WEBVTT - A Hunka Hunka Burnin’ Loathing: Kevin Curtis

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth Duntz Zeron Burnette So glad to see.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad to see me too.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Look, I got a question for you while you're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you what's ridiculous I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? Hold on, this is my take a while. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we've been inundated with suggestions for a certain spirit, a

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<v Speaker 3>certain liquor. Dorito's is all about disrupting culture and bringing

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<v Speaker 3>our fans unexpected, bold experiences. Okay, So Dorito's has a

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<v Speaker 3>liquor and I don't really know. It's just like a

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<v Speaker 3>distilled whatever. It's apparently vacuum distilled, so it really tastes

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<v Speaker 3>like a Dorito. Oh yeah. The flavor is nacho cheese,

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<v Speaker 3>corn toastata umami in a hint of acidity, and you

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<v Speaker 3>can use it for Margarita's, Bloody Mary's old fashions, neat

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<v Speaker 3>or over ice or anyway Dorito's fans like, says the

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<v Speaker 3>press release. Yeah, okay, so whatever, right, I got that

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<v Speaker 3>out of the way. I mean, it's like, literally hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of people have been telling us about this, but then

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<v Speaker 3>you know who swooped in, Marie Noel she's a new

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<v Speaker 3>friend of the show. Now. She sent us a great email.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, before I get into all the ridiculous stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to let you know how much I enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>your podcast. It never fails to make me laugh. I

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<v Speaker 3>used to listen to it when I went out for

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<v Speaker 3>a run. But one day I laughed so hard that

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<v Speaker 3>it made me cough and I couldn't catch my breath.

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<v Speaker 3>A nice lady even stopped by to make sure I

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<v Speaker 3>was okay and wasn't about to die. So I did

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<v Speaker 3>the only thing I could do. I stopped running all together.

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<v Speaker 3>Now your podcast makes me giggle during my commute to

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<v Speaker 3>and from work. We've made someone stop running. We did it.

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<v Speaker 2>We did it, Joe.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So here's the thing though. She also included that

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, you know what, I'm sure everyone's sending you

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<v Speaker 3>the Doritos thing, but let me let me take you

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<v Speaker 3>to the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>There's another level. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So she sent a link to this Tamworth Distilling company

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a line of booze called House of Tamworth.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there are five. There's smoked trout flavored brandy, right

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<v Speaker 3>Crab trapper, Oh Crab flavored whiskey, o de musk, which

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<v Speaker 3>is I don't know, some sort of like muskrat whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>deerslayer venison flavored whiskey. Then we get to my favorite,

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<v Speaker 3>a favorite unholy rye and the tagline is I drink

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<v Speaker 3>dead people. It's called grave Robber, Grave Robber, unholy rye.

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<v Speaker 3>Grave Robber is an unholy rye whiskey infused with maple

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<v Speaker 3>syrup tapped from graveside maple trees. On the property of

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<v Speaker 3>Tamworth Distilling lies a malignant old maple whose roots burrowed

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<v Speaker 3>deep into the nearly unmarked colonial era graveyard. What would

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<v Speaker 3>happen if we tapped some of the sinister stap sap

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<v Speaker 3>and added it to our whiskey? Spicy yet sweet, evil

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<v Speaker 3>yet divine. The life of a grave robber begins when

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<v Speaker 3>yours ends.

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<v Speaker 2>They broke the Jeff Goldbloom maxim, they said, Rather than asking,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, should we, they just went ahead and did it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the most god thing to like have, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the I don't know, I can't even get my head

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<v Speaker 3>around was that.

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<v Speaker 2>Considered like goth like whiskey? I mean, like, is that

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<v Speaker 2>like I think you want that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know that it's syrup tapped from the graveside in

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<v Speaker 3>maple trees.

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<v Speaker 2>God, I'm just wooy enough to be like.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, meet me at the cemetery case.

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<v Speaker 2>Luckily I had been prepared for this, I thought by

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<v Speaker 2>listener Eric Buckholt, who sent me ward, will you be

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<v Speaker 2>throwing these doritos at me? And then you still got

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<v Speaker 2>and brought the un whiskey.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric told you, he warned you. I'm not on Twitter anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>but I used to see him on there all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>But see Marie Noel, she brought it. Elizabeth, she's my

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<v Speaker 3>number one roode Dude. Yah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what do you have?

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<v Speaker 3>It's ridiculous, This is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry that took so long. Pale, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I had, Oh my god, how am I going to

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<v Speaker 2>adjust to that? Okay? Well, do you have a second?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I got one.

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<v Speaker 3>What else am I going to do today?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? You remember when Obama was president? I do?

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know I went to his first inauguration?

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<v Speaker 2>You did? But how was it was a good?

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<v Speaker 3>You're amazing?

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<v Speaker 2>It was really great. How many stars?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say eight out of five?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, big, big, momentous occasion. Okay, so do you I saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Tyne Daily in real life.

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<v Speaker 2>Not the Time Daily, tim Daily's sister Cagney and Lacy

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<v Speaker 2>Tyn Daily from.

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<v Speaker 3>About half a block away.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's pretty crazy. That's what you came away with

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<v Speaker 2>Time Daily also Obama's president. That's do you remember the

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<v Speaker 2>news during the Obama presidency when a taekwondo fighting martial

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<v Speaker 2>arts instructor and part time Elvis impersonator attempted to kill

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<v Speaker 2>the isn't it with rice and powder? Wait?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I miss that. I miss that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in luck. Have I got a story for you today?

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<v Speaker 4>Hell? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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<v Speaker 2>and cons. It's all always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 2>and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yes, Elizabeth, I have three

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<v Speaker 2>questions for you today.

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<v Speaker 5>One?

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<v Speaker 3>Two? Three?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like Mississippi? Sure? You ever been to Tupelo, Mississippi?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you you have? You? Did you like it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I was all right, memorable? Sure did you go there

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<v Speaker 2>to see Elvis's birthplace? No? Do you like Elvis? That's

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<v Speaker 2>my third question? Okay, I got a bonus question. You

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard of the song the Tupelo, Mississippi Flash. No,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, it kind of goes like this, he said, son,

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<v Speaker 2>my name is Boba god Ripley. I come to you

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<v Speaker 2>from Tupelo, Mississippi. I write songs and sing like a bird,

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<v Speaker 2>and I play licks on me guitar like you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>never heard now. That is a Jerry Reid song. Oh okay,

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<v Speaker 2>aka the Snowman from Smoking the Band or water Boy

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<v Speaker 2>the coach for the rival team and water Boy. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>his track is a teasing nod to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis is from Tupelo, the true below Mississippi Flash. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a kick for Jerry Reid when Elvis actually performed

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<v Speaker 2>a cover of that very same song, because Elvis was

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<v Speaker 2>one of Jerry Reid's heroes growing up, much like Jerry

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<v Speaker 2>Reid was one of my heroes growing up. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>just like you were one of my heroes growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly now. Elvis, he's the mountaintop, right, He was

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<v Speaker 2>the goat to mindy a Southerner like, did you know

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<v Speaker 2>even my father loves Elvis.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you've mentioned that my.

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<v Speaker 2>Black nationalist father loves Elvis, which is great. He even

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<v Speaker 2>named his dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Elm Oh he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's out there king. I'm like, oh, Dad, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>So tupla, Mississippi birthplace of Elvis. It's steeped in Elvis lore,

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<v Speaker 2>and much like the rest of the South, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>it's a place where you're gonna find a fair share

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<v Speaker 2>of nuts. Sure, who's my man, Jerry Read would say,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, watch him, everybody, that boy squirreling. Now, all

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<v Speaker 2>of this will prime us for the story I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you the cat that I want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you about today. This squirrelly dude was an Elvis superfan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, and like Elvis, he was from Tupelo, Mississippi.

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<v Speaker 3>I've known some serious Elvis superfans totally.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was a fellow Tupelo, Mississippi martial arts master.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's how far he took it. And one day

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<v Speaker 2>he was accused of trying to kill the president. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much more to this story than that. So so so.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty thirteen, the first news articles announced the FBI

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<v Speaker 2>was investigating this rice in incident. Right the Guardian Over

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK, they reported on April eighteenth, twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>quote a man accused of mailing letters was suspected rising

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<v Speaker 2>to President Barack Obama and other officials believed he'd uncovered

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<v Speaker 2>a conspiracy to sell human body parts on the black

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<v Speaker 2>market and claimed, quote various parties within the government quote

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to ruin his reputation. So Paul Kevin Curtis,

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<v Speaker 2>that's our CATA forty five years old at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Pksey case, he's the man in question. Beats my friend

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<v Speaker 2>sim So he's accused of threatening Barack Obama with the

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<v Speaker 2>powdery toxin sent through the mail. Right, Okay, Now, on

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<v Speaker 2>the face of it, this story seems outrageous, but yet

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of makes sense. Yeah, no, right for real,

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<v Speaker 2>paranoid man from Mississippi, convinced there's a secret cabal of

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<v Speaker 2>body part brokers working on the black market, protected by

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<v Speaker 2>elected officials, decides I'm going to kill the president, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what. That is ridiculous, But the story it feels

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<v Speaker 2>kind of familiar, like I believe, like well, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>for our days these days, like people I'm gonna blow

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<v Speaker 2>up my RV because of the president or whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>but you throw in the Elvis impersonator part, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a real story. Now it's international, So that's when it sideways. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this cat? Paul Kevin Curtis seven? Now for one,

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<v Speaker 2>he prefers to be called Kevin, so we'll call him

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Curtis, not Paul Curtis now at best as I could,

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<v Speaker 2>gleant Casey. Oh, Casey's early life was strange. Now this

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<v Speaker 2>is primarily due to his Elvis loving mama at a

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<v Speaker 2>very early age. Kevin, he was a childhood prodigy Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>as an Elvis impersonator, a child prodigy Elvis will allow Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever heard of the Mexican Elvis Elves. Yes, he's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite of the Elvis impersonators. But then there's also

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<v Speaker 2>I think one you like, dread Zeppelin, the Led Zeppelin

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<v Speaker 2>cover band, Elvis impersonator as the front man who would

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<v Speaker 2>perform Zeppelin songs and Elvis krooner voice that Wastelvis. Yes, Tartelvis,

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<v Speaker 2>thank your producer, Dave Tartelvis could not think of that

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<v Speaker 2>cat's name. All right. He had another one for you.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever seen the two thousand and one movie three

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<v Speaker 2>Thousand Miles to Gray Slam? I sure have, yeah, Kevin Cage,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Kevin cost and Kurt Russell, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it with Nicholas Cage.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not where he dresses up as Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he does dress up as Elvis in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>In a movie. Yeah, I'm blanking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just say it's three thousand miles to.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's one hundred miles to Graceland. Three thousand still

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three hundred page version. It was an indie film,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred miles. We were close. I live closer to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in perump So, Kevin Costner, Kurt Russell, they

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<v Speaker 2>play Elvis impersonators in three thousand miles to Graceland. So,

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<v Speaker 2>with the help of an army of other Elvis impersonators,

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<v Speaker 2>they pull off an epic heist in Las Vegas, all

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<v Speaker 2>dressed as Vegas era Elvis. I think I have seen that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know to kill the parachuting, Yes, yes, parashooting, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that would get to you Las Vegas. Baby. Well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>this kid, Kevin Curtis, all right, my dude raised in Tupelo,

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis impersonating child prodigy. All right. Now, when I say

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<v Speaker 2>he was steeped in Elvis, his mama was like dunking

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<v Speaker 2>him in the legacy of Elvis. Right, he imagine him

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<v Speaker 2>as a donut and Elvis is the hot coffee that

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<v Speaker 2>mama do. Just dunk, dunk, dunk. Right now, his mama Eloise,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd drive her boy to Memphis, Tennessee, Homa Graceland and

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<v Speaker 2>she'd pay to have a tiny Elvis suit be made,

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<v Speaker 2>a custom made suit for her son, the child prodigy. Right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the suit handcrafted by Elvis is official suit maker.

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<v Speaker 3>So is he young Elvis or old Elvis?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would do kind of if he's doing

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<v Speaker 2>the suits. It's Vegas Elvis, it's older.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you got to you gotta keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 3>this kid when he goes to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, his mama always she didn't just get him the

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<v Speaker 2>handcrafted Elvis official suit maker suit. She also to pair

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<v Speaker 2>with that bespoke Elvis suit. She paid to have a

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<v Speaker 2>custom belt made by Elvis's official belt maker.

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<v Speaker 3>No way, this is like the Queen and the Royal family.

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<v Speaker 3>They have like all the official totally perfum exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you gotta imagine like a big old karate

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<v Speaker 2>champion style belled and crusted in rhyanestones and then shrink

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<v Speaker 2>that down to kid sized, right. Now, pay for all this, Eloise.

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<v Speaker 2>She would take out personal loans for this trip. It

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<v Speaker 2>was three eight hundred and twenty five dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you have to understand, Eloise, she had a

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<v Speaker 2>special connection with the King. She met him once. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, no, and Elvis had performed at the Louisiana

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<v Speaker 2>hay Ride. She you want to carry him around on

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<v Speaker 2>her head? I think so. She actually mentioned that in

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<v Speaker 2>her diary. Now, this was in his early fame days,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was coming up. You could still catch Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>at a hay ride. This was nineteen fifty four. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like seventy No, it wasn't like seventy one hay ride.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, so these the two clicked when they met

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<v Speaker 2>at the hay Ride. Years later, I mean decades later,

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<v Speaker 2>when he was on his way out, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>he's all bloated, chomping on pills. Did he die seventy seven? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, I'm not certainly, I believe seventy seven. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is like shoot Out your TV era Elvis. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Elouise was in touch with him at this point of

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<v Speaker 2>his life, and Elvis would call her and then he'd say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>pray with me, and they would sit on the phone

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<v Speaker 2>and pray together.

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<v Speaker 3>So okay, so I thought he was like I thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was like she had a tying daily moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis is on the phone again, I'm gonna go greet

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<v Speaker 2>by Bible boy. I want to pray with the King.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Now so special bomb with the King. Right, So she

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<v Speaker 2>turns her son into like the princeling and she like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, eventually, interestingly, he was also a prince fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge prince fan was the Kevin Curtis. He would do

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<v Speaker 2>like prince impersonations as well. Did he evolved into Prince No, well,

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<v Speaker 2>she want him to be become the prince to the king.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, he did Elvis impersonations and then he later did Prince.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he went from king to Prince that. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>kid had professional pipes. He could sing. This guy, Kevin Curtis,

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<v Speaker 2>he could. He could front a band, right, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a town he retained into adulthood. He can still sing

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<v Speaker 2>right now. As an adult. He expanded his repertoire of impersonations.

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<v Speaker 2>He did a really solid version of Buddy Holly.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>He also, as they said, he did the Prince songs.

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<v Speaker 2>He also does a wicked kid rock.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like a musical rich Yes, he's just.

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<v Speaker 2>A little jukebox of impersonations. But you know, but you know, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing about kid rock that always find funny is

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<v Speaker 2>he seems like he's from Mississippi, even though the dude

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<v Speaker 2>was raised really wealthy outside of Detroit. Yeah, but yet

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<v Speaker 2>you think, oh, rural South. He's a fancy lad who

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<v Speaker 2>went south totally, I don't. I mean, we know about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so before my dude grows up and leaves

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<v Speaker 2>town as he's a small South behind as a teenager,

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<v Speaker 2>he lost a girlfriend who was his fiance because it's

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<v Speaker 2>the South, and uh, you know, before they could wed,

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<v Speaker 2>she died in a car accident. Yeah, and he was driving.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really tragic. Sent him into a downward spiral.

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<v Speaker 2>Then he leaves home, right, so at this point he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of broken. He ends up living in his car

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago. He's eating out of supermarket dumpsters, which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're one of those like radical freakings, not the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to live. So he leaves Chicago, returns home

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<v Speaker 2>to the South. He returns to Tupelo, Mississippi by then

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<v Speaker 2>his late twenties, he does what others do in the South.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets married, he starts a family, has kids.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, hebrush sorry Southerners.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I'm just saying it's far more common than like.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in New York or San Francisco, people don't understand,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have a lot of social pressures like, well

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<v Speaker 2>you back home, we come down to church, will meet

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<v Speaker 2>you a nice girl. I mean that is a very

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<v Speaker 2>common thing. Doesn't matter black, white, or indifferent. It's very Southern. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets himself a good job as a janitor,

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<v Speaker 2>which he spun into a business where he'd hire others

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<v Speaker 2>to fulfill janitorial contracts. Now he's living the dream. He's

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<v Speaker 2>working making money off of other people's labor, the American dream. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's at home lounging. Other people are getting paid and

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting paid off their work. Oh, he loves it.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, meanwhile he's pursuing his career as an Elvis impersonator.

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<v Speaker 2>So living, right, you have to have your hobby. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he and his older brother Jack, they had a group

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<v Speaker 2>they call themselves Double Trouble. Oh like Stevie Raveon, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of. But if you're wondering off. They performed and

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<v Speaker 2>dressed as Elvis, not as Stevie.

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<v Speaker 3>Ravon and what's his brother's name something Va Yeah, mister Vaught,

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Vaughan.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go go. Nice job. So they were brother

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<v Speaker 2>Both brothers dressed and performed as Elvis, but one was

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<v Speaker 2>young Elvis. It's like Jailhouse Rock era Elvis. The other

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<v Speaker 2>one was vegas Ol Cats in the Cradle, yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But Elvis once in Rhymestone once got like the black

0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.600
<v Speaker 2>hair all greased up. Anyway, So young and old Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>double trouble right. Then fate played a hand. Kevin Curtis

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<v Speaker 2>had a new janitorial contract at a hospital. One day

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<v Speaker 2>he sees something that would ever change his life. Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>The year was nineteen ninety nine. It was December seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>the elbos impersonator. He walks in that his day gig.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's buffing the floors in North Mississippi Medical

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<v Speaker 2>Center and tupelow and he's trying to clear the sump

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<v Speaker 2>pump drain and you know that's no fun, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>he's down there trying to clear the sump pump drain

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<v Speaker 2>in the floor and he spots something that horrified him.

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<v Speaker 2>As Kevin recalled later on, my whole life turned on

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<v Speaker 2>a dime. Yeah, right, take a break. When we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you what Kevin Curtis saw that forever changed him.

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<v Speaker 3>Excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're back, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I was just thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>What were you thinking of?

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<v Speaker 3>How crazy would it be if someone was on PCP

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<v Speaker 3>and they saw Double Trouble performing?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would the PCP factor because it would get frame damn.

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<v Speaker 2>So they'rething so thrown by it they figure they're hallucinating.

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<v Speaker 2>They go home and try to fight one of the

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<v Speaker 2>elvis is because they can't both be real. Only one

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis is the true Elvis.

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<v Speaker 3>He tries to eat their feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd worry about what you think about when we're on breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you gotta think about something, all right. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's nineteen ninety nine, Yes it is. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>party like it's nineteen ninety nine. It's December seventeenth. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>bout to be y two k right, kookie, everybody's like

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<v Speaker 2>on edge. Kevin Curtis is working in a hospital, one

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<v Speaker 2>of his janitorial contracts that told you about. While he's working,

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<v Speaker 2>he's asked to leave his usual gig. They're like, normally

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be like slopping a mess on the er floor,

0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, scooping up blood and the mop. Yeah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and this night he's asked to go clean up a

0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:05.919
<v Speaker 2>different sort of mess. It's actually rough business, Elizabeth. As

0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Curtis, he recounted in an article with a GQ magazine,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm slipping and sliding in blood and guts.

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<v Speaker 2>After three hours, I'm dehydrated, sweating, burning up. Gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>something to drink, right, So he's down there and mopping

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<v Speaker 2>up whatever this mess was. He goes on the hunt

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<v Speaker 2>for like a doctor pepper or something cold like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Pops open a fridge. There are no cold drinks, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>none whatsoever. No doctor pepper for this poor man.

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<v Speaker 3>What kind of hospital is instead?

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<v Speaker 2>Peering back at him was a severed head. Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you're gonna say he found like a rabbit

0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:33.760
<v Speaker 3>human hybrid.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but that'd be great though. No, he said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just this man's head and the back ahead. So as

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin Curtis remembered it, quote, first thing I saw was

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<v Speaker 2>an arm wrapped in a plastic with a barcode and

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<v Speaker 2>a leg wrapped in plastic. The whole bottom portion of

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<v Speaker 2>the refrigerator's legs, arms, feet, hands, and eyes and a brain.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh at the eye level of the fridge was the

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<v Speaker 2>severed heaven of a man I'd seen alive in the

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<v Speaker 2>er a couple nights before. Oh no, right, so he shook.

0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.920
<v Speaker 2>He's absolutely just beside himself. The fridge is chocol block

0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.879
<v Speaker 2>with chilled body parts. Horrifies him to his innocent cores.

0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Right then things got worse, I think, Kevin Curtis, you would. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the next night. He's back at where Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>gets called upstairs for a meeting in an executive's office.

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<v Speaker 2>He's escorted there by security. And this is not just

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<v Speaker 2>any executive's office, Elizabeth. He was taken to the hospital

0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.159
<v Speaker 2>CEO's office. Yeah, a man named Jeff Barber. So this

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<v Speaker 2>cat Jeff the barbar beef Cake, the CEO of the hospital.

0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.160
<v Speaker 2>He's not alone in his office for five other men. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they all had suits on. Look an official. They have

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<v Speaker 2>some legal documents on a table. Kevin was told he'd

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<v Speaker 2>need to sign the documents because he was, in a word,

0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a little bit reluctant when he was told this. It

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<v Speaker 2>says Paul K. Curtis agreed that on December the seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in an area of the hospital I was

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<v Speaker 2>not authorized to be in and I'm going to be

0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.640
<v Speaker 2>suspended without pay. Well, this batter is being investigated, Kevin Curtis,

0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:56.160
<v Speaker 2>He didn't come into that. No, no, no, he done

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.879
<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong. Right, So as he tells it, quote, I

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<v Speaker 2>stood up and I said that that's a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not signing that this has something to do with

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:06.400
<v Speaker 2>those body parts I found. They yanked the PHONA, dialed

0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 2>four digits. Six security guards grabbed me, tackled me, handcuffed me,

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:12.840
<v Speaker 2>walk me across the street, and said you are here

0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:16.040
<v Speaker 2>by banned for life from the North Mississippi Medical Center.

0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh right. Kevin Curtsey becomes convinced that the largest hospital

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<v Speaker 2>in Tupelo is actually part of a dark trade. It

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<v Speaker 2>was black market orgon harvest in. Well.

0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.040
<v Speaker 3>I would just think they're just like doing it for

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 3>scientific research.

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:29.760
<v Speaker 2>One would think with the arcos and all.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, this starts a crusade for him to go warn

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the public about the body part of course, Yeah, we've

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:37.360
<v Speaker 2>got orgon harvesters at Tupelo.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and if I am going to get that news

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<v Speaker 3>broken to me. I want someone to look like Elvis

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 3>when they're telling.

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:47.000
<v Speaker 2>A trusted figure. Yes. So this choice to start this

0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:50.240
<v Speaker 2>crusade warning the public about the organ harvesters, it goes

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 2>about as well as you might guess. It ruins his life. Yeah,

0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 2>So he gets active online. He finds forums of like

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 2>minded conspiracy theorists. He tells them what all he knows,

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.240
<v Speaker 2>what he saw firsthand, what he was pressured to do.

0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>His MySpace page becomes this like scroll of body harvesting

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.800
<v Speaker 2>focus post. Friends begin to distance themselves. Elizabeth family worries

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.560
<v Speaker 2>about him. They confront him. They're like, you need to stop,

0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, this only makes me go harder. Oh no,

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 2>because you know he's being suppressed, right, dude. His crusade

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to bring back the black market Oregon harvesting cabal into

0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the light. Kevin Curtis loses his job, then he gets

0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 2>ANO one. He loses that job, then he loses the

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<v Speaker 2>one after that, and the one after that, starting a

0:21:29.320 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>long string of jobs. Right. He also loses gigs as

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<v Speaker 2>an Elvis impersonator. Oh because okay, but just imagine you're

0:21:35.520 --> 0:21:37.240
<v Speaker 2>in the crowd. Elizabeth and you would expect to hear

0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 2>suspicious eyes afterward? Do you not expect to hear suspicious

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 2>eyebrokers in your local hospital? Right?

0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:46.520
<v Speaker 3>So he was like telling everyone from stage.

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.840
<v Speaker 2>He'd be up on stage at like the Tupelo Elvis Festival,

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.920
<v Speaker 2>and Kevin Curtz decided he'd educate the whole gathered crowd

0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.199
<v Speaker 2>about all the dangers lurking in the corridors of their

0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:54.919
<v Speaker 2>biggest hospital.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like I said, if you've got to hear it

0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.200
<v Speaker 3>here from from Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one, right. But his brother Jack was up.

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<v Speaker 2>They're standing on stage with them because remember it's double

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Trouble Trouble, right, so he had to listen to Kevin

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Curtis ranting about the orgon harvesters, and he knew immediately

0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.560
<v Speaker 2>this is bad for Double Trouble. As he said, I thought,

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, we'll never sing again.

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Wait, is there like footage of this? I would pay

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.040
<v Speaker 3>so much to go back in time.

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure you get back.

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.800
<v Speaker 3>A VHS there to watch him do this.

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:26.800
<v Speaker 2>In full helves helves is standing there.

0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 3>Embarrassing, and then the guy next to me is on PCP.

0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 2>That you've given to him. Huh. So from this point

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.959
<v Speaker 2>on Kevin Curtis, he begins a long run of like

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 2>run ins with the law. Right, He's just like constantly

0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.399
<v Speaker 2>getting arrested over and over and over again. Most of the

0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 2>charges they're misdemeanors. So he's getting busted for like public

0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:46.280
<v Speaker 2>intoxication things like that. He gets busted twenty two times

0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.639
<v Speaker 2>over a thirteen year period. Yeah, so that wasn't all

0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 2>because over that same period, his house burned down. Oh

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 2>my gosh, car exploded in separate events. Wait, oh yeah,

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 2>his wife though, Laura, she said that it was their

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.159
<v Speaker 2>fault of the car exploded because the battery was not

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 2>wired correctly.

0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:04.680
<v Speaker 3>So what is going on in the car that they're like, well,

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, we had the regular wiring and we saw

0:23:06.600 --> 0:23:08.600
<v Speaker 3>it trial some little.

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Because we see if we can juice the air conditions,

0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 2>and they made it blow up. Yes, apparently that's what

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 2>she says. I didn't see the reports, but yeah, I'm

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 2>not a mechanic. No, but I don't think it works

0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 2>between you, me and the shade tree over there. I'm

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.960
<v Speaker 2>saying this tanky Now, Laura, why she can't endure all this? Right?

0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 2>So she and the kids they leave. Now. Meanwhile, Kevin's

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>concentrated on his MySpace page Crusades, you know, so his

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>post Meanwhile, they always ended in this really dystopian, messianic

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>kind of rather cryptic sign off. All this supposts would

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.640
<v Speaker 2>be like, I am case and I approved this message.

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.840
<v Speaker 3>That's amazing. At this point, my space is the one

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.160
<v Speaker 3>where you had music on your land.

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, exactly your listen. I'm just trying to imagine.

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm visualizing his MySpace and I'm trying to think of this.

0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Tom was worried about him. Tom from my space is

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.640
<v Speaker 2>like bro sending him my messages. Anyway, So to those

0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 2>who were worried about my man's mental health, Kevin Curtis

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:01.800
<v Speaker 2>would gladly, proudly, defiantly tell them they ruined my career,

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 2>burned down my home, killed my dogs, my cat, my rabbit,

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 2>blew up my car, destroying my marriage. Have me arrested

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty two times, and you want me to quit. I

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 2>will keep on fighting until Jesus Christ decides it's time

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:16.280
<v Speaker 2>for me to go. So he ain't given them. This

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.040
<v Speaker 2>is what I'm saying. Wow, now you may be thinking,

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.200
<v Speaker 2>I can hear it, Saron, I hear how this guy

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 2>might spiral to the point that he'd send an envelope

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>of rice into the Whiteah And you'd be wrong, Elizabeth. Oh,

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 2>but we'd all be wrong because we all think we

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>can hear it, because it's right there, right, and so

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 2>much sound. We know this story. But this is ridiculous crime, Elizabeth,

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 2>not CNN. So trust this will go nowhere where you

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 2>think it will go. Enter Kevin Curtis's arch enemy and

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 2>sworn rival, Everett Dutsky. But in the South they pronounced

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 2>it dusky.

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay, he has ames.

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Poor nemesis and arts rival.

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:49.720
<v Speaker 3>That's amazing.

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 2>Evert Duski dusky. He was a Tupelo miss micro celebrity

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>of his own nature. Yes. No, Like Kevin Curtis, Everett

0:24:57.280 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 2>was a taekwondo instructor. He was allo a local musician.

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Originally from Kentucky. He was born in Louisville. His family

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.199
<v Speaker 2>later migrated to Texas, and just like Kevin Curtis, in

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>his teen years, he was also visited by tragedy. His

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>older brother died of suicide. Oh God, so that sent

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Everett inward right, and it made him mean. According to

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.879
<v Speaker 2>his own father, Lennis dutch Key quote, that was probably

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the event that caused him to learn how to hate.

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:25:20.119 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Now. So eventually, as an adult, old Edward dutch Key,

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 2>he becomes a martial arts instructor, specifically taekwondo, but he

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 2>couldn't keep a gig. He kept getting fired. He was

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.680
<v Speaker 2>fired one place for stealing. At another dojo, he was

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>fired for sleeping with the married mother of one of

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 2>his students. Of course, he claimed Innis in Elizabeth. It

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>wasn't his fault. He did nothing wrong, and then he

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>even he made good on it. He married the student's

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>mother once she divorced her husband, and their marriage only

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:45.199
<v Speaker 2>lasted six months. Anyway, at some point he moves to Tupelo,

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>all right, So once there he starts an independent newspaper,

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>because of course you need.

0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 3>To be into town and start a paper.

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the tagline for the newspaper was quote, I will

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>print any story in northeast Mississippi, no matter how big

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.199
<v Speaker 2>or small or controversial. If the Daily Journal will not

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>tell your story, I will amazing. Now the Daily Journal,

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>that's the big paper in Tupelo. That quote, by the way,

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 2>is what Kevin Curtis recalled reading this local indie paper.

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 2>It's no longer in print. I couldn't find stuff online,

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>very scampyy. Copies apparently remained to check. So we have

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.959
<v Speaker 2>to take his word for it. But anyway, this tagline

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 2>that's stuck with Kevin Curtis. He goes he had a

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>story to tell, all right, So two thousand and six,

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>he tracked down Edward Ducci, who by then was working

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.439
<v Speaker 2>in the same office as Kevin Curtis's wife, Laura. Right, so,

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.119
<v Speaker 2>when Kevin Curtis spotted Ewart at his wife's work party,

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>He's like, most is my opportunity meant to be? He'd

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 2>already called him with his story at this point, and

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Everett had yet to respond, So Kevin came into the

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>moment a little heated take it away, Kevin. I walk

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 2>over to Dutchy and I say, hey, I'm Kevin Curtis.

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I reach out to shake his hand. I say, so,

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>did you get my phone call? My message? I thought

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 2>you'd print any story, no matter how controversial. Now, at

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>this point in his life, Dutchkey had been many things, right.

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 2>He'd been a broadcaster, He'd worked as an insurance salesman.

0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 2>He was an aspiring local musician, not to mention taekwondo

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 2>instructor and central to his sense of self was he

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>was a member of MENSA. We'll come back to that

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 2>later anyway. Meanwhile, at this point, Everett has decided to

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>take a turn in politics. So that's the perfect profession

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>for a man like him who's unlikable and mean. Right,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 2>So he runs for state legislature. Oh yeah, So when

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.280
<v Speaker 2>he and Kevin Curti has met, he had other things

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>in his indie paper on his mind. He was thinking

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>about his future in politics, and he told Kevin Curtis

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 2>as much. And he told him he wouldn't publish a

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 2>story about the big hospital, not while I'm running for

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>state legislature. Right, So Kevin Curtis calls him a liar

0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to his face because and there he is at his

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 2>wife's work party, right, and he's getting heated about Oregon

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 2>harvesting and body brokers. Never a good look. Kevin Curtisy

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 2>loses sight of all of this because he's focused on

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the truth. Elizabeth, and I say, and I quote, I said, oh,

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.879
<v Speaker 2>so you're a liar. Your paper says you'll print any story,

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>no matter how big or controversial. I got a story,

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 2>So are you gonna interview me? This is all happening

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>at a work party. His wife, Laura recalled that first

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.119
<v Speaker 2>meeting of Kevin Curtis and Evert dutch Key. She saw

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 2>her coworker, her work friend, mind you, sweating and shaking

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why. So she told her husband

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>to leave Evart alone, right, and Kevin did. He leaves

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 2>the party. Ever dutch Key turns to Laura and says,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 2>I never want to see that guy again. This marked

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of their seven year long feud. Oh no, no, Interestingly,

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>these two men have a lot in comment on the surfaces.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 2>They were both taekwondo kicking martial arts instructors, they were

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 2>both local musicians, They both liked Laura, they were both

0:28:24.440 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 2>local legends. And as Laura recalled about ever dutch Key,

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth quote, he dressed funny. He'd wear a pinstriped suit,

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 2>and he would wear that same suit all the time.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.840
<v Speaker 2>He was just a different character. So you got this

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 2>guy walking around Tupelo and in the same pinstripe suit,

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 2>flashing his Mensa badge to anyone who will listen, strolling

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>along on his way down to the dojo where he

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>teaches local kids to kick ass. That's local legend if

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard of it.

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Hey, there are two main characters in the town.

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 2>There's only room for what thig. There you go. Now,

0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that's not all Elizabeth ever dutch Key. He also had

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>a band, because I remember musicians. So while Kevin Curtison's

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>brother had Double Trouble, the Young Elvis Old Elvis Vegas,

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Elvis Duet dutch Key, he didn't have a family act. No,

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 2>not him. He remember a mean and unlikable So he

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 2>had a blues act because of course he's going to

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>sing the blues. Sort of a one man band affair.

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>He was called Dusty in the robo drum.

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>He wanted to call Double Bubble.

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>He was described. He described his band as quote progressive

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 2>guitar funk tronica for smart people. Oh for smart people,

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Well count me out. He made music for you and

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 2>your people, Elizabeth, smart people with musical taste. But old

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Dusty in the robo drum they were even worse than

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>you might imagine, And I know you're imaginative. So Brock Robbins,

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>there's this guy, Brock Robbins. He ran to open mic

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>night at a spot called Boondocks. Now Brock recalled two

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>GQ how he he grew to resent whenever old Dusty

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>in the robo drum would grace his stage.

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 3>It was horrible, just Dusty in the robo drum at Boondocks.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, come on, it's too much, well, he said,

0:29:57.240 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>and I quote, it was horrible every time he got

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 2>up there, and the tarar bar just flooded outside my

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>open mic. Knot was his first act of terrorism. He

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.960
<v Speaker 2>killed it. Now on the face of it, as I said,

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you might think these two local legends could be actual friends.

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, boy, why do they have to be sworn rivals.

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 2>They both like Laura, they're both musicians. I run it down,

0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.920
<v Speaker 2>even Laura of the wife. She said, quote. I told

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Kevin they really should be friends because they are so alike.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>They were both singers. Dutch Key published a paper and

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:28.959
<v Speaker 2>Kevin rote papers. Dutchkey hated Steve Holland, and Kevin hated

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>this person and that person, so they had hate in common.

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 2>You may be wondering, sin Steve Holland, Who's Steve Holland?

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Just dropped Steve Holland into the story. Steve Holland, he

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>was a local politician and he was Everet's opponent, for

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 2>state legislature. See the Steve Yes, Yeah, he was a

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>character too. He was a longtime Democratic incumbent from the area.

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>To make some noise in his race, old Evert compared

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>his opponent to Boss Hogg from Dukes of Hazard.

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>When that didn't work, he allege it Holland was somehow

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 2>responsible for nine to eleven. Wait. Yes, So, as Holland

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>recalled of this really wild cap campaign, he said, I

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 2>never stood eyeball to eyeball or did with the man,

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 2>but for some reason he just hated the hell out

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of me. He called me everything from gay to communists,

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>everything but a child of God. I mean, he had

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>no campaign or agenda except to cut my nuts out.

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>But you got to get your up early and go

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to bed late to beat my I have held this

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 2>seat for thirty years. I can absolutely make love do

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a bull moose on the steps of the Lee County

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Courthouse and garner more than five percent of the vote. Wow,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>so that's Steve Hollings. So in the end he prevailed.

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>He beat it for duch Kes sixty eight to twenty

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 2>seven percent of the vote.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. It's not like oh I could shoot

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 3>someone on fifth Avenue.

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I could see that moose on the courthouse. God when

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 2>he said this before Trump said the fix. So this

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>predeates that.

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah yeah, wait, so how is he responsible for

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 3>nine to eleven?

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:53.240
<v Speaker 2>What did he do? Oh, it's just talk. Yeah, he

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>like he knew Muhammad Attah. I don't know, I don't

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>know whatever he said, roommates with Mohammad Autah something like that. Anyway, Meanwhile,

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>when he was not in his public spat with Steve Holland,

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>dutch Key was still privately feuding with Kevin Curtis, so

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>he would stock his MySpace page that this was the

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 2>one dedicated to Oregon harvesting. Kevin Curtis alleged that dutch

0:32:11.280 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Key was on his page sometimes like seventy five times

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>a day, which is crazy, right, So one day he

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:18.560
<v Speaker 2>sets trap for his rival, So he baited the track

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>with something irresisible to old Everett Dutchkey, an ego based trap. Elizabeth,

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>can you guess what he said it with? No? Remember

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>how I said he was a MENSA.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Member knows, oh like IQ.

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Test, No, the perfect spot to hit is the soft underbelly.

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>This guy's soft underbelly is MENSA membership. So Kaiskuer question

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 2>was little sure, of course, Elizabeth, are you now or

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 2>have you ever been a member of MENSA?

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Of course not really, There's no way I would qualify

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 3>for MENSA. Also, I kind of feel like I don't know.

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't really trust IQ tests.

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so all right, Well, my father was a member

0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>of MENSA. Used to tell people that I guess I

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 2>do qualify, but I don't join clubs. So through that, right,

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>But you already know that. But for some people, though

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 2>being at a club like MENSA super important was definitely

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 2>he gives them identity, gives them a sense of superiority. Ever,

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Dutschki he was one of those people. So Kevin Curtis

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>had figured that out. So he put on his MySpace

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 2>page and he was also a member of MENSA, and

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 2>he posted a fake certificate proving it nice. Just a

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>few short hours later, at eight to five pm local time,

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Curtis received an email, Kevin, I put up with

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 2>your lies silently for long time, but this one I

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>cannot abide. I am an officer in MENSA, Kevin, of this,

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.480
<v Speaker 2>I am certain you are aware. What you were not

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>aware of is that we keep very good records of

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>who is and who is not a MENSA member. So

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>he consulted those records and he told Kevin Curtis that

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 2>in the email there is one person named Kevin Curtis

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>from New York and one named Paul Curtis from Kentucky.

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I know you are not either of them. I'm giving

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>you one day to remove your fraudulent claims from your website.

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>By the way, Kevin, you cannot be both genius and

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 2>at the same time. Your claim of being a gigging

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>musician is one thing. Claiming to be playing at a

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Montgomery Theater when D. L. Hewley was there and claiming

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 2>to be on tour with Carrie Underwood are harmless lies

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>that everyone simply laughs at you four. But this claim

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 2>is no laughing matter. This is a serious fraud. One

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 2>day is all you have, Kevin, just one day. So

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.799
<v Speaker 2>that's the email he receives. Trap is now sprung. So

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Curtis did not do as ever dutch Key demanded.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 2>He did not take down the fake MENSAS certificate. He

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 2>kept it up. The day passed, Kevin Curtis received another email.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>True to their mutual status is taekwon do experts dutch

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Key challenged Kevin Curtis to come down to his dojo.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I will meet you next Tuesday at my school at

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 2>one pm and we can finish this once and for all.

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 2>So how does Kevin Curtis respond? Don't? Does he go

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>down to the jojo? Elizabeth yea with his fists of

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>justice veil. Yes, let's take a break and after these ads,

0:34:54.160 --> 0:35:16.959
<v Speaker 2>I'll take you down to the dojo. Okay, Elizabeth, we're back,

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 2>ready to go to the dojo. I know you love

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>dojo's okay, Kevin Curtis. He gets all geed up in

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 2>his martial arts gear and he headed down to Edvard

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 2>dutch Key's dojo. And when he got there, nothing, there's

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 2>no dutch Key. So Kevin Curtis took the MySpace I

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>posted on my Space I drove to Taekwondo Plus to

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 2>have a meeting with every Dutchy in the Coward has

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:37.920
<v Speaker 2>let the building.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 3>So they were gonna have a show down at the.

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Taekwon Do dojo. Now, if you ask ever dutch Key,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>he was there that day at Taekwondo Plus and it

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 2>was Kevin Curtis who never came through Taekwondol. So I

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>guess We'll never know the truth of what happened that day.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Only know is that there was no Mono emano down

0:35:58.160 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>at the dojo. So yet they weren't done because these

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>two nun chuck swinging local rock and rollers and they're

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>bitter feud. It was about to go national.

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.680
<v Speaker 3>Oh you ready, I am so ready.

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 2>On a Wednesday morning, April twenty thirteen, an envelope arrived

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>at the Tuopolo Justice Courthouse. Someone in the mail room

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 2>noticed this envelope is awfully suspicious, so they noted it

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and they called up to the judge, who was four.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>The envelope was addressed to Judge Sadie Holland. She was

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 2>told about the envelope. She went down to the mailroom

0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to retrieve it. And by the way, Judge Sadie Holland,

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you may have guessed, is State Rep. Steve Holland's mother.

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that kind of South power. So she's just

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 2>as much of a character. She told GQ the story

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 2>of receiving this envelope. Well, sure enough, is just something

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>loose in that envelope. I pulled the letter out, I

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>read the letter out loud. Of course, all the mail

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>room girls had already played with the letter and shook it,

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and they came in there to listen. And then I

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 2>smelled of it. It didn't have an odor to it.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a joke. I told, Oh, I'm

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 2>sure someone that I performed a wedding for. They've been

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>to the beach and they're just sending me some sand. What.

0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh it was not sand, Elizabeth, it was rice. It

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 2>was actually was actual rising, yes, and which is typically

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a very fatal poison, like just no treatment, nothing, just

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 2>put them in the borg and make some whiskey out

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 2>of their bones. Right, So two matching envelopes were also sent,

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:13.839
<v Speaker 2>one to President Barack Obama and the other two Mississippi

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>State Senator. The letter inside the envelopes, they sure sounded

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.280
<v Speaker 2>like the words of one Kevin Curtis. No one wanted

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>to listen to me before. There are still missing pieces.

0:37:23.239 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I have your attention now, even if that means

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 2>someone must die. This must stop to see a wrong

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.240
<v Speaker 2>and not expose it is to become a silent partner

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:36.800
<v Speaker 2>to its continuance. I am case and I approved this message.

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.319
<v Speaker 2>Now that last one was the tell, right, that was

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the one. Now you took, yesci about exactly one Google

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:46.399
<v Speaker 2>search to come across the MySpace page of one Kevin

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Curtis of Tupelo, Mississippi. They raided his home just days later.

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 3>But did Sadie die from sniff and moment?

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>No, this is this is not the one percent. No

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 2>one died. I would have told you that I figured,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>but like I just how okay? But you know what,

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.359
<v Speaker 2>brather me just tell you about all this, like, oh,

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 2>the FBI rated him. I'd prefer that you close your eyes.

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>My eyes a close and you picture it. It's April seventeenth,

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:12.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, and you, Elizabeth, are a Chihuahuah jack Russell

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 2>Terrier mix, yes, one with a very remief coat. You

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 2>are colored like a hole steam cow. This explains your name,

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>moo cow. You are the dog of Kevin Curtis. You

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>two are just rocking and rolling down the road back home.

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>The windows are down, your little paws are up on

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>the edge of the door, your head in the wind,

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 2>your tongue walls out of your mouth. It's doggy heaven

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 2>for you. You live alone with Kevin Curtis, just the

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 2>two of you. You've just had dinner at Laura's house

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 2>with the kids, and now you're almost home. Kevin slows.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 2>As he gets close to home, he waves at his neighbors,

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.640
<v Speaker 2>but they don't wave back. They just sort of stare

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 2>with rather limpid faces, as if they're waiting for something

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.840
<v Speaker 2>to happen. You hop down and saunter over to Kevin's

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:51.479
<v Speaker 2>side of the truck, and you climb into his lap

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 2>at the wheel of his white Ford Escape. You feel safe,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>as if you were lying nuzzled by your mom. Kevin

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>pulls to a stop. He opens the door and steps

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>out to check his mailbox. That's when it happens. All

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of the federal agents in their trucks and patrol cars.

0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>They're undercover sedans, they're blacked out suburbans. They all descend

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 2>on the white Ford Escape. They surround you in Kevin Curtis.

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Then the agents rush from their vehicles and massive officers

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:20.160
<v Speaker 2>from different agencies and bureaus. It's alphabet suit, FBI, HF,

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Secret Service, Capitol Police, Homeland Security, local police, state police.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 2>They're all there. Men in bulletproof vests run up at

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you in the Forida Escape, their assault rifles raised and

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 2>aimed at Kevin Curtis. They are also service firearms in

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.759
<v Speaker 2>hand aimed at you. Kevin Curtis spins around to see

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 2>who the Feds are here to capture, but there's no

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:39.439
<v Speaker 2>one behind him. He spins back around. It's him. They're

0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.439
<v Speaker 2>here for him. One of the cops screams at Kevin

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 2>kurk freeze, do not move, do not he says, way,

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>we'll shoot you. You hear your guy? Kevin meekly asked,

0:39:48.520 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 2>may The cop doesn't answer his question, and Steady shouts back,

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>shut up, get out of the car, get on the ground.

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 2>You don't like this cop at all or his attitude,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.560
<v Speaker 2>and since you're at Chihuahua Jack Russell terrier mix, you

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:02.879
<v Speaker 2>have no so you start parking at this armed cop

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and Kevin reaches up in scoop chet from the driver's

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>seat of his forward escape. He turns back to face

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.919
<v Speaker 2>the gaggle of guns that are now pressed at him.

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.600
<v Speaker 2>You hear Kevin tell the guys with guns in his face, Okay,

0:40:12.640 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I've got my little new cow. Now. The cops don't

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 2>like that. They shot back, drop the dog. Drop the dog.

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Kevin is not trying to hear that. He asked, can

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I just take her back inside and secure her? Definitely not?

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Kevin sets you back down on the driver's seat. You

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 2>bark to be picked back up. But the agents they

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 2>grab Kevin Curtis says, shove them to the Mississippi soil.

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 2>They handcuff him. He asked the officers, am I being arrested?

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.919
<v Speaker 2>The agents just respond gruffly, don't ask questions. We'll ask

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>the questions. You're glad to hear Kevin ask about you?

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>But what about my dog? One of the cops he's

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>holding an assault rifle. He approaches the Ford escape and

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 2>he tries to grab you by the collar. He's all

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 2>like all fourced, no finesse. So you growl at him

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 2>and then you run. You bound past the cop. You

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>hit the ground running. You don't hesitate. The Jack Russell

0:40:56.560 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>terrier part. Those jeans take over. You are gone and

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 2>you disappear into the brush. You hear Kevin Curtis shouting,

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 2>my dog? What about moo cow? The cops say you

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.759
<v Speaker 2>moukow will be fine. Kevin Curtis, he doesn't believe this.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>He hasks the cops, Sir, can you please take off

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 2>your sunglasses? I can see your eyes. Excuse me, Kevin

0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:16.360
<v Speaker 2>explains some stuff. I want to see your eyes when

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:18.480
<v Speaker 2>you tell me She'll be fine because I don't think

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you give a damn about moocal. Now this is the

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>last thing you hear before Kevin Curtis is tossed in

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 2>the back of a Patty Wagon van. Next stop Oxford, Mississippi,

0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:30.760
<v Speaker 2>to be interrogated by the agents from Alphabet Soup. Okay, okay.

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 2>So now that he's in custody, Kevin Curtis, he spent

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>three hours chained to a chair all by himself in

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>an interrogation room, confused what's going on? Why he's been arrested,

0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and he Nelson needs to pee so find now someone

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>comes in. They take him to the bathroom. He gets

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>some relief. Quote. Three agents walk me to a restroom,

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>open the stall and they say, I know it's uncomfortable,

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>but we have to watch you have a bowel movement.

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I say, you gonna wipe me too. Now the agent

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>they're from all these various letter bureaus, they started to

0:41:57.520 --> 0:42:00.080
<v Speaker 2>crack open the nut that is Kevin Curtis. Right, so

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>they told him the victims of what he's done are

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>in the hospital. There's one girl barely clinging to life. Now,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>this is what we call in the interrogation business call

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a lie, so no one was in the hospital. The

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 2>agents just wanted to scare Kevin, so he would blurt

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 2>out what he's done, right, And I'm like, what was

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>in the what? Then they won't tell me, they want

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>me to say it. So this goes on for a while.

0:42:20.760 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Finally the guy from Homeland Security he just runs out

0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 2>of patience. He's like, oh, for Christ's sakes, he just said,

0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:27.719
<v Speaker 2>are you familiar with Rising? And Kevin Curtis had never

0:42:27.840 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 2>once in his life heard of Rice. And he didn't

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>even really hear what the agent said. He's like and

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.439
<v Speaker 2>I said, I don't like rice. I don't even really

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>eat rice. Y'all look in my house. You won't find

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.279
<v Speaker 2>any rice. So the agent actually like, now he's had

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 2>to like correct the good old boy from Tuplow. He's like,

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:44.799
<v Speaker 2>no Rice, and mister Curtis Rice and like anthrax And

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I say, I've never heard of that in my life, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you are a liar, and I was like, huh. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Smash cut to seven hours later, the agents were all

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<v Speaker 2>worn out. Kevin Curtis Is just like got them frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just about as dumb as Rising now as he

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<v Speaker 2>was seven hours earlier, so the agents know we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have our guys due this guy can't be it. Finally

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 2>they know that they aren't getting anywhere, and they asked me,

0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 2>do you have any enemies? Do you know of anyone

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 2>who wants to harm you? And I say yeah, ever Dutschki.

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:15.759
<v Speaker 2>At this point, Kevin Curtis was released from custody and

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the FBI Homeland Security folks they went after their new target,

0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:22.640
<v Speaker 2>the MENSA member Everett doutschke Yes. Meanwhile, a small miracle

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 2>occurred for Old Kevin Curtis. Remember, up to this point,

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 2>he's basically been the organ harvester guy yeah around Tablow. Well,

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>now he's the wrongly accused of attempting to murder the

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:36.120
<v Speaker 2>president guy by the Feds, so they love this. He's

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<v Speaker 2>his conspiracy minded man's idea of a hero, right the

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:41.839
<v Speaker 2>locals they changed review of Old Kevin Curtis, but he's

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:45.320
<v Speaker 2>still the same guy. So on April twenty third, twenty thirteen,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 2>on the steps of the courthouse, he gave a press

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 2>conference upon his release. Now and the press asked what

0:43:50.560 --> 0:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>he planned to do next. Elizabeth Kevin Curtis had answers,

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.359
<v Speaker 2>find my dog moucw she got away when home land

0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:59.400
<v Speaker 2>security swarmed in on me. When I want to go

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 2>check my man. I haven't heard anything. I'm just really

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 2>worried about her. I bought a fish a week before.

0:44:05.400 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And now his brother's standing behind him on the car steps.

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 2>He's got this great helmet of hair, right, just amazing hair.

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.879
<v Speaker 2>And he interrupts. He said, I found her. Now Kevin

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Curtis is taking him back a moment. He continued, you

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 2>got moo cow. My brothers found moo cow. Thank you, Jack.

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 2>So you see, y'all probably know more than I know.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.800
<v Speaker 2>But yes, she's an amazing dog, and I want to

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 2>get to her. I want to get to my children.

0:44:25.640 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen any of my children a week. So

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 2>my son, my sixteen year old, got his first car

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 2>that max wife and I were working on getting them,

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>and I missed his first play when he was a

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 2>bumblebee when he was nine years old, from going to jail.

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 2>So I've been to jail over twenty times and I've

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>never been convicted of anything so far. So the press

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>at this point is like, what this is amazing? So

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 2>order of business for this guy, simo cow, then go

0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 2>see kicks guy gonna say, it's like he established moved.

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 2>He was looking up for you. So later on in

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>this press conference, Curtis he speaks to his plans to

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 2>repay his lawyer for her work because she just came

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>in said are you He's like, no, I didn't do it.

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'll be your lawyer. Right, So now she's

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the people he wants to repay, as well

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 2>as all of the citizens of the area who are

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 2>afflicted with sore feet. And I quote, I would like

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to add that right now, I can't really afford to

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.360
<v Speaker 2>pay her the million that she's worth. But I am

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a license certified reflexologist and I'm going to start with

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 2>foot massage therapy with Christy. That's his lawyer who was

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 2>standing right next to him awkwardly laughing through this. Who's

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be my first client? And I'm going to

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 2>donate one hundred thousand hours to Community Service Northeast Mississippi

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.879
<v Speaker 2>to all you ladies who need foot massage therapy. That's

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 2>my random act of kindness. There's yes, exactly.

0:45:39.200 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't process happening, that's right.

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.480
<v Speaker 2>So I was keeping score one hundred thousand hours of

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>community service. I did the math on that that would

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>work out to be four thousand, one hundred and sixty

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>six full twenty four hour days of massage with sixteen

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 2>hours of one extra day just to make the math

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>work out, so four one hundred and sixty six and

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:58.879
<v Speaker 2>two thirds days. And if you were wondering, I also

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 2>did the math on that, that would be eleven point

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.120
<v Speaker 2>four to one year's worth of time, all of it

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>spent mussaging stranger's feet twenty four hours a day. That

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 2>may be worse than going to prison for a let,

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 2>I would say so. Anyway, Meanwhile, Feds, they're closing it

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 2>on their real culprit, the certified evil genius and martial

0:46:15.960 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 2>arts instructor Evert. Dutch Key. Four days after Kevin Curtis

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 2>walked out of custody, the federal agents arrest Everett dutch Key.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>Didn't take long for the FBI to prove that they

0:46:24.280 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>had the right man. This time. FBI agents had one

0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 2>witnessed Dutchkey leaving his dojo carrying quote the box for

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.279
<v Speaker 2>a Black and Decker Smart Grind coffee grinder, and as well,

0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.319
<v Speaker 2>there was quote a box containing latex gloves that went

0:46:36.360 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>along with the dusk mass that was testing positive for risin.

0:46:39.920 --> 0:46:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh then there was his desktop computer. That's where the

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 2>FEDS found a doc on his hard drive quote Standard

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 2>Operating Procedure for Risin, which described safe handling its storage

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>methods for RISIN. If that wasn't enough, there were also

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the digital records from eBay and PayPal that documented the

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 2>dutchy had paid for fifty red castor bean seeds on

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 2>or about November seventeenth, twenty twelve, and he made a

0:47:00.440 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 2>second purchase of fifty red castor beans honor about December first.

0:47:03.920 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 2>If you were wondering, rising is made out of cast seeds.

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>So the certified evil genius had just committed the world's

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 2>dumbest version of domestic terroories. He just left a pass

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 2>exactly just all the trail for you, right to his

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 2>front door. Now, all in all his vain attempt to

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 2>frame his rival, the Elvis impersonate in martial arts instructing

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.920
<v Speaker 2>local legend, Kevin Curtis suddenly had a leg to stand

0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 2>on in the ear of his community. As he put,

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.160
<v Speaker 2>after thirteen years, I've been banging on every door here

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 2>I am. I got fired and banned from the hospital

0:47:31.719 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 2>after find a refrigerator full of body parts. My house

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 2>burned down and my car exploded. My wife left me,

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I lost my business. Now I've been framed for trying

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>to assassinate the president with Risin. Now, will somebody listen

0:47:44.440 --> 0:47:49.439
<v Speaker 2>to me? Oh? Not only did locals listen, but Kevin

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Curtis was flown out to New York. He appeared on

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 2>The Daily Show when John Sewart was still the host. Yes,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.319
<v Speaker 2>and he also spoke of Piers Morgan back when he

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:59.560
<v Speaker 2>had a show on CNS. Kevin Curtis was treated as

0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 2>a koop by them, as you might imagine, but he

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 2>was no longer the laughable, pitiable figure he once was.

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 2>He was now a cautionary tale Elizabeth of the Internet age,

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 2>a man who'd survived a personal conspiracy theory weaponized against him. So, meanwhile,

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:15.720
<v Speaker 2>evert Dutchy, if you were wondering, tried, convicted, sentenced to

0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty five years in federal presidence. Yeah, he went to

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>the Big House at age forty one, which coincidentally makes

0:48:21.280 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>him one year younger than Elvis when he died on

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:26.480
<v Speaker 2>the toilet. Oh there you go. What's a ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth?

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 3>These are some broken folks, like you think about what

0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 3>if it really was like an organ harvesting thing, that

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 3>he is actually correct and this poor guy, I mean.

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>He's just distracted away from this time. Exactly. He's actually

0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 2>a double hero. Yeah, exactly, My ridiculus take away once again,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for asking, is dude, how powerful is Elvis?

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:49.240
<v Speaker 3>Right?

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean just like I love the idea that the

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:54.280
<v Speaker 2>mom is praying with him. That's a nice sweet moment.

0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 2>But that you know, we can get both three thousand

0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>miles to Graceland and this story out of one man.

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 2>One man's powerful. Anyway, That's all I got for your

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of talkbacks, I kind of feel some coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>You got one to play? Yes? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 5>Hello gee hello. I would just like to say that

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<v Speaker 5>I enjoy your programs, your podcasts immensely. I'm a truck

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<v Speaker 5>find that time goes by much quickly. I feel very entertained.

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<v Speaker 5>So please keep up the work.

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