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Speaker 3: Let's not go to the negative things first, but let's

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing that probably will come down certainly

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Speaker 4: Oh it's Buster Posey. He's a former player. He actually

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Speaker 4: fantasy baseball. Yeah, it's weird how that works. But a

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Speaker 1: I honestly aja, he could get better. He's just learning

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Speaker 1: I think he's still in that I'm with the new team.

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Speaker 1: It does tend to happen with the Giants. I don't

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Speaker 1: But you're right, he's been. The personality is off the

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Speaker 4: Who's the unsung hero on this team?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 3: Who's the guy that we don't know if we're not

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Speaker 1: Hayden Birds song for me who was in contention for

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Speaker 1: You know, guys like birds Song and Rupe have moved

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Speaker 1: I was there for the opening series. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: Is there any indication that a conversation could open up again.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go a's, go a's. I want to see it.

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Speaker 4: I want to see this, Susan. I'm in San Francisco

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Speaker 4: this weekend. Are you going to say hi to me?

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Speaker 4: That's all? Really I want to know.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how the rest of this interview goes.

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Speaker 4: AJ But we're done. So this is it.

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Speaker 4: We'll forget it. Nope, Okay, exactly what I expected to.

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Speaker 1: I love to seeing. We've got a long history.

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Speaker 4: We did. We have a very long interesting history. Good

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Speaker 4: for me, bad from what do you want me to say?

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Speaker 4: She wrote bad things about me in that Green Paper

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Speaker 4: always Susan was always fair.

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Speaker 1: I still write for the Green Paper. I just don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's a different performance. Now it's on your show.

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Speaker 3: I've told her.

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Speaker 4: Many times I appreciate it. She was always fair to me.

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Speaker 4: She wrote something, she would come ask me about it,

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Speaker 4: If you're going to write something about me, give me

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Speaker 4: And if you want to write a bad article about me,

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Speaker 1: It was fun you and those A's teams, the Hudson

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Speaker 4: That's yes, we did, and we ended Moneyball season. So

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Speaker 4: I need a movie, thank you?

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Speaker 1: That would be kind of fun. Actually i'd watched that.

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Speaker 4: Listen if they made a movie about me, and a

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Speaker 2: So they're going to make a sequel one day because

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Speaker 2: they're going to be like they never won anything and

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Speaker 2: they have the biggest disaster, travel whatever you want to

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Speaker 2: So it was not all Roses. All the people that

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Speaker 4: Buy me garlic fries this weekend. How's that on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: I think the other way around.

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Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, yeah, yeah. I checked both both

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Speaker 2: baseball reference pages for salaries, and I feel like, hey,

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Speaker 2: ja's got your back.

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Speaker 1: Francisco Chronicle listed there.

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Speaker 2: No, no, it was, it was not listed, and I

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Speaker 4: We'll get the.

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Speaker 2: Report from AJ after you see you this weekend. But

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Speaker 1: Fantastic things guys.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, we're only four weeks into the

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Speaker 4: That's amazing what she just said. By the way, it

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Speaker 4: is that is amazing what she just said. That they

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Speaker 4: should go cras When do you think about that? They're like,

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Speaker 4: maybe we should go back to Oakland after all the

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Speaker 3: At No that I don't know. I don't I don't

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Speaker 2: They've they made a mistake by doing business with the devil,

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Speaker 2: and this is definitely going to hurt them because they're

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Speaker 2: going to look at these numbers and be like, we

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things where it's like it could

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Speaker 4: But they also didn't brand with Sacramento. That was one

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Speaker 2: Let me give everyone a little advice from someone who

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Speaker 4: Oh TV shirt?

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Speaker 2: No higher than that, that's that's up there, but higher

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Speaker 2: There is a number one factor. They start there and

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Speaker 3: It's a fact.

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Speaker 4: To tell you that you also get one shot and

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