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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Colts Reunion Podcast, a conversation with former

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Speaker 1: Colts players look back at their career, what they're up

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Speaker 1: to now, and how the Colts played a positive role

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Speaker 1: in their lives. Welcome everybody to another Cults Reunion podcast.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you. I'm Matt Taylor with former

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Speaker 1: Colts wide receiver and Ring of Honor member Bill Brooks,

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Speaker 1: and joining us today for a reunion is former Colts

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Speaker 1: defensive back Marlin Jackson. Drafted in the first round by

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Speaker 1: the Colts back in two thousand and five, played in

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis through two thousand and nine, and then had a

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Speaker 1: one year stint with the Philadelphia Eagles. Marlin is a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion with the Colts and was of course

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Speaker 1: involved in one of the most iconic plays in the

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Speaker 1: history of the Colts franchise, picking off Tom Brady in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and six AFC Championship Game to send

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Speaker 1: the Colts to the Super Bowl. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: surely coming up in just a bit, but Marlin, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for the time today. It's great to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. How are you. I'm good man, I'm good

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate you guys. Are you know, making the

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Speaker 1: space for me to join you there. Absolutely yeah. We

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Speaker 1: could not go very far in the Cults Reunion list,

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Speaker 1: if you will, without getting to Marlon Jackson and finding

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Speaker 1: out what you're up to. So let's start there. What

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Speaker 1: is what is life like for Marlin Jackson these days?

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Speaker 1: And uh, what are you up to around Central Indiana

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Speaker 1: and the city of Indianapolis. Still? Oh well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: first and foremost, you know, my my family, my wife,

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Speaker 1: Nicky and our three boys, camping, Keith, flowing cash, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, loving life, all the times I get to

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Speaker 1: spill with my family. UM. You know, coaching recreational sports, flags, football, baseball,

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Speaker 1: watching my boys play basketball, you know, my oldest son

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Speaker 1: camp and to get any play football for the first time,

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Speaker 1: tackle football for the first time. Gonna be coaching and

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Speaker 1: coaching hims. Moving forward to that, um. And then outside

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Speaker 1: of you know my family, UM, heavily engaged in social entrepreneurship. UM.

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Speaker 1: I know, people here, entrepreneurship starting a business, right, the

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Speaker 1: idea generating profit. But social entrepreneurship is starting a business.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just about making money. It's about social impact. UM.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of professionally, you know, that's what I've

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Speaker 1: you know, moving away from the game of football in

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Speaker 1: two thou twelve UM former formerly establishing my nonprofit organization,

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Speaker 1: the Fight for Life Foundation UM, as well as a

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Speaker 1: few other endeavors. But my focus has been you know,

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Speaker 1: devoted to the Fight for Life Foundation UM and even

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Speaker 1: you know, that's shape things that's grown. You know, we

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Speaker 1: went from doing football camps, having curriculum and schools doing

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Speaker 1: sophisticated and morphing into a software service nonprofit agency that's

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Speaker 1: focused on behavioral health to improve you know, education, student

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Speaker 1: and societal outcomes. And we do that by executing our

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Speaker 1: mission of helping underserve you develop social and emotional quality

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Speaker 1: strategically through school systems right where we equip administrators with

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Speaker 1: allows teachers to intervene in timely manner and ultimately heals

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Speaker 1: met the students and families needs that we that we

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Speaker 1: served from a programming Marlon, we know that starting a

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Speaker 1: non for profit there's an adjustment period there and also

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Speaker 1: In terms of my technique, UM, you know, those are

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Speaker 1: I look back at how things were during that period

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Speaker 1: people slipped. Well, you had people that were disappointed that

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Speaker 1: saying left down below, what a comeback, what an effort,

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00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: and what job. I mean, it's such a such a

430
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: great play, such a great call by the legendary Bob Blamy.

431
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I'm ready to go, Marlin, I'm

432
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: ready to play a football game. After that, it gives you,

433
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: it gives you a rush like yeah, and that's that's

434
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: the best thing about sports, Like you know, it's it's

435
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: the feelings, it's the energy, it's the the motions, like

436
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: and this is like for me, it's like listen, life period,

437
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: like you remember, you remember how people made you feel.

438
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: You know you you you remember those moments how you felt.

439
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what always resonates with me when

440
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: I hear that. It starts to stir up all those

441
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: those those warm fuzzy feelings, like you know, of knowing

442
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: that we're going to the Super Bowl. And then like

443
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: for me, it takes all of the encounters that I

444
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: have with fans and they tell me I was here,

445
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember the play. I was watching that

446
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: home with this person, with that person, and I felt

447
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: like this, yeah, like yeah, like well, you know, in

448
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: a sense, like forever connected to the coach fan base

449
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: because of that, because we all remember how we fill Marlin,

450
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: why don't you just drive downtown and hang out outside

451
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: of Saint Elmo's every single day because someone would recognize you,

452
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: someone would point you out. Hey, this is Marlon Jackson

453
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: who sealed the win for the Colts in the in

454
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship Game to get them in the Super Bowl.

455
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: The win over the Patriots and Tom Brady, you could

456
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: eat and drink for free the entire year. What are

457
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: you doing? I'm gonna try that idence that That's what

458
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: I would be doing. Man, I don't know about you.

459
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: That would be on my tombstone. There's there's no question

460
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: about I mean, but that that game and then that play,

461
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: it just it's signified, as you said, you know, just

462
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: something coming to an end with the Patriots and the

463
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: and the Colts and the playoffs and those bad memories.

464
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: It was just we finally did it. We finally got

465
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: over the hump that the dramatic win for the Colts

466
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: in that game, your play, your interception. It was like

467
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: Hollylujah moment for the entire fan base and obviously for

468
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: you guys in that locker room after that game. Yep.

469
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: And this this is one of the one things. So

470
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: just like as a Bill understands, this is where like

471
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: as an athlete, like I feel like you're like you're

472
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: in pursuit of your best yes, like and you don't

473
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: necessarily stop and settle like and like you know, that

474
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: play that was it. Like I'll just say, like me,

475
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm that way in life, Like that play

476
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: was not my pinnacle, like you know, but understanding the

477
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: magnitude of that in relations to what I do now,

478
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, it excites me to to understand that I'm

479
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: going to do something even greater, like you know, not

480
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: because it's a it's an accolade because of the impact,

481
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: like you know, And we're talking about the impact of

482
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: a sport and a game and the emotional impact that

483
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: it can have on people to be uplifting, uniting, and

484
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the impact of igniting that within a

485
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: child early in life, so that they're in power, they

486
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: know who they are, they know what they're capable of,

487
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Like those are the those are the winds, Like those

488
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: are the major major winds, right, you know, it's it's

489
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: it's awesome to have those interceptions and to have those moments,

490
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: and it's awesome to know that you're capable of doing that. Right,

491
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: But but did not to rest on that and say

492
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: like that was it, Like I'm in pursuit of more,

493
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: but in it's in a different space, in a broader arena. Yeah,

494
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty powerful, their marlin, because you're talking about

495
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: impact on friends, family, people in the community, and also

496
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: your teammates as well, and That's one thing I want

497
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: to talk about is I know that you talked about

498
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: earlier about doing things for yourself and going to the

499
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: high level, and you have. It's a great experience of

500
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: having those great plays. But also one of the things

501
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: as an athlete is your relationships. Your relationships in the

502
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: locker room with your teammates. That's just something special that

503
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: you remember years down the road. Now. I know you guys,

504
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: your defensive backs had a special relationship with one another

505
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room. There in the locker room is

506
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of place for the guys to kind of relax

507
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: and and do their own thing. I also know you

508
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: guys had a lot of lively debates in the locker room,

509
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: UM during your career. What are some of the debates

510
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: that you can talk about on air, UM that you

511
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: guys had in the locker room that uh brings back

512
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: some great memories for you guys. That's that's definitely, That's

513
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: definitely what I need to sit in and ripe my brain.

514
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there there's I mean a number of not

515
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: even being like you know, super deep, right, it's it's

516
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, uh, the best the best team, best basketball team.

517
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: It could be, you know, Um, shoot, I mean that's vacation,

518
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: but that's vacation spart where where were gonna go be,

519
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: go hang out? Or who's the who's the silliest, the

520
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: most liveliest, you know, person on the team you know,

521
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: and and just you know, just the camaraderie of you know,

522
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: sometimes goofing around, you know, joking, tearing guys down, but

523
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: in a fun in a fun way, you know. Um,

524
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: that's the kind of banter back and back and forth,

525
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: like you know, who who's who's gonna make Who's who's

526
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: making the most plane's like it just it could be

527
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: any any little thing, but it's a it's a part

528
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: of that competitive nature like when you are a bunch

529
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: of competitors that you know are on a mission to

530
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: be their best. That's still over into any and everything,

531
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: whether it's a card game, you know, you know, um,

532
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: it could be any anything on a on a plane

533
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: after the game, coming back, you know, and and guys

534
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: are feeling good after after a victory. You know, we're

535
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: we're we're we're gonna be hanging out at tonight, We're

536
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna be hanging out in the in the off season,

537
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: like you know, it's all of those things that definitely

538
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: is something that that is missed because I say that,

539
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't. You don't. You don't have as much as

540
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: much of that, you know, in this phase of life

541
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: of you know, family and um, parenting, you know, professional

542
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: professional world. You know, you you don't have as much

543
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: as that locker room and I don't. I don't know

544
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: if you can attested that as well, Bill, but I

545
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: spend my my experience. It's just not it's it's hard

546
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: to rekindle, recapture that those interactions that you have be

547
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: because you spend so much time with each other. Like

548
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: and this is why I can't even imagine being a

549
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: professional athlete now that I have a wife and kids.

550
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: Like the amount of time that you spend with your teammates,

551
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: especially your position group, Like you spend an absurd amount

552
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: of time together, um. And you know you don't necessarily

553
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: get that, like you Calmo trade that in a little bit.

554
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: You know that that time that you're standing with with

555
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: those guys, it's more like time with your with your

556
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: family nowadays when they talk about the volume of it,

557
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: is that what you missed most about the game, Marlin,

558
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: not necessarily the games themselves. And you know, making plays,

559
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you don't miss the practices and all

560
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: that that goes into being a professional athlete and the

561
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: demand on your time and your body. But just the

562
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: camaraderie and being with guys and having those those built

563
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: in friendships and that that brotherhood inside the locker room.

564
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: Is that is that what you miss the most about

565
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: being a cult No, it's it's it's definitely one of

566
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: one of the one of the things that I that

567
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I missed the most. Um, you know, I've always been

568
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: a problem. I have a small I have a small,

569
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: small circle. I'm a I'm a bit of an introvert,

570
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: you know. Um, you know, and I had like, you know,

571
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: guys like you know, but they in Hayden we're probably

572
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: like my two closest closest friends and still still are

573
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: good friends. And some of those like relationships whereas like

574
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: no matter what, like you you fall back into that

575
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: same space when you're when you get around one another,

576
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: you know. Um, So like missing those those relationships and

577
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: met the competition, like because I don't do anything like mom,

578
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: and competition is against myself nowadays, like so, and trying

579
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: to grow as an entrepreneur, trying to grow, grow a

580
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: business like but like me going get somebody and trying

581
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: to beat them at a task or in a game,

582
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't have that like I do

583
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: yoga where it's like it's a it's about you know,

584
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: no judgment, no competitions like so like just I do

585
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: I miss that because that part of you, I don't.

586
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: It never goes anywhere, like it's always there like you know,

587
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, and as I coach now, I guess that's

588
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: how I get my fix, my fix in terms of competition,

589
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: like you know, when a to my kids, you know,

590
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: and athletics with baseball and football, it kind of feeds

591
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: my competitive my competitive nature. I don't want to get

592
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: too competitive, but I am a competitor like you know.

593
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: And I say, anybody that's coach that gets me with

594
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: my kids, like you know, you'll you'll see it because

595
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't like to lose um And you know, I

596
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: enjoy most of like helping now, like helping kids reach

597
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: their potential and help helping people reach their potential is

598
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: altimate because you like we all you as a as

599
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: a coach, like you see something in somebody and your

600
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: job is like to try to bring it out right like,

601
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: and there's have been better than working with with young kids,

602
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: seeing the potential that they don't even know was there

603
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: and then trying to bring it, working to bring it

604
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: out of them. And I missed that in terms of

605
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: myself working to bring the best out of me in

606
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: a competitive sense with the sport. That's that's good. Moral.

607
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: Now we're probably gonna wrap it up soon, but I

608
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: do have one more question for you. You know, you

609
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: say you say you like to help people out and

610
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: and help them progress and improve and get better. Now,

611
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: if you had an opportunity to talk to the two

612
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: differentive backs the coach drafted this year, Nick Cross and

613
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas the second, what advice would you give those

614
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: two young guys coming in to the coach to start

615
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: their NFL careers, especially going to training camp and trying

616
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: to make a football team. Man, that's a that's a

617
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: good question, and I feel like I would have to, like,

618
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, divide it up and maybe to a few

619
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: categories in terms of, you know, off the fit um

620
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: in your relationships and who you have around you, UM,

621
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: giving them some advice there professionally as a as a

622
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: business you know, UM talking about assets and liabilities. Your

623
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: body is an asset and how do you go about

624
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: taking care of that? And and then I would go,

625
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, on the field, um, in terms of you know,

626
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: more most importantly the mental mental aspect of becoming a

627
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: student of the of the game UM and understanding the

628
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: things that I've mentioned during this interview down in distance,

629
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: understand the situational football right, you know, and not just

630
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: being out there relying on your physical capabilities, but marrying

631
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: your physical capabilities with your mental capacity, you know. And

632
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: for me, those are three key areas you know, of

633
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: of of NFL, of a professional athletes life, it's those

634
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: off the field relationships. Is now you as this brand,

635
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: as this entity, as an almost an independent contractor. And

636
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: then it's it's you on the field preparing yourself. Those

637
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: are the three category worry that I mentioned the other

638
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: two first because of their gettability there it makes it

639
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: a lot easier to take care of things on the field.

640
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Speaker 1: All right, last one for me, Marlin, again, you've been

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Speaker 1: so gracious with your time and it's been awesome to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you a little bit again. When you

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Speaker 1: were here every year with the Colts, you guys made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs every year four out of the five years

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Speaker 1: you won the division. You want at least twelve games

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Speaker 1: every year that you were a cult. The cults are

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Speaker 1: trying to get back to that, right, trying to win

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Speaker 1: a division for the first time since twenty fourteen, win

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Speaker 1: double digit games, get back to the playoffs. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of the current Colts, What do you think

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Speaker 1: of their makeup and just what do you think of

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Speaker 1: their prospects now with Matt Ryan at quarterback heading into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two as a Colts fan still living in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: I like it, man, I would say, first and foremost,

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Speaker 1: I like the leadership, you know, coach, right, Chris Ballard,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have in terms of the GM

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Speaker 1: head coach. We we we hit the jackpot. We had

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Speaker 1: the right people in place, and you know, I think

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Speaker 1: everybody understands that the missing piece, you know, has been

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Speaker 1: that that quarterback position and not being able to get

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Speaker 1: exactly what we need there over the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years with how things were unfolding throughout the off season,

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Speaker 1: you know, with you know, having Carson Winston plays then

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Speaker 1: you know, making that trade, then the options looking slim

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Speaker 1: that we're in the market. But then to come away

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Speaker 1: with the veteran like Matt Ryan and how he compliments

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Speaker 1: what you already have offensively and defensively. I really like it.

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Speaker 1: And then I just you know, I trust Ballard and

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Speaker 1: his ability to recognize and pick talent. So I got

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Speaker 1: like Alec Pierce, like, you know, I'm excited see what

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Speaker 1: he can do because I you know, um, there's a

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Speaker 1: It was a deep wide receiver draft, so just understanding that,

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy of his caliber was able to

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Speaker 1: fall to the coach, but really kind of an unknown

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Speaker 1: guy because I didn't know about him. But because I

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Speaker 1: trust Ballot, I know that there's something there. And when

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Speaker 1: I look at some of the highlights and I see

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Speaker 1: sixty three four three four four forty speed, I know

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Speaker 1: that the athleticism is there. Um. And then you pair

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Speaker 1: him and we got like Michael Pittman. And then when

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Speaker 1: what I hear about the possibility of name Hans more

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Speaker 1: than a slot a little bit more, I really I

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Speaker 1: really like that. And then you go out, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you get Gilly Lock, get Gilmore. You know, that

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Speaker 1: was one of the things that I I feel like

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Speaker 1: you needed a top notch you know, cornerback and to

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Speaker 1: be able to get a guy like that to come

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Speaker 1: here a pair with the linebackers. What we've done over

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Speaker 1: the last last we did last year in the draft

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Speaker 1: with the defensive position, in the interior defensive line, you know,

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Speaker 1: mixing that with the acquisition I can I can't say

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Speaker 1: his name is Away, you know, adding him to the mix.

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Speaker 1: So like you know, you having some young talent at safety,

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Speaker 1: adding to that, to that talent, you know, it's it

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Speaker 1: seemed like a complete complete roster to me, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: And you know it's now the execution most importantly from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position and understanding the strength of this offense

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Speaker 1: and playing to that strimp but being able to compliment

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Speaker 1: it with the play act and passing game, which is

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Speaker 1: one of the things that Matt Ryan does extremely well.

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Speaker 1: So I say all that to say that we're in

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Speaker 1: a great was great position, And I chuckled so often,

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Speaker 1: like as a fan now and observing fans and how

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Speaker 1: panicky fans can get, how I guess, like how quick

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Speaker 1: the judgment, like you know, we we fans lose patient

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Speaker 1: so quickly, like you know, and even sometimes I see

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Speaker 1: like people calling for for likes, you know, to be

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Speaker 1: fired or batle just like, no, come on, like, just

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Speaker 1: take a step back, take a deep breath, calm down,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the ship is going the right way.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't gotten to the destination quite yet, but you

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Speaker 1: can see clearly where the ship is going. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan is a good placeholder. But there will need

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Speaker 1: to be something done long term when it comes in

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Speaker 1: that quarterback position. Yeah, but in a good spot right now.

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Speaker 1: It's the NFL, as you know, it stands for not

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Speaker 1: for long, it's it's what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 1: It's a week to week thing, and you know you're

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Speaker 1: on one high one week and then you're in a

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Speaker 1: valley the next week, depending on how the game goes

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. But you you live that, so you understand

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Speaker 1: that full Well. That's Marlon Jackson man. It's it is

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Speaker 1: awesome to talk to you and have you back on

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Speaker 1: the airwave, so to speak, here and be a guest

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Speaker 1: on the uh This Colts Reunion podcasts. Marlin, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for the time, have a great summer coming up.

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Speaker 1: Continued success with all that you do both professionally and personally.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sosa forgetting Tob