember I used to see like copp and State. They

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Speaker 2: used to always the first fifteen games was on the road.

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Speaker 2: They play Ohio State, Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Beat down pockets fat though he start to seize it

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Speaker 4: off like and ten over twelve.

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Speaker 1: So say the SEC has that one week every year,

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Speaker 1: they're like, this is Lake City, Why are you playing

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Speaker 1: UCL Monroe.

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Speaker 4: Because it's to pay a game for them, right, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but you got to make sure you get compensated enough.

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Speaker 4: It's not worth my kids getting hurt. Then I gotta

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Speaker 4: go and talk them. You know what, we could do

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Speaker 4: it next week. I know what happened last week. I'm

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Speaker 4: sorry about that. We had to go get the bag.

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Speaker 4: That's what the conversation should be. We had to go

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Speaker 4: get the bag. Guess what we could do it this week?

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Speaker 4: We could beat them.

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Speaker 3: But I can't do it. I can't say I'm a kids.

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Speaker 1: Le's I'm saying, even when you get the bag, it's

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Speaker 1: still coming back to the school, not necessarily the program.

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Speaker 4: And you ain't even bringing enough back because you got

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Speaker 4: to make it back home, right And you didn't even

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Speaker 4: get enough to even make it back.

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Speaker 3: Home with a bag.

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Speaker 2: And at some point a conversation has to have. It

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Speaker 2: has to be had about funding for these schools, especially

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Speaker 2: the state schools, because it's like why a lot of

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Speaker 2: Ohio states and state school like Florida State's and state

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Speaker 2: school but why the black state schools never get any

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Speaker 2: money enrollment.

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Speaker 4: You gotta talk about enrollment, and we got to quit

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Speaker 4: stop accepting whatever they give us. They can't just throw

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Speaker 4: no money at you. You say, oh, thank you, No man,

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Speaker 4: stop accepting the foolishness that to give you. If you

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Speaker 4: accept peanuts, they gonna thank you monkey sooner. Lady, you

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Speaker 4: got to stop dancing clapping for the little diames they're

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Speaker 4: thrown in your plate, and you got to demand we

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Speaker 4: deserve more. And this is why, and it's documented.

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Speaker 3: So one of the things you talked about, obviously, is

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Speaker 3: the facilities.

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Speaker 1: If we're gonna grow and win, win in comes, success

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Speaker 1: comes more money. I know, even like here, when you

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Speaker 1: came here, this room we were sitting there did not exist.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't, right, So these are practice field did

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Speaker 4: not exists, Bill did not exist. None of this existed.

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Speaker 4: And we're thankful that we have an ad that knows

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Speaker 4: how to fight. And we partner and we communicate and

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Speaker 4: we articulate to one another the needs and the thoughts

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Speaker 4: and the process of getting them. And then I got

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Speaker 4: partners right who helped.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that kind of got glossed

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Speaker 1: over was like even when this wasn't ready, Coase prop said, look,

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Speaker 1: take half of whatever I'm making make it happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to finish, get it done.

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Speaker 4: I had to get it done because I'm gonna I

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Speaker 4: get tired of telling people this, this, this, this, this,

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Speaker 4: assuming that you just maybe not do it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: only tell you to cut the grass three times, Okay.

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Speaker 4: After that, I'm gonna do it. Okay, So I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna sit up here and just cry, cry cry. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna give you opportunity to do what you've been handsomely

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Speaker 4: paid to do your job.

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Speaker 3: Then again, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: So you've become the most recognizable person in the state

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Speaker 2: of Mississippi, and I don't even think it's closed, probably

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Speaker 2: by a landslide. So with that, I'm assuming it. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot on your plate that you probably necessarily didn't

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Speaker 2: sign up for, so we just had.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that no, everything that that's on

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Speaker 4: my plate. I've been through the process at the youth level,

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Speaker 4: at the high school level, or at some level. God

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Speaker 4: is taking me through it in the dark. So when

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Speaker 3: I was ready.

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Speaker 4: My graduates from my school being forced back drop drop

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Speaker 1: pushing your as your forward