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Speaker 2: You listen to me every day, I hope on the

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Speaker 2: Tape podcast with Paul Sweeney. I've got a new podcast though,

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Speaker 2: that I'm running alongside the Tape with my friend Hannah Elliott.

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Speaker 1: She's the car reviewer from Bloomberg Pursuits.

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Speaker 2: We call it Hot Pursuit, and we tell you everything

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Speaker 2: a little sample from the Hot Pursuit podcast here.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Hannah Elliott and this is Hot Pursuit.

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Speaker 1: Welcome the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Coming up today, We've got a lot about Formula one

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Speaker 2: if you care about the racing as well as the event.

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Speaker 1: Plus we're gonna talk about four.

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Speaker 2: There's a really cool Bronco thing that Hannah heard about,

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Speaker 2: and they're scaling back a little bit on their electric

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Speaker 2: vehicle production, so maybe that's an issue that touches the

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Speaker 2: strike and politics. Finally, Hannah actually drove the XM. She's

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Speaker 2: written down her thoughts and she'll tell them to me.

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Speaker 2: I have a much cheaper, but I think better alternative

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Speaker 2: All right, So Hannah, let's start with Formula one. It's

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Speaker 2: not just about the racing, it's about the circus. And

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to know what it's gonna be like when

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Speaker 2: So in terms of like exciting, is Formula One do

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Speaker 2: But they're using this as an excuse, like when retailer

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Speaker 2: It, yeah, because you know, you can just drive around

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the XM.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I agree with all those points. I

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Speaker 1: I like it so big because I'm so big, you know.

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Speaker 3: You want to read it, read it online or read

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Speaker 1: Just waiting for someone to call me to be a witness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's probably enough for the podcast, right,

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm doing tonight. I'm gonna go see

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Speaker 2: I have seen GNR three times, okay, like once a decade,

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Speaker 2: Okay, actual, like on a good he'll impress you, but

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Speaker 3: I will give you a full report.

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Speaker 1: That does it for the podcast this week.

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