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Speaker 1: Oh so the Earl is probably what the original article

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Okay, I'm just asking maybe the definition

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Speaker 3: And it may not matter.

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Speaker 2: Most of the Kazi's illicit activities would be considered sex

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Speaker 1: Look back at racism?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Better?

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Speaker 4: So back then when the Negroes were slaved and we

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Speaker 1: Oh, how I wished for the days.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: Well, me, the lady that is writing this article, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I'd just like to see just sat there and was like, yep,

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Speaker 1: Days were the days?

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Speaker 5: That's wrong with you?

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Speaker 2: You're like, yep, back in my days, I do remember

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Speaker 1: Know, I remember when women didn't have no right when.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was nothing you could do about it, you.

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Speaker 2: Kids in your new fangle rape if that's what you

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't consent. Look at me? Whooped it? Dude?

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Speaker 3: You just you're my friend? Rape? Oh?

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Speaker 2: You know what we call date rape? Back in my day,

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Speaker 3: Letting women define rape for themselves? Eh mm hmm. Only

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Speaker 2: You know how I knew when I was raped. When

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a Tuesday right.

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Speaker 2: I remember all the high pressure seductions that led to

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Speaker 3: That's what we used to call it, high pressure employment.

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Speaker 3: Oh the eighteen for this, what a time, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: So if a woman, and this was mainly about women,

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Speaker 3: And this happens on the internet a lot.

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Speaker 2: This happened in that Facebook thread about Caitlyn Jenner on

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Speaker 3: I fucking hate people that goal.

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Speaker 2: Well, if it wasn't for the facts, I'm gonna just

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Speaker 3: But we know he gave it to him unknowingly.

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Speaker 2: We know by the account of forty something women that

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Speaker 2: Why are you allowed to go and write an entire

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been raped.

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Speaker 2: But those are the things that did not happen, right,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that has changed falling California's lead. New York

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Speaker 2: the so called enough is Enough Law to combat sexual

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Speaker 2: can you stop raping on college campuses?

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Speaker 3: They are like, what is a rape? I mean, who

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Speaker 2: Among other things, the measure of states that anyone on

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, I don't think you understood. That has

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Speaker 1: And the thing is men, majority of men commit rape

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Speaker 4: And I know there's other kinds of sexual assaults, you rapes,

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00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: but and just your standard rape, which is a man

446
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: assulting a woman. I don't understand why a man, for

447
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 4: his own safety would be like.

448
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: Oh, you ain't in your right mind.

449
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: I don't want to fuck you, you know, I don't want

450
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 4: to be accused of some shit right for.

451
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: Nothing else for his own presation, right.

452
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: The President weighed in on Kazi gate, saying, if you

453
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: give a woman or a man for that matter, without

454
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: his or her knowledge, drug and then have sex with

455
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: that person without consent, that's rape, he said. After being

456
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: asked if Kazi presidential metal freedom of water in twenty

457
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: twelve or in two thousand and two could be stripped

458
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: from him, he said there was no president president for

459
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 2: a revocate the medal, but he said, and I think

460
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: this country, any civilized country, should have no talents for rape.

461
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 5: But what is rape?

462
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: Obama implied that Kaji gave drugs to women without the

463
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 2: recipient's knowledge, which has not been proven. Kazi has never

464
00:23:55,440 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: been charged of the crime and denies any wrongdoing. Kazi's

465
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: wife for fifty one years and business manager, Camille seventy one,

466
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 2: has doubled down on her defense of her.

467
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: Man and product.

468
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: According to a report in the Post by journalist Stacy Brown,

469
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: this happened after judge released the transcript of two thousand

470
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: and five deposition and an now settled civil civil sexual

471
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: assault case, and at the comedian admitted that he obtained

472
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: prescriptions for now the now band sedatives Kuwelud, intending to

473
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: give the drug the women.

474
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: With whom he wanted to have sex.

475
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 2: He copped to giving Quelus to one ninety year old

476
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: woman he betted, but assist that she knew what she

477
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 2: was taking.

478
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 3: He said the sex is consentual.

479
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 2: Asking the deposition he ever drug women without the knowledge,

480
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: Kazi's lawyer objected to the question.

481
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 3: He never answered, well, then he must not have did it.

482
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 2: Camille still doesn't believe that Bill provided drugs and had

483
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: sex with women without the consent. She's well aware of

484
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: the cheating, but she doesn't believe that her husbands a

485
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: rapist or Kazi. Feila employee Joe Brown. Everyone took kulous

486
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 2: in the seventies. He didn't show up, heal anyone stroke,

487
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: said Sidney Kine, a former stripper and comedian who earns

488
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: tips from tourists who take her picture and Tom Square

489
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: as a naked cowgirl told me. Kane says she had

490
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: a consentual quickie with cars in Los Angeles in the

491
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies or early eighties when she was on a

492
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 2: quelu and eagerly swallowed another half pill he gave her.

493
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: He was a handsome man to start, he was just

494
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: a doll, said Kane, who plays guitar wearing a bikini bottom,

495
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: cowboy hat and boots, plus red and white and blue

496
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: pasty's in the shape of marijuana leaves on her nipples.

497
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 3: As far as an concerned, he's the victim.

498
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 6: Here.

499
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

500
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: Why is her work good in this article? But the

501
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: testimony of forty women wouldn't be like this. One woman

502
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: is like up, Well, she said it guys, so obviously

503
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: he didn't do anything. So she basically said, it depends

504
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: on how you define sexual assault.

505
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: Why we wanting to redefine these definitions?

506
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 2: Yep, So let's see and then more stuff came out

507
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: from his deposition.

508
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: Uh, the New York Times got ahold of it.

509
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: So they was fighting so hard about let be public embarrassing.

510
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is public, you know apparently.

511
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Uh even you know, even if would you took the

512
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: rape out of it, I think what a lot of

513
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: people thought was going on. No matter, what was definitely

514
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: going on. He was seducing young women who were needed

515
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: mentoring or helping their career and by promising them mentorship

516
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 2: and shit.

517
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Right, and didn't give him ship.

518
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was not about seducing a young model by

519
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 2: showing interest in her cancer. He promised other women his

520
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: mentorship and career adrights before pushing them for sex acts.

521
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 2: He tried to use financial slight of hand to keep

522
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: his wife from finding out about his cereal philandering. He

523
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: admitted to all of this and more over four.

524
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: Days of intense questioning ten years ago in the Philadelphia

525
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 3: hotel where he defended himself in a deposition for a

526
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: lawsuit fouled by a young woman who accused him of

527
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: drugging and molesting her.

528
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Even as mister Kazi deny he was a sexual predator

529
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: who assaulted many women, He presented himself in the deposition

530
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: as an unapologetic cavalit playboy, someone who used a combination

531
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: of fame, parent concern and powerful sedatives and a calculated

532
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: pursuit of young women, a profile at odds with the

533
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: popular image he so long enjoyed that of a father

534
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: figure at a public moralist. In a deposition with mister

535
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: Kazi has for years managed to keep private, but was

536
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: obtained by The New York Times. The entertainer comes across

537
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: as alternatively annoyed, mocking and occasionally charming, and sometimes both

538
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: for even bla Blavely or Bliffley. Describing sexual encounters in

539
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: graphic detail, he talked of the nineteen year old.

540
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: Aspiring mindy he can remember because they can't. M h.

541
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: He's talked to the nineteen year old aspiring model who

542
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: sent him her poem and ended up on his sofa,

543
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: where mister Kazi said she pleasured him with lotion. He

544
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: spoke with the casual disregard that end in a relationship

545
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: with another model so he could pursue other women moving on,

546
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: he said. He suggested he was skilled in picking up

547
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 2: nonverbal cues that signal on women's consent. Woman's consent, I

548
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: think I'm pretty decent reader of people in their emotions,

549
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 2: in these romantic sexual things, whatever you want to call him,

550
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: he said. Through it all, his manner was largely one

551
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: of casual indifference. At one point in the first day

552
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: of questioning, Delores R. Treanni, the lawyer for the Planet

553
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: in the case Andrea Constant, a young woman who worked

554
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: at Temple University as a basketball manager, seems struck by

555
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: mister Cosey's jocular manner. I think you're making light of

556
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: a very serious situation, to which mister Kazi replied that

557
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: may very well be interesting. Mister Kaz's deposition grew this

558
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: month when a federal judge untiled the sixty two page

559
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: memorandum memorandum, which had been settled in two thousand and six.

560
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: The memorandum contained excerpts from the deposition, including mister kazik

561
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: acknowledgment that he had obtained Quelus as part of his

562
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: efforts to have sex with women. The parties have been

563
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 2: prohibited from releasing the memorandum because of the confidentiality clause

564
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: that was part of the settlement agreement, but the deposition

565
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: itself was never sealed. This month, Miss Constance's lawyer asked

566
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: the court to lift the confidentiality clause so her client

567
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: would be free to release the nearly one thousand page

568
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: deposition transcript. The Times Ladder learned that the transcript was

569
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: already publicly available through a court reporting service.

570
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

571
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 3: Uh, mister Kazi has never been charged with the crime.

572
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: You know, we already know that. There's civil claims. Three

573
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: suits were women of civil claims against them. We already

574
00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: know that. So yeah, we'll see, oh something else. Oh.

575
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: He first spotted her at Temple University in the early

576
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: two thousand. Mister Cozzi said he felt romantic interest and

577
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: immediately said she's looking good.

578
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: And began a relationship that led, in his telling to

579
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: Dinners and More.

580
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: Asked how he would or mister Cozzi had been who

581
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: have been married since nineteen sixty four, responded inviting her

582
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: to my house, talking to her about personal situations, dealing

583
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 2: with her life growth, education. He painted his relationship with

584
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: Miss consin is one of the mentor and mentee, casting

585
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: himself in the role of an experienced god, offered her

586
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 2: the benefit of his contact, fame, and experience. At times,

587
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: he described becoming frustrated at the Miss Constant failed to

588
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: follow his advice, such as when he wanted her to

589
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: pursue her interest in sports broadcasting by calling someone and

590
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: she did not.

591
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: Here's a mentor, Bill Cozi, who was in the business.

592
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: Bill Cozzi, who happens to know something about what to

593
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: do with Andre is not picking up on it, he said.

594
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Miss Constant ultimately went to the police to complain to

595
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: mister Cosey's behavior, but in his telling, his seduction was

596
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: one of persistence and patience. Early on in the courtship,

597
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: he raised an intimate mill along with her his Pennsylvania home,

598
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: complete with kanyak, dim lights and a fire.

599
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: He said.

600
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: At one point he led her to his back porch,

601
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: out of sight from his chef. I take her hair,

602
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: pull it back. I have her face like this, he says.

603
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking to her, and I talked to her about relaxing,

604
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: being strong, and I said to her come in, meaning

605
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: her body. But the two remain intes the part He

606
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: said he did not try to kiss her because he

607
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: did not siny she wanted him to. Nevertheless, at the

608
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: next dinner, he said they had what he described as

609
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: a sexual moment, short of intercourse.

610
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: He described her afterwards as having a glow a spouting

611
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: a spouting on his Phi.

612
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: Philosophy about sex, mister Cosey said he tended to refrain

613
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: from intercourse because he did not want women to fall

614
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: in love with him. To him, he said, the act

615
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: of sexual intercourse is something that I feel the woman

616
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: wants to come to more of a romance and more

617
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: of a feeling, not love. But it's deeper than a

618
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: playful sensation situation. As as far as he and Wisconsin whining,

619
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 2: he said, they were playing sex. We're playing, petty, we're

620
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: playing Was he.

621
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: In love with her?

622
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 4: No?

623
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: At the association endor for a few years till one

624
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: night at Pennsylvania home when miss Constant said, mister Cosey

625
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: druggs and molested her.

626
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, consentual sex with him, Like like, this is not

627
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: something he had.

628
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like he likes that.

629
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: He likes that, Yeah, a lot of That's why I

630
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: think a lot of people.

631
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: That defend him, that's why they can't understand if they

632
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: in their mind like, well, he wouldn't have to do that,

633
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: so well, what are y'all talking about?

634
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 3: It's like that's his Yeah, he like, yeah, that's that's his.

635
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: That's his ship like, I don't know what to tell you.

636
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 3: I would.

637
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't understand it either, I think you know, I don't.

638
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: I can't relate to want to do that to somebody either.

639
00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: But that's that's his fucking pleasure anyway. Regularly news all

640
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff has happening here as well. Donald Trump

641
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: has questioned John McCain's heroism. He said, McCain, he's not

642
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: a war hero. He's a war hero because he was captured.

643
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: I like people that weren't captured.

644
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: What that's then it makes no sense.

645
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: So uh, he said he's a war hero because he

646
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: was captured.

647
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 3: I like people weren't captured. Perhaps he's a war hero.

648
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, if you're president, you're gonna

649
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: be president of all the troops, and some troops might

650
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: get captured, and.

651
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: You don't consider I'm a hero.

652
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, right for this country?

653
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: Right?

654
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm okay, mm hmmm. Uh huh.

655
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: And people that are veterans and currently individually they vote

656
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 4: to right, don't they don't? Do?

657
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: People vote do somehow dude still leading? But yeah, they vote.

658
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I just wanted to be sure that they

659
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: vote too.

660
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: Okay, But you know, he lost, so I never liked

661
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: him as much after that because I don't like losers.

662
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: But Frank, Frank, let me.

663
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 6: Get to it.

664
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Speaker 3: He's not a war hero.

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Speaker 7: He's a he's a war hero because he was captured.

666
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 3: I like people that weren't captured. Okay, I hate to

667
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: tell you he's a war hero because he was captured. Okay,

668
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: you can have and I believe perhaps he's a war hero.

669
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 8: But right now he.

670
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Said some very bad things about a lot of people.

671
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: So what I said, there's no fucking way we're gonna

672
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: let this guy to be president.

673
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: No, because the thing about it is, like I'm not

674
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: talking to find it right now. The dumbasses are voting

675
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: right now.

676
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: But when it's time to like narrow it down and

677
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 4: y'all start going up with debates and people start asking

678
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: real questions and more of the middle to middle people start,

679
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: you know, deciding where their votes go.

680
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: There's no way he makes it.

681
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Out like.

682
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: It's just one of the things where if he make

683
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: it out, it's one of the things you go, what

684
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: the fuck is wrong with our motherfucking country?

685
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing. See what else is happening?

686
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 6: Uh?

687
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

688
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: Apparently rapper young Thug who uh, you know, was accused

689
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 2: of threatening to shoot up mall security the other day

690
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: and arrested. Well, part of the issue with that arrest

691
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: is that he is accused of a conspiracy to kill

692
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Lil Wayne.

693
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: Oh mm hmm.

694
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 3: Apparently indictments. I mean, damn.

695
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I know, his rap you know, kind of

696
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: fell off the past few years, but ship it ain't

697
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: worth killing him.

698
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: Apparently there's an indictment from June that alleges Williams and

699
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: another rapper named Brian Williams aka Birdman.

700
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: Oh the real Birdman, Birdman Oh oh.

701
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: So burband Lou Wayne didn't know.

702
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: They've been falling out about their kids, Nikki Minaj and

703
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: Drake talking about that that bird Man.

704
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Ever since they kissed, they ain't been the same.

705
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: It ain't never been the same.

706
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

707
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: They were involved in a Rico conspiracy to kill Lil

708
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: Wayne when his tour bus was shot up in April.

709
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: Wow, m h shots fired.

710
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody don't want to get about that money.

711
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: Which.

712
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's scary as fuck, right, y'all was

713
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna kill that nigga because.

714
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: He wanted the leader label?

715
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Is it that sious?

716
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: I mean that's some like diabolic or puff daddy big shit.

717
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: Right. That's some death ro shit, ain't it?

718
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: Mm hmm killing killing niggas?

719
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: Right? Oh well, legally doing some shit today, you know,

720
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: got the right to do if they don't want to

721
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: be there. No more.

722
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: Baller Alert had the inside school.

723
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna be good up.

724
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 3: Until the tour bus shooting. I consider the agreements between

725
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: Little Wayne and burr Man to be bad business. It

726
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 3: wasn't obligatory. I schooled your girl.

727
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: You said I couldn't wrap you, not as hard as

728
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: you claim. Allegations that started infamous rap beasts. It appeared

729
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: to be the standard. We have contracts and you aren't

730
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: fulfilling your obligations. Complaints that many proprietors of business endures.

731
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: Like many the legal system was set up to handle

732
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: the complaint. However, the seventeen page, thirty thirty count indictment

733
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: alleged otherwise. According to the indictment, oh great, scroll to

734
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: the bottle.

735
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: Oh get back to the top. Okay, so now we're

736
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 3: got too far. Great, yeah, shout out the ball alert

737
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: making me look bad on the air. Okay.

738
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: So, according to the indictment, Jimmy Carlton Winfrey is facing

739
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: the laundry list of his charges, including three counts of rico,

740
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: multiple counts of violation of Street Gang Terrorism and Prevention Act,

741
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: and aggravated assault.

742
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: Among other charges of rico. Rico is racketeering. That's like

743
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: that conspiracy to.

744
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Murder somebody, like multiple parties and there's a plan and

745
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: a plot.

746
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: To do something.

747
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 4: I was about to say, I didn't know it was

748
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: a crime called ricos that got damn Yeah.

749
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: The indictment alleges that Wayne's to a bus shooting wasn't random.

750
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: Allegedly bird Man and Young Thug were involved to some extent.

751
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: The indictment does doesn't explicitly state that the aforementioned gave

752
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 2: the orders to Winfrey to carry out, but several notations

753
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: are a legend of Winfrey place calls the phones owned

754
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: by Birdman and Young Thug leading up to and after

755
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: the shooting.

756
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh you go to jail dogs.

757
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: According to the document, Winfrey left the vault in twenty

758
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: fifteen in a white Camaro, I mean in a twenty

759
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: fifteen white Camaro, and did in fact show up at

760
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: the compound where Wayne had a performance on April twenty six,

761
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, Atlanta police sought ussault rifle in an effort.

762
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 3: To prevent the incident.

763
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: APD escorted Wayne and his uthoorage away from the compound.

764
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: Winfrey fled the scene at the APD attempted to detain him.

765
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: Police detail escorted Wayne's two buses on two eighty five,

766
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: where the Lieutenant Sir the white Chevrolet Camaro traveling at

767
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 2: a high rate of speed in the direction of the

768
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: tour buses. It would be after the discontinuation of the

769
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: APD's escort said.

770
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: Camaro would pull.

771
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: The Camaro would pull beside the buses and pump them

772
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: full of bullets. When when the tour bus was fire,

773
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: meet that APD in the Mandarin Oriental Hotel. It is

774
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: alleged that Whiffrey's still on the phone owned by bird Man,

775
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: drove to the Mandarin Oriental Hotel. Winfrey would later hide

776
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: the Camaro at a religious house, only for it to

777
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: be discovered later by police.

778
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Man, this is such a nigga crime. You'd be less accurate.

779
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: You shot up a bus with a gun from a

780
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: moving car, like no way you can know if you

781
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 2: would kill that dude. Then Diaven mentions the halftime video

782
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: and Young Thug statement of pulling up in a little

783
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: up to Little Wody.

784
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: At popping him in the noggin? Why is this of importance?

785
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: According to that David Wayne was referenced as Little Wody

786
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: earlier on in his career. Also, if you know New

787
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: Orleans culture, wody is a term using reference to people.

788
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: But by the fault the reference in Young Thug's bars,

789
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: Leeds want to believe that he was referring to Wayne,

790
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: as it was once a nickname of some sort for Wayne,

791
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 2: and also refers to Wayne's origin.

792
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: Who is Winfrey?

793
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: Apparently he is a member of the wires l sector

794
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 2: of Bloods in the area Atlanta of Atlanta, and he

795
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 2: also appears in the halftime video.

796
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 3: Damn oh uh so Yeah, that's crazy. That is nuts.

797
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I understand, you know, people saying,

798
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: you know, the Wayne's music ain't good, no mold he

799
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 4: come out there with goddamn riper con licking zone. But shit,

800
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: he don't deserve this.

801
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, kill little Wayne, right, it ain't that serious, dog man.

802
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: I know he's a shit toilet, but I ain't no

803
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: need to do him like this right. Also, that is

804
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: the sloppiest assassination plot of all time.

805
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: Right, And you know what, I would hate to be

806
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: the family member that he parked that vehicle at, especially

807
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 4: if you didn't know a goddamn thing about it and

808
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: the police pull up talk about, oh you wanted to

809
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: rest for what?

810
00:41:58,239 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: For a vehicle? What vehicle?

811
00:41:59,680 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: That?

812
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 4: What?

813
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: There?

814
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: I ain't no shit about that vehicle.

815
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: A video has emerged of Queen Elizabeth II giving the

816
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: Nazi salute as a child.

817
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 3: This from nineteen thirty three or nineteen thirty four.

818
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: How old is that woman?

819
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Her and her mama could be seen in the video

820
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: giving the Nazi salute and the statement Buckingham Palace said

821
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: that it was disappointed that the felma been published and

822
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: raised questions over how it had been obtained at all.

823
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: They forget the internet, man, somebody somebody had that photo

824
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: and held on to that shit for years.

825
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Their defense wasn't that she didn't do it?

826
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, it's like why lie ain't the

827
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: reason in line.

828
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: About it's her?

829
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: But it was, you know how y'all get it? Apparently

830
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: it came from a family archive. We are not using

831
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: it to suggest any impropriety on behalf of them. The

832
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: Sun would is the paper that got it. Uh, the

833
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: editor stig Able told the BBC, referring to the Queen,

834
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: the child at the time, and her mother, who is

835
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: also seen to give us a little But it's an

836
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: important and interesting issue. The extent to which British ari aristocracy,

837
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 2: notably Edward the Eighth in this case in the ninth

838
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties, were sympathetic towards fascism. Uh, that

839
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: must be a matter of national and public interest to discuss.

840
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: And I think this video, in this footage animates that

841
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: very quickly.

842
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: He said.

843
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: I think this is a piece of social history, one

844
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: of the most significant events in our country's history, the

845
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: Second World War, the rides of Nazism, one of the

846
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: most pernicious movements in human history.

847
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: And I think one is entitled to have a look

848
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: at some of the background to it.

849
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: Man, what about the people go, yeah, dog, I'm here

850
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: in Uh yeah, I understand you MC queen and shit,

851
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 4: but uh you don't you know, I'm not cool with

852
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: that dog yep?

853
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

854
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: What about the people that look at that goal that.

855
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: Shit is racist?

856
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: M hmm, Okay, I just wanted to be sure.

857
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: I mean, what can you do I mean, too much

858
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: you can do about it, but at least you can go, oh, okay,

859
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: shit makes sense.

860
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: Now let's see what else.

861
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: Oh, Tan of Hosey Coats came out with his book

862
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: Between the World and Me, and everybody's critiquing it and

863
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: reading it.

864
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: I just read the first chapter this morning.

865
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Which is like a letter to his son who's like

866
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: fourteen years old, and it's kind of written in the

867
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: same style as James Baldwin The Fire Next Time. Pretty

868
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: compelling read, and of course he's got critics all around.

869
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: Cornell West is shitting on the book because apparently it

870
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 2: doesn't talk enough shit about Obama.

871
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: I could not make this up.

872
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Tony Morrison thinks, you know, this is a really good book,

873
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: and she said, like, you know, it kind of puts

874
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: him in the same lane as you know, the success

875
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 2: of the James Baldwin in a way, and which is

876
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: you know, brought on its own criticism because that's big

877
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: words people coming from her right, and people are looking

878
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: at it like how you gonna you know, like how

879
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 2: you gonna say that? And then of course you know

880
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: there's a white colonist that wrote an article about reading this.

881
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: Why white and why it's so hard and difficult, and

882
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: why he doesn't like it and basically prefers the code

883
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: himself and the sentimentality of nostalgia what the real America

884
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: is instead of what Tyner House the coach kind of

885
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: reveals it to be.

886
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 3: From his perspective and his upbringing.

887
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 4: The root.

888
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 2: There was a piece where it was like his narrative

889
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: doesn't include black women enough, which I you know, it's

890
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: not like I expected that much in a personal story

891
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 2: from him to his son.

892
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 3: But we'll see where it goes. I'm only done with

893
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 3: the first chapter.

894
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: I thought he had plenty of women quote unquote characters,

895
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, people in his life that he wrote about

896
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: in there.

897
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 3: But I just don't know that any man.

898
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: Is gonna write a satisfactory personal story that also.

899
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: It will satisfactorily cover the voices of black women in

900
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: his life. Right.

901
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,439
Speaker 4: And then you have some black women that I don't

902
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 4: care if it's not coming from them. They I'm not jishu,

903
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 4: it's not coming from them or for somebody looks like them,

904
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 4: like a lot of people do in these groups.

905
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: They're like fuck you.

906
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of you know, black women that

907
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 4: I like, like that, like you know, if you talk

908
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 4: about something and you and we talked about this, it's

909
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: one of those things, but you can't have a vote.

910
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 4: Way if this is not his perspective and he talks

911
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 4: about it and it's fucked up, you're gonna be mad.

912
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

913
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: Then if he talks about it and he don't talk

914
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: about it at all, you're gonna be mad. So it's

915
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 4: just one of those things where you just have a

916
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 4: demographic of black women, they just gonna be mad no

917
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 4: matter what you do. They just cannot be satisfied. And

918
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: it's just one of those things where there's so.

919
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: Much hurt right and there's such a riff between black

920
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: women and black men at this point that well meaning

921
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: or not, it doesn't I don't think it really matters.

922
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: Like the issue I had with some of the critique

923
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: around it is more that I feel like, sometimes, because

924
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: of what's been done to us as a race, we

925
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:52,959
Speaker 2: put ourselves in this box where whoever quote unquote gets

926
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: on has to put.

927
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 3: On for everybody, and I don't think I don't think

928
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 3: that's possible.

929
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: You know, I just don't like some because blackness is

930
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: such an experience that it's so varied. Someone will always

931
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 2: be left out, and you know, if it's a male

932
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 2: then you know, and it wasn't just women.

933
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: I saw somebody saying, hey, what about the black trans experience.

934
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: You don't even really talk about that in your book,

935
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 2: and it's like, to to the one extent, I agree

936
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 2: that you know the that that maybe that perspective's not

937
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 2: in there enough. But to the other extent, I don't

938
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: know that he's the guy to talk about that, right,

939
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: And I don't know that I would want that person

940
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: to talk about that.

941
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 3: I will. The problem is always with this ship is

942
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 3: we need a dearth of black voices. We need a

943
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: dearth of voices.

944
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: We just we like it's kind of like expecting Kevin

945
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: Hart to do Hannibal Burd's material, Dave Chappelle material, and

946
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Donald Glover material at the same time,

947
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 2: where it's like.

948
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 3: That's that that that's now it's just unfair to him.

949
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: Or when people say, well, this Tyler Perry movie is

950
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: basically still a Tyler Perry movie, I don't like it,

951
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: and you're like, right, I get it, but you do

952
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: realize Tyler Perry, like when they go, Whyon, Tyler Perry

953
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: just give his money to someone else to let them

954
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 2: make a movie because it's his money and it's his platform.

955
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: Why would anyone do that? Correct, It's what the problem

956
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: isn't him. The problem is we need more than just

957
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 2: Tyler Perry. And you know, I think once you do that,

958
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you become say that at some

959
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: point because it's like, okay, now now that you know,

960
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 2: we get a dope and the Best Man Holiday and uh.

961
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 3: Selma and.

962
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: Bell and like, once we get you know, multiple different

963
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: black experiences beyond the lights, Like, once we get all

964
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 2: these experiences, now it's like, Okay, when I go to

965
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: the movie theater, I feel like I have a choice.

966
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: The problem with the the Coach shit is everyone's treating

967
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 2: him the voice of Black America, and that causes some

968
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 2: dissent amongst the ranks because people are like, that's not

969
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: my experience. So he didn't have the complete voice. And

970
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: what I loved about the root piece and when I

971
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: took away from him more than anything else, because I

972
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: don't think it was that much that very I don't

973
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: think it was very critical of him.

974
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 3: I think people saw the headline and just got really

975
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 3: defensive about him.

976
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 2: But what I took from it was she named about

977
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: six to eight black female writers that I didn't I

978
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: hadn't read before. Now I was like, okay, cool, Like,

979
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 2: let me add these people to my list of perspectives

980
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: that I would like to read so that I can have,

981
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: you know, other things to talk about than to just

982
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 2: say tynehose Coach a hundred times because I haven't read

983
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: anything else, which I think is the you know, be

984
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: it the agenda or the real point of what she

985
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: was trying to say. I'm not sure, but that's what

986
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: I took from it was, here's some more voices, because

987
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: at any rate, it's kind of white supremacies.

988
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 3: Fault.

989
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: Yes, that one voice gets on and is they asked

990
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 2: that voice to represent everybody? To me, it would be

991
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 2: like if our podcast got to a point where people

992
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: were like, hey, you know, your podcast is.

993
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: Like, can you explain how it represents all blackness? And

994
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 3: I'll be like, it doesn't. It just represents me and caring.

995
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 2: And then people started critiquing us like, well, they don't

996
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: talk about the black trans experience enough, but they don't

997
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: talk about the black gay experience enough. But they don't

998
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: talk about the Black Christian experience enough, but they don't.

999
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: They'll be like, those aren't our experiences, right, you know

1000
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, while we do love blackness, like

1001
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: we can't speak for all of it and speak to

1002
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: all of it with the right amount of depth to

1003
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: make it worthwhile and to give it the credit it deserves.

1004
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, he did mention and other like female writers,

1005
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: like influences women in his life and stuff in the

1006
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: first chapter. So maybe, you know, but it's three chapters,

1007
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: so maybe I only finish one. Maybe he drops the

1008
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 2: ball in two and three, and then that's when I'll

1009
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: really be like, oh my god, like, how can you

1010
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: be because I know, I you know, he fucked up that.

1011
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 2: Rachel Dollar's our shit. And I was absolutely like, yeah,

1012
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: he fucked up.

1013
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 3: There's no fence for that.

1014
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: So maybe I'll feel that way at the end of

1015
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: this book. But even the piece I read about it

1016
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: didn't feel like they were saying, oh, there's no defense

1017
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 2: for this, he's terrible, blah blah blah blah. It was

1018
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: really way more like supportive, like it's a great book.

1019
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: It's it's you know, it really is telling. It talks

1020
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: a lot about American racism and structural you know, problems

1021
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 2: in this country, but at the same time, it doesn't

1022
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: give enough difference to black women. And here are the

1023
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: authors who do that. To me, there's nothing wrong with

1024
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: that critique.

1025
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: And that's valid.

1026
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 4: And it's just one of those things where a lot

1027
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: of people leaving black people treat blackness as a monolist

1028
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 4: and I and the same thing.

1029
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 1: You know, even a lot of black.

1030
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 4: People fall into the kind of the white supremacy standpoint

1031
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 4: where one one nigga represent all the niggas, so all

1032
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 4: our burdens and all our troubles and all our problems

1033
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,959
Speaker 4: fall on you, and that's not fair.

1034
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1035
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: I was trying to express that on Twitter and not

1036
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: like apparently, like this is one of those things. Apparently

1037
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 2: niggas have been arguing about this before I even read

1038
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: this shit. So I just came in and was like,

1039
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, like I saw a couple of tweets about it, like, man,

1040
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: you know, he's writing a letter to his son, so

1041
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,959
Speaker 2: you know it might not have the most information about

1042
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: black women in there, blah blah blah. And I was like, yeah, well,

1043
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: even expecting that from any person, any one black person

1044
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 2: is kind of accepting this premise or white supremacy that

1045
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: you represent everybody, and that's just not that's not fair

1046
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: on our artists, that's not fair on our authors, that's

1047
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: not fair on anybody. Like, no black person should have

1048
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: a responsibility to represent all black people at all times

1049
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: because it's fucked up and it's really just a you're

1050
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: going to fail, and it's just a way of kicking

1051
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: black artists being like, oh fuck you, and then we

1052
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: give freedom to other artists where it's like no, no, no, no, no,

1053
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: it's cool that white person they don't have to deal

1054
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: with that kind of responsibility, so they can just speak

1055
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 2: for themselves in their own individual experience. All that being said,

1056
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: niggas was like, don't.

1057
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: Even talk about my man like this. You know, he

1058
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 3: wrote up the definitive experience. Blah blah blah. I didn't

1059
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 3: even know all that shit was going on.

1060
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: I just read the first couple of quotes, read the

1061
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: article and was like, I don't see what's so bad

1062
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: about what she said.

1063
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: And I think even the author of the article understood that.

1064
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: No one person was gonna be able to tell a

1065
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: whole story about every type of black experience, which is

1066
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: why she ends with I want to say like six

1067
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 2: or seven black authors, not the mentioned the ones she

1068
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: wrote up. She put earlier in not to mention the

1069
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: influences to coach, writing that are some women, you know,

1070
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: And I feel I wish I hadn't even saw that critique,

1071
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,959
Speaker 2: to be honest, because as I was reading a book,

1072
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: I found myself like being like, well, there's women all

1073
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: throughout this book, and like, you know what I'm saying,

1074
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Like in the first chatter, I'm like, well, he's talking

1075
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: about his mom, he's talking about his grandmother, he's talking

1076
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: about you know, professors, he's talking about like all these

1077
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 2: black women influences in his life, not to mention his

1078
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: wife and the girls he dated at Howard and stuff.

1079
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I was just like.

1080
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: I hate that I'm even thinking this shit because I

1081
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: really don't give a fuck, you know what I mean, Like,

1082
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: if this is your story, this is your story. It's

1083
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: not like you open a book and he's like, man,

1084
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 2: I was fucking so many holes. Like he doesn't do

1085
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: anything disrespectful like that, but it's just the pressure to

1086
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: get it all right, man.

1087
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: Like I don't know.

1088
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: I always kind of wonder like if we're putting ourselves

1089
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: and we'll not putting ourselves, we're not doing it. But

1090
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: if there's not like a prison on black art, whereas

1091
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: like you didn't represent enough of us man, sorry it is.

1092
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: And also a lot of people have their own agendas.

1093
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 4: Sometimes when people speak out, no matter who speaks out

1094
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: and what they're speaking out about, people already come with

1095
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 4: their agendas right with. And sometimes their agendas don't even

1096
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 4: be about what the fuck the person talked about, but

1097
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 4: they're gonna squeeze their agenda into whatever you're saying to

1098
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 4: make whatever the thing is about them. And a lot

1099
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 4: of this does them back to white supremacy because and

1100
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: a lot of that it's a lot of honestly distrust

1101
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: between black men and black women, and because of the

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00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 4: distrust between black men and black women, a lot of

1103
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 4: and sexism. You know, a lot of women are like, well,

1104
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 4: when shit pops off, y'all always run and put a

1105
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 4: microphone and praise black men for their books, for their novels,

1106
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: you know, and the one of few black men that

1107
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 4: do stand up, they're always at the front line.

1108
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: But you know a lot of women are like shit,

1109
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: women work. It's a lot more women.

1110
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 4: Doing this shit than men. But they don't get the

1111
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: same praise that will get the same accolades.

1112
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Y'all. Don't y'all, don't y'all.

1113
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 4: Don't constantly push and pump and talk about the best

1114
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: selling woman. You know, African American women talking about the

1115
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 4: same things, talking about these things, Trans women, you know,

1116
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 4: LGBTQ women, These women are out there too. And the

1117
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 4: thing is, there's something wrong with the system. You got

1118
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: the right to be mad and angry, and I understand

1119
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: your pain, but the problem is that the system needs

1120
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: to be changed, and the system needs to allow the

1121
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 4: diversity versus a lottery spind and this one nigga wins

1122
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 4: it in all of a sudden, you represent everybody that's

1123
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: not fair.

1124
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: And I feel like the roote did a good Like

1125
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: the piece already anyway, did a really good job of

1126
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: saying that in addition to you know, like, like you said,

1127
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: they have an agenda, right right, but your agenda is

1128
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: your agenda, Like agendas aren't alreadys bad, they're so I

1129
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 2: feel like her agenda was regardless of what the fuck

1130
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: this buog is about. More people need to pay attention

1131
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: to black writers, black female writers are talking about who

1132
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: are talking about the black experience? You know, and I

1133
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: think I don't think anything's wrong with that.

1134
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 3: I just think that.

1135
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: It's like that that was her I feel like that

1136
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: was the goal of the piece more than necessarily a

1137
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 2: criticism of his book, because well, it's a lot more

1138
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: than Baldwin, because I read James Baldwin all last Week,

1139
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: The Fire next Time, and that was a book where

1140
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: maybe just as a sign of its time, it was

1141
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: just kind of steeped in sexism.

1142
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 3: But because I think more because of the era that

1143
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: we were in that he lived in. Yeah, like it

1144
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 3: was just steeped in like.

1145
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: Your culture is defined by the men, and your culture

1146
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 2: and the opportunities that the men are able to have,

1147
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 2: you know. But I read some of that, some parts

1148
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: of that where he's like black men were emasculated because

1149
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: the women were the one working and making money. And

1150
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess in that time it was very

1151
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: different because white men's masculinity was measured in the fact

1152
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: that I can have my woman working at home cleaning

1153
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 2: and cooking and shit, and I'm such a man that

1154
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: I can make all the money for the family, and

1155
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: black men you can never do that because we would

1156
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: not allow you to make a living wage. Your women

1157
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: had to come work in our houses and you had

1158
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: to come work in our fields, and that you know,

1159
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, that might add up

1160
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: enough to both of y'all to make a meager living.

1161
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 3: But I like, we wouldn't allow your men to have

1162
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: that level of privilege or whatever.

1163
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: Right, And I understand that that's his time, but I

1164
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: can't help I'm reading it twenty fifteen.

1165
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 3: So when I read it, I was just like, so

1166
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: the women had to work, you know what I mean, Like,

1167
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 3: what's like, what's wrong with the woman making the money?

1168
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 6: Dog?

1169
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1170
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 2: But that's my twenty fifteen on reading his nineteen fifty

1171
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 2: two minds or something like that, right, right, And it's

1172
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: not the same, right, So it's not the same. I

1173
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: didn't get the same vibe from Coach's work, but I

1174
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 2: did get a lot of you know, like a lot

1175
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: of just typical statements, like when you say, like the

1176
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: black man, or this isn't the land of God, it's

1177
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: the land of men, you know, where it's not really

1178
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 2: trying to say like and not women. But that's kind

1179
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: of a cultural thing that we've adapted, is talking that way.

1180
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: And as always, when you talk about race in such

1181
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: depth anything that you miss out or a week on

1182
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: or don't cover. People are going to be like, well,

1183
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 2: why can't you see the nuance and sexuality and sexual

1184
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: orientation and nationality and shit like that with the same

1185
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: level that you see race, which I don't think was

1186
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: the focus of the book, but that's how people are

1187
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: going to look at it. And on his Twitter account,

1188
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: he welcomed that kind of criticism. So I don't feel

1189
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: like a need to protect him from criticism because I've

1190
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: been critical of him in the past of shit, But

1191
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: I just I feel a need to kind of be

1192
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: I feel a need to always question the idea of

1193
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: black people having to represent everyone. I don't mind us going, hey,

1194
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 2: you do know this person doesn't represent anybody, doesn't represent everybody,

1195
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: because I think that's you know, I feel like that's

1196
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 2: us telling kind of the world that shit.

1197
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: Because sometimes I feel like the world tries to make

1198
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 3: it seem that way. But what I don't want it

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01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 3: to be.

1200
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Is knocking each other down because we don't all represent everybody,

1201
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 2: because that's we're just being human at that point, and

1202
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: now we're shitting on each other for being human because

1203
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: they're not allowing us enough space to have seventy five

1204
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: voices like we need, or one hundred voices or a

1205
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: thousand or a million voices, which is really the answer,

1206
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 2: Like to me, the answers like, it's when I talk.

1207
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 2: When we started podcasting and people and people weren't having

1208
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 2: other people on their shows. One reason that I was like,

1209
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 2: we need to have other people on the show is

1210
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: because I was like, we should not be the representation

1211
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: of blackness to everybody.

1212
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: That's stupid, right, you.

1213
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

1214
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: Because there's black people I don't agree with, but they

1215
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 2: do a podcast and you should go listen to them

1216
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 2: because you might not agree with the shit we talk about,

1217
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: or you might want to hear another perspective, or you know,

1218
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: just but what I don't want is to be like

1219
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 2: the singular black podcast, the black Out Tips, representing all

1220
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: the blackness for everybody.

1221
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: I want people to hear other people and be like,

1222
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't know so and so had a podcast.

1223
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: Let me go check them out. Oh I actually like

1224
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 2: them morning riding here, I'm listening to them from now on, right, And.

1225
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: We've like that, right, and we've had that happen, and

1226
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 4: this is one of those things, especially when it comes

1227
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: to diversity. The thing about diversity is that you have

1228
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 4: the right to kind of flow through it and pick

1229
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 4: and choose and go back and forth. Like you said

1230
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: that artists, I mean that writer from was It the

1231
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 4: Essence of Ebony the Root did a good thing. When

1232
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: you know she list the other female writers, because honestly,

1233
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 4: for a lot of people, especially not try to be fun.

1234
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: If you're not deep into the reading world or the

1235
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: academic world. It's like, if it ain't Tony Morris in

1236
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 4: the Zag, which are two different ends of the spectrum,

1237
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 4: you go, who are these women? So these women voices

1238
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 4: have got to be out there because a lot of

1239
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 4: people they just shout, shout, shout, and then when you

1240
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: ask them about it, nobody can can tell you anything.

1241
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's you know.

1242
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 2: And for the record, like I'm glad that she wrote

1243
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: the piece just because I got those new writers, like

1244
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: those new authors that I want to go check out now,

1245
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, I think she ended at Yeah, Barbara Ramsby,

1246
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: Crystal Fiemster, Deborah Gray White, Tomorrow, Winfrey Harris, and of

1247
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: course Blarry and Kelly who I know from twelve. So

1248
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that she did that, because I mean,

1249
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't necessarily agree that black people

1250
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: need to represent all of everything for blackness with some

1251
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 2: of the people who are critiquing it, and but I

1252
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: do agree that that that more of the black experience

1253
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: needs to be out there for consumption because it's just

1254
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 2: not you know, and while it's not his fault, it

1255
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 2: definitely like him being up there is an opportunity for

1256
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 2: other people to be like, here are some other names,

1257
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: and it's not gonna be nice to him.

1258
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be kind for him.

1259
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: But that's what it is, you know what I'm saying,

1260
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like the game, Like him being

1261
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 2: on the quote unquote top is also opportunity for people

1262
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: to have like opinions.

1263
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: That's like, hey, well have you thought about the opinions

1264
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 3: of these people?

1265
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1266
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: Of course, the comments on this article is just a

1267
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: lot of people kind of upset with her for even

1268
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: saying things.

1269
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: But I don't I feel like they didn't read it.

1270
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1271
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like what she said was so was

1272
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: so fucked up. I felt like she was just saying

1273
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: other voices deserve a chance.

1274
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes with us depending on the things I don't want

1275
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 4: to say, we're not as sensitive. It's one of the

1276
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: things where I try to be very understanding, you know,

1277
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 4: and sometimes some people, if you even bring certain things up,

1278
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 4: it's automatically on ten.

1279
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people, like honestly.

1280
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 3: There's so much hurt right between black men and women.

1281
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: They are so much hurt and distrust, you know, and

1282
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: it's kind of, you know, it's it's been earned. It's

1283
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: not like something that just came out of nowhere. It's

1284
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: definitely you know, being men leaving women behind when.

1285
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: They've had access to other things.

1286
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 1: It's been.

1287
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Pain of you know, not being people that you know,

1288
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: don't want to be husbands, don't want to be fathers,

1289
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: who don't want to be black, you know, don't want

1290
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: to be identified with the pain.

1291
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 3: Of black men. Like there's a lot of shit there.

1292
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 2: And sometimes I feel like when I'm talking to people,

1293
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking to, Like, I'm not even getting

1294
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: to talk to you because we have to get past

1295
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 2: the part where you don't try me just because I'm

1296
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 2: a dude, and and and and vice versa.

1297
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: And I think whenever you write a book that's basically.

1298
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: A letter to your son, and but it's a letter

1299
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 2: for everyone to read, like you wrote a letter to

1300
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 2: your son that everyone's gonna read. Yeah, some people are

1301
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: gonna be distrustful and more critical than I would be,

1302
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: you know, and we'll we'll see, man, But uh, I

1303
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 2: do Uh, I'm interested. I'm gonna finish the books. First

1304
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: time I read a book and on in a while,

1305
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: I read The Fire for the Fire next time, just

1306
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: that I could uh have a reference because people were

1307
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 2: comparing it to and they're both kind of quick reads,

1308
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: like one hundred and something pages for the Fire, Uh,

1309
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: next time.

1310
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 3: I think I read that in a couple of days.

1311
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 3: So anyway, for people that are wondering.

1312
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 2: And I do think the book's good so far. But

1313
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: I'm only one chapter in and we'll see. It's three chapters.

1314
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 3: We'll see what how it ends. Of course. Cornell West

1315
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: just I mean Patty mm hm, just pure fucking Patty.

1316
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: Like he went in on the deer Brother. He went

1317
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 3: in on the deer Brother for.

1318
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: Not shitting on Obama. Man, I'm like, dude, you are

1319
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: one note now what happened? Note Cornel West, like I

1320
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 2: slay the same song, but it's a good one. Write

1321
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: the same damn song every goddamn time. It's my favorite

1322
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: jam It's fuck Obama. Right, and I noticed you ain't

1323
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 2: doing a cover of it in your book, Fuck you too, Right? Yeah,

1324
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: he now here's a funny thing he wrote this. I

1325
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: don't know what's more twenty fifteen in this And what

1326
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: could confirm Michael Eric Dyson's pettiness more than this?

1327
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1328
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: He wrote this shit on Facebook.

1329
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: Facebook.

1330
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't make it up.

1331
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: Not all the other official platforms and places that he

1332
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 1: could have wrote it.

1333
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 3: He wrote on Facebook. And he spelled Tony Morrison's name wrong.

1334
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 1: You can go for that.

1335
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 2: In defense of James Baldwin. Why Tony Morrison a literary genius?

1336
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 2: Now he always said it the same way it's wrong

1337
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 2: about Tannerhosseie Coats. Baldwin was a great writer of profound

1338
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 2: courage who spoke truth to power. Coach is a clever

1339
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: wordsmith with journalistic talent who avoids any critique of the

1340
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: black president in power.

1341
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

1342
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 2: Baldwin's painful self examination led to collective action and focused

1343
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: on social movements.

1344
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: He reveled in the examples of.

1345
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: Maga Martin, Malcolm Fanny lou Hammer, and Angela Davis Coach

1346
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,719
Speaker 2: fear driven self absorption leads to individual escape and flight

1347
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: to safety. He is cowardly silent on the marvelous new

1348
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 2: militancy and ferguson Baltimore, New York, Oakland, Cleveland and other places.

1349
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 2: Coach can grow and mature, but without an analysis of capitalists,

1350
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: wealthy and inequality, gender domination, homophobic degradation, imperial occupation, all

1351
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 2: concrete forms of under and collective fight back, not just

1352
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 2: personal struggle, Coats will remain a mere dollar of white

1353
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: and black neoliberals, paralyzed by the Obama worship and hints

1354
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: of distraction from the necessary courage and vision.

1355
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 3: We need in our catastrophe.

1356
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 2: For times now, I wish the prophetic work of serious

1357
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: intellectuals like Robin D. G. Kelly and Monty Perry, Gerald

1358
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: Horn and Eddie Glaud commanded the attention the corporation, I

1359
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 2: mean the corporate media gives Coats. But in our age

1360
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: of superficial space to go, even the Great Morrison is

1361
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 2: seduced by the linguistic glits and the political silences of Coats.

1362
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: As we all hunger for the literary genius and political

1363
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: engagement of Baldwin.

1364
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: As in jazz.

1365
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: As in jazz, by the way, there's a there's a

1366
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: really good paragraph near the end of chapter one where

1367
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: he does where Coach does talk about his.

1368
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: Own like homophobia and.

1369
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: Like gender like privilege and shit that I really enjoyed,

1370
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: where he was basically like, I've been worried about how

1371
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 2: people look at me my whole life as a black man,

1372
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 2: but not really how I look at other people, because

1373
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 2: I'm a man, a straight, a straight man. Where I

1374
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: can just kind of ignore some shit, well, no, where

1375
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 2: I can have these same fucked up opinions about other

1376
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: people that just aren't.

1377
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: Me other people is not a problem because it ain't me.

1378
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 3: Right in the same privilege. It was a cool paragraph,

1379
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 3: as in jazz.

1380
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 2: We must teach our youth that immaculum, immature imitation is suicide.

1381
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: A premature elevation is death, mister West concludes, though it's

1382
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 2: unclear if he has listened to a very early John

1383
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: coulture and recording in which the great sexophone the sound

1384
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: sort of embarrassing like a bad Charlie Parker. Uh, brother Coaps,

1385
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: continue to lift your gifted voice to your precious son,

1386
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: and all of us just beware of the white noise

1387
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 2: and become connected to the people's movements.

1388
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 3: Mister Coaps did not respond to an email request.

1389
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: That's for a comment, wonder why, Well, he's been really

1390
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 2: good about kind of taking some of this shit and

1391
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 2: strike because some of the critique I've been like, oh,

1392
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: flat out wow, you know what I mean. Like with

1393
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 2: the white dude that wrote the one where he was

1394
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: basically like what about me? I was just like, what,

1395
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,680
Speaker 2: how did you read all that and come away with

1396
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: what about the white man?

1397
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:23,640
Speaker 3: Like what?

1398
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, this doesn't have anything. This is something to his child,

1399
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: So why would he worry about you?

1400
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 3: It's amazing, but.

1401
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 2: That's you know, that's just how I think most criticisms

1402
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 2: comes from a place or what about me anyway?

1403
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 1: Correct?

1404
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 3: But with some people you're just like, come on, man,

1405
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 3: like you don't need to do that, but.

1406
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,560
Speaker 2: Just don't have a goddamn thing to do about you.

1407
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 2: Like the black woman that wrote the joint. At least

1408
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, she didn't just shit on it.

1409
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 2: She saw the merit in it. She was like, here's

1410
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: some some company me. But this nigga was just like

1411
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 2: m M no.

1412
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: America was great, Sorry, disagree, you know what I mean?

1413
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: Like all that bullshit you talking about what about a

1414
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: white man? Right?

1415
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I want to strangle that dude.

1416
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: Right.

1417
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 4: He was like, Oh, we're not saying that the white

1418
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 4: man is the greatest in your black ass life.

1419
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: You're a kidding me.

1420
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: Right, And of course you know with Cornell West, uh,

1421
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 2: he like, uh, just kind of linked to the comment,

1422
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 2: but he didn't speak his opinion. So I think he's

1423
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: kind of in that point where he's just sitting back

1424
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 2: reading everything probably that's written about the book and said

1425
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: about it.

1426
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 3: But he but he's probably not gonna try to defend

1427
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 3: it because you know, it is what it is.

1428
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: You know, you're not gonna be able to change anyone's mind.

1429
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: You know, last night I saw somebody say something to

1430
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: him where they were like, and what about your mama?

1431
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: Like like you forgot about your mother?

1432
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 3: And he was like, the mother who I talk about

1433
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 3: taught me to read in chapter one, that taught me

1434
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 3: to write.

1435
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 4: Right, people don't read like people like critiquing, and they're

1436
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 4: not even reading this ship that they're critiquing.

1437
01:12:58,520 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: There's nothing looking.

1438
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: There's no fucking more frustrating than that, because when you

1439
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: start asking questions, oh, I didn't read that, you'll be like, well,

1440
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 4: why the fuck are you over here?

1441
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: And you didn't even read the shit.

1442
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the reason I didn't even attempt to

1443
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 2: try to like say that that that that lady's critique

1444
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: was in valid or anything, because I was like, I

1445
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: need to read the book.

1446
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 3: I just don't want to be another person talking about

1447
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: this book that didn't even fucking read the book, right. Yeah.

1448
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 3: It just feels so silly to me because a book,

1449
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 3: you can buy it and read it. Why are we

1450
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:29,520
Speaker 3: having this long conversation.

1451
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: You get it audio book nowadays, you ain't got to

1452
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: read it.

1453
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need to read the book. I have to

1454
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: take the time to read it. Because the other thing

1455
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 2: is everything people are saying could be right. I might

1456
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: finish this fucking book and be like.

1457
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: You know what, it was fucked up? You know what

1458
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 3: I mean.

1459
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: It happens all the time where you like I thought

1460
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: I would like something. You know, you go see a

1461
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 2: movie and then you walk out the movie. You're like,

1462
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: the movie was fucked up. So I don't want to

1463
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have a defense for any of

1464
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: this shit. It's just kind of funny how people are

1465
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 2: jumping on the boy for ship like this man. Uh

1466
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 2: and I don't mean boy derogatory, I mean like my

1467
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 2: nig anyway, so h my man missed the coach.

1468
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 3: Coach didn't want to answer the email question. Can, but

1469
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 3: you know who did?

1470
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 1: Did?

1471
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: Do you know who did?

1472
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: Who did?

1473
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 6: Oh?

1474
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: I'll tell you who did? Can? Why your mother?

1475
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: What side? Yeah? My nigga?

1476
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: Michael Eric He answered that motherfucker email dog, he said, tag.

1477
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: Me in, trying to hosey tag me in. You ain't

1478
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: got to speak, my brother. I will speak on your behalf.

1479
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: I got you, brother, Allow me to brother, allow me

1480
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: to impede my Veloci rapped on.

1481
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 1: This on this yes, m.

1482
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: Uh so hero.

1483
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,839
Speaker 2: He described mister West's Facebook page as an acrimonious dirge.

1484
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 3: I gotta look both them words up right.

1485
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck is that?

1486
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 3: God damn out the.

1487
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 4: Gate he's starting off making me have to use the

1488
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 4: white man's Google?

1489
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 3: What the fuck is that acrimonious dirt? That sounded like

1490
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 3: a character on Game of Thrones?

1491
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: Right right?

1492
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 3: Oh, No, acrimonious dirt is trying to He's trying to

1493
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: catch Sercy. Run run right, Achimonius dirt is coming that.

1494
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 1: The Akimonius dirge clan is here.

1495
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 2: Bit you better run that sound like some ship that

1496
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,680
Speaker 2: you say to your dragons and they do something right.

1497
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: That's a spell. And Harry Potter all.

1498
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 2: Right, uh, he said, it was an acrimonious dirt and

1499
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 2: a bit of nasty, sorrowful blue note and despotically and

1500
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 2: wilfully and tolerant of the gifts and talents of those

1501
01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: who made potentially eclipse him.

1502
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 3: They coming from your throne, nigga, they coming you. Just

1503
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: imagine washed up, sad old man. You're jealous.

1504
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: It shows the vast neptitude the Professor West's scholarship. Mister

1505
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: Dyson told the Observer in a phone conversation, the point

1506
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 2: I made in my piece is that he doesn't keep wait,

1507
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 2: hold up, hold up, you're right man, this nigga picked.

1508
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: Up the phone. Yeah it was serious, Yeah, he big.

1509
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 3: He said, hold on, man, my number is Bama. Hit

1510
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 3: me up, let's talk.

1511
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: Get me on Sky. Bring up your audacity and record

1512
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:33,599
Speaker 1: the record.

1513
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm about to air this dear brother out.

1514
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 5: Yes, I wish a dear brother would.

1515
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 1: I got videos. You could see my face and know

1516
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: what it is.

1517
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: Real. So he said, I hate you.

1518
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: I hate your mama. I hate everything about him. I

1519
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: hate that post. I hate his hell, I hate them glasses.

1520
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: I hate him.

1521
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love a comment on the Facebook page of

1522
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: Cornell West on this post because it public, and I said, uh,

1523
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: whatever intern wrote this for you is a joke.

1524
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: A lot.

1525
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 2: It was the number one comment for a while. I

1526
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: don't know if it's still God. I feel like you

1527
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 2: must have got the leader. I haven't got one of

1528
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 2: them notifications.

1529
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 3: That have got liked in a while. So the point

1530
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 3: I made in my piece is that he doesn't keep up.

1531
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: He doesn't read the freshest, newest, most insightful scholarship, nor

1532
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: does he write about it in any serious fashion or

1533
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: teach it in his curriculum.

1534
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 3: And it shows here.

1535
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: Oh you ain't up today, dog? Why don't you get

1536
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 1: them new Jordans? What you are behind the times?

1537
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 3: Don't update Joe syllabus nigga?

1538
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: Right, I got a I got an Xbox one, but

1539
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: you got that three sixty?

1540
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 3: What you got on your curriculum?

1541
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: Dear brother?

1542
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 6: Right?

1543
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 4: Mm hm.

1544
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 3: Old bitch ass dear brother.

1545
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 2: Uh so he said, Uh, mister Dyson called mister Coats,

1546
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: who writes about the rate about race for the Atlantic,

1547
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 2: a great gift, a greatly gifted writer who formed sentences

1548
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 2: and thoughts that sings on the page and stick to

1549
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 2: the mind. Every change he made against every charge he

1550
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 2: made against Tannahosse is platently false.

1551
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: Mister Dalton said, shall I introduce you.

1552
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: To the essay on Reparations? It has every bit of

1553
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 2: analysis that Wes was hankering for. Mister Dyson at it,

1554
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 2: alluding to mister coats atlantic cover story, The Case for Reparations,

1555
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 2: which was published last summer. He also described mister West's

1556
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: post as a rebuke on Tony Morrison. And so now

1557
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: that makes her look like a duke and a boob

1558
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: when she is a literary genius.

1559
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: They both love that.

1560
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: So she is a literary genius who possesses a noble

1561
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: prize in literature. He said, I think her pedigree of

1562
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 2: assessment is far more convincing than Cornell Wests.

1563
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: Mister Dyson' suggested that mister West listened to.

1564
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: The great Ludwig Wiggenstelling and Steam and said, where one

1565
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 2: cannot speak that of one must be silent.

1566
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 3: What side till we shop? We do our job?

1567
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: You think you are.

1568
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 2: Nigga wen, mother fucking mom, ain't Kipper real niggas.

1569
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: All your motherfuckers, Petty we Petty we Patty Patty fox

1570
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 1: fo make all your people die slow yeah we Patty

1571
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: mm hmmm.

1572
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: Uh man, that was good. Came off that top rope?

1573
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: Right? Is that Michael Ericas and music out here put

1574
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: it right. It's like, I will not let you wrap

1575
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: on this record by yourself. And he took the mic.

1576
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: The humanity JD Right, but are you done? You're done? Okay,

1577
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: Now it's my turn to get intellectual in this bitch

1578
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: got a cheer. Oh my god. I couldn't even imagine

1579
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: that phone call. I bet I bet you. That was instant.

1580
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: He's seeing that ship. But you know what, I bet

1581
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: you he called him. I bet you as soon as

1582
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: he's seeing that ship. Both they was like ring ring.

1583
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: They was like, oh you was on the I know

1584
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: I was on your mind. I got something to say.

1585
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: I want to flex my literary genius real quick. That

1586
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 3: literary genius is good. I didn't put that in my

1587
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 3: y literary genius.

1588
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: It was like he said something Patty, I got to

1589
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 1: say some ship too. He will not put out a

1590
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: mixtape without me on it.

1591
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: Speaking of race talk, you know who likes to not

1592
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 2: talk about race. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders has a presidential

1593
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 2: campaign that a lot of people are excited about.

1594
01:20:59,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: How do I know?

1595
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 2: Because they all of my mentions on goddamn Twitter. You

1596
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: can't talk about this man without some of his fucking listeners.

1597
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:08,680
Speaker 3: What do you call him?

1598
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 4: Uh?

1599
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: Stands? I don't even know?

1600
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: Ok what if? Okay, because I'm not in this loop?

1601
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: What if? Did he come from? Or why is everybody? Man?

1602
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 2: Well, he's a presidential campaign, a candidate from the Democrats,

1603
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: and he talks a lot about economic equality.

1604
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 3: That's kind of his claim to fame.

1605
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 2: And obviously, uh, now that the president in a large

1606
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 2: part has served and listened to a huge portion of

1607
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 2: the black community with the Black Lives Matter campaign and

1608
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: some of the legislation he's passed, some of the things

1609
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: he's tried to get intacted, some of the practices.

1610
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 3: Some of the language and his speeches black people. I think,

1611
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 3: in a way.

1612
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, unlike any other time, but

1613
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: unlike any other time, my life feel galvanized and no

1614
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: longer just will accept the token.

1615
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 3: Will get to you when we can get to.

1616
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: You, right right, okay, okay, right right?

1617
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: Right.

1618
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 3: If anything, I think.

1619
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 2: That might be the president's legacy that on the low

1620
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,759
Speaker 2: would be way more influential than any legislation he passes,

1621
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 2: which is not to say which is not a slight

1622
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: of the legislation he's passed that is gonna you know,

1623
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 2: like Obamacare is gonna be forever, like some shit that

1624
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 2: you know your kids.

1625
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 3: Will just take for granted type thing.

1626
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 4: Right like Medica Medicare and uh to piggyback on something

1627
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 4: that you said. This has a lot to do with

1628
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 4: whoever runs, especially a Democrat Democratic candidate, They're gonna have issues.

1629
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 1: If they do not talk about black and Latino issues.

1630
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 4: You can no longer run and not bring up anything

1631
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: about us like that shit ain't happening no more.

1632
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: President i'ma has set the standard that you have. You

1633
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: have to address this shit. You can't let it slide.

1634
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: You can't ignore it anymore.

1635
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 4: Because social media has allowed people's voices to be very

1636
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 4: loud and very clear. It has allowed people to voice

1637
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 4: their displeasure in the ship that you do in real time,

1638
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 4: and so you know, it's one of those things where

1639
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 4: President Obama has basically revamped and a lot of people

1640
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 4: will take a lot of the ship. He's done for granted,

1641
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 4: over years, he's revamped the way you run for presidents presidency.

1642
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: Now everybody.

1643
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 4: When he did the Twitter where people could donate by Twitter,

1644
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 4: through telephone, through Facebook, okay, that's like a standard. Now

1645
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 4: he raised billions of dollars like that. Before people was

1646
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 4: not using social media to raise money. Now it's the standard.

1647
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 4: Now people are on these other platforms that they would

1648
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 4: have ever thought of. Now you know you have h

1649
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: I guarantee you when it's time for election time, you're

1650
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 4: gonna have other presidential candidates going on some of these

1651
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 4: podcast and some of the larger podcasts, like they do

1652
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 4: their radio rounds so that they could get to people

1653
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 4: that otherwise probably wouldn't give a fuck about them.

1654
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: And so to me, all this, we'll get around to

1655
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 1: you later. Shit that shit is gone. Like when shit

1656
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: happens to us and.

1657
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 4: Minorities and lgbtqs, we're gonna expect the president to address them.

1658
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 4: We're gonna expect the president to talk about it. We're

1659
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 4: not all this shit like with Katrina and the George

1660
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 4: Bush that like that. That's not gonna fly anymore because

1661
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 4: people go, no, no, no, no, We've Honestly, we've got inspalled.

1662
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be amazing when people try to push

1663
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 4: us back to how we used to be with our

1664
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 4: agendas and our issues on the back Brunner. And you know,

1665
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 4: that's like giving a kid a cookie and then trying

1666
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: to smack it at their hand. The kid's gonna put

1667
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:44,439
Speaker 4: up a fucking fight.

1668
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 2: That's not happening, right, And I think that people don't

1669
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: realize it, or he doesn't realize it yet, and Hillary

1670
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 2: to a certain stit doesn't realize it yet.

1671
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 3: You almost have to be in the black community to

1672
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,560
Speaker 3: realize exactly how this shit is going going down, like

1673
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: no more will it be less?

1674
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: Like well, hey, they said, after so and so gets

1675
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: their rights, they'll get around to the black stuff. And

1676
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: we've covered it on the show last week where there

1677
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: was a quote from him when he was talking in

1678
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: the interview and he was asked directly about race a

1679
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: couple of times, and he pivoted right into financial inequality.

1680
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: Right, gonna fly right.

1681
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 2: He started talking immediately about like classism and you know,

1682
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: poor people can get this, that and the other failing

1683
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 2: to understand and that and his people on Twitter that

1684
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 2: that are like his fans also failed to understand this.

1685
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 2: They are equating being poor with being black men, right,

1686
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm being I'm anti poverty, therefore I am pro black.

1687
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 3: Those are not the two. Both of those are not

1688
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: the same thing.

1689
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: You know, income inequality is a factor that we definitely

1690
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,160
Speaker 2: as black people would be affected by, and we definitely

1691
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: would love to see income inequality the lesson or go

1692
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: away completely, obviously, But there's also this factor where I

1693
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: could be in a coop and a lot of people

1694
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 2: still see me as a nigga and police can still

1695
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: pull me over. You know, when they talk to him

1696
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: about Ferguson, his thing was, if we have more jobs

1697
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 2: in Ferguson, black youth would be working. That's which is

1698
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 2: like problem, right, Well, you're just like that, Like I

1699
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: understand no one's against having a job, right, but that

1700
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: is not the question. That's not the answer to the

1701
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: question that was asked.

1702
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 4: Right, because having a job, you can still get shot

1703
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 4: being black in the street with other fucking job, So job.

1704
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Is not the problem, right.

1705
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,879
Speaker 2: I got pulled over for DWB in my Wendy's uniform

1706
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 2: on the way from Wendy's to go back to college.

1707
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: Like this is like they're not just pulling you over

1708
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 2: and going, oh, you got a job, okay, then ship bad,

1709
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: my bad dog.

1710
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: A job saved. Joe asked today, not you was one

1711
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 1: of them niggas that did not a job. We had

1712
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: to shoot you.

1713
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 3: I was gonna kill you. Mike Michael Brown was going

1714
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 3: to college monday, you know what I'm saying. He never

1715
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 3: got there.

1716
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 2: So it's like, if anything, it is a twine your

1717
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 2: respectability politics there. But then more importantly than that, there's

1718
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 2: a complete ignorance on race, or at least avoiding talking

1719
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: about it, which I don't think black people are gonna

1720
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: take from a candidate, at least not anytime soon. You know,

1721
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: it's like once you once you kind of had chocolate,

1722
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 2: you don't wanna you know, you don't wanna go back.

1723
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 3: It's like it's like yode, I don't want dollar store

1724
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 3: candy no more.

1725
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:48,920
Speaker 4: Dog, I want the real shit and the thing about it,

1726
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: whether people agree or disagree. One thing that I do

1727
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 4: give Hillary Clinton for, even though she she just slows

1728
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 4: the task, she will kind of sort of bring some

1729
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: shit up. You just like them things where you better

1730
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 4: at least acknowledge it, because.

1731
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: If you don't acknowledge it. It's gonna be a motherfucking issue, right.

1732
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: And the thing with Bernie is people are promoting him

1733
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 2: as if he's just got all this ship together, and

1734
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: his fans oh my god, if you bring up anything

1735
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: about him on Twitter and saying like, well, I would

1736
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 2: like to see him make more of a statement on this,

1737
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: or I don't like his response to this question about race.

1738
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 3: They hit you up on Twitter and they start harassing you.

1739
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 3: They had. They did it to me last night.

1740
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 2: They did it to Eli James White for like fucking

1741
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: hours last night, Like I went to bed and it

1742
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 2: was still niggas in his mentions like, oh not niggas,

1743
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: but it was still Bernie's stands in his mentions like nope,

1744
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: uh he did.

1745
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 3: He marched with MLK.

1746
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: What do anything right?

1747
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: One dude said last week he was original.

1748
01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: He was the original Black Lives Matter because he marched

1749
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: with MLK and m.

1750
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,600
Speaker 3: Black Lives not started at twenty fourteen, man, So.

1751
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: You're gonna co opt the movement right forty years in

1752
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: the past, like on some mother fucking Martin McFly.

1753
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,360
Speaker 3: Shit, you got Tom Sheen, Bernie, what are you talking about?

1754
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: This shows your unfamiliarity with that movement and its leaders

1755
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 2: and the development of it. And it also shows that

1756
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: you want to coast on shit you've done in the past.

1757
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 2: But people right now, black people are about what you're

1758
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 2: gonna do next? What are you gonna do for us now?

1759
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 2: Because that's how people talk about Obama. And I'm glad

1760
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: they're keeping up that intensity because my biggest fear was

1761
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 2: that black people would internalize this idea of well, now

1762
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: that there's white candidates, we shouldn't expect them to do

1763
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 2: anything because they're white and we're black, and why would

1764
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 2: they want to help us out? And that's not good enough? Nope,

1765
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: And so I like that people are putting pressure on

1766
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 2: them too. I think him and another candidate went to

1767
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 2: give O'Malley they went to go give talks to interviews

1768
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: at net Roots yesterday and there was a Black Lives

1769
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,839
Speaker 2: Matter protest where they like even came up on stage

1770
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 2: say did to say her name?

1771
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: Did some chance like you know, took it over for

1772
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 3: a second.

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01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna get too far into the body

1774
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: language thing, because I do think people are round up

1775
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 2: and it's a little bit of pettiness, but but actually,

1776
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 2: you know what, let's take I take that back. I

1777
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 2: won't get into it until I see the full video

1778
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: because what I saw was like obviously a clip, it

1779
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: was about a minute long, but they took.

1780
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:33,679
Speaker 3: Out some stuff.

1781
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 2: So his thing, Yeah, he may have given like the

1782
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 2: speech might have been ten minutes, and maybe he gave

1783
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: them ten minutes of horrible body language and tried to

1784
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:42,720
Speaker 2: grab the mic and take I don't know what all

1785
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 2: he did, but I just know people was on his

1786
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 2: ass about his reaction to it. And then he said

1787
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: he had to leave to another interview so he didn't

1788
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: talk about race. It's like, so you went to a

1789
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: black conference, right thinking that you weren't gonna have to

1790
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: talk about or that every time race came up you

1791
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 2: could change it to you could change what you were

1792
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 2: saying to the economics.

1793
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 3: Of the situation, but avoid the racial part of the situation.

1794
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 3: Like do you think we're fools? Like we're smart enough

1795
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: to know what you're doing.

1796
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:22,600
Speaker 2: And if you don't think we're fools, and we know

1797
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: we're not fools, then it leads to the question, who

1798
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: are your answers really for it?

1799
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 3: Because we know they're not for us, and it can't

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01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 3: be for Republicans.

1801
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 2: Your answers about for Democrats that don't want to talk

1802
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 2: about black shit, right, And that's really the that's the

1803
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 2: scary part to me, is this big ass party that's

1804
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: supposed to be the big tent and they're fucking afraid

1805
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: to talk about black shit.

1806
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: It's the reason that half.

1807
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 2: Of them motherfuckers ran away from Obama and lost their

1808
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 2: motherfucking seats last year because they were worried about I

1809
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about race. I don't want to

1810
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: be related to it. If I'm shaking the President's hand,

1811
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 2: now I gotta.

1812
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 3: Talk about race.

1813
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna try to attach me to all his

1814
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 2: racial policies. I don't want to have to do any

1815
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 2: of that. He is so divisive. He didn't give me

1816
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 2: all the things he promised me, like all that negative ship,

1817
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: and then they lost their hats than twenty fourteen. So yeah,

1818
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm not impressed. And his fucking sick effects.

1819
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 2: That were all of my mentions talking about when he

1820
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 2: Marshall Martin Luther King like, okay, good for him, it's

1821
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,559
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen, dad, bro, he been dad?

1822
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 1: Is that at the end? Was that it? You know

1823
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, because.

1824
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Yo, I wrapped with Tupac. I'm hot on the streets,

1825
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: son on the streets. I wrapped with Tupac one time,

1826
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 2: one last time.

1827
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: You got to see these I'm an outlaw. Who you

1828
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:50,680
Speaker 1: working with?

1829
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:53,679
Speaker 3: I'm working with? I rapped with Tupac, So I worked

1830
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 3: with Drake that time.

1831
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 1: Are you on SoundCloud?

1832
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 3: What's the SoundCloud?

1833
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:01,280
Speaker 2: I'll be doing sounds to the clouds sometimes obviously clouds outside.

1834
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 2: I like, I wonder how that cloud sound. Talking about

1835
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 2: I got an I cloud on my phone Cloudburst and

1836
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Arkham Knight. That's the last level. Yeah, like that is

1837
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,280
Speaker 2: like so for his stands to be all over it.

1838
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 2: I mentioned it was so fucking stupid, and they even

1839
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 2: doing it to anyone who doesn't think Bernie Sanders uh.

1840
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: On race.

1841
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 3: It's not even like people are shitting on him in

1842
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 3: every aspect. It's just like yo own race. This nigga

1843
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 3: needs to just step it up a little bit.

1844
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, just a little bit, because the like,

1845
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 2: can you at least I don't know, can you say

1846
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: black lives with that?

1847
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Like? Could you say that without like having to like

1848
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 3: fix it on the back with the all lives matter? Like,

1849
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 3: could you say.

1850
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 2: White supremacy is a thing without having to come around

1851
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,760
Speaker 2: and like provide some equal opposite point of view as like, well,

1852
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, white supremacy is a thing, and so is

1853
01:33:58,000 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: black supremacy, and both of them bad.

1854
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1855
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: Right? Could you just be like, yes, what the wolis

1856
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,839
Speaker 2: are doing to black people's fucking terrible. And when I'm president,

1857
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't make sure that shit stops. I don't even

1858
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 2: know if you can make it stop. I just need

1859
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 2: you to lot of me the way you lie to

1860
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: everybody else.

1861
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 3: That's the least you can do in America. Give me

1862
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:18,680
Speaker 3: my motherfucking respect.

1863
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 1: Dog, That's the minimal. Because this is the thing.

1864
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 4: I think that this election is gonna be interesting for

1865
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:28,440
Speaker 4: the fact that for a lot of Democrats, they automatically

1866
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:32,639
Speaker 4: assume that black people are monolitht upside and black people

1867
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 4: are dumb, and that you.

1868
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: Automatically have the black vote.

1869
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 4: But like I said, President Obama has raised the standard

1870
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 4: where people are actually saying I'm not voting for you

1871
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 4: just because I'm black. A lot of people for the

1872
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 4: first time, all joke aside is going, are you gonna

1873
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 4: talk about my issues? Are you gonna bring my shit

1874
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 4: up this shit. People dying in the street matters to me,

1875
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 4: are you gonna talk about this? People protesting and burning

1876
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 4: down cities because officers shot them with that with impunity

1877
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 4: matters to me?

1878
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: Are you gonna talk about this? They're gonna start challenging them.

1879
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 4: They start gonna start questioning them when they start going

1880
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 4: across the country to the town halls. Like, if you're

1881
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,960
Speaker 4: a Democrat and you're running, you cannot blow past race

1882
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,519
Speaker 4: because every time you do, people are gonna hit you

1883
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:18,640
Speaker 4: up on Facebook, hit you up on Twitter, hit you

1884
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 4: up on Google Plus, tell them to all these social

1885
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 4: medias and let you know that they're not satisfied with

1886
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 4: these actions. You can't be like, I want the black vote,

1887
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 4: but you don't want to talk about the black issues,

1888
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 4: because in that fail, you talk about everybody else's issues.

1889
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 3: Someone told me last no joke.

1890
01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: One of his followers hit me up and said some

1891
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 2: shit like I dug septic tanks or some shit in

1892
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:45,680
Speaker 2: Haiti or some other black place. And he's like, you're

1893
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 2: gonna tell me that I don't that I can't understand

1894
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 2: what it's like to be black. Yes, because I have,

1895
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 2: Because he said, just because I have white skin So

1896
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 2: that's exactly what the fun I'm gonna.

1897
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Tell you, right, because what do you understand?

1898
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you talking about?

1899
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:03,280
Speaker 4: You?

1900
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: You are so to you literally like I'm like, are

1901
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: are people on Twitter?

1902
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Like is there a secret like Twitter conspiracy to actually

1903
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 2: undermine Bernie saying this by pretending to be for him

1904
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 2: and then saying completely ignorant ship to black people so

1905
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 2: that we don't vote for him, because that is a

1906
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,880
Speaker 2: lot more palatable than the thought that these motherfuckers actually

1907
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: exist in real life and thought that was some okay.

1908
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:32,640
Speaker 3: Ship to say to me because Americans are dumb, that is,

1909
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:34,719
Speaker 3: it is crazy.

1910
01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 2: The ship that they're saying is like I said, dudes,

1911
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 2: like so, so, I mean Bernie marsh he was at at.

1912
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,320
Speaker 3: The City Is. I was like, cool, what year was that?

1913
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:45,280
Speaker 4: Right?

1914
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's look forward to the future. I

1915
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 2: mean it's about legislation and doing things now. Cool, what

1916
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: legislation is he proposing?

1917
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Crickets? Okay, yeah, okay, that'll get you, that'll get my vote.

1918
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 4: Right because this ship because Okay, you worked at Hades,

1919
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 4: that don't mean the motherfucking thing you can work at

1920
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 4: hadies lay some pipes down and be like I hate

1921
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 4: all these niggas I'm around. I'm only here because I

1922
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 4: get goddamn paid.

1923
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 2: Come on, two notes, One is just Haiti, although I

1924
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 2: do prefer working in Hades because he can go to head.

1925
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: And then two, have you been saying Obama? I feel

1926
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:22,520
Speaker 2: like you've been saying President Obama?

1927
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: Obama.

1928
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 3: It's just Obama?

1929
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: No h but yeah, so now this is this just

1930
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 2: happened right before we went on the air, and uh,

1931
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm becoming aware of it actually as we're doing the show.

1932
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:40,559
Speaker 3: But apparently I started trending topic in America. Oh shit,

1933
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 3: right before we started trending topics. Come on, my girl,

1934
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 3: you know our girl Moni.

1935
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: On twelve, she said, if I see one more Bernie

1936
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 2: act like mentioning he march with MLK, I'm going to

1937
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:53,639
Speaker 2: burn the Internet to the ground.

1938
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 3: I retweeted it because I was like, right, fuck, yes,

1939
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 3: they've been doing that to me too.

1940
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 2: I thought it was just me they've been doing So

1941
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 2: that's the big jokers, that the fucking MLK Pokemon.

1942
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 3: They just throw that bitch out like damn nigga, like,

1943
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 3: oh I have a dream that Oh you got me?

1944
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 3: It's not alive no more?

1945
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 1: What are we talking about I can't disagree with that.

1946
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 2: So then I made a joke, So I castley hold

1947
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 2: up Bernie Sanders marshal MLK, this changes everything.

1948
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:19,799
Speaker 3: And then.

1949
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 2: Somebody said, yeah, that's what his people keep screaming. Who's

1950
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 2: he watching with now though? Hashag who you're with?

1951
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,120
Speaker 3: And I said, everyone knows m OK is the big joker.

1952
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:32,439
Speaker 8: And then.

1953
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: Uh Amoni retweeted me and said, during the mL during

1954
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 2: a millionaire in March, bro when the March MLK?

1955
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: So uh? She said, pretty sure.

1956
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Bernie plays spades with Stokely Carmichael at Jackson Fire concert once,

1957
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 2: and so I retweeted hashtag Bernie so black he teaches

1958
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,680
Speaker 2: you how to chotch your slide. I said, I heard

1959
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders show Red Fox how to put dice in

1960
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 2: the Crown royal bag hashtag Bernie so black. Oh shit,

1961
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 2: I actually heard it was Bernie's idea the Marching Salmon

1962
01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 2: MLK wanted to march in Hawaii a destination march hashtag

1963
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 2: Bernie so black. A little known fact, Bernie Sanders was

1964
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,519
Speaker 2: actually the one who told John Collos and Tommy Smith

1965
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 2: to put up a black Power fist in sixty eight

1966
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 2: hashtag Bernie so black.

1967
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 3: Oh and then we did the show.

1968
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 4: That was it.

1969
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 2: I all got Twitter and we did the show and

1970
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,840
Speaker 2: I just saw not only am My twining trending? Is

1971
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: it trending on Twitter? But the La Times who has

1972
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 2: a black Twitter division?

1973
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: Now not the black Twitter division? Yeah, the first artist

1974
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: instead of just coming Twitter, the first.

1975
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 2: Article was horrendous in my opinion, it was really bad.

1976
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: It's like what if black when black Twitter is like

1977
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 2: white Twitter? That was bad.

1978
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: No, you you you don't you don't do that.

1979
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 3: No, yeah, there was no Yeah, that was up. Oh yeah,

1980
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 3: I was part of twittering little up.

1981
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 2: I was up in his mintiones because he said, he said,

1982
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 2: I will I'll like on tomorrow at noon and we'll

1983
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,600
Speaker 2: discuss this noon PSD. So that was three o'clock at

1984
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 2: our time, and I was I was in his mintiones

1985
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: at two forty five. Talked about where you are, bro,

1986
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,680
Speaker 2: let's do this. I'm ready And then he didn't come

1987
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 2: back for a while. I had to go do the show,

1988
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 2: so we couldn't do it that day, but I wanted

1989
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 2: to go back with him. And then he wrote another

1990
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 2: piece that was actually about uh, the black lady that was.

1991
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: Killed Sandra Bland Bland I believe it's her name, who

1992
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 3: was a black woman who was basically pulled over for

1993
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:42,879
Speaker 3: traffic violation.

1994
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

1995
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 3: It is on tape some of it where they clearly

1996
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 3: had slammed her into the ground.

1997
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 2: Uh. She said she couldn't hear. She said, why'd you

1998
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 2: slam me on the ground. They were being rough with her,

1999
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 2: and you know she's uh, you know, spoke in about

2000
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter and stuff on her social media accounts

2001
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 2: and stuff, and so she went to jail and on

2002
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: the last day they said, like there she.

2003
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 3: Was suppoded to get free at say nine am or something.

2004
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 2: At they said they checked on her, and then at

2005
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 2: eight am they talked to her by what do you

2006
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 2: call it, by speaker, you know, like the the speakers

2007
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: that you have throughout.

2008
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 3: A building where you can communicate.

2009
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 2: With each other to get what that's called intercom. They

2010
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 2: sucked her about intercom and then they found her hung

2011
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:35,839
Speaker 2: in her cell.

2012
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 3: At nine or whatever.

2013
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't believe that. Nobody, nobody, nobody killed her.

2014
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 3: Nobody believes that.

2015
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 1: No, she did not hang herself. No, she did not.

2016
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 3: All the shady ship the police have done.

2017
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 4: There's no they did so fucked up to her and

2018
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 4: they was like, this ship will never see the light

2019
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 4: of they bitch, and somebody hung her.

2020
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that hashtag if I die in police custody

2021
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 2: was trending on Twitter. That's what it was trending in

2022
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,400
Speaker 2: the people being like, Yo, don't believe that shit. I

2023
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 2: would never harm myself, So don't you know, investigate it, fight, like,

2024
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,560
Speaker 2: find out what the fuck happened to me? Because you know,

2025
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 2: these mysterious black deaths and police custody are quite the trend, right,

2026
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:17,559
Speaker 2: all right.

2027
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 3: So they wrote about that for their second piece, and

2028
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 3: that was like someone even hit me.

2029
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 2: I was like, should I be mad at this one too?

2030
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 2: And I was like, I wasn't read. I was like, no,

2031
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 2: nothing's wrong with this one. I wish the first one

2032
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 2: would have been more like this than the shit about

2033
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:37,240
Speaker 2: you know, when black Twitter sounds black white Twitter and

2034
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,840
Speaker 2: like a hit piece on black Twitter, because it's just

2035
01:42:40,240 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 2: a very negative point of view, and there's enough of

2036
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,479
Speaker 2: that going around about black culture. You know, we got

2037
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 2: a black writer writing for La Times about a black

2038
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 2: topic in black Twitter.

2039
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 3: Could we stop the hit pieces, right.

2040
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 1: Because we're good enough with those anyway. And I guess

2041
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: to me. I just have why don't you cover Twitter?

2042
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:00,679
Speaker 4: I just have a problem with you call it quote

2043
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,759
Speaker 4: unquote black twitter, Like this's not all aspects of goddamn Twitter.

2044
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, yeah, I'm not even gonna really argue

2045
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 2: with the concept of it or not.

2046
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 3: Whatever. Why black Twitter's like porn? You know what when

2047
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 3: you see it?

2048
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know how to describe it and to

2049
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 2: find it either, but I know I'm part of it

2050
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 2: and I know when it's happening. Anyway, that dude just

2051
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 2: emailed me during the show, was like he wont to

2052
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 2: talk to me about that trending topic.

2053
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 3: Cool, so maybe would be in the La Times.

2054
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2055
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:29,760
Speaker 3: That crazy though.

2056
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, Bernie thinking, he Bernie so black man. That's as

2057
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 2: his followers to tell you.

2058
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,880
Speaker 3: Man. You know, Bernie is the one who actually.

2059
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 2: Told Richard Pryce jokes were good, but he need to

2060
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 2: start saying nigger more.

2061
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:44,479
Speaker 3: Bernie so black.

2062
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,760
Speaker 1: Berndie is so black. He told Edim Murphy to wear

2063
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:49,800
Speaker 1: that red lither suit.

2064
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 3: He was like, you know what'll make this better, Bernie,

2065
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 3: You start talking about these gay people and put on

2066
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 3: some tight leather man, be hot in these streets.

2067
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually gave Eddie Murphy the mister t impression.

2068
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 2: That's his impression. That's already, that's not Eddie Murphy's impression.

2069
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's Bernie's all right man.

2070
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 3: Let's uh. But yeah, he doesn't talk about.

2071
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: Race, man, And we talked about it on the show before.

2072
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 2: And this is gonna be a big ass problem from him,

2073
01:44:20,360 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 2: because no, black people are not going away.

2074
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: One of the black these other groups either one of the.

2075
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter. The co founder said, uh, she won

2076
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: presidents candidates. We will shut down every single debate and yo,

2077
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 2: people start doing that. But we on the same side,

2078
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,479
Speaker 2: I mean we allied, so like, why would you come

2079
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,640
Speaker 2: and do this? First of all, I don't know if

2080
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,920
Speaker 2: we are on the same side on the ship because

2081
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 2: you won't talk about it right. We could not be

2082
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 2: on the same side. We might not be on the

2083
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 2: same side. I don't know because you won't talk about

2084
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 2: it right.

2085
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,280
Speaker 1: What are feelings? What are your views? What are you

2086
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: How do you feel about policies? And right?

2087
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 4: And and the thing is for a lot of Democrats

2088
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 4: and no, I will continue to say this, they are

2089
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 4: not used to black people demanding that they should be heard.

2090
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 4: They are not used to black people coming up in there,

2091
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:10,160
Speaker 4: but like, hey, dog, I got a motherfucking voice, you're

2092
01:45:10,240 --> 01:45:10,840
Speaker 4: gonna hear me.

2093
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about?

2094
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 3: You know what?

2095
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 1: This is one time where what about the kids in

2096
01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:16,280
Speaker 1: the Chicago goddamn matter?

2097
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:17,559
Speaker 3: What about the kids in Chicago?

2098
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: Motherfucker? Right?

2099
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 3: Are we gonna address these looking kids?

2100
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 1: And you keep bringing up every time I talk about

2101
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 1: motherfucking race?

2102
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,280
Speaker 3: Right, where was it?

2103
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I just want to know what their opinions are, because

2104
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 2: it's not even a matter of whether or not we're

2105
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 2: gonna agree on everything, because I guarantee once they start talking,

2106
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 2: there's gonna be plenty of shit that people are like, oh,

2107
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,719
Speaker 2: I don't agree with that, you know, because black people

2108
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:40,839
Speaker 2: are on the monolift anyway.

2109
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 3: No, what, you don't even have the courage to talk

2110
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,439
Speaker 3: about it. I know you don't have the courage to

2111
01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 3: address it.

2112
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,000
Speaker 2: Cracks, And that's really where people are coming from, like

2113
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 2: you can't hit us with that.

2114
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 3: Oh nah, it's not that I'm.

2115
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 2: Any anti anything blackness, It's just that I don't want

2116
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:57,639
Speaker 2: to talk about it at all ever.

2117
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 3: So wait, you're gonna get elected.

2118
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna talk about it, because then I

2119
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 2: actually have zero political capital. You don't even want my

2120
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 2: vote anymore. At that point, you got my vote, You're

2121
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:10,479
Speaker 2: in office.

2122
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 3: What the fuck? What do I have to hold your

2123
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 3: feet to the fire at.

2124
01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: This point, nothing? And so you need to hold them accountable.

2125
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: I can't wait.

2126
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 4: Honestly, it's gonna be some you know, a lot of

2127
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,080
Speaker 4: times I didn't think I was gonna be excited, But

2128
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be motherfucker excited when people start going to

2129
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:28,639
Speaker 4: these little town meetings in the middle of a two

2130
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,560
Speaker 4: buck uh fucking nowhere month fuck nowhere, and and and

2131
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 4: stop traveling around the country and showing up and people

2132
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,560
Speaker 4: with their Black Lives Matters T shirts and size and

2133
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:41,600
Speaker 4: posters and and people you know asking them you know,

2134
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 4: and open it up. And it would't surprise me. And

2135
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 4: pretty so if after they travel for a while, but

2136
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 4: I know, questions from the from the audience, because we're

2137
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 4: gonna start asking them questions.

2138
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, doll uh, I'm.

2139
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 3: Like this, And honestly, man, I want a Black Lives matter.

2140
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 2: My new thing is I want a Black Lives matter

2141
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 2: question to make it into a debate, and not just

2142
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 2: because a person in the audience asked, but like a

2143
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 2: TV televised debate, and.

2144
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:11,880
Speaker 4: You know what, I know, I know this was a joke,

2145
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 4: but yesterday we watched the soup, and the soup acts

2146
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 4: like two of the people running for like miss USA,

2147
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 4: miss America.

2148
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: One of them.

2149
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,840
Speaker 4: Questions those questions was fucking harder than the candidates get

2150
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 4: when they're running for election.

2151
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean, yeah, well the black shit, right,

2152
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 2: but yeah, asked. I want to see those questions, asked.

2153
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 2: I want to see them as two. I want to

2154
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 2: see what they say because that matters. This is definitely

2155
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna matter for my vote.

2156
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 1: Who gets it me too, It matters. I'm not throwing

2157
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 1: it down the drain. I votes count two.

2158
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 4: And for some reason people think I votes and minorities

2159
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 4: and Latinos and lgbt q's just because.

2160
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: We're all Democrat. We're all on the same party.

2161
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 4: And it's one of those things when when some of

2162
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 4: the party be like, hey, y'all not talk about my issues,

2163
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,559
Speaker 4: here come the other ones that don't fuck about your issues.

2164
01:47:58,600 --> 01:47:59,880
Speaker 1: They want you to shut the fuck up.

2165
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 2: And also highlights how well President Obama's handled that shit,

2166
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: because it's not like people haven't headckled and protests to him.

2167
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 2: You know, for six years now, and he's always been

2168
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 2: kind of like, all right, let's try to calm this down.

2169
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 3: Let's can we talk after the event. I am gonna

2170
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 3: get to your issue. Apparently Bernie Sanders walked out, and

2171
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 3: that's not very presidential.

2172
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 4: Not only that, and not only blacks. What about these

2173
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 4: motherfucker LGBTQ people who have been cutting the fucking food

2174
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,639
Speaker 4: on the president? What happened if you get a president

2175
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 4: that don't did I not there for your calls?

2176
01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2177
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 2: I mean everybody's calls who has been super served by

2178
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 2: this president.

2179
01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: I expect this to be the tenor a right, So y'all.

2180
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,519
Speaker 4: Better start asking these people, Hey, are y'all gonna talk

2181
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 4: about my issues too? Start protesting the same way, y'all

2182
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Speaker 4: the same standards that people complain about President Obama.

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Speaker 1: I want them to have the same standards for whoever.

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Speaker 4: Running because it does matter, because you can't put these

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01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 4: on here because if we will see who are these

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01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 4: people that were I'm hoddle with Obama because he's black

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01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 4: and the people that was.

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01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm hard on everybody.

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01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 4: Because the light's gonna shine because I don't care what

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01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:16,000
Speaker 4: nobody says.

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01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Some people was just hard because it was a nigga

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Speaker 1: in office.

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01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

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01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Patrise Colors, I hope that's I'm saying their

2195
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 2: name right, criticized both Senator Bernie Senators and ex Maryland

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01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:33,520
Speaker 2: Governor Martin O'Malley after Saturday's protests at Netroots, the Netrows

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01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Nation and Progressive Conference. He couldn't take fifteen minutes more

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01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:40,440
Speaker 2: of fifteen more minutes of heat, Color said of Sanders

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Speaker 2: in an interview on This Week in Blackness. Oh yeah,

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01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: it was rolling deep uh huh, making a reference to

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Speaker 2: the Senator ending his appearance as demonstrators at the event

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01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:57,799
Speaker 2: walked out in mass uh. Journalists and activists Jose Antonio Vargas,

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01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 2: who interview both Democratic candidates during the form, told The

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01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 2: Raw Story that he was directed to wrap up his

2205
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 2: discussion with Saunders fifteen minutes ahead of schedule.

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01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 1: Fifteen old, goddamn minutes.

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01:50:10,680 --> 01:50:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 2: They basically told him, yeah, this is uncomfortable. Now, we

2209
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 2: don't want to talk about race. Can you get him

2210
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 2: out of here a little early? Wat ifu you go

2211
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:22,760
Speaker 2: to net Roots, Colors told his I mean told This

2212
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: Week's host el Joy Williams, political strategist, that she felt

2213
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 2: neither O'Malley nor Sanders were humble enough during their town

2214
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 2: hall appearance and called out called on presidential candidates to

2215
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 2: be willing to openly discuss the issues of race and gender.

2216
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 2: No more skirting around the issues. Color said, we will

2217
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 2: shut down every single debate. The protests began during O'Malley's

2218
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 2: interview with Vargus, with demonstrated jeering when O'Malley used the

2219
01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:58,679
Speaker 2: phrases the phrase every life matters and white lives matter.

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01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:06,040
Speaker 1: Nigga. Oh no he didn't. Oh that's a no, no

2221
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 1: out of net roots nation. Did anybody tell him what

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01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: he was?

2223
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 2: No?

2224
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't think nobody gave him the memo. Like, I'm

2225
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:19,000
Speaker 4: not trying to be funny. I think he walked in

2226
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 4: there and they was like, here's what you gotta talk about.

2227
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,759
Speaker 4: Nobody really told.

2228
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Him where he was.

2229
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:26,759
Speaker 3: I'm know the record scratch from that shit happened.

2230
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Right, They was like, Okay, I can deal with all uys.

2231
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 1: What I didn't realize you was in a room full

2232
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 1: of madority black folks.

2233
01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:36,400
Speaker 7: Right.

2234
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:40,559
Speaker 2: While responding to a question calling on him to demonstrate

2235
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,519
Speaker 2: an action plan for how he would address police bolence

2236
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:48,080
Speaker 2: if elected. The response interrupted the former governor, after he

2237
01:51:48,120 --> 01:51:49,840
Speaker 2: said he would push for police to be required to

2238
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:53,120
Speaker 2: report every officer in shooting. Later, he told rour Story

2239
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 2: that he would also wrap up the use of body

2240
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 2: cameras by officers, and would also ensure the departments be

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01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 2: more inclusive of communities of color and the recruiting process.

2242
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 2: I think these are all things that our federal government

2243
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: can help us lead at us also encourage, he said,

2244
01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:08,760
Speaker 2: followed the meeting with immigration activists later in the day,

2245
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 2: perhaps even providing a framework for police departments to cross

2246
01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 2: designate prosecutors from other jurisdictions.

2247
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 3: Would the judgment colonies be made on police involved shooting?

2248
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 4: I have a question, does he have nobody black on

2249
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 4: his staff or nobody is just connected to any form

2250
01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 4: of blackness?

2251
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: Then it gotta be black, but just aware of black culture.

2252
01:52:28,240 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 1: Where could you imagine.

2253
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,759
Speaker 3: He said that book they need to book this conference?

2254
01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 6: Right?

2255
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,800
Speaker 3: That didn't know somebody black to do that?

2256
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: Could you imagine the gas in the rule? He said that,

2257
01:52:37,160 --> 01:52:38,759
Speaker 1: and it was like, oh, like a like a comedian

2258
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: old shit. I think I fucked up.

2259
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 3: Maybe you know what it is.

2260
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 2: I think Elon does a lot of work with that

2261
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 2: rougination and the media stuff. Maybe he talked to Elon

2262
01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:52,719
Speaker 2: on the phone and maybe he just thought Elon didn't.

2263
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 1: Sound black, Elon does type of his name white.

2264
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just he said his name is Elon James

2265
01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 2: White h and he's it doesn't stay niggas ration, you know,

2266
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: like he said. Net Roots Nation probably just was like, okay, yeah, sure,

2267
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 2: I'll go out and talk to Elon James White. You know,

2268
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 2: Elon probably said he was a member of TWIB instead

2269
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: of this Week in Blackness, right, So he probably showed

2270
01:53:17,160 --> 01:53:19,360
Speaker 2: up and it was very surprised.

2271
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 3: So I didn't prepare for any of these questions.

2272
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:24,519
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for this, looking at his team, pissed

2273
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 1: because y'all didn't prepare him.

2274
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,840
Speaker 2: The protest continued during Sander's appearance, which with one woman

2275
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 2: standing on a chair and using the hashtag if I

2276
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 2: die in police custody tag, which has spread in the

2277
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,280
Speaker 2: wake of the deaths of Kendrid Chapman and Sondra Bland.

2278
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 2: If if I died in police custody, I want Bernie

2279
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 2: Sanders to say my names, she said.

2280
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 3: It's seen in the picture below.

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01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:50,920
Speaker 2: Colors and other protesters also said called uh the senator,

2282
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 2: calling and Senator to deal with anti blackness instead of

2283
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,080
Speaker 2: focusing this speech on economic measures.

2284
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 3: Black lives of course matter.

2285
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: Sentator said at one point, but I spent fifty years

2286
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 2: of my life fighting for civil rights.

2287
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 3: And if you don't want me to be here, that's okay.

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01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Oh why would you say that.

2289
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 2: That's like when people go, I'm trying to be your

2290
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 2: ally whenever they say something fucked up, and you're like,

2291
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 2: hey man, that's fucked up, and they're like, well, if

2292
01:54:17,960 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 2: you don't want white allies, then you can just.

2293
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:21,920
Speaker 3: Believe it in blue blue right.

2294
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:27,000
Speaker 4: And that's where that distrust comes in because peoples like, bitch,

2295
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 4: it ain't a privilege for you to be here. You

2296
01:54:29,960 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 4: ought to be here because you are a decent human being,

2297
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 4: and you goddamn care, not because you fucking want to

2298
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 4: throw me a cookie and be like, nigga, be glad

2299
01:54:37,280 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 4: I care about your black ass.

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01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:42,160
Speaker 2: And then Bernie turned to the audience and said, by

2301
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,880
Speaker 2: Felicia hashtag Bernie so black.

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 3: He didn't do that, uh, but following the color.

2303
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Burned that bitch down that football attack of him. They

2304
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't have made it out that bitch him on his team.

2305
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 3: He turned to the artist and said now watch Whip

2306
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:05,760
Speaker 3: and then hashtag bringing so Black. But following the.

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01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:10,080
Speaker 2: Event, Colors said, senators and other presidential hofles need to

2308
01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 2: make black communities feel like they're not being sold something

2309
01:55:14,440 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 2: and if you want our vote, you're gonna have to

2310
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:17,120
Speaker 2: do way more work.

2311
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 3: She said, right, right, at least some homework.

2312
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 4: Right, And like I said, it's gonna be one of

2313
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 4: those things where people have followed the formula and President

2314
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:29,760
Speaker 4: Obama was like that formative don't work.

2315
01:55:29,880 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: This is how the formula works, and people just gonna no, no, no, We're.

2316
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 4: Gonna do what we always did is dance around these

2317
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,880
Speaker 4: issues and not address shit, and we're gonna get them

2318
01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 4: black votes and you know, for the first time. Oh

2319
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 4: and something else. Also, this shows you the power of

2320
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 4: social media because you know what, they didn't say Terray

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01:55:52,120 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 4: and they didn't say Netta, So that shows you that

2322
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 4: there are other groups that are organizing that go out

2323
01:55:58,200 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 4: and do this shit what.

2324
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:00,360
Speaker 3: Has always been right.

2325
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 4: But that's the fear of is that now we don't

2326
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 4: have a quote unquote leader, because that's why a lot

2327
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 4: of people are really hard on MLK and this one leader,

2328
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 4: because they feel like if you take the hand down,

2329
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 4: you destroy the body. But what they fail to realize

2330
01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,520
Speaker 4: is that there are different bodies and that that takes

2331
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 4: people for loop because they feel like, well.

2332
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're gonna show up, and I

2333
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 1: don't know where they're gonna come from.

2334
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 4: And and you know, with Nedda and Durray having these names,

2335
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 4: a lot of people feel like well, almost like almost

2336
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 4: pushing them to that place when there's other people doing

2337
01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 4: just as much work and maybe even doing more work

2338
01:56:32,160 --> 01:56:35,280
Speaker 4: than might not be as known as them that are like.

2339
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: No, motherfucker, we're gonna disrupt it too.

2340
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 4: You better our issues matter also, And I think that

2341
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:44,800
Speaker 4: they're not gonna know how to handle this when the

2342
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 4: people that you think are gonna be protesting, it's almost

2343
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,320
Speaker 4: like you don't know where it's coming from, you know,

2344
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 4: almost like undercover per se, and people are gonna being

2345
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 4: painted because it's like, well.

2346
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know who the fuck.

2347
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 4: They all look the same, of course, just like y'all

2348
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 4: all look the same when the police get shot. I mean,

2349
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 4: when when the police shoots a black person, the police

2350
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:02,840
Speaker 4: also the same to us.

2351
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they better start learn how to listen, you

2352
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:10,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It ain't that hard hire some people, right, do.

2353
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:12,840
Speaker 1: Your motherfucking research on us.

2354
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 2: You can't show up to a fucking black conference with

2355
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 2: not not even want to talk about race.

2356
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 3: It's just so disrespectful. And you wouldn't do that with

2357
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:22,480
Speaker 3: any other demographic, right.

2358
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:25,840
Speaker 2: You wouldn't show it to an LGBTQ conference talking about

2359
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:29,560
Speaker 2: something well, it's really not about gender equalities, just you know,

2360
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:30,840
Speaker 2: everyone should have equal rights.

2361
01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,320
Speaker 3: You'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about again? Right,

2362
01:57:33,400 --> 01:57:34,240
Speaker 3: but that's talking about check.

2363
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 2: They wouldn't sell people a cake because they were getting

2364
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 2: gay Mary, not because they weren't getting equally marry motherfucker.

2365
01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:42,000
Speaker 3: It's okay to say the word right.

2366
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 4: And that's just like, let's say you went to a

2367
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 4: feminist conference and you basically basically told all the women

2368
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 4: in the house bitch as y'all better be God, I'm here,

2369
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 4: Jase abound. All these people would have had a fucking

2370
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 4: fit and had articles and need to been posted everywhere.

2371
01:57:55,320 --> 01:57:57,600
Speaker 4: But because you did it at net rooms, nobody gives

2372
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,200
Speaker 4: a fuck. But it matters to us. It's like it

2373
01:57:59,280 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 4: matters to them.

2374
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to.

2375
01:58:01,800 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Even if you lie in you know what I'm saying,

2376
01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,240
Speaker 2: Even if it's a lie, you at least have to

2377
01:58:06,320 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 2: pandered like that's the least amount of respect you can have.

2378
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 2: Hopefully you're not lying, but the fact that you didn't

2379
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 2: even come with no lies ready, you gotta have your

2380
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 2: lives on fleek. By the way, Elizabeth Warren was there.

2381
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:20,640
Speaker 2: She's also a wonderful president, and she gave a speech.

2382
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 9: And I want to make one more point, one more

2383
01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:29,560
Speaker 9: very important point. Progressives believe that it shouldn't take a

2384
01:58:29,680 --> 01:58:34,400
Speaker 9: revolution on YouTube to drive a revolution in law enforcement.

2385
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:35,720
Speaker 1: It shouldn't take a.

2386
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,120
Speaker 9: Hurricane in New Orleans or a massacre in Charleston for

2387
01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,360
Speaker 9: Americans to wake up to what is happening, what is

2388
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 9: still happening to people of color in this country. And

2389
01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 9: it sure as heck shouldn't take poll numbers to unite

2390
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:06,720
Speaker 9: us in our determination to build a future for all

2391
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 9: of our children.

2392
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 1: That's right now.

2393
01:59:13,440 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 9: Look House, Republicans may still want to fly the Confederate flag,

2394
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:23,600
Speaker 9: and Republican leaders make power in the shadow of Donald Trump,

2395
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:28,480
Speaker 9: but the American people understand that black lives matter and

2396
01:59:28,600 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 9: America is not a country that stands for racism.

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Speaker 1: Big a tree or a wow.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeplizabeth Bonne try to get this work right.

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Speaker 9: This is a moral issue and a economic issue. To

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Speaker 9: build an economy that creates real opportunity, that doesn't lock

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Speaker 9: up millions of our fellow human beings behind bars, and

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Speaker 9: that uses the talents of.

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Speaker 1: All our people.

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Speaker 9: America must true that on a quality and justice the

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Speaker 9: American people are progressive.

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Speaker 1: To running issue, said she running.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I was done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be better.

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Speaker 4: Be careful because I'm not trying to be funny the person,

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Speaker 4: especially when it comes to black people, the person who

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Speaker 4: uh speaks on black issues and really starts addressing them

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Speaker 4: like folks won't be shocked. Like that's who's gonna get

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Speaker 4: a lot of people votes, because, like I said, people

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Speaker 4: ain't gonna take that tiptoe and dancing around bullshit.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like you say, you you.

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Speaker 4: Talk about somebody criticizing them, they're getting bashed on social media.

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Speaker 4: People gonna like, I wouldn't fucking vote for you if

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Speaker 4: you have that type of fan of of a of

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Speaker 4: a base.

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Speaker 3: So Elizabeth Warren didn't have a problem playing.

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Speaker 2: She sure didn't did anything happen in e Lizabeth Warren,

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Speaker 2: you know, dropping the polls and this her is that

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Speaker 2: campaign officially over.

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Speaker 3: She's taking her hat out the room.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the big boogeyman is,

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Speaker 2: because I understand what's so controversial about that. You know,

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Speaker 2: I hope fucking pose leap. I wish somebody polled me

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Speaker 2: coming out the gunchery store. Take five of the Mother.

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Speaker 2: It's like Elizabeth Warn, Elizabeth Warren, Elizabeth Warren.

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Speaker 3: battle of alert. I know that's what people really came for,

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Speaker 3: and we have it going off for some time over

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Speaker 3: some other ship looking at start talking about.

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Speaker 5: Got in here, gona twelve bars, Gucci man.

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Speaker 1: Got nine call We don't call him down no more

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Speaker 1: on nine.

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Speaker 5: We got him five star nigger.

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Speaker 2: nine that's a dude f sick get a half feet

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Speaker 2: might even pay all right.

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Speaker 5: a joy sae.

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Speaker 2: don't be Just know if you win at lant I

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Speaker 2: call up Gutia girl.

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Speaker 5: That beat you.

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Speaker 3: We can find a five star hotel.

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Speaker 2: You can just pasta pinch him a pistoi pista.

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Speaker 5: That's a five star.

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Speaker 3: Get your beaded fat hot beating this state, fly your

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Speaker 3: juice box.

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Speaker 5: Rent ain't your head something fly? You will five star?

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Speaker 3: minute ratchet sex is like?

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Speaker 2: five s the chick who like text you, I'm a

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Speaker 2: blessed what a five?

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Speaker 1: Because that's all that. I don't see another number.

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Speaker 2: It's all for rup of tails want to know what

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Speaker 2: fifteen minute ratchet sex is like?

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Speaker 3: And for the record, Lizard Warren says she's not running.

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Speaker 2: But come on, come on, don we'll see Lizabeth. Better

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Speaker 2: get out here, get this work, get this vote. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to tell you better, come get this vote.

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Speaker 3: I ain't waiting on you. Sure is he talking about

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Speaker 3: Black Lives matter?

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Speaker 4: Girl?

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Speaker 2: Mm m mmmm another wait in my heart? Anyway, Group

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Speaker 2: of tails want to know what fifteen minutes ratchet sex

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Speaker 2: is like. Since it's Friday, I figured I would drop

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Speaker 2: tell is a nineties rap group Do or Die from Chicago?

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Speaker 1: What who the hell's and do A Die?

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Speaker 3: Do a Die?

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Speaker 1: Hold on, let me go come up saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who there that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna look up some of the ship. Oh yeah, pope, himp,

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Speaker 2: this is a day song.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to ride?

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Speaker 5: And if I see you.

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Speaker 3: Wanna shopping up?

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Speaker 2: Steven wle l p am playing out to the house

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Speaker 2: and the pig and sip see showing on the weas

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Speaker 2: to him touching on my.

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Speaker 3: Phone and moving to the back.

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Speaker 5: Second scene who beating the pope and free.

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Speaker 1: To the phone with the slow lamb.

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Speaker 2: With three one two six, two weeks three line connection

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Speaker 2: shot one.

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Speaker 6: Of the.

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Speaker 5: Get and plus we strapped to protection.

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Speaker 2: I put the phone in the minute over the gut

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Speaker 2: when I'm at the house and another guy on the

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Speaker 2: snap I straight up checked.

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Speaker 3: Out right, all right? All right? So that's do Die.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's see and the group responsible for introducing us

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Speaker 2: to the likes of Twister and Johnny p Well. If

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Speaker 2: you want to know how your mom's generation of the

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Speaker 3: Ball alert dot com. Have you ever been sex down

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Speaker 3: in a ratchet manner?

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Speaker 2: Within fifteen minutes, this group of tail is about a

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Speaker 2: rapper bellow picture far right of door die all right,

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Speaker 2: so let me put the picture in the chat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see what it looks like the far

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Speaker 3: right guys, that's the guy who she's talking about.

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Speaker 2: I've been conversing with Bello for a few weeks now

2541
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Speaker 2: since meeting him at one of door Dods concerts. Oh wait,

2542
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 2: I have been conversing with Bello for a few weeks

2543
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 2: now since meeting him at one of door Dode concerts

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Speaker 2: last month. He was supposed to help me with singing

2545
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Speaker 2: with my singing career, but has been procrastinating after a

2546
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Speaker 2: few weeks of conversing with him.

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Speaker 3: Was they wearing converses together? Last night?

2548
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:27,960
Speaker 2: I decided to see what a forty year old dude,

2549
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:31,200
Speaker 2: what a forty old dick gang was like and if

2550
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Speaker 2: it's smoothed like his voice?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, game.

2552
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Speaker 2: It's not like the forty old version, but like the

2553
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:41,920
Speaker 2: opposite version. Fortio dick gang.

2554
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Speaker 1: I guess, she said, guess how much this old man.

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Speaker 2: When he whipped it out, it was a It was

2556
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 2: a third leg and thicker than a light pole. Well,

2557
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:52,480
Speaker 2: think of than that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was about to say, I don't

2559
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 1: think it's thinking of like pole. Honey, it was a

2560
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Speaker 1: tab bit.

2561
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:00,480
Speaker 2: I was a tad bit scared because it was looked right.

2562
02:08:00,600 --> 02:08:02,640
Speaker 2: It was rock solid, hard like concrete.

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02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:05,480
Speaker 3: Naturally, he won their head. But my mouth couldn't wrap

2564
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 3: around nothing but the tip.

2565
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,680
Speaker 2: But I got one of the inches in my mouth,

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02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,080
Speaker 2: and he was taking talking so much noise that I

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02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,040
Speaker 2: accidentally let him nothing in my mouth, and he made.

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Speaker 3: The weirdest noises. While nothing, you don't say, well do

2569
02:08:20,200 --> 02:08:21,320
Speaker 3: you think the noises sound like?

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Speaker 1: Who knows?

2571
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:29,280
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good. I was sticking that's a good one. Anyway,

2572
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:32,240
Speaker 3: his old ass flipped me over and shoved his dick

2573
02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 3: in my vagina. Now why did she say vagina? Anyway,

2574
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:41,120
Speaker 3: she wanted to get technical down her. She called him old.

2575
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:45,840
Speaker 3: He was saying years old. He was saying, take this

2576
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Speaker 3: dick like.

2577
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Speaker 1: A bottom bitch, Oh ship, not the bottom one.

2578
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,800
Speaker 2: I guess she did want to ride on the back

2579
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:55,160
Speaker 2: citty of Caddy. It was so good but hurt so bad.

2580
02:08:55,600 --> 02:08:58,480
Speaker 2: He loves switching positions and won't kiss while shoving that

2581
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 2: leg in you. But when he started hitting it from behind, wait, I.

2582
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Speaker 3: Thought he already was. He flipped you over? Okay, all right?

2583
02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 3: When he started hitting it from behind, it felt like

2584
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:11,520
Speaker 3: a car accident was happening.

2585
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Speaker 1: Oh Lord.

2586
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 3: For an older man, his sex.

2587
02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:16,960
Speaker 2: Game is ratchet, but hella good. When he was done,

2588
02:09:17,000 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 2: he went to shower and flushed the condle. I thought

2589
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 2: he would wipe me up, but that didn't happen.

2590
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:25,880
Speaker 1: He ain't give you that, I say.

2591
02:09:26,640 --> 02:09:30,480
Speaker 3: I laid that waiting, but he never said another word. Damn.

2592
02:09:31,240 --> 02:09:33,440
Speaker 3: I could barely walk afterwards, but I would.

2593
02:09:33,240 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 2: Do it again and again and again for the amount

2594
02:09:35,720 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 2: of nuts I experienced last night. So I thought he

2595
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:41,200
Speaker 2: was gonna let me spend the night. But when I

2596
02:09:41,360 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 2: was faking like I was getting dressed, he was like.

2597
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Speaker 3: Be safe out there, bitch it it's time for you

2598
02:09:47,280 --> 02:09:47,440
Speaker 3: to go.

2599
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Speaker 1: Oh God.

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02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 2: Then his phone run and it must have been his

2601
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:57,440
Speaker 2: girlfriend because he threw that hush finger that was talking

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02:09:57,480 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 2: all sweet to her. He set his phone down at

2603
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Speaker 2: her me by and I looked him I looked down

2604
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 2: at the number and called the chick.

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02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:07,680
Speaker 3: While I was waiting on the al Damn, she called

2606
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 3: his girlfriend.

2607
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:11,320
Speaker 2: I was too mad to ask him for a ride

2608
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:13,760
Speaker 2: back to Hide Park, so I called the girl and

2609
02:10:13,880 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 2: she wouldn't talk to me about him.

2610
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 3: I bet she is fat. That's just me. I guess

2611
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 3: he has her train.

2612
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:20,960
Speaker 6: Well.

2613
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:25,080
Speaker 3: Oh well, I enjoyed my ratchet experience compared to other rappers.

2614
02:10:25,600 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 2: Oh V says, dadd at, be safe out there with

2615
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:31,120
Speaker 2: your dumb, broke ass lave my ass off.

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02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, was she supposed to get money from

2617
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Speaker 3: a dude in old Die? I mean, do he have money?

2618
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Speaker 7: Come on?

2619
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Speaker 3: Shechelle Yuziel says, shaking my head and lab my ass off.

2620
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Speaker 2: Dj Ak don Waan says, has be safe out there.

2621
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Speaker 2: Brie says, damn eleven out here making me feel old

2622
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Speaker 2: as fuck?

2623
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Speaker 3: That what wanted that?

2624
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Speaker 2: Want to know whoop your mama mess with? Lab my

2625
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Speaker 2: ass off? Oh, want to know who your mama messed?

2626
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Speaker 1: Well?

2627
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Speaker 3: Okay, uh, miss you can never get enough, says hell No.

2628
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Speaker 2: Chucko says crazy and Sweetness says, laughing my ass off

2629
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Speaker 2: at I bet she's fat. Uh Now I gotta go

2630
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Speaker 2: like a fine fire star, So I can uh play

2631
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Speaker 2: us out. Start with Google training to feed up on

2632
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Speaker 2: the these holes doing shows in the recession the car,

2633
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Speaker 2: get the climb out.

2634
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:28,880
Speaker 3: And suffering another prescious why.

2635
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Speaker 1: You're spending meals down there?

2636
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Speaker 3: All kinds of deals on the five.

2637
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Speaker 1: Star bitch eating five star meals.

2638
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Speaker 2: My whole munch style like coming to America all my

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Speaker 2: little weis legend. See my bad are walking through the

2640
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Speaker 2: airport like I'm in the parade on my hollow ground,

2641
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Speaker 2: logging on the East trade.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's time for guess the race time.

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Speaker 6: Guys, Now that is time for some guess the race.

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Speaker 6: That's right, this guest the race time. Now, that is

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Speaker 6: time for some guests the race. That's right, his guest

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Speaker 6: the race time.

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Speaker 3: That's right. It's time for guests the race the number

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Speaker 3: one game.

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Speaker 2: So going across all the podcasts, man, we read a

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Speaker 2: played newsagas from all over the globe, and we asked

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Speaker 2: how I can test it today the chat room to

2652
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Speaker 2: guess the race, and the chat room is horacist.

2653
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 3: Yes they are all right. Here is a story. Number one.

2654
02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:32,640
Speaker 7: They were experts at hopin' car thefts. They'd still a purse,

2655
02:12:32,920 --> 02:12:36,440
Speaker 7: cell phone computer, or even the whole car when unsuspecting

2656
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Speaker 7: drivers weren't paying attention.

2657
02:12:38,320 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 8: Keep in mind you could have to recurring one day

2658
02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:41,720
Speaker 8: and then nothing for a week.

2659
02:12:42,080 --> 02:12:44,440
Speaker 7: This car theft ring of more than a dozen people

2660
02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 7: operated mostly in Prince George's County since two thousand and nine.

2661
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:51,280
Speaker 8: We're essentially running their own little crime school where they

2662
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:53,520
Speaker 8: would discuss with each other what they were doing, what

2663
02:12:53,680 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 8: worked and what didn't, and talk about the schemes they

2664
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:56,120
Speaker 8: had in mind.

2665
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:59,160
Speaker 7: This morning, FBI agents stormed the homes of twelve people

2666
02:12:59,240 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 7: believed to be members of the alleged ring, known as

2667
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:05,680
Speaker 7: the Simple City Criminal Organization. Most members lived in Southeast DC,

2668
02:13:06,040 --> 02:13:09,040
Speaker 7: but are believed responsible for the majority of car thefts

2669
02:13:09,280 --> 02:13:11,680
Speaker 7: and many ID thefts and Prince George's for the past

2670
02:13:11,760 --> 02:13:15,240
Speaker 7: six years. They also operated in Montgomery County in DC.

2671
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,480
Speaker 8: There were members who would go out and steal the cars,

2672
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:22,240
Speaker 8: the purses and wallets, smartphones, and tablet computers. There were

2673
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:26,160
Speaker 8: other members to whom they would sell or transfer the

2674
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 8: stolen access devices, credit cards, and ATM cards.

2675
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:32,080
Speaker 7: Prince George's County police say it was not immediately clear

2676
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 7: they were dealing with an entire ring when the crimes began.

2677
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 3: Once we realized that this might be bigger than what

2678
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:39,040
Speaker 3: it was.

2679
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:41,200
Speaker 5: Now you have to start connecting the pieces.

2680
02:13:41,320 --> 02:13:43,520
Speaker 7: Once police were aware of the complication of the ring,

2681
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 7: they partnered with the FBI, who then monitored the group's

2682
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:49,920
Speaker 7: movements and communication on cell phones and social media.

2683
02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:52,400
Speaker 8: In all long term investigations, you reach a point where

2684
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Speaker 8: you recognize you might generate more evidence if you continued.

2685
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Speaker 8: On the other hand, you're going to stop these groups

2686
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Speaker 8: as quickly as possible to stop other people from being.

2687
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Speaker 3: All right, guys, hold on, let me talk about volume.

2688
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Speaker 3: Back down. I guess the race of the people in

2689
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Speaker 3: this ring.

2690
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 2: Now, I don't believe they told you, guys, any of

2691
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:19,040
Speaker 2: the names, so I would go down the list of names.

2692
02:14:19,080 --> 02:14:24,720
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, Jeff frou Cruz Fro is his nickname, f

2693
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Speaker 3: r o.

2694
02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 2: Quasi, Critch Low, Earl, Frank Ferguson, Lamont, Ticket Stacks, Henson, Stepan,

2695
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Speaker 2: Steph Lover, Janey, Michael Mikey.

2696
02:14:41,520 --> 02:14:45,120
Speaker 3: Prince Sylvia, D's Nuts.

2697
02:14:45,240 --> 02:14:52,360
Speaker 2: Prince Sylvia is the oldest, Sylvia's forty nine, second oldest, Jessica,

2698
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:56,280
Speaker 2: Jazz Rubio and Shatte Boots Tucker.

2699
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Speaker 3: That's the race. Child the race. Bernie Sanders became at

2700
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Speaker 3: the marching with dark.

2701
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Speaker 2: Kool Aid mixing Ninjas PG County we all black hair

2702
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Speaker 2: Black Southeast DC black as fizznook. Southeast DC is a

2703
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Speaker 2: natural habitat of porch promeinx se turning white HC. The

2704
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Speaker 2: class reunion of Rachel Dozu's Dream got them black, the

2705
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Speaker 2: hotel hold up game, our cousin.

2706
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Speaker 3: These are the blackest names I've ever heard in my life, Jada.

2707
02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 2: Jada said, blackest little featherly reunion with a fish fry

2708
02:15:42,920 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 2: and watermelon the fourth of July?

2709
02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:47,480
Speaker 3: Is this a trick? Black? Says Charlotte.

2710
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Speaker 2: Members of the Ashy Dick h shit Hotel Twitter h

2711
02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:52,880
Speaker 2: the correct essa is black black.

2712
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Speaker 3: I don't even have all.

2713
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Speaker 2: Their pictures to put in the chat, but trust me,

2714
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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like you guys understand.

2715
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Speaker 3: Was my favorite? Is Sylvia D's nuts right for a nickname?

2716
02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 3: These nuts?

2717
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Speaker 1: Twitter handle.

2718
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Speaker 3: Let's go to the bonus round because we've been going

2719
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2720
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Speaker 2: So far, everybody's one for one. I can't imagine what

2723
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Speaker 2: missed that last one. But let's see how they continue

2724
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2764
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Speaker 3: Now, this case, we're gonna guess the raser. The person

2765
02:18:49,480 --> 02:18:50,080
Speaker 3: that got arrested.

2766
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,600
Speaker 2: Since Monday Offend, the number nine nine five two zero

2767
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:55,880
Speaker 2: zero has been confined to a sell m ten in

2768
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:59,400
Speaker 2: the medical unit of Polk County Jail as officials have

2769
02:18:59,560 --> 02:19:01,800
Speaker 2: tried to figure out what to do with her. That's

2770
02:19:01,840 --> 02:19:03,960
Speaker 2: not because she's ill, or violent or charged with a

2771
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:06,640
Speaker 2: big crime. She is none of those things. It's because

2772
02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:10,040
Speaker 2: she has breast and a penis. Her gender nine conformity

2773
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:13,560
Speaker 2: is also what prompted people someone to call police on her.

2774
02:19:14,360 --> 02:19:17,080
Speaker 2: In the same week that Caitlyn Jenner was honored in

2775
02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:19,440
Speaker 2: Los Angeles with a Courage Award for being open about

2776
02:19:19,440 --> 02:19:24,240
Speaker 2: her gender transformation, Meghan Taylor was jailed after attracting unwanted

2777
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:27,600
Speaker 2: attention for hers. Taylor isn't her legal name, but her

2778
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:29,800
Speaker 2: chosen one. She's twenty two from Illinois, works in the

2779
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:31,880
Speaker 2: beauty Salona, goes to castology school.

2780
02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:34,720
Speaker 3: She has a man of long black hair.

2781
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:37,520
Speaker 2: Cascading down her back, top by a layer of bright

2782
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:40,960
Speaker 2: red and long manicured nils. She takes hormones and plans

2783
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 2: at gendery assignment surgery. She was visiting des Moin with

2784
02:19:44,440 --> 02:19:47,000
Speaker 2: a friend who was also transgender. They were staying at

2785
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:49,680
Speaker 2: a hotel in wester den moy when Taylor noticed the

2786
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:51,680
Speaker 2: staff acting really funny around them.

2787
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,520
Speaker 3: Then police showed up at that hotel room shit.

2788
02:19:56,600 --> 02:19:59,360
Speaker 2: Wester de Moyn Police reported that they were notified about

2789
02:19:59,440 --> 02:20:03,320
Speaker 2: two man dressed as females who checked into the jury

2790
02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:07,279
Speaker 2: ind and that staff was worried about possible prostitution activity,

2791
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:11,160
Speaker 2: so when officer went to the hotel room, and though

2792
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 2: no prostitution was noted, Taylor gave a fake name with

2793
02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:17,640
Speaker 2: a Missouri ID. The officer also found prescription drugs he

2794
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:22,480
Speaker 2: identified as spiro Nola's tone no Look Tone hydrochloride. They're

2795
02:20:22,520 --> 02:20:25,600
Speaker 2: listed as diuretics in an unmarked bottle in her purse.

2796
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:28,560
Speaker 2: Taylor says that part of her homeown treatments, but she

2797
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:31,720
Speaker 2: was charged with possession of prescription drugs was out a prescription.

2798
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:33,879
Speaker 3: She said she gave up.

2799
02:20:34,240 --> 02:20:36,400
Speaker 2: She gave a made up name because it was unclear

2800
02:20:36,480 --> 02:20:40,080
Speaker 2: why she had the Missouri license and why. That led

2801
02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:45,800
Speaker 2: to charge of malicious prosecution and an aggravated this misdemeanor

2802
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:47,960
Speaker 2: when the officer ran a check and found Taylor had

2803
02:20:47,959 --> 02:20:50,880
Speaker 2: an outstand of probation viology from Illinois related to a

2804
02:20:50,920 --> 02:20:54,080
Speaker 2: twenty ten conviction for credit card fraud. She said she

2805
02:20:54,240 --> 02:20:56,959
Speaker 2: did her time for that she was seventeen, was still.

2806
02:20:56,800 --> 02:20:58,240
Speaker 3: Old five hundred dollars in fines.

2807
02:20:58,879 --> 02:21:01,959
Speaker 2: Transition transgender people are often profiled and accused of doing

2808
02:21:01,959 --> 02:21:05,400
Speaker 2: the legal sex work when they aren't, says Harper. Gene Tobin,

2809
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:08,520
Speaker 2: policy director at National Center of Transgender Equality of Washington,

2810
02:21:08,560 --> 02:21:11,760
Speaker 2: d C. And as President Barack Obama noted last week

2811
02:21:11,840 --> 02:21:15,400
Speaker 2: unnecessary imprisonment for finer violation that Clinton parole WANs have

2812
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:18,560
Speaker 2: helped drive the US incarceration rate to the world's highest.

2813
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:21,240
Speaker 3: It seems like they were trying to find something to

2814
02:21:21,320 --> 02:21:21,720
Speaker 3: charge you with.

2815
02:21:21,879 --> 02:21:24,680
Speaker 2: Taylor said in jail interview. I lied about my name,

2816
02:21:24,800 --> 02:21:27,720
Speaker 2: but I was not doing any illegal activity. The lady

2817
02:21:27,760 --> 02:21:30,200
Speaker 2: calle of police because I was transgender, that was with

2818
02:21:30,320 --> 02:21:33,280
Speaker 2: a transgender friend. Her bond has been said at two

2819
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:35,760
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. She said if she were from Polk County,

2820
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:38,400
Speaker 2: she would have paid ten percent and been released, But

2821
02:21:38,600 --> 02:21:40,920
Speaker 2: being from out of state, she would need someone local

2822
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:42,760
Speaker 2: to co sign, and she doesn't even have a lawyer.

2823
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:50,360
Speaker 3: So guess the race of Megan Taylor.

2824
02:21:51,760 --> 02:21:58,560
Speaker 2: Guys and ladies in the chat room, all right, seems

2825
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 2: like it's gonna take a while for you. Got I'll

2826
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:06,160
Speaker 2: read some more. Polk County Sheriff Bill McCarthy contacted this

2827
02:22:06,280 --> 02:22:09,640
Speaker 2: journalist about Taylor after jel officials spent time figuring out

2828
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:12,960
Speaker 2: the right protocols to treat the transgender inmate. The jail's

2829
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:16,200
Speaker 2: chief of detention, Tim Crumb, said Taylor isn't the first

2830
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 2: transgender inmate they've had, but most bond out within a day.

2831
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:22,600
Speaker 2: Taylor could be there for months. Her next court day

2832
02:22:22,600 --> 02:22:23,879
Speaker 2: is until August and twenty fifth.

2833
02:22:24,520 --> 02:22:24,840
Speaker 1: Wow.

2834
02:22:25,560 --> 02:22:27,279
Speaker 3: Wow.

2835
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:30,560
Speaker 4: And not to get off top of it, they said,

2836
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:33,680
Speaker 4: like some places, I think Washington, d C. Is one

2837
02:22:33,720 --> 02:22:36,400
Speaker 4: of the few places where they don't do bonds. Yeah,

2838
02:22:36,440 --> 02:22:38,680
Speaker 4: because they say it's just ridiculous, and a lot of

2839
02:22:38,760 --> 02:22:41,240
Speaker 4: times the bond is based off how much money you have.

2840
02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:43,199
Speaker 1: If you don't have the money, you stay in jail.

2841
02:22:43,120 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 2: And basically housing their isolation because they don't know what

2842
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:51,960
Speaker 2: unit to put it with. All right, all right, So

2843
02:22:52,120 --> 02:22:53,959
Speaker 2: let's see the guests in the chatterin blacking and Bernie

2844
02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Sanders when he had the idea for the Bebel shaving

2845
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:03,160
Speaker 2: system while at Amgos Concert African Booty Scratches, Sha and

2846
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:06,960
Speaker 2: Wanda Jungle Bunnies, black black as Kylie Jenner wants to

2847
02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 2: be without losing her white privilege. Color me black treated

2848
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:14,320
Speaker 2: her with respect white the bar, Yeah, they all write

2849
02:23:14,360 --> 02:23:15,040
Speaker 2: an article about it.

2850
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Right.

2851
02:23:15,560 --> 02:23:18,240
Speaker 2: The Bard signature thing sounds like, oh, Jim Crow law

2852
02:23:18,280 --> 02:23:20,560
Speaker 2: to have a white person coach sign for you so black.

2853
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:22,760
Speaker 2: They didn't just throw her in with the Doudes so

2854
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:28,000
Speaker 2: white racial trade candidate, White, Taylor and Meghan those are

2855
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:29,040
Speaker 2: some white names.

2856
02:23:29,160 --> 02:23:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with white. Well, the correct answer it

2857
02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:33,480
Speaker 3: is black.

2858
02:23:43,320 --> 02:23:56,959
Speaker 2: Some of you did get it right, though, That's when

2859
02:23:57,240 --> 02:23:59,760
Speaker 2: that's when guess the race just ripped right inside and

2860
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:05,840
Speaker 2: just tears your heart out in it. Anyway, last thing

2861
02:24:05,879 --> 02:24:07,879
Speaker 2: before we get out of here. Oh and we're doing

2862
02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:10,080
Speaker 2: a movie review for a premium people at three for

2863
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:13,000
Speaker 2: a man. But last thing before we get out of here.

2864
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:36,320
Speaker 2: I love that the chat room just went in on

2865
02:24:36,440 --> 02:24:37,720
Speaker 2: how bad that weave was.

2866
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:38,520
Speaker 1: Right.

2867
02:24:38,600 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 3: They was like, you're working bro right, Like that is

2868
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:42,439
Speaker 3: horrible advertising.

2869
02:24:43,560 --> 02:24:46,160
Speaker 2: Samurai saw sees from man claiming to be a Jedi

2870
02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Knight and it will be destroyed. A man who told

2871
02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:52,040
Speaker 2: police he was willing the Samurai sword in a Washington

2872
02:24:52,120 --> 02:24:54,000
Speaker 2: park because he was trained to become a Jedi Knight

2873
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:58,520
Speaker 2: will have his weapon destroyed. Diagraham Jones was ordered to

2874
02:24:58,520 --> 02:25:01,360
Speaker 2: pay two hundred dollars and plus put on a six

2875
02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:04,959
Speaker 2: month conditional release order. When he appeared in the burn

2876
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:10,600
Speaker 2: Bury Magistrate's Court. Jones was charged with possessing a controled

2877
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:13,880
Speaker 2: weapon after he was seen waving the seventy centimeter sword

2878
02:25:14,480 --> 02:25:17,040
Speaker 2: and Parkland their big swamp in April, or maybe this

2879
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 2: is at Washington, I don't know what wa is, he claimed.

2880
02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:25,320
Speaker 2: He then threw it on the ground in an effort

2881
02:25:25,360 --> 02:25:26,920
Speaker 2: to break it and make it less dangerous.

2882
02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:29,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, the kids will love playing with that.

2883
02:25:30,720 --> 02:25:32,760
Speaker 2: Jones previously told the court he was joking when he

2884
02:25:32,800 --> 02:25:35,320
Speaker 2: told police he was in Jedi training. Police said the

2885
02:25:35,360 --> 02:25:38,320
Speaker 2: sword will be taken to the tip and crushed by bulldozer.

2886
02:25:38,840 --> 02:25:42,560
Speaker 2: Good should like his ass up for good key, good measure.

2887
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:45,200
Speaker 2: But okay, all right man, we'll talk to you all tomorrow.

2888
02:25:45,320 --> 02:25:47,080
Speaker 2: Not sure what time will do the show because Karen's

2889
02:25:47,120 --> 02:25:51,880
Speaker 2: gonna be on Project Fandom talking about that strain like

2890
02:25:51,959 --> 02:25:53,360
Speaker 2: you guys like, but we will be.

2891
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:57,160
Speaker 3: We do plan on doing the show tomorrow, So until then,

2892
02:25:57,520 --> 02:25:59,120
Speaker 3: I love you, Na,