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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. Mark Vandermain and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you with and d Kolow. We're gonna Chop

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Speaker 1: it Up with ND. That's a new show we're calling

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Speaker 1: Chopping It Up with ND. Kalus.

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Speaker 2: I like that. It will make some salads and talk football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, salads, that's what you came up with.

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Speaker 4: Salads. I was thinking like chopping wood. But yeah, salad

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Speaker 4: sounds I'm hungry right now. Sorry, Oh sounds good. You

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Speaker 4: didn't eat yet?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, it's dinner time. Well, ND, we

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Speaker 1: have a lot to cover, so let's get right to it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, you are a former teammate of Andre Johnson.

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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to dre getting into Canton?

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Speaker 5: Thankful, appreciative. I was hooping and hollering when I heard

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Speaker 5: that was official in my house, and it just goes

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Speaker 5: to show what type of guy Andre Johnson truly is.

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Speaker 5: And I said this, I said it before, I'll say

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Speaker 5: it again. If he didn't get in, I was gonna

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Speaker 5: start to have second thoughts on the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: and the legitimacy of the Hall of Fame because I've

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Speaker 5: been lucky enough blessing up to play with Hall of famers,

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Speaker 5: and Andre Johnson has had the same, if not more

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Speaker 5: impact than all the guys that I played with who

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Speaker 5: are in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Wowd along those lines, when you play with a guy

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Speaker 4: like Andre that is obviously incredible on the football field,

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Speaker 4: but you mentioned it, he's such a great dude too.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure at some point you've played with players that

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Speaker 4: won All Pro Honors, Pro Bowls, maybe went to the

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Man, maybe not the greatest guys. The

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Speaker 4: were teammates, so you lived with it whatever. But I

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Speaker 4: felt like for me, just watching Andre, just knowing the

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Speaker 4: kind of guy Andre is, that kind of added to

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Speaker 4: it that, yeah, he's this super player, but he's a

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Speaker 4: super dude off the field as well, super.

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Speaker 2: Dude off the field.

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Speaker 5: And then you have to take into consideration the position

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Speaker 5: he plays, where, yeah, those guys are typically vivas, like

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Speaker 5: those are the thirds of the NFL when you talk

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Speaker 5: about wide receivers and how they act off the field,

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Speaker 5: and he's completely opposite of that. I mean, there isn't

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Speaker 5: anything you can say that it's not deserving in a

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Speaker 5: positive way with Andre, but he's he's one of the

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Speaker 5: very few great wide receivers who is just so humble,

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Speaker 5: so down to earth. He did not have those diva

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Speaker 5: light qualities.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so offensive guys defensive guys. But how

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Speaker 1: does a great player on either side of the ball

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Speaker 1: influence players on the other side of the ball. So

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Speaker 1: a great offensive player in your locker room, and you've

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Speaker 1: been with some great ones, how does he influence the

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Speaker 1: defensive side psychologically or however you want to put it.

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Speaker 2: That's it actions.

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Speaker 5: I mean they've been During my three years with Andre,

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Speaker 5: there were so many times where he would make a

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Speaker 5: play and not just a touchdown, not just a fifty

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Speaker 5: yard catch, but a high effort play, a physical play

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Speaker 5: as a wide receiver, and as a defender, you're watching

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Speaker 5: that and you're like, Okay, I'm going to go out

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Speaker 5: there and be just as physical as my freaking wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: How many times you say that the defensive line is

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Speaker 5: you know, they're encouraged to be more physical because of

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Speaker 5: the play of a wide receiver. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 5: type of player he was and the type of teammate

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Speaker 5: he was.

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Speaker 4: I was listening and David Anderson, he was on with

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Speaker 4: Sean and Seth and David's a good friend of mine,

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Speaker 4: and David said, you know, you get to a point

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Speaker 4: where you know you're in there with Andre Johnson and

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Speaker 4: you're watching film, and you know, the coach gets to

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Speaker 4: the point where he's like, well, you know what you do?

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Speaker 4: Do what Andre does, and David's like, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: Think we can.

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Speaker 4: And I've seen plenty of coaches over the over the

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Speaker 4: years that have shown film of Reggie White or whomever

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Speaker 4: and you look up and go, what how How am

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Speaker 4: I gonna emulate that out on a field. And I'm

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Speaker 4: sure any of there were probably guys you were around

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Speaker 4: maybe that.

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Speaker 3: Dude is just that special.

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Speaker 5: It's funny you bring that up. I remember Bruce Smith.

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Speaker 5: I credit him for teaching me how to watch film

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Speaker 5: the right way. And one day we're watching film on

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Speaker 5: the late great Derreck Thomas and his get off was

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Speaker 5: we can't get off like that, so we're just watching

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Speaker 5: it for entertainment. You can't emulate that. And this is

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Speaker 5: Bruce Smith, you know, the arguably the best to ever

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Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 2: If I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Mistaken, I think he has the most SAX in the NFL. So, yeah,

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Speaker 5: there are some guys. And for a coach to tell

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Speaker 5: David I love David Andrewson, but to tell David Andrewson, hey,

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Speaker 5: what and is doing that might go under the bad

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Speaker 5: coaching category.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: But to hear Bruce say we can't do that or

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Speaker 1: I can't do that, that shows some self awareness for.

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Speaker 2: Amaz talking to me now that I'm thinking about it,

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Speaker 2: but I do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not a problem for me.

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Speaker 1: All right, Not to delve too much into your past here,

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Speaker 1: but let's shift gears. We'll get back to Andrea and

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Speaker 1: the Texans situation. But with the Super Bowl just won

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Speaker 1: by the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid now has three

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. Didn't get any infillity, but he went

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Speaker 1: to five NFC championship games, went to one Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: And is Andy different now in your estimation as you

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Speaker 1: observe him. And we can get into the Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: getting in his ear video. We don't know exactly what

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Speaker 1: was said, but man, was that something? But what about

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Speaker 1: Andy today versus Andy when you had him and Y.

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Speaker 5: You know, there must be something a little bit different.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he's first of all, he's great. He's a great coach,

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Speaker 5: and I hate that we didn't bring him a super

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Speaker 5: the same great coach and now he's getting his due.

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Speaker 5: But there's something that must be different, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: say it's in a positive way where he's adapting to

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Speaker 5: today's player, because I could not imagine any player bumping

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Speaker 5: him the same way Kelsey did on the sideline during

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. And because I have so much respect,

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Speaker 5: so much love for a guy like Andy Reid. That

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Speaker 5: TV and give Kelsey a piece of my mind, like

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Speaker 5: you don't do that to Andy Reid. But maybe, and

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Speaker 5: I get the sense this is one of those deals

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Speaker 5: where if you're on the outside looking in, like myself,

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Speaker 5: they might have that type of relationship because Andy Reid

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Speaker 5: is also the type of coach to give you a

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Speaker 5: forum shiver, but you knows how to love so maybe

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Speaker 5: he has that relationship with Kelsey.

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Speaker 6: Was that a metaphorical forearm shiver or is that.

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Speaker 5: No, like he'll actually, hey, man, get in your rush

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Speaker 5: you know, oh, that's Andy being and because he's the

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Speaker 5: same guy's gonna put his arm around you at the

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Speaker 5: end of the game and say, hey, that's the way

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Speaker 5: to turn it up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know who found that that little interaction to be,

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Speaker 4: in her words, creepy or well, my wife texted me

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Speaker 4: and said, by the way, Travis.

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's a creep And I was like, what creep?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I thought, okay, the whole you know Taylor

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Speaker 4: Swift thing, that's where I thought this was going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she goes, did you see him run into the coach?

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Speaker 4: And I just w of course, you know, I've been

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Speaker 3: She goes, that just shouldn't happen.

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Speaker 4: And I tried to explain it kind of the same way,

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Speaker 4: and he's like, yeah, maybe they've got the relationship. And

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Speaker 4: it also felt like you know, a parent, we've been

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Speaker 3: We'll deal with this later. Let's just keep going. We'll

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Speaker 3: deal with this later and then be hind closed doors.

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Speaker 4: Then your exactly, and maybe that's what happened.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up because credit Andy Reid

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Speaker 5: reacted the way I think he could have and should

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Speaker 5: have reacted, then the whole story would have been about

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Speaker 5: that incident. The rest of the team might have lost focus.

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Speaker 5: But for him not to say anything at that time,

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Speaker 5: it just goes to show his awareness and understanding what

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Speaker 5: it means to be a great coach.

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Speaker 4: And he tied the two coaches together from the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: When you were in Philadelphia and obviously you had good teams,

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Speaker 4: how many years in a row it ended up being.

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Speaker 4: But you're in championship games over and over and over again.

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Speaker 4: You finally get to the Super Bowl, but can't get

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Speaker 4: to the championship. Is there a burden that the players

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Speaker 4: feel because they want it so badly for Andy Reid?

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Speaker 3: Did you guys kind of sense that?

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Speaker 4: And I asked that because now you've got San Francisco

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Speaker 4: He's gone overtime into two two of them. Do they

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Speaker 4: start pressing and does it become more difficult? Do they

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Speaker 4: carry a burden because they can't get a championship for

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan? Did you guys sense that in Philadelphia when

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Speaker 4: y'all were going through that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, at the time, when you're in it, you definitely

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Speaker 5: feel it, the extra pressure. But at the time, it's

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Speaker 5: not like, let's win this for Andy. This more we

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Speaker 5: won a Super Bowl, like we've come this far, Oh,

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Speaker 5: we're so close. We loved the coaching staff, so there

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Speaker 5: wasn't that much despite what everyone believes with the too situation,

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Speaker 5: there wasn't that much drama in the locker room. So

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Speaker 5: at the time it was more we just we wanted

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Speaker 5: selfishly for ourselves. But as I've stepped away and started

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Speaker 5: living life away from football, I would think to myself, Man,

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Speaker 5: I wish we got one for Andy. But now he's

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Speaker 5: sitting on three. You know he's okay?

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Speaker 3: Now, Well I heard.

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Speaker 1: Was it mad Dog Russo rating his best coaches and

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Speaker 1: he didn't put Gibbs in the category of Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, all right, now that's on. Now I

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Speaker 1: could go on all because to me, Joe Gibbs, you

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Speaker 1: win three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks and different teams.

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Speaker 1: I know, free agency hadn't come in to the flow

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Speaker 1: yet that much, so he had some of the same hogs,

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Speaker 1: the guys, the offensive lineman throughout those three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: But to win three Super Bowls with three different quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: when the forty nine ers are in the heyday of

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Speaker 1: their dynasty run, when the Cowboys are on the rise

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Speaker 1: and really making a lot of noise, when the Giants

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Speaker 1: have won two and you win three, to me, you're

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Speaker 1: one of the best coaches ever.

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Speaker 6: And he didn't include him.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's Recncy biased because I think Reid

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Speaker 4: Okay, you gotta go win one game, one game, the

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Speaker 4: we're seeing nineteen eleven, he'll win it.

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Speaker 2: The same question quarterback one game.

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Speaker 3: Well it's yeah, Recncy bias, but Rock Goswatherer. I joke,

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Speaker 3: I kid TJ for one day. TJ is gonna get

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's so hard to think that Brady

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Speaker 3: I mean, Mahomes has been stopped in the Super.

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Speaker 1: Did not lose. But he didn't always get there. You know,

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Speaker 6: Years, see how many Mahomes gets.

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Speaker 1: My point is, if Mahomes retires today, where are you

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Speaker 1: But I think it's just a little too early to

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Speaker 5: Here's the thing, and this isn't hating on Mahomes because

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Speaker 5: not betting that anybody's going ten super Bowls. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not betting that anybody's gonna win. You know, maybe

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Speaker 1: I said to people last week, you know who do

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Speaker 1: But I'm never gonna pick against the Chiefs. I'm not

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Speaker 3: Not to this degree.

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Speaker 3: That's what it is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he has three rings now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And how many is of Brady have? Seven?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Only seven?

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Speaker 4: About the fact I told this, I told this to

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Speaker 4: in twenty fourteen, ten seasons seven have ended with a

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Speaker 1: And then all though, I mean, because you had Montana

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Speaker 3: Then you had uh Cows.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Washington. We taught well the Cowboys early nineties.

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Speaker 1: I think we had a lot of bad games, all right.

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Speaker 1: For the Whopper Bowl game, yank, I remember when we

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Speaker 3: But it was.

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Speaker 1: oh man, the audience was superb for this Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and the Taylor Swift thing just worked.

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Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty million, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, how about that. That's a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I wonder how many I think it's domestic. I wonder

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Speaker 1: I want to see what she's doing at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: I know she's a powerful figure, but are we putting

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Speaker 5: I think of that thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year old young

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Speaker 6: So yeah, she might be watching on another screen.

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Speaker 2: How about credit for that?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's you get households, but you also get number

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Speaker 1: Well they'll get credit for that, not our view, but

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Speaker 1: future Nickelodeon stuff do you want to do, because I

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Speaker 4: We talked about this a little bit, and I feel

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Speaker 4: Maybe not the right word, but how did you kind

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just overly pleased.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was a great ending, the way the

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Speaker 5: overtime worked out. I love the fact that both teams

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Speaker 5: I was watching it more as a fan. I was

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Speaker 5: But I didn't think anything of it, Like after the

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Speaker 5: this is a great game, Like I got it into that.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't really thinking about the strategy involved, because I

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Speaker 5: you win the toss going into overtime, I get the

438
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Speaker 5: thought of, man, let my defense rep.

439
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 6: Or find out what they're gonna do first.

440
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 5: Exactly, let's put the pressure on them to either go

441
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 5: for the field goal or go for the touchdown. Then

442
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 5: when our offense is out there, we know what we

443
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 5: have to do. So yeah, I personally didn't think that

444
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 5: Shanahan or any of the coaches made a mistake with

445
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 5: the decisions in the overtime.

446
00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 4: This I read somebody's I can't remember who wrote this,

447
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 4: but this made the most sense. The fact that there

448
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 4: is quote unquote controversy about the overtime rules tells you

449
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 4: that you better find a consistent way to run over

450
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 4: time in the NFL, So what other season and playoffs?

451
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 3: I figure out a system.

452
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 4: Make it uniform for everybody, uniform across the board for

453
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 4: every game.

454
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: The fact that you have a different rule for the

455
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: postseason kind of stinks here. So let's just make it

456
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 1: so each team gets a possession and call it a day. Right,

457
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: Should we just do it at this point? Now you

458
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,919
Speaker 1: know how I feel, Johnny and ND I don't know

459
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 1: if this is popular. In fact, I know this is

460
00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: not popular. I'm old school. Hey, you played sixty minutes

461
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: of football. You guys can't settle this. We are gonna

462
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 1: flip the coin and it's sudden death. Deal with it.

463
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: Play defense. If you lose the coin, toss.

464
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 3: Oh, but we get we don't get the ball. You

465
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: had the ball.

466
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: Wait, you had sixty minutes of possibly having the ball,

467
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: and now you want it again.

468
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 6: No, now we're gonna flip a coin.

469
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: This incentivizes teams to win in regulation. Too many teams

470
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 1: play for overtime. Don't play for overtime. If you're scared

471
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: of overtime, win in regulation. But I'm not gonna win

472
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: that battle.

473
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 2: There's no I actually thought that's the best way to

474
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 2: do it.

475
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: I don't mind them doing it that way.

476
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Speaker 4: I just wish they would be uniform with it, you know,

477
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 4: like do that in the regular.

478
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: Because in the regular season, if you get a touchdown

479
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 1: on the first possession, it's over. If you get a

480
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 1: field goal, you play on to the next you know,

481
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: whoever is point.

482
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Speaker 3: I like the way. I actually like the way they

483
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 3: did it in the.

484
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: Playoffs, right, So if we're gonna do it this way,

485
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 1: each team gets a possession.

486
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 6: But I don't like the ten minute period.

487
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Speaker 1: To me, every time we're in an overtime game or

488
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: somebody is in an overtime game that I'm watching, that

489
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,400
Speaker 1: clock is like tic tic ticul yes, because now we're

490
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: looking at a time and nobody wants that. How about this,

491
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 1: If you're gonna make it a ten minute period and

492
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: still tied, we're going to the two yard line, the

493
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: two yard.

494
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 4: Line, and we're going for two. We're just going two

495
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: point conversions till the day is over.

496
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Speaker 3: That's why I've said.

497
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Speaker 4: When you're down fourteen to the fourth quarter, you go

498
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 4: for two, because you go to win a game in regulation,

499
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 4: like verybel Yes.

500
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 5: I'll say this for the regular First of all, let

501
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 5: me just put it out there. I like the way

502
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 5: they did it in the Super Bowl, so if they're

503
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 5: going to make it for them, But I believe there

504
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 5: was some network issues there with how long the game

505
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 5: could last. That's why they have to what for a

506
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 5: regular season part of the network made a decision.

507
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that it's also when you play

508
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: an overtime game, that's another quarter of football. If it's

509
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute period, obviously, but even at ten minute period,

510
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: that's a big chunk of action there that you weren't expecting.

511
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: What if you have a Thursday night game, what if whatever,

512
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: you get tired, somebody gets hurt.

513
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 3: I get it.

514
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: You could argue, should you go right to the two

515
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: yard line after sixty minutes of regulation?

516
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 3: That might be a little severe, a little extreme.

517
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: But again, that would incentivize you to win it in

518
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: regulations certainly would.

519
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 5: Cool if they had it the way they have it

520
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 5: in the regular season. And if it ends in and

521
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 5: I can't believe I'm saying this because I'm typically not

522
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 5: for kickers and punters, but if it ends in a

523
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 5: tie after the first overtime.

524
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: Kicking contest, kicking you just go to.

525
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: Your kickers gets you have to go to a position

526
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: player to kick Solares.

527
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently kicks it. It'd be awesome, except no kickers.

528
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: All right.

529
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: Coming up on the unofficially named Chop It Up with

530
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: ND show, we will chop it up about the Houston

531
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: Texans off season possibilities and plans. Coming up, It's Texans

532
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: Radio and we continue with the program. Mar cavandermir John Harris,

533
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: and Andy Kalou in studio with us, so let's talk.

534
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: We talked about a bunch about the Super Bowl, about

535
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson going to Canton. I can't wait, and I'm

536
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: wondering if the Texans are going to get that game,

537
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, that would make it if

538
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: they get it, dye, that's four preseason games. I have

539
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: no idea who would play in that first preseason game,

540
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 1: but I don't care. It'd be fun to be there.

541
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: It would be the anniversary what is it twenty three

542
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: years later from the Texans, well, twenty two years, but

543
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: the twenty third season of Texans football twenty two years before.

544
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: The Texans played in the Hall of Fame Game in

545
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and two against the New York Giants. First

546
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: game action of any kind that the franchise experienced. But

547
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: what would be like to be in that game? Now,

548
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: we wouldn't get to broadcast that. I know you're the

549
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: color commentator on Texans TV for the preseason, but that's

550
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: going to be a national game, so we won't get

551
00:24:55,000 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: that game. You're sorry, We'll bring you anyway.

552
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: We gotta watch Dray get in exactly.

553
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: That would be Obviously the game won't be that exciting,

554
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 5: but just the patreet surrounding that game. The NFL has

555
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 5: to do that. To have the first Houston Texan ever

556
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 5: going into the Hall of Fame, you have to put

557
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 5: the Texans in the Hall of Fame game.

558
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

559
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 4: I tweeted out and said, let's do it, Bears Texans.

560
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: Bears had three representatives. Mango got in and then Devin

561
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: Hester and Julius Peppers got in, so they get three

562
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: of the seven they got to be there.

563
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: It's a short drive. I'm what I'm curious about.

564
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: The more people that I've heard speak about it, heard

565
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 4: right about it, whatever the case might be, it feels

566
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 4: like there's gonna be a contingency from Houston going up there.

567
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: That is going to be massive.

568
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 4: Yes, that is going to be massive, and that is

569
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 4: going to be really really cool. And I mean I

570
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 4: hope they don't lose that Verev down the road when

571
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 4: hopefully CJ goes into the Hall of Fame, you know,

572
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: twenty five years from now, whatever it's going to be.

573
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 4: But for the first one, I mean, yeah, well and

574
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: then why what would bring a crowd too? Yeah? Absolutely,

575
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 4: and those are going to be the first time. It's

576
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: gonna be a while. Probably we're gonna wait a little

577
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 4: bit probably.

578
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

579
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: Although although you know.

580
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: It's funny because this was going around last week as well,

581
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: would hop get in if hop has a couple of

582
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: extra good seasons, extra meeting beyond this?

583
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: So can I tell you what he told me? What

584
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: did he tell you? He's got five years planned? He's

585
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 4: five years left in his career? Well he told me

586
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 4: at that point, Blake, He's like, man, I got played

587
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 4: five more years.

588
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going to doubt him.

589
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: No, I'm not either.

590
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: I just wish he was playing somewhere else, like either

591
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: here or not in the division.

592
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, not in the AFC, like go to the NFL.

593
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 4: Well I was gonna say NFC North, But then we

594
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: play them again this year.

595
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: I would love to see him get in, and I

596
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: think the Texans could celebrate that as well at the time.

597
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: And I think that when I look at Andre Johnson

598
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: and DeAndre Hopkins, what always fascinated me was that one

599
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: passed the baton to the other. They're both awesome, but

600
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: they're so different in their play style. It's like art

601
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: the way Andre Johnson plays versus DeAndre Hopkins, it doesn't

602
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: even look like it's the same position. Oh, that guy's

603
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and that guy's something else.

604
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

605
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: Hopkins is just mister spider Man, sideline catch extraordinariy, the

606
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: way he moves his body everything versus Andre Johnson, robo receiver.

607
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: There's just a lot to compare there. But I love

608
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: it that they're.

609
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 3: Both so good in the history of this franchise.

610
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 5: What Andre, I have always said, Pitcher a linebacker playing

611
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 5: wide receiver, but being one of the best to ever

612
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 5: do it with his physicality, his strength, his size. But

613
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 5: you're absolutely right, such different styles, but the production is

614
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 5: through the roof.

615
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, when a guy gets into the Hall of Fame,

616
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 4: ind when a teammate of yours has got into the

617
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, what's that like for the guys that

618
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: played with them, maybe not for a you you know,

619
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 4: guys maybe that have been together. You know, what's that

620
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 4: kind of like for a player to see, you know,

621
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: his teammate, his good friend go into the.

622
00:27:58,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame?

623
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 4: I mean is that I was just listening to David

624
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 4: Anderson talking about that the other day, and he I

625
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 4: could tell he was kind of going through that moment

626
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: of this is like one of the coolest things, and

627
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: yet it's sort of surreal. This guy that I know this, well,

628
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: he's my great friend, He's going in the Hall of Fame.

629
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: What's that like for a player to kind of see

630
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: his guy or his teammate going to the Hall of Fame?

631
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 5: I mean, this special, especially when the guy is a

632
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 5: special off the fields. Andre, you know, like we talked

633
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 5: about in the first segment, because I've known some guys

634
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 5: that have going into the Hall of Fame. I played

635
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 5: with him and was like, oh, yeah, okay, cool, good

636
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: for him. But with Andre and also the unknown because

637
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 5: there's still that thought like, ah, they might might not

638
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: give it to him even though he's deserving. So it

639
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 5: made it that much more special, Like I played with

640
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: another great person off the field and great player Brian Dawkins.

641
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: But you just knew, yeah, you know, in five years

642
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 5: he's going into the Hall of Fame. So you were

643
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: already celebrating it when he announced his retirement. Andre in

644
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 5: my opinion, should have gone in right away. But because

645
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 5: they didn't, then you hear these rumors, oh he didn't

646
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: have ten touchdowns and the see you know, all this

647
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 5: stupid looking at the stats and not look can get

648
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: the film. So you were just like, Okay, I hope

649
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: they don't screw them over. So you know what I'm saying,

650
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: it's a little bit different feeling if I didn't play

651
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 5: with JJ Watt. Whish I did, because just another great player.

652
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 5: But you're not gonna I don't think anybody's gonna be

653
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 5: high fiving when JJ gets that knock on the door,

654
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: because it's expected, right, right, right, like JJ Broak can

655
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 5: have the door open. Oh yeah, I'm expecting you guys.

656
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 5: I have some finger food for y'all.

657
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: So what took you so long? Yeah, I remember it

658
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: was I can't remember.

659
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: I think it was maybe Peter King who wrote the article,

660
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: but the year that Peyton Manning was going in, so

661
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 4: I guess that was twenty twenty or so, and they

662
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 4: whoever was in the room writing the article, whoever it

663
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 4: was timed, and this is a time where it was

664
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: unlimited amount of time that you had to present. I

665
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 4: guess now johnsonid the other night to us they only

666
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: had five minutes to present.

667
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: This is unlimited.

668
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: So he wrote down all the different times of all

669
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: the players that were being presented. Some I think too

670
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: was like twenty five minutes or something like that. Bob

671
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 4: Kravitz from Indianapolis stood up and said, I'm here to

672
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 4: represent Peyton Manning of the Indianapolis Colts in the Denver Broncos.

673
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: And he sat down like seconds, and that was that.

674
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 4: You know, he's going in. You know, let's move on.

675
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 4: We got time to spend on others. And that was

676
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: kind of what he said afterwards. He's like, we have

677
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: so much time to talk about other guys. We know

678
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: Peyton's getting in. Let's just go I died laughing when

679
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: I saw that. I was like, forty five seconds. You

680
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: know he's going in. To your point, you know he's

681
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: going in. There's nothing to argue about, nothing to discuss.

682
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 3: Let's move on.

683
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: Time I want attached to general about Antonio Gates. I

684
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: couldn't believe he didn't get in. I thought he's a

685
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: first ballot guy when you look at him in receptions

686
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: for tight ends and how dominant he was, how productive

687
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: he was anyway we can get into that way.

688
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: And never played a day of collechball.

689
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, college basketball player.

690
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: I was basketball player Kent State.

691
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: Those are the guys that always not so much frustrate me, Indy,

692
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: but they didn't play.

693
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: Like I'm going through.

694
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: My you know, doing my my draft database, and I'm

695
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 4: looking through bios and things, and I'm I'm seeing guys

696
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 4: that he was a kid of Texas, the names Christian

697
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 4: Jones's tackle.

698
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: He played school football till he was a junior in

699
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: high school.

700
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: And now this dude is like one of the best

701
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 4: tackles in the country. He plays at the University of Texas,

702
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 4: he gets a scholarship, and I'm like, man, I was

703
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: doing all he could to play every single sport.

704
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: It's got to play football to his junior year.

705
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: Those people absolutely not frustrate me, but I'm like amazed,

706
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: And Antonio Gates was like that. He walks right in

707
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: the league and becomes all the greatest tight ends of

708
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 4: all time, never played today at college football.

709
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 5: Oh, it's frustrating like a guy like myself who played

710
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 5: since junior or high right. And even as much as

711
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 5: I like my guy, Chester Pitts, I hate his story

712
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 5: because I've been busting my tail since I was twelve

713
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 5: years old, and then you go to San Diego, stayed

714
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 5: on an academic scholarship, and you think, let me just

715
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: try this football thing. Then you get drafted in the

716
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 5: second or third round, and I was busting my tail

717
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 5: to go in the fifth round.

718
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you can say frustrated, and I agree.

719
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 6: With that second round.

720
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: The grocery bagging story with Kyle Turley and eat from

721
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: Salaam the Obo stuff super Bowl commercial was, I mean,

722
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: just a great story.

723
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Chester now not just good drafted high, but have a

724
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: great career right in.

725
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely, yeah, really really great career during a time.

726
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: And he's one of those players too. And you mentioned

727
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: David Anderson. I think any teammate of Andre can share

728
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: in that glory. We talked about it a bit. I

729
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: mentioned Andre ware with the nineteen eighty nine Heisman season,

730
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: how the teammates feel like it's their heisman as well.

731
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: And Andre loves that that they all feel like it's

732
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: their award, that they were all in it together.

733
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: And I think that's great, all right.

734
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: I promise we'd chop it up about the Texans here

735
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: offseason plans so much to do and d so many

736
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: free agents, and this has got to be really tough

737
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: for Nick Cassario and Damiko Ryans to sift through and

738
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: decide what's important, who's important, how much, how many There's

739
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: so many different questions. You've got Dalton Schultz and Devin

740
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: Singletary and Sheldon Rankins and all these players who meant

741
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: so much to this team in twenty twenty three, and

742
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: some tough decisions are going to be made on both side,

743
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: its team and players alike.

744
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 5: This is a time where it's gonna be tough for

745
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 5: the decision makers, and you absolutely have to check your

746
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 5: emotions at the door because this was such a magical season.

747
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 5: This is why I could never be a GM because

748
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 5: and I won't say any names, but there are guys

749
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 5: who played great, but you're probably gonna try to replace him.

750
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: But because I'm so emotionally vested and appreciative of what

751
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 5: they did this year, I'll be like, oh yeah, Khalil

752
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: Davis five years, fifty million. You know you're my guy,

753
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: and then somebody's gonna have to knock on my offense

754
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 5: be like, hey, we don't have that much money to spend,

755
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: So this is gonna be tough. But Nick Casario, he

756
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 5: just comes off as a guy that understands he's gonna

757
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 5: have to separate emotion from what needs to be done

758
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 5: for the betterment of the team. So it feels like

759
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 5: he's the right guy for this type of offseason. But

760
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna be tough. Like in my opinion, I think, Okay,

761
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 5: you have to get another or a lights out wide receiver,

762
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: and the thought is, well, Nico Collins coming off a

763
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: great season, Yeah he is, but I still need that

764
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 5: Mike Evans, anybody Mike Evans if he's a free agent.

765
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: The linebackers, I thought they played over and beyond what

766
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 5: I expected. But now in the offseason, I'm going after

767
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 5: the best available linebacker, which is tough because you're so

768
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: appreciative of what you saw from that group this season.

769
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 4: When Demko stood up in the at his I guess

770
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 4: that was his final press conference, I think, and was

771
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: asked about this twenty twenty four and beyond there were

772
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: two things that he talked about. Get your thoughts on

773
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 4: each one. One the running game. He didn't say running

774
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: backs or the offensive line. He said the running game,

775
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 4: and they said the second one was a defensive line,

776
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 4: and there are some free agents in both of those categories.

777
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: The draft at the running back position is not tremendous.

778
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,439
Speaker 4: Defensive line, it's pretty it's pretty deep, and you can

779
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 4: you know how the defensive line works. You know, there

780
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 4: can be a guy that's two ninety five. He can

781
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 4: play four or five spots up and up and down

782
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: the defensive line, whereas the running back is probably going to.

783
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: Play running back.

784
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: But those are the two that he kind of pointed out,

785
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 4: the running game and the defensive line. What would be

786
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: your thoughts on, like, where would you kind of break

787
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: those priority wise heading in at twenty twenty four.

788
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 5: You know, to me, the easy answer is the obvious

789
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 5: answer here, and it's the running game, whether it's running

790
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: back and or beefing up your interior blocking to make

791
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 5: sure you're having those gaps between the A gap and

792
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 5: the C gap. But the running game has to improve,

793
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: and in football, you improve by bringing in better players.

794
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 5: So to me, that should be the priority. When I

795
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 5: think of the defensive line, I think they had a

796
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: good season in my opinion. So is the thought to

797
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 5: re sign the guys who are coming and they have

798
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 5: expiring contracts, or to bring in better players. But also

799
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 5: it's not just because you only have so many first

800
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: round picks, you only have second so many second round picks.

801
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 5: That's where my scouting department, that's where I say, Hey,

802
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: Gabe Haul from Baylor. You know what, he had a

803
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 5: great Senior Bowl week. You know, let's see if he's

804
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 5: worthy of a third round pick and not just bring

805
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: him in, but let's coach him up to be that

806
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 5: dominant presence. He has the same body style as a

807
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: Chris Jones. Am I saying he'll be Chris Jones? Absolutely not,

808
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 5: But let's get the most out of them. So it's

809
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 5: not just finding the talent, but to me, it's finding

810
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 5: those guys in the third, fourth, fifth round that outplay

811
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: their draft position.

812
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think I could afforced Buckner. That was That

813
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: was my complicated poll.

814
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot about the Baylor connection there, Kay, Paul.

815
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: That could a plus. See when you're on the field,

816
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: because you.

817
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: Have a family interest in Baylor, you know you've got

818
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: the scouting eyes right, you know, we got to get

819
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: you down there.

820
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 3: So all the college games and the Senior.

821
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: Bowl, all of an Indy kalou helping out the scouting department.

822
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: But that kind of feeling logic can be applied to

823
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: a lot of different positions. Because I look at wide

824
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: receiver and you know, everybody's talking about Mike Evans or

825
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: you know what, can we move up and get Marvin

826
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: Harrison junior? Whatever the desire is by people talking about

827
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: this stuff. And I think, look, let Nick Cook, let

828
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: them go cook, let them figure it out here, because

829
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: they might have some plans that we're not even thinking about.

830
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 4: Here.

831
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: There might be a guy out there third or fourth

832
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: round that could turn into something. Look, Tank Dell turns

833
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: into this amazing player in his rookie year.

834
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: And you know I've seen Tank in the building a lot.

835
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Here looks doctor VanderMeer says, he's coming along just fine.

836
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: So let's see what they can do here in the draft.

837
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: Or maybe there's a free agent we're not thinking about.

838
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: Maybe they need the money in other areas.

839
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: I don't know.

840
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like, does Nico get paid this year?

841
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

842
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: He's going into his last year, so they've got a

843
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: lot to think about. All right, I've got some other

844
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: things to think about. Next segment. I want to get

845
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: into more of this and also see J Stroud. What

846
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: are the expectations for year two? It's Texans All Access

847
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: all right. Final segment here on the program tonight with

848
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: then dy Kalu and Studio.

849
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 6: We're just flying along here. Man.

850
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: We could just sit here for hours and talk about

851
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: all the Texan stuff and all the stuff around the league.

852
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: And I could get real estate advice from ND. Investment advice.

853
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 1: That would be good too, but that's probably for another

854
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: show another day.

855
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 6: ND. Anyway, how's business going?

856
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 3: Tell us?

857
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: You know they say if you're busy, that's a good thing.

858
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 2: We're very busy.

859
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: Busy is good. I like it, very nice. Tell me CJ. Stroud, gentlemen,

860
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: year two.

861
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 6: Here he is.

862
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: He's having the great offseason, offensive Rookie of the year

863
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: being celebrated n D for a young player. Everybody's got

864
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: to improve. Everybody's got their things that their list there

865
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: to do list on things they want to get better at.

866
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: What are you thinking here for CJ. Stroud and how

867
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 3: he's going to approach it.

868
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: It seems like he's got the right attitude, the right

869
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: mindset going into his so called sophomore season in the league.

870
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 5: I'm going to answer your question with a question to y'all,

871
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 5: is it bad that I just want him to be

872
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 5: the same guy he was.

873
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 6: This passion No, that would be a hell of a player.

874
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 5: But you know, and I don't keep my expectations low

875
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 5: because I think he'll be great. But I've seen, being

876
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: a former Philadelphia Eagle, the Carson Wentz where one year is, oh,

877
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 5: he's an MVP, and then four years down the line,

878
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: we're wondering, hey, John, is he still in the league?

879
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 5: You know, I've seen the Deshaun Watson where oh, he's

880
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 5: the face of the franchise to where he's an untouchable.

881
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: So if CJ.

882
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 5: Stroud on and off the field could be the same

883
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 5: guy he was this year and you continue to build

884
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 5: around him, what else could you ask for?

885
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: You know? And that's not obviously you want to improve

886
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: every year.

887
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 5: If you're not improving, then it's time to stop all

888
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: those cliches. But give me the same guy had this

889
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 5: year consistently for the next eight, nine, ten years, and

890
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: the Texans are going to be fine.

891
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: I think what's been fascinating and Mark and I've talked

892
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 4: about this nd is the fact that every time that

893
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: CJ did something for the first time, the second time

894
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,280
Speaker 4: was exponentially better. First week go Thas, second week go Thas,

895
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: first day of training camp, first week of training camp,

896
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: second week of training camp, first preseason game, second preseason game,

897
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: first game of the year, second game.

898
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Of the year.

899
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: I kind of feel like if we follow that season

900
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: one to season two that he will make some of

901
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 4: those he will make some of those adjustments. Going back

902
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: to our conversation about free agents, when you have free

903
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 4: agents and you know this team has had a significant

904
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,479
Speaker 4: number of them, but the ones that chose to come here,

905
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: they weren't coming here because of CJ.

906
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: Stroud.

907
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 4: That hadn't even taken place yet. But now you've got

908
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: free agents that are out there. Are they looking at

909
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: this as a possible destination because CJ is here?

910
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: Is that something that free agents now?

911
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 4: I know they want the bag first and foremost, and

912
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: that pretty much takes precedence at all times, But when

913
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 4: they think about, Okay, I can get the bag and

914
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 4: I can play with CJ. Stroud, or I get the bag,

915
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: I could go out to the Los Angeles. I can

916
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: live in Los Angeles. That's where I want to be.

917
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: Does that matter for free agents? Would c J. Stroud?

918
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 4: Does CJ Stroud kind of move the meter for on

919
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: Mike Evans potentially or a wide receiver that's looking to

920
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: leave looking for a new contract. Does that matter to

921
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: not even wide receivers defensive lineman. Does it matter to them?

922
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: Knowing he's here, I got a chance.

923
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: To win, especially because you acknowledge about getting the bag,

924
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 5: about getting paid, because that's first and foremost, whether we

925
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 5: like it or not. But the thought of whether you're

926
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 5: a defensive lineman, offensive lineman, wide receiver, the thought of,

927
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 5: oh that's the leader of the team. You know, I

928
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 5: get the money and I'm playing with this CJ. Stroud,

929
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: I'm playing for Demico Ryans. I have a chance, like

930
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 5: now the Houston Texas in just one year, you could

931
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 5: convince yourself as a free agent that you're going somewhere

932
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 5: that has a chance to be a contender where this

933
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: year got Let's be real, I mean guys were coming

934
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 5: here to prove themselves and hopefully get longer contracts somewhere else.

935
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 5: Now you're coming thinking I can be the piece that

936
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 5: this team's missing to truly be a contender.

937
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: And it's not just Stroud obviously that did that. It's

938
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: everything right and playing for Demico Ryans and the culture

939
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: and all that means something right.

940
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 5: Playing for Demiko, the culture that he's setting, the respect

941
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: that he has around the league. From the ownership, I mean,

942
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: you got the freaking owner throwing up the h with

943
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 5: bum b and you know, like that's fun. Like if

944
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: I'm a young player and I'm seeing the owner of

945
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 5: the Houston Texans is a guy that's embracing the culture

946
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: of this generation of the youngsters, then that's also somebody

947
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind playing for, so all the way from

948
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: the top. If if I was a free agent right

949
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: now and I had my pick, I'm definitely looking at

950
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 5: Houston and thinking it's going to be tough for another

951
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 5: organization to pull me away if the money is the

952
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 5: same to pull me away from the Texans.

953
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: The money is the same, then you know, to worry

954
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 3: about stated income tax.

955
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask yeah that because you're a businessman

956
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: and you're well aware of that, how much awareness is

957
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: there of that kind of thing? Florida, Texas States, what

958
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Nevada too? Maybe, but there's no NFL team. Well, actually

959
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: there is an NFL team. Now, boy, I keep forgetting

960
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: its hard.

961
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 3: I just think of Vegas.

962
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 4: It's a great job of the Super Bowl. At least

963
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: it seemed that way. I haven't heard any like Indianapolis. Yeah, yeah,

964
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 4: don't want you gotta bring up Indianapolis.

965
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: Vegas.

966
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: Same thing. Indianapolis the Vegas of the Midwest. Indianapolis is

967
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: the Vegas of Indiana. I mean, that's about as close

968
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: as you're gonna get anyway. What about the no state

969
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: income tax aspect of luring free agents? D how attractive?

970
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 5: It's attractive, But it also depends on who you're talking to.

971
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: And you know, you have some guys, some players who

972
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 5: are all about branding themselves. So Los Angeles, New York

973
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: may be more desirable, and they're not thinking about the taxes.

974
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 5: And let's be real. If you're making a million, well, look,

975
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 5: today's a and age. Let me be a little more realistic.

976
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 5: If you're making five to ten million a year as

977
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: a youngster, you're not really thinking about the taxes because

978
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 5: you're going to live the same lifestyle. I'm not saying

979
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 5: that smart, but that's just the reality of it.

980
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.

981
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 2: It is.

982
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 5: And then you have some guys that I know, some

983
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 5: current players, they would just love to live in LA

984
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: and be able to afford LA. John and I were

985
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: talking off Mike about how crazy the real estate is

986
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 5: in LA and how unaffordable it is.

987
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: But if you could afford it, like that's intriguing to

988
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: some players.

989
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 5: Sure, I'm not even a party guy, but if I

990
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 5: had the chance to live in LA for four or

991
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 5: five years making five six seven million dollars, I'm not

992
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 5: thinking about the taxes. I'm just gonna quote unquote save

993
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: everything else. So great question. But I just feel like

994
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 5: it's the individual player. I don't know Larmye Tuensel, but

995
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 5: from everything I've heard and read, he's a sharp business mind.

996
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 5: He's negotiating his own deals. He doesn't have an agent,

997
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: he's probably someone who's thinking about that. But then if

998
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 5: you have a guy like Odell Beckham, you know, someone

999
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 5: who really wants to be in the spotlight, you know,

1000
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 5: he's probably gonna put a New York LA over the Houston, Texas.

1001
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: Okay, in Cleveland didn't go so well, Yeah, yeah, maybe

1002
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 4: you learn his lessons from there.

1003
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: He's going to go to any straight to LA after that.

1004
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 6: So he could do a whole show on him.

1005
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Really, Oh god, yes, we'll do shows on the schedule,

1006
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: all right, shows, shows are going to do this offseason

1007
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: schedule shows because I could talk about the schedule time games.

1008
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: How many primetime games? Oh?

1009
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: Did you see my article at Houston Texans dot com

1010
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 3: I predicted the primetime games?

1011
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: Oh?

1012
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: You know, I told me this who I was on

1013
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 4: in Buffalo with sal My Buddy Salat Salak Paco. He

1014
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 4: asked me all these yeah, I read with Mark wrote

1015
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: about primetime games. He's like, do you think that Texans

1016
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: Bills is going to be a primetime game? And I said,

1017
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 4: I think there's a good chance. To me, is that

1018
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: what I said? I don't know what you said, I

1019
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: know what I said. I can't even remember what I said.

1020
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: No, I said three plus a flex. Later on, we'll

1021
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: get a flex, and we're gonna get a Thursday night.

1022
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna get all three. We're gonna get a Thursday night,

1023
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: a Monday night, and a Sunday night. And I'm thinking

1024
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: Sunday night in Dallas. I know everybody predicts Thanksgiving. Guess what,

1025
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: everybody who goes to Dallas every year predicts Thanksgiving because

1026
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: they kind of want Thanksgiving or something right. Yeah, that

1027
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: would be awesome though, to be up there for Thanksgiving,

1028
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: I gotta admit, because we could fly back and still

1029
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: have Turkey Days oaight and celebrate a victory over those guys.

1030
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 3: So while we're at.

1031
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 4: It, Yea Sean put out a poll and he put

1032
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 4: options what would you rather have Thanksgiving against Dallas, London

1033
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 4: against the Vikings, London against the Jags? And I can't

1034
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: remember there was a fourth when I can't remember that.

1035
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: But if you had to take any of those three,

1036
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 4: which one would you take in d First?

1037
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 5: I hate London games, okay, so but I think Texans

1038
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 5: Cowboys on things give it.

1039
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go with that. I loved going to London.

1040
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 6: We talked about this. I didn't like the ideas beforehand.

1041
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 3: That's a groot.

1042
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 6: It's really a grinder so much.

1043
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Rather, let's go to Dallas and play the Cowboys on

1044
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: thanks Givving.

1045
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 5: Like the ugly American real quick. The reason I say

1046
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 5: that I have a lot of Chile from London. Yeah,

1047
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: and you know a lot of Nigerians end up going

1048
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 5: to London, and I asked them, like, oh a, y'all

1049
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 5: excited about the NFL games that come, and they're like,

1050
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 5: we know.

1051
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: They just got a.

1052
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 6: Shrug even though you played the league.

1053
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: All right, thanks a lot for being here and d

1054
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: that's it for the show tomorrow and I plenty to

1055
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: talk about Draft Wednesdays, get going, among other things. McLean

1056
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: on third, Andre Johnson on the show this week, let's rock,

1057
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: have a great night and don't forget up. Next, it's Patrick,

1058
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: It's Sean, it's fun your evening entertainment awaits Go Texans.