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What an incredible weekend 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: we had. 38 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, a critical interview we just had, Yeah, Coajo Coacho. 39 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: We had him on for over two hours on the 40 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 4: bus and dude, let me tell you, the first thirty 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 4: minutes kind of asking questions. He's answering questions right like 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 4: as if it's an interview. Maybe not even a full 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: thirty minutes. I would say about twenty minutes in that podcast, 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: the dude ripped his tarp off figuratively not literally and 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 4: just went into storytime. 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 2: Full coach O, full coach O. 47 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: And it's one of those I kind of wish he 48 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 4: was still the head coach of LSU. I don't kind of. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: I absolutely wish he was still the head coach of LSU. 50 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is perfect. 51 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 4: He is perfectly suited personality wise to be a part 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: of Louisiana, the whole thing. He understands the culture of 53 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 4: the people everything, dude. Yeah, and the stories of being 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: at USC bouncing around him, being at Miami with the 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: Rock like, dude, it was amazing. 56 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, it's a little past three right now. 57 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: We're in the middle of our six on this bus. 58 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 2: We will for the fans, keep this one, keep this 59 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: one light, keep it shorter than usual. Yep, because I'm 60 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: fighting right now, for fighting, I'm fighting. 61 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: Gotta keep the enthusiasm. 62 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: I just caught myself a couple of times. You know, 63 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 2: it starts to get a little stuffy. Yeah, with the boys, it. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: Is getting warmer on this place right now. We're all 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 4: breathing a little bit of hot air at this point. One. 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: A couple has done a couple of things and our 67 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: college football our recap. We talked about the All Cast, 68 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 4: how awesome that was being on it. But before that, 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 4: before that, now, we have had an incredible luxury this 70 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 4: year with Flyhouse partnering with us and having the ability 71 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: to fly in a private jet from New York every 72 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: single week when we're doing our fall camp tour, our 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: training camp tour, we get on a private jet and 74 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: it is, dude, it's an incredible luxury to have. We understand, 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 4: how like, how. 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: I need a fight. I need to stop fucking feeling 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: sorry for myself. What are you doing with the yawn 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: overtakes you? 79 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: And right now, right now, I'm fighting for my life 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: right now, not to yawn back. 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: You know. 82 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: Yawns are contagious, Like I can feel it kind of 83 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 4: right here. I'm myself for myself with the possibility of 84 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: even doing it. But yes, shout out JJ and shout 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 4: out fly House because they've hooked us up big time 86 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: this year about flying out of the place. We understand how 87 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: big of a deal that is and it does not 88 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: go past us at all. It's very interesting, however, that 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 4: every week we fly to New York that we are 90 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 4: on a smaller jet. Again, not complaining. This is not 91 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 4: a complain thing. This is just an observational thing. Every 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: time Jeremy Clump has been on a jet with us, 93 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 4: that's a big boy. Now, that's a house that flies 94 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 4: through the air. That thing damn near two stories, right, 95 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: you're the Red River Robbery. Clump's on there. All of 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 4: a sudden, we're in a challenge with three hundred and 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 4: the next week we're in a small little putter going 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: to New York. Yeah, this weekend we fly to Atlanta, 99 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: forty minute flight and we're taking a damn apartment complex 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: in the air. And wouldn't you know it, Jeremy clumps 101 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 4: on the plane. 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,119 Speaker 2: A on the nice plane is always clump. 103 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: It's always clump, and it's always packaged in a certain way. Hey, 104 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 4: we need more guys for the Red. 105 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: Ribberry, So we get it. 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: Twill's birthday. We're gonna get a bigger plane. Hey, SEC Championship, 107 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 4: we're gonnat. We gotta get a bigger plane. Forty minute 108 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: flight and you come and let me just say this, 109 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: you have done without Clump managing everything like Will and 110 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,679 Speaker 4: I basically just got on a plane, had no idea 111 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: where to go, what to do, where we were staying, 112 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 4: what the ride was, how we were gonna eat. We're 113 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 4: essentially newborn infants that are calling an SEC Championship game 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: on the on the ESPN. So Clump's connecting all the dots. 115 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: So for that, I say thank you. But there was 116 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: a situation going to Mercedes Benz Stadium where we drive 117 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: up to the stadium where about an hour ahead of him, 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 4: we're actually supposed to be there. But then we just 119 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: keep on driving and I'll let you take over from 120 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 4: their clump because it was an interesting, interesting vantage point 121 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 4: for me to watch you. 122 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: We're supposed to arrive at two thirty the night before. 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, PAYT the night before is like, yeah, they 124 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: got us arriving at two thirty. Like I like to 125 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: get there, we like, you know, walk the stadium. He 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: starts putting us, he started getting the helmet on. You're like, yeah, 127 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: we do kind of need to walk to the stadium, 128 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: kind of figure we're oute the lay of the land. 129 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: And so we're like, all right, let's get to the 130 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 2: stadium at one thirty. So let's leave clump books to 131 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: the bus or whatever for one o'clock. We get in 132 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: the bus, we're riding over. We're what apparently seven minutes 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: away from the Like we're not far from the stadium whatsoever. 134 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, not at all. 135 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: I think we started driving and forty minutes later after 136 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: we lap around the entire stadium. We realized we're about 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: to come back up on the stop light where which 138 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: we were like twenty five minutes ago, And so Clump 139 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: starts getting a little ante. We're all getting a little antsy, like, yo, 140 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: are we going to even get there on time? Yeah? 141 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: And Taylor's in the front. He's like, Clump, you need 142 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: to come up here, Like, I can't be the one. 143 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm trying to tell the 144 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: guy right. 145 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: All respect to our driver, his English is pretty broken, 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 4: and so he's trying to tell me things. It's more 147 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 4: directional facial expression stuff. I'm thinking myself. 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: And we're yelled to the back of the van, like, hey, Clump, 149 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: where we going? 150 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: Do you learn when we have a van? I'm never 151 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 4: sitting in the front again. It used to be all 152 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: can me in and out? Probably get myself a little 153 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: more leg room. I'll be in the back from here 154 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 4: on out. Boys, I'll be in the back. Worse spot 155 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: to be in the front, man, and I am forever 156 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: Clump will be in the front. I will get my 157 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: ass so far in the back with the least amount 158 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: of responsibility you could possibly have. Clump looks at this guy. 159 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: He comes up, buddy, you getting through to hold on. 160 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 5: I was gonna say, let's let's just address that. 161 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Right, We got to address that. 162 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: I wish we had that camera. 163 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 5: It was a little bit of a tight squeeze. 164 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: My bull was stuck for a minute, wasn't he dude? 165 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: He goes too, because it's like it's like a two 166 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: to one type of situation. So there's a nice little alley, 167 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: but then the front seat is like a little three 168 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 4: seater and then the door. So the crack no joke 169 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: is about yay big. 170 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: All right, that boy got stuck between the seats and 171 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: the door on the wil I squeezed through. And then 172 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: once he snuck through, I said, yeah, I got that 173 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: on fields. Yeah. 174 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: I thought I thought you were gonna post it. 175 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 6: But uh, what what really was concerning when that whole 176 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 6: thing was going is Josh kind of knew where we 177 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 6: were going. And I heard him go, oh, we missed 178 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 6: our our garage, and I'm like, oh no, so we passed. 179 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 6: He's like, oh, we can come up here on the right, 180 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 6: and we go by it again. He was and we 181 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 6: went by that one now and we asked the driver. 182 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 6: We're like, uh, like we have a parking path for 183 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 6: the Red Garage and he said, oh no, I'm trying 184 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 6: to find a spot for after the game where there's 185 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: no traffic so you guys can find me. 186 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: So that's where I'm gonna stop. And we basically were like, we. 187 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: Speak for yourself. 188 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: Club's like, we got a parking pass, Like that's not 189 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: even gonna be an issue. 190 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was basically said, we have a parking pass. 191 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 6: And I was like, we don't even care. I don't 192 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 6: even care about where we get picked up after the game. 193 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: We need to get into the game. Now, you and 194 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 6: I can plan where you pick us up after the game. 195 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 6: We got to get into the game and I don't 196 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 6: know where the where it got lost, but we kept 197 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 6: driving and then we got to a spot and Josh like, 198 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 6: we can get out here and walk. Josh was getting 199 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 6: anty too. It's like I was, I was anty, but 200 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 6: Josh's getting antsy. 201 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 4: Josh was a nanty in the way Josh Pai get's 202 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: antsy and beause we're right, we're. 203 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Right there outside the stadium, but everybody's directing us, Hey, 204 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: you have to go this way, and we're kind of 205 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: getting to the point to why, Hey, we think we 206 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: should just get out of the van right. 207 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: Now, right police officers, so you can go straight and 208 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 4: then go down in the tunnel areahere you're assuming the 209 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: teams are going to go into correct yes, and then 210 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 4: the police officer wants severe right. The guys werell in 211 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: the window like half cracked. The guys like that's not 212 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: gonna fit. You're not gonna be able to You have 213 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: to turn and right here Clump's trying to talk to 214 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: the guy. We end up turning right. As soon as 215 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 4: we turn right, Clump is like, open the door so 216 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: we can get out, and they st He's like, hey, 217 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: let me just. The drivers like, let me just He's like, sir, please, sir, please, sir, 218 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: sure sir. 219 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: Open the door. 220 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: Open the door. Please open the door right now. Open 221 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: the door right now, sir, sir, please please, sir. I'm 222 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 4: in I'm sitting over here. I think at one point 223 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: I even went. 224 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: Open the door. 225 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: Please. I'm getting nervous. Clumb, it's all. 226 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,479 Speaker 2: Clumb starts to open the door while we're driving. Stop 227 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: the man stop. 228 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 4: The van door was bing started. He Clump's opening the 229 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: door himself. 230 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 6: The door is open. I'm telling him to stop. Yes, 231 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 6: I said stop the van. Stop the van, Sir, stop 232 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: the van multiple times. 233 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 4: We get out of this van and I walk over 234 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: to the police officer that just told us you have 235 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: to turn right. I'm like, hey, we got to go 236 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: down this way. We're calling the game. He tells me 237 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 4: straight up, no, shot, that's where I go. I'm gonna 238 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 4: fall back and let somebody else handle the bad guy 239 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: type of thing. I'm not gonna be no motherfucker I'm 240 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: calling you know, I'm not doing that. So I go 241 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: back to lean back. I go clump because I can 242 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 4: already tell clumps in that mode. Right about that, he 243 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: about the body back. Some motherfuckers, I go clump. Clumbs 244 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 4: are walking away. 245 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: I look back. 246 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 4: The police officers alread basically told me to fuck off. 247 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: He's back at his station. He's walked fifteen feet away 248 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: from me, and uh Pate's like, hey, we can walk 249 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: down this way. Follow the road, bro. We followed the road, 250 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: basically walking right next to the car we were in 251 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: for a second. There. It was bad to where luckily. 252 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Jars had the last laugh. 253 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he was right in that one moment. 254 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: In that moment, yeah, totally of everything. He wasn't at 255 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: the end, he was correct. 256 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 5: He was correct. 257 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 6: I did apologize to him. I was like, hey, sorry, 258 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 6: I got a little crazy there, but uh, we got 259 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 6: to the game. 260 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: I would hey, listen when we when we walked out, 261 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: and it was pandemonium. People walking in were rushing to 262 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 4: get to the airport. We're trying to find the van. 263 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 4: There's a piece. But it's like this motherfucker left us, 264 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: you know, doubt. 265 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 6: I know he was telling me like where to go, 266 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 6: and I was getting worried, like I think he left us. 267 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 6: And I was ready for that moment to be like, 268 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 6: this is all my fault. He did this because of 269 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 6: me saying to stop. 270 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 5: But but we got there. 271 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: It was gray as a voice opened the door. Stop 272 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: the van, Stop the van, No stop right here. 273 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 6: I got out and then Will try to get out 274 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: and he starts closing the door on Will. 275 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 5: You wouldn't let Will out. At first, it was it 276 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 5: was fun. You guys didn't hear I'm telling on myself. 277 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: Here. 278 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 5: There was another police officer who walked up. 279 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: And it was a woman and she goes, we were 280 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 6: telling you to turn right because you could have went 281 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: down that way. Just so you know, I don't know 282 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 6: if you guys heard that. She's like the driver was right. 283 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 6: That's what she said to me. 284 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: One. 285 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 4: Oh damn, no, damn. Would you like to address the 286 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 4: allegations that bust one of the boys, only flies on 287 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: big private jets when Jeremy Clump is in attendance. 288 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, I guess I could address that. I think 289 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 6: it's true. I don't have anything to fight against. I 290 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 6: to be honest, that is definitely it is. It has 291 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: added up to be true. You like to be comfortable, 292 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 6: but we all like to be coming and I like 293 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 6: to be similarity. I will be flying with you guys 294 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 6: to New York this week on Wednesday. 295 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: Oh so we're getting a big boy. 296 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 6: No, we are not. We're taking the normal one that 297 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 6: we are grateful for. We will be on that one together. 298 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 4: Again, extremely grateful. 299 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: But what. 300 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 6: Yeah, this will be my first time on the smaller jet. 301 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: You know what sucks. This podcast is for the people, 302 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: by the people, and I'm sure the last thing they 303 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: want to hear from us is bitching about what private 304 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: jet we're getting on. How tone deaf can we possibly be? 305 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: Clump my fault taking care of the. 306 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to becoming. 307 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: This podcast is built on Southwest man, I did fighting 308 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 4: for the exit row. 309 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, hey commercial, four am. 310 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: Driving from what Baton Rouge to New Orleans, Charlotte. 311 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, this weekend just for fun, just to get it. 312 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: Jack and I we still we rore on Southwest on 313 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: the way to Vegas. They tell me we can get 314 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 4: out there. 315 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: Man. 316 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 6: We did stay in one hotel room with three men 317 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: and uh at the sec cham. I love that I 318 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 6: slept on a cot, but I just want to I 319 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 6: slept on a cot. 320 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: And I hope to God that Sherman and Mitch have 321 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 4: the photo of you cut them with g and the 322 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: angle of your legs. 323 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Dog man. 324 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 4: I didn't mind it. Some bros hanging out together on 325 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: a bed that ain't nothing, but they. 326 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: Hangle those knees threw me off. 327 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: Bro something like, he looks comfortable, calm, looks something. Look 328 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: he trying to comfortable. He's trying to he's trying to snuggle. 329 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 5: Come on now, six year anniversary on Sunday. 330 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: Let's congratulations running plus on that dude. Six years. I'd 331 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 4: see the post. 332 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm just comfortable with my skin. Shout out the winds. 333 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: You guys all sleep like comfortably? Like does anybody have 334 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: any night terrors? Or snoring, no breathing. 335 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 6: There was one moment they were making fun of me. 336 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 6: I guess I dose off and like snort. 337 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, we were just hanging out in that room. It's 338 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 7: probably like eleven thirty and me and you you're like 339 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 7: casually were what was it the two end game? 340 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: We finished up two. 341 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 7: We put on like the end of Ocean twelve, going 342 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 7: to Oceans thirteen, just like letting the night die down, 343 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 7: and you kind of hear clumps stop making little remarks 344 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 7: here and there. You can tell he's probably a sleeve 345 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 7: and then you should go, oh my god, he goes. 346 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 7: I just woke myself up with my storing, and he 347 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 7: just woke himself up just from pure snoring. 348 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: So it was beautiful. 349 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 5: But yeah, we had a great time. I mean, three 350 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: dudes in one room doesn't sound ideal. We made it work. 351 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's easy to make it work. Also, at 352 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 7: the hotel we're staying at. Not gonna say the name 353 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 7: the topic of this conversation. 354 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I will say this a moment of gratitude. Uh, 355 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: the morning of the alt cast, we all go down, 356 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: we have coffee, We sit there, we're chopping it up 357 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: about the game that's taking place, and then we kind 358 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: of like get into the year as we're having conversation 359 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: around all these Georgia and Alabama fans. We're sitting in 360 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 4: a really nice tell all the TVs at one point 361 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: have our FanDuel commercial on, and we kind of look 362 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: at each other and we're like, bro, what an insane 363 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: year this has been for us to be sitting here 364 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: about to do it all casts on the actual ESPN 365 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: and we're all just having coffee. It did. It was unbelievable. 366 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 367 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: It was truly unbelievable. 368 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 2: Man preparing had a Georgia coach come up to us 369 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: talking about being familiar with the brand and everything else. 370 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: We had this couple, this married couple that was talking 371 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: about how one's a Georgia fan wants a Bama fan. 372 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: They've been together since twenty twelve and they've went to 373 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: every Alabama Georgia game together and they buy they sitting 374 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: in different sections of the stadium because they're like, we 375 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: don't we won't watch games together. 376 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 7: They're staying in ten to both of them are like, yeah, no, 377 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 7: we don't sit with each other. 378 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's great to know that both those people 379 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: understood each other enough to not put their relationship in jeopardy. Yeah, 380 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: during those times. That's a key to a healthy relationship, 381 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 4: as understanding how the other one kicked ticks. 382 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 383 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: So in the night before getting the go getting the 384 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: partake in Josh Pat's live show, which by the way, 385 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: filled it out. 386 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: Crushed it thousand plus people. 387 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, killed the dude. You walked out the crowd too, 388 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: Like Josh Pa handle himself very well because the crowd 389 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 4: was just full of Georgie and Alabama fans, tense. 390 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: Like, kind of scary. 391 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: He can kind of cut it with a knife. 392 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 393 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: And then Will and I kind of went out. I 394 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 4: started playing heel a little bit. They started ganging up 395 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: on us for being big ten guys. Then you caught 396 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 4: a guy rooting for Kentucky. 397 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, look at this, I just randomly stayed Nebraska. Whoop Kentucky. 398 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: Georgia fans stays, oh what do you Kentucky? Walk at now? Yeah, 399 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: everybody's laughing him. He's pent up, ready to fight the 400 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: BAMA fan behind him. 401 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: Well yeah, one guy wouldn't couldn't get his first question out. 402 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: He was ready to swing on old buddy. 403 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: And then you had the financial guys, they just break 404 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: down a clause. 405 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, that question dude was so he's like, he said, 406 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 6: I have a question in a statement, and he's just 407 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 6: sitting there, going and going and going. I'm watching you, guys, 408 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 6: Jack goes, he's gonna body that. One of these guys 409 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 6: gonna body this guy. I forget one of you said 410 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 6: something that was so funny. 411 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 412 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, your fans are much smarter. 413 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 6: Some something that just hit though. But we're all sitting 414 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 6: there waiting for it to end, and he's just bud. 415 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I looked over it, Josh, what's all for you, buddy? 416 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 4: No way, I don't even know what happened. Parton is 417 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: I think we gotta hire this guy like he got 418 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: he gotta know something we don't. Maybe dude needs a 419 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 4: job with us so we can just kind of understand. 420 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 4: But it was awesome. 421 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. 422 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: Man. 423 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: They love some Josh Pate. We got to meet Josh 424 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: Pate's parents. 425 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: His dad is a legend. His mom too. She was 426 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: great because you can just tell what she's put up 427 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 4: with for the last however many years. But go ahead, 428 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 4: what was his dad saying? 429 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 2: He comes up to me, I'll. 430 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 4: Tell you what, And I go to shake his head. 431 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 4: He goes, you I watch I'm a Bama fan. Now, 432 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 4: all right, you are the nastiest son of a bitch 433 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: I've ever seen play football in my life. It's not hello, 434 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: my name is mister Pate to me, I don't know 435 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: his first name. He doesn't know my name, and we're 436 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 4: like laughing. He goes, but yeah, that's good for you, 437 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: and he's just going into it. 438 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Dad. 439 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: He's like, I guarantee, I guarantee. I'm telling you. You 440 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: know those where I'm like, oh, this dude consumed consumed 441 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: roy D Mercer back in the day's selm bitch I 442 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: ever seen him the football field. But that that's a compliment, 443 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: that's a comment that means you're hell of a player. 444 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: I caught a couple this weekend and I was like, 445 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: maybe I did do it right Dad. At the end, 446 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 4: he's kind of like, you play. You played the game 447 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: where you're supposed to play it now. And then Spikes 448 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 4: comes up during our all casting before he gets on, 449 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: but he like gave me the stamp. He's like, bro, 450 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: I knew like you in High Tower. We played each 451 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: other like you got it High Tower. I was like, Oh, 452 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 4: he's like, you played it the way you're supposed to play. 453 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, mister Spikes, bro, you took heads. You took 454 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: heads in your career. I kind of just I was 455 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 4: like a gnat on the football field. You were an 456 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: absolute bowling ball. Different different world. But he gave some love. Man, 457 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: that was awesome. 458 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: Brandon Spikes, he was a dog bro and he was 459 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: so personable. Got hooked up with him. Man, you got 460 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 2: to come on bus with the boys one day. He's like, 461 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: much respect to what y'all do? I love to come 462 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: on the bus and stories I've heard about Brandon Spike's 463 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 2: just seeing it was just kind of a different I 464 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: didn't know what to expect meeting him. I'm thinking, this 465 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 2: alpha dude. But he was incredible to be around, and 466 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: he was a stud. He was about it when he 467 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: came on the Old cast doing the interviews, getting excited 468 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: about things. Yeah, it's like he could have stayed there 469 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: with us the entire time, talking about the game and 470 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: everything else. But yeah, he's a dog man. I was 471 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: trying to bring up the Luke Combe story that we'd heard. 472 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if his brain was quite there remembering 473 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: it all. Because he's like, that's his answer is Perfect's 474 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: when I kind of what he said, That's why I 475 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 2: kind of started to take souls. 476 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when I started up put people on the ground. Yeah. 477 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 478 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: About after he was done, we were like dapping him 479 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: up and going to be right before the next first break, 480 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 4: and he's like he brought his forty yards. 481 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: I said, sick because I talked about how big of 482 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 2: a fan I was of him, like coming out of Florida, 483 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: and I was like, bro, I remember watching your pro 484 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: day like at my townhouse in college, like mad that 485 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: you ran a four second forty or five second forty. 486 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,959 Speaker 2: He started. He said, yeah, people didn't know I couldn't 487 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: run very well. He's like that that was day I 488 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: was gonna get exposed. 489 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he said he was running and while he's raised 490 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: at i'moon very fast, there goes five million. 491 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: Well he was. 492 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: He was awesome, absolutely awesome. Let's get do it. Let's 493 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 4: get do a couple points. We have to get into 494 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 4: January sixth, Will Compton's favorite holiday. We are doing so. 495 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 4: If those of you that don't know that are watching 496 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: the show right now, Jared and I made a bet 497 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 4: earlier this year hey, you get a six pack by 498 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: jan one. I will give you five thousand dollars if 499 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 4: you do not. I need you to do twenty minutes 500 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: stand up. All right, he shakes my hand. He's very 501 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: nervous about it. Allegedly turns out he played chess on 502 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: my ass because he's now getting out of comedy for 503 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: whatever reason. So January sixth, at Zani's in Nashville, Tennessee, 504 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: seven pm. All right, we are going to do a 505 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 4: a show for Jared Beeman. 506 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: One night only. 507 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 4: Jared Beaman is going to do a full stand up show. 508 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 4: I'll be up there. I'm assuming you're gonna come up 509 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: for a little bit too. I might say hello, Yeah, 510 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: come might say hello. We'll get a couple, we'll be 511 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 4: a couple of guests there. This is not a Bustle 512 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: with the Boys live show. What this is a Jared 513 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: Beaman stand up show, one night only, seven pm, Zany's, 514 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: January sixth, Dude, let's let's let's let's have a full 515 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 4: house for Jared. If you're wonder a but the money 516 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: you guys are was it? Nashville dot Zanies dot com. 517 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 4: That's where you can get your tickets all tickets sold, 518 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 4: We're gonna donate. We're not Bust with the Boys is 519 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: not taking a dollar on this entire thing. We're donating 520 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: everything to charity. Get plus that run plus to that. 521 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, Nashville dot Zanys dot com, you can get 522 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 4: your tickets there. We're looking forward to seeing everybody, special 523 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 4: guests coming in. We'll all come up for a little bit. 524 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 4: We'll talk about all this stuff. We'll have a little 525 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: back and forth. It'll be a great time. But it's 526 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: really about Jared Beaman. That's what it's all about at 527 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: the end of the day. 528 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: Man, I think he's gonna crush man. 529 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: I think he will too Russia, and he's gonna be 530 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 4: so nervous before. But I'm hoping we can get enough 531 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 4: like comedians that have been in the game for a 532 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 4: long time to where when he comes off and he's 533 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 4: like I sounded stupid. There's a couple communis they're like, bro, 534 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 4: you got it, because I believe he does. 535 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing it for a while. 536 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: Jeremy Klump, He's gonna be the one getting all these 537 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: comedians in for us. So that'll be nice, man, that'll 538 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 4: be a good deal. 539 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, on the notice charity as well for the 540 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 2: Dad's Bust with the Boys partnering up with Vanderbilt Children's Hospital, 541 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: where ten percent of merch sales from now until tomorrow 542 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: night go to Vandy's Children's Hospital. We're purchasing toys next 543 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: week and dropping them off at the hospital next week. 544 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: But if you go to BWTV dot com, every item 545 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: that you purchased, ten percent of those merch sales will 546 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: be going to the children's the Vanderbilt Children's Hospital, and 547 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: we are matching every dollar that we raise. So again, 548 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,719 Speaker 2: BWTV dot com, they go buy some merch and help 549 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: us raise money. 550 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 8: Carol on BWTB dot com if you want to donate. 551 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 4: That way, okay, boom So two things BDWTV dot com 552 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: doing it to the Children's Hospital and Nashville dot Zany's 553 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: dot com to get tickets to watch Jared Beeman's first 554 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 4: stand up And I think, are we doing a special 555 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: for him? We are gonna make it a specially. We're 556 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 4: gonna make it a special. It's gonna be a special. Also, 557 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: we'll make Jared do a meet and greenble. We'll have 558 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: a bunch of merch there for all the boys. We'll 559 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 4: make it fun, exciting. We're gonna give away a bunch 560 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 4: of stuff. It'll be fun. You guys will really enjoy it, ma'am. 561 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: What else? 562 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: I saw a question on the intro World Cup in USA? 563 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: Are we going to a game group? D? 564 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 565 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: I mean why not? Got to When is the World Cup? 566 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: It's like all summer right yea, oh boys, that's so 567 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 4: far away. We need to start talk about the Olympics. 568 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: Were start Winter Olympics is coming up, and you guys 569 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 4: remember the four Nations tournament? 570 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: Right? 571 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: We did? 572 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: We We got after Canada's asked. Canada disrespected our ass. 573 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 4: So this needs to be If the world is what 574 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: the world claims to be, it'll be America versus up 575 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: for the golden medal and we're whooping that ass. And 576 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 4: where Milan? We're going to Milan, Milan, Italy. 577 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 2: Jet Yeah, big jet germ. 578 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 4: You'll need a big one to go there, and big 579 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: jet germ to get Milan, all right? That or I 580 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: hope Southwest goes to Milan because I'm going I gotta 581 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 4: get out there. Watch it. 582 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: You're going to go out there? 583 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 4: Fifty stars, thirteen bars brother to how patriotic are you? Yeah? 584 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 4: If we I think given schedule, Given the schedule, if 585 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: we're able to go out there, I'm gonna go out there. 586 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: Got to, right, Yeah, I have to. 587 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 2: I'll watch it from the TV. 588 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: I know you will. 589 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: I'll be kicking it at the house in February sixth 590 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: through twenty second. We got Super Bowl weekend. 591 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: Oh, then I will not be going. I'll be rooting 592 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 4: for you boys though, huh. I'll be rooting for all 593 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 4: you boys out there already fifty yeah, I'm already out 594 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: fifty stars thirteen bars from my TV. I will not 595 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: be running. I'll be on that couch. All right, boys, 596 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 4: let's do a quick break for this thing right here, 597 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 4: and then we're gonna get into that at oseron. 598 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, bud Light seems to be doing something really cool 599 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl. Should we clap? Should we clap 600 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: and get into get into fit? 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That'll tear 614 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: you up? For all Papatine's six and all the dads 615 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: watching you listen to. 616 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 4: That Because of the way you said that, I still 617 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 4: have not listened to that song. I'm so scared to 618 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: cry you. 619 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 2: You've got to check that one. Also White Iverson listen 620 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 2: throw back post Malone. I'll I'll take some white Also 621 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: a White Iverson. Yeah. 622 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So congratulate. Check all that out, dude, it's gonna 623 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: be incredible. We're gonna be out at super Bowl all week. 624 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 4: Bud Light's doing incredible things. Post Malone one night only, 625 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: and also this interview is brought to you by bud Light. 626 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: Bud Letters be with four simple ingredients for a clean 627 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 4: Chris taste. They have a whole bunch of partners, but 628 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 4: if you want to stock up with some bud Light. 629 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 4: You can go to www dot bud light dot com 630 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 4: Ford Slush Locator to find a place near you. 631 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. 632 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: All day long. Boys and girls. Let's get into the 633 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 4: episode with Ed ozeron Coach O. Coach O, this is phenomenal, phenomenal. 634 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 4: Subscribe We're on all right, Coach Anything you saying now 635 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: is being recorded. Obviously, nothing's gonna change the minute you 636 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 4: walked into the shop, man, because you all the way through, 637 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 4: you walked in on the bus before us. A bunch 638 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: of our guys like, fucking Coach O. Man, what a legend, 639 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: what a guy. And it's like it's an absolonal to 640 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 4: give Coach O a ride up a bus. Come run 641 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: the bus. Incredible, incredible stuff. Man, You've been all over 642 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 4: the coaching world, and he'd been around so many great players, 643 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: coached with so many great coaches, had great coaches under 644 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 4: you as well. But l Rose, Louisiana, we talk like, 645 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 4: what's a population, what's it like growing up there? Because 646 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: when I was at Michigan, I had a teammate of 647 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: mine from Baton Rouge Louisiana's name was Drew Dillio. Wind 648 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 4: up dating his sister. So I would go down to 649 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: Baton Rouge and her grandparents were like the creole had 650 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: to talking where I'm just sitting there from Arizona, like 651 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: just smiling and nodding while they're kind of going through everything. 652 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: Is that was taking place in Larro's. 653 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: Hey did the same thing. Man. I think the population 654 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: grew up the six thousand. 655 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: Okay, so we're getting bigger. 656 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: Hey, we're living to buy you. You know when they 657 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: come to to buy you, right, I do not run 658 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: right by you house. But actually my grandparents didn't speak English, 659 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: and my grandparents one hundred and fished off the land, 660 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: and my mother moved from the camp in the swamp 661 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: to my sisters, her sister's home to go to high school. 662 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: So it was a great, great experience. There's a good, 663 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: great picture right there. They I live right on the 664 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: corner right there, there's the Intercosal Canal and the bayer Lafouche, 665 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: and I live not not in that big house, that 666 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: small house right on the. 667 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 4: Side that is absolutely wild, like is it? It was 668 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 4: like creole like a real thing down there, and Laruez 669 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 4: like who when people come from out of town, they 670 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 4: got to be so confused about how people are communicating. 671 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: We'll all speak Cajun French. Yeah. And the thing about it, 672 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: I thought, on you want to speak French and I 673 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: took it in college. We got a little slang about 674 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: all say we don't know what, we're gonna make it up. 675 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, wells on they say, yeah, no, no, I 676 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: feel I. 677 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: Feel you with that, and you got you guys just 678 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: get confusedly, Hey, fuck it, I'm gonna make up my 679 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: own words, right. 680 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: I love that. 681 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: You gotta imagine too. 682 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: That's that's my five year old, that's my daughter. Know 683 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: what's going on? You gonna make something? But hell yeah, honey, 684 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: let's go. 685 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: You gotta imagine to coach O how he's been a 686 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: hell of a coach. He's at the resume everything else. 687 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: But some of his first interviews, like the ad whoever's 688 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: sitting with gott to be listening to him, be like, yeah, 689 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 2: you sure you want to? 690 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: I know you can't what he says, guy knows ball. 691 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: If you want to be your position coach, if you 692 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 2: like him, go ahead. 693 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you get your started coaching? 694 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: You know, my father was kind of like my my 695 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: my coach when I was young and idolized him. Right, 696 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: But there are two things I can do. I can 697 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: shovel shrump. I can coach football. I guess what the 698 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: choice of coaching football was very easy. But you know, 699 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: as soon as I want to trial for pro football, 700 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: in fact, I can't try for the Memphis Show Bulls. 701 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: You got probably too young to remember the Memphis Shore 702 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Bulls the USFL Football League. And I drove home. My 703 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: dad said, what are you gonna do? So I started coaching. 704 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: The next day I went to my college coach. He goes, 705 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, I had a kind of coach, Babay, that's 706 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: my name. Baby, What you gonna do? You don't start coaching? 707 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: He goes, where here, Baby, I don't have a job, 708 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: I said, coach, I don't leave no money. Tomorrow morning, 709 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: eight o'clock can be the staff meet Bay. You you 710 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: suw okay? He said, okay, you can come. But here's 711 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: the deal. He says, you cannot eat in the cafeteria 712 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: and you cannot live in the dormitory. You're not on 713 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: scholarship anymore. I said, coach, that's fine. I took my 714 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: pickup truck, I stole a cot out of the dormitory 715 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: and I moved in the visitor's dressing room. Man, I 716 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: ain't the stadium, yo, what yo? Look, I had a 717 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: bunch of showers, a bunch of lockers. Hell is the 718 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: best I ever lived. Man, I love it. Next day, 719 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: seven thirty staff meet, I was said, never my pen, 720 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: here we go. I never looked back. 721 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: When you're going back and getting that that as your 722 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: first job, Like, how are you kind of carving your 723 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 2: way into you know, finding respect, finding your niche in 724 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: the coaching world, to kind of like earn your keep 725 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: to stay on the staff, and then for them to 726 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: turn it into we got to get him. 727 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: A job exactly. You know, the first day we went 728 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: out to practice, they gave me the defensive ends where 729 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I used to coach the defensive and they gave me 730 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: them what ten minutes individual And I got pretty pissed 731 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: at him, so I said, effort, We're gonna have an 732 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: attitude adjustment period. And I just started banging a bang bang. 733 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Everybody everybody on the field was like, what the world 734 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: is going on over there? Services that I made my mork. 735 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: Physicality? 736 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right? 737 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 4: And what was your where? Where was the next stop? 738 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 4: After that? 739 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: You know? 740 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I went from Northwestern State uh huh, to Magnee State, 741 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: to Arkansas, to Miami and really Arkansas. Miami was my 742 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: big bricks, especially when I went to Miami. 743 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: And Arkansas too. You were a shrint coach. 744 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a strength coach. I was in the 745 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: weight room. Check this out. I made twenty five dollars 746 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: every two weeks. Let me let me tell you I 747 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: got that. You guys loved the story. So I was 748 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: down in the summer shoveling a sharp from the sharp shot. 749 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: That's what I knew how to do, making making fast money. 750 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: And I get a call. Now I'm on the bottom 751 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: of the boat. Now, babe, you got a call from 752 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: Arkansas and back thenning those cell phone with it one thing. 753 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: So I get up there. I have my shovel in 754 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: my hand, my white boots, everything. This guy, Brad Scott 755 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: was at the Universal Arkansas. He goes, hey, man, I 756 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: got a job in a strict coaching room at the 757 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: University Arkansas. You want it? I said, wait a minute. 758 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: I took my shovel whoo threw it in the body. 759 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: I said, hell, yeah, what in the hell is Arkansas? 760 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: Man? 761 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, twenty five dollars every two weeks of living 762 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the Dover Tour and I absolutely loved it. 763 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: Really yes. 764 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: And then after that you go to Miami and you 765 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 4: end up did you end up? You cross paths with 766 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: the Rock? Correct the way? That r Johnson? 767 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: That's right? 768 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: What was that? 769 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: Tell me give me a look into because we all 770 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: see the star he is now rastaw this morning. I 771 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 4: woke up at you know, five point forty five. He's 772 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 4: got a post out an hour and a half before 773 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 4: getting up. Get my card on my at this time 774 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: of my bitch is always on top of all of us. 775 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 4: But what was he like in college? 776 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Great guy? First of all, his nickname was Dewey. We 777 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: didn't know anything about the Rock Dwayne Johnson. He was 778 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: the nicest. Now, back then University of Miami players would 779 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: not call nice. Okay, got it. I was coaching Sap 780 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: and all those guys. But he was the most well 781 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: mannered young man that we coached. Now, he wasn't as 782 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: talented as Sap in those guys, but he's a very 783 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: very tough football player. Great gut to coach. 784 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, did he do you think he did he have 785 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: a chance to make it in the league? You think, 786 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 4: I know he tried for a little bit. 787 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, he didn't have the movement 788 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: skills that most guys had. But I remember one day 789 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: he had a bad practice and his uncle was a wrestler, right, 790 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: and Bob cor Medos recruiter, and we got off the field. 791 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 1: I said, go dog a doing You need to go 792 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: be a Dirk wrestler like your uncle. Later on in life, 793 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: I saw you in the wrestle, I said, dam he 794 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: took good advice. 795 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: So you got to coach Ray Lewis too. 796 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know Ray Ray was. In fact, what 797 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: happened is Ray came in June and I remember Tommy 798 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: Tumboville told us, now he was a little hurt ninety 799 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: pounds wrestler, this is going to be the best linebacker 800 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: ever in un history. And he durn sure it was. Yes, 801 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: he was man coach the d line, but domic tomic coach. 802 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 4: Was you also cross paths with Mike Sullivan because I think, yeah, 803 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: Mike was my assistant offense line coach at the Titans 804 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 4: for nine years. Great guy, one of what three white 805 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: dudes on the University of Miami. Why you got to 806 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 4: be a tough SB right to be? Hadn't be a 807 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: Caucasian on. 808 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: That quad, that's right. And he was he was nasty man, 809 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: was he really? But a good guy off the field 810 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: is nasty, you know, Coach Johnson, he was sharp man. 811 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: He would only let you recruit left tackles and centers. Really, no, huh. 812 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: You're not playing right tackle in high school, you know that. 813 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: And you're not the best athletes on the field. You 814 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: played in defense, right, And he'd take the best defensive 815 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: lineman he could the rest he moved over the office. 816 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: You want a smart center, athletic left tackle, all the 817 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: rest of defensive. 818 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: Line figure it out after that. Yeah, yeah, defensive mean 819 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 4: and then you have a little mental edge too on 820 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: the out side of the offensive line. 821 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: That always like coach in a personality like Warren. 822 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: Sapp well, love Warren, right, but look you got a 823 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: step in the room, that Warren. And we still talk 824 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: about it. This Zale, right, Warren thought, now he will 825 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: argue with today. Back then he thought there was one 826 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: guy on campus at the universal of Maamitic whippers. Ass me, 827 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: now one I can whipping or not, probably not, but 828 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: at least he thought I could. Yeah, but remember he 829 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: came to us as a tight end. He was two 830 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven pounds. He red shirted and played 831 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: tight end the whole red shirt year. Then we had 832 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: to recruit him to play defensive line. But one thing 833 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 1: about Warren, Now, when he got off on that football, 834 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: he was He ran a four to six five forty 835 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: at two seventy five when he got off on that 836 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: football here like a fucking cobra. Man, like a snake. 837 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: He was so fast. That guy was the fastest defensive 838 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: lineman of evercle and nasty with that. 839 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: When he's playing tight end, red shirting at tight end 840 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 4: and you have to recruit him to play DEFENSEI liven 841 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 4: where those conversations, like you bring him in there, Hey, 842 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 4: these are facilities. Is the room you're be looking at? 843 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: Well, look, d line would be meeting. He walked out 844 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: the tight ending room. Hey, war I got a little 845 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: pool boy for you coming here. Man. Me and Bob 846 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: Cormello was we had food for him every day. Man. 847 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: We recruited this ship out of them. But then then 848 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: we got him in the room. Man, we got after 849 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: his ass and he loved it. 850 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: And how quickly from him going down from tight end 851 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 4: the defense line, We're like, okay, yeah, he's immediately. 852 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: That's awesome. 853 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, so after Miami, where was the next stop you? 854 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: After Miami? I got up and you can imagine that. Okay, 855 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm twenty seven, full time, twenty full time living in Miami. 856 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm having fun. Yeah. I two time national TAN coaching 857 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: warsapp living on brinckle Key. Yeah, doing it all right. 858 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: Off the field, annexed were a little no wow. Right, 859 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: So I had to take a year off. So I 860 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: took a year off of coaching. And that wasn't but 861 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't by my choice. It was it was not 862 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: of recommended Abody University. 863 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 4: You go to some of the security parts. Coach O 864 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 4: is also in there with the boys. What the hell 865 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 4: is going on? 866 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: Wow? Well we gotta have the buzz back there. Had 867 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: a good time. But anyway, so I took a year 868 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: off and ah, I had to volunteer tiny Nickels State 869 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: and Tivodaal Louisiana and now worked my way back up. 870 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 4: To Syracuse in the USC or the USC. 871 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, say, Paul Pascalonia was really good to brought me 872 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: back into big time coaching. Then I went to the 873 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: us C. There's two schools I always went to coach 874 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: at I want to be the head coach at l 875 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: shoot the head coach at USC. And then when I 876 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: went to the USC, man, God, what a place. I 877 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: love the. 878 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: Place there in the heyday. 879 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 4: This is when you know Reggie Bush is dating the celebrities. 880 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Matthews, Matthews is in there. 881 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 4: Kyle Matthews in there. You had some crazy squads, and 882 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 4: I know there's been like glory of co Joe. But 883 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: one thing you were incredible at was recruiting. And you 884 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: have a story about like we coach getting fired and 885 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 4: you're still on the recruiting trail and all that. But 886 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 4: what about USC when you got that call, Like, was it, hey, 887 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm on my way immediately, I'm coming. 888 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was at Syracuse and they wanted me to 889 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: stay there. I want to come, I want to go. 890 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: I always wanted to be at UC. And what a 891 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 1: what a place, man? But you know what, you know, 892 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,720 Speaker 1: I was with Paul Hacket. We were getting fired, and 893 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: back then my wife goes shield, I guess, I guess 894 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: we're leaving. I said, no, this place is too strong. 895 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: We will stay. And I went out recruiting for two weeks. 896 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know who the coach was. Gonna be And 897 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: you guys heard the story. It was a Saturday night, 898 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: ten thirty. I'm sitting there watching Long Beach, Polly and 899 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: Low and the play, and a guy named Pete Carroll 900 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: comes up to me. Got my USC stuff on thirty 901 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: eleven'clock Saturday. He goes, Pete Carrol, Yeah, he goes, what 902 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: are you doing? I said, I'm recruiting. He goes for who? 903 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,240 Speaker 1: I said, for us? He goes, din't you all get fired? 904 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago? He goes, they told me if I 905 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: wanted to stay on the gold recruit says you've been 906 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,919 Speaker 1: a recruited for two weeks? Said hell yeah. He goes, 907 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: you know these players over there? Yeah, man, you all right? 908 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: Dornell being Herschel Herschel dinner. You think they can play 909 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: at the USA? I said, why are you asking me that? 910 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: He goes, uh, you know, Pete Peter was out of 911 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: that look about him. You know. He go, well, they 912 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: named me the head coach at the University Soun of 913 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: California Monday afternoon at two thirty. The first thing I 914 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: told him, I said, coach, give me a number. He 915 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: looked at me like, who's this guy? I said, I 916 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: got the number one player in the nation. Sean Cody, 917 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat this school. At seven o'clock on Monday morning. 918 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you, coach. You're gonna be the first 919 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: one to talk to them. He said, really it he's 920 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: that good, he said, yeah, he goes, don't give nobody 921 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: my number, don't don't. I don't know where, but seven 922 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: o'clock that morning, I was there at the high school. Now, 923 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: Show's daddy would let me in the house. He's a 924 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: big irishman, Okay, I know. He started to disappointable boy 925 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: to take the ball. We'll talk about that later. And 926 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: he said, coach, you ain't you ain't recruit my son. 927 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: He going know to day, you know. I told him, 928 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna recruit your son. He's gonna come 929 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: to you. See, I'm a coach for anyway. So we 930 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: went down there, went to the high school coach, uh 931 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: doctor Sean. He says, hey, Eddie, h can you beat 932 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: at my press confine at two thirty? I said, well sure, 933 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: So I went down and look, I've been on the 934 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: road for two weeks. 935 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 4: Right in recruiting for recruiting for somebody that you don't 936 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: know your coaches. You're going to kids. 937 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: You guy, you go to the US. 938 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 4: He who's the coach that we don't know? 939 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: We need you, we don't know. You don't get part 940 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: of the Yeah, they got you know. And then I 941 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: ran in a couple of coaches that were kind of 942 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 1: derogatory on the road. You know what I'm saying. I'll 943 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: tell you I'll be back for you later. That's all 944 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 1: I do. Like Schwartzman, you know. Anyway, so they have 945 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: the press conference. Now, Coach Carrol wasn't the picking the 946 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: litter right, Yeah, I mean retread and all that stuff. 947 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: So he goes, he said, some little guy to know 948 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: who he was. We got her looking on. Hey, you've 949 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: got a staff meeting right after this. So I'll go 950 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: up there. And man, my seat was right near coach 951 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: the head coach. I was right there. It was taken. 952 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: I've seen some people on that damn meet and I 953 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: ain't seen in two years. All they're dressed up on 954 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: the job. Mark chair was wait in the back. Coach goes, look, guys, 955 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 1: you know what I know. It's a great coach in here. 956 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: I ain't keeping nobody. I wanna start fresh. I'm sitting 957 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 1: back there going you ship and he said, all except you, Eddie, 958 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: Let's get to work. Let's coach Carol Man. I went 959 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: from right down right there, and two weeks we went together, man, 960 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: and he was a mentor to me. What a great man, 961 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: what a great heduddy. 962 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: Was about to burn you after the whole recruiting. 963 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's it, man, that's how he does it. 964 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: And he wanted to celebrate we had a great, great 965 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:50,959 Speaker 1: career together. 966 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 4: Man. We had a Kyle and Clay Matthews on here 967 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 4: and they're talking about these team meetings that took place, 968 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 4: coaches taking clothes off, shooting basketball is getting wild. Like 969 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 4: I already know you're one of those coaches. I want 970 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 4: to hear from your vantage point what the thought process 971 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 4: is with p cars like fellas. Here's how we're gonna 972 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 4: get the boys rolled up today, Coach oh get naked 973 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: after because I know it was. It was like a 974 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 4: nuts back then, right They kind of alluded to it 975 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 4: a little bit. 976 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll be careful, I won't say this. 977 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm really develop them up about it, so I don't 978 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: mind thinking works want to go. But anyway, you know, 979 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: coach Coach was a master. He's a master motivator man. 980 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: And we had this this deal that Kennedy Polo was 981 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: our Special Teams coach, and he thought, was this thing. 982 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: We going there and we. 983 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 9: Take off our shirts and get a little boards rolled 984 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 9: up and all and it was like s the Special 985 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 9: Team Wold the Wild everybody nuts man and it was wild. 986 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: So he'd have meat do that. So that was my 987 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,959 Speaker 1: my partner. He come any day now, Headie wild busterday. Okay, coach, 988 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: you got it, you know. I get him there and 989 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: challenge the guys, you know. And back then I was 990 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 1: kind of board up a little bit. It was good. 991 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: It was fun, you know. Anyway, but one day, okay, 992 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: one day he goes, Eddie, come here. Yes, their coach, 993 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: we gotta do Steve wild Bust today. He said, look, 994 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: now here's what's gonna happen. I want you to go 995 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: in there and I want you to tell him it's 996 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: not good enough and get pissed at him. And because 997 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,959 Speaker 1: they listen to me, they were good. And the he said, 998 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: I want you to walk out the door. 999 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 9: I'm walking out of the app the door, and when 1000 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 9: I come back, your ass better be ready, sir, your sir, 1001 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 9: you're sort they're like, God. 1002 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: What's up with coach today? Man? He said to Edie. Now, look, 1003 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm not big into I don't know. I didn't know. 1004 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: I heard a suit dog, but I never met suit 1005 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: dog and wrapping, you know, movie stars. Pete had him 1006 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: all coming around, you know. Yeah, I was just interested 1007 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: getting sacked, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I 1008 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: walk out the door. He said, there's somebody gonna take 1009 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: your place, Eddie, don't tell him anything, let him come in. 1010 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: So I walk out the door. It's freaking Snoop Dog. 1011 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: So instead of me going back in, Snoop DOGG goes 1012 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: back in. The team went nuts. Man. They absolutely loved him. 1013 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: Then he came out the practice. He was hitting the 1014 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: bags with us, Man, he was throwing passes. But that's 1015 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: what Coach Carroll's way of getting to the players and 1016 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: getting us all together. He was a mastermind. Man. 1017 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, do you still follow Coach Carroll and his club 1018 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: right now? 1019 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: Love him? I watched the Raiders the other night, Yeah, I 1020 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: love him. 1021 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 4: In your opinion as a head coach watching a coach 1022 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 4: in the NFL that you used to coach with, what's 1023 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 4: going on in the Raiders organization right now? That needs 1024 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 4: to be switched out. 1025 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: YO. First of all, you know we were I think 1026 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: we're two and six and at the USCA and then 1027 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: we turn it around went six and six all for 1028 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: a season. Wasn't the season? And everybody else saw it's 1029 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna take him a little while to get his people 1030 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: in there and get his system, especially in the NFL. 1031 00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: Look what he did in Seattle. The guys wanted to 1032 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: man and he is going to win. They just got 1033 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: to be patient, as you guys know, there's not a 1034 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: lot of patience in football to the right. 1035 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think, like to you you talk 1036 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: about coach Pete Carroll, like he's known for like connecting, 1037 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: connecting with people, connecting with culture. What are other things 1038 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: you feel like you got to learn from him as 1039 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 2: a head coach before you became a head coach. And 1040 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 2: also you got to even though you're younger and in 1041 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 2: your twenties, you were around Jimmy Johnson. It's a cat 1042 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: that's one at all levels. On a boat now down 1043 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 2: in Florida. People love to kind of seek him out 1044 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: for what he understands because he connects with so many 1045 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 2: personalities as well. 1046 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with Jimmy coach Johnson. Now, I was a 1047 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: g I learned from Coach Johnson. I used to on 1048 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 1: Thursday night. He used to talk to the team bomb 1049 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: so I used to sneak in. He didn't know I 1050 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,279 Speaker 1: was there. I sneak in and listen. The guy was phenomenal. 1051 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: He's a psychiatrist. The players loved him. The biggest, battest 1052 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: player on the team feared him. I give you a jump. 1053 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: You see how his hair is all. Yeah, Coach Johnson 1054 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 1: will go joggle on campus every day. You know, man, 1055 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: we all was with his shirt off. No, I got 1056 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: ridicue for jogging with my shirt off at l s U. Well, 1057 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: Jimmy could, so I couldn't do right. Yeah, I look 1058 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot better with But look, we lived some shotgun officers, 1059 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: So coaches come back. Now, he put that hairspray in there. 1060 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: He'd have that hairspray and he'd have it all right. 1061 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 1: But he'd be coming down the shotgun hall and you 1062 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: coming this way meeting him with Coach Johnson. If he's smiling, 1063 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: you keep on walking. 1064 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 10: Let's go. 1065 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: Man, he has that frown on his face. You take 1066 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: the first door you can and go hide till he passed. 1067 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: I mean he just had that control over you. Man. 1068 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 1: He Jimmy knew how to push buttons. And I also 1069 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: learned from Coach Johnson besides coaching football is how to recruit, 1070 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: how to take special teams guys. I mean take safeties, 1071 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: moving the linebackers, the linebackers, moving the defensive end, defensive end, 1072 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle. He wanted speed, He wanted to speed. 1073 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: The biggest thing here he taught me, He said that 1074 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: you got to have a smart quarterback. Everything that I've 1075 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: done from USC and the l s U was marked 1076 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: off the his blueprint and Coach Carroll's. 1077 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,879 Speaker 2: What what are the things you look for when you're 1078 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 2: finding those hybrid types are going from like safety to 1079 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: backer or backer to d N or d N the 1080 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 2: d tackle. Obviously it's like body genetics and everything else, 1081 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: But are there like philosophies in your mind to where 1082 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 2: you're like, this is how we're gonna be able to 1083 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: make him, you know, get a little bit bigger, move 1084 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: to this position. 1085 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I needed to do was get 1086 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: him in camp and have them through mo drills and 1087 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: not listening to anybody else. Get the height, the waight 1088 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: to speed. Jilly stretching all that stuff, flexibility and then 1089 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: to see their character love football. Now we had some 1090 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: camps though, this is this is what the baby's in 1091 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: camp now? We got after times. Yeah, we want We 1092 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: couldn't have path then and we didn't even have help us. 1093 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: We went full speed. Man, that broken over good, no matter. 1094 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: We want to find out how tough they were and 1095 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: how competitive they were and when it got tough, where 1096 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: they at. You you know, to play at usc to 1097 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: play at Miami, to plant us you you got to 1098 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: be up there, man, And it does It's not all 1099 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: all talent. It's about heart, about grit. You know, you 1100 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: go to Alabama that that that that guy across from you, 1101 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 1: he didn't want to talk about math one hundred, big boy. 1102 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 1: You want his way there. You hit in his way 1103 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: to the NFL, and that's all he wants to prove 1104 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: that day. So you're going to compete at the highest 1105 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 1: level in some very intense environments. So you want guys 1106 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:44,799 Speaker 1: that can do that. 1107 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, who's a cat that you converted that was against 1108 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 2: converting to a different position and is obviously like say, 1109 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 2: worked out in the NFL or you're like you're pumped 1110 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 2: at Fortunately you got him around and them taking that 1111 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 2: advice was. 1112 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: Probably the biggest one tied end defensive line. But a 1113 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: guy you're very familiar with, Clay Matthews. We recruited him 1114 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: as a walk on. Now we knew his dad. We 1115 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: were great friends with the family and his brother, your 1116 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: older brother, Kyle was with us, and Kyle was a safety. 1117 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: But Clay came in there. And I'm not sure that 1118 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: Clay weighed about two hundred and twenty pounds, maybe two 1119 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen, and we recruited Clay to come as 1120 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 1: a walk on to the USC. I went to Ole 1121 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: Miss and Coach Carroll called me, goes heady. You know 1122 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: that Matthews boy, and he's about two fifty right now. 1123 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a player. Clay Matthews, how 1124 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: about that? 1125 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1126 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 1: Probably that's probably our biggest gift as a walk We got. 1127 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 2: Some good Clay Matthews stories, like why wasn't he a 1128 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 2: guy that got a scholarship? 1129 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't tell you that much. I didn't know 1130 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: him that well, but when he got there, he's a 1131 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: great kid. 1132 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 4: I love him that How quickly was he on scholarship? 1133 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure after I left? Yeah, because you know I 1134 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: was there when he's a walk on. I'm sure that 1135 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: next bring coach Carroll saw it. I wasn't there. 1136 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 4: And what was your last year at USC? 1137 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,439 Speaker 1: My last year? Let's see, how was at USC from 1138 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight through two thousand and four? Was my 1139 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: last year? 1140 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: Gotcha? 1141 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,959 Speaker 1: Two thousand back to back? But but I came back. 1142 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: I came back with Kiffin later on and stayed there 1143 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,399 Speaker 1: a couple of years. 1144 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, what was the reason for you to party the 1145 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 4: first time? 1146 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: I got the head job at all? 1147 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 4: Miss head job at ole? Miss gotcha? Okay, so we're 1148 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 4: recruiting these guys. Let's go back in time a little bit. 1149 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,640 Speaker 4: We've had a lot of SEC guys on here. They've 1150 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 4: never admitted it, but we all know that SEC was 1151 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: an IL before an IL. 1152 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: Hey you know that? 1153 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 7: You know? 1154 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,760 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, what's work? 1155 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 4: Way past it now? 1156 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: Just admitt it? Oh good, Hey know what let's say it. Coach, 1157 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: you know you've been not a coaching for a while, 1158 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: and though, how do you adjust at nil? So well, 1159 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 1: it's a minor adjustment. And what do you mean? I said? 1160 00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: Back then, we used to walk through the back door 1161 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: to cash. Now we just got to walk through the 1162 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:04,799 Speaker 1: front door a joke. 1163 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, time joke, and that's a joke. If we're still 1164 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 4: playing in the lanes of jokes. I heard there was 1165 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 4: some like unwritten rules in the SEC, like if the 1166 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 4: kid is in Mississippi, for instance, like no other SEC 1167 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 4: school like Georgia Alabama could offer more than what Mississippi 1168 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 4: State are Ole miss would offer. Is there any truth 1169 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 4: to that at all, because it seems like to me, 1170 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 4: I hate to cut you off, but like playing we 1171 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 4: both played in the Big Ten. He played in the 1172 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:32,799 Speaker 4: Bag twel for two years, in the Big Ten for 1173 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 4: two years. Big Ten is like a conference that like 1174 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 4: we all have our schools and then and that's kind 1175 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 4: of it. The SEC is we have our schools, but 1176 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 4: as soon as the school goes to play bowl games 1177 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 4: or anything else, it's like, fuck you, we're the SEC. 1178 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 4: We don't care about you know, everybody against SEC, which 1179 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 4: I kind of love how everyone kind of stays can 1180 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 4: join at the hit there. So it seems like if 1181 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 4: there was going to be an internal structure of how 1182 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 4: to hey, we're all gonna not tell on each other, 1183 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 4: there's gonna be some you know, unrich matter respect. Yeah, 1184 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 4: there is an old miss in Mississippi State. We're gonna 1185 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 4: offer him fifty k. Alabama can't come in and off 1186 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,440 Speaker 4: sixty k? Is was there any truth or validity joking 1187 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 4: truth or validity to uh these unwritten rules law, you've 1188 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 4: been gone a long time. Totally, we're out. The NBA's 1189 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: are done well. 1190 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: The rules are about to be broken, unwritten rules. But 1191 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: they were broken all the time. Yeah, let me say 1192 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 1: it all depends on good the play was? How about that? 1193 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 4: Fair enough? 1194 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: Can't tell you one great recruiting store between old Mississippi State. 1195 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: Had a young man committed to me for three years, right, 1196 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he gets a little scorely, right, 1197 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 1: so we can't find him? When what was that he 1198 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: hid in back in a back room in a church 1199 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: for four days before signing days in a church, him 1200 00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 1: and his family in the back. 1201 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: Room seeking asylum. 1202 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the good Lord, the good Lord's on that that, uh, 1203 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: that this church wanted to donate him a little bit 1204 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 1: of money if he went to Mississippi State. 1205 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 4: That is crazy. Yeah, so where we're fighting quite a bit? 1206 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: Was it? 1207 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 4: You said you had a kid offer for three years. 1208 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 4: So he's a freshman and you're offering him right, how 1209 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 4: soon in the in the South are we offering guys? 1210 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,759 Speaker 4: Because it you gotta see like these eighth graders now 1211 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 4: they're kind of getting looks in A crazy concept to me, 1212 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 4: but is it really do you recruit? How early are 1213 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 4: you a connect? 1214 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:34,200 Speaker 1: Keep going? 1215 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 4: We gotta start getting after this guy. 1216 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: Bring up a good point. When I went to Syracuse 1217 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: when Paul Pascaloni is great Joba was early recruiting. That's 1218 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,799 Speaker 1: where we learned how to do it. I brought that 1219 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: concept to USC and I said I was the first 1220 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: became the head coach at all miss We started offering 1221 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: juniors and southomost and everybody's like what And I'd offer 1222 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 1: like three hundred and then they go, well, he's only 1223 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: got twenty five scholarship. I well, we had all missed. 1224 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: We may we may get one out of ten. If 1225 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: you at Alabama, you're gonna get it. Maybe everybody you're 1226 00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna offer. So we kind of brought that concept from 1227 00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: from Joe pa from Penn State to USC to my 1228 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 1: dollars to the SEC. Okay, so now, but at all 1229 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 1: all depends who's doing the offer. You can have some 1230 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: assistant coach making some offers. Those are not valid. The 1231 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: only time you have a valid offer is from the 1232 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: head coach when you're sitting with your mama and daddy 1233 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: in his office. Okay, Now, if I offer a kid 1234 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: in the state of Louisiana and I'm the head coach 1235 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: at LSU, I came back off of that offer before 1236 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: offered a kid somewhere else and we decided to go 1237 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: other way with another player, I can back off of 1238 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,440 Speaker 1: that offer and not get as much flat. So it 1239 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: all depends who's doing the offering. Yeah, you know what, 1240 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: you like to send out a bunch of offers. The 1241 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 1: offers nowadays or not as villard as they used to 1242 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: be about ten years ago. 1243 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if a head coach or an assistant coach 1244 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,279 Speaker 2: is making an offer, it's almost like the psychology of 1245 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 2: starting to massage that recruit and knowing that you know, yeah, well, 1246 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,720 Speaker 2: he's when push comes to shove, you go a different 1247 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 2: direction exactly exactly. 1248 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: You know, we used to call it, you're going out 1249 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: fishing on your own. It's like driving the bus on 1250 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,240 Speaker 1: your own. You're responsible. Yeah, But anyway, I think guys 1251 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: offer to get in the game to compete, you know. 1252 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: I think other guys talk about hey, I got an offer. 1253 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: I got an offer. Well what's the offer from? So 1254 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: it all depends the scale of who you get the 1255 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 1: offer from. But to answer your question, yes, eight do 1256 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: get offers by head coaches nowadays. Yeah, it's crazy, but 1257 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:47,680 Speaker 1: they do it to get in the game. 1258 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 4: You get in the game because there's how many stories 1259 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 4: if you heard, were I wanted to go to this 1260 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 4: school but they didn't offer me until farther down the line, 1261 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 4: right before sunning day, and so they feel some type 1262 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 4: of way like, oh, you're only offering me because this 1263 00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 4: school offered me. 1264 00:55:59,120 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: Thanks somebody. 1265 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 4: You guys are for the eighth grade. It's like they've 1266 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 4: wanted me forever since pub for puberty exactly right, what 1267 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 4: did you what did you notice the biggest difference? Obviously Miami. 1268 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure recruiting was relatively easier at Miami and USC 1269 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 4: than opposed to Old Miss. Like what kind of road 1270 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 4: roadblocks did you go into first time head coach at 1271 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 4: Old Miss? You're like, oh, ship, Like these guys aren't 1272 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 4: just biting a chomping at the try to come here? 1273 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 4: Like where did you have maneuver from your recruiting at 1274 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,399 Speaker 4: that point? 1275 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,399 Speaker 1: You know you have to have a bigger pool. Yeah, 1276 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 1: bigger pool. 1277 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 4: So that's why you get into three hundred guys. 1278 00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: That's why I get three hundred guys. We went to Florida. 1279 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, I got dexteram cluster from Florida. You know 1280 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 1281 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I played with Dexter in Tennessee my first couple 1282 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:37,839 Speaker 4: of years. 1283 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, was quick, he was, he was. 1284 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: Older, but he was still very elusive. 1285 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: Great guy too, Yes, great guy. And uh you know 1286 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: back then, they had U b YU internet courses. Yeah, 1287 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: I should I. 1288 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 4: Should have Brigham Young University. 1289 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had internet courses that you can take. I 1290 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: should have invested in the deck. I put a lot 1291 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:02,880 Speaker 1: of a lot of boys than the b YU. Yeah. See, 1292 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 1: we had to. We had to go in and the 1293 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 1: first thing a recruiters say, he's not gonna be eligible. Well, 1294 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: you also have learning disability tests, you have internet courses. 1295 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 1: You have a lot of ways that I learned when 1296 00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: I went out to USC in order to get help 1297 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: the young men to get eligible. You you get LD testing, 1298 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: when they get extra time, all that stuff. So we 1299 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: brought that to ole Miss. We did a lot of 1300 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: that stuff with ole Miss and it was all up 1301 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 1: and up the other Uh, you had Alabama and LSU. 1302 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. In fact, you all 1303 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: remember Ray Kwan Davis. I do not big time defense 1304 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,000 Speaker 1: A lot love him. I went to the school when 1305 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,240 Speaker 1: I was at LSU is assistant and you is a 1306 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 1: Merilian high school and you the people are there and 1307 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: we helped them become eligible. Now, Alabama and the other 1308 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: schools thought that he was gonna be a junior college player. Yeah, 1309 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: so I helped to be eligible. What the hell them? 1310 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 2: Once he got eligible? 1311 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 4: Once he got eligible, you know, that's that's where that 1312 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,720 Speaker 4: back door loving comes. Listen, I know a Crimsons that 1313 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 4: looks nice. But how about this right here? 1314 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, stuff happened competing? I love too. 1315 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, you know, we're trying to help the 1316 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 2: kids get eligible. It's like we're trying to help the 1317 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: kids get eligible so we can get these We got 1318 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 2: to figure find ways to get the kids get football team. 1319 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 4: Was there ever concern for you about these kids who 1320 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,360 Speaker 4: are eligible, like, hey, are they gonna be able to 1321 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 4: pick up a playbook? Or you're like, hey, that's secondary. 1322 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 4: We gotta get them in the door first. 1323 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: You know, you bring up a good point but if 1324 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: a kid is learning disabled in college, we have the 1325 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:47,680 Speaker 1: ability to have some learning disabled tutors to help them out. Yeah, 1326 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,120 Speaker 1: and and was it a high school? They don't have them. 1327 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: So it all depends, you know. The first thing that 1328 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: I did and when I we talked about character when 1329 00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: I went to the Goddess Council, guess where I looked 1330 00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: at first class attendance. You guys both played right. 1331 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, class checkers the whole thing. 1332 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: If he was but but if that guy was going 1333 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 1: to school and he was trying, I'm gonna recruit him. 1334 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: But if he was late, he ain't going to school. 1335 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,400 Speaker 1: Ain't recruiting has ass Then the next thing, you know, 1336 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: where I went to the security guard that worked in 1337 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: the parking line, say, man, when Johnny comes to school, 1338 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: what's going on, coach? He's early, his uncle brings him. 1339 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: He's always well dressed, he got his booked in his hand, studying. Yeah, 1340 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: what happens when when Johnny comes to school, Coach, you 1341 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,840 Speaker 1: don't want no part of it. He comes to different 1342 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,600 Speaker 1: every day, come a different car, He not dressed, he 1343 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: smelled like they've been doing stuff that he's not supposed 1344 00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,479 Speaker 1: to do. He's late. Sometimes you can learn so much 1345 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: by getting your feet on the ground and asking questions 1346 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: of the right people. 1347 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 2: That's fascinating to listen to ya. 1348 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 4: Going out and getting like everyone thinks you go talk 1349 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 4: to the head coach, a position coach, a coordinator, and 1350 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 4: that's kind of how you make your decision. But to 1351 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,080 Speaker 4: go that's that's awesome to do the nuances of the 1352 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 4: guidance counselor of the security guard. But that takes a 1353 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 4: long time. Yeah, but if you're like, if you have 1354 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 4: to go through that process, it's boots on the ground. 1355 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 4: As a head coach and as an assistant coach. How 1356 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 4: many days of the year are you on the road? 1357 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 1: Well, first of an assistant coach, I hit twelve schools 1358 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: a day. Twelve note you can do that. Yeah, I 1359 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: didn't do to Mississippi. I don't anyway. I don't know 1360 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: if you get twelve school of the week that Joe 1361 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:47,040 Speaker 1: ell I love those guys. But you know, speaking about 1362 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: the security guard, I knew a guy so well at 1363 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 1: a major high school in Los Angeles. He would call 1364 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,320 Speaker 1: me when the other schools will come to visit the kid. 1365 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Then I'd have him go sit at the meeting and 1366 01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: he right down notes, and he tell me what the 1367 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: moon of schools are talent. 1368 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 4: No ship out there playing security guard out there like 1369 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 4: a c CIA that boy. 1370 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,840 Speaker 1: Hey that that security gord eate more state than it's 1371 01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: not the room than anybody. 1372 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 2: Oh that's no, that is uh, that is cool to 1373 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: hear too, Like trying to figure out the character of 1374 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: a guy, because my head coach is Bo Polini in 1375 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 2: Nebraska and he this man did not play about did 1376 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 2: not play about class. He's like, I'm not here to babysit. 1377 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 2: If you ain't gonna do it money through Friday, you 1378 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 2: ain't gonna be out there on Saturday. 1379 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1380 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, the mother the class thing. I was a cat 1381 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 4: that will had to be. I take an online courses 1382 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400 Speaker 4: my senior year. My freshman year of high school was awful, 1383 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 4: so I was like doing the full senior schedule plus 1384 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 4: a full semester online. End up being eligible. And then 1385 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 4: when I get to Michigan, They're like, hey, what do 1386 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:52,640 Speaker 4: you want to do, And I was like, I'm going 1387 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 4: to the NFL, so just put me in whatever, And 1388 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 4: so they put me in all the same classes that 1389 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 4: are like, you know, there's fifteen other football players as well, 1390 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,400 Speaker 4: and quickly learned my first year, like, oh, the class 1391 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 4: checkers come to every single one of these classes. This 1392 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,240 Speaker 4: is awful. And I would get six a ms every 1393 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 4: other day. So eventually I learned how you got to 1394 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 4: take a couple of X classes outside of the perimeter 1395 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 4: of what these regular football players are taking. See, you 1396 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 4: give yourself a little leeway here and there, They're not 1397 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,439 Speaker 4: gonna come and just haunt you down. So we've all 1398 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 4: got tricks, Coach, We've all, We've all got tricks. Oh, 1399 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 4: miss happens? Where to then back to usc. 1400 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: Ole missed life lesson for us all. I get fired. 1401 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 1: I didn't do well, Coach Carrol told me, he said, ed, 1402 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: you cannot coach the team like it coached the defensive line. Look, man, 1403 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,760 Speaker 1: I had three of these. I had coaches and ice doves. 1404 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: I had coaches at IVS. The doctors come to me say, coach, 1405 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: it looks like a mash unit. What the hell are 1406 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 1: you doing? Cried Gride. That just I just was my mentality. 1407 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 1: And so I get we'll get fired, and I'm going 1408 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: home and I'll call one of my mentors, and I'm 1409 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:01,919 Speaker 1: naturally doing what right, raaming this and blaming that. Go hey, 1410 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,320 Speaker 1: Erro's wrong. The best piece of advice I got and 1411 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 1: coaching from a mind coach. He says, you know those 1412 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: may or may not be true. He said, you can't 1413 01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: change that. The only person you can change is you. 1414 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: He said, now, what you going to change about you? 1415 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Big boy? God dog? None of us want to hear 1416 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,920 Speaker 1: that right now. I didn't want to hear that, Shah. 1417 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 1: But I spent whatever time it was looking at the 1418 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: things that I did wrong and how can I improve 1419 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,959 Speaker 1: to get better? Watch coaches, shows, studies, people, and guess 1420 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: was the two things I came up with. If these 1421 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: players know how much I love them, dislike my kids, 1422 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 1: they'll go through a wall for you. And if we 1423 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:58,080 Speaker 1: can't show them that we have the knowledge to get 1424 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: them NFL NFL right. I want to do that right. 1425 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: All conference was to get them to where they want 1426 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,880 Speaker 1: to go. We're good. And those are the two things 1427 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I stuck with. And the third one was I will 1428 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: not show any coach any disrespect as much as I 1429 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: can on the football field, and I will bring him 1430 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,680 Speaker 1: in and say the next day I'll calm down. I 1431 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,880 Speaker 1: want to make a decision that night. God do get 1432 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 1: a little while on the field and look at the 1433 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,000 Speaker 1: film and they walk down the hall and say, hey, Jimmy, 1434 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,200 Speaker 1: turn on play twenty four. Man, tell me about that 1435 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,479 Speaker 1: left tack. What we're gonna do, hey, coach? And here's 1436 01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: the you know, here's the worst thing a coach can do. Hey, 1437 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: what what the y'all? Please? You know? Hey, what's that 1438 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: linebacker doing? 1439 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 4: Coach? 1440 01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell he's doing? Well, if 1441 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,640 Speaker 1: you don't know what the hell is he's doing, who's 1442 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: gonna know? Here's the proper answer, Coach. I gotta get 1443 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 1: his alignment better. He's supposed to be fut the foot 1444 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: on the center. He's inside front spitting the cross. I'm 1445 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna cover that. And then, Coach, I gotta get his 1446 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: feet right. So I'm gonna do some drills with his 1447 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 1: feet today and then I'm gonna get him on a sled. Teach, 1448 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 1: you amount to come out of his hips and get 1449 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,919 Speaker 1: off a block. What the coach gave me a solution? Yeah? 1450 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: You know what? 1451 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Any accountability as well accountability? 1452 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Right, you don't never throw your players on the bus. Man. 1453 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: You guys know that if your coach does, you don't need 1454 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 1: a bus. What you gonna do with them? 1455 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:14,480 Speaker 4: Be passed. 1456 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, gets tight. What's going happen when you playing on 1457 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Hio State fall? 1458 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 2: The trust is kind of gone. You're like, I know 1459 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 2: you don't go If you're talking to me like this 1460 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:24,960 Speaker 2: right now, I know you don't got my back in 1461 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 2: the room. 1462 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 4: No doubt. And it's even more than like in the 1463 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:29,720 Speaker 4: NFL too, because they go on these means if they 1464 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 4: make decisions about rosters, and if you if a coach 1465 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:33,440 Speaker 4: is talking to you a certain way in front of 1466 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 4: your face, you can only imagine what's taking place. 1467 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: You guys know this, okay. When a coach stands up 1468 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: in front of men, Now, I think a coach needs 1469 01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,360 Speaker 1: to be a leader of men, okay, And the only 1470 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 1: way to be a leader of men is to be 1471 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: a damn man. I'm not sure sure that goes on 1472 01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: nowadays from what I'm saying on TV. Okay, but when 1473 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 1: you stand up there, you transparent. If I'm coaching y'all, 1474 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: y'all know, y'all know all about me. Man, You don't 1475 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,600 Speaker 1: know who I am, don't know where I'm coming from. 1476 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: You know I'm first in the fight with you. You know 1477 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 1: I recruited you. You normal be there for you. But 1478 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna get on your ass to get 1479 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: you better. You know, I go to the grocery store. 1480 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 1: You know my personal habits, you know everything. He's transparent. 1481 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 1: If a coach goes up there, it's a fraud to 1482 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: his players, it's ober and you guys know it. You'll 1483 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 1: know true and you know who are fraud. So I 1484 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 1: think those qualities in the head coach have to be there. 1485 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,400 Speaker 2: So after old miss, you go to USC, you go 1486 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 2: back to USC. 1487 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: I go to Saints. 1488 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 2: Oh, you go to the Saints a little NFL, try. 1489 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,439 Speaker 1: The NFL for a little bit, and uh, I work 1490 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: for Sean Pateon. Well, what a great coach man, what 1491 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: a great offensive line. But you know what I missed college. 1492 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 1: I missed the recruiting. I missed you know, I've always 1493 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,480 Speaker 1: been a father figures to these guys. And in this 1494 01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,000 Speaker 1: NFL you got then it happened and uh and they 1495 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,240 Speaker 1: make a lot more money than you either a little 1496 01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:00,120 Speaker 1: man on the totem pole. So long story short, I 1497 01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 1: went back into uh college football with the Tennessee with Kiffin. 1498 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: We'll stayed there for you, and then went back to 1499 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: USC and then they fired coach after two seasons. I believe. 1500 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: And the third season I became interim head coach and 1501 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 1: we had a good run. We had a real good run. 1502 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 1: Then that's when the E was on the staff. He 1503 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: with us Chacklar. 1504 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 4: Obviously Lane Kiffin, he's been consuming the sports media right 1505 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 4: now with the decision, how he went about the decision, everything, Like, 1506 01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 4: give us some insight on Lane Kiffin and the kind 1507 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 4: of individual he is. 1508 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1509 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 2: What's crazy too, is like just listen to the coaching 1510 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 2: history you were at because the Tennessee stuff gets brought 1511 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 2: up when all this is going down when he leaves 1512 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Ole Miss and talking about just all the stuff that 1513 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 2: Lank Kiffin is known for. But knowing that you're at 1514 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 2: Tennessee with him, you go out to USC with him. 1515 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,680 Speaker 2: You've been a head coach at Ole Miss, You've been 1516 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 2: a head coach at LSU. 1517 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Lane treated me with utmost respect. I was like head 1518 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,000 Speaker 1: coach number two on the staff. The reason I went 1519 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: back with him because he and I were tight at 1520 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the at USC. He was a young coach now, but man, 1521 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 1: a great, great recruiter, a great evaluator, had a bright 1522 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: future ahead. We stay close. I want to go work 1523 01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: with his daddy, Mont Kiffin That's the reason I went 1524 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: to Tennessee. And then the USC job comes open. Look, 1525 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Tennessee, but USC and we had been 1526 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,840 Speaker 1: there in Tennessee's just a little bit different. I believe 1527 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,639 Speaker 1: we would have stayed at Tennessee, we'd have won the 1528 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,880 Speaker 1: SEC East, and we would have played in the championship 1529 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 1: for years to come. We were doing a tremendous job there, 1530 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: tremendous job recruiting. So we go to we go to 1531 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 1: uh Jack to go to the USC, and man, he 1532 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,680 Speaker 1: does good the first year and the second year is 1533 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 1: things kind of kind of went south a little bit. 1534 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,840 Speaker 4: How they go south? Just wins and losses or we 1535 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,639 Speaker 4: were losing the locker room, Like what took place? 1536 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, we're doing good at offense, and 1537 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 1: that was shocking to me. But we got beat sixty 1538 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,439 Speaker 1: two to something borregaon and and that's when I knew 1539 01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: we had to go from the four to three to 1540 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: the three. And I felt like burying myself in the 1541 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: coliseum that day. But Lane asked me, what do you 1542 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: think's wrong? Said, we gott to go three four, and 1543 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 1: we went through three four. Man it worked out a 1544 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 1: little bit. Did he lose the locker room a little bit. Uh. 1545 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on in personal life. 1546 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: Uh I just went to work and went home. But 1547 01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: I know thing was starting to slide a little bit. 1548 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: And so you know, he got fired on the tour 1549 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 1: back and then the next day they dad interim head coach. 1550 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: And all the things that had learned, all the things 1551 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: that I said I was gonna do, now it was 1552 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: time to take my little notebook out and learn, and yeah, 1553 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: do it. Now. 1554 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:37,880 Speaker 4: How does your relationship you talking about you and Lane 1555 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,679 Speaker 4: having a great relationship. He gets fired and they're like, hey, 1556 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 4: now you are the head coach. Does that change any 1557 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,600 Speaker 4: bit of a dyamic? Does he feel some type of 1558 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 4: way about that? 1559 01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: No, he was recommended me for the job. He said, 1560 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: coach was doing doing a great job, and we had 1561 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 1: won five games in a row. He said, I rect 1562 01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,280 Speaker 1: I think usc ough to hire. And look after that, 1563 01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,920 Speaker 1: he's always asked me to go with him. He's always 1564 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: asked me to be part of his staff. And uh 1565 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 1: so we have a great race. 1566 01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 4: Did you throughout this process, did you have any conversations 1567 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 4: with him about possibly being with his staff at l 1568 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 4: s U. 1569 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: You know, here's what happened. He actually, is. 1570 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 4: There not a better personality for bats than this man? 1571 01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,599 Speaker 1: Like here? Yeah, he had he had actually he called 1572 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: last year. He had called. He was gonna get a 1573 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:23,800 Speaker 1: job and he wanted to know if I want to go. 1574 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm not ready to do that. 1575 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm with my boys. I got three boys coaching right 1576 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: now and I'm still still in the processes of getting there, 1577 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,720 Speaker 1: getting there, getting them going a solid foundation. But he 1578 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,720 Speaker 1: had called, he said, you know, what do you think 1579 01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,639 Speaker 1: about l SH And I gave him nothing but rave 1580 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: you know, great great reviews, and uh, it never came through. 1581 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 1: Like you know, he never called me and say you 1582 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: want to come. I never called him and say I 1583 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,439 Speaker 1: want to go. You know, he knew I was going out. 1584 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,640 Speaker 1: I was planning on going back and coaching. Uh what 1585 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 1: LSU been a good fit with him? Do I think so? Yes? 1586 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: But you know, as a head coach, when you're going 1587 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 1: to a situation like that, you got to fill out 1588 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 1: the labor land and you got to do his best 1589 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,519 Speaker 1: for you. So he's got his defensive staff. He hadn't 1590 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,240 Speaker 1: called me, which is good. I wish him the bessel up. 1591 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, what are your thoughts when him being eleven and 1592 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,600 Speaker 2: one at Old miss and making a switch to l 1593 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 2: s U, knowing that you've been in both you've been 1594 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,679 Speaker 2: in both of those worlds because it's just that much 1595 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 2: more of a premier job than All Miss Because again, 1596 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,120 Speaker 2: it's like, you're in the business to win a national title. 1597 01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,760 Speaker 2: You can win one this year because you're going to 1598 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 2: take a you know you're going in with LSU trying 1599 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,920 Speaker 2: to like, I want to go win a national title 1600 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 2: in the future. It's like, man, you can win right now. 1601 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, when you at LSU, you can play 1602 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,160 Speaker 1: with Georgia and Alabama on a consistent basis because you 1603 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: have a photo recruiting gown. I don't know if he 1604 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: feels like he could do that at Obis in Toby, 1605 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: but you can go there's justin Jefferson, and there's there's 1606 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: a there's Jamaar Chase, and there's myliite neighbors within two 1607 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 1: hours driving this of each other and three of the 1608 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,439 Speaker 1: most prolific NFL receivers. It's a fertile recruiting ground. It's 1609 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 1: much more fertile than the state of Mississippi per capita LS. 1610 01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 1: She's got more player in the NFL than anybody. So 1611 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,040 Speaker 1: I think that's that's the reason he. 1612 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 2: Do the state of Louisiana to that. 1613 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, well with N I L and everything like that, 1614 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 4: if you have enough money coming into your program. The 1615 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 4: way it works now is like who's gonna pay me 1616 01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:27,880 Speaker 4: the most money? Like the loyalty doesn't. 1617 01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a. 1618 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,280 Speaker 4: Couple of outliers that are like I grew up an 1619 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:31,880 Speaker 4: LSU tire fan, I grew up in Alabama. 1620 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Fan. 1621 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,960 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to these schools regardless. But for the 1622 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 4: most part, these kids will go to the highest bidder. 1623 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, that's right. But when when when it's close, 1624 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: they gonna want to stay in Louisiana, right, that's right. 1625 01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: And the recruiting still comes on, you know what I'm saying, 1626 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 1: and the development the guys are great office of mine though. Yeah, 1627 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: what happens with Lane is that is Miny Kiffin. You 1628 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,120 Speaker 1: know he grew up on football. On game there. I've 1629 01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,920 Speaker 1: never seen anybody see all twenty two. Now. You guys 1630 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: played You played line, I played line. We looked at 1631 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,960 Speaker 1: each other, right, yeah, we didn't see the scoreboard nothing else. 1632 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 1: You whip my ass, I whip you over getting that 1633 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: in a bad mood and that's it. That was that 1634 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 1: was our job. Fine backer, you at least stood up 1635 01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: and saw a formation. You know, I saw it. I 1636 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: saw hies. You know. My coach told me whip his ass, 1637 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,679 Speaker 1: get to the ball and get down a bad mood 1638 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 1: and come back. You think I will call the time out. No, 1639 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: So you were more priviate to formations and adjustments. And 1640 01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 1: like the quarterback right lane sees all twenty two in 1641 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: the field in slow motions and he's gonna get you. Now, 1642 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna get He's knows what you're doing on defense 1643 01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:39,479 Speaker 1: and he's gonna get You know, every offense has a weakness, 1644 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: every defense has a weakness. He knows how to get 1645 01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,760 Speaker 1: you a by formations, by shifts, and he likes to 1646 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: run the football. I mean, the guy led the SEC 1647 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,000 Speaker 1: in Russian the last five years. Think about that ole 1648 01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: miss led the SEC in Russia the last five years. 1649 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 1: It goes to tell you who he is. Is a play 1650 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: called yeah start dude. Yeah. 1651 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 4: I wonder if he's gonna get it done at l S. 1652 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 4: It seems like he's got all the tools in the 1653 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 4: world to get it done. 1654 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 2: Out there are you wanting to get back in the 1655 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,519 Speaker 2: coaching game. I was seeing I don't know how valid 1656 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 2: everything is, but I saw that you were in talks 1657 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 2: potentially Arkansas this year. Yeah, you mentioned your boys. They're 1658 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,720 Speaker 2: in the coaching They're in the coaching world. You don't 1659 01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 2: know if you necessarily want to get back into it. Like, 1660 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 2: what does your future look like for you wanting to 1661 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 2: get back into coaching now? 1662 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I've planned. I moved out of Miami. I moved back 1663 01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,639 Speaker 1: to Baton Rouge in case we do get a job. 1664 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I uh talk to athletic director at Arkansas one time. 1665 01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,920 Speaker 1: That was it. But I have not had a job 1666 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: offer that would fit to what I want to do now. 1667 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: And I don't need to be a head coach. I 1668 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: could be a defensive line coach, would be a recruiting coordinator. 1669 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,160 Speaker 1: But if it fits what I want to get done 1670 01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: at this part of my life, I will take it. 1671 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, she was good for me, I don't 1672 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: have to take it. Yeah, so it's still work. I 1673 01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: am in bad buyout? 1674 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, a nice Well isn't here a perfect world right now? 1675 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 4: If I said you can have any job you want, 1676 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:03,639 Speaker 4: how you want to have it, what is the perfect 1677 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 4: thing for you at this stage. 1678 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,679 Speaker 2: You can't be a head coach. 1679 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: I would go be a defensive line coach at a 1680 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,440 Speaker 1: major program. 1681 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 4: What major pro we're talking about your perfect world, right? 1682 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know what? A team that competes I won't 1683 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,440 Speaker 1: say a school. A team that competes for the national championship. 1684 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: A team that has the power and the recruiting base 1685 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,559 Speaker 1: to compete in the National Championship. You seize one of 1686 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:35,560 Speaker 1: them schools. One of them schools. Oh, I respect Alabama. 1687 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: This boy ain't never go to coach at Alabama. 1688 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 4: Ain't gonna do it Oil till you goes. Yeah, you 1689 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,280 Speaker 4: can't draw a line in the sand. 1690 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:51,040 Speaker 1: Ben State, Oh State, Nebraska, Florida, Nebraska. 1691 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 10: You know, hey, you ain't going to Nebraska. Yeah, Nebraska. 1692 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 10: Penn State had a in the hundreds recruiting classes. 1693 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 1: He just really a big school with a coach that 1694 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be intimidated by me being on the staff. Now, 1695 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I want the coach 1696 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: to have enough gumption and know that I'm there to 1697 01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 1: help him and to be able to recruit a high 1698 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 1: level and have the NL money and compete and win championships. 1699 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 4: Now, you know, Tennessee just fired their defensive coordinator. 1700 01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 1: Hey, I love Tennessee. I did. I really didn't, said, 1701 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 1: now coached that for one year. It's a football school. 1702 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,479 Speaker 1: I loved it. 1703 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 2: Now, were you nervous when you guys were taking that 1704 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 2: job going to USC knowing you were kind of like 1705 01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 2: one and one and out with Tennessee, knowing kind of 1706 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 2: where you were sitting at potential to win the division 1707 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,000 Speaker 2: in the SEC and win a championship. 1708 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: No, because I knew the power of USC. Now. I 1709 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: happened to be in Louisiana visiting my family when this 1710 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,799 Speaker 1: all happened, and Mike Garrett said, look like you money, 1711 01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: and that was that was the deal, those three. I 1712 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,080 Speaker 1: was born of porn of that deal. So I'm in 1713 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,720 Speaker 1: the I'm in Louisia. Said look, man, I need you 1714 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 1: to be in Los Angeles night we're taking the USC JO. 1715 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: I said, great. But then I saw the beds burning 1716 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,679 Speaker 1: on campus and stuff. I thought it was pretty wild. 1717 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,840 Speaker 1: It was wild on Capa that night because everybody liked Laying. 1718 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 1: He had a great posona bottom self, and we were 1719 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 1: doing a great job recruiting. 1720 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,479 Speaker 2: Damn Jack tough Jack is He went into massive Tennessee 1721 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,200 Speaker 2: fan like he was massive Tennessee. We're opening up some 1722 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,160 Speaker 2: bad wounds right now. 1723 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: Hey how about Rocket top man. 1724 01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 5: I can't beat it up there in Knoxville the eight 1725 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 5: sixth five. 1726 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 7: I think that what hurt the most is hearing you 1727 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,599 Speaker 7: say that if you and Lane hadn't left, you all 1728 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,760 Speaker 7: would have been competing for the championships. 1729 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,519 Speaker 5: And we went into a dark era after that. 1730 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 1: But we'll have you back with open arms. I'm just 1731 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: a call away. But look here, a part of my 1732 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: contract is I gotta have all the chicken fried steak 1733 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,840 Speaker 1: with white gravy on cow holes right down on the river. 1734 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 7: Consider it done market tractually. 1735 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 4: You're getting done for him right now. It's already done. 1736 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,040 Speaker 4: Hypel's already Yeah, he's he's listening to the entire podcast 1737 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 4: right now. 1738 01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 1: The holes almost three times a week. They love me. 1739 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 5: Callouns is great. 1740 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 2: Can't be with the with the awareness that you have 1741 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,439 Speaker 2: you mentioned like with the head coaches not intimidated by 1742 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 2: being the staff, Like what are those things that? What 1743 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 2: are those things? You'd be able to explain of the 1744 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 2: intimidation factor that you that you could, I guess how real? 1745 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,599 Speaker 4: How real is it you going to the coaching staff 1746 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,320 Speaker 4: and a head coach being like, yeah, you know, hey, 1747 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 4: what was this assistant coach? Well, stepping on my toes a. 1748 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:43,200 Speaker 1: Little bit, that's eighty five percent of them goes. They 1749 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:48,720 Speaker 1: called me. They already proved it. But you know if 1750 01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,160 Speaker 1: I got you would you know that that length like 1751 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: lame like that he want that good? Hey, this guy 1752 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: is going to help me win. Some coaches, there are 1753 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: some coaches that would be receptive to me being there. 1754 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 1: You know, hey, man, this guy is gonna help me. 1755 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 1: There's some coaches that don't know me. Well I think 1756 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to know me. And it really said, okay, 1757 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I need this guy to help me win a championship 1758 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,600 Speaker 1: like coach Carroll did, like like other people did. But 1759 01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 1: there's some guys are going he is he coming here 1760 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 1: and get the head job? Is he gonna? Can I 1761 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 1: handle this? Stories? And I don't want to. I don't. 1762 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to be that. I don't. I don't 1763 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,519 Speaker 1: want to be part of it. Yeah, unless I have to. 1764 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,760 Speaker 4: You mentioned Penn State. You don't straighten me as a 1765 01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 4: guy that wants to go up north very much like 1766 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:39,920 Speaker 4: are you you drawn a line you can't run? 1767 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,040 Speaker 2: Out there with your shirt off all the time. 1768 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:44,680 Speaker 4: You definitely straight me as like an SEC. 1769 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:49,000 Speaker 2: Coach Eckler does. 1770 01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,080 Speaker 1: But well, you bring up a good point. I was 1771 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: at Syracuse for three years ninety five ninety sixty seven. 1772 01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,640 Speaker 1: It was so foreign to me. Now, Coach Paslona was 1773 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: great to me. But when they when it snowed May first, 1774 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 1: this boy from the South had enough. My wife was 1775 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 1: pregnant for my twin boys, and I was shoveling snow 1776 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 1: to go recruiting, Oh May first, and she goes, why 1777 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 1: you look so pissed. I said, it's freaking snowing. Baby. 1778 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:19,360 Speaker 1: She was the market show. It's May first. She goes, 1779 01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 1: She goes, what were we gonna do? I said, we're 1780 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 1: heading south. I don't know for this crap. And and 1781 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:29,519 Speaker 1: Lumberholder went to Hope the USC the next year. When 1782 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,519 Speaker 1: is snowing May first? Off? 1783 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,240 Speaker 2: Yea, hey, you're over that all right? 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Please subscribe. 1837 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,400 Speaker 2: Dude, what are some of your best recruiting stories? Like, 1838 01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 2: you're known as a recruiter. I know, I fucking know 1839 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 2: that you got some. 1840 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hear about like Jim Harball walking into people's houses, 1841 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,800 Speaker 4: sleeping over those that like doing crazy shit to land 1842 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 4: a recruit to show them, hey, I'm your guy. You 1843 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,560 Speaker 4: strike me as a dude that would definitely take a 1844 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:47,479 Speaker 4: caught in the living room. 1845 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Well, there's a bunch of them. Uh chase security, UH 1846 01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,080 Speaker 1: callabal Chassel is going to Florida, broke the security and 1847 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,120 Speaker 1: whatever you call that, you call it where you go, 1848 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: you know you put your stuff in all that through. Yep. 1849 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 1: I went right through that damn thing and chased him 1850 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,439 Speaker 1: all the way down. They came to get me and 1851 01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 1: they said, coach, what are you doing then? But I 1852 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,840 Speaker 1: told I want to tell him you do not go 1853 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,920 Speaker 1: to that school. I want you. He goes Coach, did 1854 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 1: you just break through the security? And said, hell yeah. 1855 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: But you know, one of the biggest recruiting stories is 1856 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. This is not crazy, but Reggie was leaning 1857 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame in Washington. Okay. I was not the 1858 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 1: running back coach. I was not the initial recruiter of 1859 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 1: that area, but I was the recruiting coordinator. And uh, 1860 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: I said, man, what's going on with Reggie Hes? Hevised, 1861 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,639 Speaker 1: so somebody doesn't do anything, And I asked him once 1862 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:47,880 Speaker 1: or twice, I guess who's gonna do it. I'm gonna 1863 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,639 Speaker 1: do it. So I called Reggi's daddy and uh I said, 1864 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: hey man, what y'all doing? Not coach, what's going on? 1865 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, we got well practicing football. He go, 1866 01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 1: I said, what you and your you and your my wife, 1867 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,680 Speaker 1: come on down, bring Reggie. I'm gonna feed you some 1868 01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 1: good food Los Angeles. What Big Eat can tell. And 1869 01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,599 Speaker 1: uh so him and Reggie and his mama came down 1870 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:14,559 Speaker 1: out the blue. Okay, wasn't gonna come visit. Came visit 1871 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: that weekend, had a blast. Then we go play in 1872 01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: the Orange bowt We beat Iowa that night. Right after 1873 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the game, overlooking the ocean, we'll stayed in Fort Lauderdale. Man, 1874 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,960 Speaker 1: we're having a blast. Calling on the cruise, A pessident 1875 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,400 Speaker 1: of the West Coast was three hours behind. And all 1876 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:37,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Pete goes Aednie Reggie Bush. He goes, Coach, 1877 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 1: I'll watch y'all play. I want to be a trojan 1878 01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,599 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush. Wow. So now that's the one I got. Okay, 1879 01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,000 Speaker 1: let me tell you the what I didn't get. Okay, 1880 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson right, Okay, So Adrian I went down there 1881 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,240 Speaker 1: in little East Texas place. His mama ran track. I 1882 01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,120 Speaker 1: remember his mama at Houston. I believe it was a 1883 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 1: great lady. Man call great family, and we're going there. 1884 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 1: I'll bring coach Carol and back then they had those 1885 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 1: old kerosene lamps. Okay, now, Coach Carrol, he ain't much 1886 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:16,200 Speaker 1: coultury in him now, right, and uh so you can 1887 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: smell the kerosene and she come to light it because Eddie, 1888 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna catch on fire, said Couch. We will get Okay, 1889 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,040 Speaker 1: just chill out, Coach, I got this baby. So Coach 1890 01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: is a little word about the kerosene. That night, it 1891 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: was kind of cool. But me and Asian were good man, 1892 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 1: and he, uh the coach follow me. So, okay, we 1893 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: drove thirty miles. We stop in a little country store. 1894 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,560 Speaker 1: You remember the gingerbread planks she got part of the 1895 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: remember you know, a little gingerbread plants some pink on it. 1896 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 1: But back then, you know, and I, oh, you can't 1897 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,360 Speaker 1: do anything right. There's Asian Peterson. I'm not about to 1898 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,640 Speaker 1: give him some cash at the store, right. So he 1899 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 1: buys this little gingerbread with a coke that was his supper. 1900 01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Like you shouldn't be man. So we go all the 1901 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:04,719 Speaker 1: way to this basketball school, no to school, they're playing 1902 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,000 Speaker 1: basketball and they walking. Everybody wanted the Asian to go 1903 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,400 Speaker 1: to Texas. So I walk in there with him at 1904 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 1: my us, he stuff, mood and all that. So we 1905 01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,080 Speaker 1: sat in the stadium. I said, hell, we door there. 1906 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 1: Man he goes. You see that little point guard. I 1907 01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 1: gotta play him next week I come to come to 1908 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 1: scout him. I want to see how I'll go to him. 1909 01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,880 Speaker 1: You know that told me about that young man. I said, what, 1910 01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 1: so he comes to he comes to USC, has a 1911 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 1: great visit. Lo was it? So I'm sitting there. Yeah, Look, 1912 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 1: we used to when I take him, I'd go pick 1913 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: him up the airport, right yeah, I used to bring 1914 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:48,080 Speaker 1: him down the PHU y'all been there right, Uh, to 1915 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,679 Speaker 1: Malibu and all that shit. Right then I go around, 1916 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,800 Speaker 1: I go around, and I go through Beverly Hill, all 1917 01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,600 Speaker 1: the big Course road road, Deale Drive. I pulled up 1918 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 1: the back way right back then of the USC right. Well, 1919 01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,720 Speaker 1: they would tell, they would tell the and I'd bring them, 1920 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,320 Speaker 1: make sure the parents were with me, and they tell 1921 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,360 Speaker 1: the recruits, say, listen, when he picks you up from 1922 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,600 Speaker 1: the airport, that high rise, Okay, that you're gonna go. 1923 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna see he's gonna show you about the big city. 1924 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna show you about that. But look to the side, 1925 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,719 Speaker 1: to the left, that's Compton. It's a very dangerous place. 1926 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: I knew that, right, So show them all the beautiful stuff, 1927 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:30,960 Speaker 1: right man, He said, Well, they go in the dorm rooms. 1928 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: You know, hey, look at the go to the dorm rooms. 1929 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: You know they got those bars on the window. You 1930 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,280 Speaker 1: know what, there's some bars on the weather right, people 1931 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,599 Speaker 1: trying to break in. I brought him to the best 1932 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 1: dorm on campus. Store them. That was out that without 1933 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:47,120 Speaker 1: dorm it was. That was all right. So on Sunday 1934 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 1: I'd go pick him up, right, and the mother had 1935 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,559 Speaker 1: to be there, had to be there. Now. Coach Carroll 1936 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: would go surfing in the morning on Sunday. But he said, edit, 1937 01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,679 Speaker 1: I don't want these recruits. Come watch me. I said, Coach, 1938 01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 1: you got and then y'all been to Manhattie. So you've 1939 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:05,600 Speaker 1: been to Manabie. They got the big pier right, and 1940 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,880 Speaker 1: they got all them homes right. So we live, we 1941 01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 1: used to live. We used to eat at the place 1942 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 1: the Ohio rises right there. I know you got. I 1943 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,240 Speaker 1: forgot the neighbor. So we'd bring him up to the top. 1944 01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,200 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I would take a walk 1945 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,559 Speaker 1: then enter the pier and I'd show him. I say, 1946 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,920 Speaker 1: there's j Lo's all the all the movie stars back there. 1947 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,559 Speaker 1: I didn't know if they lived there. You know, behind 1948 01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:34,000 Speaker 1: that jael O's house, there's Michael Jackson. I said, look, man, 1949 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,880 Speaker 1: you'd be first round draft stars, you believeing right there? Wow, man, 1950 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 1: that's cool. You know they'd be surfing in me December 1951 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 1: and January. And then we take them up to the house, 1952 01:29:42,439 --> 01:29:45,680 Speaker 1: to the top of the restaurant and here's what they say. 1953 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:49,280 Speaker 1: There you go right there, Santa Monica, you see abut right? Okay, 1954 01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 1: So now we said there and to a point, Miss 1955 01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 1: Mary would saying, Coach, I got something to tell you. 1956 01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: I said, yes, man, now you'll see, as y'all know, 1957 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:04,880 Speaker 1: a great school academic. So yeah, miss Mary, what is 1958 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean? Pete would be kicking me because he knew 1959 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:11,800 Speaker 1: exactly what they want to tell me. Coach. These recruiters 1960 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:16,400 Speaker 1: they told me, you know, this was a bad place. 1961 01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:19,519 Speaker 1: It was in the hood and all I see was 1962 01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: bad things and it was dass, said, Coach, all I 1963 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:27,639 Speaker 1: saw is the ocean Rose RoCE State dinners. Of course, 1964 01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 1: I said, it's Mary. The recruiters lied to you, I said, 1965 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,800 Speaker 1: of course they lied to me. I said, well, they're 1966 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:38,240 Speaker 1: lying to you. Now, think about what they're gonna they're 1967 01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna do when they get you, young man. They're really 1968 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna lie to coach you. Right, Coach, you're right, we're 1969 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:46,240 Speaker 1: coming to USC. Baby. That was not not Adrian, but 1970 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,560 Speaker 1: that would be like eighty percent of them. So we 1971 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:51,240 Speaker 1: just knew how to recruit Los Angeles. 1972 01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:56,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, you knew how to drive around around confident right. Yeah. 1973 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:02,360 Speaker 1: But Adrian, Okay, Coach, I got a problem. And I 1974 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,160 Speaker 1: know he don't mind me saying this, and I'll say 1975 01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,479 Speaker 1: it what utmost respect because I love him. Because my 1976 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:14,719 Speaker 1: dad is incarcerated in Texa Arcana. Bob Stoops has already 1977 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:18,439 Speaker 1: going in there to see him. And that was in 1978 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: the spring. Now, this was later on. He said, Coach, 1979 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,280 Speaker 1: you gotta go see my dad, man, and if you 1980 01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:25,400 Speaker 1: can convince my dad to come to USC, I want 1981 01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,559 Speaker 1: to come. But there's another thing I need to talk 1982 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:30,160 Speaker 1: to you about. So we tried to get into jail, 1983 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,439 Speaker 1: but everybody will tried, they wouldn't let let them do it. 1984 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,360 Speaker 1: So I said, Adrian, what is the other thing we 1985 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:41,720 Speaker 1: need to talk about? Migo's coach, my dad will get 1986 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 1: to watch me play in Texarcana. They play Oklahoma games 1987 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 1: because I'm not going to Texas. I'm going to Oklahoma. 1988 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,760 Speaker 1: I said, Adrian, if you're daddy, if they showed them 1989 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,720 Speaker 1: USC games over that, would you compensate? Coach? I come 1990 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,840 Speaker 1: tomorrow if you promise me, my dad, because see every 1991 01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 1: one of my games. I went back to Los Angeles. 1992 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 1: I want to speak to the Maya. I wants to 1993 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 1: speak every influential person that I could talk to, and 1994 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,479 Speaker 1: I tried to get Asian's daddy transferred from texall can 1995 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 1: at to Los Angeles. Jail man, man, I busted my button. 1996 01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:24,000 Speaker 1: I couldn't do it, man, just there's too many red things. 1997 01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:24,759 Speaker 4: Were you ever close? 1998 01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 1: No, No, you can't do that. 1999 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 2: Man. 2000 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 1: That is hilarious. Is that compete? 2001 01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 4: Is that the greatest distance you've ever gone to try 2002 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:34,679 Speaker 4: to get a player? 2003 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:38,640 Speaker 1: That's compete, that is one that is compete, That is that. 2004 01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,759 Speaker 2: Is competing, that's compete. Is there is there a recruit 2005 01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,400 Speaker 2: out there that you whiffed on, that you were just 2006 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 2: wrong about, that you didn't recruit, and that they've had 2007 01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:53,360 Speaker 2: all the success in the world, my god, and that 2008 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 2: you're like ship. I was the one that said, no, 2009 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:55,400 Speaker 2: we should. 2010 01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,760 Speaker 1: Every great recruiter is gonna have that one too. It 2011 01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 1: was like so many strikeouts, more than anybody else. If 2012 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,680 Speaker 1: you recruit long enough, you better tell the story. So 2013 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 1: when I was at Syracuse, what was the name of 2014 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,960 Speaker 1: the school man? It was in New Jersey, Okay, And 2015 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,280 Speaker 1: the coach was a good friend of mine, and he 2016 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: calls me, he said, Coach, I got this defensive lineman. Man. 2017 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:26,160 Speaker 1: His name is Tomba Holey's tea New Jersey Tack High School. Okay. 2018 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 1: So we go there and we bring him on a trip. Now, 2019 01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, at USC, you got to have a great 2020 01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 1: grape on average and a great test score to get 2021 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:42,439 Speaker 1: into school. But now there are some guys that could 2022 01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:48,599 Speaker 1: be like five special admits that you know, providing their decent, 2023 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 1: you can get them into the school. Okay. So he 2024 01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 1: gets that. We get there and Tomba Holey man, he 2025 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 1: was great, great young man, but he had he had 2026 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: a muscle short one okay. And I don't know for 2027 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 1: why Coach Carroll thought he didn't have big shoulders. He 2028 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,120 Speaker 1: was a defensive linement, right, and his shoulders were like that. No, 2029 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, Eddie, I don't. I don't know 2030 01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,720 Speaker 1: if we can need to go across the country to 2031 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,599 Speaker 1: get a guy like that. We got all these people 2032 01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and he doesn't have great grades. He does. 2033 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,920 Speaker 1: I said, coach, are you sure? Now I know the 2034 01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:27,439 Speaker 1: coach there. They say, this guy's a phenomenal player. He said, no, Eddie, 2035 01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:32,120 Speaker 1: I think we're going to pass on them. Tombley, he 2036 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:40,559 Speaker 1: was a dot. Yeah. Andre Johnson, how about that Miami 2037 01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,240 Speaker 1: Senior High School? Not a big concruit, not a big 2038 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,479 Speaker 1: time recruiter. I go down there, I bring him. We'll 2039 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 1: go to Beverly Hills, Adrey. I don't know if you 2040 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:53,560 Speaker 1: haven't bet Andre. He just a wonderful young man. And 2041 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,240 Speaker 1: uh So I go there and I'm having a home 2042 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 1: visit with him. And then outside the home visit, I 2043 01:34:59,400 --> 01:35:02,120 Speaker 1: can see hard Rock Stadium right there. I said, I 2044 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:07,679 Speaker 1: got my work cut off of him. So he comes, 2045 01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,160 Speaker 1: he has a great visit, and he's torn between Miami. 2046 01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 1: He's storm between Miami. So I get a call USC 2047 01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:19,000 Speaker 1: being academic coop. But so is Miami. And I get 2048 01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,719 Speaker 1: a call. Now I was down in Miami. That happened 2049 01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 1: to be the super Bowl right in Miami. So I 2050 01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:29,240 Speaker 1: ain't leaving right I'm there on Friday. The Friday Saturday 2051 01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 1: Sunday and the dead period before Sunday, I get a 2052 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,080 Speaker 1: call from an academic uh no, a recruiting coordinator with 2053 01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,640 Speaker 1: academic counselor. Hey, you know, we've been looking at the 2054 01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,040 Speaker 1: pecking order and uh, you know, we got a lot 2055 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: of receivers in Los Angeles. Coach, we we don't think 2056 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 1: we need Andre Johnson. You know, I told him two 2057 01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:54,280 Speaker 1: words and the first one starts with an F. Yeah, 2058 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,240 Speaker 1: I said, I tell him that, no way, man. I 2059 01:35:57,320 --> 01:35:59,840 Speaker 1: recruited them all weekend and then the Monday he told me, 2060 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 1: he says, coach, just too far for me to go. 2061 01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,400 Speaker 1: But I went about to tell Andre Johnson he didn't 2062 01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:06,639 Speaker 1: have a scholarship in the USC. 2063 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,040 Speaker 4: So what if he if he sat there and he's like, yeah, coach, 2064 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,040 Speaker 4: k I'm coming to USC. What's that next conversation look like? 2065 01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,439 Speaker 4: Are you paying for the tuition? 2066 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,040 Speaker 1: There'd have been a fight Monday morning in the office. Yeah, 2067 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,880 Speaker 1: and out of one I'll guarante him to you that 2068 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:20,200 Speaker 1: do you. 2069 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:21,880 Speaker 4: Remember the player on the roster you probably would have 2070 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,000 Speaker 4: fought to get off the scholarship. 2071 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:28,360 Speaker 1: No, I don't thought the recruiting coordinator. Do tell you. 2072 01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,479 Speaker 4: Sitting here listening to your stories like I could sit 2073 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:35,040 Speaker 4: back all day. 2074 01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: So all right, So the graduate assistance we lived in 2075 01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:43,560 Speaker 1: the dormitory at the University of Miami. Jimmy liked it 2076 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:45,800 Speaker 1: because we was in there and we made five hundred 2077 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:49,240 Speaker 1: dollars a month. We on the we ait on the 2078 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,280 Speaker 1: training table. And this is not the story, but I 2079 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,639 Speaker 1: just gotta tell you how how the University of Miami 2080 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,080 Speaker 1: was like a beach school back then, but just tough, 2081 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:01,160 Speaker 1: hard news and we go eat uh and Miss Sarah 2082 01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:04,519 Speaker 1: would feed all the players and all the players when 2083 01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 1: he was just like a big family. And man, if 2084 01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,439 Speaker 1: we didn't make the spread, I no, you ain't. You 2085 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,519 Speaker 1: ain't getting No, I ain't feeding your ass because she lose. 2086 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,519 Speaker 1: She better. She bettered the hurricane all the time. That's 2087 01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 1: how she made all the Hey man, y'all ain't making 2088 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:22,080 Speaker 1: that spread this week? You ain't. I see her with 2089 01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:24,360 Speaker 1: a plate of food. No, no, I ain't feeding your ass. 2090 01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 1: You better get going or height, missir please feed me. 2091 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna be with them. It was. It was just 2092 01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 1: that type of competitive baptister. Well, me and Tommy Tuckleville 2093 01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:36,120 Speaker 1: wore gradual sister together. Great guy got me down to 2094 01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 1: the Universal Movie. But we live in a dormitory. So 2095 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night we do not like travel money for 2096 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,760 Speaker 1: the gas, we get twenty bucks. Okay, Well Timmy for 2097 01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,960 Speaker 1: some reason, like a boltary, he wouldn't get the twenty bucks. 2098 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 1: So we go get some beer and at the end 2099 01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 1: we go to Kentucky Fried Chicken and we get a 2100 01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,400 Speaker 1: four piece. Four piece. Now that's the way I left. 2101 01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,519 Speaker 1: Right now, we're feeling pretty good. Obviously we had a 2102 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:04,000 Speaker 1: lot of two dollars for chicken and eighteen dollars for beer. 2103 01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:05,840 Speaker 2: Right, that's a great ratio. 2104 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,120 Speaker 1: But we go back to we go back to the 2105 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,600 Speaker 1: uh My gallery. It's going to be the governor of Alabama, 2106 01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 1: right and great gun and we always do he's gonna 2107 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,560 Speaker 1: be a politician, really help great coat. But we go 2108 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,840 Speaker 1: back there. We go back to the dorm and you know, Tommy, 2109 01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,360 Speaker 1: if we got a case of beer, I would drink 2110 01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,080 Speaker 1: twenty two and Tommy would drink two. Okay, and then 2111 01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:30,600 Speaker 1: does this is the way we were personality ready? So 2112 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,760 Speaker 1: we go there and there was the four pieces of chicken. Well, 2113 01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 1: we both like the white meat, right, and we mostly 2114 01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:45,360 Speaker 1: did that the whole season, twelve games, and I guarant 2115 01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,559 Speaker 1: them to you. I ate the white meat twelve times. 2116 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:53,479 Speaker 1: That was a battle for the white meat. Think about that, man, 2117 01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,160 Speaker 1: I know I can start laughing. And he ended up 2118 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,920 Speaker 1: being the head coach at Albans National Championship coach L 2119 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:05,400 Speaker 1: s U. He's a United States Center and probably gonna 2120 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:06,840 Speaker 1: be the governor Alabama. 2121 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,599 Speaker 4: And you'll fight white fight, well fight to this day, 2122 01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,960 Speaker 4: still fight over the white chicken. That is hilarious, man. 2123 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what uh? 2124 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,800 Speaker 4: What what year were you did you first at the 2125 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:19,160 Speaker 4: L s U? 2126 01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:20,280 Speaker 1: Wasn't hitting him? 2127 01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:21,760 Speaker 4: What year was the first year became the head coach 2128 01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:22,160 Speaker 4: L s c u? 2129 01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 3: Uh? 2130 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,799 Speaker 1: The first year I became interim head coach at twenty sixteen. 2131 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 1: That's another story. 2132 01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 4: Less it was it less miles story tell me I 2133 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,160 Speaker 4: would love well. 2134 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:37,160 Speaker 1: First of all, let's let's backtrack the USC. Okay, we 2135 01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:40,200 Speaker 1: beat I think Arizona, we go to Notre Dame and 2136 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,760 Speaker 1: we lose the note Dame. Well, Pat Hayden was a 2137 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, a Notre Dame fanatic. You know he uh 2138 01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:51,040 Speaker 1: uh cold games for norda Dame. You know he wanted 2139 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,640 Speaker 1: to beat him and he was right. The offense was 2140 01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,000 Speaker 1: Brian Keller was the office ward with the Hill of Beas, 2141 01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,400 Speaker 1: but we lost. He was pissed. I don't remember, but 2142 01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,840 Speaker 1: when I ran off that field, I took that job 2143 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,160 Speaker 1: at USC like I was gonna be the interim coach 2144 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,599 Speaker 1: for a little bit. Okay, when I left that field, 2145 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,160 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, f that, I'm gonna be 2146 01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 1: the head coach from now on. And we went on 2147 01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,240 Speaker 1: a tear man. We won like five games in a row, 2148 01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 1: and the Friday before the UCLA game, he brings me 2149 01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 1: my wife in, shows me the contract because a twelve 2150 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,120 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. But then for four years, he tells 2151 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:30,840 Speaker 1: my wife to stay. We have a press conference on Tuesday. 2152 01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna hire me. Okay, my kids come, man, but 2153 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,200 Speaker 1: we lose the u c l A. Which is understand. 2154 01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,720 Speaker 1: We didn't play with my kids. Get on on on 2155 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,960 Speaker 1: the plane crime. My wife stays with me. He never 2156 01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:48,280 Speaker 1: calls me on Sunday. 2157 01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:51,639 Speaker 2: About this next deal you're about to sign. 2158 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,120 Speaker 1: He told me he's gonna call me something night. Off 2159 01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,679 Speaker 1: me the job, full full, full, full. 2160 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,439 Speaker 4: Time, twelve million dollars. 2161 01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,599 Speaker 1: He said, I'm I'm ninety nine percent sure I'm gonna 2162 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 1: hire you. I'm gonna call you tonight. The cole never 2163 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 1: came m I stayed up all night, went on a call. 2164 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,360 Speaker 1: Next morning, I told my wife, I said, it's a 2165 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,479 Speaker 1: plane we're going on. I gotta go take care of 2166 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:23,400 Speaker 1: some business. Me and him had a meet with had 2167 01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:30,400 Speaker 1: to meet. I slammed that door and I told him, 2168 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 1: I said, beside the day my father died, this is 2169 01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:38,559 Speaker 1: the worst day in my life. Just drumbling. I told him, 2170 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm better than the man that you hire. 2171 01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,760 Speaker 1: Do a great job. I love USC and UF me 2172 01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,800 Speaker 1: and probably not as nice as I'm saying that right now. 2173 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough. 2174 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 2: And how long were you at USC at this point? 2175 01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,639 Speaker 1: I had been to the USC from nineteen ninety eight 2176 01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: through two thousand and four, and then we went by 2177 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:05,759 Speaker 1: with Lane. I think it was twenty eleven, twelve thirteen. 2178 01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:11,679 Speaker 1: This was, uh, this is yeah, this is thirteen or thirteen, Okay. 2179 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 1: I took fourteen off of fifteen somewhere around. So I've 2180 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:18,080 Speaker 1: been in the USC but almost eleven years. Coach. So 2181 01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,800 Speaker 1: when we have a team meeting, I said, I want 2182 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,920 Speaker 1: to tell my team by, and he said no, I said, yes, 2183 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:28,799 Speaker 1: I'll tellble team by. It was like a funeral because 2184 01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,719 Speaker 1: all the things I said I do become like their father. 2185 01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:35,559 Speaker 1: They loved me. It was my team. And I said, guy, 2186 01:42:35,680 --> 01:42:37,920 Speaker 1: you know this USC is the best place for you. 2187 01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,320 Speaker 1: I was still gonna pull for you, your great place. 2188 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,920 Speaker 1: They gotta they got, they got a coach coming in. 2189 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,360 Speaker 1: You'll respect them. Hey, we had a good drum. Noah, Noah, coach. 2190 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,000 Speaker 1: We don't want to hear that. They jumped the tables 2191 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:53,839 Speaker 1: and they were crying. They were hugging me and shaking 2192 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,640 Speaker 1: me and why and they were looking at why just 2193 01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:59,439 Speaker 1: like the dad would never have Man, this is our coach. 2194 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 1: What do you doing? And it was so I I 2195 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,639 Speaker 1: guys picking me up at the bring us to the airport, 2196 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:11,200 Speaker 1: and I'm crying. That was my that was my family. 2197 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:14,360 Speaker 1: I've been there. I lived in the Radison. I lived 2198 01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,640 Speaker 1: in the Radison for four years. Across the street my 2199 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:22,160 Speaker 1: my family stayed in UH in Mandeville, Louisiana. That was 2200 01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:25,360 Speaker 1: by myself. I'd go from the Radison to U S C. 2201 01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:27,640 Speaker 1: I love Carls Jr. Man I got I give you 2202 01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:35,799 Speaker 1: a double meat, uh double Western. That was my favorite. 2203 01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 1: Let's go now try to get letters rap, but. 2204 01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:42,280 Speaker 2: Trying to hear that. 2205 01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:47,680 Speaker 1: That was my circle for four years. Oh my God 2206 01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:57,479 Speaker 1: here it is right there stuffing it down. So anyway, 2207 01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 1: so we get her a plane and this is my 2208 01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:06,640 Speaker 1: ex wife I'm talking about now many and so, uh, 2209 01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:12,559 Speaker 1: she goes, why why are you so sad? I said, 2210 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:17,200 Speaker 1: we got the USC job pulled us. God has a 2211 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 1: better plan, you know, it better be good. We just 2212 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:24,439 Speaker 1: lost the USC job. Baby, It's gonna be good anyway. 2213 01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:27,640 Speaker 1: So I spent a year out of coaching. But that 2214 01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:29,599 Speaker 1: was that was a great time in my life. Man. 2215 01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,479 Speaker 1: I always want to be the head coach at l 2216 01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 1: s U or USC, and that was a hard deal 2217 01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,600 Speaker 1: for me to lead that place. So I took a 2218 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,200 Speaker 1: year for coaching. But that year for coaching, I got 2219 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,400 Speaker 1: to see my son's play football and I never watched 2220 01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:46,840 Speaker 1: to play football. Courts a quarterback, parker receiver. We went 2221 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,920 Speaker 1: to the quarter the semi finals. It was just a 2222 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:53,040 Speaker 1: wonderful year. I cook for my kids. Man, it was good. 2223 01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 1: It was really a year that I needed. And then 2224 01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,519 Speaker 1: I went to LLUSU was less my house. So the 2225 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,040 Speaker 1: first year went to coach my house. The second year 2226 01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: we lose to Wisconsin and Dream based field up there 2227 01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,400 Speaker 1: and and we played uh it was like someone the 2228 01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:14,479 Speaker 1: kickoff classes so I get a call says, coach, you'll 2229 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,360 Speaker 1: lose another game. You're going to be the interim hit 2230 01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 1: coach at the LSU. 2231 01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,680 Speaker 4: They're telling you this. There's lesson of this. No, that 2232 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:22,639 Speaker 4: is crazy. 2233 01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,880 Speaker 1: This is a back where worlds cultry ship. Right, yeah, 2234 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,400 Speaker 1: I'll figure that called you. 2235 01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:32,439 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, this is a this is an 2236 01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:34,759 Speaker 4: Illuminati of third. 2237 01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,679 Speaker 1: Party third party yeah yeah, yeah, but it's legit. Okay. 2238 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,640 Speaker 1: So so we go play Auburn. Now I'm knowing this 2239 01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,439 Speaker 1: the whole time. So we play Auburn and on the 2240 01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,519 Speaker 1: last play of the game, we score a touchdown, but 2241 01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,040 Speaker 1: we get a penalty or the clock ran out or 2242 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:55,000 Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know what to yell, scream, cheer. 2243 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, what's going on? So we lost the game. 2244 01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:03,240 Speaker 1: Everybody's said right now, you well I have. We lost 2245 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,040 Speaker 1: the game, and I like, Coach mil was great to me, 2246 01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:08,560 Speaker 1: but I'm like, this is weird. Okay, So I'll go 2247 01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 1: on the bus. Meet me at the such and such 2248 01:46:14,120 --> 01:46:20,880 Speaker 1: station when you'll get off the plane. Okay, go to place. 2249 01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,800 Speaker 1: We stayed there atill six o'clock in the morning. They 2250 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:27,200 Speaker 1: gave me the blue bread. Here's what needs to be done. 2251 01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,080 Speaker 1: Here's how it has to be done, here's what we expect. 2252 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,439 Speaker 1: And there was nothing about anybody officially from LSU there, right. 2253 01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was just like T boy and his cousin, 2254 01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:40,800 Speaker 1: you know. So do I go to work the next day. 2255 01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,559 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there and it says, happen to more be ready? 2256 01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,400 Speaker 1: So we get a staff meeting, We sit down there. 2257 01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,320 Speaker 1: Nobody knows anything me. It was weird as hell. 2258 01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:53,880 Speaker 2: It was like yeah, and because you said it was 2259 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,800 Speaker 2: nobody officially from LSU, I mean, was that real? What 2260 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:57,360 Speaker 2: just happened? 2261 01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,840 Speaker 4: Was there a piece of you that's like this is 2262 01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:02,760 Speaker 4: this can't be real? Or were you like, hey, I 2263 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:05,240 Speaker 4: know for surely? Was there ever doubt? You're sitting at 2264 01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:06,240 Speaker 4: a gas station until. 2265 01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:09,880 Speaker 2: Coach Joe's by sitting there like they have no fucking clue, A. 2266 01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:13,559 Speaker 1: Kind of you and my heart it was real, huh. 2267 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,519 Speaker 1: I kind of fell back like love coach, and there's 2268 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:20,519 Speaker 1: all my teammate, I my coaches. I'm like, fuck, what's 2269 01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:20,840 Speaker 1: going on? 2270 01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:21,240 Speaker 3: Man? 2271 01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:26,439 Speaker 1: Anyway? So I go to my desk. Yeah, the guy 2272 01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:30,360 Speaker 1: texted me, is gonna happen? Relax? I said, amen, is 2273 01:47:30,439 --> 01:47:33,360 Speaker 1: this real? Go to have all of a sudden three 2274 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,760 Speaker 1: o'clock in the afternoon. I'm walking down. I'm walking the guy, 2275 01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:39,720 Speaker 1: the guy who's the athletic director now grabbing me by 2276 01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,600 Speaker 1: the arm. Hey, you are now the head coach the 2277 01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:46,600 Speaker 1: LSU Tigers. What let's go. I met with a D 2278 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:51,760 Speaker 1: and they got rid of the things I needed to 2279 01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,960 Speaker 1: do on the staff and the way we went. 2280 01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:55,280 Speaker 4: A couple of things a D. 2281 01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:55,800 Speaker 2: That's there. 2282 01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,720 Speaker 4: Now he grabs you, says you're now the head coach 2283 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,240 Speaker 4: of the LSU Tigers. Right, you better hurry up, less Miles. 2284 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,920 Speaker 4: What's your text to him? What's your call to him? 2285 01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 4: Do you say any nothing? 2286 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:06,439 Speaker 1: Nothing? 2287 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,519 Speaker 4: So you have you had communication with Less Miles since 2288 01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:08,920 Speaker 4: this day? 2289 01:48:09,439 --> 01:48:11,439 Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah I have. Oh yeah, okay, I talk 2290 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,439 Speaker 1: call him, Thank you, Tell him I loved them and 2291 01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:16,400 Speaker 1: orders Yeah, we had a good relationship. He had nothing 2292 01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:19,599 Speaker 1: to do with me. But you want to be the head. 2293 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:21,120 Speaker 4: Coach of the USC or l s U. It's been 2294 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:23,120 Speaker 4: the same thing. Hold this whole entire podcast, right, So 2295 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:24,840 Speaker 4: now have somebody walking up to you being like you're 2296 01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:25,880 Speaker 4: about to be the head coach. 2297 01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:31,640 Speaker 1: Balance when I took the head job at USC, I 2298 01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of it's not like me a soft pedal. Yeah, 2299 01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,320 Speaker 1: then I knew pat end up, but I said, you know, what, 2300 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,120 Speaker 1: the hell with it, I'm going for it. When they 2301 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:42,880 Speaker 1: told me I'm the interim head coach, you know what 2302 01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, what I'm not letting go the rope. I'm 2303 01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,680 Speaker 1: gonna get this damn job. I moved in the head 2304 01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,640 Speaker 1: coach's office my first team meeting, Duke Roddy says that 2305 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 1: I acted like the head coach, fired guys, changed the practice, 2306 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:57,599 Speaker 1: slipped flipped the script when we went and they were 2307 01:48:57,640 --> 01:49:00,360 Speaker 1: like wow, and we took a whole fire man shit. 2308 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,759 Speaker 4: How many games in was it when when Less got fired? 2309 01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 4: I think it was four four games, And so you 2310 01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:07,800 Speaker 4: have four games in the season, and what was in 2311 01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:09,639 Speaker 4: What was your end record as interim head coach? 2312 01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,280 Speaker 1: I think we lost Alabama ten Dutton and I'll tell 2313 01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:15,639 Speaker 1: you the least one ten nutt. We lost Alaba. Everybody 2314 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:18,840 Speaker 1: else will kick your ass. And it was zero zero 2315 01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,840 Speaker 1: in the third quarter going out Alabama. So we were 2316 01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 1: played really good. We opened up the offense, We're scoring points. 2317 01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:30,479 Speaker 1: So in l. S U's mind, I was just the 2318 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,800 Speaker 1: interim but they were gonna give me a chance, legit chance, 2319 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:33,880 Speaker 1: because the AD loved me. 2320 01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,639 Speaker 4: And they told you, yeah, because you said, they walked 2321 01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 4: you into a room, gave you the blueprint, give you 2322 01:49:38,360 --> 01:49:40,639 Speaker 4: the expectation. So when you only have an eight game 2323 01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,920 Speaker 4: sample size, you have no training camp. These are not 2324 01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 4: your recruits. No letting tell me what was their expectation 2325 01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,880 Speaker 4: of you for those eight games? 2326 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 1: Win when yeah, let's shoot, tigers, take get over, open 2327 01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:57,200 Speaker 1: up the offense, score points, let's go play with some energy. 2328 01:49:57,800 --> 01:49:59,960 Speaker 1: You're just the person to do it. I did it. 2329 01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 1: But he and Steve Ensminger, my buddy, was quarterback coach, 2330 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,920 Speaker 1: and made him office of coordinator and he did a 2331 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,479 Speaker 1: tremendous job. Dave Randa was there, did a tremendous job. 2332 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:12,519 Speaker 1: So anyway, so we're going in. We're doing good. Man. 2333 01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:14,559 Speaker 1: We rolling, we got we got a little we got 2334 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,200 Speaker 1: little something and we had he was kind of funny guy, Well, 2335 01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 1: you know this plane tracker, you know, to get the 2336 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:23,680 Speaker 1: plane tracker. Yeah, yeah, inside my director of operations, he was, uh, 2337 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,599 Speaker 1: he was checking the plane tracker right and uh. At 2338 01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,519 Speaker 1: first the plane was going all over the place and 2339 01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:32,240 Speaker 1: we start winning, start winning, and hey, plane tracker ain't 2340 01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:36,160 Speaker 1: going nowhere to sweep, bro, keep the plane at home. Man. 2341 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:39,360 Speaker 1: So were playing Florida. 2342 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:40,040 Speaker 2: That's funny. 2343 01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:41,640 Speaker 4: We're playing. 2344 01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:49,080 Speaker 1: Florida gated. And look, although being for Louisiana, I knew 2345 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:53,040 Speaker 1: Alabama was a arrival, but I didn't know how bad 2346 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,800 Speaker 1: the Florida Gators and the Elisis divate each other. So 2347 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 1: and just like Nord of the Name and and Miami 2348 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,600 Speaker 1: in the tunnel, and we fought against Notre Dame, we 2349 01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:06,640 Speaker 1: were out of our minds. We didn't play well. We 2350 01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,800 Speaker 1: lost the game. Not of excuse, but we just it 2351 01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,639 Speaker 1: just when you fight before the game, you know, it's 2352 01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,960 Speaker 1: just not in the right mindset. So Tommy Manful was 2353 01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 1: the SONT coach at the text and I'm doing a 2354 01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:18,960 Speaker 1: great job. Comes to me, said, coach, you gotta get 2355 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:19,240 Speaker 1: out of here. 2356 01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:19,400 Speaker 2: Man. 2357 01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:23,120 Speaker 1: Your whole teams fighting. I said, what, So get out there, man, 2358 01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,519 Speaker 1: every I mean they're fighting with Florida. I mean it's 2359 01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,880 Speaker 1: at home and and those guys, you know how, they're 2360 01:51:27,880 --> 01:51:30,000 Speaker 1: all getting vice. Man, you're just not in your right mind. 2361 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 1: So we go out there. We play our worst game. 2362 01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,600 Speaker 1: We should have beat the dog out of Flora. Bumble's 2363 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:41,439 Speaker 1: mistake was get down the fourth and one. Okay, we 2364 01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:44,960 Speaker 1: win this game. They're gonna hire me in the dressing room. 2365 01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,479 Speaker 4: You know this, or you're a sing the third party, 2366 01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:50,160 Speaker 4: third party. 2367 01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:50,599 Speaker 1: The third party. 2368 01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:56,519 Speaker 4: Yboy had now become important, right yeah, So and it 2369 01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:57,920 Speaker 4: wasn't about beating Florida. 2370 01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:00,360 Speaker 1: So we ca all the time out and run this 2371 01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:04,720 Speaker 1: play called Pilot. And I have this wonderful player named Darius. 2372 01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 2: Guys a man, yeah, went to Washington, right, A man 2373 01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:10,759 Speaker 2: now tough. 2374 01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,680 Speaker 1: And so we pilon is. We're gonna we're gonna go 2375 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:18,599 Speaker 1: to the left. We're gonna suck everybody in and then 2376 01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna hook the outside guy and Darius is going 2377 01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:27,800 Speaker 1: to the pilot. We'll be a touchdown walk in fourth 2378 01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:32,400 Speaker 1: and less than one. Right, but we're on the sideline. 2379 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:37,680 Speaker 1: And I learned as a head coach after this, make 2380 01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:42,560 Speaker 1: your assistance, tell everybody to play and which what to do. 2381 01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:48,360 Speaker 1: That didn't get done? Okay, I think responsible Darius went 2382 01:52:48,439 --> 01:52:55,720 Speaker 1: the wrong way. Florida stops us. Oh my god, I've 2383 01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,800 Speaker 1: been living in a in a hotel on campus. I 2384 01:52:58,920 --> 01:53:01,360 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna let go to Rope. I woke up the 2385 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:06,840 Speaker 1: next morning. My stomach was killing me. Man, God, I 2386 01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:12,680 Speaker 1: was in a ball screaming yelling God, rot yo, piss man. Yo. 2387 01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:16,400 Speaker 1: My director of operations called me, said, hey, I just 2388 01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 1: talked to Joe athletic director. We still got a chance. 2389 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:22,439 Speaker 1: Well he was smart. He's keep me going. So we're 2390 01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:26,280 Speaker 1: playing things. We're playing Texas A and M for Thanksgiving Day, right, 2391 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,400 Speaker 1: So we meeting on Sunday. So we got a team meeting. 2392 01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:33,479 Speaker 1: Everybody's down, you know, and here comes Darius. He got 2393 01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,920 Speaker 1: a hoodie over his head. He was the last one 2394 01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,960 Speaker 1: to get in. I took that freaking hoodie off. I 2395 01:53:39,080 --> 01:53:41,599 Speaker 1: grabbed him and I said, I love you. It's my fault. 2396 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,599 Speaker 1: I didn't teach you good enough. Really, coach, He said, yeah, 2397 01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:47,880 Speaker 1: I should have coached you. Bet a son. I said, 2398 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what i'mnna do. I'm gonna give 2399 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:51,160 Speaker 1: you the ball against Texas and him and you go 2400 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:55,639 Speaker 1: run all over the ass. There's a pepping stuff, right yeah, 2401 01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,720 Speaker 1: I said, Okay, I went in there. You guys play, 2402 01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 1: y'all get this, Hey, guys, just Thanksgiving week we fixed 2403 01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:05,479 Speaker 1: the whip and M's ass no paths. The whole week 2404 01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,960 Speaker 1: they forgot we lost the game. It went crazy. Man, 2405 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:14,360 Speaker 1: he forgot we played the day before. Man walked through. 2406 01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,920 Speaker 1: No paths kept him fresh man. So we get on 2407 01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,479 Speaker 1: the plane. You guys know how this. You get on 2408 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,000 Speaker 1: the plane, right, you're gonna play it in him feeling Man, 2409 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:24,880 Speaker 1: I feel like I wanted to fight with my buddies. Man, 2410 01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:29,519 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I know it's gonna be good. So there's 2411 01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:33,000 Speaker 1: all kind of rumors going on. Right, So you know, 2412 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,720 Speaker 1: you guys have what's called a sixth sense, right, you 2413 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:38,040 Speaker 1: can feel stuff right now. Look, I made a tanel 2414 01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:43,080 Speaker 1: a C T right, Okay, I don't want none of 2415 01:54:43,120 --> 01:54:47,120 Speaker 1: you boys be too impressed back there. That's after my 2416 01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,200 Speaker 1: third time taking you know, I mean, but God has 2417 01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 1: given me. God has given me a situational awareness factor 2418 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:57,240 Speaker 1: in my life that I can figure shit out, you 2419 01:54:57,280 --> 01:55:01,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we're feeling good man, We're 2420 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna go kick their ass. Right, get off the bus. 2421 01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 1: We had an hour drive and all of a sudden, 2422 01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:08,640 Speaker 1: when we get off the bus, we had this place 2423 01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,120 Speaker 1: as big resort, and I see little factions of people. 2424 01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:15,080 Speaker 2: What's going on? 2425 01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:15,680 Speaker 4: Man? 2426 01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,120 Speaker 1: Then my ex wife said, and I promised myself that 2427 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:24,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna focus on getting this head job till 2428 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:28,400 Speaker 1: the last fricking, fucking I wasn't gonna let go and 2429 01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,360 Speaker 1: get this job. Now. We won't go let nothing get 2430 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,880 Speaker 1: me back. So we'll go to meetings. He's still the 2431 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:40,400 Speaker 1: same thing. Little factions of people just you can tell 2432 01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:44,520 Speaker 1: something going on. So I go home. My ex wife, 2433 01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, she goes out to dinner. She goes, well, 2434 01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:52,080 Speaker 1: I guess it's all over. Uh what you mean? They 2435 01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,000 Speaker 1: offered the job the Jimbo Fisher to night. I said, no, 2436 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:59,640 Speaker 1: Joe wouldn't do that. He wouldn't do it without telling me. Well, 2437 01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:02,320 Speaker 1: I a guy on my staff that had worked with 2438 01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher. He was hiring and firing people or my 2439 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,960 Speaker 1: staff behind my back. Oh yeah, hey, you're gonna stay now. 2440 01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:12,640 Speaker 1: You ain'tna standing, I mean, and everybody was trying to 2441 01:56:12,680 --> 01:56:14,520 Speaker 1: get a job of him. This is the day before 2442 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,360 Speaker 1: the game, and I'm like, okay, but you know what 2443 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:21,800 Speaker 1: Coach Carroll taught me, Eddie, never letting them know they 2444 01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:25,760 Speaker 1: got you. Don't tell them, give them follow it. So 2445 01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:27,720 Speaker 1: the next day, remember I said, I'm gonna go for him. 2446 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:32,080 Speaker 1: The next day when the hotel, same stuffs going. Don't 2447 01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:34,680 Speaker 1: pet this stuff. So we go to the game. Now 2448 01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:39,160 Speaker 1: I want you boss, remember us some coach. Okay, we 2449 01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:41,560 Speaker 1: go to the game, we're going to and m now 2450 01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,440 Speaker 1: his rocket and all that. Right we picked. I know 2451 01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:46,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna kick the dog out of him. All right now, 2452 01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 1: your boss, okay, your boss, we'll bet the hide ship 2453 01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:56,000 Speaker 1: from you. Okay, he'll bet to give you the smile, 2454 01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:58,760 Speaker 1: and he won't bet to tell you what's really going 2455 01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:05,280 Speaker 1: on through his face. But the wife can never lie. Okay. 2456 01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,400 Speaker 1: So Joe's wife and I anty a little Italian lady. 2457 01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:12,960 Speaker 1: We go to SCC deal. She loved me. I'd have 2458 01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:15,480 Speaker 1: a laugh and we'd joke, and she wanted me to 2459 01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,120 Speaker 1: be the head go and so the joke. So I 2460 01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:20,600 Speaker 1: go on right right before the game. You know, everybody's 2461 01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 1: fire up, joke and shake my hand. Nothing here we go, man, 2462 01:57:24,440 --> 01:57:28,480 Speaker 1: and I look at any his wife and here's the look. 2463 01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:36,840 Speaker 1: Look I what, oh shit, I'm a trouble man. I 2464 01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:40,840 Speaker 1: mean you tell that's over. You don't mean something going on. 2465 01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,800 Speaker 1: So we win the tass, and we usually win the tass. 2466 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:48,560 Speaker 1: We played defense, right uh huh, I said, as Mega, 2467 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:51,920 Speaker 1: take the ball and give it the geist. But I 2468 01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:52,720 Speaker 1: told him wasnly. 2469 01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:53,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you didn't give the ball. 2470 01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the ball, boar. We had six 2471 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five yards of total offense on those guys. 2472 01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:03,240 Speaker 1: We put an ass flipping on them. A guys suppost 2473 01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:04,080 Speaker 1: to have so many yorks. 2474 01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:08,040 Speaker 4: So anyway, Darius guys had two hundred and eighty five 2475 01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:11,400 Speaker 4: yards of rushing in four touchdowns, a seal game rushing 2476 01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:12,360 Speaker 4: record at lsu O. 2477 01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,240 Speaker 2: Filling in for an injured Leonard Fournette. 2478 01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:23,400 Speaker 4: Hey, no paths baby, right exactly. So boys are bouncing around. 2479 01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:27,880 Speaker 1: And look I gave him the ball and look fifty nine. Anyway, 2480 01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:30,520 Speaker 1: So in the locker room, man, everybody's happening all right. 2481 01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:35,360 Speaker 1: So we'll get on the plane and you know when 2482 01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:39,040 Speaker 1: the alumni, you guys are doing the alumni hit in 2483 01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:41,640 Speaker 1: the back like that, you gotta be covering with they're 2484 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:46,720 Speaker 1: coming right down to you. I mean that's when he 2485 01:58:46,840 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 1: coming that right. So look, Derek, my director of operations, 2486 01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,880 Speaker 1: right is sitting in front of me, and this guy 2487 01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:58,320 Speaker 1: goes up behind it going, hey, man, too bad, you 2488 01:58:58,440 --> 01:58:59,400 Speaker 1: made a good run at it. 2489 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:01,880 Speaker 8: No. 2490 01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:06,600 Speaker 1: So I look in the front and everybody's happy. And 2491 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:10,880 Speaker 1: this guy that had a lot of information from me 2492 01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:17,080 Speaker 1: through the back door was like the uh, what's wrong? 2493 01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:22,320 Speaker 1: Something wrong? Anyway, next day we meet, we got guys, 2494 01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,680 Speaker 1: we got we've been working on this ship binders. I mean, 2495 01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:28,400 Speaker 1: we got our whole program ready to go. And we 2496 01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:30,400 Speaker 1: get a call. We meet with Joe leaving. This is 2497 01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:33,600 Speaker 1: my interview, right, So Derek and Austin's coming with me, 2498 01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,840 Speaker 1: and we got on walking. We walked right, Derek Tiger's stand. 2499 01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:41,200 Speaker 1: We gotta call. Hey, Joe's about the offer? 2500 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 2: Yaller job man? 2501 01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:47,320 Speaker 1: What we're walking there with the peposte. I'm sitting here, 2502 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,720 Speaker 1: Derek sitting here, Uh, Austin sitting there. Joe's gonna sit there. 2503 01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:55,080 Speaker 1: We have a binders man. We all said. Joe comes 2504 01:59:55,120 --> 02:00:00,400 Speaker 1: in and he's looking like what is going on? He says, there, Joe, 2505 02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:04,320 Speaker 1: here's He pushes the minders aside. Now this is this 2506 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:07,840 Speaker 1: is like eight three months of work, you know, by 2507 02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:11,800 Speaker 1: everybody in the office. Push them aside. Guys, look, gotta 2508 02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:15,080 Speaker 1: be honest with yo. I'm talking to Tom Herbert Knight. 2509 02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:23,600 Speaker 1: I said, well, last night two nights ago is Jimbo 2510 02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Fisher Tom Herbert's night to night. I'll need them more, baby, 2511 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,240 Speaker 1: And I wasn't gonna let go of the rope, right, 2512 02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,560 Speaker 1: So I kicked Derek, and also I said, you gotta 2513 02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:40,440 Speaker 1: leave now. I pulled my chair and Joe, who I 2514 02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:44,120 Speaker 1: love to this day, I love Yeah, I said, Jordan, Look, 2515 02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm hitting him right here, right Joe. You know damn well, 2516 02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,280 Speaker 1: in your heart, your belly. I'm the best man for 2517 02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:55,880 Speaker 1: the Lshie Tigers. I look forward to being the next 2518 02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:59,080 Speaker 1: head coach at l s U. And I walked out 2519 02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,480 Speaker 1: the way. Fuck what did I just do? I hit 2520 02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:04,760 Speaker 1: him too hard? You know what I mean? I got 2521 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,760 Speaker 1: I blew it, I said. I told him, I said, coach, 2522 02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm getting lin Kiffin to come with me. Joe, I'm 2523 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:13,360 Speaker 1: getting liank Iiffin. He's gonna leave Alabama, He's gonna come here. 2524 02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:17,960 Speaker 1: And so I started calling. I wasn't gonna let go. 2525 02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I was going back to my home. I moved out 2526 02:01:19,800 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 1: of the hotel. He was over right. So I'm going home, 2527 02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:27,440 Speaker 1: my home, a mandebilt. We having Thanksgiving dinner because you 2528 02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 1: know we played them on Thanksgiving. Dare Now how fired 2529 02:01:30,520 --> 02:01:33,480 Speaker 1: up you think I have to have fucking Thanksgiving dinner? 2530 02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean I got the red ass man. I'm like 2531 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:40,840 Speaker 1: god oh man ship. So after dinner, gets who certain 2532 02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:45,720 Speaker 1: that wants the dishes me? So I went, I went't 2533 02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,840 Speaker 1: gonna be in the headcoffy down, shiels, I got a 2534 02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:51,320 Speaker 1: file of dishes for me, going what just happened? I 2535 02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,520 Speaker 1: just lost the USC job. Now I lost this job? 2536 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,480 Speaker 1: Are you shitting me? Man? 2537 02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:07,120 Speaker 4: Discovering this ship? This not one person that that things 2538 02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:08,720 Speaker 4: giving dinner had any white turkey. 2539 02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:14,960 Speaker 1: No, no, no. Side note. You know, I just don't 2540 02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,480 Speaker 1: get this stuff. I'm not a you know, I'm not 2541 02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:21,600 Speaker 1: into the house putting stuff in the dishwasher. Okay, Now, 2542 02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to make a bad statement here, but 2543 02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:27,960 Speaker 1: most people I've been around push the stuff in the dishwasher. 2544 02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,840 Speaker 1: They don't realize there's two steps you gotta take it out. 2545 02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Where where's our dishes washer? Two steps right farths out 2546 02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,960 Speaker 1: of the dishwasher for a week anyway. 2547 02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:50,200 Speaker 4: So so you're mad as fucker. You're there scrubbing this 2548 02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:54,080 Speaker 4: out of these dishes, washing the freaking cranberry sauce. Everyone 2549 02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:55,240 Speaker 4: being kind of nice to you. 2550 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So so I go to bed that night 2551 02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:05,400 Speaker 1: and the ticker Tom Herban will be the next head 2552 02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:08,880 Speaker 1: coach of the La Shoot Tigers. So my ex wife 2553 02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,440 Speaker 1: comes to beat and she goes, sure, now she had premonition, 2554 02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:15,000 Speaker 1: to remember, she told me, God, I had a better 2555 02:03:15,040 --> 02:03:19,360 Speaker 1: plan on the plane. And now she says, why are 2556 02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:24,680 Speaker 1: you looking so sad? Just look at the TV. Tom Herman, 2557 02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,200 Speaker 1: he's gonna be he goes, No, he won't. You're gonna 2558 02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,920 Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow morning. I swear to got you told 2559 02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,720 Speaker 1: me you're gonna wake up to morow morning. You can 2560 02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:35,600 Speaker 1: be the next head coach, HeLa shoot Tiger. How much 2561 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:36,160 Speaker 1: of you drink? 2562 02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:36,880 Speaker 4: I want you to? 2563 02:03:37,240 --> 02:03:39,240 Speaker 1: What's up? So I'm gonna go work out. 2564 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Can't ye can't do the two steps in the dishes, 2565 02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:52,840 Speaker 2: but going on the next day. Just listen to his 2566 02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:55,520 Speaker 2: wife thinking, lady, you don't know that it's on the TV. 2567 02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,720 Speaker 4: He's getting asked crazy. 2568 02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:02,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, I hate to say it, most of 2569 02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:04,920 Speaker 1: my girlfriends didn't take the stuff out of this walking. 2570 02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:07,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but anyway, it must be me. 2571 02:04:07,720 --> 02:04:11,000 Speaker 1: It just must be me. Anyway, So chake this out, man, 2572 02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,480 Speaker 1: throw my leg kiff and all this stuff, so you know, 2573 02:04:13,680 --> 02:04:15,600 Speaker 1: keep off fallside the bed. I'm gonna wake up at 2574 02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:18,480 Speaker 1: seven thirty. I'm gonna work out of Franklin. Here I 2575 02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:21,200 Speaker 1: am where I go. All of a sudden, it's all 2576 02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,080 Speaker 1: over TV. So Kiffin, you know he's with sex and 2577 02:04:24,240 --> 02:04:26,880 Speaker 1: he gets all of school, right, I get. I get 2578 02:04:26,920 --> 02:04:31,920 Speaker 1: a text at one thirty Tom Herman is leaning to 2579 02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:35,400 Speaker 1: go to Texas, and I'm like, you gotta have us. 2580 02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:41,200 Speaker 1: He's up at one thirty anyway, So I get it. 2581 02:04:45,360 --> 02:04:46,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. My wife start to wake up. 2582 02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Next day we met. I get a call five o'clock 2583 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:52,840 Speaker 1: in the morning. Is Joe Leva? Well I missed the 2584 02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:57,280 Speaker 1: damn thing? So I call him, I said, Joe. He said, Eddie, 2585 02:04:57,280 --> 02:05:00,760 Speaker 1: how you doing great? He said, and you beat Aulis 2586 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:03,600 Speaker 1: you an hour? I said? Hell yeah, baby, man, I'm 2587 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:06,440 Speaker 1: making up now, sleeping the new numping and stuff on it. 2588 02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:11,760 Speaker 1: How do you know what? Man? How do you knowbody's 2589 02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,240 Speaker 1: put underworld and going a back room. I'm going, baby, 2590 02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:17,160 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm going down. I'm going down. I 2591 02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:18,800 Speaker 1: gotta I got a tie hold with a with a 2592 02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:21,480 Speaker 1: tea top border right, and man, I'm going I'm going 2593 02:05:21,560 --> 02:05:24,040 Speaker 1: as far as I can as I'm gonna hurt, hurt 2594 02:05:24,120 --> 02:05:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty down there in the state playing born on to 2595 02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:30,480 Speaker 1: buy you baby, I'm coming, baby, And all of a sudden, 2596 02:05:31,520 --> 02:05:34,440 Speaker 1: I get the hammer about half way says they didn't 2597 02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:37,360 Speaker 1: offer me the job. I've been screwed. Before. So I 2598 02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,920 Speaker 1: called somebody. I said, they want to meet me at 2599 02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:42,120 Speaker 1: seven thirty. Said, I don't think they're gonna tell you 2600 02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:44,960 Speaker 1: they don't have the job. I think they don't tell 2601 02:05:44,960 --> 02:05:47,360 Speaker 1: you got the job. So I get there and there's 2602 02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:50,680 Speaker 1: a big tiger in front office. Right Joe's standing there. Man, 2603 02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:53,840 Speaker 1: I come on a summers too. Wheel opened the door. 2604 02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:56,040 Speaker 1: He goes, well, you want the job or not? Man, 2605 02:05:56,120 --> 02:06:00,440 Speaker 1: I grabbed you better road. Yeah yeah, put me down, 2606 02:06:00,480 --> 02:06:02,160 Speaker 1: your big son of a gun right down in front 2607 02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:04,680 Speaker 1: of the tiger. Put me down. I'm squeezing him. So 2608 02:06:04,840 --> 02:06:06,960 Speaker 1: we go up there and he goes, I gotta tell 2609 02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:09,480 Speaker 1: you something, coach, he goes. He goes, man, I want 2610 02:06:09,520 --> 02:06:11,839 Speaker 1: to go to bed. Last night, he said, my stomach 2611 02:06:12,040 --> 02:06:14,200 Speaker 1: was killing me. Man, he said, you remember when you 2612 02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:16,400 Speaker 1: told me you hit me right down, and you said 2613 02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:19,040 Speaker 1: you know in your heart and you belly, I'm the 2614 02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:21,720 Speaker 1: best man, fellows you, he said. I felt, man, my 2615 02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,040 Speaker 1: stomach was that I'm not I said, I put that 2616 02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:30,000 Speaker 1: kath in Greek. Real Yeah. Way we went, man, God 2617 02:06:30,200 --> 02:06:33,760 Speaker 1: damn the story. Man, Hey, but you know what about competing. 2618 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I had some great people around me about competing. This 2619 02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,280 Speaker 1: to the very er I wasn't gonna let that USC 2620 02:06:39,560 --> 02:06:41,720 Speaker 1: thing happened to me again, it wouldn't. It wouldn't have 2621 02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:43,280 Speaker 1: been that I didn't try it hard enough. 2622 02:06:43,400 --> 02:06:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, held the rope the entire time. 2623 02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:47,160 Speaker 1: He let go the rope. 2624 02:06:47,280 --> 02:06:51,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. And also you and USC. It's like I could 2625 02:06:51,160 --> 02:06:54,560 Speaker 4: see it, but like you and l s here, I 2626 02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,080 Speaker 4: can't imagine you in l A doing a press conference 2627 02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:59,320 Speaker 4: as opposed to Yeah, God, a. 2628 02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:03,880 Speaker 1: Better plan tigers fifteen to oh now you'll want to 2629 02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:04,880 Speaker 1: get to the Joe Burro recruit. 2630 02:07:04,960 --> 02:07:06,600 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, here's what hell I was gonna say, how 2631 02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:10,320 Speaker 4: you get from Joey because you recurred Joe Jamar, all 2632 02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:11,600 Speaker 4: of these guys we all talked about. 2633 02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:14,000 Speaker 2: Right in your first your first official year as the 2634 02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:15,640 Speaker 2: head coach, that's when you go ten and three before 2635 02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:16,480 Speaker 2: you go fifteen. 2636 02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:18,520 Speaker 1: And oh no, we went yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, 2637 02:07:19,240 --> 02:07:22,120 Speaker 1: but pull that up quick, Yeah yeah, what was the right. 2638 02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:24,760 Speaker 4: Because I thought I saw, you know what happened in 2639 02:07:24,760 --> 02:07:26,280 Speaker 4: the third year you won the next championship. 2640 02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:29,040 Speaker 1: That's right, that's see what I went the uh one 2641 02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,320 Speaker 1: two years, I think the first year of ninety four, 2642 02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:35,120 Speaker 1: I think this next year, what first year, well what 2643 02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:38,680 Speaker 1: ninety four? The next year with tennant three right. 2644 02:07:39,040 --> 02:07:40,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so your first year was set okay, yeah, yeah, 2645 02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,920 Speaker 2: because Gyce was sixteen, Yeah, seventeen first. 2646 02:07:43,800 --> 02:07:45,440 Speaker 4: Okay, Now were you sweat? I know you will have 2647 02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,320 Speaker 4: the job for a year. But two and seventeen ninety 2648 02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:48,600 Speaker 4: four at LSU, that's not okay. 2649 02:07:48,880 --> 02:07:51,720 Speaker 1: What they wanted to hang me off the bridge and 2650 02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:55,920 Speaker 1: bat rouge. Yeah, I lost to Troy State, Alab. Yeah, 2651 02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,640 Speaker 1: they will not happen the net. We had a leadership committee. 2652 02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:04,640 Speaker 1: I had a team meeting. I was told, now, yeah, 2653 02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:08,080 Speaker 1: you know this ain'tlea cut it man. If y'all don't 2654 02:08:08,080 --> 02:08:10,640 Speaker 1: want to do it my way, leave now, go for 2655 02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:13,000 Speaker 1: any coach, any player. And they all stayed and I 2656 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,320 Speaker 1: had a good, good group. But we went to Florida 2657 02:08:16,160 --> 02:08:19,560 Speaker 1: and word was if we lost to Florida, I wasn't 2658 02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:23,120 Speaker 1: gonna make the plane ride back. That's all you gotta 2659 02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:27,400 Speaker 1: tell me, now, okay, all right, okay, which will use 2660 02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:32,480 Speaker 1: somebody's angle let me on the plane. Yeah okay. So 2661 02:08:33,520 --> 02:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the night before we stayed in Okallo, I thought we're 2662 02:08:35,640 --> 02:08:38,840 Speaker 1: gonna win tomorrow night boys, good any mind, we'll fix 2663 02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:44,120 Speaker 1: the kickie's board as we're gonna win. So you know, 2664 02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:46,120 Speaker 1: Florida has a great It was at two thirty, was 2665 02:08:46,200 --> 02:08:48,880 Speaker 1: hot as hell. But you remember the year before we 2666 02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,160 Speaker 1: had fun Mamba. I told you what, fuck yeah, I 2667 02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:53,560 Speaker 1: didn't let players go out with all their coaches, didn't 2668 02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:56,360 Speaker 1: let him fight, kept that cools hot and went back in. 2669 02:08:57,480 --> 02:08:59,720 Speaker 1: And that was the first time they played Tom Betty. 2670 02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,880 Speaker 1: Ain't no easy way out. I freaking love that song. Okay, 2671 02:09:03,960 --> 02:09:06,600 Speaker 1: and look it's tied going into the fourth quarter. It's 2672 02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:10,400 Speaker 1: a CBS game. Everybody, everybody in the world knows I 2673 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,440 Speaker 1: lose this game. I ain't wearing purple and gold man. 2674 02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I get out on the field and one of the 2675 02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:22,440 Speaker 1: thirty the numbers and the whole crowd of screaming, ain't 2676 02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:26,000 Speaker 1: no easy way out. He's thought of the gun. And 2677 02:09:26,080 --> 02:09:28,160 Speaker 1: I looked out training Jack and I just look it. 2678 02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I said, we knew it was nut cutting time. So anyway, 2679 02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I played that. We kicked their ass right the field 2680 02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,000 Speaker 1: the extra point kicker, the field goal kicker was perfect 2681 02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:41,200 Speaker 1: in all his career, and missed the extra point. We 2682 02:09:41,320 --> 02:09:45,320 Speaker 1: won seventeen sixty nothing. Yeah. Yeah, I walked on that 2683 02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:47,720 Speaker 1: I walk on that plane like a peacock. Yeah, baby, 2684 02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:51,520 Speaker 1: I made the plane. Boy, But look that was That 2685 02:09:51,640 --> 02:09:53,440 Speaker 1: was the turning point right there. That was the turning 2686 02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:56,680 Speaker 1: port on football team. Now I needed a quarterback. We 2687 02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,400 Speaker 1: had springball. I had Jamar, I hid just I'll tell 2688 02:10:00,400 --> 02:10:02,880 Speaker 1: you the recruiting store by that. But the quarterback is 2689 02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:07,240 Speaker 1: the guy you gotta have. So we have spring practice 2690 02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,280 Speaker 1: on TV. Remember now they don't want spring ball Animore 2691 02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:13,640 Speaker 1: because guys are poaching each other and all that. But 2692 02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:15,160 Speaker 1: we had on TV. You know, we didn't know nothing 2693 02:10:15,160 --> 02:10:18,840 Speaker 1: about that. So my son Cody is playing quarterback at 2694 02:10:19,160 --> 02:10:22,320 Speaker 1: McNee steak. He called me. He said that I saw 2695 02:10:22,360 --> 02:10:25,560 Speaker 1: you skirmish your quarterback suck. I said, I know. He goes, 2696 02:10:25,720 --> 02:10:26,920 Speaker 1: you better get a new quarterback. 2697 02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:27,960 Speaker 2: I know. 2698 02:10:28,840 --> 02:10:32,240 Speaker 1: And he said, coach, there's a guy named Joe Burrow 2699 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:36,200 Speaker 1: in Ohio State that is uh transferring. You want to 2700 02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:38,200 Speaker 1: look into them. So I walk out in the hall 2701 02:10:38,200 --> 02:10:40,320 Speaker 1: of guy's a gritting the tape. I say, anybody know 2702 02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:42,800 Speaker 1: a guy named Joe Burrow? And Bill Bush was on 2703 02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:45,400 Speaker 1: my staff. Hey, coach, I was there. I was there 2704 02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:48,240 Speaker 1: at the recruitment of Joe. He said, Coach, we get 2705 02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We're going to college football players. I said, 2706 02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:57,240 Speaker 1: go get Joe Burrow. No, Joe comes on a visit. Now, 2707 02:10:57,360 --> 02:11:00,560 Speaker 1: Joe was going to Cincinnati. Luke Fickle was the head 2708 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:05,520 Speaker 1: coach there, recruited Joe. Gerald's girlfriend was going to Cincinnati. 2709 02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:15,400 Speaker 1: Joe's daddy coach about an hour away from there. Yeah, 2710 02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:19,760 Speaker 1: so all the things that Joe needed, and they promised 2711 02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:22,640 Speaker 1: him he was gonna be a star. So Joe comes 2712 02:11:22,680 --> 02:11:24,760 Speaker 1: on to visit with his mom and daddy. Great people. 2713 02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:27,680 Speaker 1: And the first thing he tells me, say, Joe, I 2714 02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:32,840 Speaker 1: do coach. I don't want to talk to you what hees. 2715 02:11:32,880 --> 02:11:33,080 Speaker 5: Coach. 2716 02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:35,400 Speaker 1: I know you're a great recruiter. All I want to 2717 02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:40,040 Speaker 1: do is talk football and eat crawfish. I'll saying to myself, Man, 2718 02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:41,960 Speaker 1: if I didn't need a quarterback so bad, i'd put 2719 02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:44,160 Speaker 1: that song goes That's what I'm playing right now, so bad? 2720 02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:44,600 Speaker 2: Uh. 2721 02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Joe, That's all I said. So the next 2722 02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:51,120 Speaker 1: day we have a football meeting. There's about twelves. Then 2723 02:11:52,160 --> 02:11:55,360 Speaker 1: is daddy, Jerry Sullivan, guys that have been in the NFL. 2724 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,560 Speaker 1: It took me five minutes to figure out member Jimmy 2725 02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:02,720 Speaker 1: Johnson tell me what first thing versus smart quarterback. Joe 2726 02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:07,160 Speaker 1: was the smartest guy in the room. Including me, included 2727 02:12:07,200 --> 02:12:11,000 Speaker 1: all the coaches, included mama, my mama, if that ain't 2728 02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:14,080 Speaker 1: and everybody, and that was okay with me. So we 2729 02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,440 Speaker 1: went through the We went through the uh the day 2730 02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,680 Speaker 1: and then we go to a restaurant. All right, Joe 2731 02:12:19,720 --> 02:12:22,200 Speaker 1: wants to eat crawfish. Right, So we get there, my 2732 02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:25,280 Speaker 1: on campus recruiting cornator. Cause comes up to the coach. 2733 02:12:25,320 --> 02:12:29,640 Speaker 1: They ain't got no crawfish. My good friend Charles Bagler, 2734 02:12:29,680 --> 02:12:32,080 Speaker 1: who's dead today. He said, coach, you've got to be 2735 02:12:32,120 --> 02:12:36,240 Speaker 1: able to take on your feet. Then on act right, 2736 02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:41,360 Speaker 1: I said, call my friend Boodroom, tell him to coach 2737 02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:44,320 Speaker 1: some crawfish. He always got crawfish. Tell him to bring 2738 02:12:44,400 --> 02:12:46,600 Speaker 1: it through the kitchen, put it on the train. That 2739 02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:49,200 Speaker 1: says the restaurant, we at and serve it to Joe. 2740 02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I'll be damn thirty minutes when we got hot crawfish 2741 02:12:53,240 --> 02:12:57,760 Speaker 1: for Joe. Right, Joe's eating crawfishing. Man, everybody knew this, Joe, 2742 02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:00,360 Speaker 1: you know there it is, right, but they in the 2743 02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:01,360 Speaker 1: car and see all the stuff. 2744 02:13:01,440 --> 02:13:01,520 Speaker 2: Right. 2745 02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:05,000 Speaker 1: So anyway, so you know, in any good sales and 2746 02:13:05,080 --> 02:13:07,240 Speaker 1: you guys know what this about, what you do here, 2747 02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:11,040 Speaker 1: there's always a crack in the door right right, But 2748 02:13:11,080 --> 02:13:13,640 Speaker 1: you got assist that crack. You gotta seize it. If 2749 02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:16,480 Speaker 1: the crack's not down, wait, wait, they're gonna be cracking 2750 02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:19,000 Speaker 1: the door. And man, I went up to him, and 2751 02:13:19,120 --> 02:13:21,640 Speaker 1: here's his answer. I said, Joe, I want to talk 2752 02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:25,080 Speaker 1: to you. He went, yes, Sir, I knew it. So 2753 02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:26,400 Speaker 1: I took him. I said, this might have been the 2754 02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:28,440 Speaker 1: most important talk I ever had it all my life. 2755 02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:32,400 Speaker 1: We're in the parking lot. Okay, the gravels and rope people. 2756 02:13:32,920 --> 02:13:37,920 Speaker 1: The dust is coming Mike Anderson's restaurant, a place we 2757 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:42,400 Speaker 1: always went to. And uh, I said, Joe, if you 2758 02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:46,760 Speaker 1: tell anybody about this conversation, it never happened. So I 2759 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:49,400 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell you're talking about. I said, Joe, 2760 02:13:50,360 --> 02:13:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't get you. They're gonna fire me. I get you. 2761 02:13:54,960 --> 02:13:58,240 Speaker 1: We're gonna win the national championship. That's how important you 2762 02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,600 Speaker 1: are to me. Okay, there you go right there, and 2763 02:14:01,680 --> 02:14:04,640 Speaker 1: we're in the parking you're to the left, oh yeah, 2764 02:14:04,640 --> 02:14:05,040 Speaker 1: to the left. 2765 02:14:05,240 --> 02:14:07,080 Speaker 4: And so you're telling this kid, if if you don't 2766 02:14:07,120 --> 02:14:09,240 Speaker 4: come here, I will not have a job. But if 2767 02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:10,720 Speaker 4: you do, we were gonna win it all. 2768 02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:16,680 Speaker 1: Now there's three quarterbacks ahead of you. I'm gonna put 2769 02:14:16,720 --> 02:14:19,880 Speaker 1: you on the fourteen and you're gonna earn you way 2770 02:14:19,920 --> 02:14:22,640 Speaker 1: in front of the football team. But Joe, I know 2771 02:14:22,760 --> 02:14:25,680 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. They're good, but they're not as good as you. 2772 02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:30,080 Speaker 1: I ain't seen that. Damn. Look, ye me, I was 2773 02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:33,360 Speaker 1: just going on on what I heard, right, and I 2774 02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:35,680 Speaker 1: saw in that meeting, right, you know what I mean. 2775 02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:39,320 Speaker 1: You gotta take a shot, baby, Yeah, take a shot. Hey, 2776 02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:46,120 Speaker 1: it was that M and M got one shot man. Yeah, 2777 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:51,000 Speaker 1: it's a song. Huh, sweat spaghetti, throw a ball over 2778 02:14:51,080 --> 02:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the plate. You forget the work. You gotta take that, 2779 02:14:57,400 --> 02:14:59,960 Speaker 1: right man, I can hear That's all. I may get 2780 02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:03,000 Speaker 1: fed up. That was me out there, so I said, list, 2781 02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:06,560 Speaker 1: I just playing lose you so by him, and now 2782 02:15:06,560 --> 02:15:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm just. 2783 02:15:06,840 --> 02:15:07,520 Speaker 4: Like, I gotta get this. 2784 02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:10,840 Speaker 2: If I don't get this, I'm dead. 2785 02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm dead. 2786 02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:14,000 Speaker 4: So what's what's his facial expression? Which is response when 2787 02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:15,840 Speaker 4: you say I don't get you work, I'm getting fired. 2788 02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,440 Speaker 1: You could tell when you tell somebody it's like, aha, 2789 02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:24,560 Speaker 1: moment I started looking at that. I know that. Look. 2790 02:15:25,640 --> 02:15:28,440 Speaker 1: I head home right now. I said, now you're gonna 2791 02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:32,120 Speaker 1: come run your way, But I know you're better than them. Now, Joe. 2792 02:15:32,960 --> 02:15:36,280 Speaker 1: By the way, I have two pretty good receivers. One's 2793 02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,920 Speaker 1: name is Jamar Chase and one name is Justin Jeffson. 2794 02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:44,640 Speaker 1: You don't know about him yet, but you gotta love him, okay, coach. 2795 02:15:45,000 --> 02:15:48,400 Speaker 1: So the next day we have a recruiting meeting. You 2796 02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:51,400 Speaker 1: guys been there. The Sunday's a business day to me. 2797 02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Now Sunday is you know, you're nice and nice and night. 2798 02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Then let's go Roberts. So we have a little little 2799 02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:01,879 Speaker 1: just Joe with his parents and all of the coaches, 2800 02:16:03,880 --> 02:16:07,680 Speaker 1: and Joe goes, well, I'm going on and I'm not 2801 02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna talk to anybody till Thursday. Now you think my 2802 02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:15,640 Speaker 1: ass is gonna wait till Thursday. No, no way, right, 2803 02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:19,920 Speaker 1: So they leave. So we have a little vote all 2804 02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:23,320 Speaker 1: the coaches, all the coaches, why we have fuming. Where's 2805 02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:29,000 Speaker 1: Joe going Cincinnati? My ass is going Cincinnati. We're gonna 2806 02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:31,400 Speaker 1: find a wait. Boys, Well, coach, he's not talking to 2807 02:16:31,400 --> 02:16:34,600 Speaker 1: anybody with I don't want to hear that. So on 2808 02:16:34,760 --> 02:16:38,240 Speaker 1: this trip I made good friends with his brother Dan. 2809 02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Now Dad is very talking that Joe is not. We laugh, 2810 02:16:41,959 --> 02:16:45,560 Speaker 1: we joke and everything. So I said Derek. Call Dan. 2811 02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:49,119 Speaker 1: I'll call him on Monday morning. You guys have heard 2812 02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:52,480 Speaker 1: the story, right, you guys have heard this so many times. 2813 02:16:53,080 --> 02:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Then where you think Joe will go? Well, coaches, he's decision, Dad, 2814 02:17:00,200 --> 02:17:04,480 Speaker 1: shut the f up. Then nothing wrong with Cincinnati, Then 2815 02:17:04,640 --> 02:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati or L s U. Then he's gonna win the Heisman. Here, 2816 02:17:08,560 --> 02:17:10,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna win. He could be a first round draft 2817 02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:12,200 Speaker 1: dr we're going to that. I know, coach, I know, coach, 2818 02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:15,320 Speaker 1: I know, but it's here. I said, bullshit, Dad, I said, Dan, 2819 02:17:15,400 --> 02:17:17,280 Speaker 1: do you love you brother? He goes, yes, I do. 2820 02:17:17,480 --> 02:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I said, I'm on, come on, I said, Dan, take 2821 02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,760 Speaker 1: your hand and put it down your pants. I said, squeeze, hi, 2822 02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:25,760 Speaker 1: damn things, make sure you got to he couse, I'm squeezing. 2823 02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm squeezing, squeeze hard, and you got to You're gonna 2824 02:17:30,280 --> 02:17:31,880 Speaker 1: call your brother and you're gonna time to come to 2825 02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:34,560 Speaker 1: L s U. So he was my third party co 2826 02:17:35,440 --> 02:17:38,080 Speaker 1: the whole week. We tell this story all the time. 2827 02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:40,960 Speaker 1: It's true story. I mean, I think you actually was 2828 02:17:41,000 --> 02:17:46,520 Speaker 1: squeezing him, right, got a fight out, you got to right, Yeah, 2829 02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:51,200 Speaker 1: let's go, bab. So he called Joe every day. What 2830 02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:55,320 Speaker 1: Joe knowing we're talking to damn Now. Joe says that 2831 02:17:55,360 --> 02:17:58,560 Speaker 1: the end that wasn't the deciding factor, but at least 2832 02:17:58,600 --> 02:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I felt good enough my ass one wait till Thursday, 2833 02:18:01,840 --> 02:18:06,640 Speaker 1: you know, right. So the Boom had a call Joe Burrow, Yo, 2834 02:18:07,520 --> 02:18:09,920 Speaker 1: this is all or none, right, guy, all or none right? Yo, 2835 02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:13,240 Speaker 1: been in business deals that helped y'all get top. He 2836 02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:18,320 Speaker 1: goes close, I won't be a tire. What here we go, man, 2837 02:18:18,640 --> 02:18:21,880 Speaker 1: here we go and look, so we get going right. 2838 02:18:22,000 --> 02:18:25,840 Speaker 1: So Joe comes with Tommy Moffatt in the summer first day. Now, 2839 02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,240 Speaker 1: I got three quarterbacks ahead of them, and these quarterbacks 2840 02:18:29,760 --> 02:18:31,240 Speaker 1: they got in the locker room. You know how they 2841 02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:36,280 Speaker 1: got They got these guys. Joe's an outsider. They got 2842 02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:39,440 Speaker 1: these guys convinced that they had a guy. I knew 2843 02:18:39,879 --> 02:18:45,039 Speaker 1: in my heart that this was not beneficial for us 2844 02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:48,560 Speaker 1: to win the championship that he was because the top 2845 02:18:48,560 --> 02:18:51,760 Speaker 1: of quarterback he was. So Joe gets out there were 2846 02:18:51,800 --> 02:18:55,160 Speaker 1: running one tenth. He wins every one of them. It 2847 02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:58,320 Speaker 1: ain't even close. After that. 2848 02:18:58,600 --> 02:19:02,400 Speaker 2: Foster Tomorrow, who yeah, we know Foster friend of the show. 2849 02:19:02,560 --> 02:19:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Foster hosted Joe on the on his recruiter him 2850 02:19:07,360 --> 02:19:12,000 Speaker 1: and Foster went through pasta and the whole team was rightful. 2851 02:19:12,000 --> 02:19:18,520 Speaker 1: The soap got a quarterback throw Joe that summer. I 2852 02:19:18,680 --> 02:19:20,480 Speaker 1: wasn't there every day, but every day I was. He 2853 02:19:20,959 --> 02:19:23,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even close. He was not gonna lose on one tenth, 2854 02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:26,760 Speaker 1: he was not gonna lose anything. You saw the competitive desire. 2855 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,600 Speaker 1: The other guys were trying, they couldn't, and before you 2856 02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:32,280 Speaker 1: know it, he won the locker room. Before you know it, 2857 02:19:32,400 --> 02:19:35,080 Speaker 1: the whole team was thrown together at the end and 2858 02:19:35,240 --> 02:19:39,040 Speaker 1: there was no ammate animals, and he towards Joe. So 2859 02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:43,959 Speaker 1: we get into two days. Right now, I'm training four 2860 02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:46,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now. We opened up with the University of 2861 02:19:46,720 --> 02:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Miami in Jerry World at Dallas. So we get about 2862 02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:52,880 Speaker 1: two weeks and we say, look, we gotta cut it. 2863 02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:59,680 Speaker 1: We'll get two guys. I had the coaches grade every drill, right, 2864 02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:10,440 Speaker 1: Joe won every drill drill. But when I we told 2865 02:20:10,480 --> 02:20:14,840 Speaker 1: all the coaches, no, we throw all the quarterbacks, that 2866 02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:17,400 Speaker 1: we need to start training too, and that Joe and 2867 02:20:17,560 --> 02:20:21,080 Speaker 1: Miles was going to be the first two quarterbacks. Oh 2868 02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:25,080 Speaker 1: hell broke. One guy transferred, the next guy didn't come 2869 02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to practice, and man it was a dark cloud. The 2870 02:20:28,600 --> 02:20:30,920 Speaker 1: players didn't want to practice. It was bad. So the 2871 02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:35,240 Speaker 1: next day we had to have a a player's leadership committee. 2872 02:20:35,560 --> 02:20:38,920 Speaker 1: All right, and those are all guys that I had recruited. 2873 02:20:40,120 --> 02:20:44,800 Speaker 1: And they say, coach, you're rome. Joe's not the starting quarterback. 2874 02:20:44,879 --> 02:20:47,600 Speaker 1: He's not the best quarterback. This guy is obviously the 2875 02:20:47,640 --> 02:20:49,640 Speaker 1: guy they believed, and he was a good quarterback. He 2876 02:20:49,680 --> 02:20:52,760 Speaker 1: did some good thing. So I finally had to put 2877 02:20:52,800 --> 02:20:55,080 Speaker 1: the graves down, and finally put it. I went around, 2878 02:20:55,240 --> 02:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I looked at every one of them. I said, I 2879 02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:02,560 Speaker 1: recruited your house, right. I said, I'm gonna treat you 2880 02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:05,000 Speaker 1: like my son, right. I Have I done that? Yes? 2881 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:08,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I said, you think I'd do anything a 2882 02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:12,560 Speaker 1: little bit stern o boy to hurt you. I have 2883 02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:16,520 Speaker 1: to hurt this football team. It's my job to make 2884 02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:20,440 Speaker 1: the decision to show, job to play. I know Joe 2885 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Burrow win us to the championship. Okay, you gotta believe me. 2886 02:21:25,320 --> 02:21:29,520 Speaker 1: You know what this said, Coachoe, you right, we think 2887 02:21:29,640 --> 02:21:32,760 Speaker 1: they the guy better be a quarterback. But we're gonna 2888 02:21:32,760 --> 02:21:34,640 Speaker 1: trust your coach. And they went in there and they 2889 02:21:34,680 --> 02:21:37,240 Speaker 1: told the team and we trust coaches decisions and we're 2890 02:21:37,240 --> 02:21:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna follow you and bam and the way we went 2891 02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:43,120 Speaker 1: that might have been, but the meeting in the parking 2892 02:21:43,160 --> 02:21:45,520 Speaker 1: lot and the meeting with the leadership committee and they 2893 02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:48,680 Speaker 1: they they the ones that the leadership committee took it 2894 02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,320 Speaker 1: to the team and said, hey, we're gonna back up 2895 02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:52,920 Speaker 1: Joe and we're going and that's how it all. 2896 02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,920 Speaker 2: Did anything come about? When his first game he goes 2897 02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:57,520 Speaker 2: eleven for twenty four and only throw us for one 2898 02:21:57,600 --> 02:21:58,160 Speaker 2: hundred and forty. 2899 02:21:58,720 --> 02:22:00,880 Speaker 1: You know what, be honest, and he'll tell you this, 2900 02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:04,199 Speaker 1: Joe got better. Now, Joe hadn't played it three years. Okay, 2901 02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,160 Speaker 1: Joe got better, and thank god, you know, think about this. 2902 02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:11,520 Speaker 1: He graduated in three years. All state basketball player, all 2903 02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:16,199 Speaker 1: state football player, mother was a principal, daddy was a coach, 2904 02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:19,880 Speaker 1: great character, great all that. But he had played three years. 2905 02:22:20,280 --> 02:22:22,560 Speaker 1: So he graduated three years. Thank god we had him 2906 02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:25,000 Speaker 1: for two his first year. Now he got better as 2907 02:22:25,080 --> 02:22:27,080 Speaker 1: went on, and then we went to the spread and 2908 02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:29,200 Speaker 1: he just started. But he got better. 2909 02:22:29,879 --> 02:22:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean he's one of the best 2910 02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:33,480 Speaker 2: of all time. But I'm wondering if you had that 2911 02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:36,039 Speaker 2: leadership meeting to where you're like this, the guy we're 2912 02:22:36,040 --> 02:22:37,959 Speaker 2: going with everybody's against it. You have the first game 2913 02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:40,200 Speaker 2: against Miami, he only throws one forty and surprised some 2914 02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:41,400 Speaker 2: of the guys like, look. 2915 02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:45,520 Speaker 1: But you know what he audible to a player on 2916 02:22:45,600 --> 02:22:48,960 Speaker 1: four down that helped us win the game. And then 2917 02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:52,360 Speaker 1: you and yeah, it's kind of like, well everybody saw it. 2918 02:22:52,520 --> 02:22:55,720 Speaker 1: But later on we beat Georgia. Now Georgia was right 2919 02:22:55,840 --> 02:22:58,360 Speaker 1: number two of the country that year, and we went 2920 02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:02,280 Speaker 1: for four to five times and we beat the the 2921 02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,959 Speaker 1: ole guy on Jeorgia. Yea, and that was Joe's major, 2922 02:23:05,600 --> 02:23:06,960 Speaker 1: first major winner show. 2923 02:23:07,080 --> 02:23:08,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, coming out party that was. 2924 02:23:08,520 --> 02:23:10,920 Speaker 4: That was a ten to three year correct, yes, three years. 2925 02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Let me say somethingbody that ten and three year we're 2926 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:19,640 Speaker 1: playing Uh, you see if they're undefeated, they're very good. 2927 02:23:20,800 --> 02:23:24,080 Speaker 1: And we beat getting beat fourteen to nothing. It's eleven 2928 02:23:24,080 --> 02:23:27,480 Speaker 1: o'clock game. We had awake. It's like and they they 2929 02:23:27,520 --> 02:23:29,959 Speaker 1: popped playing the Tigers, right, and all of a sudden, 2930 02:23:30,360 --> 02:23:33,640 Speaker 1: Joe throws an interception and this guy blindsizes him and 2931 02:23:33,720 --> 02:23:37,640 Speaker 1: targets him. Okay, and Joe's in all four. I don't 2932 02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:39,400 Speaker 1: know the guy that hit him. Look at it right there, 2933 02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:42,280 Speaker 1: the guy spin on him. That guy right there is 2934 02:23:42,360 --> 02:23:45,920 Speaker 1: from Yarns and spin on Joe. Okay, the team saw it. 2935 02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:49,760 Speaker 1: I said, Miles, get ready. Joe stood up. After that, 2936 02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:54,560 Speaker 1: I ain't coming out. We commenced the kicking these boys 2937 02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:56,640 Speaker 1: ass and joy and never lost another game in shoot 2938 02:23:56,640 --> 02:24:00,440 Speaker 1: before that moment right there made Joe bow right now. 2939 02:24:00,760 --> 02:24:04,240 Speaker 1: He wasn't coming out. I mean, he wasn't coming out. 2940 02:24:04,320 --> 02:24:07,119 Speaker 1: We come in the kicking there ass. That was his moment. 2941 02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:08,360 Speaker 2: Damn. 2942 02:24:08,440 --> 02:24:12,360 Speaker 1: That was his moment when the team finally said, you 2943 02:24:12,440 --> 02:24:13,640 Speaker 1: know what, here's our guy. 2944 02:24:13,959 --> 02:24:17,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, here his senior day when he jogs out of 2945 02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:19,400 Speaker 4: the tunnel and his last name is spelled e a 2946 02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:23,120 Speaker 4: u X. What would how bad? First off? Sol like 2947 02:24:23,800 --> 02:24:26,640 Speaker 4: understanding your crowd, your fan base changing like that, Like 2948 02:24:27,560 --> 02:24:30,200 Speaker 4: it's it's very impressive, and it's one of those things 2949 02:24:30,200 --> 02:24:32,280 Speaker 4: where like everybody's an l U fan in that moment 2950 02:24:32,400 --> 02:24:34,920 Speaker 4: watching that happen. What did he talk to you about 2951 02:24:34,920 --> 02:24:35,400 Speaker 4: that before? 2952 02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Who? 2953 02:24:35,959 --> 02:24:37,600 Speaker 4: Like or did you kind of get surprised by it? 2954 02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:43,160 Speaker 1: He acts, Derek, Well, here's what happened. You know we're 2955 02:24:43,240 --> 02:24:47,920 Speaker 1: going so well. I gave him the keys. Joe, he's 2956 02:24:47,959 --> 02:24:51,640 Speaker 1: the leader. You tell me what y'all want, not I 2957 02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:56,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't no puss nothing like that, you know what I mean? 2958 02:24:56,920 --> 02:24:59,440 Speaker 1: But on little things. While I was in on the 2959 02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:02,080 Speaker 1: side of what should do, not do? Go to the movie? 2960 02:25:02,160 --> 02:25:04,880 Speaker 1: Not go to the movie? I let Joe design and 2961 02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:07,360 Speaker 1: he went to Derek's coach. If I can put e 2962 02:25:07,480 --> 02:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a u X he was on his own thoughts. That 2963 02:25:10,480 --> 02:25:14,320 Speaker 1: goes to show you the showmanship that he has. You know, 2964 02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:17,160 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of great players, great coaches 2965 02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:21,520 Speaker 1: can compartmentalize. I'm sure you guys can do that. You 2966 02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:24,520 Speaker 1: can put one thing in your mind, focus said it. 2967 02:25:24,959 --> 02:25:26,720 Speaker 1: If you have to change, go to there and come back. 2968 02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:28,720 Speaker 1: He does. He does it with the best of them. 2969 02:25:29,240 --> 02:25:32,039 Speaker 1: They went crazy. You talked about you talked about captured 2970 02:25:32,080 --> 02:25:34,160 Speaker 1: the state of Louisiana, and I think we'd beat uh 2971 02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:35,360 Speaker 1: Texas a. 2972 02:25:35,520 --> 02:25:41,000 Speaker 4: Fifty, really beat the ship out of them fifteen and oh, 2973 02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:45,599 Speaker 4: bro Eaux is such a badass move. That's so fucking badass. 2974 02:25:45,280 --> 02:25:46,480 Speaker 1: Almost as good as the cigar. 2975 02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:49,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he kind of started that too, right. 2976 02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:51,360 Speaker 1: Thing? 2977 02:25:51,920 --> 02:25:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? What uh do you guys still keep keep up 2978 02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:55,640 Speaker 4: with each other? 2979 02:25:55,879 --> 02:25:58,000 Speaker 1: If I texted Joey your Texas back in a minute. Yeah, 2980 02:25:58,160 --> 02:25:59,560 Speaker 1: but you know what, I'm not gonna call those guys 2981 02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:03,320 Speaker 1: a mess. All right, Jamaar Chase, All right, Jamar Chase 2982 02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:07,440 Speaker 1: is committed to back then a couple of different commits. 2983 02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:09,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And uh, that's one of 2984 02:26:09,560 --> 02:26:11,520 Speaker 1: my favorite moments right there. You know, I told him 2985 02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm taking either on that seagull board, Prescott. Yeah, I 2986 02:26:15,800 --> 02:26:17,560 Speaker 1: told my ex wife. Now, I said that right there 2987 02:26:17,760 --> 02:26:20,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be a moment caught in time, and it 2988 02:26:20,640 --> 02:26:24,360 Speaker 1: sure was. But anyway, Jamar Chase was committed, but at 2989 02:26:24,440 --> 02:26:26,959 Speaker 1: this time he was committed to Florida. But he came 2990 02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,800 Speaker 1: to camp. If daddy was there and his mama, Miss 2991 02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:33,039 Speaker 1: de Lee was there, who I love. Okay, Mickey Joseph 2992 02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:36,720 Speaker 1: was recruit. Who I love, great recruit. But the staff 2993 02:26:36,840 --> 02:26:39,200 Speaker 1: before and Jamar is big. I can see it, but 2994 02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done it. Told Jamar he had to 2995 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:50,360 Speaker 1: play cornerback. Can you imagine you the mom set? No, no, 2996 02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:54,680 Speaker 1: we ain't happened, We ain't going to shoe. So he 2997 02:26:54,840 --> 02:26:57,760 Speaker 1: runs a slug, goal, slant and goal. I guess one 2998 02:26:57,800 --> 02:27:03,320 Speaker 1: of our best players, our best recruit, almost break his ankle. Cornerback. Yeah. 2999 02:27:03,320 --> 02:27:04,840 Speaker 1: I looked at his daddy and I said, over my 3000 02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:07,840 Speaker 1: dead body. Jamar Chase is going to Florida coause you 3001 02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,360 Speaker 1: gotta get the mama. So we worked hard, making you 3002 02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:14,800 Speaker 1: work hard. Anyway, we end up getting Jamar Chase. Justin Jefferson, 3003 02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:18,200 Speaker 1: Justin Jeffson comes to camp, does the same thing. We've 3004 02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:20,199 Speaker 1: got best players against best. He's a two star recruit, 3005 02:27:20,280 --> 02:27:24,840 Speaker 1: right to star recruit. Yes, sir, one hundred and sixty pounds, 3006 02:27:24,879 --> 02:27:27,920 Speaker 1: soaking wet. But both of his brothers played at LSU. Okay, 3007 02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:30,720 Speaker 1: so he does a good, good job in camp, and 3008 02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:32,760 Speaker 1: we said, wait a minute, now, this boys in the 3009 02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:35,200 Speaker 1: state of Louisiana. See, I used to tell our guys, 3010 02:27:35,640 --> 02:27:40,600 Speaker 1: trust your own evaluations. Don't give it this well Alabama 3011 02:27:40,680 --> 02:27:43,520 Speaker 1: offered them. We got off of bullshit. That stuff will 3012 02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:48,560 Speaker 1: get you fired. Let's trust our own evaluation. So I 3013 02:27:48,720 --> 02:27:52,480 Speaker 1: go down to his school, mean it as a coach, 3014 02:27:52,560 --> 02:27:54,400 Speaker 1: have been known each other for a long time. But maybe, 3015 02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:59,480 Speaker 1: I said, coach, we will offer justice. They'll feel good 3016 02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:02,120 Speaker 1: about him. You can played show, I said, gouse, he 3017 02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:04,160 Speaker 1: did some real good things for us. He goes, you know, 3018 02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be eligible for signing 3019 02:28:05,840 --> 02:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the day, but he can do some work and maybe 3020 02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:10,640 Speaker 1: we can get for the summer, I said, who else 3021 02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:13,640 Speaker 1: is offering? Then Nickel State and they played in the 3022 02:28:13,720 --> 02:28:16,119 Speaker 1: run run run offense and stuff there so they couldn't 3023 02:28:16,120 --> 02:28:19,120 Speaker 1: see nothing. So he got out. I got eligible in 3024 02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:21,200 Speaker 1: in July, justin just. 3025 02:28:23,160 --> 02:28:26,680 Speaker 2: Golly, and then just seeing that machine come alive during 3026 02:28:26,720 --> 02:28:27,920 Speaker 2: that fifteen and over run like. 3027 02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:33,160 Speaker 4: That of talent bro dude, I mean, arguably the best 3028 02:28:33,200 --> 02:28:34,320 Speaker 4: offense to ever step on the field. 3029 02:28:34,400 --> 02:28:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you. So Steve is making one of my 3030 02:28:37,959 --> 02:28:43,760 Speaker 1: best friends in general. We want eighty percent game with Steve. Okay, great, 3031 02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:48,520 Speaker 1: great guy love He's like John Wayne Man. He's a 3032 02:28:48,560 --> 02:28:52,320 Speaker 1: good guy. He handles it in the office that needs 3033 02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:56,160 Speaker 1: to band. But we didn't score any points against Alabama 3034 02:28:57,080 --> 02:29:04,760 Speaker 1: two thousand, uh be seventeen. So in twenty eighteen we 3035 02:29:04,840 --> 02:29:08,720 Speaker 1: were studying the RPOs, so we brought a young guy 3036 02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:12,640 Speaker 1: named Joe Brady who was an intern at the Saints 3037 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:16,120 Speaker 1: but had been at Penn State with the guy I 3038 02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:19,320 Speaker 1: forget his name. Uh he was at Mississippi State the 3039 02:29:19,360 --> 02:29:21,440 Speaker 1: head coach. But they were good at RPOs, the run 3040 02:29:21,480 --> 02:29:26,120 Speaker 1: pass options. So Joe comes, put up, gives our staff 3041 02:29:26,160 --> 02:29:30,760 Speaker 1: a lecture or run pass options again. Then on Nancy 3042 02:29:30,840 --> 02:29:36,680 Speaker 1: t right, but central situational awareness. Baby, U do you 3043 02:29:36,720 --> 02:29:39,119 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. It took me five 3044 02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:44,680 Speaker 1: minutes to realize whoa, whoa, this's got a special So 3045 02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:50,520 Speaker 1: I told Steve after we played Alabama's and Steve shut 3046 02:29:50,840 --> 02:29:53,320 Speaker 1: when you n LSU you got how you go beat Alabama? 3047 02:29:53,320 --> 02:29:54,800 Speaker 1: You ain't gonna tell everybody that to day how you 3048 02:29:54,840 --> 02:29:57,240 Speaker 1: gonna match? Um Man, it was so dumblant. I thought 3049 02:29:57,280 --> 02:29:59,680 Speaker 1: we had to get bigger off Taska. I wasn't that 3050 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:02,560 Speaker 1: we need to spread the ball out and we need 3051 02:30:02,600 --> 02:30:04,960 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback. I got him. Now we need 3052 02:30:05,040 --> 02:30:08,720 Speaker 1: to learn to spread offense. He knew it. I said Steve, 3053 02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:11,960 Speaker 1: if I hired Joe, will you let him teach us 3054 02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:15,440 Speaker 1: to spread? He goes, hell, yeah, Now I just asked 3055 02:30:15,520 --> 02:30:19,640 Speaker 1: him right after we didn't score damn poortigaus Alabama. So 3056 02:30:20,240 --> 02:30:23,360 Speaker 1: that was a teachable moment. Followers right, kind of humble, 3057 02:30:23,959 --> 02:30:28,240 Speaker 1: and we brought Joe in. Steve and Joe were wonderful. 3058 02:30:28,920 --> 02:30:31,040 Speaker 1: We went to the spread, we went to the lookovers, 3059 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:34,280 Speaker 1: and we looked at the sideline. If Joe Brady caught 3060 02:30:34,320 --> 02:30:38,160 Speaker 1: you in the defense, and he told Joe Burrow what 3061 02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:41,600 Speaker 1: to do what those two casts we had. We burned 3062 02:30:41,959 --> 02:30:46,720 Speaker 1: so many people by athletic ability, great quarterback, great players, 3063 02:30:46,760 --> 02:30:49,120 Speaker 1: and we had a great offensive line in great coaches. 3064 02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:50,720 Speaker 1: They all came together. 3065 02:30:51,240 --> 02:30:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah when did When did Joe Brady leave for Buffalo? 3066 02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:58,240 Speaker 1: He well, well we went, we went the National championship. Right. 3067 02:30:58,400 --> 02:30:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 3068 02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:01,080 Speaker 1: Now, I don't partake. I don't go out no more. 3069 02:31:01,720 --> 02:31:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, I've been I've been sober for almost twenty 3070 02:31:03,640 --> 02:31:06,200 Speaker 1: six years now. Thank god. If I wasn't, the whole 3071 02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:10,840 Speaker 1: world would know, I promise you. So I had a 3072 02:31:11,040 --> 02:31:13,240 Speaker 1: press conference the next day. So I go to press 3073 02:31:13,360 --> 02:31:17,080 Speaker 1: conference and then I get on the bus. Somebody Joe 3074 02:31:17,120 --> 02:31:19,480 Speaker 1: Burrow's going, Joe Brady's going to the NFL. I'm like, 3075 02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:23,240 Speaker 1: can I just enjoy this stuff for one day? Day? 3076 02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:25,560 Speaker 1: He was going, no ship that day. He was going, Yeah, 3077 02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:28,640 Speaker 1: that's the game. 3078 02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:31,000 Speaker 4: That is the game. Like you have success, they're gonna 3079 02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,360 Speaker 4: take your assistant coaches away from you. 3080 02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:33,080 Speaker 1: That's right. 3081 02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can't hard to feel shoes like 3082 02:31:35,160 --> 02:31:38,560 Speaker 4: Joe Brady after that, Man, what a story. Just being 3083 02:31:38,600 --> 02:31:40,000 Speaker 4: able to sit here and take all that in that 3084 02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:42,640 Speaker 4: was unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, you were you were at us Cno. 3085 02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Four. Correct, set again. 3086 02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:45,000 Speaker 4: You were at US Cno. 3087 02:31:45,040 --> 02:31:47,680 Speaker 1: Four National chap back four. 3088 02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:51,360 Speaker 4: You take two thousand and four USC versus twenty nineteen LSU. 3089 02:31:51,840 --> 02:31:53,360 Speaker 4: They both step up US to buy the grid iron 3090 02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:54,920 Speaker 4: for the national championship. Who wins that game? 3091 02:31:55,000 --> 02:31:56,959 Speaker 1: Let me say something to you. We had fifty five 3092 02:31:57,120 --> 02:32:00,200 Speaker 1: sacks in the USC called the wild Bunch, and we 3093 02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:03,960 Speaker 1: gave it up one point eight yards of carry. We 3094 02:32:04,120 --> 02:32:07,520 Speaker 1: led the nation in turn of ratio. But I will 3095 02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,680 Speaker 1: say this to you. I'll tell you, guys the game plan. 3096 02:32:10,920 --> 02:32:12,280 Speaker 1: You don't need to write this now. If your boy's 3097 02:32:12,280 --> 02:32:17,800 Speaker 1: gonna be coaches twenty nineteen game plan, you already. If 3098 02:32:17,840 --> 02:32:20,840 Speaker 1: the bus left at two thirty, I'm gonna ask you 3099 02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:23,720 Speaker 1: a question. I got on the bus and I made 3100 02:32:23,760 --> 02:32:25,680 Speaker 1: sure damn Joe Burrows on the bus here. I mean, 3101 02:32:26,560 --> 02:32:28,720 Speaker 1: if he went on the bus bus driving, you ain't 3102 02:32:28,800 --> 02:32:31,680 Speaker 1: leaving man. We got to the stadium, I say that 3103 02:32:31,840 --> 02:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Joe throw the ball at Jamoar if he ain't open, 3104 02:32:35,080 --> 02:32:36,959 Speaker 1: throw it the just and ready break. And I became 3105 02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:39,560 Speaker 1: a fan because I knew nobody could stop us. We 3106 02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:43,000 Speaker 1: scored fifty points a game. As much as I like 3107 02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:48,199 Speaker 1: that USC team, we were in the pro style offense. 3108 02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:51,440 Speaker 1: We weren't in a spread and we could get ahead 3109 02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:54,480 Speaker 1: of him. And I do believe Miami had a great 3110 02:32:54,520 --> 02:32:57,080 Speaker 1: team too, But I do believe because of the spread, 3111 02:32:57,160 --> 02:32:59,560 Speaker 1: because of Joe Burrow, we can outscore anybody. 3112 02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:02,680 Speaker 2: So you got the Tigers over that U. 3113 02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:06,000 Speaker 1: He was the head coach. 3114 02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:08,640 Speaker 2: But still defensively, he's got to think in his mind 3115 02:33:08,680 --> 02:33:11,000 Speaker 2: too that Joe Joe Burrow is gonna shred his defense. 3116 02:33:11,680 --> 02:33:15,880 Speaker 2: Ray mald Luga, Brian Cushion, Klay Matthews, Taylor Mays, the 3117 02:33:16,000 --> 02:33:16,560 Speaker 2: wild bunch. 3118 02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:21,160 Speaker 4: But look at them, but look at them. 3119 02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:24,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it right there, boys, make sure they owned 3120 02:33:24,600 --> 02:33:27,959 Speaker 1: the bus. Look at the NFL. They still can't stop 3121 02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:32,080 Speaker 1: those two. Yeah, think about it now. How about Justin 3122 02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:35,480 Speaker 1: Jefferson the two star like you mentioned, was the NFL 3123 02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:37,440 Speaker 1: offensive m v P. 3124 02:33:39,080 --> 02:33:39,800 Speaker 4: He's incredible. 3125 02:33:40,959 --> 02:33:43,320 Speaker 2: What was it like with Raymond Lougan, Brian Cushy. 3126 02:33:45,800 --> 02:33:50,360 Speaker 1: I was there. I was there with them when not 3127 02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:53,560 Speaker 1: in their heyday, Okay, but I know them. 3128 02:33:53,959 --> 02:33:56,080 Speaker 2: That's true for that's they're in their headad like. 3129 02:33:57,879 --> 02:33:59,800 Speaker 1: But we had it. We we had a guy named 3130 02:33:59,800 --> 02:34:04,560 Speaker 1: Little with the two Pools, pretty damn good, and we 3131 02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:07,400 Speaker 1: had some good defenses. We have really good defenses to peak. 3132 02:34:07,720 --> 02:34:10,200 Speaker 4: I love it. Is there anything that the boys in 3133 02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:13,840 Speaker 4: the back want to ask Jack about Tennessee? Any questions 3134 02:34:13,879 --> 02:34:14,120 Speaker 4: at all? 3135 02:34:14,280 --> 02:34:16,880 Speaker 2: Charm's got one coach. 3136 02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:19,800 Speaker 8: I'm an alumnus of Baylor. There's been a lot of 3137 02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:22,760 Speaker 8: talk about Dave Randa and his future at the school. Yeah, 3138 02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:25,840 Speaker 8: what are your thoughts on just Dave Randa? What he's 3139 02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:27,959 Speaker 8: going through with Baylor? Do you think he can turn 3140 02:34:28,000 --> 02:34:28,440 Speaker 8: it around? 3141 02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:28,920 Speaker 2: You know? 3142 02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:32,480 Speaker 1: First of all, I'm a big fan of Days because 3143 02:34:32,680 --> 02:34:35,120 Speaker 1: he was a great coach for me. You know, mean 3144 02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:37,879 Speaker 1: he gave a lot to Llo. Shoot, I do believe 3145 02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:41,680 Speaker 1: just like me, now, okay, no different. He's a better 3146 02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:44,760 Speaker 1: defensive mind than I am, a lot more cerebal than 3147 02:34:44,840 --> 02:34:46,960 Speaker 1: I am. If I doubt if he only bed a 3148 02:34:47,040 --> 02:34:53,880 Speaker 1: tennerals AC team, you know, but just like myself, I 3149 02:34:54,040 --> 02:34:57,520 Speaker 1: had to get great players and great coaches. I don't 3150 02:34:57,560 --> 02:35:02,039 Speaker 1: think he's hit that in mark yet on up overall basis. 3151 02:35:02,320 --> 02:35:04,840 Speaker 1: He might have had it in spots here and there. 3152 02:35:05,480 --> 02:35:07,640 Speaker 1: I think in order for Dave to be a great 3153 02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:11,040 Speaker 1: head coach, he has to be surrounded by greatest sisters 3154 02:35:11,360 --> 02:35:13,920 Speaker 1: and great players. What he can do now next year 3155 02:35:14,240 --> 02:35:16,320 Speaker 1: I surely hope so, because you're a great person. 3156 02:35:17,840 --> 02:35:20,240 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. What was it like for you in the 3157 02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:24,800 Speaker 2: like the fall at LSU going fifteen to zero and 3158 02:35:24,840 --> 02:35:27,400 Speaker 2: then kind of the dissension going down tough at LSU. 3159 02:35:27,600 --> 02:35:30,520 Speaker 1: It was tough. God, it was tough. It was tough. 3160 02:35:30,560 --> 02:35:35,040 Speaker 1: But look, you know, we hired both boll had the 3161 02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:38,280 Speaker 1: number one defenses in the world. It just didn't work. 3162 02:35:38,920 --> 02:35:42,080 Speaker 2: That was during that COVIDE and I knew too, like 3163 02:35:42,160 --> 02:35:44,440 Speaker 2: when he went back to LSU. Obviously he had a 3164 02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:47,160 Speaker 2: ton of success. Yeah, both in Nebraska, but even before that, 3165 02:35:47,240 --> 02:35:49,080 Speaker 2: when he was in the defensive coordinator for less miles 3166 02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:51,879 Speaker 2: at LSU, I thought, but just knowing it, Yeah, knowing 3167 02:35:51,959 --> 02:35:54,200 Speaker 2: that it was during that COVID year and we were 3168 02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:56,120 Speaker 2: training over at Vanderbilt at the time, like when we 3169 02:35:56,200 --> 02:35:58,480 Speaker 2: were playing for Tennessee, and the way the strength coach 3170 02:35:58,520 --> 02:36:00,160 Speaker 2: that we worked with talk about all the rules and 3171 02:36:00,200 --> 02:36:02,640 Speaker 2: guys not showing up X, Y and Z. I'm thinking, man, 3172 02:36:03,160 --> 02:36:06,480 Speaker 2: the even double brackets, the way the tendency oriented stuff 3173 02:36:06,520 --> 02:36:08,680 Speaker 2: that both uses, it's going to be very hard for 3174 02:36:08,840 --> 02:36:11,560 Speaker 2: guys to execute if they're not like learning in the 3175 02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:12,879 Speaker 2: system throughout the offseason. 3176 02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:16,960 Speaker 1: Good through it. Oh yeah, you know how complicated it is. 3177 02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:22,160 Speaker 1: But bow boy has very intelligent Now it just didn't 3178 02:36:22,240 --> 02:36:25,120 Speaker 1: get away, you know. Uh, Mike Leach started running crossing 3179 02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:27,680 Speaker 1: rouss and stuff like that. We were busting it just 3180 02:36:27,879 --> 02:36:30,680 Speaker 1: it just it was Bull's fault. Now, it just didn't 3181 02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:31,320 Speaker 1: work out right. 3182 02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:34,200 Speaker 2: You had to be so detailed in that scene because 3183 02:36:34,200 --> 02:36:36,280 Speaker 2: there's ways to beat it. But if guys knew kind 3184 02:36:36,320 --> 02:36:41,560 Speaker 2: of tendencies formationally condensed formations, bunches, guys like inverted alignments, 3185 02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:43,320 Speaker 2: like you had to kind of know everything going on 3186 02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:46,280 Speaker 2: for it to be successful. I'm curious too, what was 3187 02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:47,840 Speaker 2: it like on the sideline with Coach Bo because you 3188 02:36:47,879 --> 02:36:50,360 Speaker 2: talk about you talk about you being a hot head, 3189 02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:51,200 Speaker 2: like knowing Coach Bo. 3190 02:36:51,440 --> 02:36:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you something. As far as my 3191 02:36:54,040 --> 02:36:56,600 Speaker 1: relationship with Coach Polini, he let me be the head 3192 02:36:56,680 --> 02:36:59,840 Speaker 1: coach and he was good. I mean he was really good. Now, 3193 02:36:59,879 --> 02:37:01,760 Speaker 1: he blew up a couple of times, but he let 3194 02:37:01,800 --> 02:37:04,080 Speaker 1: me handle it. But he was not he was not 3195 02:37:05,800 --> 02:37:09,760 Speaker 1: abrasive or bad anyway. Yeah, he was actually pretty damn good. 3196 02:37:10,000 --> 02:37:12,360 Speaker 2: That's awesome here because the coach Bob would blow up 3197 02:37:12,360 --> 02:37:13,800 Speaker 2: at times and then the next day not even know 3198 02:37:13,879 --> 02:37:15,720 Speaker 2: what you're talking about, and you're just thinking, what do 3199 02:37:15,800 --> 02:37:18,879 Speaker 2: you just blackout in these moments? You don't remember, well, 3200 02:37:18,920 --> 02:37:20,400 Speaker 2: you don't remember what you were saying to me, You 3201 02:37:20,440 --> 02:37:23,000 Speaker 2: don't remember putting your hands on me, maybe like pat 3202 02:37:23,120 --> 02:37:25,199 Speaker 2: me on the head and laugh. And then I'm thinking. 3203 02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:27,959 Speaker 1: He did. 3204 02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:29,560 Speaker 2: He cared about his players, Yes, he did. 3205 02:37:29,840 --> 02:37:32,080 Speaker 4: What was your thought process when you were on your 3206 02:37:32,120 --> 02:37:34,880 Speaker 4: way out? And they announced Brian Kelly as a head 3207 02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:37,640 Speaker 4: coach at l s U Because to me, I think 3208 02:37:37,680 --> 02:37:39,600 Speaker 4: of L s U is obviously an incredible job to have, 3209 02:37:39,720 --> 02:37:42,680 Speaker 4: but it takes a unique personality to handle that school, 3210 02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:45,600 Speaker 4: that location, that state, and Brian Kelly didn't feel like 3211 02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:49,000 Speaker 4: the personally had to handle that were you? What was 3212 02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:49,879 Speaker 4: your thought process? 3213 02:37:50,120 --> 02:37:53,600 Speaker 1: First of all, you know, I knew we made a 3214 02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:57,960 Speaker 1: mutual decision. De we made a musical. We made a 3215 02:37:58,080 --> 02:38:03,600 Speaker 1: mutual decision. Yeah, I mean after the fourth or fifth 3216 02:38:03,640 --> 02:38:06,800 Speaker 1: game or something that and uh so I was good 3217 02:38:06,840 --> 02:38:08,800 Speaker 1: with it, but I wanted to coaches team to then 3218 02:38:09,360 --> 02:38:12,760 Speaker 1: and I made I'm not leaving this team and we didn't. 3219 02:38:12,800 --> 02:38:15,440 Speaker 1: And you know, we played pretty good, almost beat Alabama also, 3220 02:38:16,040 --> 02:38:17,600 Speaker 1: but at the end we beat Texas A and M 3221 02:38:17,680 --> 02:38:21,400 Speaker 1: and I was ready to go where there's enough and 3222 02:38:21,520 --> 02:38:23,200 Speaker 1: then they went through a little source right there. And 3223 02:38:23,280 --> 02:38:25,879 Speaker 1: when they named him he was a big time hire 3224 02:38:25,959 --> 02:38:30,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I wondered how well he 3225 02:38:30,720 --> 02:38:34,720 Speaker 1: would relate. Like you said, Louisa has a different place, man. 3226 02:38:34,760 --> 02:38:38,920 Speaker 1: People think different. Uh, players are raised different, people are 3227 02:38:39,000 --> 02:38:42,320 Speaker 1: raised different in the South. You gotta be a personable person. 3228 02:38:42,440 --> 02:38:44,960 Speaker 1: You gotta go in there and love him. It ain't 3229 02:38:45,040 --> 02:38:48,000 Speaker 1: so much about the ex's and the oles and again 3230 02:38:48,320 --> 02:38:51,320 Speaker 1: by getting them to play and you know, hey, taking 3231 02:38:51,400 --> 02:38:53,360 Speaker 1: care of him and make him sure, they understand that 3232 02:38:54,320 --> 02:38:56,560 Speaker 1: he didn't do that. Now what he didn't have to 3233 02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:58,480 Speaker 1: do it more today? Right, Well, if he did it, 3234 02:38:58,520 --> 02:39:01,000 Speaker 1: outn't know. But when he came out has said family 3235 02:39:01,160 --> 02:39:03,680 Speaker 1: and like that. It just it just it just wasn't 3236 02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:07,640 Speaker 1: a good thing. Yeah. Is he a great coach, Yes, he's. 3237 02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:08,000 Speaker 4: I mean he did it that note Dame for a 3238 02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:08,360 Speaker 4: long time. 3239 02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:10,280 Speaker 1: He was great, a lot of respectful. 3240 02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:14,600 Speaker 2: But it's a different I believe so. But yeah, yeah, 3241 02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:16,840 Speaker 2: since the name before that Notre Dame. Yeah, I was 3242 02:39:16,879 --> 02:39:18,960 Speaker 2: curious to how it would happen. Jackie got something. 3243 02:39:19,400 --> 02:39:22,400 Speaker 5: I'm just curious to know, what does a perfect day 3244 02:39:22,480 --> 02:39:25,119 Speaker 5: look like? For coach, O doesn't have to involve football. 3245 02:39:25,120 --> 02:39:26,119 Speaker 4: I would assume it would. 3246 02:39:26,240 --> 02:39:27,920 Speaker 5: But from when you wake up to go to bed, 3247 02:39:28,000 --> 02:39:29,800 Speaker 5: what is a perfect day for too? 3248 02:39:30,520 --> 02:39:30,680 Speaker 1: Just what? 3249 02:39:30,959 --> 02:39:31,000 Speaker 2: What? 3250 02:39:31,120 --> 02:39:32,320 Speaker 4: What is your perfect day? 3251 02:39:32,920 --> 02:39:33,960 Speaker 5: What is your perfect day? 3252 02:39:34,240 --> 02:39:37,840 Speaker 1: First of all, I married a beautiful woman that's twenty 3253 02:39:37,920 --> 02:39:41,920 Speaker 1: one years younger than me. Y'all saw a picture on 3254 02:39:42,000 --> 02:39:44,360 Speaker 1: it and that I got lucky. But I still can 3255 02:39:44,480 --> 02:39:48,000 Speaker 1: recruit that she is right now, Brandon Nicole, that's my girl. 3256 02:39:48,879 --> 02:39:51,800 Speaker 1: I love her to death. You see that rock on 3257 02:39:52,160 --> 02:39:55,360 Speaker 1: a handle. You know what I tell him? I said, 3258 02:39:55,400 --> 02:40:01,520 Speaker 1: maybe you're pretty, You're pretty expensive. She's the love of 3259 02:40:01,600 --> 02:40:05,120 Speaker 1: my life. Man. That girl had warmed my heart. She's 3260 02:40:05,400 --> 02:40:09,320 Speaker 1: wonderful and we spent some great years together. So what 3261 02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:11,640 Speaker 1: my day is now? I wake up in the morning 3262 02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:14,640 Speaker 1: at five Now she's still sleeping, and I look at 3263 02:40:14,680 --> 02:40:16,400 Speaker 1: that beautiful thing in the side of me and say, 3264 02:40:16,800 --> 02:40:18,520 Speaker 1: you're a lucky man. So I get up and I 3265 02:40:18,600 --> 02:40:22,680 Speaker 1: say my prayers. Now I'm involved in Alcoholics Anonymous. I 3266 02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:25,039 Speaker 1: have a little reading I do every day, and then 3267 02:40:25,440 --> 02:40:27,400 Speaker 1: at South Beach, I go to a meeting every day 3268 02:40:27,680 --> 02:40:30,840 Speaker 1: from seven to eight. Met some good friends there, and 3269 02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:32,720 Speaker 1: then I go to South beach. Now this is it is. 3270 02:40:33,280 --> 02:40:36,320 Speaker 1: You guys are like this. I've been doing some deadlifts. 3271 02:40:36,360 --> 02:40:39,039 Speaker 1: I go to Muscle Beach and I started doing some deadlifts. 3272 02:40:39,080 --> 02:40:42,640 Speaker 1: I get my legs back, deadlifts and squats. Now obviously 3273 02:40:43,160 --> 02:40:45,280 Speaker 1: there's some good sights there that can motivate, you know 3274 02:40:45,320 --> 02:40:48,280 Speaker 1: what I mean? And so I go work out. I 3275 02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:51,480 Speaker 1: go lift on. No Muscle Beach got my I just 3276 02:40:51,520 --> 02:40:54,400 Speaker 1: got my shorts on. Feed in the sand. Then after that, 3277 02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:57,680 Speaker 1: me and Brandy the cole go we walked this way, 3278 02:40:57,800 --> 02:41:00,120 Speaker 1: then we run and then we walked the step. So 3279 02:41:00,280 --> 02:41:02,680 Speaker 1: we do everything. We don't get back home until about 3280 02:41:02,680 --> 02:41:06,160 Speaker 1: three thirty. And then they would go to pool, do 3281 02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:08,440 Speaker 1: what we need to do, eat something, and get up 3282 02:41:08,480 --> 02:41:11,039 Speaker 1: the next day and do it again. That's a typical 3283 02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:12,280 Speaker 1: day of coach O. 3284 02:41:13,360 --> 02:41:17,800 Speaker 4: All right, well done, well didst work done right there? 3285 02:41:18,080 --> 02:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Now look here, look and you know what pisses me 3286 02:41:19,959 --> 02:41:22,440 Speaker 1: off about that? See I call that a job right. 3287 02:41:23,560 --> 02:41:26,360 Speaker 1: And people have passed me by, say great day for walking, 3288 02:41:26,440 --> 02:41:27,760 Speaker 1: and coach got them talking. 3289 02:41:27,840 --> 02:41:31,320 Speaker 2: Boy, you had to you had to check one. 3290 02:41:31,560 --> 02:41:35,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one old boy came up. If I 3291 02:41:35,959 --> 02:41:38,080 Speaker 4: could tell anything from this conversation, you you like a 3292 02:41:38,120 --> 02:41:39,600 Speaker 4: lot of schools. You do not fuck with Bama. 3293 02:41:39,720 --> 02:41:43,800 Speaker 1: Well here's the deal, Okay. When I was six years old, No, 3294 02:41:44,720 --> 02:41:50,200 Speaker 1: eight to ten, I met coach Charlie mcclindon. He came 3295 02:41:50,320 --> 02:41:52,840 Speaker 1: up to me. He goes, hello, he's the head coach 3296 02:41:52,840 --> 02:41:57,600 Speaker 1: Ilishoo Tiger. I saw the man on TV. Hello, young man, 3297 02:41:57,840 --> 02:42:01,080 Speaker 1: my name is Charles McClendon. I'm the head coach at 3298 02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:04,640 Speaker 1: the L s U Fighting Tigers. I thought I was 3299 02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:07,200 Speaker 1: talking to God. That's what I saw the man on TV. 3300 02:42:07,600 --> 02:42:10,200 Speaker 1: But the man was so nice to me, shook my hand. Now, 3301 02:42:10,240 --> 02:42:12,560 Speaker 1: we couldn't take a picture. Back then, nobody had pictures 3302 02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:15,120 Speaker 1: on the phone and we could afford the camera. That 3303 02:42:15,240 --> 02:42:17,960 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen. Was that was for the TV man 3304 02:42:18,040 --> 02:42:20,040 Speaker 1: at camera? You know. I mean, but he became my 3305 02:42:20,120 --> 02:42:24,480 Speaker 1: favorite coach. But I knew the power of being the 3306 02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:26,560 Speaker 1: head coach at l s U what it did for 3307 02:42:26,680 --> 02:42:30,120 Speaker 1: young boy. So ever since then, anybody asked me to 3308 02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:32,320 Speaker 1: take a picture, I'll take a picture. Yes, I want 3309 02:42:32,320 --> 02:42:34,560 Speaker 1: to walk this right? How you doing? Actually their name 3310 02:42:34,920 --> 02:42:38,959 Speaker 1: because it's not me, it's the position. Now. So when 3311 02:42:38,959 --> 02:42:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm jogging, you see my little job, right, it's not 3312 02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:45,520 Speaker 1: like it's warped speed. Why I can't stop right? And 3313 02:42:45,680 --> 02:42:49,680 Speaker 1: somebody they told you take a picture. Yeah, well that 3314 02:42:49,879 --> 02:42:54,080 Speaker 1: situation there. You know. The guy was a good guy. 3315 02:42:54,800 --> 02:42:58,280 Speaker 1: And then I started going away and he says those 3316 02:42:59,160 --> 02:43:01,520 Speaker 1: two words that are all like you know, so I 3317 02:43:01,640 --> 02:43:03,360 Speaker 1: called him like you said, checked them, you know what 3318 02:43:03,360 --> 02:43:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean. And all wanted to do is teacher respect. 3319 02:43:06,080 --> 02:43:07,960 Speaker 1: But man, I'm on my jog, I'll stop, I'm gonna 3320 02:43:07,959 --> 02:43:10,000 Speaker 1: take a picture with you. I'm running away. And you 3321 02:43:10,080 --> 02:43:13,600 Speaker 1: can say he was very apologetic. He was very good. 3322 02:43:13,959 --> 02:43:18,680 Speaker 1: Ninety nine people OFFI Hey, by the way, y'all see 3323 02:43:18,680 --> 02:43:21,440 Speaker 1: that picture. You boys, come five and when you're sixty four. 3324 02:43:28,560 --> 02:43:30,000 Speaker 4: I talked to him about being respectful. 3325 02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:35,680 Speaker 1: It was roll tied, be respectful. You know. He just said. 3326 02:43:37,360 --> 02:43:39,879 Speaker 4: He wasn't like, fuck you, coach. He's like, all right, coach, 3327 02:43:39,959 --> 02:43:40,320 Speaker 4: roll time. 3328 02:43:40,400 --> 02:43:41,800 Speaker 1: What the fuck now? 3329 02:43:43,320 --> 02:43:47,320 Speaker 2: A school spirit from arrival? Yeah, roll tight, no, no, let. 3330 02:43:47,240 --> 02:43:48,520 Speaker 4: Me teach you, the older guys. 3331 02:43:48,520 --> 02:43:49,440 Speaker 2: I was gonna grab your form. 3332 02:43:49,959 --> 02:43:53,560 Speaker 1: Let me teach you something, right. 3333 02:43:53,560 --> 02:43:56,360 Speaker 2: I didn't say funk you nothing, hey, roll tight no, no, no. 3334 02:43:57,760 --> 02:43:58,800 Speaker 1: I teach you about respect. 3335 02:43:59,600 --> 02:44:00,640 Speaker 4: That is hilarious. 3336 02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:03,440 Speaker 2: Should we ask in the bud like question, go ahead, coach, O. 3337 02:44:03,560 --> 02:44:05,520 Speaker 2: You know how everybody would do anything for an ice 3338 02:44:05,600 --> 02:44:08,400 Speaker 2: cold bud light? What is something that Coacho would do 3339 02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:09,040 Speaker 2: anything for? 3340 02:44:09,320 --> 02:44:14,120 Speaker 4: Crazy to ask? What the uh hey stuff? He's like, 3341 02:44:14,160 --> 02:44:15,080 Speaker 4: I'm in both alcohols. 3342 02:44:17,120 --> 02:44:19,760 Speaker 1: Anyone do anything for a butt light? However, what do 3343 02:44:19,840 --> 02:44:21,640 Speaker 1: you want? You want to do anything for a bud light? 3344 02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:24,200 Speaker 1: Or want to do any anything for anything? 3345 02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:25,039 Speaker 2: To do anything? 3346 02:44:25,080 --> 02:44:25,720 Speaker 4: You cannot say? 3347 02:44:25,760 --> 02:44:31,960 Speaker 1: Family? Okay, good, good, good, A big bowl chicken and sausage, 3348 02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:36,720 Speaker 1: gumbole with some file gumbole with it. And you see 3349 02:44:36,840 --> 02:44:40,119 Speaker 1: in Louisiana we take the potato salad and we put 3350 02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:43,800 Speaker 1: it into gumble. No, that won't fight a bear for. 3351 02:44:47,800 --> 02:44:49,640 Speaker 4: That's the best answer we've ever heard. 3352 02:44:51,760 --> 02:44:54,280 Speaker 1: The potato salad. Oh, you gotta go quickly, go man, 3353 02:44:54,520 --> 02:44:56,879 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you eat no se Okay. 3354 02:45:01,440 --> 02:45:03,040 Speaker 2: This has been incredble coach. 3355 02:45:03,120 --> 02:45:06,560 Speaker 4: We cannot see for real because we've been trying to 3356 02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:08,000 Speaker 4: get you on forever. How long has it been, clump 3357 02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:12,520 Speaker 4: A long time? Get you up here, hang out, talk 3358 02:45:12,760 --> 02:45:14,640 Speaker 4: some stories a little bit. We first started, you're kind 3359 02:45:14,680 --> 02:45:16,080 Speaker 4: of like, hey, yep, this this, and then once you 3360 02:45:16,200 --> 02:45:19,040 Speaker 4: just started ripping stories, man, it's like set back in 3361 02:45:19,120 --> 02:45:20,120 Speaker 4: and just enjoy this. 3362 02:45:20,400 --> 02:45:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, shut shut out of coach check. 3363 02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:24,760 Speaker 1: How we doing? 3364 02:45:24,879 --> 02:45:25,039 Speaker 4: Man? 3365 02:45:25,480 --> 02:45:27,840 Speaker 1: You my man, I love you to death. Boy. Every 3366 02:45:27,879 --> 02:45:29,280 Speaker 1: once in a while, I'll send him a little text 3367 02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:31,880 Speaker 1: now and COACHK got three techniquetta put a little bit 3368 02:45:31,920 --> 02:45:37,440 Speaker 1: better now him linebacker? Right? He is? 3369 02:45:37,640 --> 02:45:39,320 Speaker 2: He is. We were sitting in his office and for 3370 02:45:39,400 --> 02:45:41,560 Speaker 2: whatever reason, Coacho comes up. He's I'm gonna call him, 3371 02:45:41,600 --> 02:45:43,720 Speaker 2: let me call him, or you might have called him. 3372 02:45:43,720 --> 02:45:45,400 Speaker 2: I can't even remember. But you go on speaker and 3373 02:45:45,480 --> 02:45:47,480 Speaker 2: you're talking to what you're talking with me, Jack and 3374 02:45:47,560 --> 02:45:49,800 Speaker 2: JP can't even see her faces. And he's talking to 3375 02:45:49,879 --> 02:45:51,480 Speaker 2: us like he's been on the bus the entire time, 3376 02:45:51,560 --> 02:45:53,720 Speaker 2: like we've just been like he recruited us, like we 3377 02:45:53,879 --> 02:45:55,600 Speaker 2: know him and everything else. We're like, Coacho, you got 3378 02:45:55,680 --> 02:45:57,240 Speaker 2: to come on busting with the boys. I think you're 3379 02:45:57,320 --> 02:45:59,200 Speaker 2: riding in the car with your wife and she knew 3380 02:45:59,200 --> 02:46:01,160 Speaker 2: about busting with the Oh no, I got to come 3381 02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:02,039 Speaker 2: on now. Yeah. 3382 02:46:02,200 --> 02:46:04,880 Speaker 1: She lives in, she lives in. Yeah, she has a 3383 02:46:04,920 --> 02:46:06,680 Speaker 1: whole mount She knows all about you, guy. 3384 02:46:06,760 --> 02:46:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go, man. I love that Coacheck right there, 3385 02:46:09,840 --> 02:46:10,200 Speaker 2: Look at it. 3386 02:46:10,560 --> 02:46:11,800 Speaker 1: Look at that's home man. 3387 02:46:11,959 --> 02:46:15,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that fits that place. I mean he's going 3388 02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:21,640 Speaker 4: that's as close as it gets. Right, we're thinking of it, right, yeah, 3389 02:46:22,000 --> 02:46:25,359 Speaker 4: I mean co check, you got got you're getting canceled 3390 02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:26,440 Speaker 4: with this votel coming out. 3391 02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:29,000 Speaker 1: Well you can see why he and I got along 3392 02:46:31,720 --> 02:46:33,520 Speaker 1: that picture you know where you go. 3393 02:46:36,200 --> 02:46:38,360 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, we can't thank you enough. Man, Give a 3394 02:46:38,440 --> 02:46:39,240 Speaker 4: brother a plus coach on. 3395 02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:41,440 Speaker 1: How you got it? 3396 02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:45,160 Speaker 4: Man, Appreciate you guys. Subscribe rate five stars, big hugs, 3397 02:46:45,240 --> 02:46:46,240 Speaker 4: tiny kisses, Thank. 3398 02:46:46,120 --> 02:46:49,160 Speaker 11: You twenty one plus and present in select states. 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