WEBVTT - NFL Draft: Rounds 2 & 3 INSTANT REACTIONS | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:03.920 On today's episode of Tickets to the Draft podcast presented 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.240 by Sea Geek, we are taking a deep dive into 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.879 the second and third rounds and breaking down the newest 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.240 commanders at all starts right out. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.360 Welcome on into the Ticket of the Draft podcast. 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:22.520 Presented by officialing partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm Logan 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.680 Paulson here with just a guy Jason, and we have 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.319 just finished up Day two for the Washington Commanders. For 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.640 how many picks? We got five picks in today, all 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:32.760 good football players. 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:35.159 You're breaking up just a little bit, Logan, But I 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.279 think what you're asking me to do here is go 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.040 through the list because we're presented by Sea Geek, and 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.040 I had the best seat in the house in Detroit 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.839 with Santana Mawson Brian Mitchell, and what I saw out 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.720 there was I saw us take Joshn Newton with the 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.360 thirty sixth pick. He goes by Johnny the defensive tackle 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.440 from Illinois. Then we had a trade. Okay, we traded 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.720 back with Philadelphia, a division rival. I thought that was 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:01.200 pretty interesting. What do you think about that? Before I 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:02.160 break down the trade? 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.600 You know, I don't know people get into that all 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:04.959 the time. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.080 I think if it's the best, you know, if it's 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:12.080 the best trade value, you don't care about the guy. 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:13.800 You don't want the guy that they're trading out for 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.000 because you're trading out of the spot and get the 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.560 best value for it, even if it is with a 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:21.800 division rival. I mean, I think there's blocking player. But 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:24.360 I think it sounded like the trade, at least from 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.000 the stuff that I was reading, was very advantageous for 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.880 the commanders and their goals, and kind of I look 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.480 at it, the commanders got what they wanted, and it 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.480 doesn't really bother me that Philly got a player that 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.280 they wanted, because I think that we were able to 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.559 add multiple players that we will kind of the commander's 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:42.720 math that I look at there. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.640 So Yeah, So what the trade ended up being was 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:50.080 that Philly got our second round pick that was number forty, 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.160 and we swapped with them. We moved back ten spots 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:55.840 to fifty, so we basically did a little swap there 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:59.400 in a second Then Philly received our third round pick, 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.240 the seventy eighth, and our fifth round pick, the one 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.480 hundred and fifty second. Now we got another second round pick, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.600 so we basically moved up from the third round to 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.480 the second round, getting that fifty third pick. I think 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.800 that that's what twenty some spots. So basically what we 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.600 did is we took what was our third round pick, 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:18.639 we moved up, we moved back ten spots in the 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.919 second round. That moved our third round up twenty some spots, 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.840 and then we are the one sixty first pick in 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:31.360 the fifth round. So it was basically my guess was 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.480 that Peters and the front office was like, hey, we 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.160 have a big board here. We have a bunch of 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.280 guys that we feel comfortable with that we can move 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.960 back ten spots, but we also have some guys that 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.440 may not be there in the later in the later rounds, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.680 like getting into that third round, we want to kind 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.920 of stay here in the second and grab a couple 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.400 of guys back here stay in this tier. So this 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:56.639 made the smart move for them, but it seemed like 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.560 a smart move for them. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:02:59.920 All right. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.960 That's just again, all right, So then we went to 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.400 what those picks ended up being. So the fiftieth pick 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:10.160 was Mike Sanders, still the defensive back from Michigan. Small 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.120 little guy but twitched up quick. He's probably going to 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.720 be in the nickel I would think. Then in the 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.120 fifty third pick, we got Ben sinnat the tight end 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.519 from Kansas. I can't wait to hear you break him down. 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.120 In the third round, the sixty seventh pick, Brandon Coleman, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.360 that's where we got the tackle from TCU. And we 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.600 have remaining picks number one hundred, right, that's. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.800 The last one hundred, and that was Luke McCaffrey. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.320 Luke McCaffrey, the wide receiver six ' to two out 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:41.800 of Rice, little brother of Christian McCaffrey. 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.960 Yeah, and you know so, I think, just on the whole, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.360 I think Johnny Newton's kind of the most interesting, not 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:51.680 the most interesting. I think he surprised me of the day, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:54.839 not because of you know, the player necessarily, but because 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.000 he was still available. And I think that the Commanders 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.280 did one hundred percent of the right thing of taking 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.840 a tack who twitched up, got great hands, he's got 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:07.640 a great motor, he's a captain, very productive player, understands 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.760 how to win from a pass rushed at. And then 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.160 really nice depth rotational piece for the Washington Commanders. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:15.520 And I think it also allows. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.839 You to deploy those different body types, those big defensive 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.600 tackle bots of Don and John Allen in different ways 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.479 by getting another pass rusher on the field. So I 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.480 love that, And I think that's an example of kind 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.880 of what you alluding to, Jason, where you say this guy, 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.800 you know you're on a board kind of head and shoulders, 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.279 like too good to pass up. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:35.880 Let's take him. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:37.640 And I think that's kind of how I feel about 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.800 Johnny Newton and again very as that he was and 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.560 I had a first round great on him and really 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.240 happy that he ends up falling to the Commanders. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.880 Yeah, I mean I agree. I think our fans have 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.520 been winning for so long the best player available strategy. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.680 Like we hear that all the time. The Ravens are 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.960 attached to that the best player available, best player available. 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.760 And I think this is where it actually plays out, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:02.919 or at least where you see it play out, because 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.560 I'm with you, Logan, Like when I released my big board, 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.920 I add Johnny Newton as a first round talent like 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:16.520 on my board and the second best interior defensive player on 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:20.080 the board behind Byron Murphy. And so when you're getting 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.359 into this spot, I'm saying to myself, Yeah, that makes 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:27.000 that's best player available strategy, right, It's what you Now 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.920 I'm not saying they're using my big board, but if 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.400 they were, if I were doing it, like, I would 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.160 do that move right, So I would think that they 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:37.160 had something along that line where it's like the talent 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.120 level is here, we just got to take it and 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.600 we trust that we'll be able to fill the positions 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:48.040 with our scouting right and trusting our scouting for the 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.160 later rounds to fill these other holes. But I'm super excited. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:53.360 I think he's a great player. 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.920 Yeah, no, I think he's a great player. And again, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.560 I just go back to the physical competitivenessness that he 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:02.600 I mean, we're going to say that those two words 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.119 a lot with these prospects. And I'm not just saying 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.240 it because that's what Adam Peters said. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:08.880 That's what I'm saying because that's. 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.120 What you see on film with all of them, and 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.479 Johnny Newton's uh, no exception to that. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.479 I think he just he plays incredibly hard. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.159 I love seeing prospects that play like that, and then 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.400 you couple that with some athletic talent. You know why 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.080 the first round, if I were to guess, I think 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.400 he's got a little bit of stiffness to him. But 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.360 I think the other things that he does well in 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.200 terms of get off the motor, hand play out for 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.839 some of that stuff and allowed him to be a 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.360 productive player and I think encourage a very positive projection, especially. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.800 In this in this Wit defense. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:43.000 So and then the second guy is Mike sanderstill from Michigan, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:47.400 and man he is he is a special football player, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.760 like when I you know, people talk about him being 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.000 the soul of that team along with Junior Colston, the 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.960 middle linebacker that you know the Chargers end up drafted later. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.360 But man, he is all over the field. He's he's 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.760 instinct excellent click and close ability. The instincts are off 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.040 the chart. He's a captain on that team. He had 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.440 six interceptions, and he's a guy that you know played inside, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:11.920 has played inside in college, but is going to be 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.760 an inside player kind of that rotational. 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.200 Piece in that defense. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:17.840 And you see all these defenses now that run you know, 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:21.000 three safeties in a nickel, and I think the Commanders 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.600 are kind of building that foundation to get that done. 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.520 And people say what about Kwan Martin, And I just say, man, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.640 you need good football players, and he is an excellent 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.640 football player. Things that Peters mentioned as press conference is 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.080 that you know, obviously he came in as a receiver, 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:38.000 but at his proto he also did receiver drills and 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.960 just kind of showed off kind of that ballerty and 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.800 again like he like in terms of a football player, 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:49.000 like instincts to screens, tackling on runs, like there's a 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:51.720 fearlessness to his game, which I love for a guy 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.560 that's you know, five nine and a half and one 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.880 hundred and eighty five pounds. So again, just a football 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:00.160 play in Johnny and the guy that I think to 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:01.720 his team's better right now. 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.920 So yeah, absolutely, And for Mikey comeing from Michigan, right 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.600 so national champ and I know a lot of people 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:12.280 would say does this fill in need? It absolutely feels 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:15.360 a need, right because Kendall Fuller has gone. Kawan Martin 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.160 was kind of that guy that was in the slot 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.520 a little bit last year, but he can play that 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.720 safety or that Buffalo Nickel type role and let Sanders 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:29.120 Hill kind of move to that position there. But either way, right, 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.520 one of the things that Quinn and Witt have been 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.480 saying is they're not gonna let a the name of 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.400 a position that you play like, They're not going to 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.320 let that handcuff them, right. They're gonna put players in 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.200 positions to make plays on the field. And it doesn't 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.400 matter if you like you're a quote safety or a 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.320 nickel or whatever. They're going to put you on the 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.680 field where they think you can make an impact. And 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.199 I think all these guys can be on the field. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.640 At the same time, I'm also super excited that he's 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.600 a ballhawk, right, six interceptions this year if we get 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.400 if Forbes gets back into that tendency, which I think 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:09.520 he can, Like, you've got wit putting together once again. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.800 Another secondary that just that ball is life. They got 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.560 to have it, and it looks like they're getting some 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.720 players that have the talent to go get it. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.480 Yeah, And again I just think, you know, you're trying 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.800 to change a culture with an organization, and you get 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.760 a guy who's a captain and Johnny Newton who just 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.920 plays his absolute face off. You get a guy and 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:32.520 Sanders still who is extremely competitive, plays extremely hard, does 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.120 the things that are difficult for corners to do normally, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.600 like tackling and you know, taking on blocks, and he's 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:39.480 very willing to do that. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.319 So it just makes me excited. Man. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.120 They did such a great job in free agency of 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.200 bringing in people like that, and I think these two 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.880 guys definitely fit that build and it leads you, honestly. 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:48.800 Right into the next guy. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:53.520 Bensonatt from Kansas State, the tight end who is you know, 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:54.360 I kind of had him. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.880 As more of like a full back in my mind. 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.600 You know, he's six three and. 0:09:57.520 --> 0:09:59.960 A half two hundred and fifty pounds, but you know 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.640 when he goes to the senior ball, you see him 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.640 do more traditional why stuff, in line stuff, and I think. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.439 He was very competitive in those situations. 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.040 And then you couple that with his ability to get 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:13.760 into two point run a you know, not a super 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.079 sudden athlete, but has some vertical speed, some vertical routes, 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.920 savvy which gets you excited. And I think, again, you 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.560 know we're going to you're gonna get tired of hearing this, 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:27.600 but a competitive, tough guy that plays football the right way. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.160 And you know, like what does that mean? Like I'm 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.400 willing to block, I'm going to finish plays, I'm going 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.839 to finish runs. I'm going to make tough catches. I 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.920 don't care if I'm getting collision. Like that's what he is, 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.839 and I think that's just that's awesome. And then in 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.840 terms of usage, I think, you know, again, if he 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.400 wears number thirty four in college, he reminded me a 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.360 lot of Kyle Uschek. But the way you use Kyle 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.640 Uschek is you getting twenty one personnel, So you know, 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.680 a tight end in a fullback, he's your fullback, but 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:57.240 that fullback is actually a mismatch speech because the defense 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.679 now has to match in base defense. Now I can 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.600 motion that guy to the slot, I can put him 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.120 in line, I can motion him out out wide, and 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:06.720 we can get a match up on a linebacker. And 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.920 I think he's good enough as a route runner to 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.920 win some of those matchups. So I really really like 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:13.760 this pick a lot. And I think when you think 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.560 about the flexibility that it gives the offense, it's going 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.760 to be pretty special in terms of pieces. And I 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.160 think it's great that he's going to get to learn 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.400 from zach Ertz. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:27.800 Yeah. Absolutely, And if you go to the Commander's YouTube page, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:31.400 you can check out the media press or interview that 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.120 we had. We have of all our draft picks. But 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:37.200 what Benson I was saying is he is a he 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.960 wanted to come here. He loved his talking with the 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.000 coaches when he interviewed with them and met with them. 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.600 He loved it so much that this was his number 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.720 one place. Super excited to come here, super excited because 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.720 of Cliff and what coach Kingsbury can do with him. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.920 He said, I'm a skilled guy that can do a 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:58.000 lot of things. I'm excited to be a versatile Swiss 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:01.160 army knife for him. And then guess what he also said, Hey, 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.959 I know Jade and Daniels. I actually worked out with 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.760 him a little bit out in Calli and like, what 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.480 an athlete, what a baller, what a player like? This 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.720 could not be a better place for him, That's what 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.280 he was saying. And like, yes, how great is it 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.280 to finally have players that were drafting here like openly 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.400 saying this is where we want to be. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.280 Yeah, yeah, I know, and I'm totally with it. 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.000 I know, And a lot of fans were, you know, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:27.400 maybe higher on the guy from. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.880 Texas what's his name, traditions, Javan. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.280 Sanders, and I just think Ben gives you so much more, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.959 so much more of what a traditional tight end does 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.680 while also maintaining some of the ability as a pass catcher. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.240 Like if there was a guy Obviously brock Bowers is 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.720 in his own category, but this Spenser knot's like brock 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:46.800 Bowers light and so I think with a with a 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:50.800 very savvy offensive coordinator, he can he can maximize that. So, 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.560 you know, maybe not the vertical passing threat that Sanders is, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.400 but I think just a much better football player. And 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.600 you know, you love comments like that at the presser 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:01.800 where he's excited. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.640 To be here, he wants to be part of the organization. 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.000 Multi sport athlete and the other thing about him, you know, 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:10.320 not a walked on to Kansas State and then earned 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.280 his scholarship and a guy that's seen adversity and fought 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:13.840 through things. 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.360 And when you hear Dan. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.720 Talk about you know, Jaden's process fighting through adversity and 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.960 the different schools, the different programs. You know, the concussion 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.439 I forget against Alabama then coming back against Florida and 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.319 playing well like bensonat has elements of that to him 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:33.640 as well. So again, really excited because I think he's 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.680 again tough guy, but a nice movable piece that has 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.160 some past game upside and some nice physicality in the 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.080 run game despite maybe not being you know, kind of 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.480 THEO Johnson in terms of builds for example. 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.800 So yeah, and talking about that like dog gas attitude 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:53.080 right that Dan Quinnon mentions all the time. Now I 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.760 wanted to mention that Johnny Newton and his presser said, 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.360 I thought I was a first round talent and now 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.920 I got a chip on my shoulder and on our 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:03.880 show that we were doing on our Command Center Special Live, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.720 That's something that Brian Mitchell was saying before we made 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.960 that pick. He wants guys at this point who feel 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:14.200 like they should be taken higher than they were and 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.319 are going to come in improve it, prove that they 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:18.240 were a first rounder. And it's like, because that's the 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.800 attitude he wants with people, right, and it's exciting that 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.200 we're getting these guys that have this type of attitude. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:28.200 It's clearly Peters and Quinn are looking for guys that 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.560 want to play football and they want to play it 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.480 in a chip on our shoulder manner. So we were 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.000 just talking there about the defensive line and Johnny Newton, 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.560 let's move to the offensive line. We got to protect 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.640 Jayden Daniels. We know that we need to add some 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.640 depth at all offensive line, and with the sixty seventh 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.720 pick we took Brandon Coleman out a TCU tell us 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:49.720 about him, Logan. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.760 Yeah, Brandon Coleman is a guy that I found his 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:54.960 off season process to be very very interesting because I think, 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.960 you know, the first day I watched him, he's kind 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.680 of like this thick lower half guy, you know, kind 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.600 of big burly upper body, and he wears like a 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.840 cowboy collar, you know, like a board that you see 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.400 like an old school high school linebacker wearing. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.240 And you're like, man, that's a guard if I've ever 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:09.680 seen one. 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.920 And I think, you know, you watch him and he 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.000 plays guard at TCU. He plays a little bit of 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.600 left tackle, you know, they had some injuries they had 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.720 to move around the front. And then he goes to 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.520 the Senior Bowl and he plays guard and he doesn't 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.240 really play a lot of tackle. And then you know, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.280 as you're watching the film him and then you go 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.120 to this, then you on a combine excuse me, and 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.240 dude tests off the charts. He runs a four ninety nine, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.200 which was one of the faster times at the combine. 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:40.320 He has thirty thirty five in charms. He has a 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.640 thirty four hinge vertical, which were an offensive lineman. I 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:48.240 think is like ninetieth percent time, fifth percentile. Excellent job there, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.520 does a great job with the movement Joe's You're like, well, 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.560 if this guy's such a tremendous athlete, like why wasn't 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.560 he playing left tackle? Then you go back and watch 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.880 the Michigan game from twenty twenty two where they you know, 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.200 I think it was the National Championship game or the 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.200 semifinal game, and he's playing left tackling and some really 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.080 good NFL players, NFL pass rushers, and looks in total control. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.920 So it was a little bit of a confounding evaluation 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.960 to me as to kind of saying, why did he 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.200 see you move them into guard? 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:17.920 But as so far as. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.880 A player goes very physical, very powerful, very powerful man, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.200 very strong hands, got good snap from the hips, contract 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.600 well to the second level kind of reminds me in 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.520 terms of, you know, if you see him and projecting 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.920 as a left tackle, which I think you know, based 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.080 on what Adam and Dan had said, that's kind of 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.200 the direction they see him going. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:37.479 Understands the pass protection. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.680 Line really well, knows how to use His length is 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.240 more of a forty five degree setter as opposed to 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.720 a vertical setter, which he which shows me that he 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.080 understands the angle of the rusher and how to kind 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.760 of maximize what he does well, which is get hands 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.200 on guys quickly and anchor. And if you look at 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.720 DJ Humphries from Arizona when Cliff was there, is a 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.920 little bit of an undersized guy, not a truly traditional 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.320 tackle build. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:00.840 The same range. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.960 So six four and a half three point fifteen to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.919 three twenty five, that's exactly what Brandon Coleman is And 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.879 it's kind of like, oh, my gosh, like this is 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.400 the type of guy they're looking for here, and very 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.359 smart football player, played multiple spots on the offensive line 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:20.440 captain at TCU, and has that mauling kind of dog 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.320 offensive lineman, you know, like kind of roll you up 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.760 and spitch you out type of mentality, which you know, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.159 again like just kind of fits. So that was a 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.760 really interesting evaluation for me for the offseason, and I 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.960 think a lot of people myself included, were like, oh, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.080 let's go for a tracy player like Patrick Paul or 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.000 Kieran Amadiji from Yale, like these guys that have all 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.840 these measurables. But here's a guy that's been very productive 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.600 in college, very consistent in college and has showed an 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:48.960 aptitude that those other guys have not shown yet in 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:53.840 terms of finishing, finishing plays and playing with that aggressive 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.280 physical mindset on every down, you know, as opposed to 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.480 a guy that's going to have to learn on the 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.960 job like Karan On a DG from Yale, or a 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.200 guy that's gonna have to clean up a lot of 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.200 his technique like Patrick Paul from Houston. So very very 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:09.119 you know, kind of a whirlwin in terms of evaluation, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:13.040 but a guy that I think fills a need and 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.400 could potentially be tremendous value here because of the athletic 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:17.960 upside with that. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:21.119 Sixty what pick was it? Sixty seven? Seventh yep? Sixty 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:21.680 seven yep. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.320 So let me tell you something real quick about him. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.920 He had one three hundred and seven pass blocking snaps. 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:32.720 This is all according to pff okay. Of those one thousand, 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.199 three hundred and seven pass blocking snaps, he allowed only 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.400 fifty four QB pressures. That's it, fifty four. And how 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:41.600 many sacks did he give up? 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:42.320 Three? Three? 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:46.040 Yeah, three, that's insane. And when you have a young 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.919 quarterback that's back there, yes, I mean he might not 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.199 start right away. I mean maybe he does, he might not. 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.760 Cornelius Lucas is on the team that could maybe be there, 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.280