1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: This is all most Famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, you are listening to Beyond the Bachelor. This 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: is your host, Susie Evans, and today we have a 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: really exciting guest. Today we have on Chris Lane. He 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 2: performed for her on season twenty one of The Bachelor. 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: It was Nick File's season, and today we are going 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: to chat all things music, career, Bachelor. 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: And even a little bit of a hot topic. 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: He posted a picture not too long ago including his 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: wife Lauren and Ben Higgins at the time they were engaged, 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: and it kind of ruffled some feathers in Bachelor nations. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: So we're going to hop right in. 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: You performed for her on season twenty one of The Bachelor. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: For Nick File, what was it like to bring your 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: music into reality TV? And did that environment provide new 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: community and new listeners for you? Uh? 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was quite some time ago. I wonder 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: what season he was a part of, because that's been 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: at least what six seven years ago? Maybe mm hmm. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: It was season twenty one, and I think they're on 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: I want to see they're on season twenty eight or 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: twenty nine. I always forget, but it's been a minute, 23 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: been a hot minute. 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: So that was the second song ever that I had 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: out on the radio, so it's still very young in 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: my career. I felt like in the moment, it was 27 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: a really good moment for me. I mean, any TV time, 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: I feel like always helps. And I remember the day 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: after that aired, the song went crazy on iTunes. That 30 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: was That's how long ago it's been. That's when people 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: actually got bought songs on. 32 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 3: iTunes, right, that is wild. 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it really helped out a lot just getting 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: that exposure. I think it went a lot different than 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I was expecting, just because I haven't done a whole 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: lot in TV up to that point outside of like 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: playing on Jimmy Fallon or somewhere like that. It was 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: it was like one of the only other TV performances 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: I had done, so kind of getting exposed to that audience. 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned, just from my wife stuff 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: that the Bachelor Nation is a real thing. And yeah, 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: it turned out being to be a great opportunity for me, 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: and especially early in my career like that. 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 3: That's so awesome. 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you kind of popped off right before performing 46 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: on the show. 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: I feel like from what I understand. 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: It was like the year before you kind of dropped 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: your your I don't know if it was your first single, 50 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: but it was like your first single that was really 51 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 2: really took off, right. 52 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a song called Fix, which fix and for her, 53 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: both of those songs were on my first album. Fixed 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: was my first number one on the radio, and then 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: for her it was kind of that second song we 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: had released out there. And yeah, man, it's crazy to 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: think back that far, but those were some good times. Yeah, 58 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: good things, exciting times, especially you know again in that 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: opportunity felt like a really great opportunity at the time, 60 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: and it played out great. 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: That's so awesome. Did you have any behind the scenes 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: insight that you feel like you could share with the viewers? 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: Like I feel like people always want to know I 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: was on the show a few years ago, and people 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: are always like, is it real? Is it scripted? And 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: obviously if you've been on set, you know it's not scripted, 67 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: certainly produced, But do you have any behind the scenes 68 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 2: ta that you can share with people? 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: You know what? Remembering back to that night, I think 70 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: from my perspective, because I didn't know how it worked, 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: it was a little different than I was expecting in 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: the sense of, I guess they needed to make sure 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: that they got all the right shots, so we had 74 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to redo it several different times, which was kind of 75 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: funny in the moment. You know, Luckily I got to 76 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: play in front of a crowd full of people, so 77 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I didn't just play one song, which you know, it 78 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: kind of comes off that way if you watch it 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: on TV, it's like I'm there waiting just to play 80 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: one song for them as they walk in. It was 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: completely different than that. I played a whole concert to 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: a crowd full of people, and then Nick and I 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: believe he was on a date with the girl and 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: yo at Tom they walk in. Obviously everybody's screaming. They 85 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: come down, they do they dance to the song in 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: front of everybody up on a platform, which I honestly, 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: I was already like I had a smile on my 88 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: face while they're doing that, because it kind of felt, 89 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure for them, probably a little awkward, yep in 90 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the moment. But then after the song they stop and 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: they're like, all right, we need to redo it. So 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: they take everybody back out and like bring them back in, 93 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: and then everybody's got to like scream for him again, 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: and I just I was expecting it to go that way, 95 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do 96 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: to make sure you get the right shots on TV. Right. 97 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: That's so true. 98 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 2: That reminds me when I was on the show They 99 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: I had a performance like that and we had to 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: do it like three or four times, and I felt 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: every time I got more embarrassed because I was like, 102 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: it was so special the first time, and I don't 103 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: want to come off it's insincere and walk back in 104 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: and be like, oh, I've already seen all this, so 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: you like have to like kind of act. 106 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: A little bit. But I'm like, I'm like, can. 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: You use the first take? Because that was like real? 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: But it's kind of uncomfortable. But it's nice that you're 109 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: just getting to do a real performance, not have to 110 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: recreate the same song over and over again. That would 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: have been wild. 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being in you all shoes in that moment. 113 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would. I don't have the personality 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: to I wouldn't be good at faking it, I guess, 115 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. 116 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm curious, So you have obviously a big 117 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: crossover with Bachelor Nation having performed on it. Obviously being 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: married to Lauren. Do you guys ever watched the show 119 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: together anymore? 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it took quite some time. Even when we first 121 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: started dating, we never watched it. And and a lot 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of that in part because you know, I'm spending two 123 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: hundred and some days out on the road a year, 124 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: and and uh, we just didn't watch a lot of TV. 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: Like when we were at home, we'd try to go 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: to dinner somewhere and spend time together. And it wasn't 127 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: always watching TV, you know. But I would say over 128 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, we've definitely caught uh probably 129 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the last two or three seasons. And then I think 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: this past year we watched is it Bachelor in Paradise? 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: Is that what they call it? M Yeah, I mean 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I have to say, I'm I'm always uh thoroughly entertained 133 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: in the best way. It's it's fun to watch, yeah, 134 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: from week week, So even if we're not home on 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: a Monday night, but we'll usually record it and find 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: time to either catch up on it sometime that week 137 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: or maybe I'm at home on on Monday the following 138 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: week and We try to catch up to it, but 139 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, with having two kids under too, it's hard 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: to watch any TV. And by the time we get 141 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: them down at night, we're like, oh my gosh, I 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: need a mental break and to get some sleep. 143 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 144 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine. I have a niece and 145 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: nephew that are around that same age. I'm curious, so, 146 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: most of your career you probably probably were writing love 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: songs or heartbreak songs. Have your kids inspired any music 148 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 2: that you have either put out or that you're gonna 149 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: put out soon. 150 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 151 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: I wrote a song a couple of months before Dutton 152 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: was born, our first called any even met you yet. 153 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: It was just all those emotions I was going through, 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: about to be a dad for the first time, and 155 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I wrote that song for him. I feel bad for 156 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Baker being the second born. I feel like I need 157 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: to write one for him. 158 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to. I'm sure more will come. 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: I can recycle that one for him. 160 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 161 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, my kids definitely inspire me. That was one 162 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: song in particular, and I have another one that I 163 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: just wrote and I put out on my Instagram not 164 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: long ago, maybe last week at some point that I 165 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: got some incredible feedback on one call, two by fours and 166 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: four by six is, which is, uh, it's just a 167 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: demo right now. I would have to record it, but 168 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I wanted everybody to get a little snippid of it 169 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: and to hear it and give me their feedback. And 170 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I got great enough feedback that I 171 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: plan on recording it. But it's kind of inspired just 172 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: by you know, I wrote Big Plans for Lauren, and 173 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of just Big Plans two point zero but 174 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: like where life is right now. So I feel like 175 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Lauren and the Boys definitely inspired that one as well. 176 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: That's cool. 177 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: That gave me chills because I actually wanted to ask 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: about big Big Plans. 179 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: Obviously you played that I your proposal? Is that right 180 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 3: to Lauren? Okay? So how I mean? 181 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: I am not a songwriter, so I feel like I 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: don't even have the context to ask the question. 183 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: But I'm like, how does it? How do you write 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: a song like that? Like? How does it come to you? 185 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 2: Do you sit down or were you inspired by a 186 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: certain moment with Lauren that made you just like did 187 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: it just flow out of you? 188 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: How did it work? 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? So when I sat down to write this song. 190 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: Originally it was honestly just another love song, and I 191 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: died that that didn't start out in a way that 192 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I said I was going to propose using this song. 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: So it took several times to finish the song because 194 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know where to take the last verse. But 195 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: the guys that I wrote the song with we got 196 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: back together. We were writing a completely different song and 197 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: we were like, let's finish this one, and I said, hey, 198 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: I do plan on proposing potentially in a couple of 199 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: months from now. What if we wrote a proposal in 200 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: the third verse. I was just thinking of it. This 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: is a creative way to propose, because Lauren had already 202 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: given me strict instructions that if I were to ever 203 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: propose to her, it better not ever be on stage 204 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: in a stadium or anywhere like that. She wanted to 205 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: be super private, So I thought, well, what would be 206 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: a unique way to do that? And the third verse 207 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: just flowed out incredibly fast, like thirty seconds, as fast 208 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: as you could just write something down, and I wrote, 209 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: I told the guys, this is exactly what I plan 210 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: on doing. We're going to be in her parents' backyard. 211 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask her her parents if that's okay, 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: and I did it there on Father's Day or Dad 213 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: was all in on it. And the way I set 214 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: this up was, you know, I would go write songs 215 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: during the day, and I'd come home that afternoon and 216 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: I would play Lauren the song that I wrote that day, 217 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: and she'd give me her opinion on it, whether she 218 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: loved it or not. And I was on tour with 219 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: Brad Paisley at the time, and I played up in Portland, 220 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: Oregon the night before I proposed, so it made it 221 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: easy for me to disguise what was going to happen. 222 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: She had no clue what was happening, so I had 223 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: the way I was able to record it without her 224 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: real what was going on is at the time, we 225 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: had been talking about doing this YouTube series, not reality thing, 226 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: but just like creating like a small little YouTube thing 227 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: for the both of us. And I said, while we're there, 228 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: since since I'm playing with Brad Paisley the night before 229 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be at your parents' house celebrating Father's Day, 230 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: why don't we have my camera guy come over there 231 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: and just capture the day with your family in case 232 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: we everyoneted to use that on our page. So that's 233 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: how I disguised it. She had no clue. She just 234 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: thought that they were they're. 235 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: Doing that genius. 236 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then I set the song up exactly like 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: I would if we were chilling in the house. I 238 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, I just got this demo 239 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: back of a song that I wrote. I want to play, 240 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: and we had a speaker out there, and her family 241 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: knew when that when I said that moment, everybody just 242 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: kind of come around and nonchalantly kind of listen. And 243 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: so I was playing it. The first two verses happened. 244 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell whether she likes the song or not, 245 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: but I leaned over I said, baby, it's my favorite part, 246 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: because I needed to make sure that she was listening. 247 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to propose in this last verse, and I 248 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of blacked out from there. I remember her putting 249 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: her hands over her mouth. She's like, oh my godsh 250 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: this is happening. I grab her hand and walk her 251 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: out to the yard. And right as I was about 252 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: to get down on my knees that was barefoot that day, 253 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: I stepped in a massive dog turd. Proposed with the 254 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: turd in between my toes. 255 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: No oh, oh my gosh. 256 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Oh yes, her parents' little Corgi dogs must have done 257 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: some damage out there right before that happened, and I 258 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: didn't know it because we've been playing we'd been playing 259 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: cornhole in that same area all day long. 260 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: That is actually so funny, and it kind of makes 261 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: the proposal better in my opinion. I feel like that 262 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: just adds an element of like humor to it. That 263 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: it's like, it's just so funny. 264 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody said, I hear that's good luck, and I 265 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: have no clue how that could ever be good. 266 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: Look, I don't know, but honestly, it looks like it's working, 267 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: so something about it must have brought you guys some 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: good juju. 269 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: She helped me clean it off after that, and I'm like, wow, 270 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: this is what a way to propose. Also got a 271 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: whole different aspect of it. 272 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: I was not expecting that is so funny. 273 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 2: So I'm curious when it happened. Did you acknowledge it 274 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: or did you just keep walking? 275 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: No, I did not acknowledge it until after she said yes, 276 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: and then I looked down. I'm like, please do not 277 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: be what I think this is. And it sure was. 278 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: That is so funny I literally. 279 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: Blacked out in the moment, like I couldn't remember anything 280 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: that I wanted to say. I had this whole thing 281 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: that I wanted to say. I'd ever said one word 282 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: of it. I just whatever came out came out in 283 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: that moment. The best part about all of this is 284 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: now that that song was never intended to get out there. 285 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: It was just a moment for her and I. So 286 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: the fact that people loved it so much and ended 287 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: up making it a number one for me was was 288 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: pretty crazy because I never expected that when I again, 289 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: never planned on even releasing the song. But since the 290 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: release of that song, it helped me take the next 291 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: big step in my career. So I'm incredibly thankful for that. Obviously, 292 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: it was incredible for my life. And then I get 293 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: to watch guys on a nightly basis. While I'm out 294 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: on tour. People are always hitting us up saying, hey, 295 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: I want to I want to propose on stage to 296 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 1: big plans, and I it's my favorite thing that happens 297 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: not every single night, but a lot of nights because 298 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I get to watch guys go through what I went 299 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: through when I proposed. I mean when I hand them 300 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: a microphone It's definitely different than proposing in her parents 301 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: backyard than it is on stage or the microphone in 302 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: front of a crowd full of people. I watched guys 303 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: blackout not know what they're saying, and obviously I had 304 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: just gone through that, so I can feel what they're 305 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: going through. But you and somebody microphone, they forget to 306 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: talk into it like it's funny. 307 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it. 308 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Makes for an incredible moment on stage on most sides. 309 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 310 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: And it's because even as you were talking about this 311 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: song and like how you weren't going to release it, 312 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: it's crazy because that's a song that you know, me 313 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: as somebody that's not in a relationship or whatever. But 314 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 2: you hear that song and you're like, this is this 315 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: is what I hope somebody feels for me someday, And 316 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: this is what I hope to feel for somebody someday. 317 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 2: Like it's such a beautiful song that it's interesting as 318 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: like normal people, we can't, you know, create art that 319 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: expresses how we feel in a way that artists can. 320 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: So it's really cool that you did put it out there. 321 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: It's even cooler that it was meant to be just 322 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: something for her, and it's taken your career to the 323 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: next level and it's become this thing that people can, like, 324 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: will come and propose at your shows. Like that is 325 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: so beautiful and cool. I can't imagine what that must 326 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: feel like. 327 00:15:55,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think as a songwriter first, it makes it 328 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: extra special when you see people connect to a song 329 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: in that way. You know. I had songs like Fix, 330 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: which is just an up tempo, like feel good song, 331 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: or her kind of love song tape that Homegirl. I 332 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but this one in a different 333 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: way connected with people. And when you sit down to 334 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: write songs, that's what you're hoping to write every time, 335 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: is just a song that connects in the way that 336 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: this one did. 337 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: Right. 338 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: I was very happy about that. 339 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Amazing. 340 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: Okay, so you kind of mentioned that Lauren wanted something 341 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: really private for her proposal, and obviously, coming from the Bachelor, 342 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: it's not a real private lifestyle. Sometimes, like everyone wants 343 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: to know not just about your personal life, but specifically 344 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: your dating life and your love life. Like that becomes 345 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: such a curiosity point for people. How do you, guys 346 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: balance obviously having a public relationship because people are just 347 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: gonna be curious and you're both public figures and also 348 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: like keeping your privacy, keeping things to yourself, Like how 349 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: do you like, did you have trouble navigating that or 350 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 2: did it come pretty natural? 351 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel like it kind of in reality, came 352 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: pretty pretty natural in the sense of I feel like 353 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: before I met Lauren, I was pretty open, you know, 354 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: whether it be on Instagram or just even out in public. 355 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: But then when I met her, you know, she had 356 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: been I would say, even more so in the public 357 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: eye than than even a country artist is, because you're 358 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: on in front of the TV in front of millions 359 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: of people every single week. And when I met her, 360 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: obviously it was it was a long time after the show. 361 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: I mean, probably what six or seven years off the show. 362 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I could be way off there, but it felt like 363 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: it was a long time. But I guess, as like 364 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: an influencer over how you want to say it, she 365 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: was used to kind of putting her life out there 366 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: a little bit more. And we share the things that 367 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: we want to share and keep private the things that we 368 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: don't want to share. But it's never been that hard 369 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: of a balance for me, I think now more so 370 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: than ever. Over the last two years, I haven't been 371 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: able to share as much as I want because I 372 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: feel like I'm so exhausted from the two under two aspect. 373 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I know Lawrence is kind of the same way, Like 374 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: you don't even think about jumping online and posting a 375 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff. We're kind of seeing that light 376 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel now, so we're posting 377 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: a little bit more than what we were. But yeah, yeah, 378 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy. You just share the things 379 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: you want to and the things you want to keep private. 380 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: You do that. But I feel like country fans they 381 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: love getting to know their artists and they're very loyal, 382 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: so you want to let them in on as much 383 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: as you can. And I think the funniest part about 384 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: all this, I say this all the time. We can 385 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: be anywhere this I'll know, the Bachelor Nation thing is 386 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: a real thing. We can be anywhere in this country. 387 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Of Lauren goes out on the road with me, eating 388 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: breakfast somewhere, launch dinner wherever it may be, and people 389 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: will constantly come up to her. All these years later, 390 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, she has on the TV in a long time, 391 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, people were like, oh my gosh, I loved 392 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: you on the show. Can I have a photo? All 393 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and it always blows my mind. 394 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, we're in the middle of nowhere and 395 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: they knew who you. 396 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool. 397 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I think it's the power of TV. 398 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, the power of TV and the power of Bachelor Nation. 399 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, since starting this podcast, I'm realizing just how 400 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: powerful the fan base is. 401 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 3: Like, it's crazy how what. 402 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: It can do for people's careers, whether you're contestant on 403 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: the show or an artist that comes on the show. 404 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: It's like, it's really wild to see how it can 405 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: just affect people. And I mean it could be negative too, 406 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 2: but usually in a very positive way. 407 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: So that's pretty cool. 408 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. Girls come through, so you know, 409 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: artists do meet and griefs before the show and all 410 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and girls come through every single night. 411 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, is Lauren here? And I'm 412 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: like the boys to night They're like, oh my god, 413 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: we love her so much. We love you, but we 414 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: love her way More's. 415 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: That's the best compliment. 416 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: That's the I agree. 417 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: So we will have the boys because they're both under two, 418 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: Is that right? 419 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: Or they actually Dutton just turned three. Okay, I've been 420 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: saying two hundred two for so long, or forgetting three 421 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. But yeah, they're fifteen months apart. 422 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: That's perfect. That's gonna be so fun for them. 423 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Yes, in about four or five years from now, we'll 424 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: appreciate it. We did it so close. But yeah, two years, 425 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: it's been. Uh, it's been a grind, to say the least. 426 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: It's been an awesome grind. 427 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: So have they been out on the road at all 428 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: with you guys or did they always stay back in Nashville. 429 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, we tried with Dutton when it was just them, 430 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: and I think sleeping on a tour bus is a 431 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: whole different thing that may take them a while to 432 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: get used to. So we're gonna wait a couple of 433 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: years before we try to bring him out like maybe 434 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: here there. Every once in a while we will, but 435 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: for the most part, I have to have a voice, 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: and if I don't sleep because they're not sleeping, it's 437 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to sing later that night. 438 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's tough to navigate. But it will be really 439 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: cool when they're older. 440 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: And oh, yeah, I can't wait. 441 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: Do you think you'll put them in any kind of 442 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: like music lessons proactively. Are you gonna wait and see 443 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: if they're drawn to it? 444 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Like we're definitely drawn to it. Both of them already 445 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: love music so much. You know, I play guitar here 446 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: in the house a lot, and they love, love, love 447 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: the guitar. They're dancing to it now when I'm out 448 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: on the road. Lauren sends me videos all the time. 449 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: Dunton has this like electronic guitar. He's always has it 450 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: around his neck and he's always playing it and singing songs. 451 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: We never know what he's saying when he's singing, but 452 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: he's constantly singing. So I feel like maybe we've got 453 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: a little singer on our hands. 454 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. 455 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 2: That would be really awesome, And it's gonna be even 456 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: cooler when they can't come out on the road and 457 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: see what you do and have the magnitude of, oh 458 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: my gosh, this is what my dad's job is. 459 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: I know, I brought I was doing this series XIM 460 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: thing during CMA Fest and we brought the kids out. 461 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: That's the first time they really ever seen me do 462 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: anything to where Dutton kind of can understand what's going 463 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: on a little bit. So I get up there to play, 464 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: and all he wants me to play is old McDonald 465 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: had a farm. So I just broke it out right 466 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: there on the guitar in front of everybody on the radio, 467 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: and it made for a funny moment. 468 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: That's amazing, That's so cool. 469 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got a couple more questions before I let 470 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: you go, But one of them is what advice would 471 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: you give to a younger version of yourself, Whether it's relationship, 472 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 2: whether it's career like your where you're at now, you're 473 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: in a really good place with both of those things. 474 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 3: What would you say to your younger self. 475 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a great question. I think I would say, 476 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for being patient and not settling. 477 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Is the first thing that kind of pops in my head. 478 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: You know, I was in a couple of relationships before Lauren, 479 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: nothing like crazy long. But I'm just I guess thankful 480 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: that I didn't settle and always knew exactly kind of 481 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: what I wanted and I didn't really know that I 482 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: would find that until I met her. But you know, 483 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I think when you're an artist and you're trying to 484 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: have a career, there's not a whole lot of time 485 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: to dedicate to somebody else that you got to put 486 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: it all out there for yourself. So I'm incredibly thankful 487 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: I was patient in those moments and didn't try to 488 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: force anything to happen. And you know, it was weird. 489 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: In reality, I was always the guy who said I 490 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to get married, didn't want kids. That was 491 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: just one of those things I kind of felt in 492 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: my heart. And it's pretty crazy when you meet somebody 493 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: that you want to spend the rest of your life with, 494 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: they change everything about the way that you thought about 495 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: all of those things. And I remember the day that 496 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: Dutton was born. I was holding in my arms and 497 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm not an emotional person, but I just started crying 498 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: and I was like, Lord, thank you for not listening 499 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: to me for all those times I said I didn't 500 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: want any of this stuff, because it was the greatest 501 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: thing that ever happened to me. 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 2: Wow, that's really cool. That's amazing, and I'm happy for you, Like, 503 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: that's just that's just really cool. 504 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it all worked out. 505 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And. 506 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a good reminder for anyone out 507 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: there listening, myself included. I'm like, you're exactly where you're 508 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: meant to be, and you've got to have faith and 509 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: things are gonna turn out exactly how they're meant to be. 510 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: So that's really cool to hear. 511 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst thing anybody can do, honestly is settle. 512 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: And you know when you have like the gut instinct 513 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: and gut feeling that it's not everything that you want 514 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: it to be. Because I believe that, I believe in prayer, 515 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: I know that it works and when it's meant to happen, 516 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: and it's happening in the Lord's timing, it'll be everything 517 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: you want and then some. 518 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: I love that. That's amazing. 519 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 2: Okay, So before I let you go, I've got I 520 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: think it's a funny question. But this show is about 521 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: kind of like bachelor adjacent Bachelor crossover things. So I 522 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: think it was about a month ago you posted a picture. 523 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: It was the night that you met Lauren, I believe, 524 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 2: and at the time she was engaged, well not at 525 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: that time, but at the time the picture was taken, 526 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: she was engaged to Ben and I think it kind 527 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: of shook up Bachelor Nation because it was like, oh 528 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 2: my gosh, this is a photo. It's the first night 529 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: y'all met obviously way before you guys ever dated or anything, 530 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: but it was the first night you met, So it 531 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: is a very special moment. 532 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 3: But it's also kind of funny, Like it's kind of funny. 533 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: And and after I saw some of the negative comments, 534 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: which you know, I don't I don't see a lot 535 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: of those, but yeah, I guess I made a few 536 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: people mad. I didn't mean to him, like did they 537 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: not read my caption? Only just looked at the photo 538 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: and didn't read the caption. So before I even posted that, 539 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: I actually texted Ben so him and I plan a 540 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: lot of these same golf tournaments together, and I've kind 541 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: of got to know him a little bit through that, 542 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: and super nice guy. And the last thing I'd ever 543 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: want to do is, uh, is do something disrespectful like that. 544 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: So I asked him if he was cool with me, 545 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: uh posting that and that obviously I don't mean anything 546 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: by it. It's just kind of her and I didn't 547 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: even start dating until four years after that photo was taken, right, 548 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: And I think people, I guess they thought that I 549 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: met her that night and then we started dating immediately 550 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: after that, which was just not even close to the case, 551 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: it was four years after the photo was taken. I 552 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: barely even saw her, spoke to her in between that time, 553 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: long long before or long after their relationship had ended, 554 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So he was totally fine with that 555 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: and understood, and and I just thought it was a 556 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: fun way to show people like I met Lauren. I'm 557 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: playing the iHeart Festival right now, and I met her 558 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: all these years ago after this actual event when she 559 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: came off of the show, and I just thought that 560 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: was gonna be a fun moment to share. I didn't 561 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: realize it was gonna shake things up. And I guess 562 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: I should have posted Ben's okay with me posting this photo. 563 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: I think it's I personally think it's funny. Like even 564 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: when I kind of learned about the drich, I was like, actually, I. 565 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: Think that's even better. 566 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: Like I just think it's so funny how life works, 567 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 2: and life has worked out so beautifully for both of you. 568 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: It would be different if you did meet her that 569 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: night and swept rap her feet and then took her 570 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: away like that would be and Ben was still single, 571 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: Like that would all be a big different story. 572 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 3: But you both I have. 573 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: The I have the emotional intelligence I would never do 574 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: something like that to. 575 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: Something Yeah, totally. 576 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I know. I know that he's incredibly happy 577 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: with how things ended up for him, as I know 578 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Lauren is. But yeah, it was pretty funny that you 579 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: brought that up, because yeah, some of the comments were like, Wow, 580 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: I can't believe you do this, and I'm like, did 581 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: you read the caption right? No. 582 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 2: People love to jump to conclusions, and I think that 583 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: is going back to the question about how do you 584 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 2: kind of balance like what you share what you don't share. 585 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: It's sometimes you have to. It's a fine. 586 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: Line because what to me is like a funny, like 587 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: interesting behind it kind of behind the scenes thing of 588 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: like how you guys originally met, you know, even though 589 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: there was no romantic connection there, but it's it's really 590 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: an interesting thing and a part of me. 591 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: If I were you, i'd be like, all right, I'm 592 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: not sharing with you guys next time. 593 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm gonna give you that personal, like 594 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: behind the scenes look in my life because if you're 595 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 2: gonna take this and run with a whatever narrative or 596 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: bleeve nasty comments like that's not something we need in 597 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: our lives. But but I think it's good because I 598 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: think it's nice to set the record straight and and 599 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure most people actually found it kind of how 600 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: we did, where it's like this is kind of a funny, 601 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: like interesting, beautiful moment, and you know, coming off the show, 602 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: it's like it's I don't know, I mean, I know 603 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: that they were engaged, but I'm like, you're in just 604 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: such a whirlwind of an experience that like it's it's 605 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: a I feel like an engagement on the show is 606 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 2: kind of different than an engagement in real life and 607 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: in general, So it's just an interesting dynamic. 608 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: But I'm glad I got to ask you your your 609 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: thoughts on it. 610 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: And oh I saw Ben comment on it, and I 611 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: think he commented your lyrics back which was really. 612 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: Good, which was which was a hilarious response in the 613 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: best way. And I think that just goes to show 614 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: what kind of guy is super nice guy. And again, 615 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: I should have probably just wrote on the Dagon post 616 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: before everybody gets upset at this read the caption and 617 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Ben said he was absolutely fine with me posting this photo. Right. 618 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, thank you so much for joining us today. 619 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: It was a pleasure getting to know you here about 620 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 2: your family, your life and career a little bit, and 621 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: I just think you're the perfect gest for the show. 622 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: So thank you so much for coming on and chatting 623 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: with us. 624 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: Heck, yeah, thank you very much for having me. I 625 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 626 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 627 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: Take care and tell Lauren that everyone at Bacheloration loves 628 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: her and missus her. 629 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: I will, I sure will. 630 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, of course, take care. 631 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: All right, nice to meet you. 632 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Nice to meet you too, by bye, all right, see you. 633 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: Thank you so much again to Chris Lane for joining 634 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: us today I'm Beyond the Bachelor. It was such a 635 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: pleasure interviewing him, and as a fan myself, I have 636 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: to plug his new EP from where I'm sippin'. He 637 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: has some amazing songs out there, and he's also going 638 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: to be doing a little bit of touring this summer, 639 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: so check it out online to see if he's coming 640 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: to a city near you. 641 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: Thank you, guys for listening, and we'll see you next time. 642 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: I'm Beyond the Bachelor.