1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson, and you were listening to the 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Velvet Edge podcast. What if I told you that all 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: of your dreams are actually possible if you truly want 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: to make them happen. That dream, job, the relationship, the 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: happiness and satisfaction that we all want. According to author 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Lauren Xander, the reason our dreams aren't actually happening has 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: nothing to do with anyone or anything going on around us. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: But it has everything to do with us. Lauren wrote 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: the book Maybe It's You, where she teaches readers the 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: art of dreaming. If you are aware of your dreams, 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: do you know the steps you need to take to 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: get them? Or maybe you're like me and you don't 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: even know what some of your dreams are yet. Lauren 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: is here to help and gave me the full lowdown 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: in our conversation. Here's Lauren. Okay, So, as I was 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: saying to you, I've been reading the book, the book 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: is Maybe It's You, and I have to tell you. 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I you know, I've done a lot of therapy. I 19 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: like to think of myself as pretty self aware, and 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: then I started reading this book and I thought, holy 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: sh it, I can't believe. Yeah, the reasons some the 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: things that I want aren't happening in my life is 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: totally my own fault. Yes, And fault is not a 24 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: dirty word. It's more like like I I actually have 25 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: used that. It's like a fault line, like the fault 26 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: line in the world, like where the to tonic lights met, right, Like, 27 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: there's there's fault. Yes, that's true, you were raised poor 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: or your father left, Like, there's fault. But that's not 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: a reason. Okay, that's that's like, No, that's where you 30 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: have to know your cavities so that you can evolve 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: from there. Right, because everyone has ship, right, Like we've 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: all gone through stuff or had our own experiences that 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: make us react in certain ways. But the whole point 34 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: of this book, for what I'm what I took away 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: from it was you can still create the life you want. 36 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: You got to start with the dark to create the light. 37 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Not that okay, right, And I really don't think dark. 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, I equate dark with nighttime, right, Like that's 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: not bad, it's just dark. Yeah, you need and you need. Right. 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: So there's a way we don't like to talk about 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: the way we lie, the way we you know, fired someone, 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: the way we yelled the way like we don't like 43 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: having ship yeah, And so then that forces us to 44 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: lie and blame right and explain away that like you 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: made me right. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't 46 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: have yeah, right. And so that is the source of 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: why we lose our power, because we don't own our 48 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: dark side. So you've created this whole method, it's called 49 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: the handle method. And you, first of all, I mean, 50 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: you're basing this off of your own experience in life, 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: right Like. It's not like you're just looking at everyone 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: else saying, oh, well, this is what's wrong with you guys, 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: let me help, let me help you fix it. Yeah, no, 54 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: it was I was my first guinea pig. What happened? 55 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: I really was, you know I I was such an asshole? Wow? Um. 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: So I cheated my way through all of high school, 57 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: like actually cheated. So, yes, literally cheated. You want to 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: know how I cheated? I was raised Orthodox Jew, which 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: means I knew Hebrew. And if you understand Hebrew, it's 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the alphabet in a different like letters, right like it's 61 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: the B is a bet right. And I used to 62 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: be able to write out all my answers in phonetic Hebrew, right, 63 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: So even if someone knew Hebrew, they couldn't figure out 64 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: what the hell I did. And I could lay the 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: sheet out on the floor in front of me and 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: no one would know I ever cheated on every exam. 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's pretty crazy. I mean for effort, 68 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, as for snake, right and um, and so 69 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: you know I and no one knew it, right. So 70 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: then getting clapped for when you're a liar right made 71 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: me feel so cold? Right? So, and then I cheated 72 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: to talk never minded. I cheat everywhere in school. I 73 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: also cheated on every boyfriend I had. Okay, right, like 74 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: I was like what you didn't know? Never hurt you 75 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: was the philosophy, right, and so I and no one 76 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: ever caught me. Right. I was funny, I was adorable. 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: I was who they came like no one's even like no, 78 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: unless I went back and told everybody all my criminal behavior, 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: they never would have guessed it. So I was a 80 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: snake right that, and a snake you at least know 81 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: it's coming, so wow. So and then my big transformation 82 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: was when I figured out that I didn't look like 83 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: I didn't feel loved. I didn't when I said I 84 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: love you, I didn't feel it or mean it in 85 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: a way that you're supposed to write. So here I 86 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: was this badass captain of the team, like I was 87 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: this you know, persona that was fake the fuck And 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I realized it was all my fault. That was the original. 89 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's me because you were letting yourself go there 90 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: because you weren't letting people in, Like what was your 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: first kind of realization? What did it come or what 92 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: did it look like? I couldn't feel. I wasn't happy 93 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: like I had the boyfriend, I had, the school I had, 94 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: did it like I had all the things, but was 95 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,799 Speaker 1: like but on the inside, I was a lying, cold 96 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: manipulator ultimately right, and and I didn't really love my 97 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: best friend. And I didn't like I didn't feel or 98 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: my ideals were a farce. But no one knew it 99 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: except me. Wow. And I had a very spiritual experience 100 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: because I went to Israel by myself and traveled Europe 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: by myself by myself, like write me my five cassette tapes, 102 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: my backpack and just literally went out into the world, 103 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: stayed on a kibbutz for six weeks, and you know, 104 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: cook vegetarian food for three and fifty people, but there 105 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: was no one who really could speak English. So I 106 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: was like alone for the first time in my life. 107 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: And I had some really you know, magical experiences right 108 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: that that made me like break free of what an 109 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: asked whole I was. And I literally I don't recommend 110 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: this to anybody, but I came home and told the 111 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: truth to everyone, every boyfriend, every friend, every lie I 112 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: was holding for other people. I told the truth about school. 113 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I told everyone who would. I sat my parents, my 114 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: orthodox Jewish parents, down and told them how many people 115 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: I had sex within their bed. Oh my God, Like 116 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: I blew up you into the opposite extreme. I literally 117 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: blew up who everyone thought I was so I could 118 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: feel alive again and be present and apologize and eat 119 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: crow and and be true to myself for the first 120 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: time in my life. So thus began the journey into creating. Now, 121 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: once you blew up who you were, you were like, okay, 122 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: well now I have to relearn how to live. Yeah, 123 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: I had then it. Actually, you know, I had to 124 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: make new friends. Yeah, so completely starting over. I really 125 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: started over, like I started over, like I had not 126 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: like you know, and every one of those people that 127 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: I apologized to you know, um, you know at least 128 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: Facebook friends with now, right, So like I I like 129 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: really cried and really explained, like I like did I 130 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: made amends? Right, Like I went through it and until 131 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, I was free and and owned, like so 132 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: I could say exactly what I'm saying right now in 133 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: a way that people would truly also want to come 134 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: clean maybe right and really start to understand that the 135 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: source of darkness and humans is the ability to live 136 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: for others. But really pretend you're doing it to keep 137 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: your mom happy, because you know, like we start to 138 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: keep secrets, we we believe it, and it locks us 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: into our personality. So it was my lives that had me, 140 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: not me who had my lives. And then that like 141 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: revelation blew myself into a way more present human being. 142 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: And then I started meditating, and then then I could 143 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: like be open to everything. Yeah. Yeah, So as as 144 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: you were going through that in your own your own process, 145 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: what were you what were you learning that you were like, 146 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I have to go tell other people about this, and 147 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: like you had you felt like you needed to start 148 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: teaching other people about what you were learning. Um, that 149 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: didn't happen until like change. So I was an environmental 150 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: studies major, and I really was like early late eighties, 151 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I was you know, you people are killing my goddamn planet, right, 152 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: like you guys, Like I like, oh my god, right 153 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: like you at all. So I wasn't like I was 154 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: not very good at science, but I was, um devoted 155 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: to save the planet and save the water and save 156 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the seals and save every time. Right. And then it 157 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: was like the work, Like I hated the work, yeah, 158 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: but I thought that that was what work was and um, 159 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: and then I realized that the way it felt was 160 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: so wrong, Like this can't be my fulfillment, right, I 161 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: can't hate my career because it's right, right, someone has 162 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: to do it right. And then what I realized when 163 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: I was twenty two, um, and now I'm I'm turning fifty. Um. 164 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: When I was twenty two, I realized that I was saved. 165 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: The trees killed the people. And then I had the revelation, oh, 166 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: people don't see the trees, right, It's not the tree. 167 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: The trees are going to be fine, right, The humans 168 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: aren't gonna make it right. And so then I I 169 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: really had the biggest cry of my life. I can 170 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: remember it and I really apologized to my parents was 171 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: studying the wrong thing. And I became like, I, you know, 172 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: decided I was headed for self help right, Like, I 173 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: wasn't going to go back to school because that's not 174 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: my forte, but I was going to go to wherever 175 00:10:54,360 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: people were doing self help this. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I 176 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: left a great job at the United Nations that I 177 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: thought was my dream and it was really a nightmare. 178 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: And I told the truth about that, quit that and 179 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: got my first job itself help. Wow. And then my 180 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: joke was I ran away from that cop I ran 181 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: away from that company screaming eventually, but thank god I 182 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: stayed there and learned everything I learned there because it 183 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: helped me figure out what I would do that was 184 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: basically the opposite of that. Yeah. So the Handle method 185 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: you say in your book is a step by step 186 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: coaching process that addresses one's entire life. It teaches people 187 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: how to dream, how to realize every last one of 188 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: their dreams, and how to clean out their closets, both 189 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: literal and figurative, so that they can have the lives 190 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: that they're wildly proud of. So you've put this now 191 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: into this book. Why does this method work. What's been 192 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: your experience? Why does this work? Um? Because I, first 193 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: of all, I'm in love with human beings. I think 194 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: we're epic. We can change it, like we're epic? Um? 195 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: What we don't have language or processes that help us 196 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: be true to ourselves? Right there? Like my, you know, 197 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: we're so busy teaching our kids algebra, math Christopher Columbus, 198 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Like read every book that was read before you like 199 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the like the way we teach grow up as a 200 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: human has zero being education? Oh my god, I so 201 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: agree with that. Right And and you know, people don't 202 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: even know how to pick their lover, People don't know 203 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: how to talk about sex, people don't know how to 204 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: figure out their own values. I'm so the entire method 205 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: is a construct to get you to answer all the 206 00:12:55,360 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: questions of your higher self and conquer your lower off. 207 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Your lower self says, get back, you know, roll over, 208 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: don't go for a run. Don't tell them to touch 209 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: you there. Uh, don't tell your boss you want this, 210 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: don't do that you'll get like. So fear rules, society, 211 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: you could say, and freedom and free flags and go 212 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: be true to yourself. Um is not taught. And so 213 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: I have been pioneering how to get a human to 214 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: to develop their own language, on on what they want, 215 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: on who they are, on what what works about you, 216 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: what doesn't work about you? Like and when you say 217 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: it yourself and you know yourself, that's the act of 218 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: loving yourself. And I can teach courage, and I can 219 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: teach promises, and I can teach like. Then I can 220 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: teach you what I know that makes all of us great. 221 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: And it's not about what I mean. It's not about 222 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: it all beating yourself up. It's like what you said 223 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: about just getting honest with yourself. I teach people to 224 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: have a an epic sense of humor about being human. 225 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Um? No, one, everyone feels like. 226 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: One of the things I teach is that we think 227 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: feeling bad when you don't do something you said you 228 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: would do is like a way like that suffering is 229 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: like a cleansing good thing versus bullshit, Like feeling bad 230 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: is bullshit. Like if you're going to watch Netflix still 231 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: two in the morning, have fun, right, do you understand 232 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: instead of beating yourself up over everything, like literally you're 233 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: eating the bag of chips while you're watching till two 234 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: in the morning and then you feel like shit about 235 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: yourself and as if that's going to inspire you not 236 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: to do it the next time. Right, So we learn 237 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: to loathe ourselves for the actions we're taking that we 238 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: don't respect, and as if that loathing did anything but 239 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: get another bag of chips the next night, because I 240 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: think you're really just sucked. And then you make up 241 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: theories about yourself that you know, my mother was never 242 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: good at it, I'll never be good at it. Right, 243 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: So then we have these theories that I call weather reports, 244 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: like we weather report ourselves, except we don't believe in 245 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: ourselves too, that it's really one day at a time 246 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: and nothing's true. Nothing's true about any of us. Nothing. 247 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: What you did yesterday doesn't mean anything about today. Now, 248 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: it really is predictable if you're still there saying the 249 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: same thing in that head of yours that you'll do 250 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: the exacting yesterday. Yes, there's science that backs that up. 251 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: But if I could get my hands on you, you 252 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: have the ability to make and key promises to yourself 253 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: with you know, with a consequence, right, I need If 254 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: I need a consequence, you need to come right, And 255 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: consequences are are what I say is using the dark 256 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: for light. Right, Like when I wanted to um meditate 257 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: twice a day, right, it was very simple. Here's how 258 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: I made sure I meditated twice a day for my 259 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: I only did ten minutes, everybody, I didn't do the 260 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: twenty right, But what I did was I said no 261 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:23,359 Speaker 1: coffee till I meditated, and no screen time till I meditated. 262 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how easy it was to 263 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: do my meditation? That was easy. You wanted the coffee 264 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: and you wanted the screen time. Yes. So then what 265 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: did meditating become a habit? Um I met? Yeah? I 266 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: mean I do something else now, I really manifest I 267 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: do something right, something different. But I love meditation. I 268 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: believe in meditation. I meditated for five years straight, like 269 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I have done that, But I now do I do art? 270 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: I make art instead, Right, I should do something different now, 271 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: but and I love it. But it's like a meditation process. Okay, 272 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: But yes, when I Emily Fletcher is a very good 273 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 1: friend of mine and a teacher that I love, and 274 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: um I promised, I brought her into my company to 275 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: teach meditation to everybody and do it true day and 276 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: then we all took it on for six weeks straight, 277 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: and so then I was in on it for six 278 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: weeks straight. So it's like, you know, I love flavors 279 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: of lots of flavors of people's ability to teach great ships. 280 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: So can we talk about how you teach people how 281 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: to learn how to dream though, because that is a 282 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: part of this whole process and what you were just 283 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, like you do have to reward yourself. 284 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: And I want to get into the weather report stuff 285 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: that you talk about later, but but first, do you 286 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: see a consistent theme amongst your clients or people who 287 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: read this book on why we have a hard time 288 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: even knowing what our dreams are? Yes, there's a few 289 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: good there's a few good answers. Okay, okay, the first 290 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: is really sad, So everybody, you know, hold your breathfast. Second, okay, everybody, 291 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: here we go. Um, according to science, I could tell 292 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: you of the study. But according to science, human beings, 293 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: over eighty percent of our thoughts are negative. Wow, over 294 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: eight way, it gets worse. But that's not even the 295 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: worst part. Ready for the worst part, Okay, I guess 296 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: and repeating from the day before, So just what you 297 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: were actually just talking about. Yeah, So like you know, 298 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: like the person who has road rage and right and 299 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: drives down and gets pissed at everybody drive. Everybody's driving, 300 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, they do it every time they're driving right, 301 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: and every time you go into the refrigerator and you're like, oh, 302 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: you know I should eat that apple, but look it's 303 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: my kids, right pudding, Right, I deserve that. Today was hard? Right? 304 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Like how many did right? So we are logic. We 305 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: don't witness our logic and our negative thoughts about ourselves 306 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: or what's happening are repeating and proving themselves every day. 307 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: We were just along for the ride. So because we're 308 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: not engaged in taking over our inner dialogue, we don't 309 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: hear how dismal it is, you understand, So we don't 310 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: even we're not realizing we're doing any of that stuff. No, 311 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: we really subconscious. It's it's it's subconscious and it validates itself. Right. 312 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: It isn't that you aren't going to work and being 313 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: a great nice person, Like there's many things about each 314 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: of us that is naturally positive. And just like it 315 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: takes nothing for you to be nice or kind of 316 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: every star books for you know, like anywhere you go, 317 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: like no one can make you stop that and it's 318 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: natural for you. Right, there's also dark ship that you 319 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: can't stop. Like the positive doesn't stop either. It's just 320 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: we don't have enough of what we want. That's really positive, okay, right, 321 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: And so the greatest interrupter to all of this is 322 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: to ask a person to have a vision for not 323 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: just the three areas of life. Everybody that focuses on 324 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: what are the thris. Everyone focuses on your relationship, your 325 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: love life, your career, making money, and your health if 326 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: it's you know, and then your children and then maybe 327 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: that your family, like but like fun and adventure, learning, 328 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: like really making money, really having the career of your dreams, Like, 329 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: no one's really Everyone thinks they're like, well, because my 330 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: dad was this guy and I have right, we all 331 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: have all our logic for why we can't have epic dreams. 332 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: And so to ask a person to start to dream, 333 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: like I have never um read, a dream might eat 334 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: No matter how successful the person is, that doesn't come 335 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: with all their fears riddled in their dream like that. 336 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: My husband and I get good at having difficult conversations. Yeah, 337 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, like that sounds positive, but can you hear 338 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: what the woman really right. I thought that was so 339 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: interesting because in the book you give throughout the book 340 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: you're giving examples of a couple of your clients experience, 341 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: which was super helpful to me because I could see 342 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: myself in so many of the things that they did 343 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: and I did. I just wasn't aware, like you said, 344 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: I just wasn't aware of the voices in my head 345 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: and so much of um what their first dreams would be. 346 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: We're very much just like yes, riddled in fear or um, 347 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of putting the blame on someone else or just 348 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: making the excuse and kind of like, ah, I hope 349 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: maybe you know I could get this or you know, 350 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: something like that, which I thought was so fascinating. Yes, 351 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: we are. If I said, tell me all the reasons 352 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: you can't have your dream you could write so I 353 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: could write a full novel about it. Yes, if I 354 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: tell you to write all the reasons you can have 355 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: your dreams, you will find a pity party starts to form. 356 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you want to know what my first reaction was 357 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: is I've never been good at dreaming, I thought. And 358 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: then I read that that was like pretty common, Um, 359 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought to myself, because I know, you know, 360 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: I know certain people, um who from a young age 361 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: have been like, I know that I want to do 362 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: this with my life, and I've just really never felt 363 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: that way, Like I've had certain things I like more 364 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: than others, but I immediately responded with, what, I don't 365 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: know where my dreams are, because you know, I completely 366 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: downplayed any sort of success I've had as maybe I 367 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: just looked into it or something. Yes, it's it's one 368 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: of the most um convenient ways to never have to 369 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 1: know yourself deeply. What do you mean so you I 370 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: want you to know if you if you got stuck 371 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: with me for a little while, and I read your hauntings, 372 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: and I read your parent traits, and then I read 373 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: the dreams you write, Like when you do the first exercise, 374 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: write the whole first thing, what you will find is 375 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: the way you tracked yourself into your lower self that 376 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: doesn't believe what the higher self came to do, Like 377 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: it's a battle between dark and light, high your self, 378 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: lower self, and yeah, and in your lower self, you 379 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: can hear your higher self dream. But we never sit 380 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: down and study ourselves, Like what could be more cool 381 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: than to fall in love with our issues and our dreams. Right, 382 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: but you know how much time have you spent writing 383 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: out your dreams learning how to really understand yourself? Like 384 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: we have zero? Right, And if I even ask you 385 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: to spend a day on it, it it would like to 386 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: seem in the exhausting tale. Right. But if I said, 387 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, do you have kids, do you want your 388 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: kids to have their dreams? You want them to get 389 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: prolific a dreaming or do you want them to tell 390 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: you why the world doesn't except dreams? Wow? Yeah, it's 391 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: like it's so sad, and it's so the opposite of 392 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: who were meant to be. It's so true about the 393 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: immediately when because there's twelve different areas of your life 394 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: that you talk about dreaming, which our self body loves, spirituality, career, money, time, home, family, friends, 395 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: fun and adventure, community and contribution. And I read that 396 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: list and I thought, it just seems so daunting. It 397 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: was like I'm supposed to write a dream for all 398 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: of these things, and like that in and of itself 399 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: felt a little exhausting to me. You're right, Like that 400 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: was my immediate response. But then I also read it 401 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, I can't, I cannot tell you what 402 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: my dreams are in a lot of those areas at 403 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: this point, so obviously I need to do this, Yes, 404 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: and then what happens? Here's the beauty of doing it. Okay, 405 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: I know no, no one has to believe me, but 406 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: but it's I swear true. Um, when you write your 407 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: dreams and you connect to them spiritually, emotionally and physically, 408 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: like okay, like I'm sitting down, I'm writing this, I'm 409 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: looking for it. I'm following these instructions. I'm taking the 410 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: time to really ask myself how to fulfill on my 411 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: life's mission, Like what's my life's mission? Right? Um, what 412 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: no one expects is that when your head says you're exhausted, 413 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: you feel exhausted. When your head says I want to 414 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: make twice as much money next year, providence moves to right, 415 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: Like the world doesn't work the way we literally think 416 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: it does. Like hammer a nail. If I don't hammer 417 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 1: the nail, it won't stick to the wall. Right. No, 418 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: the inner dialogue is always going to sleep. It's conjuring, 419 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: it's talking to itself. When it's singing a song, it's like, oh, 420 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: we are so much more spiritual than we've ever known. Right, 421 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: And we don't have any access to it. We don't 422 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: tap in, we don't have language for it. Right, and 423 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: religion has done such a fuck up number nothing personal 424 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to anyone who loves it and it's working for them. 425 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: But there's there's this way it does. It's like God 426 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: is outside of you, like pray to that and and 427 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: like get on your knees people versus that that it's 428 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: inside of you, right, your spirituality, your soul, your love 429 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: of yourself, your aspirations, your mission. If you don't talk 430 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: to it, it can't rule you. Right, more people check 431 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: out astrology than they ask themselves what's most important to that? 432 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: M I'm probably guilty of that. I didn't say don't 433 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,719 Speaker 1: like astrology, and I didn't say don't pray and attempt 434 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's true we don't have language, 435 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: and we don't force ourselves to have language inside of 436 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: our like we don't take over our inner dialogue, and 437 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: then we don't even hear the one that's in there. 438 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: And then if I literally could get you to hear 439 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: the one that's in there, I can get you to 440 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: take it over and really start to get that that 441 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: is the most critical place to create your life from 442 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: when you say to yourself, how you talk to yourself, 443 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: and no one understands that it's so relative in there. Right, 444 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: if you decide your husband's hot, you'll sleep with him tonight. 445 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: If your husband should have done X, Y and Z 446 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: six months ago, you're allowed to deprive him of sex, 447 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: And then you never wonder about your own sexuality. It's 448 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: his fault. That was really interesting. And there's a lot 449 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: about relation and ships in this book, and so and 450 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: I've seen this in my own life. I see this 451 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: in my friend's life. But where you're unhappy in a situation, 452 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: yet you are just holding onto the bad as the 453 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: reasons why you're doing everything you're doing, and you're not 454 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: actually doing anything to change the nature of the relationship. Yeah, 455 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: and then you don't also come clean because you already 456 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: decided they can't handle the truth, you know, right, every 457 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: every everyone thinks of you know, what's his face? Jack Nicholsonemae. 458 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: And it's like we are crazy with what we believe 459 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: that has never hit the light of day. Yeah. So 460 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: you say in the book maybe that that you have 461 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: some good news and some bad news for people, And 462 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: it's the part about that maybe it's you. You know, 463 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: the maybe part is just an outright lie, like it's 464 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: it's you, it's just you to talk about that. Um, 465 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: it was always a joke I made, like um originally 466 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: from like why don't I feel loved? Right back in 467 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: the day? Why do I feel like I don't trust anyone? Right? 468 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: Like why do I like, Oh I'm not trustworthy? Right? 469 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: Like why don't I feel love? I don't really love 470 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: anyone because I won't tell them the truth like oh shit, 471 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe it's me, right, like and then when you and 472 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: then I say that first about everything, like I still 473 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: need that tagline everyone be clear. This isn't going the 474 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: way I wanted to. And instead of going it's my 475 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: husband's fault, it's my kid's fault, right, I'm like, oh, 476 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: maybe it's me, right, and then you rip the maybe 477 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: off like companion and then you go, if it's me, 478 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: I can do something about it, Like what do I 479 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: need to do about it? Like what do I need? 480 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Like I need a good cry? I need to figure 481 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: out what my dream is here. I need to share 482 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: my dream with my sixteen year old daughter right like 483 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: oh shit, right, like nothing's fixed. Nothing is the way 484 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: my head says it is so that's why it's good 485 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: news though, because it's that you actually have things that 486 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: you can do about your unhappiness. That is the whole, 487 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Like there is nothing fixed about which you know, I 488 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: just I helped, you know, I just um, you know, 489 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: I helped a very famous guy lose a hundred pounds. 490 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: But he like you know, and he's he's turning fifty 491 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: if he's never lost the word, right, and he just 492 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: lost a hundred pounds and he has a girl like. 493 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: The dream also is so critical because it then gives 494 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: you the what for for changing your behaviors, right, the motivator, 495 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: it's like, and if you're not motivated to lose the weight, 496 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: and if you're not motivated, it's like you want like 497 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: everyone wants millions of dollars, No one wouldn't raise their hands, 498 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: but no one wants to do the work. Right. It 499 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: isn't There isn't a chick in the world that doesn't 500 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: want to be some size, you know, sexier and cuter, 501 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: that jumps into jeans and likes to be importunity. We 502 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: all raise our head, yes, I would like that, right, right, 503 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: And then if you don't have a dream about what 504 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: it is to be healthy and vital and sexy and free. 505 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: You will not do the work, You will not learn 506 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: to love, you know, spin class, right, Like those people 507 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: that are in there have a vision for their whole life, right, 508 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: and so some people are born with it. I certainly wasn't. Yeah, right, 509 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: and so then you can vote. But we all have 510 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: the ability. And it's so we were saying earlier, you 511 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: know that everyone's kind of got their ship or you've 512 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: had your relationships, like I know, immediately for me when 513 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: I was reading some of these dreams, I was like, right, like, 514 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: what if you're in a relationship with an asshole or 515 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: what if your parents were abusive and you're not saying like, 516 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: oh that's okay, or you have no reason to be upset, 517 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: like it's not taking responsibility for those people's behavior, but 518 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: you're just saying to take your power back. Well, you know, 519 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: I probably think that you're faan. Like the only thing 520 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: that was you know, I'll call it God given was 521 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: you know what you look like, your family like, your mom, 522 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: dad's siblings, you know the culture you were born into, 523 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: right like, and all of those characteristics. So I do 524 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: believe that lineage, which is the history of all of 525 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: our histories that we were born into. That the one 526 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: of the most powerful shifts I ever made is stop 527 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: feeling like like who asked for this ship? But like, 528 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: oh I asked for it? Like these this is like 529 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: this is my this is what I came here for. 530 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: I came here to work on my family, my lineage, 531 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: my body, my love. Right, Like, so I actually believe 532 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: we chose those things even though we don't remember being 533 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: invited to the party. Does that make sense? So we 534 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: were born and your gifts and I also but also 535 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: in there is your your greatest mission for fulfilling on 536 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: your life? Yeah? Why are you here? Yeah? So there's 537 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 1: like two movies that I think sum it up if 538 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: anybody wants to get a good laugh, Like two movies 539 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: that mimic it. One is defending your life and the 540 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: other it's ethically it's like Goofy from the eighties. Um, 541 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's Albert Brooks but pretty and Meryl Streep is 542 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: in it, and um, you know, like it's a hysterical. 543 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: It's hysterical and it's a must see to get a 544 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: good laugh at a perspective of what happens after you die. Right. 545 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: And then the other one that pretty much sums it 546 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: up is round Podcast Wait say that again. The two 547 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: movies that basically sum up like the joke of being 548 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: alive are Groundhog Day, Groundhog Day, Yes, and Defending Your Life, 549 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: oh man, because ground on Day is just repeating the 550 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over until you get 551 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: the joke and that you'd rather live your best day 552 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: no matter what and feel epic regardless of it's going 553 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: to get you nowhere except the experience of being. And 554 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: then the day he didn't care ever again, that he 555 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: was just going to get up and do it again, 556 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: like he stopped resisting the same as it ever was 557 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: like talking aheads right. The day he got that was 558 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: the day it was never the same day again. So 559 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: it was like a catch twenty two beautifully done. And 560 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: and so I really love that movie because it captures 561 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: the bad joke of Groundhog Day in your life, in 562 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: my life. And then Defending your Life is quickly like 563 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: you gotta watch it. I'm sorry, it's you know, it's 564 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: really it really nails the afterlife and it really makes 565 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: fun of humans. Um, it makes fun of our love 566 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: of food, like it has so many jokes in it 567 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: that it changed my life I'm definitely. It's so like 568 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: you'll get you'll get that like, oh, that's a really 569 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: good way to walk on earth, right, it's not that 570 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: I believe. You know, if you go, Lauren, would you 571 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: meet your children's life on your your spiritual notions? I 572 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: would say no. And you go, well, then why do 573 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: you talk about them and have them? And I'm like, 574 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: because it makes life so much more um present and 575 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: enjoyable and deep and deep and deep, so and then 576 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, I make people really, you know, you have 577 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: no idea how many people right off spirituality because you 578 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: know they don't believe in religion, or they are stuck in, 579 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, because they're gay because of it, like they 580 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: like like they're they're outcasting there. It's like so boxed 581 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: in or the Catholic priests or like everyone has like 582 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: the like all of that and all of that doesn't 583 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: let a person connect to their own definition of spirituality 584 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: and what is it for you? And I don't think 585 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: anyone like we all want to invent what it is 586 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: to be a mother, what it is to have money, 587 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: what it is to be a sister or a brother, 588 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: what it is to be a friend, what it is 589 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: to care about your community, like we're missing the opportunity 590 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: to invent for ourselves, like what life is for and 591 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: we just you know, you get yeah. I mean, well, 592 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm just hearing so much of you saying of just 593 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: living period, Like we have all these voices in our 594 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: head or whatever you want to call them, but we're 595 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 1: not actually living and realizing our true like fulfilling lives, 596 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: let alone realizing you can take over your inner dialogue exactly. Well, 597 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about that a little bit, because you kind 598 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: of touched on the weather stuff earlier, but this was 599 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: this was a kind of a wow moment for me too, 600 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: because I think that I know somewhere internally that I 601 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: let fear drive a lot of what I do. But 602 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: reading about what you call the chicken voice, I was like, 603 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, that is so it's that is so 604 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: it for me to talk about what the chicken voices. Okay, 605 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: so there are you know, the voice of the chicken 606 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: is the voice of you know, don't say that, don't 607 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: hand what if you get it wrong. Don't tell them 608 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: why you were really late. Tell him this, you know, 609 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: don't tell your friend you didn't invite her because you're mad. 610 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: Ator like the voice of the chicken is each is 611 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: always strategizing. Had to not get in trouble, had to 612 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: not upset anyone, how to not hurt people's feelings, how 613 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: to get ahead by not telling the truth? Like it 614 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: literally glorifies hide your voice in the name of keeping 615 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: other people happy. I think in the book You Go, 616 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: the chicken is just a pussy which maybe laugh out loud, yes, 617 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: it's it really is. Like if you watch a chicken, 618 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 1: it should be scared of everything because it's going to 619 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: get eaten by anyone who right, Like the world is 620 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: a bunch of predators going to eat the chickens. Right, 621 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: you got that? And so the way we interact with 622 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: the world at large is we're chickens. I mean, we're little, 623 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: we're um like everything about us is scared of not 624 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: getting what we want. What's going to happen here? What 625 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: if I about yelled at me? What if she takes 626 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: away the car? What if she like? So we we 627 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: become liars to keep everybody else happy, and we lose 628 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: the voice of our true self. We don't even care 629 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: about it. We're developing the voice of the chicken so 630 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: that we can get ahead, and that fear and strategizing, 631 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: like you know the amount people strategize and never even 632 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: have great sex with our own husband because they don't 633 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: want to hurt their feelings or tell the truth about 634 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: how they like it. Right, It's like, you know, and 635 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: then we're so awkward to find our own voice about 636 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: what we like, like we can't even have five sentences 637 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: towards our own you know, body parts well because a 638 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: lot of people might not even know. Again, there's no dream, 639 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 1: there's no talking about it. Chicken bait. It's chicken bab 640 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: based lodger. So a lot of the chicken voice is 641 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: the people pleaser voice that we know about. It's it's 642 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: people pleaser, and it also uses your past. It uses 643 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: past precedence, like well, you've got in trouble that time, like, 644 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: so it builds a case, right, and it's it's you know, 645 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: there's our joke is that you know, it's a bunch 646 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: of squatters that like know what they know. And so 647 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: therefore you can never have to have a relationship with 648 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: your father, and you can never ask that from your husband, 649 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: and so you have to sneak and you come up 650 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: with all these other strategies because fundamentally, you're a chicken 651 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: and you believe that the other person is more important 652 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: than you or you don't want to lose their love, 653 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: Like there's some way you put the other your boss 654 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: or someone on a pedestal and you're less set. And 655 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: then this is like the only way you can figure 656 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: out how to not get Uh did you cut out? Lauren? 657 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: You say that? Say that last it cut out? This 658 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: is the part about you is your boss? How you 659 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: said figure out how to get and it cut out. 660 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: So what happens is is we become strategists and use 661 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: the voice of the chicken to come up with like 662 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: how to get what we want given what we believe, 663 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: which is they're going to yell at us. They're never 664 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: going to give us that day off. They don't care 665 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: about you know, you getting credit about that, so you 666 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: won't say, hey, I really want you to notice, right, 667 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: Like they won't even ask for acknowledge, right. Because so 668 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: we have all these strategies of how do we get 669 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: what we want given the way we see the world, 670 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: which is there's big bad wolves everywhere are going to 671 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: eat us. Wow. And then we have a brat too, 672 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: which is kind of like our teenage self almost well 673 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: I am. You can imagine even just from my tone 674 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: that I am. I lean way more on the brat 675 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: side than on the chicken side. Okay, tell us more 676 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: so I'll do it tomorrow. I'll go to bed when 677 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: I want. I'd rather starve than exercise and eat. Right. 678 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: I won't apologize, right, it's your fault. I can be mean, 679 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: right because you hurt my feelings, right, Like, I'll even 680 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: tell you the truth without setting it up with you 681 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: like very brady, immature, impetuous, like like entitled, right because 682 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: I you know, like really quite creepy but really like 683 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: a like a little baby bitch, right, right, But you 684 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: know I told the truth right, right, So you could 685 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: You could have both though It's not like you're like 686 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: a chicken or a brat. It's like different moments where 687 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: we can be both. We are both. We have both. 688 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: Anytime you don't have what you really want, whether it's 689 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: the body, the money, the job, the marriage, the relationship 690 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: with your kids, it's big, sickly a dance between the 691 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: chicken and the brat and and today's basic behavior, right, 692 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: like what did you do today? Well, I really wanted 693 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: my kid to come with me, so I took away 694 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: her phone and said get in the car. How that works? 695 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 1: She didn't talk to me the whole time, And then 696 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: I got really piste and then I said she couldn't 697 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: go out right, Wow, and what was this all for? Well? 698 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: I want did I have a better relationship? Right? And 699 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 1: it's all her fault, right? So there you know what 700 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: I mean. So it's like and then blame it on teenagers. 701 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: So if you were coaching that person that you just 702 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: told the story about, what would you what would be 703 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: a better response or a way for that person to 704 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: get what they wanted and have a better relationship? Um, 705 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: you would? You would? You would really share with your 706 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: kid what you're sad about, what you're missing, what you 707 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: yearn for, what you hope for, or and then ask 708 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: them what do they yearn for, hope for? And then 709 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,839 Speaker 1: truck and go why is it this way? What do 710 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: you think it is this way? What could we do? Like? 711 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: You would negotiate with that? Well, you never let me 712 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: you know this. You don't trust me, you don't like 713 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: you're this disciplinarian. That's a jerk. I don't want to 714 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: give you love because and I don't want to play 715 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: with you unless I need clothing, right, Like, you're no 716 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: fun mom, right, and so what could we do that 717 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: would be fun? And how could I make you happy? 718 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: And how could like how can we negotiate this? Right? Well, 719 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, and then you start negotiating and you're starting 720 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: to develop that relationship, but you don't do it like you, oh, 721 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: get in the car so well, like you're the parent 722 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, because I said so, isn't it so interesting 723 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: because I'm listening to you say that? And isn't it 724 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: so interesting to think about how many things or relationships 725 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: in our life that you know, maybe let's use relationships 726 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: And this is an easy example, but like you probably 727 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: have the same end goal. But because of our sometimes 728 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: an ability to communicate or be open or be honest 729 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: or to know our dreams, it can fall apart completely, 730 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: like you just don't get what you want once you 731 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: think you know something like I know he'll never love 732 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: me the way I want. That's like one plus one 733 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: is two. So with any belief you have in theory 734 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: you have about your husband, about yourself, about your career, 735 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: once you've locked it, yea believe that thing. Yeah, no 736 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: matter how much you wish it was different, that's like 737 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: painting a glass, It's still a glass no matter what 738 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: color it is. Right. So the fundamental thing that I 739 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: teach in the method and I get people that go 740 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: after and really see for themselves through the process, is 741 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: the negative beliefs that are age old in you that 742 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 1: unless you change your mind and change your own theory 743 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: and hear your theory, you are going to keep proving 744 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: that theory. It's the nature of the beast one hundred percent. 745 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: I agree with that. I call them the stories in 746 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,879 Speaker 1: my head or the stories, and you know, but it's 747 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: like if you decide something about someone, which usually for 748 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 1: me is based on a fear I have, Like it 749 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: would be a fear if they this wasn't fact true. 750 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: But if I decided every single thing they do, I 751 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: will somehow be a c I knew it, you know, 752 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,720 Speaker 1: I'll use that as proof to prove whatever that theory 753 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 1: is in my head or that story. So in quantum physics, 754 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: they did a study where they shot like a photon 755 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: out of a laser and they created a test of 756 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: like this thin little you know, slit, and they shot 757 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: the photon to see if the photon would go through 758 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: the slit. And guess what it went through the slit. 759 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: And then they set up the test that they'd had 760 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: two slits and they shot the one photon to see 761 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: if the particle would split. Guess what the particle split. Amazing. 762 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: It does exactly what we think it's going to do. 763 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: Now watch for the kicker. Okay, ready, So the control 764 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: test was they had the two slits, they shot the photon, 765 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: but they watched it on a camera. They weren't watching 766 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: it in the room. Got me like the human was 767 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: not watching, and the photon did not just split into two, 768 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: it split into thousands. Oh my gosh. Okay. And then 769 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: what they figured out is that a humans focus is 770 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: causing the way things move. So if you believe your 771 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: husband's a jerk, you're making him one. That doesn't mean 772 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: that's all of it. If there's you know what I mean. 773 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: But there's a way to which we believe something and 774 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: it proves itself. So if you're looking for the jerk 775 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: on the road, you're going to find them. If you're 776 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: looking for how your kid isn't gonna honor you, you're 777 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: gonna find it. What we look for reprove out, Yes, 778 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: go ahead. So then the genius would be figure out 779 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: what you're proving that you hate and don't want to prove, 780 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 1: and then figure out what you wish you would prove 781 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: the dreams, catch your in a dialogue, and take over 782 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: the focus, And that's pretty much what this book teaches 783 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 1: you to do. That was to me, that was a 784 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: really good summary of this whole experience. Yes, it's really 785 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, twenty years later of of practicing this on 786 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:08,400 Speaker 1: on humans and teaching humans to human better. Um, it's 787 00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,799 Speaker 1: it's it's so much more fun to be alive when 788 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: you believe you have that kind of leverage and power. 789 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it isn't it true? You know, I've had 790 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: days where my life looked exactly the same, Like I 791 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: could have two different days, but my life looks exactly 792 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,360 Speaker 1: the same. The situations are the same, they the relationships 793 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: are the same. Nothing has changed except my attitude or 794 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, the way I'm thinking about things. And I 795 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 1: can feel too completely different ways about the same exact scenarios. Yes, 796 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: it's exactly right, that's exactly the point. So, but you 797 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: didn't create it, You're you don't know you can take 798 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: over the that's like this automated Yeah, I got lucky 799 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: that it's been right, right, versus like I can take 800 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,799 Speaker 1: over the controlled like I can find the control dial right, 801 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: like just like you know, you can take over like 802 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: you could hold your p and then p right like 803 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: like like ladies and gentlemen, let's take over our minds. 804 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,439 Speaker 1: It seems to be the wild West of the new 805 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,720 Speaker 1: frontier of being true to ourselves and having what we want. Yes, 806 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: So what's the end goal though, because it's not like 807 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 1: you just do this book one time or you make 808 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 1: you write down your dreams one time, right, and you're 809 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: just life is perfect? So is this a constantly evolving 810 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: state for us? Um, it's even worse than that. All right, 811 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: okay the minute. So I also teach like states. So 812 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 1: it's all states of being. If you would go your 813 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: body is a three right on a scale of one 814 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: to ten. There's how you think about your body. There's 815 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: what you say to yourself. There's the memories you use 816 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: against your past. Like if you're in a state of three, 817 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: the three is pervasive. So when you dream and then 818 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: change your promise, like and then like you have a 819 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: vision and then you realize in that vision you have 820 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: to have very different you know, promises about eating and 821 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: exercising and blah blah blah blah. Right, So now pretend 822 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,439 Speaker 1: you lost the twenty pounds. You exercise four times a week, 823 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: you take weekends off, you love how you're eating, You're 824 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: so proud of yourself. Great. You can either choose to 825 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: maintain right like stay at an eight for the rest 826 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: of your life, or you can pretend the eighth is 827 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: the new one and start from there again. Okay, Wait, 828 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: so that again knows I need it again? Tell me again. Okay, 829 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: So on a scale one to ten, I would go 830 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, I went, you know, 831 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: my marriage and my sex life is an eight. I 832 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: can go, well, let's just keep doing the same thing 833 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: over and over again. I love an eight, right, Or 834 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: in my method, I will say, when you've been at 835 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: an eight, you should call an eight a one. Okay, 836 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: So you want to start over and keep growing? Yes, 837 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,839 Speaker 1: I think you. We. I think humans came in with 838 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of problems and we're here to evolve our problems. 839 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: And that's the fun of being on earth. And so 840 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: the more you gain the system, the more you want. 841 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: It's not I don't need more money. I make a 842 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: nice living. I am very happy. It's not about the cars, 843 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: but it's about my dreaming and and pushing the envelope 844 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: and having a vision. Right, so whatever, Like you should, 845 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: every human should be having that much fun being alive. 846 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: We're going to be dead a lot longer than we're 847 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: going to be alive, right, And so we get however 848 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: long we get on earth, and like, really, folks, it 849 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 1: smells good, it tastes good. You know, there's so much 850 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: to do on Earth you will never get to are 851 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: you living and that? You know, like are you living 852 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 1: your own dreams and your own beliefs of what's possible? 853 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: And that's and so when are you done with that 854 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: when you're not here anymore? Wow? Yeah, I'm pretty aggressive 855 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: about I love I mean, I love that though, because 856 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 1: it to me all I keep hearing and what I 857 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: read in the book and what my experience was with 858 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: doing the activities was just not that my life isn't 859 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: good now, but my life can be so much more 860 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,160 Speaker 1: full And I just realized that and I didn't even 861 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't fully aware of it, you know, um, but 862 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: once you write it down and it's not it wasn't 863 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: even a bad thing. It was a very like, oh, 864 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 1: moment for me, which to me is exciting, Like you said, 865 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: I think it's super exciting. Yeah, it's it's I it's 866 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: really for a type that wants to and it really 867 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: works against depression and it works against you know. I 868 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: had a client yesterday say that she a very successful woman, right, 869 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:12,239 Speaker 1: like embarrassingly successful woman. And then what she thank me 870 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: for is ever since she took over in her dialogue 871 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: and really like started doing this work, she hasn't been 872 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: depressed ever again, Like it disappeared because she took over 873 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: the narrative of everything that was depressing her. Wow, right, 874 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: like she got even depression was her own choice, not 875 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: choice like anybody would sign up for it, but like 876 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: there was a way you can take over your loan 877 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: in the dialogue and really evolved past anything. Well, the 878 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,080 Speaker 1: book is called Maybe It's You. I highly recommend it. 879 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: It's been a very good experience for me, Lauren. Where 880 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: can people find you? Are you on social media? I am, 881 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: we are, we are, we are my Lord? Right are 882 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: you everywhere? We are? You know, twenty years later, we 883 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of context out there. So the hand 884 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: hand out group, you know, once you hit handelt group, 885 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 1: you can get it we have free we have like 886 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 1: we are giving it away, right we and if you 887 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: and our main program, which is like a community, we 888 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: have group calls like you pay one fee and you're 889 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: in for life. Is called Inner You okay, And it's 890 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,400 Speaker 1: twelve sessions twenty five minutes each of me teaching the 891 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: whole method and the homeworks on there. And there's you know, 892 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 1: you can get a buddy so you can meet people. 893 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: And there's classrooms that are all on zoom and I 894 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: go on there like we're all like it. We built 895 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: a world for community across the world and so and 896 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: that's the book. But on steroid. Well, and you mentioned 897 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: that in the book because once you read out your 898 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 1: dreams and um figure them out, you tell people that 899 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: they want you want them to go read them to 900 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: someone like a trusted person. Yes, and that is so important, 901 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: I believe so that it's establishing that community. That's an 902 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: awesome tool. I just wish people understood how much more 903 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: fun life is together. Yeah, like and and everybody I 904 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: have never written you know there it's very few people 905 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: that think they have enough great friends, right, and finding 906 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: people you can do this with that are like looking 907 00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: for you too, right, is really special. Yeah, okay, guys, 908 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 1: so I I wish for you to to understand how 909 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: much more fun life can be together. Thank you Lauren, 910 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening. 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