1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: This is the almost famous podcast. Yes, it's almost famous podcast. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: And we could not be happier to be here. You 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: know why, I'm really happy to be here, Ashley. 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 3: I think you're done with work for like the next 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 3: two weeks. 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: I'm getting close after this, I'm getting very close. I 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: got a ski day in front of me, I got 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: a golf day hopefully in front of me. And then 11 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: it's the holidays. Works has been wild generous. It's busiest 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: time of the years this year obviously with the holidays, 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: and now we're pretty much past shipping date, so I 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: can kind. 15 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: Of it's because people gift it. 16 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: It's they gift it, Yeah, they gifted They buy it 17 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: for friends, they buy it from themselves, maybe to do 18 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: like a holiday party, and then corporations do it for gifting. 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: And once you reach this date, like we're not shipping 20 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: coffee and getting it there by the holidays, we have 21 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: five days. Some people like I can put my hat 22 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: up and just kind of kick my feet up and 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: say it is what it is. But here's the other 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: thing I'm really happy about, Ashley. You know when you 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: have those days where like gratitude just kind of flows 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: out of you, where you just feel thankful, Like you 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: wake up and the day goes on and throughout the day, 28 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: you lay your head and your pill out that night 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 2: and you're just like, I'm really grateful for a few things, 30 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: really grateful for you. No, And here's why. Because this 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: last weekend, my in law's, my brother in law, my 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: sister in law, my wife and myself went to Rhode 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Island for the holidays. My mother in law's family had 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: a holiday celebration. It was important for us to be 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: there because Jess, because Nana was there, and we stopped 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: at Audrey's on the way out there. 37 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I was there for everybody out there. We had a 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: nice Yeah. 39 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: But not only is Audrey's just absolutely spectacular. You guys 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: are crushing it, you and Jared both, but it's it's 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: really fun for me. 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 4: Ared. There was a moment. 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Where Dawson kind of ran to the back and I 44 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: followed him, and you were sitting eating your sandwich around 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 2: the table with my family, and I just looked back 46 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, this is so special to me, 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: Like somebody is a part of my life for so long, 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: Like you have been spending time with now my family 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: like you are. 50 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: And them just like enjoying it. 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: I would say, now, the celebration at the at the 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: holidays was spectacular. I would say that most of my family, 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: if I asked him what was their favorite part of 54 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 2: the day, they would say just sitting at Audrey's with 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: the baby, baby Jade, and with you and Dawson and 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: Jared and just hanging out. 57 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: It was spectacular. 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 3: Oh, thanks, Ben, I'm so glad you had a great time. 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: We did too. Was the best part of my week 60 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: for sure. 61 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: It's so it's so wild when I get to be 62 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: with you kind of outside of the craziness of maybe 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: an event, to be kind of in your home, to 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: see you as a mom, because you're an incredible mom. 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: Jared's an incredible dad. Right, you have a young child. 66 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: It's not easy, and he's running crazy and he's asking 67 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: for everybody to everybody in my family laughed. The idea 68 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: that he calls Nam Nam. She like, that's cheese, and 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: he just said, I want nam name. And then he 70 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: got a slice of cheese and he ate a piece 71 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: of cheese and he was so happy. He's such a 72 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: cute kid, but he's not easy, and you guys just 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: do it so well, and it's so cool for me 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: to see after you know, I'm I don't want to 75 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: like forget that. Like when we first started doing this, 76 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: we both were very single. 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, that's actually very sweet that you say 78 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: like that you have such a good time when you 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: like watching all that, because usually from a mom's point 80 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: of view, we'll leave being like, oh, I wasn't present enough. 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was running around with him. I couldn't 82 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: have like a solid, like sit down conversation. So I 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: feel like moms are always a little bit insecure to 84 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: make sure that everybody had a good time, because you know, 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: it's all always more chaotic with the toddler. 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: Sure it is, No, that's not the case. We it 87 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: was absolutely spectacular. Here's the second really funny part of 88 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: the day, Ashley. 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: And I'm just that I wasn't there for. 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that you weren't there for and. 91 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: So okay, well, I know Santa showed up. 92 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: Santa did show up. I was so excited about Santa. 93 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: I had a few Martinez by then. 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: But. 95 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: Ashley, so when we were going to Rhode Island to Newport, 96 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: I had told my family. I was like, you know, 97 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: would be really fun since we're in Newport, we should 98 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: drive by. We're actually, yeah, we're actually and Jared got 99 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: married because it's so beautiful spectacular. The house that we 100 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: celebrated at was across the street from Rostliff. 101 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: Street, same freaking street. 102 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: So we were right when we saw the name of 103 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: the street. Yeah, it rings a bell. I think that's 104 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: the Mansion Row. Yeah, you guys should see if you 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: could only see the Zillo listing for this house that 106 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: he just celebrated his Christmas. Holy, holy moly. 107 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: And it's so cool to see somebody living in one 108 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: of these homes like they live in it because it 109 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: looks like it's out of the Gilded Age. Eighteen fifty 110 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: six was one of. 111 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: Eighteen Yeah, so just around that time. So did they 112 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 3: keep the furniture. Does it look authentic to the time 113 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: or is it modern in there? 114 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: Both? 115 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: So, like different rooms are kind of designed differently, and 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: so some rooms are kind of throwbacks or they've just 117 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: continued this tradition, and other rooms have been modernized, like 118 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: the kitchen and the living room and the TV room. 119 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: And those type of things. 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 2: But then like the Grand dining Room, which I didn't 121 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: know existed in homes very much throwback and very beautiful 122 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: and spectacular. 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: It was an incredible day. It was so special. 124 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 2: It was so fun, and Jessica and I both left 125 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: and we said one of the coolest things, because that 126 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: had to be at this point in my life at 127 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: least the top three, if not the craziest coolest house 128 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: I've ever been in. The thing that Jessica and I 129 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 2: said was it was just cool to see them like 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 2: not like acting like it's their home, right. They had 131 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: a bunch of little kids running around with like red 132 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: sauce and spilling it and there was red wine ever, 133 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: and nobody was freaking out, and it was like it 134 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: was just cool to see them using this as a 135 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: home still and not being like super uptight and like 136 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: it was just fun. But yeah, those homes in Newport 137 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: on Mansion Row. 138 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the best. 139 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 2: I mean, here's the crazy part. This is probably the 140 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: like least nice home and like it is so nice. 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: It's the nicest time I've ever been in. 142 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's like amongst these like Rockefeller houses. Yeah, 143 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 3: Rockefeller didn't have a house there. Vanderbilts are very well 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: known for their houses there. Yeah, it's well, you guys, 145 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 3: if you are ever in Rhode Island, definitely, Like I know, 146 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: it sounds kind of like weird, go visit mansions. It's there. 147 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 3: It's really awesome. It looks like something out of a 148 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 3: time period film. It's one of my favorite things to 149 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: do when people come visit. 150 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely awesome. So visit Audrey's visit the mansions. Well, Ashley, 151 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: you and I have headlines to get to today. It 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: is going to be a very interesting episode to break 153 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: down because there is some big news that I really 154 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: want your opinion on. But we'll start with the top story, 155 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: which is this Will's Adams asked for a Bachelor in 156 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: Paradise reunion, says Aaron Bryant and Eliza split surprised him. 157 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he said. He reached out to production and 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: he was like, so, what are we doing the after show? 159 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: And then he was like, oh, LI said to him, 160 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: We're not doing one this year. And then he was like, 161 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: never has there been a time where I actually wanted 162 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: answers from all these people that have now broken up 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 3: since the show ended. I am shocked about Aaron and Eliza. 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: They were cute and they were perfect for one another. 165 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: We stopped filming them because once you get really really 166 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: comfortable with someone, you gotta get boring to watch. He said, 167 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: I also thought that for sure that was going to 168 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: be the next wedding we did on the beach. I 169 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: can't say that I'm shocked with Kat and John Henry 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: because I love them both, don't get me wrong, but 171 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: they are just such different people. I know opposites attract, 172 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: but I don't know. When you're like a welder, deep 173 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: sea diver and then like the other one is scared 174 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: of water, you know, maybe this isn't going to work. 175 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: He also said that he's sad by how Aven and 176 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: Kylie's relationship ended. He said, I hate to see how 177 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: stuff like that is so easily just put into the universe. 178 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: You Now, it's so easy with social media to air 179 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: your a grievances and stuff. And I'm just hoping for 180 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 3: the best of both of them. And just an interesting tidbit, 181 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: I heard that opposites attract initially, but then long term 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: couples and like successful marriages, tend to have more similarities 183 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: and differences in their personality. What do you think about that? 184 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 2: I mean, I think so I think that, you know, 185 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: at least in my experience same there's a there's very 186 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: little that like we shared at the beginning other than 187 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: the competitive drive. Uh, and now as we've gone like 188 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: into our marriage, we both really like I enjoy the 189 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: same things Jessica enjoys, and she tries to do the 190 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: same for me. She doesn't love golf, but I love golf, 191 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: and she at least supports me and then asks me 192 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: what I shot, and that's about all I need. 193 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: There's differences, so there's a difference between having like. 194 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: Shared, but like, yeah, you know, we have the same 195 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: and I think for us this has always been a 196 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: big deal and not everybody has it, but like, our 197 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: faith is a foundational like point for us, right, That's 198 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: that's the thing we always come back to, and that's 199 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: what like the filter at which I attempt to live 200 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 2: my life through unsuccessfully many times. But when it comes 201 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: down to it, like jess can I share the same faith, 202 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: which I think is very important to us? And I 203 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: would imagine that, you know, if you shared totally two 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: different per perspectives on the world and what exists in 205 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: the world, it would be hard. So yes, I agree, 206 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: opposites may attract, but the common denominator has to be found. Well, 207 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 2: we've talked many times now about the Golden Bachelor finding 208 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 2: his common nominator, and here's a headline. We're going to 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: talk more about the Golden Bachelor and kind of about 210 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: Bachelor and Paradise as the episode continues, as most can imagine, 211 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: but here's the headline. The Golden Bachelor producers are here. 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: That's in quotes. That must be kind of new term. 213 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: They're here for Bachelorette and Bachelor and Paradise spinoffs. 214 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: We're here for it, you know. Yeah, So I've never 215 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: been able to read a headline and then see Bennett's 216 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: name and you know as the quota. Sure, it's kind 217 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 3: of cool. So Bennett is one of the show runners 218 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: and a friend of ours for almost a decade, and 219 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: he said this, nothing would make us happier dot dot 220 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: dot pause, stay tuned. And this was at the Producer's 221 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: Guild consideration panel on December eleventh. 222 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: That feels like a text I would get from Bennett, Like. 223 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 3: He talks the way. That's why I said. That's why 224 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: I said. It says nothing would make us happier. It's 225 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 3: not like he said, do dot dot. That's I said, pause, 226 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: stay tuned all I get. And then also Jason Erlick 227 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 3: Claire Freeland to producers that weren't there for our entireties. 228 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: They said that I'm here for the Golden for Golden Paradise. 229 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: Bennett said, We're ready for it, alrighty Ashley. 230 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 2: Do you know that Jason Erlick was the executive producer 231 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: unhappily ever after the show I did post show. 232 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know him quite well. 233 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 4: I know him quite well. 234 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: He is back and he ran Paradise this year. So 235 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: Nick Viles fiance Natalie asks Victoria Fuller to be her 236 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: maid of honor. Now crazy shocking to me, but this 237 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: was now posted and public. 238 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn made of honor. I thought when I saw 239 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: this on social that it was just one of the 240 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: bridesmaids game it is, but it's not. I'm looking at 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: the s whey right now, she said. When getting this 242 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: gift box from Natalie, Victoria said screaming, crying, throwing up, 243 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: and then she lived on the lid. It says, will 244 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: you be my maid of honor? You know, I think 245 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: it's just like a gen Z sort of thing, you know, 246 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: like just like all the things are coming out of me, 247 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: all the emotions. 248 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, throwing up always used to 249 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: mean like sick, like. 250 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 3: This guy's not good, like gross you. It's like, I 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 3: think it's coming out. 252 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: Ok. 253 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So they I mean she was there with Greg. 254 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 3: They're the only people that were super intimately involved with 255 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 3: the proposal. So I suppose I suppose it's not that surprising. Yeah, 256 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: because like basically they're pretending like they were going with 257 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: Greg and Victoria to a movie premiere and instead they 258 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: were going to this little theater where Nick proposed. So 259 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 3: to have somebody that involved with your engagement, it's yeah, 260 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 3: that makes sense. 261 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: I mean they're obviously very close. 262 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: This is just I was. I was like, this is wild. 263 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: Bachelor Nation is coming full circle again. Well, we have 264 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: some baby announcements. Obviously in Bachelor Nation we talked about 265 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: Sean Booth having a baby, and now while we're getting 266 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: a glimpse of their beautiful child, Sean Booth and Audrey 267 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: call Son the greatest thing that's ever happened to us. 268 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: Yes, Locke's Joseph Booth was born on December twelfth, at 269 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: they said thirteen thirteen military time. Because I guess because 270 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: it was twelve twelve at thirteen thirteen, and he is 271 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: the greatest thing that's ever happened to us. Sean Johnson's 272 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: baby was also born at the same hospital in the 273 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: same non exact time, but same day, and the pictures 274 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: of this baby are so cute. So congratulations to Sean 275 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: Andre He's beautiful. 276 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: We're going to bounce back down to some Bachelor in 277 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: Paradise News Bachelor Nations. John Henry Spurlock says he didn't 278 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: make a mistake proposing to cat Izzo. 279 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's really sweet. It's honestly sweet that 280 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: he says this, because a proposal obviously means a ton 281 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 3: and it's something that people don't want to do multiple 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: times usually, and it's also something that people like, you know, 283 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 3: you'd hope that you propose and at least think it 284 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 3: lasts more than six months. But anyway, let's just get 285 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: to what John says. He says, thanks for all the 286 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: kind words, and to those of you who have nothing 287 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: nice to say based on what was shown on edited 288 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 3: reality dating show, just know that I don't feel like 289 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: I made a mistake choosing her. Okay, so it actually 290 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: the headline which is what people love to do with headlines. 291 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: It's a little twisted. He said. He didn't make a 292 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 3: mistake choosing her now proposing it's possibly a different thing. 293 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 4: He said. 294 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: I never watched this back and guessed things weird to 295 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: say and guest things I guess he meant like, never 296 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: thought that I would end up with cat, because then 297 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: he goes, I fell for the real Cat is the 298 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: cat who always puts my feelings first and did everything 299 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: she could to make this work. That cat is a 300 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: lot that that cat the cat that a lot of 301 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: people truly know, but unfortunately the cat at the Bachelor 302 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 3: Nation doesn't know. Although we decided to go different paths 303 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: or an amazing woman and someone will be very lucky 304 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: to have you keeping you keep accomplishing your goals and 305 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 3: enjoy the sext chapter in your life in San Diego 306 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: working as a nurse practitioner. 307 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: I want to know why they didn't stay together, Like 308 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: that's the part that not being answered here is what happened, 309 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: Like this happened so fast and if they really like 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: they are engaged, and yes there's time between filming and 311 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: airing of the show, they broke up, And so I 312 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: just want to know what happened in between then and 313 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: how did this fall apart if they were so confident, 314 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: And neither of them are saying anything negative, which is great, yeah, 315 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: but we're not getting any glimpse set to like how 316 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: this fell apart, which would have been great again to 317 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 2: go back to Wells's point for reunion, to say where 318 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: did this go wrong? How did this not? Where did 319 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: this not continue? And we won't get that. But good 320 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: for them. They're supportive of each other, they're proud of 321 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: the decisions they made. 322 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 4: Just neither of them are together any longer. 323 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: We'll get the answers from one of them in an 324 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: interview sometimes soon. 325 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 2: This kind of segues us Ashley into kind of the 326 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: next set of headlines, talking about some of some big 327 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: headlines around the Golden Bachelor, but also Bachelor and Paradise. 328 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: So here's the headline, and then I want to hear 329 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: your opinion. Golden Bachelorette may come in spring. Now again, 330 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: hear me here may come in spring twenty twenty four, 331 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: but Bachelor and Paradise might get shelved. 332 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 3: This is not something that I want to hear just because, 333 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 3: like obviously I met my husband on the Bachelor on 334 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise. It's a very very meaningful show to 335 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: me and to show that I do really enjoy watching. Still, 336 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: I know that this season wasn't successful as far as 337 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: couples go. I'm sure that the ratings are probably the 338 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: lowest that they have been and the ratings of obviously 339 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: do not compare at all to what Golden is getting. Now, 340 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: this is all coming from Reality Steve. So while the 341 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: article that we're getting as our source is heavy dot com, 342 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: which is a pop culture, you know, news site, it's 343 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 3: Reality Steve that's reporting this, so you know it could 344 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: always take it with a grain of salt. So he 345 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: was sharing information he heard about what ABC is considering, 346 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: but nothing has been confirmed yet. He also noted that 347 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: it would be probably at least two or three months 348 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: before anything official emerges. Okay, so he's being careful in 349 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: his words too. Based on what he hears, he thinks 350 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: that there will be a Golden Bachelorette in twenty twenty four, 351 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: and then the regular Bachelorette season in March like we 352 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: usually get, and then following that there will be the 353 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette. He says that he expects the next season 354 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 3: of The Bachelorette to film in March and then until 355 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: early May, the way it usually does, and then production 356 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: will immediately jump into filming a debut season of the 357 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette. Fans who are rallying for their favorite ladies 358 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: from Garys season will get a chance to be the 359 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette lead, but no firm decision hasn't made yet 360 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: though so reality Steve is saying that the two people 361 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 3: that would make sense as the Bachelorette lead, which is 362 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: just obvious to everybody out there, would either be Faith 363 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: or Leslie. He says that his guests, if it means anything, 364 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: would be Leslie, just because of how everything went down, 365 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: everything she said, the final rows. And then, in my opinion, 366 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: because there has been more time that has passed and 367 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 3: a lot of times they don't choose the runner up 368 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: because it's too fresh of a breakup. Given all this, 369 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: it seems like producers would probably like to film a 370 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 3: little longer of a season for a Golden Bachelorette this time, 371 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 3: perhaps build some travel in which is something that they 372 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: did not do for Gary season. And then he says 373 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: that if that falls into place, does that mean the 374 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: Bachelor in Paradise is gone forever reality, Steve doesn't necessarily 375 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: think that's the case. It's just that they wouldn't be 376 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: prioritizing it. They would make sure that after Bachelorette goes 377 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: right into Golden instead of right into Paradise. 378 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: There's two things I see here. One is I would 379 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: be bummed if Bachelor in Paradise doesn't come back. I 380 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: think this was a hard season. I think it had 381 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: new producers who were kind of figuring out their way, 382 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: and I think the cast was in a sense tired, 383 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: meaning you had a lot like some repeats and then 384 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 2: some people that we've never known before. What I would 385 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 2: love to see, I'm not saying this is what would happen, 386 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: but what I would love to see would be take 387 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: a year off of Bachelor in Paradise. Maybe that's fine, Yeah, 388 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: you get some excitement around it again. Then you would 389 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 2: have maybe two groups of people plus and maybe some 390 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: vets to bring in, so you get like the all 391 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: stars back on the beach. But actually the only thing 392 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: I can think about here is we used to have 393 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: Bachelor Pad and that went away and never came back. 394 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, it didn't spark as much success as Paradise has. 395 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: I think Paradise wouldn't be necessarily over, but I do 396 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: think it might need just a little bit of a refresh, 397 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: Like you're saying, because we need to get the people 398 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 3: that are in the top four on the beach. 399 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to. 400 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: And so maybe if you take some years off, a 401 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 2: year off, come back and they're still trying to figure 402 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: out where this Golden thing fits in. They don't know yet. 403 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: This is you know, the Golden Bachelor was very much 404 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: an experiment. If they would have known that it would 405 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: have been this big of success, they would have done 406 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: it four years ago when they started announcing that they 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 2: were going to try to do it, But instead they 408 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: waited because I don't think they really know what it 409 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: is yet. 410 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: I think I know what it is. I think you, yeah, 411 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: what do you mean? 412 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 3: It's huge and can go on for a long You. 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: Said it the whole time, but it's whoever's in charge 414 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: is not like full. I mean, they might be fully 415 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: convinced now, but if again, if they were fully convinced, 416 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 2: they would be like announcing the next Bachelor and saying, yeah, 417 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: we're still filming it next year, but here's Leslie, Uh, 418 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: you know, she she's gonna be around. 419 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 4: I don't know. It just feels like they're still trying 420 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 4: to figure it feels. 421 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: Like, but yeah, it's just weird that they have Eddie hesitance. 422 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, definitely. 423 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 2: Here's an interesting headline to me Ashley the Golden Bachelor winner. 424 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: Teresa NIST's daughter reveals mom's reaction to Gear Turner's ex scandal. Now, 425 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: if you aren't familiar, there was some information that was 426 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 2: shared about Gary and his past relationships. Gary spoke to 427 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: it in some interviews, specifically with Katie Curic. We didn't 428 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: really dive into it here because there seems to be 429 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: a lot of nuance and a lot of things unknown 430 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: and a lot of different opinions. And at the end 431 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 2: of the day, Gary and Teresa are together and they're 432 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 2: happy and they're planning a future together and that's really 433 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: what it's all about. Like, he wasn't cheating on anybody 434 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: on this show, and so there's nothing to talk about, 435 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: but it still is a little bit shocking, and Teresa's 436 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 2: daughter is talking about it. 437 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's something that the things that came out in 438 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: that article, I would definitely have brought up with a 439 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 3: future father. I guess stepfather if it were if I 440 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: were in this woman's shoes. So this is what Teresa's 441 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: daughter says. She said, my mom and Gary had a 442 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: conversation about it, and I don't exactly know the full story, 443 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: but you know, she's absolutely good with whatever they talked about. 444 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: I think that there's some bit of truth to some 445 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: parts of it, and they're on the same page about that, 446 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 3: and that's kind of good enough for me. 447 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: And it's kind of the philosophy that we took here 448 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: is you know, they spoke about it. Teresa seems to 449 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: be down to continue on there with this relationship, and 450 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: so if she's down and she's excited, then it's good 451 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: enough for us. 452 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 4: We're not going to be the gatekeepers. 453 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, except that I'll say this, okay, I will say 454 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 3: this the story and while yeah, we were only getting 455 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 3: one side of the person's story, it would just make 456 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 3: me be like, I don't know if I want to 457 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: rush into marriage. Like That's what's shocking to me with 458 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: Teresa is like, okay, because some of these things that 459 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: came out about what possibly allegedly happened with Gary and 460 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 3: this other woman that he dated after his wife died. 461 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: It seemed to happen a little bit later into the relationship. 462 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: So if I'd known him for just four or five 463 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 3: months and then I was jumping to the altar, it 464 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 3: would have made me be like, Okay, I can press 465 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 3: some of the brakes a little. 466 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Bit, definitely, unless they've had conversations like they're saying, and 467 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: there wasn't infidelity. Yeah, I know, you know, and some 468 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: of this, you know, I know that some critics have said, well, 469 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 2: Gary sold us a story as the Golden Bachelor, and 470 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: that's the story, and it wasn't the true story. 471 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 4: We don't really know what story he was telling, Like 472 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 4: he wasn't. I mean, I you know, when we. 473 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Watched it, Yes, I realized he was a man who 474 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 2: lost a wife, and I realized he was still emotional 475 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: of that. But I don't other than maybe him saying 476 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: he hadn't kissed somebody in a long time, like I 477 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: don't remember him leaning I don't even remember. But like 478 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: that's some of the stuff that's being said. I don't 479 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: think he tried. I had to play up this story 480 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 2: of poor me. In fact, most of the season, especially 481 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: after Teresa date and the Diner, he was more excited 482 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: about what was in front of him, so there wasn't 483 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 2: a lot of talk about what was what happened in 484 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 2: his past. 485 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 4: And I told you this, Ashley. 486 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: We've had long conversations about this, even watching it and 487 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: being a fan of Gary and a fan of The 488 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: Golden Bachelor. He lives in a lake in Indiana, and 489 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: I know how lakes and Indiana operate, and so. 490 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Guys, I didn't know how lakes and Indiana operate. It 491 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 3: gets really intimate, it gets okay. I was gonna get 492 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: sack and say sexy. 493 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, very sexy. I don't know whatever you want to say. 494 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: Like everybody's pond tuning around with their shirts off, waving 495 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: at each other and drinking at the bars. 496 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: Like it's a culture apparently that I would have had 497 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 3: no idea about. 498 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: You asked me, do you think Gary has dated since 499 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 2: his wife's passing. 500 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 4: I said, of course he has. 501 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's like dated seriously, But I 502 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: was like, I know what this is like in Indiana, 503 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: Like it is wild, it is weird. It is a 504 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: bunch of people all Gary's age, floating around on you know, 505 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 2: pont tuning around the lake and they are there for 506 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: one reason, to have a good time, and so what 507 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: this never was shocking to me. I expected it in 508 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 2: a lot of ways that Gary had definitely had dates 509 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: or intimate react or interactions with other humans. 510 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: And I definitely ate up the fact that he was 511 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: so innocent and never slept with anybody since his wife 512 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: and all that. 513 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 4: So sure, well he's one for all, it's fine. 514 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: And if that's not the case, like obviously, that's fine. 515 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: It's just that's what I thought. 516 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well I don't know. Actually, I'm sorry, I'm. 517 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: Sorry, don't cry. 518 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 4: Two last headlines. 519 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: Rachel Rekia reveals status of relationship with Blake Moyin's and 520 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: if she'd do a solo Bachelorette season. 521 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: She said that she would. She and Blake know that's 522 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 3: not going to happen. He's still sick of dealing with me, 523 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: she says, And then she said she'd only do a 524 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: solo bachelorette journey if Gabby would Lee and her girlfriend 525 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: Rob could co host together and then slap her every 526 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: time she made a bad decision. 527 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 2: That's cute. They obviously love each other. They're the perfect 528 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: people to do this together. Because we sat in a 529 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 2: car with the two of them, and they are as 530 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: Gabby and Rachel are just incredible friends, and they like companions, 531 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: and they support each other in amazing ways, and they 532 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: have this way of saying things to each other that 533 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 2: most people that they weren't really deep friends, it would 534 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 2: be like offensive. But you can tell those two are 535 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: close and they've been through it together because when they 536 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 2: say these things to each other, they're just like, yeah, 537 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: you're right, listen to each other. So I see why 538 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: she want Gabia around. 539 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: Well. 540 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: Final headline is this charity. Losson reveals when she and 541 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: Dotton plan to get married and their upcoming trip. 542 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: Oh yes, they're supposed to go to Greece after the show, 543 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: and they're finally getting to go now that Dancing with 544 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: the Stars is over. She's still doing the tour for 545 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: two weeks in February, and in the meantime, she said 546 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: they'll be moving and spending time with her family over 547 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: the holidays, and then they have sort of set of time. 548 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a specific date, but the 549 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: wedding will be in twenty twenty five, so that's great. 550 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: I love to see another bachelor couple, bachelorette couple get 551 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 3: married because it's been a little while since we've seen 552 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: a couple from the main show get married. 553 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: Sure, this is exciting. Well that's all the headlines we 554 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: have for you today. 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