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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Duntz Zeron Burnette So glad to see.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to see me too.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 2: Right, Look, I got a question for you while you're done.

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Speaker 2: Do you what's ridiculous I do?

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Speaker 3: Now? Hold on, this is my take a while. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: we've been inundated with suggestions for a certain spirit, a

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Speaker 3: certain liquor. Dorito's is all about disrupting culture and bringing

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Speaker 3: our fans unexpected, bold experiences. Okay, So Dorito's has a

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Speaker 3: liquor and I don't really know. It's just like a

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Speaker 3: distilled whatever. It's apparently vacuum distilled, so it really tastes

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Speaker 3: like a Dorito. Oh yeah. The flavor is nacho cheese,

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Speaker 3: corn toastata umami in a hint of acidity, and you

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Speaker 3: can use it for Margarita's, Bloody Mary's old fashions, neat

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Speaker 3: or over ice or anyway Dorito's fans like, says the

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Speaker 3: press release. Yeah, okay, so whatever, right, I got that

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Speaker 3: out of the way. I mean, it's like, literally hundreds

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Speaker 3: of people have been telling us about this, but then

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Speaker 3: you know who swooped in, Marie Noel she's a new

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Speaker 3: friend of the show. Now. She sent us a great email.

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Speaker 3: She said, before I get into all the ridiculous stuff,

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Speaker 3: I want to let you know how much I enjoy

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Speaker 3: your podcast. It never fails to make me laugh. I

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Speaker 3: used to listen to it when I went out for

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Speaker 3: a run. But one day I laughed so hard that

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Speaker 3: it made me cough and I couldn't catch my breath.

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Speaker 3: A nice lady even stopped by to make sure I

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Speaker 3: was okay and wasn't about to die. So I did

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Speaker 3: the only thing I could do. I stopped running all together.

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Speaker 3: Now your podcast makes me giggle during my commute to

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Speaker 3: and from work. We've made someone stop running. We did it.

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Speaker 2: We did it, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So here's the thing though. She also included that

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Speaker 3: she's like, you know what, I'm sure everyone's sending you

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Speaker 3: the Doritos thing, but let me let me take you

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Speaker 3: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: There's another level. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So she sent a link to this Tamworth Distilling company

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Speaker 3: and they have a line of booze called House of Tamworth.

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Speaker 3: Now there are five. There's smoked trout flavored brandy, right

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Speaker 3: Crab trapper, Oh Crab flavored whiskey, o de musk, which

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Speaker 3: is I don't know, some sort of like muskrat whatever,

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Speaker 3: deerslayer venison flavored whiskey. Then we get to my favorite,

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Speaker 3: a favorite unholy rye and the tagline is I drink

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Speaker 3: dead people. It's called grave Robber, Grave Robber, unholy rye.

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Speaker 3: Grave Robber is an unholy rye whiskey infused with maple

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Speaker 3: syrup tapped from graveside maple trees. On the property of

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Speaker 3: Tamworth Distilling lies a malignant old maple whose roots burrowed

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Speaker 3: deep into the nearly unmarked colonial era graveyard. What would

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Speaker 3: happen if we tapped some of the sinister stap sap

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Speaker 3: and added it to our whiskey? Spicy yet sweet, evil

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Speaker 3: yet divine. The life of a grave robber begins when

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Speaker 3: yours ends.

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Speaker 2: They broke the Jeff Goldbloom maxim, they said, Rather than asking,

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Speaker 2: you know, should we, they just went ahead and did it.

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Speaker 3: It is the most god thing to like have, Like

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Speaker 3: the I don't know, I can't even get my head

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Speaker 3: around was that.

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Speaker 2: Considered like goth like whiskey? I mean, like, is that

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Speaker 2: like I think you want that?

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Speaker 3: You know that it's syrup tapped from the graveside in

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Speaker 3: maple trees.

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Speaker 2: God, I'm just wooy enough to be like.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, meet me at the cemetery case.

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Speaker 2: Luckily I had been prepared for this, I thought by

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Speaker 2: listener Eric Buckholt, who sent me ward, will you be

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Speaker 2: throwing these doritos at me? And then you still got

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Speaker 2: and brought the un whiskey.

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Speaker 3: Eric told you, he warned you. I'm not on Twitter anymore,

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Speaker 3: but I used to see him on there all the time.

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Speaker 3: But see Marie Noel, she brought it. Elizabeth, she's my

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Speaker 3: number one roode Dude. Yah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you have?

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, This is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Beyond ridiculous. I'm sorry that took so long. Pale, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I had, Oh my god, how am I going to

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Speaker 2: adjust to that? Okay? Well, do you have a second?

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Speaker 3: Of course I did.

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Speaker 2: I got one.

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Speaker 3: What else am I going to do today?

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Speaker 2: Okay? You remember when Obama was president? I do?

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Speaker 3: I remember that?

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Speaker 2: All right? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Did you know I went to his first inauguration?

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Speaker 2: You did? But how was it was a good?

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Speaker 3: You're amazing?

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Speaker 2: It was really great. How many stars?

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Speaker 3: I'd say eight out of five?

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Speaker 2: Wow, big, big, momentous occasion. Okay, so do you I saw.

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Speaker 3: Tyne Daily in real life.

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Speaker 2: Not the Time Daily, tim Daily's sister Cagney and Lacy

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Speaker 2: Tyn Daily from.

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Speaker 3: About half a block away.

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Speaker 2: Wow, it's pretty crazy. That's what you came away with

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Speaker 2: Time Daily also Obama's president. That's do you remember the

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Speaker 2: news during the Obama presidency when a taekwondo fighting martial

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Speaker 2: arts instructor and part time Elvis impersonator attempted to kill

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Speaker 2: the isn't it with rice and powder? Wait?

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Speaker 3: No, I miss that. I miss that.

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Speaker 2: You're in luck. Have I got a story for you today?

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Speaker 4: Hell? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime, A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 2: and cons. It's all always ninety nine percent murder free

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Speaker 2: and one hundred percent ridiculous. Yes, Elizabeth, I have three

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Speaker 2: questions for you today.

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Speaker 5: One?

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Speaker 3: Two? Three?

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Speaker 2: Do you like Mississippi? Sure? You ever been to Tupelo, Mississippi?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Do you you have? You? Did you like it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I was all right, memorable? Sure did you go there

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Speaker 2: to see Elvis's birthplace? No? Do you like Elvis? That's

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Speaker 2: my third question? Okay, I got a bonus question. You

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Speaker 2: ever heard of the song the Tupelo, Mississippi Flash. No,

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Speaker 2: all right, it kind of goes like this, he said, son,

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Speaker 2: my name is Boba god Ripley. I come to you

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Speaker 2: from Tupelo, Mississippi. I write songs and sing like a bird,

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Speaker 2: and I play licks on me guitar like you ain't

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Speaker 2: never heard now. That is a Jerry Reid song. Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: aka the Snowman from Smoking the Band or water Boy

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Speaker 2: the coach for the rival team and water Boy. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: his track is a teasing nod to the fact that

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Speaker 2: Elvis is from Tupelo, the true below Mississippi Flash. It

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Speaker 2: was a kick for Jerry Reid when Elvis actually performed

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Speaker 2: a cover of that very same song, because Elvis was

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Speaker 2: one of Jerry Reid's heroes growing up, much like Jerry

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Speaker 2: Reid was one of my heroes growing up. But of course,

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Speaker 2: just like you were one of my heroes growing up.

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly now. Elvis, he's the mountaintop, right, He was

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Speaker 2: the goat to mindy a Southerner like, did you know

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Speaker 2: even my father loves Elvis.

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Speaker 3: I think you've mentioned that my.

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Speaker 2: Black nationalist father loves Elvis, which is great. He even

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's out there king. I'm like, oh, Dad, anyway,

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Speaker 2: So tupla, Mississippi birthplace of Elvis. It's steeped in Elvis lore,

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Speaker 2: it's a place where you're gonna find a fair share

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Speaker 2: of nuts. Sure, who's my man, Jerry Read would say,

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Speaker 2: I said, watch him, everybody, that boy squirreling. Now, all

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Speaker 2: of this will prime us for the story I'm about

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Speaker 2: to tell you the cat that I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you about today. This squirrelly dude was an Elvis superfan.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, and like Elvis, he was from Tupelo, Mississippi.

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Speaker 3: I've known some serious Elvis superfans totally.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was a fellow Tupelo, Mississippi martial arts master.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's how far he took it. And one day

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Speaker 2: he was accused of trying to kill the president. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's so much more to this story than that. So so so.

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Speaker 2: In twenty thirteen, the first news articles announced the FBI

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Speaker 2: in the UK, they reported on April eighteenth, twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 2: quote a man accused of mailing letters was suspected rising

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Speaker 2: to President Barack Obama and other officials believed he'd uncovered

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy to sell human body parts on the black

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Speaker 2: we're trying to ruin his reputation. So Paul Kevin Curtis,

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Speaker 2: that's our CATA forty five years old at the time.

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Speaker 2: Pksey case, he's the man in question. Beats my friend

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Speaker 2: sim So he's accused of threatening Barack Obama with the

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Speaker 2: powdery toxin sent through the mail. Right, Okay, Now, on

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Speaker 2: the face of it, this story seems outrageous, but yet

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Speaker 2: it kind of makes sense. Yeah, no, right for real,

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Speaker 2: body part brokers working on the black market, protected by

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Speaker 2: elected officials, decides I'm going to kill the president, you

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Speaker 2: know what. That is ridiculous, But the story it feels

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Speaker 2: kind of familiar, like I believe, like well, I mean

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Speaker 2: up my RV because of the president or whatever. Right,

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Speaker 2: but you throw in the Elvis impersonator part, you got

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Speaker 2: a real story. Now it's international, So that's when it sideways. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: who is this cat? Paul Kevin Curtis seven? Now for one,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Curtis, not Paul Curtis now at best as I could,

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Speaker 2: very early age. Kevin, he was a childhood prodigy Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: as an Elvis impersonator, a child prodigy Elvis will allow Elvis.

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Speaker 2: You ever heard of the Mexican Elvis Elves. Yes, he's

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Speaker 2: my favorite of the Elvis impersonators. But then there's also

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Speaker 2: I think one you like, dread Zeppelin, the Led Zeppelin

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Speaker 2: perform Zeppelin songs and Elvis krooner voice that Wastelvis. Yes, Tartelvis,

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Speaker 2: thank your producer, Dave Tartelvis could not think of that

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Speaker 2: cat's name. All right. He had another one for you.

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Speaker 2: You ever seen the two thousand and one movie three

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Speaker 2: Thousand Miles to Gray Slam? I sure have, yeah, Kevin Cage,

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Speaker 2: it's Kevin cost and Kurt Russell, and.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen it with Nicholas Cage.

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Speaker 2: Leaving Las Vegas.

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Speaker 3: That's not where he dresses up as Elvis.

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Speaker 2: No, he does dress up as Elvis in a movie.

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Speaker 2: In a movie. Yeah, I'm blanking right now.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say it's three thousand miles to.

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Speaker 2: So he's one hundred miles to Graceland. Three thousand still

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Speaker 2: maybe three hundred page version. It was an indie film,

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Speaker 2: three hundred miles. We were close. I live closer to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: I live in perump So, Kevin Costner, Kurt Russell, they

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Speaker 2: play Elvis impersonators in three thousand miles to Graceland. So,

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Speaker 2: with the help of an army of other Elvis impersonators,

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Speaker 2: they pull off an epic heist in Las Vegas, all

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Speaker 2: dressed as Vegas era Elvis. I think I have seen that.

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Speaker 2: I know to kill the parachuting, Yes, yes, parashooting, all right,

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Speaker 2: I thought that would get to you Las Vegas. Baby. Well, anyway,

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Speaker 2: this kid, Kevin Curtis, all right, my dude raised in Tupelo,

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Speaker 2: Elvis impersonating child prodigy. All right. Now, when I say

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Speaker 2: he was steeped in Elvis, his mama was like dunking

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Speaker 2: him in the legacy of Elvis. Right, he imagine him

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Speaker 2: as a donut and Elvis is the hot coffee that

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Speaker 2: mama do. Just dunk, dunk, dunk. Right now, his mama Eloise,

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Speaker 2: Now, his mama always she didn't just get him the

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Speaker 3: No way, this is like the Queen and the Royal family.

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Speaker 2: that down to kid sized, right. Now, pay for all this, Eloise.

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Speaker 2: He also, as they said, he did the Prince songs.

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Speaker 2: So he gets himself a good job as a janitor,

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Speaker 2: He's at home lounging. Other people are getting paid and

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Speaker 2: And also, meanwhile he's pursuing his career as an Elvis impersonator.

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Speaker 2: they call themselves Double Trouble. Oh like Stevie Raveon, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There you go go. Nice job. So they were brother

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Speaker 2: double trouble right. Then fate played a hand. Kevin Curtis

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Speaker 2: he sees something that would ever change his life. Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: The year was nineteen ninety nine. It was December seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: the elbos impersonator. He walks in that his day gig.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's buffing the floors in North Mississippi Medical

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Speaker 2: As Kevin recalled later on, my whole life turned on

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Speaker 2: a dime. Yeah, right, take a break. When we get back,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Kevin Curtis saw that forever changed him.

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Speaker 3: Excellent.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 3: You know what I was just thinking?

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Speaker 2: What were you thinking of?

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Speaker 3: How crazy would it be if someone was on PCP

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Speaker 2: Why would the PCP factor because it would get frame damn.

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Speaker 2: So they'rething so thrown by it they figure they're hallucinating.

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Speaker 2: Elvis is the true Elvis.

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Speaker 3: He tries to eat their feet.

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Speaker 2: I'd worry about what you think about when we're on breaks.

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Speaker 2: You know, you gotta think about something, all right. So

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Speaker 2: it's nineteen ninety nine, Yes it is. You're going to

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Speaker 2: bout to be y two k right, kookie, everybody's like

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Speaker 2: you know, scooping up blood and the mop. Yeah. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: After three hours, I'm dehydrated, sweating, burning up. Gotta have

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Speaker 2: Pops open a fridge. There are no cold drinks, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 3: What kind of hospital is instead?

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Speaker 2: Peering back at him was a severed head. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say he found like a rabbit

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Speaker 2: No, but that'd be great though. No, he said, it's

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Speaker 2: just this man's head and the back ahead. So as

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Speaker 2: Kevin Curtis remembered it, quote, first thing I saw was

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Speaker 2: He's absolutely just beside himself. The fridge is chocol block

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Speaker 2: Right then things got worse, I think, Kevin Curtis, you would. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is the next night. He's back at where Kevin

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Speaker 2: He's escorted there by security. And this is not just

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Speaker 2: CEO's office. Yeah, a man named Jeff Barber. So this

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Speaker 2: He's not alone in his office for five other men. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they all had suits on. Look an official. They have

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Speaker 2: some legal documents on a table. Kevin was told he'd

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Speaker 2: suspended without pay. Well, this batter is being investigated, Kevin Curtis,

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Speaker 2: He didn't come into that. No, no, no, he done

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Speaker 2: four digits. Six security guards grabbed me, tackled me, handcuffed me,

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Speaker 2: walk me across the street, and said you are here

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Speaker 2: by banned for life from the North Mississippi Medical Center.

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Speaker 2: Oh right. Kevin Curtsey becomes convinced that the largest hospital

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Speaker 3: I would just think they're just like doing it for

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Speaker 2: One would think with the arcos and all.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this starts a crusade for him to go warn

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Speaker 3: Well, and if I am going to get that news

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Speaker 3: when they're telling.

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Speaker 2: A trusted figure. Yes. So this choice to start this

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Speaker 2: So he gets active online. He finds forums of like

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Speaker 2: His MySpace page becomes this like scroll of body harvesting

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00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,800
Speaker 2: focus post. Friends begin to distance themselves. Elizabeth family worries

429
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: about him. They confront him. They're like, you need to stop,

430
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 2: and he's like, this only makes me go harder. Oh no,

431
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 2: because you know he's being suppressed, right, dude. His crusade

432
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: to bring back the black market Oregon harvesting cabal into

433
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 2: the light. Kevin Curtis loses his job, then he gets

434
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 2: ANO one. He loses that job, then he loses the

435
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: one after that, and the one after that, starting a

436
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: long string of jobs. Right. He also loses gigs as

437
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 2: an Elvis impersonator. Oh because okay, but just imagine you're

438
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 2: in the crowd. Elizabeth and you would expect to hear

439
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 2: suspicious eyes afterward? Do you not expect to hear suspicious

440
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: eyebrokers in your local hospital? Right?

441
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: So he was like telling everyone from stage.

442
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: He'd be up on stage at like the Tupelo Elvis Festival,

443
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 2: and Kevin Curtz decided he'd educate the whole gathered crowd

444
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 2: about all the dangers lurking in the corridors of their

445
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:54,919
Speaker 2: biggest hospital.

446
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 3: Well, like I said, if you've got to hear it

447
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: here from from Elvis.

448
00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: That's the one, right. But his brother Jack was up.

449
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: They're standing on stage with them because remember it's double

450
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,160
Speaker 2: Trouble Trouble, right, so he had to listen to Kevin

451
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: Curtis ranting about the orgon harvesters, and he knew immediately

452
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: this is bad for Double Trouble. As he said, I thought,

453
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: oh my god, we'll never sing again.

454
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 3: Wait, is there like footage of this? I would pay

455
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: so much to go back in time.

456
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure you get back.

457
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: A VHS there to watch him do this.

458
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: In full helves helves is standing there.

459
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: Embarrassing, and then the guy next to me is on PCP.

460
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: That you've given to him. Huh. So from this point

461
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,959
Speaker 2: on Kevin Curtis, he begins a long run of like

462
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 2: run ins with the law. Right, He's just like constantly

463
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: getting arrested over and over and over again. Most of the

464
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: charges they're misdemeanors. So he's getting busted for like public

465
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 2: intoxication things like that. He gets busted twenty two times

466
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: over a thirteen year period. Yeah, so that wasn't all

467
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: because over that same period, his house burned down. Oh

468
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: my gosh, car exploded in separate events. Wait, oh yeah,

469
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: his wife though, Laura, she said that it was their

470
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 2: fault of the car exploded because the battery was not

471
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: wired correctly.

472
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: So what is going on in the car that they're like, well,

473
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: you know, we had the regular wiring and we saw

474
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: it trial some little.

475
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: Because we see if we can juice the air conditions,

476
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: and they made it blow up. Yes, apparently that's what

477
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 2: she says. I didn't see the reports, but yeah, I'm

478
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: not a mechanic. No, but I don't think it works

479
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: between you, me and the shade tree over there. I'm

480
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: saying this tanky Now, Laura, why she can't endure all this? Right?

481
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: So she and the kids they leave. Now. Meanwhile, Kevin's

482
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: concentrated on his MySpace page Crusades, you know, so his

483
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: post Meanwhile, they always ended in this really dystopian, messianic

484
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: kind of rather cryptic sign off. All this supposts would

485
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: be like, I am case and I approved this message.

486
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 3: That's amazing. At this point, my space is the one

487
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 3: where you had music on your land.

488
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly your listen. I'm just trying to imagine.

489
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: I'm visualizing his MySpace and I'm trying to think of this.

490
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: Tom was worried about him. Tom from my space is

491
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 2: like bro sending him my messages. Anyway, So to those

492
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 2: who were worried about my man's mental health, Kevin Curtis

493
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: would gladly, proudly, defiantly tell them they ruined my career,

494
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: burned down my home, killed my dogs, my cat, my rabbit,

495
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: blew up my car, destroying my marriage. Have me arrested

496
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: twenty two times, and you want me to quit. I

497
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: will keep on fighting until Jesus Christ decides it's time

498
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: for me to go. So he ain't given them. This

499
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. Wow, now you may be thinking,

500
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: I can hear it, Saron, I hear how this guy

501
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: might spiral to the point that he'd send an envelope

502
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: of rice into the Whiteah And you'd be wrong, Elizabeth. Oh,

503
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: but we'd all be wrong because we all think we

504
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: can hear it, because it's right there, right, and so

505
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: much sound. We know this story. But this is ridiculous crime, Elizabeth,

506
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: not CNN. So trust this will go nowhere where you

507
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: think it will go. Enter Kevin Curtis's arch enemy and

508
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: sworn rival, Everett Dutsky. But in the South they pronounced

509
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: it dusky.

510
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 3: Okay, he has ames.

511
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: Poor nemesis and arts rival.

512
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

513
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 2: Evert Duski dusky. He was a Tupelo miss micro celebrity

514
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: of his own nature. Yes. No, Like Kevin Curtis, Everett

515
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: was a taekwondo instructor. He was allo a local musician.

516
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: Originally from Kentucky. He was born in Louisville. His family

517
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: later migrated to Texas, and just like Kevin Curtis, in

518
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: his teen years, he was also visited by tragedy. His

519
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: older brother died of suicide. Oh God, so that sent

520
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: Everett inward right, and it made him mean. According to

521
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 2: his own father, Lennis dutch Key quote, that was probably

522
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 2: the event that caused him to learn how to hate.

523
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Oh.

524
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 2: Now. So eventually, as an adult, old Edward dutch Key,

525
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: he becomes a martial arts instructor, specifically taekwondo, but he

526
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: couldn't keep a gig. He kept getting fired. He was

527
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: fired one place for stealing. At another dojo, he was

528
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: fired for sleeping with the married mother of one of

529
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: his students. Of course, he claimed Innis in Elizabeth. It

530
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: wasn't his fault. He did nothing wrong, and then he

531
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: even he made good on it. He married the student's

532
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: mother once she divorced her husband, and their marriage only

533
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 2: lasted six months. Anyway, at some point he moves to Tupelo,

534
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: all right, So once there he starts an independent newspaper,

535
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 2: because of course you need.

536
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: To be into town and start a paper.

537
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Yes, the tagline for the newspaper was quote, I will

538
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: print any story in northeast Mississippi, no matter how big

539
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 2: or small or controversial. If the Daily Journal will not

540
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: tell your story, I will amazing. Now the Daily Journal,

541
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: that's the big paper in Tupelo. That quote, by the way,

542
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 2: is what Kevin Curtis recalled reading this local indie paper.

543
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: It's no longer in print. I couldn't find stuff online,

544
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: very scampyy. Copies apparently remained to check. So we have

545
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 2: to take his word for it. But anyway, this tagline

546
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: that's stuck with Kevin Curtis. He goes he had a

547
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: story to tell, all right, So two thousand and six,

548
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: he tracked down Edward Ducci, who by then was working

549
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: in the same office as Kevin Curtis's wife, Laura. Right, so,

550
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: when Kevin Curtis spotted Ewart at his wife's work party,

551
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: He's like, most is my opportunity meant to be? He'd

552
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: already called him with his story at this point, and

553
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: Everett had yet to respond, So Kevin came into the

554
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 2: moment a little heated take it away, Kevin. I walk

555
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: over to Dutchy and I say, hey, I'm Kevin Curtis.

556
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: I reach out to shake his hand. I say, so,

557
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: did you get my phone call? My message? I thought

558
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: you'd print any story, no matter how controversial. Now, at

559
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: this point in his life, Dutchkey had been many things, right.

560
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: He'd been a broadcaster, He'd worked as an insurance salesman.

561
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 2: He was an aspiring local musician, not to mention taekwondo

562
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 2: instructor and central to his sense of self was he

563
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: was a member of MENSA. We'll come back to that

564
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: later anyway. Meanwhile, at this point, Everett has decided to

565
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: take a turn in politics. So that's the perfect profession

566
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: for a man like him who's unlikable and mean. Right,

567
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: So he runs for state legislature. Oh yeah, So when

568
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: he and Kevin Curti has met, he had other things

569
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: in his indie paper on his mind. He was thinking

570
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: about his future in politics, and he told Kevin Curtis

571
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: as much. And he told him he wouldn't publish a

572
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: story about the big hospital, not while I'm running for

573
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: state legislature. Right, So Kevin Curtis calls him a liar

574
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: to his face because and there he is at his

575
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: wife's work party, right, and he's getting heated about Oregon

576
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: harvesting and body brokers. Never a good look. Kevin Curtisy

577
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: loses sight of all of this because he's focused on

578
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: the truth. Elizabeth, and I say, and I quote, I said, oh,

579
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: so you're a liar. Your paper says you'll print any story,

580
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: no matter how big or controversial. I got a story,

581
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: So are you gonna interview me? This is all happening

582
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: at a work party. His wife, Laura recalled that first

583
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: meeting of Kevin Curtis and Evert dutch Key. She saw

584
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 2: her coworker, her work friend, mind you, sweating and shaking

585
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: and I don't know why. So she told her husband

586
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: to leave Evart alone, right, and Kevin did. He leaves

587
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: the party. Ever dutch Key turns to Laura and says,

588
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: I never want to see that guy again. This marked

589
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: the beginning of their seven year long feud. Oh no, no, Interestingly,

590
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: these two men have a lot in comment on the surfaces.

591
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 2: They were both taekwondo kicking martial arts instructors, they were

592
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: both local musicians, They both liked Laura, they were both

593
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: local legends. And as Laura recalled about ever dutch Key,

594
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: Elizabeth quote, he dressed funny. He'd wear a pinstriped suit,

595
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: and he would wear that same suit all the time.

596
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: He was just a different character. So you got this

597
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: guy walking around Tupelo and in the same pinstripe suit,

598
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: flashing his Mensa badge to anyone who will listen, strolling

599
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: along on his way down to the dojo where he

600
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: teaches local kids to kick ass. That's local legend if

601
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: I've ever heard of it.

602
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 3: Hey, there are two main characters in the town.

603
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: There's only room for what thig. There you go. Now,

604
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: that's not all Elizabeth ever dutch Key. He also had

605
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: a band, because I remember musicians. So while Kevin Curtison's

606
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: brother had Double Trouble, the Young Elvis Old Elvis Vegas,

607
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Elvis Duet dutch Key, he didn't have a family act. No,

608
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: not him. He remember a mean and unlikable So he

609
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: had a blues act because of course he's going to

610
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: sing the blues. Sort of a one man band affair.

611
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: He was called Dusty in the robo drum.

612
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: He wanted to call Double Bubble.

613
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: He was described. He described his band as quote progressive

614
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: guitar funk tronica for smart people. Oh for smart people,

615
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: Well count me out. He made music for you and

616
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: your people, Elizabeth, smart people with musical taste. But old

617
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Dusty in the robo drum they were even worse than

618
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: you might imagine, And I know you're imaginative. So Brock Robbins,

619
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 2: there's this guy, Brock Robbins. He ran to open mic

620
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: night at a spot called Boondocks. Now Brock recalled two

621
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: GQ how he he grew to resent whenever old Dusty

622
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: in the robo drum would grace his stage.

623
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: It was horrible, just Dusty in the robo drum at Boondocks.

624
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, come on, it's too much, well, he said,

625
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: and I quote, it was horrible every time he got

626
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: up there, and the tarar bar just flooded outside my

627
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: open mic. Knot was his first act of terrorism. He

628
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: killed it. Now on the face of it, as I said,

629
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: you might think these two local legends could be actual friends.

630
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, boy, why do they have to be sworn rivals.

631
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: They both like Laura, they're both musicians. I run it down,

632
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 2: even Laura of the wife. She said, quote. I told

633
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Kevin they really should be friends because they are so alike.

634
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: They were both singers. Dutch Key published a paper and

635
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 2: Kevin rote papers. Dutchkey hated Steve Holland, and Kevin hated

636
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: this person and that person, so they had hate in common.

637
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: You may be wondering, sin Steve Holland, Who's Steve Holland?

638
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: Just dropped Steve Holland into the story. Steve Holland, he

639
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: was a local politician and he was Everet's opponent, for

640
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: state legislature. See the Steve Yes, Yeah, he was a

641
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: character too. He was a longtime Democratic incumbent from the area.

642
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: To make some noise in his race, old Evert compared

643
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: his opponent to Boss Hogg from Dukes of Hazard.

644
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: When that didn't work, he allege it Holland was somehow

646
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: responsible for nine to eleven. Wait. Yes, So, as Holland

647
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: recalled of this really wild cap campaign, he said, I

648
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: never stood eyeball to eyeball or did with the man,

649
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: but for some reason he just hated the hell out

650
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: of me. He called me everything from gay to communists,

651
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: everything but a child of God. I mean, he had

652
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: no campaign or agenda except to cut my nuts out.

653
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: But you got to get your up early and go

654
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 2: to bed late to beat my I have held this

655
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: seat for thirty years. I can absolutely make love do

656
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: a bull moose on the steps of the Lee County

657
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: Courthouse and garner more than five percent of the vote. Wow,

658
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: so that's Steve Hollings. So in the end he prevailed.

659
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: He beat it for duch Kes sixty eight to twenty

660
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: seven percent of the vote.

661
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god. It's not like oh I could shoot

662
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: someone on fifth Avenue.

663
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: I could see that moose on the courthouse. God when

664
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: he said this before Trump said the fix. So this

665
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: predeates that.

666
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, wait, so how is he responsible for

667
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: nine to eleven?

668
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: What did he do? Oh, it's just talk. Yeah, he

669
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: like he knew Muhammad Attah. I don't know, I don't

670
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: know whatever he said, roommates with Mohammad Autah something like that. Anyway, Meanwhile,

671
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: when he was not in his public spat with Steve Holland,

672
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: dutch Key was still privately feuding with Kevin Curtis, so

673
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: he would stock his MySpace page that this was the

674
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: one dedicated to Oregon harvesting. Kevin Curtis alleged that dutch

675
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Key was on his page sometimes like seventy five times

676
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: a day, which is crazy, right, So one day he

677
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: sets trap for his rival, So he baited the track

678
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: with something irresisible to old Everett Dutchkey, an ego based trap. Elizabeth,

679
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: can you guess what he said it with? No? Remember

680
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: how I said he was a MENSA.

681
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: Member knows, oh like IQ.

682
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: Test, No, the perfect spot to hit is the soft underbelly.

683
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: This guy's soft underbelly is MENSA membership. So Kaiskuer question

684
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: was little sure, of course, Elizabeth, are you now or

685
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: have you ever been a member of MENSA?

686
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: Of course not really, There's no way I would qualify

687
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: for MENSA. Also, I kind of feel like I don't know.

688
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: I don't really trust IQ tests.

689
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so all right, Well, my father was a member

690
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: of MENSA. Used to tell people that I guess I

691
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: do qualify, but I don't join clubs. So through that, right,

692
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: But you already know that. But for some people, though

693
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: being at a club like MENSA super important was definitely

694
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: he gives them identity, gives them a sense of superiority. Ever,

695
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: Dutschki he was one of those people. So Kevin Curtis

696
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: had figured that out. So he put on his MySpace

697
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: page and he was also a member of MENSA, and

698
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: he posted a fake certificate proving it nice. Just a

699
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: few short hours later, at eight to five pm local time,

700
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Curtis received an email, Kevin, I put up with

701
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: your lies silently for long time, but this one I

702
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: cannot abide. I am an officer in MENSA, Kevin, of this,

703
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: I am certain you are aware. What you were not

704
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: aware of is that we keep very good records of

705
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: who is and who is not a MENSA member. So

706
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: he consulted those records and he told Kevin Curtis that

707
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: in the email there is one person named Kevin Curtis

708
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: from New York and one named Paul Curtis from Kentucky.

709
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: I know you are not either of them. I'm giving

710
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: you one day to remove your fraudulent claims from your website.

711
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: By the way, Kevin, you cannot be both genius and

712
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: at the same time. Your claim of being a gigging

713
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: musician is one thing. Claiming to be playing at a

714
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: Montgomery Theater when D. L. Hewley was there and claiming

715
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: to be on tour with Carrie Underwood are harmless lies

716
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: that everyone simply laughs at you four. But this claim

717
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: is no laughing matter. This is a serious fraud. One

718
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: day is all you have, Kevin, just one day. So

719
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: that's the email he receives. Trap is now sprung. So

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Curtis did not do as ever dutch Key demanded.

721
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: He did not take down the fake MENSAS certificate. He

722
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: kept it up. The day passed, Kevin Curtis received another email.

723
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: True to their mutual status is taekwon do experts dutch

724
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Key challenged Kevin Curtis to come down to his dojo.

725
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: I will meet you next Tuesday at my school at

726
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 2: one pm and we can finish this once and for all.

727
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: So how does Kevin Curtis respond? Don't? Does he go

728
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: down to the jojo? Elizabeth yea with his fists of

729
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: justice veil. Yes, let's take a break and after these ads,

730
00:34:54,160 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 2: I'll take you down to the dojo. Okay, Elizabeth, we're back,

731
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: ready to go to the dojo. I know you love

732
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: dojo's okay, Kevin Curtis. He gets all geed up in

733
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: his martial arts gear and he headed down to Edvard

734
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: dutch Key's dojo. And when he got there, nothing, there's

735
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: no dutch Key. So Kevin Curtis took the MySpace I

736
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: posted on my Space I drove to Taekwondo Plus to

737
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 2: have a meeting with every Dutchy in the Coward has

738
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 2: let the building.

739
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 3: So they were gonna have a show down at the.

740
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 2: Taekwon Do dojo. Now, if you ask ever dutch Key,

741
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: he was there that day at Taekwondo Plus and it

742
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: was Kevin Curtis who never came through Taekwondol. So I

743
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: guess We'll never know the truth of what happened that day.

744
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: Only know is that there was no Mono emano down

745
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: at the dojo. So yet they weren't done because these

746
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: two nun chuck swinging local rock and rollers and they're

747
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: bitter feud. It was about to go national.

748
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh you ready, I am so ready.

749
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: On a Wednesday morning, April twenty thirteen, an envelope arrived

750
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: at the Tuopolo Justice Courthouse. Someone in the mail room

751
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: noticed this envelope is awfully suspicious, so they noted it

752
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: and they called up to the judge, who was four.

753
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: The envelope was addressed to Judge Sadie Holland. She was

754
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: told about the envelope. She went down to the mailroom

755
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: to retrieve it. And by the way, Judge Sadie Holland,

756
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: you may have guessed, is State Rep. Steve Holland's mother.

757
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that kind of South power. So she's just

758
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: as much of a character. She told GQ the story

759
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: of receiving this envelope. Well, sure enough, is just something

760
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: loose in that envelope. I pulled the letter out, I

761
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: read the letter out loud. Of course, all the mail

762
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: room girls had already played with the letter and shook it,

763
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: and they came in there to listen. And then I

764
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: smelled of it. It didn't have an odor to it.

765
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was a joke. I told, Oh, I'm

766
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: sure someone that I performed a wedding for. They've been

767
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: to the beach and they're just sending me some sand. What.

768
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Oh it was not sand, Elizabeth, it was rice. It

769
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: was actually was actual rising, yes, and which is typically

770
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: a very fatal poison, like just no treatment, nothing, just

771
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: put them in the borg and make some whiskey out

772
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: of their bones. Right, So two matching envelopes were also sent,

773
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: one to President Barack Obama and the other two Mississippi

774
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 2: State Senator. The letter inside the envelopes, they sure sounded

775
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 2: like the words of one Kevin Curtis. No one wanted

776
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: to listen to me before. There are still missing pieces.

777
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: Maybe I have your attention now, even if that means

778
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: someone must die. This must stop to see a wrong

779
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: and not expose it is to become a silent partner

780
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: to its continuance. I am case and I approved this message.

781
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: Now that last one was the tell, right, that was

782
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: the one. Now you took, yesci about exactly one Google

783
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: search to come across the MySpace page of one Kevin

784
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Curtis of Tupelo, Mississippi. They raided his home just days later.

785
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: But did Sadie die from sniff and moment?

786
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: No, this is this is not the one percent. No

787
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: one died. I would have told you that I figured,

788
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 2: but like I just how okay? But you know what,

789
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: brather me just tell you about all this, like, oh,

790
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: the FBI rated him. I'd prefer that you close your eyes.

791
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: My eyes a close and you picture it. It's April seventeenth,

792
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, and you, Elizabeth, are a Chihuahuah jack Russell

793
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: Terrier mix, yes, one with a very remief coat. You

794
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: are colored like a hole steam cow. This explains your name,

795
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: moo cow. You are the dog of Kevin Curtis. You

796
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: two are just rocking and rolling down the road back home.

797
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: The windows are down, your little paws are up on

798
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: the edge of the door, your head in the wind,

799
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: your tongue walls out of your mouth. It's doggy heaven

800
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: for you. You live alone with Kevin Curtis, just the

801
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: two of you. You've just had dinner at Laura's house

802
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 2: with the kids, and now you're almost home. Kevin slows.

803
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: As he gets close to home, he waves at his neighbors,

804
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: but they don't wave back. They just sort of stare

805
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: with rather limpid faces, as if they're waiting for something

806
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: to happen. You hop down and saunter over to Kevin's

807
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,479
Speaker 2: side of the truck, and you climb into his lap

808
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: at the wheel of his white Ford Escape. You feel safe,

809
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 2: as if you were lying nuzzled by your mom. Kevin

810
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: pulls to a stop. He opens the door and steps

811
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 2: out to check his mailbox. That's when it happens. All

812
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: of the federal agents in their trucks and patrol cars.

813
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: They're undercover sedans, they're blacked out suburbans. They all descend

814
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: on the white Ford Escape. They surround you in Kevin Curtis.

815
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: Then the agents rush from their vehicles and massive officers

816
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: from different agencies and bureaus. It's alphabet suit, FBI, HF,

817
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: Secret Service, Capitol Police, Homeland Security, local police, state police.

818
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: They're all there. Men in bulletproof vests run up at

819
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: you in the Forida Escape, their assault rifles raised and

820
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 2: aimed at Kevin Curtis. They are also service firearms in

821
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: hand aimed at you. Kevin Curtis spins around to see

822
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: who the Feds are here to capture, but there's no

823
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 2: one behind him. He spins back around. It's him. They're

824
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: here for him. One of the cops screams at Kevin

825
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: kurk freeze, do not move, do not he says, way,

826
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: we'll shoot you. You hear your guy? Kevin meekly asked,

827
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: may The cop doesn't answer his question, and Steady shouts back,

828
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: shut up, get out of the car, get on the ground.

829
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 2: You don't like this cop at all or his attitude,

830
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: and since you're at Chihuahua Jack Russell terrier mix, you

831
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: have no so you start parking at this armed cop

832
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: and Kevin reaches up in scoop chet from the driver's

833
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: seat of his forward escape. He turns back to face

834
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 2: the gaggle of guns that are now pressed at him.

835
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: You hear Kevin tell the guys with guns in his face, Okay,

836
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: I've got my little new cow. Now. The cops don't

837
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: like that. They shot back, drop the dog. Drop the dog.

838
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Kevin is not trying to hear that. He asked, can

839
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: I just take her back inside and secure her? Definitely not?

840
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: Kevin sets you back down on the driver's seat. You

841
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: bark to be picked back up. But the agents they

842
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: grab Kevin Curtis says, shove them to the Mississippi soil.

843
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: They handcuff him. He asked the officers, am I being arrested?

844
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 2: The agents just respond gruffly, don't ask questions. We'll ask

845
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: the questions. You're glad to hear Kevin ask about you?

846
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: But what about my dog? One of the cops he's

847
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: holding an assault rifle. He approaches the Ford escape and

848
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: he tries to grab you by the collar. He's all

849
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: like all fourced, no finesse. So you growl at him

850
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: and then you run. You bound past the cop. You

851
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: hit the ground running. You don't hesitate. The Jack Russell

852
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: terrier part. Those jeans take over. You are gone and

853
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: you disappear into the brush. You hear Kevin Curtis shouting,

854
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: my dog? What about moo cow? The cops say you

855
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: moukow will be fine. Kevin Curtis, he doesn't believe this.

856
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: He hasks the cops, Sir, can you please take off

857
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: your sunglasses? I can see your eyes. Excuse me, Kevin

858
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: explains some stuff. I want to see your eyes when

859
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: you tell me She'll be fine because I don't think

860
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: you give a damn about moocal. Now this is the

861
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: last thing you hear before Kevin Curtis is tossed in

862
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: the back of a Patty Wagon van. Next stop Oxford, Mississippi,

863
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: to be interrogated by the agents from Alphabet Soup. Okay, okay.

864
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 2: So now that he's in custody, Kevin Curtis, he spent

865
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: three hours chained to a chair all by himself in

866
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: an interrogation room, confused what's going on? Why he's been arrested,

867
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: and he Nelson needs to pee so find now someone

868
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: comes in. They take him to the bathroom. He gets

869
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: some relief. Quote. Three agents walk me to a restroom,

870
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: open the stall and they say, I know it's uncomfortable,

871
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: but we have to watch you have a bowel movement.

872
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: I say, you gonna wipe me too. Now the agent

873
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: they're from all these various letter bureaus, they started to

874
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 2: crack open the nut that is Kevin Curtis. Right, so

875
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: they told him the victims of what he's done are

876
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: in the hospital. There's one girl barely clinging to life. Now,

877
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: this is what we call in the interrogation business call

878
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 2: a lie, so no one was in the hospital. The

879
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: agents just wanted to scare Kevin, so he would blurt

880
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: out what he's done, right, And I'm like, what was

881
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 2: in the what? Then they won't tell me, they want

882
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: me to say it. So this goes on for a while.

883
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: Finally the guy from Homeland Security he just runs out

884
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: of patience. He's like, oh, for Christ's sakes, he just said,

885
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: are you familiar with Rising? And Kevin Curtis had never

886
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: once in his life heard of Rice. And he didn't

887
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: even really hear what the agent said. He's like and

888
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: I said, I don't like rice. I don't even really

889
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: eat rice. Y'all look in my house. You won't find

890
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: any rice. So the agent actually like, now he's had

891
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: to like correct the good old boy from Tuplow. He's like,

892
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: no Rice, and mister Curtis Rice and like anthrax And

893
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: I say, I've never heard of that in my life, sir.

894
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: He says, you are a liar, and I was like, huh. Now.

895
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: Smash cut to seven hours later, the agents were all

896
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: worn out. Kevin Curtis Is just like got them frustrated.

897
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: He's just about as dumb as Rising now as he

898
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: was seven hours earlier, so the agents know we don't

899
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 2: have our guys due this guy can't be it. Finally

900
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: they know that they aren't getting anywhere, and they asked me,

901
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: do you have any enemies? Do you know of anyone

902
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: who wants to harm you? And I say yeah, ever Dutschki.

903
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: At this point, Kevin Curtis was released from custody and

904
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: the FBI Homeland Security folks they went after their new target,

905
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 2: the MENSA member Everett doutschke Yes. Meanwhile, a small miracle

906
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: occurred for Old Kevin Curtis. Remember, up to this point,

907
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: he's basically been the organ harvester guy yeah around Tablow. Well,

908
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: now he's the wrongly accused of attempting to murder the

909
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 2: president guy by the Feds, so they love this. He's

910
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: his conspiracy minded man's idea of a hero, right the

911
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: locals they changed review of Old Kevin Curtis, but he's

912
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: still the same guy. So on April twenty third, twenty thirteen,

913
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 2: on the steps of the courthouse, he gave a press

914
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: conference upon his release. Now and the press asked what

915
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: he planned to do next. Elizabeth Kevin Curtis had answers,

916
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: find my dog moucw she got away when home land

917
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: security swarmed in on me. When I want to go

918
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: check my man. I haven't heard anything. I'm just really

919
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: worried about her. I bought a fish a week before.

920
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: And now his brother's standing behind him on the car steps.

921
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: He's got this great helmet of hair, right, just amazing hair.

922
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: And he interrupts. He said, I found her. Now Kevin

923
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Curtis is taking him back a moment. He continued, you

924
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: got moo cow. My brothers found moo cow. Thank you, Jack.

925
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: So you see, y'all probably know more than I know.

926
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: But yes, she's an amazing dog, and I want to

927
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: get to her. I want to get to my children.

928
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 2: I haven't seen any of my children a week. So

929
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: my son, my sixteen year old, got his first car

930
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: that max wife and I were working on getting them,

931
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: and I missed his first play when he was a

932
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: bumblebee when he was nine years old, from going to jail.

933
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: So I've been to jail over twenty times and I've

934
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: never been convicted of anything so far. So the press

935
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: at this point is like, what this is amazing? So

936
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: order of business for this guy, simo cow, then go

937
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 2: see kicks guy gonna say, it's like he established moved.

938
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: He was looking up for you. So later on in

939
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: this press conference, Curtis he speaks to his plans to

940
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: repay his lawyer for her work because she just came

941
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 2: in said are you He's like, no, I didn't do it.

942
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: He's like, I'll be your lawyer. Right, So now she's

943
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: one of the people he wants to repay, as well

944
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: as all of the citizens of the area who are

945
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 2: afflicted with sore feet. And I quote, I would like

946
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 2: to add that right now, I can't really afford to

947
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: pay her the million that she's worth. But I am

948
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: a license certified reflexologist and I'm going to start with

949
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: foot massage therapy with Christy. That's his lawyer who was

950
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: standing right next to him awkwardly laughing through this. Who's

951
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: going to be my first client? And I'm going to

952
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: donate one hundred thousand hours to Community Service Northeast Mississippi

953
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: to all you ladies who need foot massage therapy. That's

954
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: my random act of kindness. There's yes, exactly.

955
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: I can't process happening, that's right.

956
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: So I was keeping score one hundred thousand hours of

957
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: community service. I did the math on that that would

958
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: work out to be four thousand, one hundred and sixty

959
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: six full twenty four hour days of massage with sixteen

960
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: hours of one extra day just to make the math

961
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: work out, so four one hundred and sixty six and

962
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: two thirds days. And if you were wondering, I also

963
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: did the math on that, that would be eleven point

964
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: four to one year's worth of time, all of it

965
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: spent mussaging stranger's feet twenty four hours a day. That

966
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: may be worse than going to prison for a let,

967
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: I would say so. Anyway, Meanwhile, Feds, they're closing it

968
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: on their real culprit, the certified evil genius and martial

969
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: arts instructor Evert. Dutch Key. Four days after Kevin Curtis

970
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: walked out of custody, the federal agents arrest Everett dutch Key.

971
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: Didn't take long for the FBI to prove that they

972
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: had the right man. This time. FBI agents had one

973
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: witnessed Dutchkey leaving his dojo carrying quote the box for

974
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: a Black and Decker Smart Grind coffee grinder, and as well,

975
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: there was quote a box containing latex gloves that went

976
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: along with the dusk mass that was testing positive for risin.

977
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: Oh then there was his desktop computer. That's where the

978
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: FEDS found a doc on his hard drive quote Standard

979
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: Operating Procedure for Risin, which described safe handling its storage

980
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: methods for RISIN. If that wasn't enough, there were also

981
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: the digital records from eBay and PayPal that documented the

982
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 2: dutchy had paid for fifty red castor bean seeds on

983
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: or about November seventeenth, twenty twelve, and he made a

984
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: second purchase of fifty red castor beans honor about December first.

985
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: If you were wondering, rising is made out of cast seeds.

986
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: So the certified evil genius had just committed the world's

987
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: dumbest version of domestic terroories. He just left a pass

988
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: exactly just all the trail for you, right to his

989
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 2: front door. Now, all in all his vain attempt to

990
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: frame his rival, the Elvis impersonate in martial arts instructing

991
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: local legend, Kevin Curtis suddenly had a leg to stand

992
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: on in the ear of his community. As he put,

993
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: after thirteen years, I've been banging on every door here

994
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I am. I got fired and banned from the hospital

995
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: after find a refrigerator full of body parts. My house

996
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: burned down and my car exploded. My wife left me,

997
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: I lost my business. Now I've been framed for trying

998
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: to assassinate the president with Risin. Now, will somebody listen

999
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 2: to me? Oh? Not only did locals listen, but Kevin

1000
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Curtis was flown out to New York. He appeared on

1001
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: The Daily Show when John Sewart was still the host. Yes,

1002
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: and he also spoke of Piers Morgan back when he

1003
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: had a show on CNS. Kevin Curtis was treated as

1004
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: a koop by them, as you might imagine, but he

1005
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: was no longer the laughable, pitiable figure he once was.

1006
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 2: He was now a cautionary tale Elizabeth of the Internet age,

1007
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 2: a man who'd survived a personal conspiracy theory weaponized against him. So, meanwhile,

1008
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: evert Dutchy, if you were wondering, tried, convicted, sentenced to

1009
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: twenty five years in federal presidence. Yeah, he went to

1010
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: the Big House at age forty one, which coincidentally makes

1011
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: him one year younger than Elvis when he died on

1012
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: the toilet. Oh there you go. What's a ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth?

1013
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: These are some broken folks, like you think about what

1014
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: if it really was like an organ harvesting thing, that

1015
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: he is actually correct and this poor guy, I mean.

1016
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 2: He's just distracted away from this time. Exactly. He's actually

1017
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 2: a double hero. Yeah, exactly, My ridiculus take away once again,

1018
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: Thank you for asking, is dude, how powerful is Elvis?

1019
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 3: Right?

1020
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 5: Right?

1021
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean just like I love the idea that the

1022
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: mom is praying with him. That's a nice sweet moment.

1023
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: But that you know, we can get both three thousand

1024
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: miles to Graceland and this story out of one man.

1025
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: One man's powerful. Anyway, That's all I got for your

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