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Speaker 1: On today's episode of Tickets to the Draft podcast presented

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Speaker 1: by Sea Geek, we are taking a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: the second and third rounds and breaking down the newest

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Speaker 1: commanders at all starts right out.

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Speaker 2: Welcome on into the Ticket of the Draft podcast.

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Speaker 1: Presented by officialing partner of the Washington Commanders. I'm Logan

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Speaker 1: Paulson here with just a guy Jason, and we have

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Speaker 1: just finished up Day two for the Washington Commanders. For

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Speaker 1: how many picks? We got five picks in today, all

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Speaker 1: good football players.

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Speaker 3: You're breaking up just a little bit, Logan, But I

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Speaker 3: think what you're asking me to do here is go

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Speaker 3: through the list because we're presented by Sea Geek, and

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Speaker 3: I had the best seat in the house in Detroit

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Speaker 3: with Santana Mawson Brian Mitchell, and what I saw out

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Speaker 3: there was I saw us take Joshn Newton with the

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Speaker 3: thirty sixth pick. He goes by Johnny the defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: from Illinois. Then we had a trade. Okay, we traded

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Speaker 3: back with Philadelphia, a division rival. I thought that was

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Speaker 3: pretty interesting. What do you think about that? Before I

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Speaker 3: break down the trade?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know people get into that all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: I think if it's the best, you know, if it's

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Speaker 1: the best trade value, you don't care about the guy.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the guy that they're trading out for

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Speaker 1: because you're trading out of the spot and get the

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Speaker 1: best value for it, even if it is with a

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Speaker 1: division rival. I mean, I think there's blocking player. But

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Speaker 1: I think it sounded like the trade, at least from

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Speaker 1: the stuff that I was reading, was very advantageous for

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Speaker 1: the commanders and their goals, and kind of I look

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Speaker 1: at it, the commanders got what they wanted, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me that Philly got a player that

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Speaker 1: they wanted, because I think that we were able to

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Speaker 1: add multiple players that we will kind of the commander's

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Speaker 1: math that I look at there.

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Speaker 3: So Yeah, So what the trade ended up being was

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Speaker 3: that Philly got our second round pick that was number forty,

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Speaker 3: and we swapped with them. We moved back ten spots

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Speaker 3: in a second Then Philly received our third round pick,

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Speaker 3: that Peters and the front office was like, hey, we

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Speaker 3: like getting into that third round, we want to kind

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Speaker 3: made the smart move for them, but it seemed like

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Speaker 3: That's just again, all right, So then we went to

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Speaker 3: In the third round, the sixty seventh pick, Brandon Coleman,

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Speaker 3: that's where we got the tackle from TCU. And we

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Speaker 3: have remaining picks number one hundred, right, that's.

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Speaker 2: The last one hundred, and that was Luke McCaffrey.

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Speaker 3: Luke McCaffrey, the wide receiver six ' to two out

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Speaker 3: of Rice, little brother of Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know so, I think, just on the whole,

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Speaker 1: I think Johnny Newton's kind of the most interesting, not

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Speaker 1: did one hundred percent of the right thing of taking

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Speaker 2: And I think it also allows.

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Speaker 1: You to deploy those different body types, those big defensive

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Speaker 1: of what you alluding to, Jason, where you say this guy,

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Speaker 2: Let's take him.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of how I feel about

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I agree. I think our fans have

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Speaker 3: been winning for so long the best player available strategy.

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Speaker 3: Like we hear that all the time. The Ravens are

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Speaker 3: attached to that the best player available, best player available.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is where it actually plays out,

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, Logan, Like when I released my big board,

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Speaker 3: I add Johnny Newton as a first round talent like

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Speaker 3: that's best player available strategy, right, It's what you Now

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're using my big board, but if

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Speaker 3: we trust that we'll be able to fill the positions

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Speaker 3: I think he's a great player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think he's a great player. And again,

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Speaker 1: I just go back to the physical competitivenessness that he

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying because that's.

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Speaker 1: What you see on film with all of them, and

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Speaker 1: I love seeing prospects that play like that, and then

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Speaker 2: In this in this Wit defense.

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Speaker 1: So and then the second guy is Mike sanderstill from Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and man he is he is a special football player,

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Speaker 1: But man, he is all over the field. He's he's

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Speaker 1: And you see all these defenses now that run you know,

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Speaker 1: And people say what about Kwan Martin, And I just say, man,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, five nine and a half and one

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Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely, And for Mikey comeing from Michigan, right

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Speaker 3: one of the things that Quinn and Witt have been

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Speaker 3: let that handcuff them, right. They're gonna put players in

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Speaker 3: I think all these guys can be on the field.

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Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm also super excited that he's

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Speaker 3: Another secondary that just that ball is life. They got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And again I just think, you know, you're trying

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Speaker 2: So it just makes me excited. Man.

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Speaker 1: They did such a great job in free agency of

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Speaker 1: Bensonatt from Kansas State, the tight end who is you know,

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Speaker 2: As more of like a full back in my mind.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's six three and.

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Speaker 1: A half two hundred and fifty pounds, but you know

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Speaker 1: when he goes to the senior ball, you see him

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Speaker 2: He was very competitive in those situations.

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Speaker 1: And then you couple that with his ability to get

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Speaker 1: Sanders, and I just think Ben gives you so much more,

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Speaker 3: That's something that Brian Mitchell was saying before we made

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon Coleman is a guy that I found his

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, you watch him and he

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Speaker 3: So let me tell you something real quick about him.

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Speaker 3: fifty four QB pressures. That's it, fifty four. And how

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Speaker 3: our last guy, and that would be Luke McCaffrey, who

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Speaker 3: twenty three. That's six among wide receivers. He's from Rice,

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Speaker 1: You know, you're Devon Teese, Walker's your Javon Baker's, Johnny

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Speaker 1: a mentality standpoint. You know, he tested really well at

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Speaker 1: He did really well with the movement and the agility stuff,

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Speaker 1: Dude has this relentless pursuit of greatness, you know, like

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Speaker 1: a guy is that screams to me, big slot. And

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Speaker 1: so what is a big slot. A big slot's a

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Speaker 1: guy that's going to go dig out of safety for

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Speaker 1: you. You're going to motion, You're going to maybe cut a

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Speaker 1: defensive end, You're going to do the dirty work. But

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Speaker 1: by doing the dirty work, you open yourself up in

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Speaker 1: the passing game because he does have rot running nuance.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's crazy to see all the rout

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Speaker 1: running nuance that he does have because you know, he's

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Speaker 1: only been playing receiver for two years. He play quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Nebraska prior to this, So his man has been

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Speaker 1: very impressive. His physicality is impressive. His hunger to be

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Speaker 1: great is a parent when you watch the film, and

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that is just a you know, is

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Speaker 1: an easy bet.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be a pro for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You can just tell by the way he approaches things,

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Speaker 1: and you hear stories about his brother and his father.

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Speaker 1: His mother was a softball player, his grandfather was an Olympian.

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Speaker 1: Like he comes from a long line of professional athletes.

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Speaker 1: And I know there's other guys, other names that were

457
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Speaker 1: maybe more recognizable at this point in the draft, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is just a surefire thing.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing I wanted to call.

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Speaker 1: Attention to is I think he has some returnability and

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Speaker 1: especially given the new kickoff return rules, it's going to

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Speaker 1: play like a gap scheme run or a power run.

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Speaker 1: And he hits the way his running style when he

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Speaker 1: gets reverses or he's a wildcat quarterback. At Rice is

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Speaker 1: downhill and hyper aggressive, and I think it just fits

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Speaker 1: perfectly with that new kickoff rule where you're trying to

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Speaker 1: basically find a way to create gap scheme, run and

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Speaker 1: hit a big you know, for a return. So the mentality,

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Speaker 1: the toughness, the physicality, the relentlessness, the conditioning, it's all there,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's just going to get better because

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Speaker 1: of that. He's a guy that's going to continue to

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Speaker 1: get better and a guy you want to bet.

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Speaker 2: On for sure.

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Speaker 3: Dogs, right, that's what we got. We got dogs and

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Speaker 3: getting the best player available while also addressing needs. Man,

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Speaker 3: what a time to be a Washington Commander fan. I

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Speaker 3: am so excited about what this team is going to

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Speaker 3: do this year and what Dan Quinn and Adam Peters

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Speaker 3: are putting together. It's a new era here in Washington. Man.

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Speaker 3: We have the one thirty ninth, one sixty first, and

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Speaker 3: the two twenty second pick still left. That's all tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to see what we find there. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there are going to be some hidden gems in there. Yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: what a what a fun time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's so cool. I think to see the vision,

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Speaker 1: you know, for the for Adam Peters and Dan Quinn

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00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: and how they were able to execute that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to see how that goes tomorrow because I think

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Speaker 1: in one of the things I was noticing is like, man,

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Speaker 1: how do you how do you feel how do you

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Speaker 1: find guys that continue to have this dog mentality, this

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Speaker 1: leadership mentality. But they did a great job of staying

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Speaker 1: true to that model and finding people that fit that mold.

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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to see the guys that come

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Speaker 1: up with in the fifth and the seventh rounds tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, this has always been a lot of fun

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 2: Logan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been great, man, And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we're into another one of these, but this has been

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Speaker 1: an awesome draft process and it's great to see all

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Speaker 1: these names that we spent all this time evaluating now

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Speaker 1: here as the newest commanders.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's it, Buddy,