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Speaker 1: Bills insider. Thanks for coming on, Brownie, appreciate We're off

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Speaker 1: feet of the offensive line, right. That was you know

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Speaker 1: the red rifle over there, the guy that Buffalo's local

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Speaker 1: hero for about a week there, the red rifle, right, Yeah,

428
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Speaker 1: it was Andy Dalton, and so he took a lot

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Speaker 1: of the heat for all the playoff losses that the

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Speaker 1: Bengals incurred, but that offensive line was pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're with one Bill's Live Steve Task along with

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, if you want to jump in on the

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Speaker 1: conversation that we're having eight oh three five fifty or

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Speaker 1: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about which AFC East quarterback is under the most pressure

436
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Speaker 1: headed into training camp, and that goes for all the

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Speaker 1: backups as well. In Buffalo, we know Nathan Peterman, Josh Allen,

438
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Speaker 1: AJ McCarron. In Miami, we're talking about Ryan Tannehill is

439
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Speaker 1: being under a ton of pressure coming back from an injury,

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Speaker 1: and Brock Osweiler's backing him up. And in New York

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Speaker 1: the Jets, they've got a big roster with Teddy Bridgewater,

442
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold and Josh McCown, three guys looking at things.

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Speaker 1: And then of course the forty year old who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be in a two weeks. Tom Brady's gonna be forty

445
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Speaker 1: one years old. And I'll tell you Brian Horrier is

446
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Speaker 1: his backup. Last I checked it, it it was Brian Morrier.

447
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Speaker 1: They got they got some issues to deal with. I

448
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Speaker 1: think that I think that the end of the end

449
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Speaker 1: of the line is coming up in New England. Although

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Speaker 1: like you and I both said, I think, you know,

451
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Speaker 1: they still got a chance to go to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with Tom Brady be in front one, and he

453
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Speaker 1: may have to carry them a little bit more now

454
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Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Cooks isn't there anymore. Amendola, as we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: is in Miami. Now Edelman may be back. You know,

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Speaker 1: Edelman should be back, So maybe that's a wash after

457
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Speaker 1: twelve years, after twelve he'll be back for twelve games

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Speaker 1: after a four game suspension, Edelman. Oh yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good point. I forgot about the suspension because that didn't

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Speaker 1: get overturned or reduced at least not yet, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, Gronk probably playing one more year, I would say,

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Speaker 1: before he takes on a wrestling and acting career, and

463
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Speaker 1: people are starting. Tiffany Daniels on the tweet, she says,

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Speaker 1: the pressure is on Brady coming off a big loss

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Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. He's gonna have to carry the

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Speaker 1: Pats after a tumultuous offseason. Well for the Pats was tumultuous.

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Speaker 1: He lost some talent with the departure of Cooks and Amandola.

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Speaker 1: Plus Gronk is a year older and contemplated retirement. And

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Speaker 1: one thing Tiffany didn't mention was the fact that Edelman's

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Speaker 1: coming back with a four game suspension and coming off

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Speaker 1: a major injury. So that's It'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: how they do it in New England because they always

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Speaker 1: do it a different way, right, He's always the lynchpen,

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Speaker 1: But from game to game, week to week, and certainly

475
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Speaker 1: from year to year, their identity changes. I remember last

476
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Speaker 1: year it looked like the end of the line for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots in Week one when the Chiefs absolutely shellack

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Speaker 1: them in Foxborough on Monday Night football, or was a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night football. It was the first game of the

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Speaker 1: first game of the year is a Thursday night football

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Speaker 1: and they crushed him. It's like forty two to something.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was like the defense after the

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Speaker 1: first month of the season. Right, Matt Patricia's not there

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Speaker 1: anymore either, Right, new defensive coordinator, Matt Patricia's now the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Detroit Lions. And you know this,

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Speaker 1: I've always said coordinators are important. They're huge, and put

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Speaker 1: losing Patricia means they're gonna have to it's above the

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Speaker 1: players now that who's gonna have to adjust? Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: then I think that's huge. And they're retool on the

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Speaker 1: left side of their offensive line. I mean Nate Soldiers

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Speaker 1: in New York playing for the Giants now. So they

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Speaker 1: signed Trent Brown, the free agent out of San fran

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Speaker 1: and the left guard Joe Toney, I think is probably

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Speaker 1: the weakest offensive lineman they have in the starting lineup,

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Speaker 1: and it's probably a big reason why Isaiah Win was

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Speaker 1: their first round draft choice, the lineman out of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So you know they're gonna be retooling up front as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, how good does the offensive line have to

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Speaker 1: pass protect? Not that much. When Tom Brady's getting the

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Speaker 1: ball out in two point one two point two seconds,

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Speaker 1: you know you don't have to be expert pass protectors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he doesn't. Yeah, we were. We had on one

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Speaker 1: of the true false last week, get a l two foals.

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Speaker 1: Somebody had said, I think somebody had said, Tom Brady

505
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Speaker 1: scrambles like a baby giraffe. He doesn't have to scramble much.

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Speaker 1: He shuffles his feet and the ball comes out. He's

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Speaker 1: really good at it. Some people are all chamming in

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Speaker 1: as Tom Brady Tannehill. Yeah, it's he's If you want

509
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Speaker 1: to tweet us, you can at one Bills Live. You

510
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Speaker 1: want to call us eight or three oh five fifty

511
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Speaker 1: Steve Task along with Chris Brown, we're talking about which

512
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the AFC East is under the most pressure

513
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Speaker 1: headed into training camp. We're also talking about the retirement

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Speaker 1: of Durell Reevs. Rivas Island has sunk into the sea?

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Speaker 1: Is the first ballot for you? First ballot Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: eleven year career. How I'm gonna ask you this question,

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Speaker 1: how many career interceptions do you think Durell Reeves has?

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Speaker 1: Eleven seasons? I know, Oh, you're doing idea. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: do know, and it's not as many as I thought. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. And I think that's an indication that playing

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Speaker 1: in New York grossly raised his profile. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that he's not a great player. He was a great player.

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Speaker 1: That guy had the number one assignment every week. He'd

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Speaker 1: lock people down routinely. Back half of his career not

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Speaker 1: nearly as impressive as the front half. I don't know, though,

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Speaker 1: because you can make the argument that the reason he

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Speaker 1: didn't have that many interceptions is because they couldn't throw

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Speaker 1: to guy, right, they looked away from him, And sometimes

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Speaker 1: that's right. And listen, he goes to New England for

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Speaker 1: a year BAM World Championship, you know, and New England

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Speaker 1: paid him a ton of cash to come up there,

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Speaker 1: um so, and there was always somebody who wanted And

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Speaker 1: that's football people, I don't, you know. General managers don't

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Speaker 1: sign guys on reputation. They they have people watch the film,

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Speaker 1: they do homework, they do their background checks, they do

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Speaker 1: all of that. And they all looked at Darrell Reevas

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Speaker 1: and everybody wanted him. And you talked to all the

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Speaker 1: and there was people chiming in on the Twitter two

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Speaker 1: bringing to light about why Durrell Reevas had made so

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Speaker 1: much money over the course of his career. And there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that he did. And and you look at

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Speaker 1: other people who did the exact same thing, and it

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Speaker 1: was because he got a chance to be a free

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Speaker 1: agent a lot. Well, yeah, and there's no pun intended.

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Speaker 1: But I saw Andrew Brandt, you know, who is a

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Speaker 1: former front office man in this league and knows contracts,

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Speaker 1: knows you know, market value and things of that nature,

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Speaker 1: and he said there was no player in the league

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Speaker 1: over the last fifteen years who understood their leverage better

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Speaker 1: than Darrell Rievs. And and he did that. And I

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Speaker 1: actually saw a tweet from our friend Mike Jeneti from

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Speaker 1: spot track. He said, Darrell Reeves walks away from football

553
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Speaker 1: having earned one hundred and twenty four million across eleven seasons,

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Speaker 1: twenty two million dollars more than any cornerback in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: The guy that comes closest is Champ Bailey at one

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Speaker 1: hundred and two million. Yeah, and you look at there

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Speaker 1: are other there are other places to you know, to

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Speaker 1: look as well. You've you've got other guys that hit

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Speaker 1: free agency and that's the way you hit the home

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Speaker 1: run financially. And another thing too, is you got to

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Speaker 1: sign a short deal. You got to sign a short deal. Well,

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Speaker 1: and that's what he would do. Yeah, you signed it

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Speaker 1: a couple of years where he was franchised h and

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Speaker 1: then even when he did sign long term, there was

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Speaker 1: either an opt out clause it seemed, or a two

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Speaker 1: year deal where we would get out fast. So it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I just twenty nine interceptions in eleven seasons, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I know I know a lot of the guys.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of the guys at the top

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Speaker 1: of the interception list all the time in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: you know, played before the Chuck rule, you know, got

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Speaker 1: tossed out and that's why their numbers are so inflated

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Speaker 1: in comparison to the guys that play now. But still,

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Speaker 1: in all, twenty nine was lower than I anticipated. I know,

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Speaker 1: you just said the same thing. And I think when

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Speaker 1: you play in a in a venue and a market

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Speaker 1: like New York, you know, your your status can get

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Speaker 1: inflated a little bit. Again, great player. I think he's

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Speaker 1: going in the Hall of Fame. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's first ballot, but I think his reputation. His reputation

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Speaker 1: is so big that will probably happen, you know it

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Speaker 1: Just it's interesting to me. I just think his career

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Speaker 1: in New York presented him with the opportunity to kind

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Speaker 1: of you know, Reevous Island. You know, he's getting things

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Speaker 1: named after him and stuff like that. I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'd be curious to see what the thoughts

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Speaker 1: on him would be if he played his entire career

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Speaker 1: in Eric like Patrick Peterson, perfect example. Patrick Peterson's every

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Speaker 1: bit the cornerback that Durell Reevs is. Does he have

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Speaker 1: the same profile and notoriety as Durell Reevs. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's not even close. No, But he has a better

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Speaker 1: weather to play in year round, all right. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker run One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back with more. We've got to Eric Winston, NFL,

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Speaker 1: NFLPA President. Also Bucky Brooks coming up on later in

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Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna talk about who's on the cover

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Speaker 1: of Madden this scene. Stick with us. One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: the One Bill's Live. Steeve Tasker and Chris Brown. You

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Speaker 1: can join us into conversation to eight three five fifty

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Speaker 1: or one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty or

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Speaker 1: tweet at us at one bills Live. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's going on the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: We just finished talking about Darrell Reevas and his retirement.

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Speaker 1: Some of the guys who are not retiring is Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 1: who just signed a five year, eighty one I gotta laugh,

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Speaker 1: eighty one million dollar extension with the La Rams. He

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Speaker 1: was traded from the New England Patriots this offseason and

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Speaker 1: they signed him to a long term deal, fifty of

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Speaker 1: which was is guaranteed. I guess over the life of

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Speaker 1: the deal. Really he signed for twenty and a half

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Speaker 1: that was the signing bonus, and then I guess a

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Speaker 1: total of fifty million is guaranteed, So another thirty million

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Speaker 1: of that good for him. Eighty is guaranteed, so at

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Speaker 1: the very least he walks away with fifty good for him. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: big fat deal when you know that is a monstrous

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Speaker 1: deal and they got a lot of money. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: this is you know, as I see it, it's a

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Speaker 1: guy that they feel is clearly a better option for

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Speaker 1: their offense than Sammy Watkins, who came in Laden training camp.

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Speaker 1: Did not take long did it for them? Came in

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Speaker 1: Laden training camp, So he was behind to begin with.

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Speaker 1: And I've always thought that Sammy is not the guy

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Speaker 1: that's right for a complex offensive scheme. And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if the Rams offensive scheme is necessarily complex, but

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Speaker 1: he really just could not find his role. Say guy either,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Cook seems like a pros pro, knows the grindstone, committed,

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Speaker 1: you know all that stuff. Veteran serious dude, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he's not crazy. Thing is he's only

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Speaker 1: twenty four years old. Oh he's young. So they got

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Speaker 1: him tied up yea to twenty twenty four. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean so they've got him for the prime of his career. Right.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a nice core there with Cooks, Woods,

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Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup, you know, as your top three. The

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Speaker 1: question now is I mean, Cook's just zoomed to the

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Speaker 1: top of your salary cap table. He's the highest paid

637
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: player on the team with an average annual salary is

638
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars. That's going to I'm gonna stay that

639
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: way for very long. So the question becomes, well, what

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: do you do here in terms of taking care of

641
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, who's arguably the best defensive lineman in football.

642
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's a huge issue. I don't

643
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: think they can address it now. Though. That's the problem.

644
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: You don't have the cap space to do it because

645
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: they've only got about four million in cap space. That

646
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: ain't getting a deal done with Aaron Donald. And so

647
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: here's how I see it playing out for the Rams.

648
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: I think the Rams tell Aaron Donald, look, come to

649
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: hamp play this year. We're gonna take care of you

650
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: in the off season. We'll get you what you want

651
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: and deliver there because they've got if you're Aaron Donald,

652
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: because they've got and Dominican suit on the roster at

653
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: one year, fourteen million dollars. That number comes off your cap.

654
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: And then LaMarcus Joiner, the free safety one year deal

655
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: for eleven point two, he comes off your cap. So

656
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: right there, there's twenty five million dollars freed up that

657
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: you can put towards Aaron Donald in twenty nineteen, and

658
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: forget about twenty twenty, twenty twenty one and all of

659
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: that stuff. So I think your job now is to

660
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 1: convince Aaron Donald. Look, buddy, I know you've been waiting

661
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: a while. Here, give us a tad bit more time

662
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: and and we'll take care of you. If you're Aaron Donald,

663
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: the only reason you would even consider doing that is

664
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: this is a team that they are They are loading

665
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: up for this season period. Now, you could hold him hostage,

666
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: but there's nothing they can do now now that they

667
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: sign this Brandon Cooks thing. The team game. Listen, our

668
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: hands are tied. We've got nothing going on unless you

669
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: are of a mind to say, listen, how about signing

670
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: this deal. We'll give you like four million bucks this year,

671
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: and then it escalates instead of de escalates like it

672
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: does for all these other players in their contract because

673
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: or will guarantee it over the life of the deal. Yeah,

674
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Donald's going to make upwards of nineteen to

675
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars per season, right, That's where his value

676
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: would be on the open market. He's the best defensive

677
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: player in the league, and he does it from the

678
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackle spot, which is an impossible The guy's phenomenal,

679
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 1: that's all you can say. He does things nobody else does.

680
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: He rushes the passer all the time from the interior

681
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: of the line and gets a lot of sacks and

682
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: nobody else can do that, right, And he's in the

683
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: last year of his rookie deal. But he's already twenty seven,

684
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: you know, so he's gonna be twenty eight next year.

685
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: What do they do? They trade him? Uh? I mean,

686
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: you could certainly do that, But why would you do that?

687
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: You know, Sue is only going to be there for

688
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: a year. He's only gonna be there for one year. Yeah,

689
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: I get it. But if he's not going to take

690
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: the deal, I guess you trade. If he's done, then

691
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: you trade. If he doesn't want to come back, then

692
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 1: yea twenty seven? Yeah, that's that's a that raises my eyebrows.

693
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I think it was like twenty five. I thought he

694
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: was young. He's twenty seven now and he's still on

695
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: the last year of a five year rookie deal. This

696
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: is the last year of his five year rookie Yeah,

697
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: well for four years. This is fourth year, okay, so

698
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: they could even do the fifth year option and hold

699
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: him one more year. I think, oh, that's what they're

700
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: gonna do. Well, actually, I think they would have had

701
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: to do that this past May, and I don't think

702
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: they did, so I really haven't had my ear to

703
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: the ground on the Aaron Donaldson, which I do know

704
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: this and Dominican sue. The cornerbacks that they brought in

705
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: are great. The h They've got all kinds of got

706
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: of signs that point toward this being the year that

707
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna go. Oh, this is his fifth

708
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: year option. So he's serving his fifth year option right now. Okay, yeah,

709
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: so that it's it's up in the air in LA

710
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: and but Aaron Donald's got it. You talk about a guy,

711
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: a player with the most leverage, it may be Aaron Donald.

712
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean that he's the best player on that side

713
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: of the forget about on his team on that day,

714
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: on the best side of the He's the best defensive

715
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: player in the league. And it's time. Well, I mean,

716
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: I will say this, LaMarcus Joiner should not be on

717
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: the same side of the ball as Aaron Donald and

718
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: making more than three million dollars more than him this

719
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: year or five million dollars. But that's yeah, but that's

720
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: you can't even look at that because it's his rookie deal.

721
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: All these guys are on the rookie deal, you know,

722
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: And that's that changes everything. But they got Marcus Peters

723
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: and a key to leave at the corner. They've Aaron

724
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: Donald and Dominican Sue down inside. I mean they're going forth,

725
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Jared Goff, Brandon Robert Wood. They got got

726
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: the best punter in the league, Johnny Hecker. They got

727
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 1: some guys. But we've seen it happen for most notably

728
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: years ago when the when the Washington Redskins and Dan

729
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Schneider decided he wanted to try and buy a Super

730
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: Bowl and it failed miserably. But most of the guys

731
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: they bought were over on the back side of their

732
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: career of bruce in the last four years of a

733
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: seventeen year career or a nineteen year career. Uh Dion

734
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Sanders was a part of that crew. They had some

735
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: guys that were well passed the long in the tooth, Yeah,

736
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: long in the tooth to say the least, right, you

737
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: know it was, um, it just didn't work. These guys, however,

738
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: are not old. Right. And here's the other thing too

739
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: about the Rams. Uh you look at their most expensive

740
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: contracts on their roster, they don't really have too many

741
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: guys coming up with expiring deals. So here are your

742
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: top paid players on the RAMS roster. Brandon Cooks signed

743
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: through twenty twenty four, a keep de Leape signed through

744
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Mark Baron signed through twenty twenty one. Robert

745
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: Woods signed through twenty twenty two, Andrew Whitworth signed through

746
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: twenty Brockers through twenty Roger Saffold twenty nineteen. It's the

747
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: only guy with an expiring contract in the top seven players.

748
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Goff doesn't expire until twenty one, and that's going to

749
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: be a handful Hecker twenty twenty three, Nickel Roby Coleman

750
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. This guy, Nikel Robie Coleman is in

751
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: your top ten paid players on your roster. I mean,

752
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: I like Nikel Robie Coleman, loved him when he was here.

753
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Nice role player. I understand the Nickel corners out on

754
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: the field a lot, but holy cow, top ten on

755
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: your roster. Yeah, I don't know, man, I know corners

756
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: get paid a lot, but geez luiz, Yeah, they've got

757
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: some big They've got some big numbers at the tab

758
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue Andrew Whitworth is making twelve and a

759
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: half LaMarcus Joiner eleven, A Keep Talive eleven, Michael Brocker's eleven,

760
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: Mark Baron at ten, Robert Woods nine, Brandon Cooks is

761
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: now eight four. All of that stuff, I mean, it's

762
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,919
Speaker 1: they got that. I mean, that's a top heavy that's

763
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: a top heavy roster with So you're right, I mean

764
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: they are going for it. They're they're laying out tons

765
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: of cash. Um well, their owner, their owner's got as

766
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: deep a pockets as any owner in the NFL. And

767
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: believe me, that's saying something because that's a that's an

768
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: elite group. But he I think his net worth is

769
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: about eight point three billion, Yeah, yeah, Stan Cronk. Yeah.

770
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: And he's also got the whole LA Stadium development palace

771
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: thing going in. Have you seen the renderings of it? Well,

772
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: forget just the stadium, I mean it's like an entire complex.

773
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: Goodness gracious, what's going on, Like a mall and a

774
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: bunch of other stuff that's going up there. It's just

775
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: it's a Disney World. Yeah for adults. Yeah, theoretically theoretically, right,

776
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: they'll be hosting Super Bowls, they might be involved in

777
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: Olympic bids for LA. Yeah, we're you're on the You're

778
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: listening to Steve Tasker and Chris Brown on One Bills Live.

779
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: You can join us at eight oh three oh five

780
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: fifteen outside Buffalo one eight eight five fifty two, five fifty.

781
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: We've got a phone caller, Dan from Florida. I'm gonna

782
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: give this a shot. This is it's always a roll

783
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 1: of the dice whenever I try and take a call. Dan.

784
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 1: You're on one Bills Live. What's on your mind? Hey, Steve,

785
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: how you doing? Bud doing great? Um? And uh, Chris,

786
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you and well, but Chris, you're

787
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: like so plucked in the bills on the inside. Bonte Davis. Um,

788
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: is he gonna start week one? Is he gonna be ready?

789
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's gonna be training camp,

790
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: but as long as he's in a classroom, yeah, I

791
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: mean I think the anticipation is he's gonna be fine

792
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: for week one. Obviously, we have to see how things

793
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: progress on the field in training camp. I mean, he

794
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: was he was limited in what he was doing, but

795
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: they kind of had him on the same kind of

796
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: rep cycle as Trent Murphy. I think they just looked

797
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: at both of those guys and said, look, we've got

798
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: two veterans who are proven in this league. One's coming

799
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: off a major injury in Murphy, the other one's coming

800
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: off a groin surgery. Let's not overtax him now. Let's

801
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: give him an extra five, six, seven weeks to ease

802
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: his way in, you know, and then we'll work on

803
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: letting the motor memory take over and get into the grind.

804
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Davis and Murphy are brought

805
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 1: along slowly, even in the first week of camp, where

806
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: their reps are closely monitored, and they kind of ramp

807
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: them up through the first week. Steve can probably speak

808
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: better to this than I can, because he's been through it.

809
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: But you know, you get through that first week, maybe

810
00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: eight nine days of training camp, that's the first instance

811
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: where those legs really start to get heavy for the

812
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: first time as you're getting ready for the season, and

813
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes coaches will see that and they'll back off.

814
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: I think they want to avoid that with those two

815
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: guys all together, and ramp them up slowly through the

816
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: first week and kind of build them, especially Vante Davis

817
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: a groin injury that's a tough injury for a corner

818
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: who's flipping his hips almost every single passing play. You know,

819
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: you're putting a lot of demand on that part of

820
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: your body. So I think they're going to be very

821
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: cautious in their approach. But there's no indication that Davis,

822
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: at least to this point, has had any setbacks. He's

823
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: been here continuing with his rehab regimen in the five

824
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: weeks that the players have been off. I actually saw

825
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: him in the building yesterday coming from the training room,

826
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think there's any concern there

827
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: right now. Could anything happen, sure, I mean, somebody could

828
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: get injured any given day on the practice field, whether

829
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: they're coming off an injury or not. But I think

830
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: all indications are he's gonna be fine. They're just being

831
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: pretty cautious with their approach with him in terms of

832
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: rep counts, and so yeah, there's no no reason for

833
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: him to be Razors sharp in July. So we're gonna

834
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Speaker 1: take a break. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive

835
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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bills Live.

836
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Speaker 1: Thanks for sticking with us. I'm I'm doing the best

837
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: I can. Murph is usually the workhorse here getting us

838
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: in and out of the bumps, and sometimes I'm a

839
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: little choppy at it. But Chris Brown's here with me.

840
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: Murph is on vacation for the rest of the week.

841
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: Family wedding, so awesome. You didn't get an invite to

842
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: the wedding. No, yeah, you don't need a die That's okay.

843
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give him some trouble about that. Well,

844
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: he wasn't making the invite. I don't really want to

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Speaker 1: go to the wedding. I want to go to the reception.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're counting on the Murphy clan to come

847
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: through with the high end Lincoln. I know how to do.

848
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: I know how they can throw it back, So I'm

849
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: thinking that would have been fun. We're talking about a

850
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: lot of stuff going on around the National Football League.

851
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to get to today before before

852
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: we get to one o'clock hour, is my good friend

853
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: and former teammate Jim Kelly getting the sp of the

854
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy V. Award for Perseverance for his battle with cancer.

855
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Tonight it happens, and we Murph and I talked a

856
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: little bit about it yesterday about what Jim means to

857
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: this community and what he is and really the fact

858
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: that Brownie, you might agree or disagree, I don't. His

859
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: legacy has almost gone way beyond being a Hall of

860
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: Fame court Yeah. I mean, I mentioned that the last

861
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: time I was on with you guys. It's the shift

862
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: has already taken place. It's not about Jim Kelly, the

863
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback. His legacy now is being as

864
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: champion for Luca dystrophees, universal newborn screening, and now for cancers. Yeah.

865
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: So you know, you look at all of that, and

866
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: I think that is what has moved to the top

867
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: of the l of the Jim Kelly resume. Not that

868
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: he's putting together a resume. This is just something that

869
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: he feels has been called to do. And that is

870
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: I think, in the end, what more people at least

871
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: now twenty some odd years removed from playing the game,

872
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, is what he is recognized for and recognized

873
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: as an ambassador for these costs causes. So, you know,

874
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: to be honored like this is pretty neat. Um. I

875
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: think it'll be pretty emotional in that room tonight because

876
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I think everybody in that room will recognize what he's representing.

877
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: The battle that he's had, not only personally, but the

878
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: one that he's you know, flying the flag for, you know,

879
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: right out in front of every everybody that's been stricken

880
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: with cancer, either directly or indirectly within their own families.

881
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm new to this radio thing, and here inside the

882
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: building we have a meeting. Everyone of content meeting every morning.

883
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: And one of the things I hope I can say

884
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: this that Jim and his family Aaron, are going to

885
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: take over the bills in Twitter account, Instagram, Instagram account.

886
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: So tonight during this in the run up towards UH

887
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: the sp Awards, you'll get some instagrams from behind the

888
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: scene from the Buffalo Bill's Twitter account because his daughter

889
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: Aaron is going to have the Bills a control of

890
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: the Bill's Twitter account for this evening while Jim is

891
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: backstage and getting the Jimmy V Award. If you want

892
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: to go on and Instagram find out what's going on,

893
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: you'll get a chance to see everything behind the scenes.

894
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: Jim and I said this yesterday too well. One of

895
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: the cool things about Jim is the fact that he

896
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: does share everything with his fans and us. He is

897
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 1: an open book and and he leads he leads this

898
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: epic life. I mean, he's a rock star even today

899
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: as a cancer patient, and he leads this he's this

900
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: huge celebrities superstar quarterback. But he's also this genuine, giving,

901
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: best buddy bro for everybody he meets, even the kids

902
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: at his football camp, they all feel like they walk

903
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: away with some story, personal story about how they got

904
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: a chance to say hi to Jim, or catch a

905
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: pass from him, or or he quarterbacked my team during argument.

906
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: It's just the list goes on and on and on

907
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: about how much Jim gives away of himself and allows

908
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: access to his personal life and this life that he

909
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: has led here in Buffalo, and it's just one of

910
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: the great gifts, yeah, that he has. I mean, he's

911
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 1: a giver. I don't think there's any question about that.

912
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: It's funny because you know, my wife and I talk

913
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: about this all the time with our kids. We often

914
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: quote that famous poet Maya Angelou. One of her poems.

915
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: She said, you know, basically where it ends up is

916
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: it says, the most important impact you can have on

917
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: people that they will remember is how you make them feel.

918
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: It's not what you say, sometimes it's not even what

919
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: you do. It's how you make the person feel. And

920
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: I think the impression that Jim leaves on people is

921
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: that to a t. And that's why he is so

922
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: widely recognized because he just has this innate ability to

923
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: make people feel valued, important to him, you know. And

924
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: that's Jim Kelly, so you know too. I think that's

925
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: really where it just comes so natural to him. It's

926
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: so easy for him to do. It's just part of

927
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: who he is. Yeah, Jim Kelly. Tonight at the SBS,

928
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: He's going to receive the Jimmy v Endurance Award or

929
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: Perseverance Perseverance Award. Endurance would probably apply to been through

930
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: with cancer tree in the last few months, even all

931
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: the way back into early June when he had his

932
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: golf tournament, he showed up. Man, he put in a

933
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: full two days, and I think guys like him and

934
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: you can understand why he thrives on it. I mean,

935
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: I think it energized him as a guy that was

936
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: in the midst and about to go in for a

937
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: second surgery and was just needed to be there, wanted

938
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: to be there. Is here at the kids football camp

939
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: a week after having that follow up proceed yesterday, he

940
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: was in Rochester for an opening of clinic for a clinic.

941
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is unbelievable, so so much to me.

942
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: I hope you all tune in watch Jim accept the

943
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: Perseverance Award of the SPS Tonight. We're gonna be right back.

944
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to the President of the NFLPA, Eric

945
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Winston right after the top of the era. You're on

946
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: One Bills Live with from One Bill's Drive with Steve Tasker.

947
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: Chris Brown will be right back Blow Bills Radio Network

948
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: Sports Update Tonight at the sp Awards, Jim Kelly will

949
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 1: receive the Jimmy V Award for Perseverance. Kelly has been

950
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: diagnosed with cancer three times in the last five years.

951
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame quarterback becomes the second former Bills

952
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: player to receive the award. Former tight end Kevin Everett

953
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: was hundred in two thousand and eight. Around the NFL.

954
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: After eleven seasons that featured seven Pro Bowl appearances and

955
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: one Super Bowl championship, Durrell Revs has decided to call

956
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: it a career. Vs released a statement on Instagram Wednesday

957
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: announcing that he is retiring from the NFL. He finishes

958
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 1: his career with twenty nine interceptions. After acquiring wide receiver

959
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks in an offseason trade with the Patriots, the

960
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams have extended Cook's contract days before the

961
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: start of training camp. It's reported five year extension worth

962
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: eighty one million dollars. Cardinals general manager Steve Kim was

963
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: jailed last Tuesday evening after pleading guilty to extreme DUI.

964
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: He's scheduled to be released on Thursday. This follows his

965
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: July fourth arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence.

966
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have suspended Kime for five weeks and find

967
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: him two hundred thousand dollars. The Jacksonville Jaguars have signed

968
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: their first round pick, the twenty ninth overall pick, defensive

969
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: tackle Tavn Bryan inks his rookie deal a week before

970
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: the Jags report to camp. This now leaves ten first

971
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: round picks unsigned, including Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. A big

972
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 1: trade in the NBA, the Spurs have agreed to trade

973
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard and Danny Green to the Toronto Raptors for

974
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: Damar de Rosen, Jacob Purtel, and a two thousand, nineteen

975
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. Kawhi only appeared in nine games

976
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: last season due to a quadraceps injury he suffered during

977
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen playoffs. And finally, in baseball, the Bison's

978
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: wrapping up a three game set with the Norfolk Tides.

979
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: First pitch just about to get underway downtown. It's a

980
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: scheduled one pm first pitch that's at Coca Cola Field,

981
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: and that is your sports update Steve Tasker along with

982
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Chris Brown on One Bills Live. We're pleased to be

983
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: joined by Eric Winston. He's played twelve seasons in the

984
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: National Football League with Houston, Kansas City, Arizona, and Cincinnati,

985
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: and he is the current National Football League Players Association President. Eric,

986
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with a Steve Tasker and Chris Brown.

987
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: How are you today, good man? How do you guys doing?

988
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. We're doing really well. What is

989
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: on the plate of the of the National Football League

990
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: Players Association President today? I mean, what's what's the overriding

991
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: topic of the day for you? Eric? What's yes is

992
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: A is a easier conversation. Listen all the time, I'm

993
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: always talking to players, talking to guys, trying to fix problems.

994
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Trying to help guys out. And sometimes it's little stuff,

995
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: some sometimes it's big stuff, but it's important things to

996
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: our guys, and it's important things that guys care about.

997
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: And so you know, from day to day it switches up,

998
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: and that's part of the fun of the job, to

999
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: be honest with you, is that every day is going

1000
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: to be a little different. Everybody. Every day is going

1001
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: to bring a new problem, but also a chance to

1002
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: to help. And that's honestly, at the end of the day,

1003
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: that's why I got in This was to help the

1004
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: guys and I felt like this was maybe the best

1005
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: position I could, uh that I could achieve that from

1006
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 1: so I enjoy it. It's it's never it's never easy,

1007
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: but it's I love. I love helping the guys out

1008
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: and doing the past well, doing the things that we

1009
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: do on the radio on the horizon, and one of

1010
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: the things that's always coming up, and particularly with all

1011
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: the off season, we start to talk talk about issues

1012
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: away from the field and on the horizon on you know,

1013
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: people in our business, we're starting to think about the

1014
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: CBA and what might change at the next time it

1015
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: pops up, and how likely it is that uh negotiations

1016
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: will start there there'll be a work stoppage of that

1017
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: kind of thing. What are the issues that most of

1018
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: the players talk to you about are like what's job one?

1019
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: Uh for the association for the union and you know

1020
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: the issues that they want addressed in the next CBA. Yeah. Yeah,

1021
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: I would never. I never say there's there's a thing.

1022
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's some overriding topics, right Obviously, you

1023
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: know I'd be lying to you if I didn't say.

1024
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,479
Speaker 1: Money is part of it. I mean, obviously we want

1025
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: the revenue. Is that going to happen? Probably not, But

1026
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where um, it's that's that's

1027
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 1: that's part of the bargain, right, we got to figure

1028
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: out how we can maximize that part. Obviously, health and

1029
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: safety there's always a huge topic on our guide minds, right, well,

1030
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: how do we how do we keep pushing that envelope

1031
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: prevention but not only prevention, but when an injury does happen,

1032
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: how do we how do we get guys healthy faster?

1033
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's always something that's that's real important

1034
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: too on our guys minds as they played this game. Obviously,

1035
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: working conditions, those kind of hand and man um some

1036
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: of the some of the things that happened withinside the

1037
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: uh UM the facility with the training tables and the

1038
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: and not training tables, but the physical therapy and things

1039
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: like that is things that are important as well. I

1040
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: would also say being reevaluating the rookie structure, making sure

1041
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: that's something that is uh that that's that's exactly the

1042
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: way we we should have it. UM, being able to

1043
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: get the free agency. All of these things, I would say,

1044
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: I hear about a lot and maybe the most on

1045
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: our guys minds and not you can't really have one

1046
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: without the other. Sometimes there was an interesting dynamic raise

1047
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: Eric with back to all the talk this week about

1048
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, Levan Bell turning down the contract offer from

1049
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers. You know, even though he was going to

1050
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: get paid, he would have been paid close to double

1051
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: the highest paid running back in the league, he still

1052
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: argued that his value was greater than that and he

1053
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: was comparing himself to his team and Antonio Brown. Now

1054
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: we've seen this once, maybe twice before. I remember when

1055
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham was trying to argue that he was more

1056
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver in the way he was utilized

1057
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: in the New Orleans offense and should be paid like

1058
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 1: one instead of like a tight end. Can you foresee

1059
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: a time where maybe these position restrictions on salary based

1060
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: on current market value could be pushed for on the

1061
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: part of the players Association to go away and just

1062
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: have everybody playing on the same playing field, no pun intended, right,

1063
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're what you're referring to is obviously the

1064
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: franchise tag, and and that's that's again that goes back

1065
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: to being part of the argain. And so I think

1066
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: we always have to look at and say, Okay, what's

1067
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: the best for the most possible players possibly And he's

1068
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: not always going to hit it a hundred percent of

1069
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: the time, but how can we make this as good

1070
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: as possible? And those certain restrictions hurt other guys. That's

1071
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: just something that we're constantly looking at. We're constantly talking

1072
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: to our guys about saying, Okay, what's the best way

1073
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: to do this? And that's just again, that's just something

1074
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: that we keep looking at. But listen, Lebon's gonna be

1075
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: playing out a deal that's gonna be paying him a

1076
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: lot of money. Obviously, I know he wants a long

1077
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: term deal I bought him for seconds to his guns.

1078
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: I hope he's making the right decision just from a

1079
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: standpoint of of long term as far as hey, you know,

1080
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: when two or three downs years down the road, he's

1081
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: going to stay himself. I'm glad I did that. That's

1082
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: what I mean about I hope he's making the right

1083
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 1: decision sort of thing. But every guy's got to make

1084
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: decisions for themselves, and they've got to understand, and they

1085
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: do understand, I think to a large extent that this

1086
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: is a business of football and they've got to take

1087
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: that personally, and they've got to look at and be

1088
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,399
Speaker 1: able to see that and say, Okay, at this point

1089
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: in time, this is going to be the best decision.

1090
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm gonna do. And I think that's

1091
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: what Laban doing. We're talking with Eric Winston, the current

1092
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association President. Eric that you played for four

1093
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: different teams during your twelve year career, and we want

1094
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: to ask you about a couple of teammates they ended

1095
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: up being here with the Buffalo Bills this season. A J.

1096
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: McCarron and Russell Bodine. Let's start with Russell, the center.

1097
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: You played offensive line What can you tell us about

1098
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: this guy, a four year veteran who has never missed

1099
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: a start in his career. What are we looking at

1100
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: with Russell Bodine. Yeah, Russell is a great guy. You know.

1101
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: I think he's like you said, hey, he's very durable.

1102
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's that's always there, hate's missing practice. Obviously,

1103
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: he's never missed a game. He's a guy that I

1104
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: thought really came into his own a little bit last year.

1105
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: I saw a big jump from the previous years, his

1106
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: performance from the previous years up. He's a really, really

1107
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: good runbocker. He's a stocky, powerful guy that can can

1108
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: move some of those bigger players around in there. And

1109
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: then I think what he's done last year is I

1110
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: saw him get a lot better and pass protection and

1111
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: that's something that he's continued to improve on. That he's

1112
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: worked on his technique and that he's that he's gotten

1113
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: much better at it to make himself a complete player.

1114
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: And so, like you said, I think you guys are

1115
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: getting a player that's that's on the on the common

1116
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: so to speak. That he's he's his line still going upwards,

1117
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: and I think I think Bill Swounds will be happy

1118
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: with what they see from Russell this year. Yeah, I've

1119
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: got to ask you also about AJ McCarron, a guy

1120
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: drafted by Cincinnati when you were there, A guy who's

1121
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: never you know, put in a position to compete for

1122
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: a starting job, but did come in and play admirably

1123
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: in the short stint that he got for a fair

1124
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: or five game stretch. Tell us about AJ McCarron and

1125
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback he is, right, I hope A J

1126
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: gets a shot. I really do. I mean, obviously it's

1127
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: going to be a tricky situation up there with a

1128
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: with a first round pick and how that always happens.

1129
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, AJ is a gun flinger, and that's you

1130
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: got a of that sort of style to really like Aja.

1131
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: He's a guy that's gonna go out there. He has

1132
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: a huge confidence in himself and I really believe. And

1133
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: I don't say that as a negative, of course, I

1134
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: said as a positive because I think in that position,

1135
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: you have to believe you're going to be able to

1136
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: get the ball into a few pockets that most people

1137
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: would say you can't. And that's just I think when

1138
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: you look at the really good quarterbacks now with the defenses,

1139
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: with how good defenses are playing these days and the

1140
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: things that are going on, you've got to be able

1141
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: to put that ball in really good pockets. He's got

1142
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: great arm strength and he is he's just unafraid, and

1143
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, that plays to his advantage.

1144
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: Like you said, you saw him come into games last

1145
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: year and he here before, even in tough spots that

1146
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of guys would have done

1147
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: really great at and he came in and through touchdown

1148
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: passes and performed really well because again, I think it

1149
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: goes back to that belief he has in himself. And

1150
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: so again I hope to see him over in some

1151
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: extended period of time because I think he could be

1152
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: a guy that does some done some good things when

1153
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: he gets out on the field, because he has the

1154
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: arm strength and he has I believe in himself. I

1155
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: think he's just got to get some faint don Eric.

1156
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: We saw some rules changes here in the offseason. Obviously

1157
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: we've got the you know, the helmet hit rule now

1158
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: that's in there. That looks like it may require somewhat

1159
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: of an adjustment period for players. I think they're very

1160
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: curious as to how officials are going to police it,

1161
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, in terms and knowing fines could potentially be involved. Obviously,

1162
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: has a good number of them concerned. You know, we

1163
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: we've talked to Lorenzo Alexander, the Bills player rep here

1164
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: about it. Obviously he's going to be impacted as a

1165
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: linebacker big time with this. He seems to have an

1166
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: underlying faith that, you know, there's gonna be an ability

1167
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: on the part of the officials to kind of differentiate

1168
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: the kinds of hits. But again, we're getting into a

1169
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: judgment area that seems very tricky. Are you anticipating that

1170
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: your phone's going to be ringing an awful lot the

1171
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: first two or three weeks of the season with grievances? Hey, Eric,

1172
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: what the hell is going on here? Also, I think

1173
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: you're exactly right about when when you say that there's

1174
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a judgment Paul by the

1175
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: officials and lesson. I've always been a guy that's been

1176
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: for rules and other ways to improve health and safety,

1177
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: and I just think that's the way the game's going.

1178
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's taking a lot away from

1179
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: the game, but it's adding a lot more as as

1180
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: far as safety. So I think that's it's it's a

1181
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: worthy trade off if there is one, But at the

1182
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: same time, those can always go the other way as well.

1183
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be very eager to see how this

1184
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: ends up playing out, because again, we were very clear,

1185
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: and Lorenzo and I were in the same room when

1186
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: some of these things were proposed, and we were very

1187
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: clear on what we thought was achievable what wasn't. And

1188
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: I still think this rule has gone at least the

1189
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: way it's been presented, has probably gone too far in

1190
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: the sense of, like you said, not not that we're

1191
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: trying too hard to protect, but at the same time,

1192
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: can we actually officiate this properly and can it actually

1193
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: happen the way you're saying now, I don't know that.

1194
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how it all plays out, and

1195
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: we'll have to see when we really get down to it.

1196
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: Like you said and Michael Lorenza said, is hey, what

1197
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 1: is actually going to be called and what's not actually

1198
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: going to be called? Because some of the things they said, Hey,

1199
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: we're going to call this, okay, Well that's great, but

1200
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: I also want to see it happen. And I also

1201
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: want to see it being consistent because I think that's

1202
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: important as well. Yeah, I think you're right, Eric, Eric Winston,

1203
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: President of the NFLPA, I think one of the things

1204
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: that gets lost in all of this the players pretty

1205
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: much have a lot of confidence. Now maybe you don't

1206
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: agree with this, Eric, I've always said they can make

1207
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: the rules whatever they want as long as it's officiated consistently.

1208
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: The players will adjust pretty quickly. And it's not up

1209
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: to the players to decide what the game looks like.

1210
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: It's not up for them to decide what the rules

1211
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: will be. But when the rules are officiated, when they

1212
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: are put in, it's up to them. All they want

1213
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: is show me what it looks like, show me what

1214
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: I am able to do, and all compete inside those parameters.

1215
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes in particularly in other sports, they

1216
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: don't give the players enough credit for being able to

1217
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: do that. I under percent agree with you, and you know,

1218
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'm and when I think the fans even most

1219
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: frustration isn't that, oh they're calling that? Now? Are they

1220
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: calling that helmet? The helmets? Now? The fans feel like

1221
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: they're not it's not being called consistently. And I think

1222
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: that's the same frustration with the players. And I feel

1223
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: the officials tame because you're you're down there a lot.

1224
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 1: I know, you do some sideline stuff, and there's you

1225
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: see that the game's not slowing down, it is only

1226
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: speeding up. Oh yeah yeah. In those official jobs to

1227
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: try to parse inches of this and that and to

1228
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: try to figure out I think it's just it's become

1229
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: so tough in some of these rules unfortunately, have become

1230
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: so convoluted in a lot of ways that and tricky

1231
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: to actually just officiate in that split second. And that's

1232
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: where what we're talking about here, for talking about officiating

1233
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: something rapidly in this split second with these dynamic athletes

1234
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: all over the field. So that's really what I worry

1235
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: about more than anything. Well, that's the second thing I

1236
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: worry about one of these things. First of all as

1237
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: the health, but second of all is hey, can we

1238
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: do something that makes that a level playing field and

1239
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: that the officials can actually officiate correctly. And that's why

1240
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm happy some of the catch rules changing because I

1241
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: think again that was another thing that got so convoluted

1242
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: that it was just hard to officiate, and it put

1243
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: those guys in a really tough spot. And I think

1244
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: the fans said, I've been watching the game for thirty years.

1245
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: I know that's a catch, and they were saying it

1246
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a catch, and so I'm glad that we're taking

1247
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: a step back. I just think we have to try

1248
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: to continue to do all of that with every rule.

1249
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: I know that you already touched a little bit on

1250
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: the rookie wage scale and where it is in this CURRENCYBA,

1251
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: which is in star contrast to where it used to

1252
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: be prior to that. I think Sam Bradford is still

1253
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: held up as the example why ownership didn't want it

1254
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: the way it previously existed. It seems that somewhat of

1255
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: a tradeoff, at least for most first round picks, is

1256
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: their rookie contracts are fully guaranteed, at least in the

1257
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: top half of round one, and that's been a tradeoff

1258
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: of sorts. Do you where do you want or where

1259
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: do you anticipate your your you know, your contingency will

1260
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: want to see the rookie wage scale go. And then second,

1261
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: in addition to that, where do you see that impacting

1262
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: what seems to be a shrinking middle class in the league. Yeah,

1263
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, we've seen some some different numbers as far

1264
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: as the middle class numbers go as far as far

1265
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: as that thing that we saw. We did see some

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Speaker 1: shrinking as far as if you're talking about like the seven,

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01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: eight year, nine year guys, right, and then we saw

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: it expand last year. So you know, sometimes I think

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01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: this also goes to philosophy of GM and how they're

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01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: building teams now, I think, and I also think some

1271
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: of this the philosophy of building a team is just

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01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: a little different than it used to be, right. I mean,

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: you're the guys are looking at how, hey, how do

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01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 1: we how are we going to be successful in different ways?

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01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: And so I think we have to take that into

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01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: account a little bit. But I think the big thing

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01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: for me that I've always noticed and I've always felt

1278
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: for guys is they've got to have that ability to

1279
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: hit the market as soon as possible. Right. And again,

1280
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: what you're talking about is you're always talking about a

1281
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: trade off. You're always talking about Okay, you know owners

1282
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: ownership want unlimited control and we want no control, right,

1283
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: And where's that Where's that middle part? And I think

1284
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: we've got to find out and we got to look

1285
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: at this current situation play. Okay, is it fair for guys?

1286
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: Is it equitable the first round picks, How does how

1287
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: should it change for second round picks? Should we add money?

1288
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: Should we take cars away? Again? Those are the conversations

1289
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: I think we're going to need to have and that

1290
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: we are we are currently having, frankly, and we got

1291
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: to come to some conclusions about exactly which direction we

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01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: want to go. And just as a quick follow up,

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01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: not that it that it's of chief concern at least

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01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: to players and what they feel they need, knowing their

1295
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: career windows are relatively short in this league, perhaps more

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 1: than any other. I know from a fan perspective that

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01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: new rookie wage scale is certainly a lot less frustrating

1298
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: for fans that are excited about first and second round

1299
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: picks that are now on their team holding out before

1300
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: they even get to camp for the first time, which

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: seemed like an annual occurrence in the previous CBA because

1302
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: of how there was so much give and take and

1303
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: back and forth, and that seemed to go away with

1304
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: the current CYBA. And I know fans are not necessarily

1305
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. It's ownership and it's players,

1306
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: and those are the two parties working together there. But

1307
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: I just know that holdouts used to be a big

1308
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: point of frustration for fans that really wanted to see

1309
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: some of the best players on their team on the field.

1310
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: But well, I mean, yeah, that that comes away. Some

1311
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: of the stuff comes I hobnously. That was one of

1312
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: the things that I've been ownership, why lenership push for

1313
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: some of that stuff. And and again, we wanted to

1314
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: make sure some of that money was then guaranteed and

1315
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, for the first round picks, like

1316
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: you said, it's all guaranteed. And I think that's that's

1317
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: that's a trend I'd like to see a little bit

1318
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: more following is that, you know, let's let's start guaranteeing

1319
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: more and more of that money going forward in the

1320
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 1: second deals and the third deals and things of that

1321
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: nature as well. So, um, listen, there's again when you're

1322
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: talking about this, and you know this as well as

1323
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: I do, because you lift through it, is that there's

1324
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: trade offs with all of us, and we've got to

1325
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 1: find the right trade off for us, and it's going

1326
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 1: to be upon us, like you said, pretty soon, and

1327
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: we've got to figure it out. We're talking to go ahead, Eric,

1328
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: and that's that's yeah, And that's just kind of that's

1329
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,759
Speaker 1: that's that's how this thing happens, and it won't be easy,

1330
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: but it will be what it is and it will

1331
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: be a document, like I said, that that lives on

1332
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: just like this one does. Eric Winston, twelve year veteran

1333
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: now the current NFL Players Association president on one of

1334
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: the things we get to before we let you go

1335
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: is what's the timeline for the CBA? When does it expire?

1336
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: You say, you're having conversations already ahead of the game

1337
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: so that there isn't going to be a work stoppage

1338
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: and there's really no timeline that that can be set

1339
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: for that. You can talk about this and you can

1340
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: change the CBA anytime management and Players Association agrees. I mean,

1341
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: that's what kind of conversations are going on. Now. What's

1342
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: the timeline for perhaps some deadlines that you really want

1343
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: to hit before the fans start to pay the price? Right? Well? Um,

1344
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: you know I can tell you that. You know, obviously,

1345
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: most of our conversations, well pretty much all of the

1346
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: conversations I've been internal. You know, first of all, we've

1347
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: got to understand what the players want, and I think

1348
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: that's important. We got to make sure that those players

1349
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: are hurt, and that that we've got to these teams

1350
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: and that we're asking these guys exactly, Hey, what do

1351
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: you see, This is what we're seeing. How how does

1352
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: your your specific situation fall into the h So that's

1353
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: that's important. But listen, I'll be the first one to

1354
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: tell you that you know, at some point we're going

1355
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: to get together with the league and we're going to

1356
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: try to work this thing out, and hopefully it's sooner

1357
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: than later, and and that'd be great for everybody, But

1358
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's got to be

1359
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: the right deal. And I can't I can't put a

1360
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: timeline on something like that. I can't tell you that

1361
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 1: something is there isn't going to happen, because, as you know,

1362
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: sometimes those are that stuff is taken out of our

1363
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: hands when you get locked out. It's not the player's

1364
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: choice whether they want to keep playing or not. That

1365
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: was ownership's choice. So again, some of these things we've

1366
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: got to prepare ourselves for. We've got to make sure

1367
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: that our guys are ready to put ourselves in the

1368
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: best situation to make sure something like that doesn't happen.

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: And I think that's something that's just the sort of

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 1: the process that we're going through right now, and like

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01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 1: you said, it started and hopefully we can get there

1372
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: again sooner than later. He's the current NFL Players Association President.

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: Eric Winston, former NFL player for twelve seasons. Thanks for

1374
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 1: joining us on One Bill's Live. We appreciate it. Eric,

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: you can come back anytime. Thanks thanks for having me.

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01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: You bet. Yeah, interesting stuff from there, And he's right,

1377
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: it is the players have to decide what they want,

1378
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: what they feels import and that's a hard to get

1379
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: a consent. It's hard to get a consensus well, because

1380
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: because there are different players that need different things different

1381
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: career right they're at different points in their career, they

1382
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: play different positions that are valued differently. You know, the

1383
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: big problem was the shrinking middle class with this current CBA,

1384
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: because you know, the elite players were getting big time

1385
01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 1: money and the rookies were getting less, but it was

1386
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: all guaranteed, so teams are on the hook for that money.

1387
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 1: So now those as Eric mentioned, those seven eight nine

1388
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: year veterans, they're signing one year veteran minimum deals and

1389
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: we've seen the Bills do that. The Bills have had

1390
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: a tricky cap situation here that Brandon Bean had to

1391
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: clean up, and for the better part of the last

1392
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 1: two seasons, a lot of veteran players have been signed

1393
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: to one year contracts and bang, they're right back in

1394
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: the market again. Now, the right kind of player who's

1395
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: got a high market value has no problem with that

1396
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 1: chance to take another kick at the cat, get another

1397
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: big contract. But the guys that are trying to hang

1398
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: on in the league get to that tenth year and

1399
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: prove what their pension's going to look like after they

1400
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: turn forty five. You know, they want to hang in

1401
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: the league as long as they can play, as long

1402
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,759
Speaker 1: as they can provided their healthy and they's always agreeing

1403
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: with them, and those opportunities seem fewer and further between.

1404
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 1: Perfect example here in the last couple of years, Garrison Sandborn,

1405
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: I mean, the former long snapper here was a guy

1406
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: that was a very consistent player, always did his job

1407
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: well as the long snapper here in Buffalo. But entering

1408
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: his eighth year, the veteran minimum for him was over

1409
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: a million dollars or upwards of nine hundred thousand dollars,

1410
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: and the Bills were in a little bit of a

1411
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: tight cap situation, and they had a guy waiting in

1412
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 1: the wings in rig Ferguson, who was significantly cheaper and

1413
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: did the job just as good. Well, what happens You

1414
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: cut Carrison Sandborn because he's only on the field for

1415
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: you maybe eight or nine times a game, and you

1416
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: save almost half a million dollars. I mean, that's just

1417
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: the business of the league and the way the CBA

1418
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: is structured. So it really costs someone like that an opportunity.

1419
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: Now he's playing it. It really doesn't matter which one's

1420
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 1: better either, right, No, it doesn't. But it puts somebody

1421
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: out of a job because there's somebody there that does

1422
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: it for less money. And that's always going to be

1423
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: the case in a lot of businesses, not just the

1424
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 1: business of professional football. But these are the kinds of

1425
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 1: things that Eric Winston has to juggle on a daily basis,

1426
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, And I think it's very hard in a

1427
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: pool that large, with that many differing preferences and desires

1428
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: to keep everybody happy. It's really it's a tough gig.

1429
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd want it. Well. One of

1430
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: the things you got to remember, too, is there are

1431
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: certain things that affect all of these guys and whether

1432
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: they know it or not, and one of the hard

1433
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: cells it's always been is telling them, listen, when you're

1434
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 1: forty five, you're gonna need medical insurance. And Richard Sherman

1435
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: today tweeted out something. Whether you like him or not,

1436
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 1: he's pretty sharp guy. He said, listen, the one thing

1437
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 1: that all players should push for his lifetime medical coverage.

1438
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: These guys need to be taken care of, because it's

1439
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: a it's a huge risk if you if you playing

1440
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: the league for any length of time, there's a good

1441
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: chance that's somewhere down the line you're gonna pay for

1442
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: it physically, right. And that's one thing and it's not

1443
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it's not that many people in

1444
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: that pool of former players and current players. And to

1445
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: have the league jump up and say, Okay, we're gonna

1446
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: have a you know, we're gonna take care of you.

1447
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: Got you get medical insurance on the n through the

1448
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 1: NFL for the rest of your go That makes a

1449
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: lot of sense to me. And I don't know how

1450
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: much would fund it, but a lot of it would be.

1451
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, it's one thing that I

1452
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: think that would make a lot of problems go away,

1453
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: at least public relations problems for the league and safety. Now,

1454
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: the devil's advocate for that would say, well, when you

1455
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: play NFL football, you are taking on an assumed risk

1456
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: and you know that, and you're trading that risk to

1457
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: your body in to get paid the way you're getting paid.

1458
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: That's the devil's advocate argument, the thing that it's valid. Yeah,

1459
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: and it is valid. But here's the thing. I asked

1460
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: Eric this question because I wanted to if he would

1461
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: give us any inkling as to what way the Players

1462
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: Association viewed it or might be choosing to go in

1463
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: the next CBA negotiation. You know, we saw Jimmy Graham

1464
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: three or four years ago argue, you know, after getting

1465
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: tagged with a tight end tag by the Saints. Hey,

1466
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm split wide ninety percent of the time. I'm catching

1467
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: eighty balls a year. I should be paid like a

1468
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Van Bell, you can try that if you

1469
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 1: want to, But that doesn't really hold water, because well,

1470
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: Levy and Bell's doing the same thing, because he's making

1471
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: the argument that I catch just as many balls as

1472
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, my teammate. He makes seventeen million a year.

1473
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: Why are you only gonna pay me fourteen. The argument

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Speaker 1: is this, it's not about comparing your position to another position.

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01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: It's but comparing your value. That's what the players want,

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01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: and that's really the fair way to do it, there's

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: no question about it. The problem is the problem is

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01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 1: this that when you're you're coming down and you're and

1479
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: that's what has always been the reason they compare your positions.

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01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: Right well, you got Jay Agi over here, and you

1481
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: got Leonard Fournette over here, and you got Lashawn McCoy here,

1482
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: and you got um, you know, Tyreek Hill in Kansas City.

1483
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: So you've got all these guys and you're trying to

1484
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: compare their value, and even among the same position, it's difficult.

1485
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: I remember I went through the same thing in my contracts.

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01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: You couldn't. I mean, I was getting compared to who

1487
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: other special teams players? Right well, one of them as

1488
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 1: a linebacker from Seattle and the other one is a

1489
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: defensive back from Atlanta or running back from you know, Arizona,

1490
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, what are we doing? It

1491
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work. So it's it's difficult to do. And I

1492
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 1: think the other thing that makes it difficult is the

1493
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 1: fact that and Eric touched on this a little bit.

1494
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: You have to remember your have nots as much as

1495
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: you have to remember your halves. So while that elite

1496
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: level where guys are saying, well, I might be a

1497
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: running back, but I'm just as productive in the passing

1498
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: game as Antonio Brown, who's a wide receiver, I should

1499
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: get paid as much as him. What's the what's the

1500
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: guy that's playing center saying? Right? What do you know?

1501
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: What I mean? He doesn't have a leg to stand

1502
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: on in this kind of an argument. The only thing

1503
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: the old adage is that a rising tide raises all

1504
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: the ships. Well, you don't want to structure the money

1505
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: in the NFL, whatever the revenue cut is for the players.

1506
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: You don't want to make it so that some guys

1507
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 1: are kites flying in the sky and everybody else is

1508
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: down on the ground. Yeah, everybody else is you know,

1509
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 1: in a mind shaft. You know, you've got to make

1510
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 1: it so they're all floating on the same economic boundaries,

1511
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 1: because if you start changing that equation, no matter how

1512
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: much money the league ever makes, is only going to

1513
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: be a handful of players getting rich and the other

1514
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 1: guys are going to be struggling along and That's why

1515
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,680
Speaker 1: that's what you're trying to avoid, and that's why it's

1516
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 1: so hard to strike a balance there and find a

1517
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: unified front for players because there are so many differing preferences, influences, grievances, situations, positions,

1518
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: different offenses that you're playing in across the league where

1519
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 1: the owners is thirty two owners say let's this is

1520
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,080
Speaker 1: what we want. Let's get it all right. You're on

1521
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live Steve Tasker and Chris Brown. We're gonna

1522
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: come back from and Brownie, you wrote a great article

1523
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: about on Camp Countdown about what Brian Dable's offense is

1524
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna look like. We're gonna talk about this at the

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01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. This is One Bills Live from

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01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:29,760
Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back from

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 1: One Bill's Lives Steve tasking Home with Chris Brown. We're

1528
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 1: talking about Players Association with a Players Association NFL Players

1529
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: Association President went Eric Winston. We're also gonna talk now

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01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour about the article you wrote, Brownie. Uh,

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01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,720
Speaker 1: what does Brian day Ball's offense gonna look like? New

1532
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? What should be expected from Brian day bless offense.

1533
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a chance. You've seen a little bit

1534
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: of it in the off season and the mini camps

1535
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What's it? You know, what's what

1536
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: are people gonna notice? Obviously it's been my contention, you're

1537
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: gonna notice a lot different because you got a completely

1538
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: different set of guys running it and taking snaps. Right, yea,

1539
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: But what are most people gonna say is different about

1540
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: this offense than it was a year ago? Well, the

1541
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: approach that I kind of took with this piece was

1542
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 1: more overview of what to expect from his offense. Obviously,

1543
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know the ins and outs of the specific

1544
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 1: x's and o's any better than anybody else because we

1545
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:32,480
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, quite frankly, but there are some underlying

1546
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 1: principles of how Dable approaches offensive scheming that will be

1547
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: in stark contrast to his predecessor Rick Dennison. The one

1548
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: that grabbed me was the one that I listed first

1549
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: in the piece, which, Yeah, talking to Charles Clay who

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01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 1: who had Dable as a rookie in Miami when he

1551
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: was the coordinator down there, he said, you know, the

1552
01:19:55,160 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: way that Dable approaches offense is he will coach his

1553
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to specifically look for the mismatch pre snap, and

1554
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 1: he will encourage them to attack those mismatches. So very often,

1555
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, you have a play called, quarterback calls to

1556
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,719
Speaker 1: play in the huddle, they come up to the line

1557
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks just reading the defense and looking where

1558
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: you know, okay, well my here's read one, here's read two,

1559
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: here's read three. Let's see how this all unfolds. And

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01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: he says, no, if read three is a mismatch, go

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: there first, go there, let's win. You know, this guy's

1562
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna beat that guy because you know he's you know

1563
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: he's from right. I mean that that guy got hurt

1564
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 1: and that's the fifth corner round on the field right now,

1565
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: throw to him. So he encourages that. He kind of

1566
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: preaches to quarterbacks to look for that mismatch every time

1567
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 1: you step up to the line of scrimmage. So basically

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01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: what Charles said to me, he said, look, don't get

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 1: me wrong, he coaches quarterbacks how to read progressions two,

1570
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: but he thinks mismatches first. So just putting that in

1571
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks thinking going out on the field every play,

1572
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: every snap, I think is something that's different, and you

1573
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 1: know what that does. And you could probably speak to

1574
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: this that excites passing targets because they know if they're

1575
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: better than the guy across from them, and if they

1576
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: know the quarterback is thinking that same thing, that guy's

1577
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 1: running his rattle a little bit hard, highly motivated target,

1578
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: no question about it. And that's one of the things

1579
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: that have has always been preached in these days when

1580
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 1: I go to these when I do games for CBS

1581
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: and go out in about the country to different teams

1582
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: other than the Buffalo Bills. The thing about an NFL offense,

1583
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 1: and you can say that's this style, it's that style. Listen.

1584
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: Teams evolve styles because of the great players they have.

1585
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: The Patriots are able to do so many different things

1586
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: offensively and use so many different pieces of that puzzle

1587
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: because they have that one piece that's taken snaps number twelve, right.

1588
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 1: Other teams like Carolina look very different offensively because they've

1589
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: a different guy taken snaps with a different skill set,

1590
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: so their offense looks better. You could be calling the

1591
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: same plays for both of those quarterbacks, coach them the

1592
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 1: same way, it's gonna look different. And teams evolve things

1593
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: that they do well, based on how good their players are.

1594
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: So even within the Buffalo Bills, it's gonna be easy

1595
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: for day Ball to start calling different plays within the

1596
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 1: same offense with Josh Allen at quarterback rather than AJ

1597
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: mccaron or Nathan Peter. So yeah, I mean, you have

1598
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the game. You've got a read option

1599
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: game you can turn to now right. I don't think

1600
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: you can do that with AJ or Peterman. You've got

1601
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: to You've got to be able. And this is and

1602
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: day Ball said this in your article. You got to

1603
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: be multiple dimensional, but you also have to be able

1604
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: to throw it. Even if they think you're gonna throw it.

1605
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: You got to be able to win. So you say, well,

1606
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,560
Speaker 1: how do you do that. The way you do that

1607
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: is by moving people around. And you say, well, isn't

1608
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,640
Speaker 1: that going to get people confused? They're gonna get crossed up.

1609
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna have too many different assignments they'll never be

1610
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: able to master at all. That goes back to how

1611
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: the scheme is taught to the players. So, you know,

1612
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: let's just talk receivers here for a second. They won't

1613
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: just teach Calvin Benjamin the ex position. You know, at receiver.

1614
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: They're going to teach him how to line up in

1615
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: the y and how to line up in this evil

1616
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 1: they say, how do you have time to do all that?

1617
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,640
Speaker 1: The way they do that is they teach the play concept.

1618
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: And maybe you can speak a little bit better to

1619
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: this than I can, just in terms of how the

1620
01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 1: player absorbs it when he's taught that way, right, And

1621
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: it's you learn what the play looks like on paper

1622
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: and why guys are doing everything they do, at least

1623
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,559
Speaker 1: at the skill positions here, not just your job, right,

1624
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: not just your job. You learn why you're doing your

1625
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: job because your teammate is doing this in his job,

1626
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: and he's doing that because the other guy's doing this

1627
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 1: in his job. And so you kind of get the

1628
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: idea of why the concept is being run the way

1629
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 1: it's run. And one of the things that does for

1630
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: you that you just don't get at the lower levels

1631
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 1: of football, and you do get it in the NFL.

1632
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: An offense can be run in such a way as

1633
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: to dictate to the defense which of their defenders is

1634
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 1: going to guard your guy. You can shift out of it.

1635
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example. You're playing in a

1636
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: game and you run this play and you run and

1637
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 1: I'll give an example. We ran a play when I

1638
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: was playing you. We shifted into a formation where the

1639
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: running back goes way out, splits out wide by himself.

1640
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: The defense checks to that defense, and we've got a mismatch, right,

1641
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: So we go in and halftime and say, hey, listen,

1642
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: when we get in this formation with our back, they've

1643
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:27,639
Speaker 1: got their safety coming down man on man, he can't

1644
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: turn his hips. We got them. So we get into

1645
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: the second half, we run that play and they don't

1646
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: shift the way they did. And the reason was we

1647
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 1: lined up and then shifted to that formation, and then

1648
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 1: when we made the adjustment, we just lined up in

1649
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: the formation, they didn't shift. You know. The shift is

1650
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: the shift is what triggered the adjustment that we wanted.

1651
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 1: We didn't do that when we when we made the adjustment,

1652
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: so it didn't work. You know, they didn't have to

1653
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: go there. They had us because when we lined up

1654
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: in it, they had a different defense, but when we

1655
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 1: shifted to that, their check was automatically to have that mismatch.

1656
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: So we didn't know it until after, you know, after that.

1657
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of thing you're looking at your

1658
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 1: offense looks for ways to get that defense in a

1659
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 1: spot where you can attack it. And you do that

1660
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: by watching and game film and game planning, and it's

1661
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to do so by teaching that in a

1662
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:22,560
Speaker 1: concept fashion, Guys like Jeremy Curley and Kelvin Benjamin not

1663
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,760
Speaker 1: only know maybe what the X is doing or what

1664
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 1: the Z is doing, they know X, Y and Z

1665
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: because they're viewing the whole play in its entirety. I

1666
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: guess similar to the way a quarterbacks money too, because

1667
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 1: you'll get it and you'll go concepts and the quarterback

1668
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: will start call stuff and the players know what's going

1669
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: They'll have two guys running for that spot because they

1670
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 1: want to be the guy. You'll say, and I got

1671
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: I want to be the guy that takes that. It

1672
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: seems it seems evident to me that Dabel is not

1673
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: a guy who wants the opponent knowing where his number

1674
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: one receivers lining up or where this guy might be

1675
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: lining up. Um and and to me, dables variations don't

1676
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: seem to be rooted only in volume. He wants to

1677
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 1: create unpredictability tempo just by the way he lines people

1678
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: up in different places or in different formations. That's the

1679
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: other way to do it. It might be the same

1680
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: play call, but the formation is completely different and who's

1681
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 1: in those spots is completely different. Also, it only put

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Speaker 1: it not only puts pressure on the defense that you're

1683
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: attacking it, it puts pressure on them schematically. They've got

1684
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: to know who's lining up where. But then they also

1685
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: have to understand that sometimes even though the receivers are

1686
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 1: all jumbled, that formation is something they've seen before, but

1687
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 1: it's confusing because it's different guys run. It's the same

1688
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: three guys at the different spots, and it doesn't click

1689
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: as to being the same formation that they've run. That's

1690
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 1: very common thing that's been done really at a lot

1691
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: of levels of football, where you use the same formation

1692
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 1: but with different personnel to get different matchups. Now you've

1693
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: got Charles Clay running that running the route out of

1694
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 1: the slot rather than Jeremy Curley or vice versa, and

1695
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: you can get matchups that way as well. So it's

1696
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: really it's complicated. I mean, it is a mishmash recipe

1697
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: and kind of a it's a solution rather than a mixture.

1698
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: You just wonder how long it's going to take for

1699
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 1: that to really kind of gain traction where it's being

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01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,560
Speaker 1: executed consistently, because the history has shown when you have

1701
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 1: an offense that's coming in, it's going to take three,

1702
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: four or five weeks of regular season football before it's

1703
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: really kind of starting to gel and click where there's

1704
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 1: that consistent execution series after series, week after week. Which

1705
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 1: is why I find I found that the last thing

1706
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 1: I mentioned in this piece to be one of the

1707
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 1: more interesting ones for day Ball and we and how

1708
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:54,759
Speaker 1: many times if Bill's fans seen this with the Patriots.

1709
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 1: The Patriots don't convert on a third down play, Brady

1710
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: rushes them up to the line, they run a sneak

1711
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 1: one yard, convert the fourth down, new set of downs,

1712
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,879
Speaker 1: and off they go. I mean, we've seen that umpteen

1713
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 1: number of times against the Bills and a whole host

1714
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: of other teams. And I think day Bole, with the

1715
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 1: time in his career that he's spent in New England,

1716
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: knows the value of that. And so I'm fully anticipating

1717
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 1: a lot of tempo variations in his scheme through the

1718
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: course of a game. Now here's the only caveat to that. Again,

1719
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about a new offense coming in and some

1720
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: green quarterbacks in terms of experience on the field. So

1721
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: how much tempo variation we're going to see in the

1722
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: first half of the season. Maybe not a whole lot.

1723
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Unless he's convinced we go fast on this team, we're

1724
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 1: gonna kill him. It's easier, though, to change your tempo

1725
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: than it is to make x's and those adjustments, because

1726
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 1: tempo is just, you know, let's go a little faster

1727
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: and do some things you don't have to really dissect.

1728
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 1: The guy's a quarterback, really doesn't think all that much more.

1729
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: He just has to go a little faster and not

1730
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: huddle up. That sometimes is an easier adjustment than all

1731
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: sudden they say, listen, we're gonna do this out of

1732
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: a different formation with different personnel, And talking to Kelvin Benjamin,

1733
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: you know he's convinced they're going to run it pretty fast.

1734
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Now I'm wondering if he's saying that based on what

1735
01:29:10,120 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: he saw on practice in the spring, where I think

1736
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: Daboll is purposely running it fast to kind of make

1737
01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: them think quickly. So when you get to match game

1738
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: speed a little bit more, because in practice it's very

1739
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: hard to match that exact tempo and get to game speed.

1740
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if he's just running it fast in practice,

1741
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 1: or if he does intend to step on the gas

1742
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: for a series, take his foot off the gas for

1743
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: another come out in the second half, roll in no huddle,

1744
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. So they're all things that I think very

1745
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: well could happen. It's just with what degree of frequency,

1746
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 1: And that's probably going to be based on opponent and

1747
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: based on matchups and a whole host of other things,

1748
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 1: most notably, who the heck your quarterback is? Right? You're

1749
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker and Chris Brown were on One Bill's

1750
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Love talking about the article on one Bills Buffalo bills

1751
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: dot Com about Brian Dable what this offense is gonna

1752
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 1: look like. It's the count down to training Camp. It's

1753
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: the next installation of that. Chris Brown writes it for

1754
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo bills dot Com. And this one one of the

1755
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: interesting points about this, As you get into the mind

1756
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: of Brian Dable on what it's going to look like,

1757
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,560
Speaker 1: you always get when your offense isn't working well. You

1758
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: always hear the exact same kind of ref refrain from fans.

1759
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: It's like it's a little predictable. They don't make adjustments

1760
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 1: to the second half. And one of the quotes that

1761
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: you had from day Ball in your in your article,

1762
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 1: it says this, and this is Brian Dable talking about adjustments.

1763
01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I've come from a school that adjustments start for the

1764
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: minute that the game starts. It's not just at halftime.

1765
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,000
Speaker 1: It could be after the first series, it could be

1766
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 1: after the third series. Until you get a feel for

1767
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 1: how the game's going and what you need to do

1768
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: and how you're getting played. There's no sense in waiting

1769
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 1: until halftime. You try. You have to try to adjust

1770
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 1: as fast as you can, and that's something that coordinators

1771
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: don't get credit. I will say in the four one

1772
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 1: on one conversations that I've had with Brian Dable since

1773
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,680
Speaker 1: he was hired, that was the most exciting thing he

1774
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: said to me since he's been hired by the Bill,

1775
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: because how many times have I mean, last year was

1776
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 1: another example of it not making proper adjustments at halftime.

1777
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: The offense goes a nimick in the second half, they

1778
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 1: can't score any points, the defense has to hold the

1779
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: fort for the balance of the last two quarters, and

1780
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: their gassed at the end of the game. Can't do

1781
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: it and the Bills lose by a field goal. We've

1782
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: seen that several times over the years. So to hear

1783
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: that this guy is not only going to make adjustments

1784
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 1: at halftime, but do it as the game unfolds, which

1785
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 1: maybe one of Belichick's best calling cards as a head

1786
01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 1: coach in the NFL, is an encouraging thing. That's not

1787
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: to say that every adjustment is going to be the

1788
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 1: right solution for whatever situation presents itself, but the fact

1789
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 1: that the guy is looking to make those kinds of

1790
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 1: adjustments from the moment the game begins is one of

1791
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 1: the most encouraging things I've ever heard from an offensive

1792
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Bills. Camp countdown number nine, What should

1793
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: we be expected from Brian day Ball's offense? Chris Brown

1794
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 1: wrote it. He's our guest host on One Bill's Live Today.

1795
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna go take a break right now, come back,

1796
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk a little bit about what we're

1797
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 1: gonna talk to Bucky Brooks coming up at the top

1798
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: of the hour. He's got some thoughts. Former Buffalo Bill

1799
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: He's an an NFL network analyst. Former Bills wide receiver.

1800
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:14,720
Speaker 1: He played for five teams, in his five year career.

1801
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,799
Speaker 1: We're gonna be back. This is One Bill's Live, presented

1802
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 1: by Kalidah Health from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio.

1803
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Life. Steve Tasker and Chris

1804
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: Brown with you today. We're talking about about Brian Dable,

1805
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 1: what his offense is gonna look like. Coming up to

1806
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, we're gonna talk with Bucky Brooks,

1807
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: an NFL Network analyst, about some best case scenarios for

1808
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 1: rookies around the league. The top ten best case worst

1809
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: case scenarios for rookies around the league on offense and defense.

1810
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: So he's got that's a lot of writing he did

1811
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: to prepare for that. One of the things, one of

1812
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: the things I always it always comes up this time

1813
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: of year, is the Madden Game comes out. Of the

1814
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: video game comes out, Antonio Brown is on the cover

1815
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: and I don't are you into that ging I mean,

1816
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 1: Brady was on last year. Hardly A James my son

1817
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: plays this game. Yeah, a good deal And there's the

1818
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: picture of that for the people watching us on MSG UM. Yeah, okay,

1819
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: I mean that's uh good for him. He's been one

1820
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: of the pre eminent performers in the league the last

1821
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: four or five years. How much do you think they

1822
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 1: take into the fact that guy's dependable, he's always there,

1823
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 1: that before they um they got to right that. Yeah,

1824
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's how much of a

1825
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: household name are you? And I think you know Madden?

1826
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: There's Madden crossover with Fantasy Football? You know that. I mean,

1827
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, young kids, teenagers, the way

1828
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: they come to know the names of the players in

1829
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: the league is by playing matt You know, when I

1830
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: was a kid, it was about having baseball and football cards.

1831
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 1: That's how you learned all the players in the league.

1832
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 1: Yet it didn't have computers. You didn't you know what

1833
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean. You didn't have a cell phone with video highlights,

1834
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: people with Instagram accounts, and I can't. This is how

1835
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: my son learned players in the league. I mean, you know,

1836
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: he knew the Bills. He's in Buffalo, he sees him

1837
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 1: on TV every week, he goes to games, all of

1838
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 1: that stuff. How does he know who the heck the

1839
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: corner the second corner is in Arizona. He plays them

1840
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 1: on Madden. That's how he knows the lineups. That's how

1841
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: all these kids know the players in the league, you know,

1842
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: because you know, I could have all kinds of conversations

1843
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: about how things have changed since we were kids, because

1844
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, there were three channels on the TV when

1845
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 1: we were kids, and a computer was the size of

1846
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: a Mac truck. And so it to see see him now,

1847
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 1: see the technology advances and the ways, the myriad of

1848
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 1: ways people digest the NFL and get access to it,

1849
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: and the level of access is phenomenal. It's unbelievable. You

1850
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 1: got game film, you can watch the all twenty two,

1851
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: you can watch condensed games, you can watch broadcasted games

1852
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:11,400
Speaker 1: all on one website, and you can get every game

1853
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I'll tell you what, for those

1854
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 1: of you who have never tried it, I hesitate to

1855
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: mention it, but the NFL red zone is heroin for

1856
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: a football junkie. I mean that I'm never because I'm

1857
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: always working right, so right, And i had a weekend off,

1858
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,640
Speaker 1: and you know, I've got all that stuff because you know,

1859
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: it's a business expense, so I get it, and I've

1860
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,280
Speaker 1: never used it because I've never been home. So last

1861
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 1: year I had a couple of weekends off and I'm

1862
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: sitting there and just and you know, I'm an old guy,

1863
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: so I've got the remote in my hand, and every time,

1864
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: every moment I'm watching the red zone, every time I

1865
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of start to raise it, they're changing it for you.

1866
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: It's like, oh wow, I feel the rush. I couldn't

1867
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: believe it's it really is is unbelievable. So you talk

1868
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 1: about and this Madden thing comes out, and there's always

1869
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: been this thing for a while. It was like the

1870
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated curse, which has gone by the wayside because

1871
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated, I mean, there's like three people who read

1872
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: it now on the paper, but it used to be

1873
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: a jinx. If you're on the cover of Madden, you're

1874
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:20,040
Speaker 1: gonna have a banger, You're gonna get injured and lose

1875
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 1: the entire year. And it's like this the Sports Illustrated

1876
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 1: jinks of who's on the cover the week of the

1877
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,559
Speaker 1: Super Bowl they lose. And we were there a couple

1878
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: of times, you know, but and we were kind of

1879
01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 1: the ones who promoted. And Steelers fans are already dealing

1880
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: with enough with Levion Bell. I'm sure they don't want

1881
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: to know that Antonio Brown's on the cover and listen

1882
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: to steel I'll tell you, yeah, that's what I gotta

1883
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: tip my hat to the Steelers. Levion Bell is a

1884
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 1: great player, and he's a hugely important player for them.

1885
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: But now they're in they're into him for one good year,

1886
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: one more good year. U let's see where it goes.

1887
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: How many three year? Three hundred and fifty touches? Four

1888
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 1: hundred touches on reception that's in week one, which we

1889
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 1: have too. I mean they are gonna exhaust that dude,

1890
01:37:04,320 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: they are. They are running that tank empty. Are you not? Well?

1891
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean you can make the argument that it is

1892
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 1: somewhat of a go for it year here, knowing this

1893
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: is Bell's probably his last year in a Steeler's uniform.

1894
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're I don't know if you're replacing. Well.

1895
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Ben has changed his tune on how much longer he's

1896
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: playing after he sees what his fellow quarterbacks are signing for.

1897
01:37:26,200 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: Holy Crow, I can make thirty million in a year,

1898
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: well Mountain, Yeah, I could play the thirty eight. Did

1899
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: he change his tune really quick when he saw the

1900
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,919
Speaker 1: kind of money that was getting thrown around for quarterbacks?

1901
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:38,280
Speaker 1: And he's got two Super Bowl rings on his resume, So,

1902
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think he'll be playing a couple more years.

1903
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: But Bell, while I think running backs are probably you

1904
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 1: would make the argument the most replaceable commodity in football.

1905
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 1: Are you replacing Bell's level of production right away? I don't,

1906
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you are. I

1907
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 1: think you could draft a running back high next year

1908
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: and get comparable rushing production. But I don't know if

1909
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the dual threat production that he what

1910
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 1: do you have? Eighty eight catches last year? Might get out?

1911
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:12,519
Speaker 1: He can draft Alvin Kamara in the fifth round. I mean,

1912
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:16,560
Speaker 1: there's could What is the likelihood of that. I don't know.

1913
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I've always he's high end.

1914
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he really is high end, and in my mind,

1915
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 1: in my mind, the Steelers contract offer was a high

1916
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: end offer. Oh you're paying him almost twice as much

1917
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,600
Speaker 1: as any other running back in the league. So I

1918
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: don't know what I got, no problem. I mean there's

1919
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 1: some there are some Steelers fans that I've seen on

1920
01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: message boards saying and tweeting, I'm glad that he didn't

1921
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: take it, because I would have been mad if the

1922
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: Steelers gave him that deal, all right. Well, so there

1923
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 1: you go. Antonio Brown is the cover of Madden and

1924
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 1: Money's out of control. But that's all right. Also, we

1925
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 1: have our Twitter question, which AFC East quarterback is under

1926
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: the most pressure as training camp begins. There's a ton

1927
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,639
Speaker 1: of list of guys, not only the starters, but all

1928
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: the back cups that are on there as well. This

1929
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: is One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health from One

1930
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. We'll be back with Bucky Brooks right after this.

1931
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network Stories Update.

1932
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 1: Tonight at the sp Awards, Jim Kelly will receive the

1933
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy V. Award for Perseverance. Kelly has been diagnosed with

1934
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,960
Speaker 1: cancer three times in the last five years, and the

1935
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback becomes the second former Bills player

1936
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: to receive the award. Former tight end Kevin Everett was

1937
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: honored in two thousand and eight. Around the NFL. After

1938
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: eleven seasons that featured eleven Pro Bowl appearances and one

1939
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship, Durrell Revas has decided to call it

1940
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,839
Speaker 1: a career. Revas released a statement on Instagram Wednesday, announcing

1941
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: he's retiring from the NFL, and he finishes his career

1942
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 1: with twenty nine interceptions. After acquiring wide receiver Brandon Cooked

1943
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,839
Speaker 1: in an offseason trade with the Patriots, the Los Angeles

1944
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 1: Rams have extended Cook's contract days before the start of

1945
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: training camp. It's a reported five year extension worth eighty

1946
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: one million dollars. Cardinals general manager Steve Kim was jailed

1947
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 1: last Tuesday evening after pleading guilty to extreme DUI. He's

1948
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: scheduled to be released on Thursday, but this follows his

1949
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 1: July fourth arrest on suspicion of driving under the influence.

1950
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: The Cardinals have suspended Kime for five weeks and find

1951
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 1: him two hundred thousand dollars. The Jacksonville Jaguars have signed

1952
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 1: their first round pick, the twenty ninth overall pick, defensive

1953
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 1: tackle Tavn Bryant. He inks his rookie deal a week

1954
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 1: before the Jags report to camp. This now leaves ten

1955
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 1: first round picks unsigned, including Buffalo Bill's quarterback Josh Allen.

1956
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 1: A big trade in the NBA, the Spurs have agreed

1957
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: to trade Kawhi Leonard to and Danny Green to the

1958
01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors. For Damar Rosen, Yakob Protle, I'm sorry, Yaka Purdle,

1959
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: and a two nineteen first round draft pick. Kauwhai only

1960
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 1: appeared in nine games last week with the Spurs due

1961
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 1: to a quadriceps injury he suffered during the twenty seventeen playoffs,

1962
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: and finally, in baseball, the Bison's wrapping up a three

1963
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: game set with the Norfolk Tides. The first pitch was

1964
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Speaker 1: at one o'clock and currently in the fourth ending it

1965
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 1: is two to two, and that is your sports update.

1966
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: We are pleased now to be joined by former Buffalo

1967
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:28,880
Speaker 1: Bill current NFL network analyst and writer for NFL dot Com.

1968
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 1: I played for five teams in a five year career

1969
01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,799
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, Bucky Brooks, Buckie, Steve Tasker,

1970
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown. Thanks for coming on with us, Man,

1971
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Hey, thanks so much for having me

1972
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 1: off seven. Hey Man, talk a little bit about I

1973
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: was interested. I know this is a big undertaking. He'd

1974
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,679
Speaker 1: picked like top rookies on both sides of the football

1975
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: and gave us your best case, worst case scenarios for

1976
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: all ten of these guys, and give us a little

1977
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: idea of maybe what are some of the surprising findings

1978
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 1: you had when he started to dig into what could

1979
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,080
Speaker 1: happen to some of these early rookies in there. I

1980
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 1: know it's all conjecture, you know nothing. You know, we

1981
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: don't know anything that happens to these guys for sure,

1982
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,719
Speaker 1: But what are some of the surprising things you uncovered

1983
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,680
Speaker 1: in researching this article about the best case, worst case

1984
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: scenario for these guys? Well, I mean, I think the

1985
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 1: biggest thing that makes it hard to project what players

1986
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: are going to do so many quarterbacks and uncertain situations.

1987
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: Never before have we seen so many rookies that are

1988
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 1: drafted high that may or may not be thrown into

1989
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:28,720
Speaker 1: the starting lineup. The trend of late has been the

1990
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: drafty young quarterback, put him immediately onto the field, see

1991
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 1: what it can do the first year, then build a

1992
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,439
Speaker 1: team around him in year two. But what you hear

1993
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,600
Speaker 1: from some of these situations, those rookie quarterbacks may not

1994
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 1: be rushed onto the field, So it kind of leads

1995
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: you to wonder how much will they play as first

1996
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 1: year players. It would seem to me, though, that if

1997
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: any of them have a good shot, it's probably Rosen

1998
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: in Arizona, who I know, when pressed the heck out

1999
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff there in the spring. You know,

2000
01:42:57,200 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: just with his football acumen and processing stuff out on

2001
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the field, seeing it early, delivering the football with confidence

2002
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:09,080
Speaker 1: and consistency. Is that part of the reason why you

2003
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,479
Speaker 1: have his passing numbers, you know, among the highest of

2004
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 1: the group in this class. Yeah, I think so. I

2005
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: think when you look at that situation, this situation kind

2006
01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: of plays out where he might end up being the

2007
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. That's on point, not necessarily because he's more

2008
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: talented to Sam Bradford at this stage, which is based

2009
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 1: on Sam Bradford's history. He's got a tough time being

2010
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: on the field and being available for sixteen games. When

2011
01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: you hear the conversation coming out of Arizona you talked

2012
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: to the officials, if they look at the kid has

2013
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 1: been more impressive than we thought. He handled the offense very,

2014
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,600
Speaker 1: very easily. He's very impressive when he was running to

2015
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: know huddle offense. If it wasn't for the fact that

2016
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford had more experience than him, I would say

2017
01:43:48,160 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: that they're probably to a very very comfortable rolling out

2018
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Josh Roden as a day one starter. And it's interesting

2019
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: to think about because there is so much riding on

2020
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks. It was a big draft. I think

2021
01:43:58,600 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 1: it was a most exciting offseason and for a long

2022
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,840
Speaker 1: time because there was a lot of hype about and

2023
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 1: there's both a lot of positives and a lot of

2024
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: negatives about each of these quarterbacks. And one of the

2025
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,800
Speaker 1: other things about it was that you go down further

2026
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,639
Speaker 1: in the draft guys like se Quon Barkley, Bradley Chubb,

2027
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,560
Speaker 1: guys like that who were passed over because of the

2028
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. Those guys were looked at as right, like

2029
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 1: more can't miss talents coming out of college. So what

2030
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 1: about their upside and their downside? What are the chances

2031
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 1: that we see at Bradley Chub or a sa Quon

2032
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Barkley actually explode onto the scene and really do the

2033
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 1: kind of things that their physical ability would would suggest.

2034
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 1: I think this draft could be very, very similar to

2035
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: the twenty eleven draft. Dead draft was the one where

2036
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: Cam Newton were first. But then I want to say,

2037
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 1: eleven of the picks after that all earned Pro Bowl

2038
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:53,559
Speaker 1: Verse desk to Marcel Darius von Miller, Patrick Peterson, J. J. Watt,

2039
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: All those guys came and performed at a very very

2040
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 1: high level. When you look at the position players in

2041
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: this draft, all each sequon Barkley, they had blueship talent

2042
01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: written all over them. They're the kind of guys that

2043
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: in most jack classes they will be the number one

2044
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 1: overall pick. But for whatever reason, teams elected to take

2045
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: the gamble and go for the quarterback. And now we'll

2046
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 1: have to see how that plays out as it goes

2047
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 1: down the line. I think the quarterbacks were a little

2048
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: more uncertain than the position players, but we'll see, because

2049
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: it's easy to make that determination when you don't have

2050
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback on the center. Yeah, you're right. I mean

2051
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to be when you're you're drafting a little

2052
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: bit for need. You're also drafting a little bit to

2053
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 1: you know, to try and roll the dice a little bit,

2054
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 1: but you're also trying to take the best player available.

2055
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 1: And when you slice it, and when there's four or

2056
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: five players at that spot at the quarterback, which is

2057
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 1: such an important position, how you not only how you

2058
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 1: evaluate those five guys, but also how you think other

2059
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: teams are going to evaluate them in that draft class

2060
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,559
Speaker 1: becomes paramount. It's it's it's like a spy novel trying

2061
01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 1: to figure out who's going to take who and how

2062
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,679
Speaker 1: who's gonna draft trade up to get to that spot.

2063
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: So I thought this was one of the most, like

2064
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 1: you said, since two thousand, this is one of the

2065
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: most intriguing drafts in its strategies that we've seen in

2066
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: recent memory. Yeah. Absolutely, You know the thing about it,

2067
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 1: there are many different ways that you can build your team,

2068
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 1: and I know the league has become more of a

2069
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:21,040
Speaker 1: passing league. Everyone is obsessed with finding the young quarterback

2070
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: and having the right coordinated to go with them. But

2071
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: if you're unsure about the quarterback, you can never go

2072
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:30,759
Speaker 1: along taking good players. And we have seen that teams

2073
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 1: that have really good players on the perimeter can elevate

2074
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:37,120
Speaker 1: the play of a quarterback that may be a mid

2075
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 1: level quarterback. We saw that last season with Case Kingdom

2076
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. We've seen countless other examples of teams loading

2077
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,479
Speaker 1: up on scale guys, blue chip skill guys to elevate them.

2078
01:46:47,800 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: I seek the same that you have to be able

2079
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:50,360
Speaker 1: to do, is you have to be able to look

2080
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,559
Speaker 1: at your roster and look at your team and kind

2081
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:54,880
Speaker 1: of figure out exactly what you have. If you have

2082
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 1: an A level quarterback. A level quarterback can lift up

2083
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,559
Speaker 1: an average the what he cast. However, if you don't

2084
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 1: have an A level quarterback, the triumph around him would

2085
01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: be level talent. You're only going to be an average team.

2086
01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:10,599
Speaker 1: You really have to do hard assessments of your own

2087
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: personnel when you're going to the draft and make sure

2088
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: that you get the right guys for your team to

2089
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: elevate your squad. Now, I know you just did projected

2090
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 1: stats for all these players offense, end, defense, Bucky, and

2091
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: so naturally the first thing people are going to do,

2092
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: and I was as guilty of this as anybody was.

2093
01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Look at the projected stats that you had for each

2094
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:32,599
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks, not only in terms of total production

2095
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: in terms of passing yards and tds versus interceptions, but

2096
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: the completion rate. And you know, obviously Josh Allen you

2097
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,839
Speaker 1: had listed here with the lowest completion rate. You projected

2098
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: him at about fifty five percent. I think Darnold was

2099
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: next lowest with fifty eight Were you just simply projecting

2100
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 1: from college statistics there, or do you think some of

2101
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 1: the same things that maybe these guys struggled with in

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01:47:55,960 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: college could rear their ugly heads first year rookies, well,

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01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:05,120
Speaker 1: normally it always kind of ruses a head. It's rare

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01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 1: that a quarterback in college is able to come into

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01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:09,839
Speaker 1: the league right away and light it up and perform

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01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 1: at a level that exceeds what he did in college.

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01:48:12,880 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: I think the same for Josh Allen and even Sam

2108
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: Donald to this point. But for Josh Allen, Josh Allen

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01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: has never been a sixty percent completion percent passers, not

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01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: in high school, not in junior college, not in college. Man.

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01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 1: You can try and build some layups into the passing game,

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01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: but that's not really his game. And even in saying that,

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01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 1: I've said that when you look at Josh Allen, I

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01:48:34,040 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: think you need to look at Cam Newton and Cam

2115
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: Newton's progression. Cam Newton has never really been a sixty

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01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 1: percent passer. However, he has been able to be very,

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01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: very productive because the offense you'll said meming with the

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01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers have had a downhill running attack. They have

2119
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: a vertical passing game, and when you push the ball

2120
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: further than the field, your completion percentage is going to

2121
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: come down. But you're hoping that the explosive plays off

2122
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,719
Speaker 1: set that I believe when you look at Josh Allen

2123
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 1: and you have the familiarity between the general manager and

2124
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: the head coach and a Cam Newton site, I believe

2125
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 1: that there's some synergy in terms of how they look

2126
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,160
Speaker 1: at Josh Allen, how they look at Cam Newton, and

2127
01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 1: how they planned to build this offense around the talent.

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01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 1: He writes for NFL dot Com and he's an NFL

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01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:19,759
Speaker 1: Network analyst. He's a former Buffalo Bills wide receiver. Bucky

2130
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: Brooks is on one Bills Live and Bucky, I want

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01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 1: to switch gears for a minute. He also wrote some

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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,639
Speaker 1: things about some quarterbacks who you thought think might break

2133
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: have breakout season, and some about some guys you think

2134
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 1: might be overrated, and talk about Patrick Mahomes with the

2135
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs traded with the Buffalo Bills

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01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:39,040
Speaker 1: last year to jump up and get Mahomes. He sat

2137
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: behind Alex Smith last year and now they've handed him

2138
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: the reins. And this is kind of the scenario for

2139
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,800
Speaker 1: all these young quarterbacks we've just been talking about. The

2140
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs have done it exactly in the best case scenario

2141
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 1: of the way to bring a guy along slowly and

2142
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 1: then give him the team unfettered with by dealing Alex

2143
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 1: Smith and turned over Patrick and Holmes no competition, give

2144
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: him the team. He's had a year to learn. How

2145
01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 1: do you and you think this might be the perfect

2146
01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: way to handle Mahomes. Yeah, I think it may be

2147
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: the perfect way to handle him. And a few different

2148
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: veins like one you gott of Alex Manisshire able to

2149
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: ring some draft picks back for that you had him

2150
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,600
Speaker 1: sit for You really served as an apprenticeship, but you

2151
01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 1: gave him a start. He got a real start at

2152
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season where he had the entire team,

2153
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: He had all the rest of the last week of

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01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:28,559
Speaker 1: the season, and he went in and he performed pretty

2155
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 1: well against the Denver Broncos, let him back to a win,

2156
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: had a game winning drives. You were able to watch

2157
01:50:34,120 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes developed on the practice field and then you

2158
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 1: were able to figure out what do we need to

2159
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:42,559
Speaker 1: help him play at his vest to one the all season.

2160
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: They go and get another speed receiver in Sammy Watkins.

2161
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 1: So now when you look at their wide receiver corps,

2162
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: you have Sammy Watkins, you have Tyreek Hiell, you have

2163
01:50:50,479 --> 01:50:53,200
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. I mean those are three I think you

2164
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,760
Speaker 1: could say B plus A minus level receivers that can

2165
01:50:56,800 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 1: help him. You have a talented runner in Kareem Hunt

2166
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: who also can kiss the ball out of the backfield.

2167
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: So now what you're asking your young quarterback to do

2168
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,559
Speaker 1: is to really be a point guard on the basketball court,

2169
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:09,959
Speaker 1: run the fast break, give the ball to the oprahman,

2170
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,280
Speaker 1: and allow those guys to do the work. I think

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01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 1: when you look at what Kansas City did, you look

2172
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 1: at what the Philadelphia Eagles and La Brown did a

2173
01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,760
Speaker 1: season ago, they all kind of used that model. I

2174
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:23,680
Speaker 1: think that is the model that teams are going to

2175
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 1: use going forward. Play the young guy early, and then

2176
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,280
Speaker 1: in the second year figure out what pieces you need

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01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,000
Speaker 1: around him to allow him to play at a higher level. Now,

2178
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:37,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned Jared Goffbucky, and we know that coach McVeigh

2179
01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: had an interesting approach with him. They would call the

2180
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 1: play early so that Goff could get up to the

2181
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: line before the cutoff with fifteen seconds on the play clock,

2182
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 1: where McVeigh could literally talk to him and help him

2183
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: through the defensive coverage that he was looking at pre snap.

2184
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:57,440
Speaker 1: With these young quarterbacks, do you anticipate a trend developing

2185
01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 1: there with offensive coordinators kind of getting teams up to

2186
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the line fast so they can be chatting with their

2187
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:08,160
Speaker 1: young quarterback as much as possible before the play. Well,

2188
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 1: I think so. But you know the funny thing is,

2189
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: I think that was the fact that that they stipen

2190
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,240
Speaker 1: renewing the Patriots and what Tom Brady and Joshmin Gamers

2191
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 1: have been doing for years. Tom Brady has talked about

2192
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 1: you want to play fast so you can get to

2193
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 1: the line and have more information given to you. Josh M.

2194
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: Gunners able to feed that information in the ear. Now,

2195
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 1: thinking about the young quarterback, if you go all the

2196
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: way back to high school football, I coach high school

2197
01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: football out here in LA. That's what we do. A

2198
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 1: young quarterback they play at Temple, they get to the line,

2199
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 1: they bluffed the SIGNA called. Then what do you do?

2200
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: They look to the sideline, the offensive coordinator marks out

2201
01:52:41,439 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 1: what they should do, and they help them go forward. Now,

2202
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 1: you originally don't like to have a quarterback play with

2203
01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 1: those kind of training wheels, but if it's a part

2204
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,680
Speaker 1: of the game and you have the ability to do that,

2205
01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: why would you not take advantage of the rules to

2206
01:52:55,479 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: help your young quarterback have the aids to be able

2207
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:00,560
Speaker 1: to play at a high level. I think it was

2208
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: brilliant for Sei McDade to do it. I know they

2209
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 1: did it before with Kirk Cousins. I think you will

2210
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 1: certainly see more offensive coordinators try to play with a

2211
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:11,000
Speaker 1: little more tempo trackerase their guys to get in and

2212
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 1: out of the little faster so they can have more

2213
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: time to process. And what were their quarterback They have

2214
01:53:16,160 --> 01:53:17,960
Speaker 1: to make the right decisions. Yeah, after all, they are

2215
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 1: coaches and it's their job to help him. And why

2216
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't you use those the loopholes in the rules to

2217
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:24,800
Speaker 1: do that? And it makes perfect sense to me and

2218
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: one of them as you talk about these young quarterbacks

2219
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: and how they've developed them, some of the things the

2220
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:32,080
Speaker 1: coordinators have done to do that. Last year, the forty

2221
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: nine Ers got Jimmy Garoppolo mid season or early in

2222
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: the season, and they sat him for four weeks and

2223
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,760
Speaker 1: then finally he got a start and in the last

2224
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 1: six games of the season they went they ran the

2225
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,640
Speaker 1: table and went six to zero. And nevertheless, you might

2226
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,720
Speaker 1: think the easy pick is to say the Niners are

2227
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna make a big lead forward. Are you not convinced

2228
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 1: of that? Or are you you know? I think it

2229
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: may be tougher for them to just go around. I

2230
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: do believe what they did with Jimmy Garoppolo outstanding was

2231
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 1: brilliant to not rush him onto the field, to give

2232
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 1: him four or five weeks to really learn as much

2233
01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 1: as he could of the offense before they put him

2234
01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 1: out there. I think that's why he played will I

2235
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: think the big thame for Jimmy Garoffalo will now be

2236
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 1: how does he react to the way the defensive coordinators

2237
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 1: adjust to him? None of ye has five games on

2238
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: take and everybody's been able to fall over the tape.

2239
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Look at his game, look at the tendency, Look at

2240
01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: any tails that he may have. How does he react

2241
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: when people adjust their coverages to take away his layups?

2242
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 1: Does he have the ability to find alternatives to attack

2243
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: the defense? That's the difference between being good and great

2244
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 1: in this league. Can you always adjust when the defense

2245
01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 1: is adjusting? We will see that, and because I believe

2246
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: there will be some struggles, there will be a bit

2247
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 1: of a transition. I'm not all the way inn on

2248
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,000
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine is making a big jump.

2249
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 1: I do believe Jimmy Garoffalo will be a good quarterback,

2250
01:54:56,160 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 1: I just believe, And that second year of starting, I

2251
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: think it may be a little more trying as he

2252
01:55:01,240 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 1: began to deal with the defensive coordinators get a little

2253
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: more into to his game, particularly within Cali Shanahan's system. Yeah,

2254
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of like baseball, you know, with a new

2255
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: call up from the Triple A. You know, the pitcher

2256
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: comes in, nobody's got a real scouting report on him,

2257
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: or a field for him, what's his out pitch and

2258
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: all that, And after seeing him after the first two

2259
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 1: at bats, the third at beat, they're like tagging the

2260
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 1: guy and they're like, whoa, what happened there? He was

2261
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 1: cruising that first six innings. And it's kind of the

2262
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 1: same thing with these quarterbacks that have only been on

2263
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: the field for six or seven games. I wanted to

2264
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,800
Speaker 1: flip it over the defensive side real quick, Bucky, you know,

2265
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:37,680
Speaker 1: with some of these forecasts for the eleven defensive rookies

2266
01:55:37,720 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 1: you picked because I was drawn to the comparison between

2267
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, the first round pick of the Chicago Bears,

2268
01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 1: and Tremaine Edmonds, the first round pick of the Bills.

2269
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,760
Speaker 1: Their second first round pick and you had their stats

2270
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,680
Speaker 1: pretty comparable. I think he gave five more tackles to

2271
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith in your projection. You gave one more sack

2272
01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 1: to Tremaine Edmonds in your projection. But their number is

2273
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 1: largely the same, close to one hundred tackles, a couple

2274
01:56:03,680 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 1: of sacks, you know, maybe a pick or two here

2275
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 1: or there. But the interesting thing for me is Smith's

2276
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna be playing inside linebacker in a three to four

2277
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 1: in Chicago alongside Danny Trevathan, and you've got Tremaine Edmonds

2278
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: as the quarterback of the defense here in Buffalo in

2279
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,520
Speaker 1: a four to three. Do you really see either of

2280
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:26,000
Speaker 1: their production? I mean, I kind of think Tremaine Edmonds

2281
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: is gonna be all over the field. He's gonna be

2282
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 1: a three down guy. What do you kind of see

2283
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 1: with Roquan Smith that's gonna make his numbers pretty comparable

2284
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,640
Speaker 1: to that of Edmonds. I think when you go back

2285
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: and you look at both of their games, both of

2286
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: these guys are disruptive playmakers. Both of them have the

2287
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: speed to be stile on the fat line, didn't run playmakers.

2288
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,280
Speaker 1: I think the big team for Roquan Smith in the

2289
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,720
Speaker 1: three four defense, I am expecting Dick than Joe to

2290
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: use them much like he uses Patrick Willis during his

2291
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: time in San Francisco. They don't cover him up and

2292
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 1: they want to allow him to be the guy that

2293
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 1: really makes a ton of play. I would just beg

2294
01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: Danny Treve team to be a guy at it's more

2295
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: of a plugger, kind of the Mac linebacker that kind

2296
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: of takes on and they kind of allow work on

2297
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Smith to run and chase because that's what he did

2298
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: really really well at Georgia. I think that Edmonds, I

2299
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: think he falls into a nice situation because Tom McDermott

2300
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 1: has a blueprint for being able to take a player

2301
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 1: like that and have to test. He did it with

2302
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: lou Keekley. He also had su test with Thomas Davis.

2303
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:25,520
Speaker 1: I believe Jermaine Emmons, his versatility, his ability to make

2304
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: plays and a bunch of different capacities is going to

2305
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,320
Speaker 1: allow him to be a star on that defense. And

2306
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 1: when you really look at that defense, particularly in the

2307
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 1: front seven, I don't know how many stars are there,

2308
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: but I believe he is the guy that you really

2309
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 1: can build that defense around. He is a young player,

2310
01:57:40,840 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 1: talking about twenty years old. Just time to find his game.

2311
01:57:43,440 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 1: But he has free kids, physical attributes, and athleticism. He

2312
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: is a perfect player to be a guy that you

2313
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,200
Speaker 1: kind of make the face of your franchise on the

2314
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: defense side of the ball. And Buffalore, Yeah, I mean Bucky.

2315
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: I mean we're out here watching spring practice. I mean

2316
01:57:56,160 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 1: he's a head taller in the huddle than anybody. I mean,

2317
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: he's a linebacker. He's like and you know Lorenzo, Lorenzo Alexander,

2318
01:58:04,280 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 1: who's seen a lot of football players in this league

2319
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 1: over his twelve years. I mean he said, the kids

2320
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:13,080
Speaker 1: a freak. He's an absolute freak, like ridiculous arms that

2321
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: go on for days, runs like a deer. He said,

2322
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:19,400
Speaker 1: He's ridiculous. So people are getting pretty hyped up about

2323
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,480
Speaker 1: you know, what he can be for this defense, which

2324
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel is canna take

2325
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:26,960
Speaker 1: another step forward? Bucky. Ask you. I gotta ask you

2326
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: a question too. You listed all these top draft picks

2327
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,120
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball as rookies, and

2328
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:34,360
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about one in particular, the

2329
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,080
Speaker 1: first cornerback taken by the Browns, Denzel Ward. I mean,

2330
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 1: last year we had Marshawn Lattimore, explode onto the seat

2331
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, Turdavious White here in Buffalo, two of

2332
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,640
Speaker 1: the top corners in the league last year as rookies,

2333
01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: and then of course the young guy Jalen Ramsey. Also,

2334
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: they're all under twenty five years old. They're all really young.

2335
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,960
Speaker 1: Is does Cleveland find the same thing in Denzel Ward?

2336
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 1: What kind of player is he gonna be as the

2337
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:59,360
Speaker 1: top corner? Taken well, you taught the coach. It believes

2338
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 1: he's special. They believe the guy is an opportunity to

2339
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,360
Speaker 1: be kind of an all star difference maker right away.

2340
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:08,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna take on the challenge of having to handle

2341
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:11,880
Speaker 1: the number one receiver. He may get an opportunity to

2342
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,040
Speaker 1: shut over the guys right away, which is unheard of

2343
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 1: for a first year player. He smoothed, he slew it.

2344
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 1: He's athletic, he's very very passionate about the game. I

2345
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: had opportunity to speak to him a couple of weeks

2346
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,400
Speaker 1: ago that a defend in Dallas, and look, he's wired

2347
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 1: the right way. And I think the common denominated between

2348
01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:34,280
Speaker 1: all the guys that you mentioned ramdy Stated's wife. These

2349
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: guys are very very passionate about football. They played a

2350
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 1: lot of football coming up. They're really into the preparation

2351
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: part of it, and that is going to give them

2352
01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity to have a lot of success. I'm really

2353
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 1: excited about the corners that are in the league today,

2354
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,840
Speaker 1: the young guys in particular. All of these guys have

2355
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 1: the length, the versatility, and a very toolbox that allows

2356
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 1: them to use a bunch of different techniques to be

2357
01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 1: the kind of players that kind of owned the game

2358
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: for a long time of their position. One thing, last

2359
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 1: thing I would ask you about, Bucky, and I agree

2360
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:07,320
Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent on this. You said the

2361
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 1: stuff about coming out about Levion Bell. One of the

2362
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:11,520
Speaker 1: I think the CBA when it comes up, one of

2363
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 1: the big top topics and perhaps points of contention for

2364
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 1: the between the league and the players is going to

2365
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 1: be the franchise tag. Levion Bell turned down an enormous

2366
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:23,360
Speaker 1: offer from the Pittsburgh's Theaters to play for fourteen and

2367
02:00:23,440 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 1: a half million bucks this year. I think something's going

2368
02:00:26,960 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 1: to be done with the way players are exposed to

2369
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 1: free agency at the end of their rookie contract. What

2370
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:34,440
Speaker 1: do you think, Yeah, I mean, I think I think

2371
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,240
Speaker 1: it certainly can be done. I think what's interesting about

2372
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:41,360
Speaker 1: the Levan Bell piece is one of the running back position.

2373
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 1: How is the value The way it's been talked about

2374
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:48,400
Speaker 1: in media circles has kind of diminished the way he

2375
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 1: stays see that position. But Steve, I'm very interacted by

2376
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: the time I spend in Buffalo and seeing Thurman and

2377
02:00:54,480 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 1: Cotton and those other guys in the impact that they

2378
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,640
Speaker 1: can make. I think when you think about the franchise

2379
02:00:59,720 --> 02:01:02,520
Speaker 1: tag and the guaranteed money that players want to have,

2380
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 1: I think more players are learning how to use the

2381
02:01:05,360 --> 02:01:08,839
Speaker 1: leverage of the franchise tag to get these short NBA

2382
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,360
Speaker 1: light deal to give them a lot of money quickly,

2383
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: as opposed to these sluffed out deals they really don't

2384
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of guaranteed money that look much bigger

2385
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: than they appear when people see the deal flashed across

2386
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: the bottom of the screen when they're watching the Sports Kicker. Yeah,

2387
02:01:24,640 --> 02:01:27,560
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. Bucky Brooks. He's an NFL analyst,

2388
02:01:28,040 --> 02:01:31,920
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com writer, NFL network analyst, former wide receiver

2389
02:01:31,960 --> 02:01:34,520
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, was a former teammate of

2390
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,440
Speaker 1: Mine's great here in front of you. You're doing great work.

2391
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 1: I love the stuff you're right, and thanks so much

2392
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: for being on one Bills Live with Us. Bucky, Hey,

2393
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: thanks so much for having me on. Guys. Bucky was

2394
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:47,680
Speaker 1: a really good player, and he's one of those guys

2395
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,680
Speaker 1: that got caught back in the days when I played,

2396
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:50,960
Speaker 1: trying to make a team that was going to the

2397
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 1: super Bowl every year coming in and it was a

2398
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: tough roster to make. But that guy, as you can

2399
02:01:55,400 --> 02:01:57,320
Speaker 1: tell from talking to him, how sharp he was and

2400
02:01:57,880 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 1: intelligent he was, and the stuff he's talking about with

2401
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,440
Speaker 1: these young players in the NFL and where they're playing

2402
02:02:04,040 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 1: really interesting because it's easy to see a best case

2403
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:09,080
Speaker 1: scenario and a worst case scenario, but you know, too,

2404
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:12,000
Speaker 1: there's probably for most of them, it's gonna be somewhere

2405
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 1: in the middle. Right. And the only one I didn't

2406
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 1: get a chance to ask him about was Tremaine's brother,

2407
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,720
Speaker 1: who's gonna be playing three three hours down the road

2408
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,600
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh as a safety. You know he's coming in

2409
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:26,480
Speaker 1: there and we kind of know how things work in Pittsburgh,

2410
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,720
Speaker 1: like and he wrote it, I mean, you've got to

2411
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: earn your way on the field under Tomlin. And he

2412
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 1: doesn't just plug any rookie into the lineup unless they're exceptional.

2413
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:37,880
Speaker 1: You know, they made him a first round pick, but

2414
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 1: you know he's got a veteran at safety and at

2415
02:02:40,960 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 1: free safety and Morgan Burnett in front of him. But

2416
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 1: if he comes on and can be the playmaker that

2417
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: they're looking for in center field, you know, there's a

2418
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 1: chance he could get on the field before his rookie

2419
02:02:53,160 --> 02:02:58,360
Speaker 1: year is out and kind of unseat Morgan Burnett. You know,

2420
02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: Sean Davis is a good strong safety for them, and

2421
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:06,000
Speaker 1: they're really missing that playmaker now after the Ryan Shazier

2422
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 1: spinal cord injury last year, they need somebody to really

2423
02:03:10,240 --> 02:03:13,320
Speaker 1: kind of step up and be that difference maker in

2424
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,520
Speaker 1: the in the middle of their defense. For years it

2425
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:19,200
Speaker 1: was Palamalu and then Chazier has had kind of stepped

2426
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:23,960
Speaker 1: into that playmakers leading type role. Yeah, and he was

2427
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,280
Speaker 1: able to stay on the field for different situations very fast.

2428
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:29,160
Speaker 1: It was one of those new linebackers and he saw

2429
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs last year. The Jacksonville Jaguars, they've

2430
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,880
Speaker 1: got linebackers that are built like strong safeties, but they

2431
02:03:35,960 --> 02:03:38,680
Speaker 1: can flood, they can really scoot, and if you look

2432
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 1: at the back seven for the Steelers right now, there

2433
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:44,400
Speaker 1: really isn't that guy in their defense, and you have

2434
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 1: to believe that the Steelers are hoping, maybe not as

2435
02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:51,840
Speaker 1: a rookie, but eventually Tremaine Edmund's brother Tarrell, can step

2436
02:03:51,920 --> 02:03:54,000
Speaker 1: into that kind of a role and be that kind

2437
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 1: of a difference maker in the back seven for their defense.

2438
02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:58,920
Speaker 1: It's probably going to be a pretty good Christmas for

2439
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: the Edmunds house with Terrell and Terrell, Terrell and Tremaine

2440
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:05,440
Speaker 1: being both being picked in the first round of the

2441
02:04:05,560 --> 02:04:08,200
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and their brother Trey is a is a

2442
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:11,480
Speaker 1: reserve running back in New Orleans. It's crazy. That's a

2443
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:15,280
Speaker 1: ridiculous family, isn't the deal? What's in the waterdowns though?

2444
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: All right? Chris Brown Steve Tasker on One Bills Live.

2445
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: We're to come back at the bottom of the hour.

2446
02:04:20,040 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to NFL True False and One Bills

2447
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,280
Speaker 1: Live presented by Kalida Health. We'll be right back from

2448
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: one Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

2449
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: to One Bills Live and it's time now for NFL

2450
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 1: True False, brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's

2451
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:48,280
Speaker 1: artists and cheese. Okay, Brownie here we go. We got

2452
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 1: three of these. We'll try to get to all of them.

2453
02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:55,400
Speaker 1: Outside of quarterbacks. NFL's true false. Outside of quarterbacks, Ezekiel

2454
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Elliott is the most indispensable offensive player in the National

2455
02:04:59,080 --> 02:05:01,080
Speaker 1: Football League. Would you like to go first? You want

2456
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:05,200
Speaker 1: me to, I'll go first. I'm gonna say false. All right, Um,

2457
02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:07,600
Speaker 1: Now this is outside of the quarterback so you know, no,

2458
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like not counting quarterback, right, No,

2459
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, I would. I could come up

2460
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:16,480
Speaker 1: with two or three that I would that I would.

2461
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:21,520
Speaker 1: I would go Antonio Brown. Okay, on the cover of

2462
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 1: Madden as we talked about, um and let me see

2463
02:05:31,480 --> 02:05:35,800
Speaker 1: probably see, Because here's the thing. When you're thinking about indispensable,

2464
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:38,560
Speaker 1: you're not only thinking about who that guy is as

2465
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 1: as a performer on the field for his respective teams.

2466
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, You're also thinking what's left if he's not there? Yeah,

2467
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: I'm going Lashawn McCoy. Oh, that's a good one. I see.

2468
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:51,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even though about it as a bill from

2469
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:54,720
Speaker 1: a bill's perspective, I'll go Antonio Brown and Lashawan McCoy.

2470
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 1: I would say that as well. Those are two that

2471
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 1: are more into two guys. Would be Now, I'm gonna

2472
02:05:58,440 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: change one of mine because Tiles Sean McCoy. The other

2473
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 1: one is Leonard Fournette, because you know, Blake Bortles is

2474
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 1: the best a placeholder. I think Leonard Fournette down in

2475
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,680
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is and I've seen the guy play. He's unbelievable.

2476
02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:13,080
Speaker 1: In fact, if you gave me Ezekiel Elliott and Leonard Fournette,

2477
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:15,720
Speaker 1: I take Leonard Fournette and here's and here's the thing too,

2478
02:06:15,960 --> 02:06:18,400
Speaker 1: that's different this year in comparison to last year for

2479
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 1: the Jacks because there were a couple of weeks where

2480
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,120
Speaker 1: Fournette was out of the lineup with that ankle problem,

2481
02:06:23,480 --> 02:06:25,360
Speaker 1: or he wasn't nearly the player that he was because

2482
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:27,600
Speaker 1: he was playing hurt down the stretch. They had Chris

2483
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 1: Ivory last year, who is a similar type power back,

2484
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:37,320
Speaker 1: and he's not there now. So you know, yes, they

2485
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 1: have the other kid that came out of Alabama whose

2486
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: names escaping me right now down there, who who runs

2487
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:46,360
Speaker 1: for them yelled in yeah, t J yel So they

2488
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 1: have yelled in which you know, he's never not a

2489
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 1: huge drop off, but not the same. But guy, I

2490
02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 1: would say Ivory is more like Fournette. You know, than

2491
02:06:56,720 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: yelled at is and Ivory is not there anymore. He's

2492
02:07:00,360 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo style. You're right, But now Leonard Fournette

2493
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:05,560
Speaker 1: is a man among boys. So we both go false.

2494
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,200
Speaker 1: For outside of the quarterbacks, the sekel is the most

2495
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: indspensable offensive player in the National Football League Number two

2496
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: NFL true false Seahawks are poised for the NFL's biggest

2497
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:19,000
Speaker 1: fall from grace and for me and I guess I'll

2498
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: go first on this one. Now, I think that's false.

2499
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:23,560
Speaker 1: There's no question that there are going to be a

2500
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:26,040
Speaker 1: different football team. The legion of boom is gone. They're

2501
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 1: not gonna win games the way they did once by

2502
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 1: dominating defense, almost suffocating defense. In fact, in their Super

2503
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:36,320
Speaker 1: Bowl win against the Denver Broncos. In my opinion, it

2504
02:07:36,440 --> 02:07:39,240
Speaker 1: is the greatest defensive performance in a Super Bowl of

2505
02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:43,680
Speaker 1: all time, better than Bears eighty five, absolutely much better

2506
02:07:44,240 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 1: than the Bears of eighty five defensive performance in him

2507
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Because of this, the Bears in eighty five won that

2508
02:07:49,800 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: game thirty five to ten against the thirty six to

2509
02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:56,960
Speaker 1: ten forty six forty six to ten against the New

2510
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 1: England Patriots, who at that time had the sixteenth ranked

2511
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: offense in the National Football League in the nineteen In

2512
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, the legion of boom in Seattle in

2513
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:15,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl forties something something that's against They played against

2514
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos, who were the greatest

2515
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:23,280
Speaker 1: offense in all history, and they crushed them. It was

2516
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:27,880
Speaker 1: not even a contest. The Seattle Seahawks beat to a

2517
02:08:28,040 --> 02:08:31,600
Speaker 1: pulp the most the statistically best offense in the history

2518
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 1: of the NFL. They were record breaking that year and

2519
02:08:34,160 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 1: they had no shot in that Super Bowl. That's why

2520
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:39,440
Speaker 1: I think that the Seattle Seahawks have the best We

2521
02:08:39,560 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 1: got an off topic here, That's why I think they

2522
02:08:42,120 --> 02:08:43,840
Speaker 1: were the best defensive performance of all time in the

2523
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They're gonna experience the true false question was

2524
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:48,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna experience the biggest fall from grace. I don't

2525
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 1: think they're gonna fall that far seven last year. They're

2526
02:08:52,000 --> 02:08:54,440
Speaker 1: gonna win games. How much further are they falling? You

2527
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:57,839
Speaker 1: know what I mean? They're They're gonna win games differently,

2528
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: no question. They're gonna be a different football team. They're

2529
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 1: not gonna win it with defense, but they're gonna win.

2530
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson gives him a chance. They're the rest of

2531
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,720
Speaker 1: their players on their on their offense and their defense.

2532
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:10,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna play all right. Pete Carroll's got a program there.

2533
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:12,560
Speaker 1: They are gonna look different. They're not gonna have a

2534
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:15,160
Speaker 1: suffocating defense. But they're not gonna fall all that far.

2535
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. I gotta say, falls too,

2536
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 1: because would you be surprised if the Seahawks make the playoffs?

2537
02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 1: Not at all. I wouldn't either, So how can you

2538
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,480
Speaker 1: call it a fall from grace if they can still

2539
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: be a playoff They got a playmaking, consistent quarterback. You

2540
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 1: got Rashad Penny. They're running back I talked about. I

2541
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,800
Speaker 1: like him a lot. I like him a lot. I

2542
02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:37,960
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be productive for them. Now they're they're

2543
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:42,240
Speaker 1: in and they're in a division with the Rams who

2544
02:09:42,440 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 1: jumped out of the blocks last year. They're and with

2545
02:09:45,920 --> 02:09:48,000
Speaker 1: an Arizona team that's in this You gotta say that

2546
02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 1: Arizona teams got a huge question mark because of their quarterback.

2547
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: And of course then you've got the forty nine with

2548
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, who you know, they've still got some pieces

2549
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 1: to put in. Despite the finish, they had last year.

2550
02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,440
Speaker 1: It's like we said that they're gonna catch up with Garoppolo.

2551
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to do, all right, Yeah, what I'm

2552
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:07,400
Speaker 1: trying to do is find another team who is more

2553
02:10:07,560 --> 02:10:12,040
Speaker 1: likely to fall from grace this year based on what

2554
02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:15,480
Speaker 1: they did last year. I mean, I don't know. I'm

2555
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 1: having a hard time. Like there's no easy pick here.

2556
02:10:20,240 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 1: You could say Tennessee. You could say, um, yeah, but Tennessee, right,

2557
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 1: Only teams that are poised like you're you gotta pick

2558
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:29,720
Speaker 1: a team like Minnesota who was stratospheric last year. You

2559
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: gotta pick a team like well, even like the Jaguars

2560
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 1: who got to the playoffs and won that division. You know,

2561
02:10:35,800 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 1: they could they could take a step backwards if things

2562
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:40,400
Speaker 1: don't fall their where, if their defense gets some injuries

2563
02:10:40,440 --> 02:10:43,480
Speaker 1: or something like that. But you know, I Atlanta maybe

2564
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:45,720
Speaker 1: could fall down, but I don't think they will. I mean,

2565
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: they were, but they were only ten and six. I mean, yeah,

2566
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 1: the Seahawks lost some star defensive players, but man oh man,

2567
02:10:52,080 --> 02:10:54,080
Speaker 1: they're still a pretty good football team. So I think

2568
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:57,040
Speaker 1: we're both stay false. Yeah, no, I'm I'm definitely staying false.

2569
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 1: The challenge I'm trying to come the answer I'm trying

2570
02:10:59,920 --> 02:11:01,400
Speaker 1: to come up with here as who else. If it's

2571
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:04,040
Speaker 1: not the Seahawks, then who who would you put in

2572
02:11:04,120 --> 02:11:06,320
Speaker 1: that spot? I don't think the Steelers are going anywhere.

2573
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 1: They won the AFC North. Uh, I mean you want

2574
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:11,080
Speaker 1: to maybe you want to say the Chiefs because they

2575
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:13,640
Speaker 1: have a rookie quarterback, but even they were only ten

2576
02:11:13,680 --> 02:11:16,360
Speaker 1: and six and won the West last year. Yeah, maybe

2577
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 1: I would say Man and they got an awful lot

2578
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 1: of talent on offense. Green you know, say Jacksonville like Bordals,

2579
02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:25,440
Speaker 1: doesn't do as well Jacksonville because that they look to

2580
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:28,000
Speaker 1: be that the team that has struggled to score points,

2581
02:11:28,040 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: although in the division round they said that they happened

2582
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:34,720
Speaker 1: the forty eight points on the Steelers. Um, yeah, it's

2583
02:11:34,760 --> 02:11:38,080
Speaker 1: hard to There aren't no those teams that seem poised

2584
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:40,880
Speaker 1: to drop. Now. Certainly, if the Seaharks go eight and

2585
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,320
Speaker 1: eight and they take a step backwards one game, that's

2586
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,000
Speaker 1: still not a drop. Yeah. You know, there's maybe Baltimore

2587
02:11:46,040 --> 02:11:48,240
Speaker 1: at nine and seven. Maybe they really struggle this year.

2588
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 1: They turned the page from Flacco halfway through, they give

2589
02:11:51,640 --> 02:11:54,800
Speaker 1: up the ship and turn to Yeah, but you can't

2590
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:58,880
Speaker 1: that that Jackson's maybe, Um, yeah, I mean I I

2591
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 1: see that the you can see where the questions coming

2592
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 1: from the Seahawks are. I just don't think there's an

2593
02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 1: easy answer here of a team that's just gonna precipitously

2594
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:09,120
Speaker 1: maybe drop off the face of the earth. Maybe that's

2595
02:12:09,160 --> 02:12:11,120
Speaker 1: why they picked the Seahawks to say that about, because

2596
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 1: nobody else seems to be, you know, poised like they are.

2597
02:12:13,800 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 1: But I still say it's false. I do too, all

2598
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:20,120
Speaker 1: right now number three NFL True and false. James Harrison

2599
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:24,120
Speaker 1: tops the craziest offseason workouts. And I don't know if

2600
02:12:24,120 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 1: you've kept up with this, and there's stuff going on

2601
02:12:26,120 --> 02:12:27,600
Speaker 1: all the time where these guys are now it's a

2602
02:12:27,640 --> 02:12:30,080
Speaker 1: byre instagramming their work Yeah, they put stuff out on

2603
02:12:30,120 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: their workouts. You got guys doing doing they do it

2604
02:12:32,840 --> 02:12:35,040
Speaker 1: in college. Oh my gosh. You know they got the

2605
02:12:35,080 --> 02:12:38,959
Speaker 1: guys in there doing spring workouts and deadlifting crazy workouts

2606
02:12:39,160 --> 02:12:43,280
Speaker 1: seven hundred pounds and yeah, squatting three ninety five. He's

2607
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 1: thirty nine years old. He's powerlifting doing some stuff. He's

2608
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:51,240
Speaker 1: he upped his powerlifting game a cup few years ago.

2609
02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:53,200
Speaker 1: This stuff he's doing with six hundred and seventy five

2610
02:12:53,200 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 1: pounds putting it across his No, listen, he's putting it

2611
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:59,280
Speaker 1: across his stomach and then like doing planks with it

2612
02:12:59,440 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 1: or reverse Oh my gosh, doing lunges with just unbelievable weight. Yeah,

2613
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not in the business of this. I'm

2614
02:13:09,360 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 1: big on lifting my own body weight, like I'll do

2615
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 1: the only time I lift my own body weights when

2616
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:18,240
Speaker 1: I stand up. No, but like I'd rather do push

2617
02:13:18,320 --> 02:13:21,920
Speaker 1: ups and pull ups, you know, those kinds of things

2618
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 1: instead of doing this stupid weight because whenever I try

2619
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 1: to do any of this Olympic lifting, and certainly I'm

2620
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 1: not doing anything that James Harrison is doing for our

2621
02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:33,440
Speaker 1: MSG viewers. Oh my god, a medicine ball just snapped

2622
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:37,600
Speaker 1: out of chame medicine ball standing on him. That's like, yeah,

2623
02:13:37,680 --> 02:13:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not in the business of doing that.

2624
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:43,920
Speaker 1: I never have, I know. Like I'm gonna say it's

2625
02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:47,280
Speaker 1: true though, anything from a push jerk to you know,

2626
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:49,840
Speaker 1: a hanging clean, I'm not doing any of that. Guy's

2627
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of crazy. It starts with TiO running

2628
02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:54,160
Speaker 1: a four five forty at forty four years old. I

2629
02:13:54,200 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 1: think you ran four to four four, okay, four four four.

2630
02:13:57,280 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: You've got these guys at Saquon Barkley's got a couple

2631
02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,320
Speaker 1: of videos out there where he leans down, lifts three

2632
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,520
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds off the floor straight up, drops

2633
02:14:05,520 --> 02:14:07,520
Speaker 1: it back down before he moves his feet. He does

2634
02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:11,280
Speaker 1: a forty forty eight inch or forty four inch vertical

2635
02:14:11,400 --> 02:14:14,520
Speaker 1: box jump box jump, right, So I've seen J. J.

2636
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:17,520
Speaker 1: Watt do like a fifty five inch box jump. Now.

2637
02:14:17,640 --> 02:14:19,640
Speaker 1: Fortunately for him, he's smart enough to go to the

2638
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:24,880
Speaker 1: soft padded boxes right because the lasting gona happen. I'm

2639
02:14:24,920 --> 02:14:28,600
Speaker 1: just gonna tell you, I've witnessed people bite the box,

2640
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 1: as they say, where you don't get your feet up

2641
02:14:31,040 --> 02:14:34,680
Speaker 1: on the top biting the box. It's supposed to looking leaves,

2642
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 1: scars on people's shins, scars, do not bite the box. Yeah,

2643
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:44,880
Speaker 1: and you've also seen guys do all, you know, all

2644
02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:51,280
Speaker 1: this crazy workout stuff where even as Harrison James Harrison,

2645
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:53,000
Speaker 1: he also has a thing where he's got a rubber

2646
02:14:53,040 --> 02:14:55,480
Speaker 1: band around his back, so like he's laying on a

2647
02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:59,839
Speaker 1: bench pressing and it's got one hundred and fifty pound dumbbell.

2648
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:02,640
Speaker 1: I saw that he's a benching three hundred pounds with

2649
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:07,200
Speaker 1: resistance around his back, and I'm like how he was playing, Um,

2650
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm that's so far out of the realm of possibility.

2651
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:12,200
Speaker 1: I couldn't even dream of even trying to do it.

2652
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:18,280
Speaker 1: I saw another video with Harrison doing this volleyball game

2653
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:21,480
Speaker 1: where he's throwing a medicine ball over to the other

2654
02:15:21,600 --> 02:15:23,640
Speaker 1: side and the other guy's got to catch it and

2655
02:15:23,840 --> 02:15:26,520
Speaker 1: throw it back, like that's the game they're playing. So

2656
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 1: he's heaving this um you know, like an old school scotsman.

2657
02:15:32,120 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 1: You know some of those what do they call those, um,

2658
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,960
Speaker 1: the Highland games games, So you know how they you

2659
02:15:38,040 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 1: know how they get those long telephone polls and they

2660
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 1: like have to throw them up in the air and

2661
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:45,160
Speaker 1: flip him so with lands on the opposite end, some

2662
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 1: of these guys will throw these like kegs over their

2663
02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:51,360
Speaker 1: shoulder and over a wall behind them. So he's taken

2664
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:53,960
Speaker 1: that approach with volleyball. He's got his back to the net,

2665
02:15:54,280 --> 02:15:57,360
Speaker 1: he's got like one hundred pound medicine ball heaving over

2666
02:15:57,480 --> 02:15:59,240
Speaker 1: his shoulder to the other side. The other guy's got

2667
02:15:59,320 --> 02:16:02,080
Speaker 1: to run like a centerfield or catch the thing, turn

2668
02:16:02,160 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 1: around and flip it back to him. The same way.

2669
02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:07,720
Speaker 1: These guys are nuts, Like you gotta dude, sit down

2670
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:09,720
Speaker 1: and you know, have an iced tea in the sun

2671
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 1: on your back porch. Like what that's a that's a

2672
02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,600
Speaker 1: trip to the emergency room for me. Oh my back

2673
02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 1: would be like yeah, I don't think so, buddy, that

2674
02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:22,360
Speaker 1: would be yeah, that I'd be in traction. Oh man,

2675
02:16:22,480 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 1: I can and I'm in okay shape. And you know what,

2676
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:28,840
Speaker 1: you know, I get it. I'm James Harrison's thirty nine

2677
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:31,600
Speaker 1: or thirty eight years old. It's not like he was

2678
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:35,080
Speaker 1: like these twenty two year old Barkley I'll fresh legged

2679
02:16:35,200 --> 02:16:37,560
Speaker 1: coming out of there. But yeah, like you're playing in

2680
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:39,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, you kind of have to do some of

2681
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:40,560
Speaker 1: that stuff. So we both say, I think he's I

2682
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:43,320
Speaker 1: think I gotta say yes James Harrison just really because

2683
02:16:43,760 --> 02:16:46,240
Speaker 1: you saw all the things I say, because it's prolific.

2684
02:16:46,320 --> 02:16:48,360
Speaker 1: He's got like fifty of these videos come out of

2685
02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:50,760
Speaker 1: him doing this stuff. I'm just gonna say one. I'm

2686
02:16:50,760 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 1: just gonna say true because anybody who's still motivated to

2687
02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:55,960
Speaker 1: that degree to do that kind of lifting after a

2688
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:59,360
Speaker 1: fifteen year NFL career, I'll tip my hat to you.

2689
02:16:59,560 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, say true. All right, that's NFL true false,

2690
02:17:02,320 --> 02:17:04,560
Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and

2691
02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:06,680
Speaker 1: chief Steve Tasker, along with Chris Browns. We've been talking

2692
02:17:06,680 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 1: about all stuff all around the league. We kind of

2693
02:17:10,200 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 1: with because of our guest Bucky Brooks and Eric Winston,

2694
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:15,680
Speaker 1: we kind of strayed away from our our Twitter question,

2695
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:19,680
Speaker 1: which was which AFC quarterback has the most pressure going

2696
02:17:19,720 --> 02:17:22,160
Speaker 1: into training camp? And that goes all the way down

2697
02:17:22,200 --> 02:17:24,920
Speaker 1: the depth chart of all ford in a AFC East teams.

2698
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:27,000
Speaker 1: You see the UH and the people on MSG. You

2699
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,520
Speaker 1: can see the Buffalo Bills have a j mccaron, Nathan Peterman,

2700
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:33,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. The Dolphins have got Tannehill, brock Oswiler, Bryce

2701
02:17:33,240 --> 02:17:37,160
Speaker 1: Petty and David Fayles Fails actually played last year. The

2702
02:17:37,280 --> 02:17:40,600
Speaker 1: Jets have got Josh McCown, Teddy Bridgewater and Darnold of course,

2703
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:45,360
Speaker 1: and the Patriots Tom Brady, Brian Horrier and Danny Etling.

2704
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Danny Etling has zero pressure on him

2705
02:17:48,560 --> 02:17:50,800
Speaker 1: this training I would go with zero. Yeah, right, let's

2706
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:58,840
Speaker 1: who's got the least pressure, probably the least um. Of course, there's,

2707
02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:00,640
Speaker 1: of course there's a chance he doesn't even make the

2708
02:18:00,760 --> 02:18:04,560
Speaker 1: roster and he's on the practice squad because even guys

2709
02:18:04,600 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 1: like Bryce Petty and David Fails, those two guys are

2710
02:18:07,200 --> 02:18:11,520
Speaker 1: fighting to be the third quarterback. So there's some want

2711
02:18:11,560 --> 02:18:14,760
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback. But you know, as we said earlier,

2712
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:18,320
Speaker 1: there's different kinds of pressure on this list because you know,

2713
02:18:19,120 --> 02:18:21,360
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is trying to prove he can still be

2714
02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:24,039
Speaker 1: a productive guy that can stay healthy and his mobility

2715
02:18:24,120 --> 02:18:27,879
Speaker 1: hasn't been too compromised by that near catastrophic knee injury.

2716
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:31,160
Speaker 1: Brock Oswilders still trying to stay in the league. Ryan

2717
02:18:31,240 --> 02:18:33,400
Speaker 1: Tannehill's trying to prove he can still be a starter.

2718
02:18:33,800 --> 02:18:35,840
Speaker 1: AJ McCarron is trying to prove he can be a

2719
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:38,800
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in the league. And Brady's trying to prove

2720
02:18:38,879 --> 02:18:40,840
Speaker 1: that you can still play at an elite level at

2721
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:43,880
Speaker 1: age forty one. Well, we're bringing it down the home stretch.

2722
02:18:43,920 --> 02:18:45,920
Speaker 1: We got one more segment before we get to the

2723
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:47,680
Speaker 1: top of the hour. We're gonna come back and say

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Speaker 1: and realize what have we learned? Right after this one,

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, I'm ready from Buffalo Bill. We learn today?

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Speaker 1: Did we learn anything? I don't think what have we

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Speaker 1: learned presented by Advance Alarm providing Western New York's homes

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Speaker 1: and businesses with the finest and security and home theater

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Speaker 1: and the preferred alarm and home theater provider of the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We were on with Eric Winston, the president

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Speaker 1: of the National Football League Players Association, and he talked

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Speaker 1: about what was coming up on the horizon for the

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement. Here's what he said. Most of our

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Speaker 1: conversations pretty much all of the conversations I've been internal.

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Speaker 1: You know. First of all, we've got to understand what

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Speaker 1: the players want, and I think that's important. We got

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Speaker 1: to make sure that those players are hurt, and that

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Speaker 1: we've got to these teams and that we're asking these

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Speaker 1: guys exactly, Hey, what do you see? This is what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing. How does your year specific situation fall into this?

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Speaker 1: And we're going to try to work this thing out

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it's sooner than later, and that'd be great

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Speaker 1: for everybody. But at the the day, that's got to

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Speaker 1: be the right deal. And I can't I can't put

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Speaker 1: a timeline on something like that. I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: if something is or isn't going to happen because, as

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes are that stuff has taken out of

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Speaker 1: our hands. That was Eric Winston, current NFL Players Association President.

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Speaker 1: We also had Bucky Brooks on NFL Network Analyst. He

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Speaker 1: had to talk about the young quarterbacks in the league

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Speaker 1: and the big draft class that it was. He also

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Speaker 1: talked about Buffalo's seventh overall picked, Josh Allen, and some

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Speaker 1: of the things that we're said about his completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Bucky had to say, Josh Allen has never

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Speaker 1: been a sixty percent completion for same pass or not

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Speaker 1: in high school, not in junior college, not in college. Man.

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Speaker 1: You can try and build the layups into the passing game,

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Speaker 1: but that's not really his game. And even in saying that,

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Speaker 1: I've said that when you look at Josh Allen, I

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Speaker 1: think you need to look at Cam Newton and Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton's progression. Cam Newton has never really done a sixty

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Speaker 1: percent pastor. However, he has been able to be very,

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Speaker 1: very productive because the offense said meaning that the calne

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Speaker 1: of paths have had a down here running attack. You

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Speaker 1: have a vertical passing game, and when you push the

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Speaker 1: ball farther them to feel you're a completion presentedge is

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Speaker 1: going to come down, but you're hoping that the explosive

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Speaker 1: plays off set debt. I believe when you look at

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Speaker 1: John Dallen and you have the familiarity between the general

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Speaker 1: manager and the head coach and a Cam Newton tag,

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Speaker 1: I believe that there's some centergy in terms of how

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Speaker 1: they look at Josh Allen, how they look at Cam Newton,

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Speaker 1: and how they plan to build this out. And it's

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Speaker 1: around this town. That was what we learned presented by

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Speaker 1: Advanced Alarms. And we've been on the show to today.

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Speaker 1: I've been hosting with Brown, Chris Brown and the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills dot Com and we haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 1: take too many calls. We had a que going on.

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Speaker 1: I want to take one call before we call it today.

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Speaker 1: This is Tom and Lancaster. Tom, you're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being so patient with me, Tom, What is

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Speaker 1: on your mind? I was just wondering, there's still, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, eight ten first round draft choices that

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Speaker 1: haven't signed. Gay if if there's a salary scale and

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Speaker 1: everybody's sliding it's been three months, is there something afoot

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Speaker 1: to mess with the CBA or something. What's what's the deal.

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Speaker 1: That's a good question. I think it's starting to get

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Speaker 1: time too. Thanks for the call, Tom, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It's starting to get time to start thinking about that.

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Speaker 1: Ten guys left though, and it used to be that

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Speaker 1: when it was all freewheeling, there were nothing said. It

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Speaker 1: was like, you'll wait your turn. I think there's still

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Speaker 1: a little bit of that that goes on. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: would agree with that. Yeah, I'm not I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's too much time before this new CBA

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Speaker 1: coming up where I think people are gonna get all

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Speaker 1: been out of shape now, you know, like Eric Winston

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Speaker 1: said when we talked to him, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of internal conversations, but there have been no conversations with

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Speaker 1: the league yet. So really, what this run up time

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Speaker 1: is going to be about is game planning. The NFLPA

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Speaker 1: is going to have their game plan, The league's gonna

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Speaker 1: have their game plan. With ownership, they probably have their

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Speaker 1: own committee, right, you know, among NFL ownership. What about

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Speaker 1: what about getting Josh Allen signed for the Buffalo Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I'm not terribly worried about it.

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Speaker 1: I really am not. Um I think we've got a

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Speaker 1: situation here where it's going to get done. Guys are

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Speaker 1: gonna get slotted. Josh Rosen already signed while back back

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Speaker 1: in May, i want to say, or early June, and

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Speaker 1: he got picked after Alan. He was the next quarterback

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Speaker 1: off the board after Alan. I think the contract parameters

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Speaker 1: are largely set, so I just think it's a matter

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Speaker 1: of ironing out some of that minor language you know

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Speaker 1: that exists with incentives and such. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us. Tomorrow we've got NASCAR driver Clint

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Speaker 1: Boyer coming on the show, Lorenzo Alexander's gonna join us,

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Speaker 1: and also Chris Brown. You're off the hook. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to come in tomorrow. You know he's got enough

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Speaker 1: work to do. That's right. He's gonna co host Timithy

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow is Andrew Peters of the Instigators. He's hagging around

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Speaker 1: for an extra few hours. We're gonna have the football

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Speaker 1: and hockey cocktail going. George Bloss, Jeff Colteneck, Thomas Hollander,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, JJ Urito, and of course Jay Harris. Thanks

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Speaker 1: everybody for joining us. Today is One Bills Live from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. H