1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Getting ready for the third and final phase of the offseason. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: we look ahead to phase three, when an offense can 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: line up against the defense. Yes, it looks like football. 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: What do we want to see? What do we hope 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to see? What players or position groups will we have 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: our eye on? Also, the late is from the spring 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: league meeting. And how does Danny feel about Denver in August? 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighty six, and it 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,319 Speaker 1: starts now. 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two? 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: What Heart? 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 18 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five pas it again, 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: so more hurry magic whow here's Craig. So, Danny, how 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: do you feel about spending a week in Denver in 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: the middle of August as opposed to a week in 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: Arizona in the middle of August? 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: Is there a right answer? Because Denver is gonna be. 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Alfo a practice. It's a good point. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 4: Oh, I guess I'd rather be in Arizona, be. 26 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Home in your own bed as opposed to a hotel bed. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: Yes, and the humidity in Denver. Thankfully it's not a 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: full week. 29 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? All right? Well, it was 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: announced earlier this week that the Arizona Cardinals preseason schedule 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: has been finalized, and it's part of that. The cardinals 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: one road trip in the preseason is a trip to 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: play the Denver Broncos on Saturday, August sixteenth, well, the 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: Thursday ahead of that game. A joint practice, just a 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: single joint practice, is what we are being told. So 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: last year it was two joint practices against the Colts 37 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: in Indie before the game on Saturday, which I think 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: was a benefit for both teams. Now it's shortened to 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: just one. But do you think it breaks up what 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: training camp becomes, and that is the daily grind. But 41 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: at least now you're going somewhere else, facing into different 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: color jersey. And we have seen and we have heard 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: from what Jag likes to say, the coaches get more 44 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: out of those joint practices or in this case, the 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: single practice than they will on game day. 46 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: I'm curious why it's become just one practice. If they 47 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 4: are as beneficial as they are, why that's just one 48 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: and that could be one coach, that could be both 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: coaches for whatever reason. Nobody really played in that game 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 4: against the Colts, the actual preseason game, because they had 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 4: two full joint practices. So if you only have one 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 4: against the Broncos, does that mean in the second preseason 53 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: game we're going to see starters? I think we will 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: surely see them week one when you're facing the Chiefs 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: and head coach Andy Reid is known for playing his 56 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 4: starters much more than many other coaches are in the preseason, 57 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: and when you look at the amount of different faces 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: specifically on this defense, makes you think, I think that 59 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: a lot of these players brought in could be starters. 60 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: Are you gonna want to see them out there in 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: some sort of game action? 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: I do hope. 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: It's always fun when you do a. 64 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 4: Joint practice, right, it's different, it's competitive. I'll just be 65 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 4: curious what I guess they get out of one practice 66 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 4: as opposed to too. 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: I do hope that there is a different a different 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: thought process, a different schedule when it comes to preseason games, 69 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: because I like you believe that again, how do you 70 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: get better playing football? Well, you play football, you don't 71 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: sit there watch on the sideline. So does that change 72 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: from the previous couple of seasons where typically you don't 73 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of the big names, even if it 74 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: is just for a series or two. I do think 75 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: it helps. Again, you want to condition your body to 76 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: get ready for the regular season, and how do you 77 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: do that. Well, you got to feel the hit, you 78 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: got to get tackled, you got to go out there 79 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: and go one hundred percent. And I do think more 80 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: and more teams would benefit with that mindset, and then 81 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: you're not getting a lot of sloppiness in the first 82 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: couple of games. 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: The argument against that is injuries, right, So it's pro 84 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: and con and I can see both sides, and that 85 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: will be something to keep an eye on as we 86 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: get closer to that later on training camp, as we 87 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: get closer to the preseason of is that something that 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: is tweeked, Because that's what we heard early in the 89 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 4: offseason as soon as the season ended, that head coach 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon and his staff after every year evaluate everything 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 4: under the umbrella, not just the play on the field 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: from players, also the coaches and the logistics and the 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: decisions that are made throughout their process from start to finish. 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 4: And we heard a lot about looking into what exactly 95 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 4: led to the downfall after the bye week when you 96 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: went two and five, right, So I would imagine it's 97 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: all encompassing, and does that start as early as preseason 98 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 4: and maybe you have players starters play more snaps than 99 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: the preseason, so that the comfortability of who you are 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: next to on the field, of the communication your body 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: even getting a few snaps, and the recovery process of 102 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 4: that is different. 103 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: I'm curious, and I do think it's beneficial, especially going 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: up against the Broncos, because if you're Kyler Murray, you're 105 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior, it's Zach Allen on the other side, 106 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 1: it's Patrick's or Tan on the other side, it's Vance 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: Joseph on the other side, your former defensive coordinator now 108 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: calling plays. So I do think again, and it is 109 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: a different defense than you typically see on an everyday 110 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: basis going against the Cardinals defense. So just some different 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: things to think about as you go into that week. 112 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: Might not see it on Saturday, could very well see 113 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: it on Thursday. 114 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: Sure, But I mean the argument of going against your 115 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: former defensive coordinator. Is how many players on this offense 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 4: were here when he was here. 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm just talking about what Vance likes to do scheme 118 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: wise and throw different things. Not No, it's not the 119 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: as we were talking during our schedule release show, the 120 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: revenge factor or the you know, none of that stuff. 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: Just again familiar face, but again a much much different 122 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: looking defensive coordinator and what Vance likes to do as 123 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: opposed what Nick Rawlis likes. 124 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the intention of working with the Colts 125 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 4: last year. That that's I would assume that is going 126 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: to be the thought process moving forward with Gannett as 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: the head coach. 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: Enjoy Denver, it will be I would I would think 129 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: a little bit cooler. You won't have to worry about 130 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: knock on wood any rain like you did last year 131 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. 132 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: I mean, we'll see probably hopefully you just said it. 133 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: So probably I'm not speaking anything into existence. I refuse 134 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: to do that here on Cardinals Cover two presented by 135 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Hundai Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. All right, so 136 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: that's that's training camp. Well, before we get to training camp, 137 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: there is mini camp, and then there is what is 138 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: going to be happening next week, and that is phase 139 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: three of the off season strength and conditioning program otherwise 140 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: known as Organized Team Activities OTAs. And now you can 141 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: actually have teams line up against one another, meaning offense 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: versus defense, eleven on eleven, seven on seven, nine on seven. 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: It's still not in full pads, it's still not quite 144 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: full speed, but at least what you're going to see 145 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: in the next two weeks and mini camp is a 146 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: little bit more of football, just still shorts T shirts, 147 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: but you can still utilize what you're learning in the classroom, 148 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: take it out of the football field, and actually, as 149 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: Buddhabaka likes to say, okay, do you know it or 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: do you know it what we're doing offensively and defensively. 151 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 4: From our standpoint, what we're going to be seeing is 152 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: what are the early thoughts of groupings, What are the 153 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: early alignments going to look like? What is the grouping 154 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: of your defensive lineman. That's not to say whoever we 155 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: see out there the first snap is who we're going 156 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: to see out there the first snap Week one in 157 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 4: New Orleans by any means, it's just getting an idea 158 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: of where is the starting point for this coaching staff 159 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: with the players that they have out there and where 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 4: they are aligned. And while you're not going to get 161 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: full true pressure, you might get a little bit more 162 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 4: in your quarterbacks face. It's not necessarily just the routes 163 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: versus air. You're gonna have at least somewhat of a 164 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: defense to go against, whether that's someone in the pocket, 165 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: that's you know, someone outside going up against a receiver. 166 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: So it's gonna get a little more difficult and that sense, 167 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: and that's what Baker means when he says, do you 168 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: know know it? It's one thing when you have nobody 169 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: defending you whatsoever of Okay, do you know your route? 170 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: Do you know your timing? 171 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: Do you know your footwork? Now, when you've got someone 172 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: in your face who's making it a little more difficult, 173 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: you really got to know it. 174 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: There's resistance and what they're doing right now here in 175 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: phase two there is no resistance. It's routes on air, 176 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: but at least you have someone no contact, but at 177 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: least you'll have someone in your way, so to speak, 178 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: whether offense or defense. So ahead of next week, I 179 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: thought that we'd preview what we hope to see, maybe 180 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: even hope to hear over the next two weeks leading 181 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: up to mini camp. Again, this is what we want 182 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: to see. There's no guarantee we will, and to be honest, 183 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what we'll discuss here we 184 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: might not really get answers to until training camp. And 185 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: keep this in mind, burg Gang OTAs voluntary. So I'll 186 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: all say this, there's been excellent participation through this entire 187 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: offseason strength and conditioning program. But even though we only 188 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: have maybe a day or two out there, you don't 189 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: see someone there on a Tuesday, doesn't mean they weren't 190 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: there Wednesday and Thursday. So that's again what OTAs are. 191 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: So as we break this up, we want to go 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: offense defense or is there some more certain player or 193 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: position group that maybe you have your eye on more 194 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: than another as we get ready for actually seeing both 195 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: sides of the of the team on on the football. 196 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 4: Field, defense one hundred percent, the offense looks exact same. 197 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: They're running it back. 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: And with how limited you're going to be, OTA's well, 199 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: yes you can still have resistance. I'm curious what exactly 200 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: you have your eye on for offense. 201 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: Offense For me is again whether we see this or not. 202 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: But again, some of the questions that I have is, 203 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: all right, what's the competition look like at gart what 204 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: are the guys, what's the who do we see at 205 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: right guard? If we do it all? But again, these 206 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: are the questions that I have going into this next 207 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: phase and even in mini camp. All right, who's lining 208 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: up over there? What does the competition look like? 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: I don't think there is competition right right now. I 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: think it is Isaiah Adams's position to lose. What player 211 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: have they brought in that would make you think differently? 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: At this point in the off season. 213 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: The only one who has experience, and it's limited experience 214 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: is Royce Newman. Now that's a it's not a sexy name, 215 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: and it's not someone that people know a lot about. 216 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: But he was brought here for a reason, so at least, yeah, 217 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: you're right, all right, let's pencil in Isaiah Adams. But 218 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would go as far as 219 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: to say it's his job to lose. I do think 220 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: you're going to see whether that's Royce. I'd even throw 221 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: in a John Gaines, Hayden Connor. How much can he 222 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: really learn right now and jump in and learn the 223 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: playbook and show that physicality and be a part of 224 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: the mix in the. 225 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: Most respectful way. I don't think it's fair to make 226 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 4: an assumption that a six round draft pick can come 227 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 4: in and make competition at one of your guard spots 228 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: right off the bat for the first practice of OTAs. 229 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair at all. I think, yes, 230 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 4: he's recovering, so it makes sense to not have Will Hernandez. 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: There's a reason they did not bring back Tristan Cologne. 232 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 4: I think they like what they saw in Adams and 233 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 4: he didn't even play a full year as a rookie. 234 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: You want to develop your younger players, and that is 235 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: what they're doing. And so the fact that they haven't 236 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 4: fully addressed specifically right guard, with the exception of really 237 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: adding Newman, tells me they like the projection that Adams 238 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: is on. They like the track he's on. So I 239 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: think that is his position to lose. Is their competition there, Yes, 240 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: is their competition for your six round pick to come 241 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: in and be your starting right or left guard week 242 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: one of OTA's No, that is just not realistic when 243 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 4: you're looking at the size and the experience with the 244 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: league and with this team, specifically that you are you 245 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: have in that room. 246 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's win or lose next week, but 247 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about as we start to think about that 248 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: position you're you're at. I'm not disagreeing to you with Isaiah. 249 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: If I'm going to do a pecking order, yeah, I 250 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: would go Isaiah Adams, Royce Newman, and again he's your guy. 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: I've kind of adopted him in as well. I'm very 252 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: curious what this team decides to do with John Gaines 253 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: and his versatility on the interior. Is it at center? 254 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 4: We haven't really seen him at guard much. I think 255 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 4: that's been clear that he's going to be your backup center. 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: The other item on offensive line is all right, Jonah Williams. 257 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Is he healthy? How healthy is he? Can you count 258 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: on him to be your right tackle or is it 259 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: going to be Calvin Beacham or someone else? Or is 260 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: that a position that you get closer to training camp 261 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: in preseason? All right, well, we might need to go 262 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: out and find someone because they're not one hundred percent 263 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: confident in one the health or the ability of those players. Again, 264 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: we were told Darren met with Monti Austin Fords in 265 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: the annual league meeting, and the question was asked about 266 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: Jonah and beach because they both ended or say, Jonah 267 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: and Paris both end of the season on IR and 268 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: Mani said, yeah, they we expect them ready for week one. 269 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Now does that mean next week? I have no idea, 270 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: But that's another area about Okay, keep an eye on 271 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: that right side of the offensive line. 272 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: Sure. I mean they brought in Jonah Williams for a 273 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: reason when they had Kelvin Beacham on the roster. So 274 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: if you're asking what the starting point is, they probably 275 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 4: feel more comfortable about Williams being your starting right tackle 276 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 4: than they do Beacham, who they feel very comfortable with 277 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: as your swing tackle. So if all things are even 278 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: and Williams is healthy and they feel like he can 279 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: be healthy again, not necessarily a spot I think is 280 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: true competition. I can understand why you're you know, you 281 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: want to find something on the offensive line, or you're 282 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 4: looking at depth or things like that. I just when 283 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: you're looking at offensive defense from a starting position, I 284 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 4: don't think there are a lot of spots up for 285 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 4: grabs for competition on the offensive side of the ball. 286 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 4: They kept the consistency they kept the pieces there from 287 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: last year for a reason. 288 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And the only new face Week one, twenty twenty 289 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: five versus twenty twenty four would be your right guard. 290 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: That would be the only change offensively, as we say, 291 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: running it back, that's the only difference last season to 292 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: this season, because everything else quarterback, running back, wide receiver, 293 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: tight end, offensive line outside of the right guard, it's 294 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: a mirror image of one and a Now within that 295 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: wide receiver room the other we stay on offense here 296 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: the wide receivers, though, is okay the pecking order behind Marvin, 297 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: behind Michael? Could someone push Michael Wilson a little bit? 298 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: Zay Jones? He's actually going to be here at the 299 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: start of the season. He wasn't last season. Is there 300 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: more of an expanded role for him? But when I 301 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: talk about wide receiver, it's and I mentioned this earlier, 302 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: when everyone talks about bringing in an outside guy or 303 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: a veteran, well, that veteran or that other wide receiver, 304 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: you're the fifth offensive weapon. 305 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: Probably won't be brought in to be the fifth offensive weapon. 306 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: And that's my argument for everyone that wants. 307 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 4: To bring in a veteran, bring in a veteran, you're 308 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: going to bring in a number two receiver. That's what 309 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: it is. You're not going to bring in a receiver 310 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: to replace Za Jones if Michael Wilson is still going 311 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 4: to be your number two, because what would that veteran 312 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: bring in that Jay Jones doesn't add to this roster again, 313 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 4: a player that they liked enough to bring back. If 314 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: you're going to bring in a veteran receiver to create 315 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: some competition opposite of Harrison to make the passing game 316 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 4: more formidable, which was inconsistent last season, they're not coming 317 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: in to be your third or fourth receiver. They're coming 318 00:15:58,280 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: in to be that number two. 319 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: And I say fifth option that's behind in no particular order, 320 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: that's behind Trey McBride, Marvin James, Connor, Kyler Murray. Now 321 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: could I count Kyler as an offensive weapon running the 322 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: football just as a defense making sure you keep him accountable? 323 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: And the fifth is okay, is that Michael Wilson? And 324 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: is there someone out there that's better than Michael Okay? 325 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: But within this offense, standy. You know, if you're going 326 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: to be on that football field as a skilled player, 327 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: you have to be able to block. And I don't 328 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: know if all those names that are out there still 329 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: on the market, and there's a reason why they're still 330 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: on the market. Are you willing to come in to 331 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: be a team guy? Maybe not get as many targets, 332 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: have to get your hands dirty a little bit blocking, 333 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, maybe get the occasional 334 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: target or not. 335 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: This staff absolutely prioritized as a receiver who can block. 336 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: I'm cure if they feel strongly enough with the weapons 337 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 4: and the offense as a whole, are you comfortable and 338 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 4: confident bringing in a receiver who you don't necessarily care 339 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 4: as much as a big blocker, because you know, even 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 4: if they go out there and that tells the defense, 341 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: hey it's a passing play. They're so good and they 342 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: are so consistent at winning their one zero one matchups, 343 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: it's not going to hinder you at all. I think 344 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: there are very few veteran receivers that that would apply to, 345 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: where you are so good as a receiver as a 346 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: pass catcher, we're gonna put you out there and you're 347 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 4: not going to be our name, our main blocking receiver. 348 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: We will up your blocking right, but you're not gonna 349 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: be our main blocking receiver like they've been using with 350 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: Michael Wilson. Again, that's a few, that's a short list 351 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: of veteran receivers that I think that would apply to 352 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 4: where blocking is not so much one of the top 353 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: skill sets. So I understand, and it's probably going to 354 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: be someone more along what you were saying of that 355 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: full package, not someone who just has a speed, just 356 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 4: has the hands. It is a peculiar situation that they 357 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: are in, given what we heard from so many players 358 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 4: and coaches last year about needing to be better and 359 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: then not making any changes in that room in the 360 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: offseason thus. 361 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Far, internal changes or internal improvement, because I think we're 362 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: all in agreement this team, this offense is run first, 363 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: and how do you get better as an offense? It's 364 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: the downfield passing game. Can you find some more chunk 365 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: throws twenty plus yards? Thirty plus yards? And is that 366 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: receiver on the roster is that Michael Wilson, Is that 367 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: Jay Jones Xavier Weaver who we saw late in the 368 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: season that connection quite wasn't there, but not a lot 369 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: of reps between Kyler and Zay and then the newcomer 370 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: and all of this is Simmy Feyjoko, who has good size, 371 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: six four to two eighteen, a special teams guy. He 372 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: did give him some decent money to leave the Chargers. 373 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: What's his catch ability, his speed to where all of 374 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: a sudden it's a different wrinkle, if you will, because 375 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: I do think that's what's missing from this offense is 376 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: where are those chunk throws? James connerd Trey Benson. They're 377 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: going to take care of the chunk runs Kyler two. 378 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: But where are those chunk throws coming from? Is it 379 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: just simply Marvin going into year two and don't forget 380 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: about Trey and his ability to run after the catch? Yeah, 381 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: it could be just that easy too. 382 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 4: Yes, it is needing more consistency from your number one receiver. 383 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 4: It is needing a big step up from year two 384 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 4: to year three for Wilson and continuing to rely on 385 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: arguably the best tight end in the league. I just 386 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: it's too soon for me to, I think, make a 387 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: commitment on what that new wrinkle could be, because what 388 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 4: is Semi Fajoco giving you that Greg georche doesn't. That's 389 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 4: been talked about for years as a wrinkle in this 390 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: offense that could give you an advantage. I think there 391 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 4: are questions that it's going to take some time to 392 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: still be answered in that room internally. 393 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: All right, So that's offense defense, which I think again 394 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: that's been where the most change was from last year. OTAs, 395 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: what do we see? What do we want to notice? 396 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: What do we want to hear? Again voluntary non contact, 397 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: So it's you're not gonna be able to know, all right, 398 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: how does someone rush the past or how does someone 399 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: beat someone off the line of scrimmage? Now you're not 400 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: going to see any of that, But to your point, 401 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: as far as all right, what's the initial groupings? Who 402 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: does this coaching staff believe are your first three or 403 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: four defensive lineman? What's the outside linebacker room look like? 404 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: What this cornerback look like? How do you how are 405 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: you lining up? And if you're not privy to seeing 406 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: eleven on eleven, pay attention to the drills because a 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: year ago everyone wondered, all right, how are you going 408 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: to line up? Well, typically your starters are at the 409 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: front of the line, and then you can kind of 410 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: make guesses off of that and make notices or little 411 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: details and all of a sudden, right, what I say 412 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: I saw in May and June, does that show up 413 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: again when we get to training camp in July. 414 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: It's voluntary, So just because someone's not out there doesn't 415 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: mean that something is wrong per se quote unquote, or 416 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: there's an injury. But with the people who are out there, 417 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 4: I want to see how involved can you be someone 418 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 4: like Darius Robinson defensive lineman who played the final six 419 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: games of last season that calf. Are you able to 420 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 4: be fully active to the point that you can't be 421 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 4: for OTAs. I want to see where Dalvin Tomlinson and 422 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: Kalaeis Campbell line up on that defensive line. Where are 423 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: they thinking of placing Walter Nolan right? Where is he 424 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 4: going to be in this rotation? And also Justin Jones 425 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 4: and Malal Nichols, who played in combined nine games last 426 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: season after being brought in in last year's wave of 427 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 4: free agency. Are they out there and how active are 428 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: they able to be? If they're out there, it's mostly 429 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: the groupings where people are lined up and physically, what 430 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 4: are you able to do. It'll be our first chance 431 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 4: to really see the Will Johnson move because rookie minicamp, 432 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: all we were out there for media was stretching. That 433 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: was truly it was seeing stretching from afar on the 434 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: far field, so this will be a better look at 435 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,479 Speaker 4: how he is moving. Those are what you're looking for. 436 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: It's not gonna be anything sexy or surprising, right, it's 437 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: just those little things of Okay, I'm going to add 438 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: up all these pieces to get an idea of what 439 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: the bigger picture is. Something else though, when you're seeing 440 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 4: all of this, if not everybody is out there, that's 441 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: going to make things look different, specifically in the trenches. 442 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 4: If you don't have Justin Jones, Blon Nichols, Kalaeius Campbell 443 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: for whatever reason, you can't get over your skis. If 444 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: you've got Darius Robinson and Walternle in the third out, 445 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 4: there is your quote unquote starters, because at some point 446 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: you need bodies, right, So you have to take everything 447 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 4: you see with somewhat of a grain of salt. 448 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you see is in May is not necessarily 449 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: what you'll see week one in September. You brought up Darius, 450 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: and I think that's a great first name to bring up, 451 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: because he certainly did even in OTAs and Mini camp 452 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: year ago. Look the part coming out of Missouri certainly 453 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: filled out a uniform and then in training camp dominated. 454 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: He looked very, very good. Now we're not gonna see 455 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: him full speed going up against an offensive lineman in OTAs. 456 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: But to your point, all right, how is he moving? 457 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: Is he beyond the calf injury? Does he trust the injury? 458 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Does he trust the calf to go be a little 459 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: explosive odd of his stance or is there some hesitation 460 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: still here? Early in the offseason, you. 461 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 4: Sparked something of me. A name I want to see 462 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 4: at OTAs. Cornerback Elijah Jones didn't play a single snap 463 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: as a rookie, practiced a handful of times dealing with 464 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: an injury. That's a name I would love to see 465 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: out there because we haven't seen him. It's almost out 466 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: of side, out of mind when we're talking about the 467 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: competition in that cornerbacks room. 468 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: Those are from last year's draft class. Those might be 469 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: the two names because we got a glimpse of Darius. 470 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: We didn't get a glimpse from Elijah Jones. He practiced 471 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: what two, three, maybe four times, and then all of 472 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, that foot and heel just weren't able to 473 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: keep him on the football field. But you invested a 474 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: third round pick on a pretty sizable cornerback. He has 475 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: all the measurables. We've had limited interaction with him, he 476 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: certainly seems like he knows what he's doing, has a 477 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: good head on his shoulders. And again, the affinity for 478 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: defensive backs for this front office, at least in the draft. 479 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: I believe it's nine defensive backs out of the twenty 480 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: eight draft picks that Monty ostin Ford has made in 481 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: his three years now as GM. So you are selected 482 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 1: for a reason on Day two. This is not some 483 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: sixth seventh round guy. This was a third round pick. 484 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: But now all of a sudden, Max Melton year two, 485 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: well Johnson a second round pick. Can't forget about Starling 486 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: Thomas Denzel Burke another guy that was selected in the draft. 487 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you have the veteran and 488 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: Sean Murphy Bunting still out there as well. And how 489 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: do you figure out who are your three four guys? 490 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: And again I do not include Garrett Williams in this 491 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: conversation at all. I think I brought this up to 492 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: you once before. He's a slot corner, He's going to 493 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: be on the field. He is not part of the 494 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: cornerback discussion at all because he knows his role and 495 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: he is going to be on the football field. I 496 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: just don't know who's going to be outside of him 497 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: or on the other side playing cornerback. 498 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: Great question, Well Williams can play outside he hasn't, and 499 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: considering how good he was and Pro Football Focus had 500 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 4: him ranked as one of the top cornerbacks last year, 501 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 4: I can't imagine them vastly changing his role coming off 502 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: the year year and a half. Really, that second half 503 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 4: is rookie year where he was able to play that 504 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: he is from the rookies as a whole. Confidence, that's 505 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: what you're looking for. A name like linebacker Cody Simon 506 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: stands out. That's a position room where there is opportunity 507 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 4: for him to come in and make an impact. There's 508 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: an opportunity if he can handle it, to wear the 509 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: green dot. And you need a lot of confidence. You 510 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 4: need confidence in yourself and your ability to know that 511 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 4: playbook inside and out based on what is being called. 512 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 4: You need confidence and being able to tell your teammates, 513 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: including nine year veteran Buddha Baker, where to go and 514 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: make sure that he is in the right spot and 515 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 4: if he's not, you can tell him where to go. 516 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: And to do that in a clear and concise way 517 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: while catching your breath and lining up and making a play. Again, 518 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 4: it's early, we're not going to see a lot but 519 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 4: confidence as a. 520 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: Rookie, how do you carry yourself amongst your teammates and 521 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: some of those older teammates, if you're coming in and 522 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: as a Cody Simon or a Will Johnson, And because 523 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: if you're going to be on that football field, you 524 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: have confidence in your own ability, but do others around 525 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: you have confidence in you? 526 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 4: And if you get beat, can you turn the page 527 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: quickly and make a play on the next opportunity? 528 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: And whether or not we're able to hear it, if 529 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: you're Cody Simon or Kem Davis Gaither or Michael Walker, 530 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: if you're one of those inside linebackers, are you showing 531 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: command in the huddle or command of the defense and 532 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: getting everyone where they're supposed to be? Again, from our perspective, 533 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: for our vantage point watching these practices, we might not 534 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: be able to hear that, but certainly your body language, 535 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: how you emotion how do you get everyone in place? 536 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Are you directing traffic much like a quarterback with the 537 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: signals and everything? Can Cody Simon do that out of 538 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: the gate or is it someone else brand new? 539 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 4: Maybe Paul CALVISI got answers to our questions when he 540 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: had Cody Simon on the Big Red Rage this week, 541 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 4: So you can tune in Thursday. 542 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: Good tease ahead. 543 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: Thank you. 544 00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: By the way, the name that we have not men 545 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: mentioned here defensively probably the name that not that we 546 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: overlooked the big ticket item in free agency, Josh. 547 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking who on earthway? 548 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: Because again, this happened so long ago, back in March, 549 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: the middle of March. We've heard from Josh once and 550 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, as you get further and further 551 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: away from that sign, you kind of forget a little 552 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: bit about who was brought in because you focus on 553 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: the most recent transactions. But nothing against Josh how much? 554 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: And again you're not going to see a whole lot, 555 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: But how does he look on the football field. 556 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 4: He can still win reps, he can still find his 557 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: way into the backfield pass an offensive lineman, and I 558 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: am excited to see those competitions. 559 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: Just completely forgot about it, you truly. 560 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: And now I've got this huge smile. You're right, like, 561 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I wish we were already past Ota, 562 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 4: so I could see him really put the pads. 563 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: On a move. 564 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: And that's again that's the aspects of this defense. 565 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: How do we go this far without naming him? 566 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: My goodness, apologies, I will put BJ ahead of Josh 567 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: Sweat just because we know what Josh what is capable 568 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: of doing. We've seen it. We don't quite know what 569 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: BJ is capable of doing. We think we do. We 570 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: have seen again training camp a year ago. He looked very, 571 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: very good until he went down with that ACL injury, 572 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: and then you lose sight and you lose memory of 573 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 1: those guys. They're gone and almost forgotten. Anytime you're on IR, 574 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're a part of the team. 575 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I would put BJ Jali up there high 576 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: on the list of players I would like to see 577 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: on that football field. 578 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 4: Gone but not forgotten. Craig, it's been almost a year 579 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 4: since we have seen Ojalaris. This is really going to 580 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: be your two for him. Even now it's year three, 581 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 4: year two, he's got a new position coach, so I 582 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 4: am very excited to see him out on the football 583 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 4: field again. How active can he be? Where is he 584 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 4: at in his recovery? Process from that knee injury and 585 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: what are the steps that are going to be taken 586 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: before training camp starts, because that's the goal of when 587 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 4: you would like to see Ojelari be out there and 588 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 4: be one hundred percent a year off and you never 589 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 4: really know, right, every injury, every recovery is different. Okay, Yeah, 590 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 4: So if we're if we're going back and we're looking 591 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: at top names, we want to see how active they 592 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: can be in OTA's to the point that they can be. 593 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: Defensive lineman Darius Robinson, it's like linebacker b Jji, cornerback 594 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: Elijah Jones. Those have got to be some of your 595 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: top three. 596 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: The faces that we didn't see enough from last year. 597 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: And then let's see right justin Jones, Blond Nichols on 598 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: that D lane. Are you out there at all? 599 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: How much are you capable of doing? Again, this is 600 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: all voluntary, So as Danny mentioned, I'll reiterate, if you're 601 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: seeing them on Tuesday or you don't see them on Tuesday, 602 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're not here Wednesday Thursday. And that's just 603 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: how this works until you get to mandatory mini camp. 604 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: But you look at the names that were brought in 605 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: versus the names that we didn't see a whole heck 606 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: of a lot of. I mean, it's a hefty list 607 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: as far as players who were brought in in free 608 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: agency a year ago that you were counting on and 609 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: just didn't get on the football field enough, and Jones 610 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: and Nichols and all of a sudden, now you got Dallan, Tomlinson, 611 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: Kalas Campbell, Walter Nolan's like, okay, I mean it's it's 612 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: it's a stacked room. At least it looks to be 613 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: a stacked room on paper. 614 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: Careful, crag, you're making me excited for OTAs. 615 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: Will I will? You know what? I can't remind you 616 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: about it next? 617 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: I know you're on. 618 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a programming note. I mean, Cardinals Cover two 619 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: will continue despite my absence, because that's what it is. No, 620 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: there's no beat team. There's enough people here to kind 621 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: of handle things while I'm gone for a week or so. 622 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: We will do our best. 623 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: One of the items here, want me to FaceTime you 624 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 4: in during practice for OTAs. You know what, why don't 625 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: you just keep an eye on Paul's Twitter and look 626 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: at the video In the video pol he's gonna be posting, but. 627 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: Have you noticed, though, quick right hand turn. Here there 628 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: is a new phone and the video quality is a 629 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: lot better. I think Paul has turned the corner here 630 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: on his. 631 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: He doesn't have an Android anymore. 632 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe. 633 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: So what the son of a TEXTI if it's blue 634 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 4: or green? 635 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh? Still an android? Our associate producer Cody Finiser says, 636 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: still an android. But I believe it's an I believe 637 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: it's an upgraded phone because the video quality is better. 638 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: If I ask him, he's going to be offended. 639 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: His screen is no longer cracked. How about that? So 640 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: you did get a new phone. I just don't know 641 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: what kind of. 642 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll keep your keep your eye out for Paul's 643 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 4: videos while you're gone for OTAs. 644 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: Last, the last item here the spring league Spring League 645 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: meeting in Minnesota. The owners have met and by the way, 646 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw, but a tip of 647 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: the cap to the Philadelphia Eagles social media team because 648 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: they are loving the announcement. On Wednesday, the post on 649 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: social media was push on. 650 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: And I believe they posted a long video of all 651 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: their tush pushes as well. 652 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Yes, the toush push lives on the proposal to ban 653 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: the move. Actually, I noticed that the Packers who had 654 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: proposed it re erote it or added some language the 655 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: day before about Okay, it's not just the toush push, 656 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: it's assisting the runner. Wherever you're on the field. You 657 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: can't push, you can't pull. Trey McBride scoring that touchdown 658 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: from ten yards out when he was pushed into the 659 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: end zone, that would be not allowed, but the vote failed. 660 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: Needed twenty four votes, got twenty two, so you'll still 661 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: see Jalen Hurts getting pushed for that one yard near 662 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: a first down or near the goal line. And again, 663 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: I'm okay with this because it certainly seemed like you 664 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: are singling out one team because the thirty one other 665 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: teams just couldn't figure out how to stop it. Not 666 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: that you can't do it yourself, but hey, we can't 667 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: stop it, so we're just going to ban it. And no, 668 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: you want to ban the assisting of a runner, I'm 669 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: okay with that, but not one particular. 670 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 4: Move or better start warming up. 671 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: I think you'll see it. Jacoby Brissett. 672 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 4: Maybe that's the first question we asked when we had 673 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 4: a chance to talk to the backup QB uncomfortable are 674 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 4: you on. 675 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: The push pushed? That's that's that might be the line 676 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: of that might be the line of the off season. 677 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, the touch push will remain. The on side 678 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: kick has been tweaked a little bit. Now trailing teams 679 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: can declare anytime, not just in the fourth quarter, which 680 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 1: I think benefit. I still don't like the having to 681 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: declare because you line up as a normal kickoff. But 682 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: I get it. 683 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: You're not waiting until the first half. 684 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: You're not waiting until the fourth quarter. You could do 685 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: it in the second quarter if you wanted to. But 686 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: the whole idea of declaring it's the on site kick 687 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: is supposed to be a surprise. 688 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the element of it. 689 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: But hey, Danny, here it comes. 690 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I'll be ready. 691 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: It just doesn't do it for me. 692 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 4: I wait to talk to a Special Teams cordinator Jeff Rogers. 693 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: The proposed to resee the playoffs. That was pulled before 694 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: a vote. So the Lions proposal to recede after the 695 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: first round, Oh no, just receie. Just you know, you 696 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: win the division, you get a playoff spot. You just 697 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: don't guarantee the host a playoff. 698 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Lions wanted to be overall records, right, which 699 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 4: makes sense because the NFC North had an incredible season 700 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: last year. 701 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: Winning the division though, still should matter for reed. 702 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 4: Agreed, that's part of it. Like you're in a competitive division, 703 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 4: like that is just what it is. That's part of 704 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 4: the fun. That's also how you get better. I mean, 705 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: it's the same right with like a weather game, right, 706 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: like advantage your disadvantage. I just I'm right there with you. 707 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 4: I like the fact that if you win the division, 708 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 4: it stands for something. 709 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: It means, you know, if I understand, maybe if you 710 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: want to say, all right, win the division, you're in 711 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: the postseason, but you don't get a playoff game if 712 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: you have a worse record than someone ahead of you. 713 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: That I can sort of understand. But winning a division 714 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: unless you're going to change how you schedule your seventeen 715 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: games because you play six within the division. And I'm 716 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: sorry if my division is harder than yours, or hey, 717 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: look we went six and zho because our three other 718 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: teams they're not very good this season. But that's just 719 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is, and it's it's unfortunate, 720 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: but sorry. 721 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. 722 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: So, by the way, Hard Knocks. Did you see this? 723 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,760 Speaker 4: I did the Buffalo bills for priests for Trading Camp 724 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 4: and then the NFC. 725 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: East for in season Hard Knocks, which but I don't think. 726 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 4: That's all year, right, I mean they start showing the 727 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 4: episodes what November. 728 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. But at some point now I 729 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: have to wait and see where Week nine falls into 730 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: this filming, because the Cardinals play at the Cowboys. 731 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 3: And I mean, I'll be up. 732 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 4: I'll be curious to see how much our game makes 733 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: it in with three other teams and all the different storylines, 734 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 4: including the defending Super Bowl champions and new head coach 735 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: in Dallas and the excitement around Jane Daniels and the. 736 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 3: Question marks in New York. There's a chance. 737 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll wait and see. Just yeah, I guess all 738 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,719 Speaker 1: just depends on to your point, get the Super Bowl 739 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: champions and then okay, how how good are the other 740 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: teams in the division or by that Monday night game 741 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys three and five? Don't ask me four, four, 742 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: two and six. 743 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: If you ask them, ain't no, no, it's there. It's 744 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 4: their year, Craig. Is that what they always say? 745 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? I believe they always say that around October, though 746 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: fair look ahead to next year. We look ahead to 747 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: a little vacation here. But the seat will not be 748 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: cold while I'm away. It's either of you, Paul, Zach, Darren, whomever, 749 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: but Cardinals Cover two will live on. 750 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 3: As they say, We're going to do our best. 751 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 4: Don't feel like you need to listen in enjoy your vacation. 752 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: I know you are going to enjoy your vacation. 753 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that very much. Will you miss me? 754 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 4: Sure? 755 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: Okay, make sure you clip that. On that note, we'll 756 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 1: put a lid on This edition of Cardinals Cover two 757 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,240 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, 758 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Joe mom Andre our 759 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: associate producer Coddy Fincher for Danny Surrek, I'm Craig Real Lou. 760 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.