Speaker 1: Coozone Media.
Speaker 2: On May twenty sixth, twenty twenty, a U. S. Army
Speaker 2: private stationed in Italy celebrated his twenty second birthday. He
Speaker 2: was blissfully unaware that the FBI had spent that day
Speaker 2: confirming his identity as the Nazi Satanist who was trying
Speaker 2: to get Al Qaeda to wipe out his entire unit.
Speaker 1: Half a world away.
Speaker 2: That very same day, Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt
Speaker 2: on an unarmed man's neck for nine minutes. In twenty
Speaker 2: nine seconds, the man cried out, saying.
Speaker 1: He couldn't breathe.
Speaker 2: He begged the officer not to kill him. He cried
Speaker 2: out for his mother, and then he fell silent. The
Speaker 2: murder of George Floyd was caught on camera by a
Speaker 2: bystander in Protests against this act of police brutality started
Speaker 2: within hours in the Minneapolis area. The video spread rapidly,
Speaker 2: and so did the protests. In the months that followed,
Speaker 2: protest marches, rallies, and memorials were held in thousands of cities,
Speaker 2: reaching every state in the country and dozens of countries
Speaker 2: around the world. Millions of Americans took to the streets
Speaker 2: and public squares to protest police brutality, and in countless cities,
Speaker 2: the police responded by demonstrating the very brutality that people
Speaker 2: were protesting. Three days after the murder, then President Donald
Speaker 2: Trump tweeted, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. By Monday,
Speaker 2: June first, less than a week after George Floyd's murder,
Speaker 2: the president was publicly threatening to invoke the Insurrection Act,
Speaker 2: which would allow him to use the military to put
Speaker 2: down civil disorder. Governors in more than thirty states activated
Speaker 2: the National Guard to assist state and local police in
Speaker 2: responding to the protests. Governors in twelve states deployed National
Speaker 2: Guard troops to Washington, d C. At the request of
Speaker 2: the Pentagon. On June second, a hundred members of the
Speaker 2: Ohio National Guard received orders that they'd be heading to
Speaker 2: the nation's capital that afternoon. The administrator of a small
Speaker 2: telegram channel for fans of a fascist YouTuber posted, they
Speaker 2: activated my unit and were getting real ammunition to shoot
Speaker 2: and kill.
Speaker 1: He ended the message by.
Speaker 2: Saying rahoa a portmanteau of the phrase racial holy war,
Speaker 2: a Nazi rallying cry. He told his followers that they
Speaker 2: may not hear from him again, but they might hear
Speaker 2: about him in the news. Some urged him not to
Speaker 2: do anything stupid, others egged him on, telling him he
Speaker 2: should accelerate the collapse. They were thrilled at the possibility
Speaker 2: that full scale civil conflict could be incited by shooting
Speaker 2: into the crowd of protesters in Washington, d C. Maybe
Speaker 2: the race war really was about to begin. Whether he
Speaker 2: was just ship posting, or if he really was considering
Speaker 2: kicking off the race war.
Speaker 1: We'll never know.
Speaker 2: If we're to take him at his word, always a
Speaker 2: shaky proposition. He was deployed with his National Guard unit
Speaker 2: at Lafayette Park just outside the White House when FBI
Speaker 2: agents from the Joint Terrorism Task Force showed up to
Speaker 2: have a chat. Soon after, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine announced
Speaker 2: that one of the National guardsmen he'd sent to DC
Speaker 2: was being called back. On June fifth, twenty twenty, Governor
Speaker 2: de Wine tweeted, I.
Speaker 3: Want to take a moment to address a situation regarding
Speaker 3: a member of the Ohio National Guard who was removed
Speaker 3: from the mission in Washington, d C. After the FBI
Speaker 3: uncovered information that this guardsman expressed white supremacist ideology on
Speaker 3: the Internet prior to the assignment.
Speaker 2: He didn't name the guardsman in question, and no explanation
Speaker 2: was offered about what exactly had been said, where it
Speaker 2: was said, or how the FBI came to see it.
Speaker 2: Jared Holt at right Wing Watch uncovered the small telegram
Speaker 2: channel where those comments had been made a few days later,
Speaker 2: and journalists at the nonprofit media collective Unicorn Riot quickly
Speaker 2: identified the man in question as Shandon Simpson, a former
Speaker 2: member of the now defunct neo Nazi organization Vanguard America,
Speaker 2: who had been photographed standing shoulder to shoulder with James
Speaker 2: Alex Fields Junior at the United the Right rally in
Speaker 2: Charlettsville in twenty seventeen, just hours before Fields committed a
Speaker 2: hate crime murder. But that still didn't explain why the
Speaker 2: governor of Ohio was making public statements about an FBI
Speaker 2: investigation into this guardsman, especially considering no charges had been filed.
Speaker 2: Simpson claims he was held in solitary confinement for a week,
Speaker 2: but the Ohio National Guard has disputed that claim. He
Speaker 2: was never charged with a crime and later received a
Speaker 2: general discharge from the National Guard. It wasn't until a
Speaker 2: federal criminal case against Ethan Melzer was unsealed two weeks
Speaker 2: later that the pieces fell into place. They hadn't been
Speaker 2: investigating Shandon Simpson at all. They just happened to come
Speaker 2: across his posts about murdering protesters in Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: While they were investigating.
Speaker 2: Someone else's plot to murder an entire platoon of United
Speaker 2: States Army paratroopers five thousand miles away. I'm Molly Conger
Speaker 2: in this is weird, Little Guys. This episode is coming
Speaker 2: out on Halloween. That didn't occur to me until halfway
Speaker 2: through the week. I don't have a great sense of
Speaker 2: even under the best of circumstances. But when I realized that,
Speaker 2: I ditch what I was working on and tried to
Speaker 2: come up with something halloweeny. I think that's something people
Speaker 2: do right. I should have seasonal themed episodes. But what
Speaker 2: does it mean to do a Halloween episode of a
Speaker 2: show where every episode is about a monster? How can
Speaker 2: you go spookier than we already are getting every week?
Speaker 4: But then I.
Speaker 2: Realized what's scarier and Satan himself. This story has all
Speaker 2: the classic weird little guy stuff. It's got neo Nazis,
Speaker 2: it's got white supremacist troops. It's got hate groups splintering
Speaker 2: off into new hate groups because of our cane interna scene,
Speaker 2: ideological squabbles and power struggles and personal beefs. It's got
Speaker 2: a foiled terror plot, and a court record full of
Speaker 2: peerful letters from friends and family insisting that the young
Speaker 2: man they know really isn't as bad as you think.
Speaker 2: But this episode is a little different because the evil
Speaker 2: guys were talking about aren't shying away from that label.
Speaker 2: They want you to think they're evil. They're devil worshiping,
Speaker 2: neo Nazis, hell bent on ending life as we know it.
Speaker 2: This episode is not about Shandon Simpson. Don't worry, Shandon.
Speaker 2: Today is not your day. When I met Shandon last year,
Speaker 2: while I was covering a pro Russia rally masquerading as
Speaker 2: an anti war protest at the Lincoln Memorial, he denied
Speaker 2: ever having been a member of Adam Waffen or any
Speaker 2: related groups. Now, personally, I don't think he was telling
Speaker 2: me the truth, but it's not exactly easy to prove
Speaker 2: someone was a member of a secret of organization, and
Speaker 2: he's never been charged with anything, So I guess we'll
Speaker 2: just have to agree to disagree, but it can be
Speaker 2: said without dispute that Shandon Simpson was a member of
Speaker 2: a telegram channel for a group called rape Waffen. Yes,
Speaker 2: rape Waffen. I'm so sorry because that's what we're talking
Speaker 2: about today. And just a quick note at the top,
Speaker 2: this show doesn't have content warnings because it's always about
Speaker 2: something bad. I don't want to get into the discourse
Speaker 2: about content warnings. They certainly have their place, but this
Speaker 2: show is never not going to be about violence, and
Speaker 2: it would be redundant to mention it every time.
Speaker 1: But the particular.
Speaker 2: Subsect of Nazi Satanists we're talking about today are really
Speaker 2: really obsessed with sexual violence. I'm going to use the
Speaker 2: word rape a lot, but there aren't any descriptions of
Speaker 2: anyone actually being sexually assaulted. A few side characters do
Speaker 2: commit some sexual assaults, and we're found to possess child
Speaker 2: sexual abuse material, but we won't dwell on it in
Speaker 2: any kind of detail. But here's your exit ramp if
Speaker 2: you just aren't in the mood to hear me say
Speaker 2: the word rape thirty or forty times. The fact that
Speaker 2: Shandon Simpson was a member of the rape Waffen telegram
Speaker 2: channel is again undisputed. He said it himself.
Speaker 1: For what it's worth.
Speaker 2: Simpson has claimed that he was only a member of
Speaker 2: the chat because he was documenting the malevolent influence of
Speaker 2: Satanism on the fascist movement, which sounds incredibly stupid, but honestly,
Speaker 2: that might be the truth. And I'm not just saying
Speaker 2: that because he has threatened to sue me for merely
Speaker 2: repeating what was published by the Washington Post, which is
Speaker 2: that he was a member of rape Waffen. He takes
Speaker 2: issue with the implication that he was an ideological adherent
Speaker 2: of the group's satanic beliefs. He insists that being a
Speaker 2: member of the channel, which he again doesn't deny, doesn't
Speaker 2: mean he was a member of the group. I can
Speaker 2: kind of see that that might be true, but that's
Speaker 2: a distinction without a difference. To me, he was a
Speaker 2: member of Rapewaffen the Telegram Channel, but he insists he
Speaker 2: was not a member of rape Waffen.
Speaker 3: The group.
Speaker 2: Do without what you will, and this allegation got new
Speaker 2: life a few months ago when he was making a
Speaker 2: scene outside the Democratic National Convention with a Hesbula flag.
Speaker 2: Videos of him antagonizing people outside the venue got some
Speaker 2: traction online and people recognized him as a Nazi we've
Speaker 2: seen before, and that two year old Washington Post article
Speaker 2: about him started circulating again.
Speaker 1: So stupid games, stupid brizes, etc.
Speaker 2: Take it up with Jeff Bezos, I guess, and in
Speaker 2: his defense, to the degree I'm interested in such a thing,
Speaker 2: He did co author a document in twenty eighteen, two
Speaker 2: years before he was outed as a member of the
Speaker 2: Rape Waffen chat with another former member of Adam Waffen
Speaker 2: outlining the ways in which they felt the movement was
Speaker 2: being damaged by influential Adam Woffen member John Cameron Denton's
Speaker 2: embrace of Satanism. So maybe he was just in there
Speaker 2: collecting evidence. Who can really say. It's not like it
Speaker 2: really clears his name to say, you know, hey, I
Speaker 2: didn't have a huge issue with the Nazi stuff or
Speaker 2: the murders, but this blood magic devil thing is taking
Speaker 2: it in a bad direction.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I said, this episode is not about Shandon Simpson, and
Speaker 2: it's not don't worry. But this ideological split within the
Speaker 2: Nazi terrorism enthusiast community over whether or not Satanism was
Speaker 2: cool is an important bit of context for where we're.
Speaker 4: Going, I promise.
Speaker 2: Rapewaffen was one of the groups to crop up during
Speaker 2: this period of conflict within Adam Woffen about the growing
Speaker 2: influence within the group of the Order of Nine Angles,
Speaker 2: a militant Satanist occult organization that insists it isn't a
Speaker 2: Nazi group. It is hard to describe the Order of
Speaker 2: Nine Angles ONA for short, in a way that makes
Speaker 2: any sense, and that's intentional, I mean, quite literally, beyond
Speaker 2: the usual sort of esoteric nature of occult groups. Writings
Speaker 2: attributed to ONA invented a concept called Labyrinthos mythologicus. The
Speaker 2: idea is that the writings are intentionally contradictory, bordering on
Speaker 2: incomprehensible on purpose, and their true meaning is only legible
Speaker 2: to those who are worthy of interpreting them. So if
Speaker 2: you don't get it, that's because you aren't meant to.
Speaker 2: Because of ona's decentralized, leaderless structure, all members are self
Speaker 2: initiated to join the Order of Nine Angles, you have
Speaker 2: to figure it out on your own. The texts are available,
Speaker 2: but the true process, apparently is only revealed to you
Speaker 2: in the course of performing the ritual of self initiation.
Speaker 2: Part of the self initiation ritual involves walking into a
Speaker 2: river and imagining the moon's energy flowing into you, which
Speaker 2: sounds like a fine way to spend an evening. But
Speaker 2: it's not all moonlight skinny dipping. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: carving swastikas into your own arm with the razor blade
Speaker 2: and then smearing your blood all over a magical race
Speaker 2: war manifesto. I know, I know, these are Nazi wizards
Speaker 2: and they're doing blood magic to conjure demons to end
Speaker 2: the world. This is worse than the fact that the
Speaker 2: clan calls their chapters claverns, and the secretary of a
Speaker 2: clavern is called a cli wrap. It's so frustrating that
Speaker 2: these scary murderers all sound like fucking dorks for all
Speaker 2: the trappings of wizardry, though it might help to just
Speaker 2: think of them like any other kind of accelerationists. We've
Speaker 2: talked a lot about accelerationists in other episodes.
Speaker 1: They want to.
Speaker 2: Destabilize society and force it into a collapse so that
Speaker 2: something new can be born, just like any right wing
Speaker 2: extremists taking shots at an electrical transformer. All this extra
Speaker 2: stuff about how they believe that collapse paves the way
Speaker 2: for the return of a messianic figure called Vindex, who
Speaker 2: will usher in a new social order called the Imperium,
Speaker 2: during which a new superior race of humans will evolve
Speaker 2: and these new areans will colonize the galaxy. It's not important.
Speaker 2: It absolutely does not impact your ability to follow this
Speaker 2: story to know more about Nazi Jesus taking the Hitler
Speaker 2: Wizards to space. Quite frankly, I refuse to find out
Speaker 2: more information about the Galactic Imperium. It sounds too stupid.
Speaker 2: In the end, I guess every cult ends up in space.
Speaker 2: You dig deep enough into just about any cult they're
Speaker 2: going to space, And like I said, it's.
Speaker 1: Confusing on purpose.
Speaker 2: You could drive yourself to madness trying to parse out
Speaker 2: what's a metaphor what's a joke, what's intentional obfuscation in
Speaker 2: the spirit of the sinister dialectic, what someone actually believes
Speaker 2: or what they're only pretending to believe. In one telegram
Speaker 2: message from a rape Waffen member, the poster jokes that
Speaker 2: if a federal agent is reading his private messages quote,
Speaker 2: he has to read through hella esoteric conversation and probably
Speaker 2: still doesn't even understand it and I'm not a federal agent,
Speaker 2: but I did read through some of those chats, and
Speaker 2: I gotta say he's right. It was hella esoteric, and
Speaker 2: I didn't get all of it. And that's fine, because
Speaker 2: in the end, all you can really judge them by
Speaker 2: is their actions and their impact. Whether or not they
Speaker 2: truly believe the demonic entity index is going to incarnate
Speaker 2: in human form and bring about the imperium, it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: So for as much time as I spent reading every
Speaker 2: available academic paper on the subject, which is surprisingly few, actually,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure it's going to do much good for
Speaker 2: me to explain more about the a causal realm. I'm
Speaker 2: sorry to any of the cool wizards in the listening audience,
Speaker 2: some of you are very nice people, but my general
Speaker 2: feeling about the ways in which magic and religion exist
Speaker 2: as driving forces in history is that it doesn't really
Speaker 2: matter what's real. If someone sincerely believes that they are
Speaker 2: practicing magic by engaging in ritual acts that in turn
Speaker 2: have a real world impact, you know, like an act
Speaker 2: of terrorism, What does it mean to say the magic
Speaker 2: isn't real? Does it matter if a spirit was really
Speaker 2: summoned to aid in this act if in the end
Speaker 2: it still happened. And I say that not because I
Speaker 2: think any of you are listening to this on your
Speaker 2: drive to work and asking yourself, oh, are they really
Speaker 2: communing with Satanic deities on another plane of existence? I
Speaker 2: don't really think many of you are asking yourselves that,
Speaker 2: but a lot of you might be asking yourself, do
Speaker 2: they really believe they are doing that?
Speaker 1: And I think the answer is the same. Does it matter.
Speaker 2: If they're only pretending to believe it? But it's still
Speaker 2: God the way they operate in this realm, you know,
Speaker 2: the real world. What difference does it make if I
Speaker 2: punched you in the face and then said, oh, I
Speaker 2: was only pretending I wanted to hurt you. Does that
Speaker 2: change the fact that your nose is bleeding? And as
Speaker 2: for the claims in some owner writings that the group
Speaker 2: is not inherently committed to neo Nazi or fascist ideologies.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the same answer.
Speaker 2: Adherents have claimed that their fondness for Nazi ideology is
Speaker 2: simply a manifestation of a core principle of left hand
Speaker 2: path magic, that is, to be intentionally transgressive and provocative,
Speaker 2: to engage in the most taboo possible behavior, and to
Speaker 2: violate all conceivable social norms. These are things that make
Speaker 2: your magic more potent. There are ono techs that explicitly
Speaker 2: encourage the magical practitioner to adopt things like neo Nazi ideology,
Speaker 2: not because they believe it, but because it is part
Speaker 2: of this sinister strategy, and it will hasten the revolution
Speaker 2: required to bring about the imperium. And you know, you
Speaker 2: can tell me you don't actually believe the Nazi stuff
Speaker 2: you're saying. But if you're saying Nazi stuff, and you're
Speaker 2: doing Nazi stuff and your goal is for a demonic
Speaker 2: messiah to wipe out the Jews, your group is a
Speaker 2: Nazi group. If you think a supernatural entity is going
Speaker 2: to return to cleanse the world of subhumans to clear
Speaker 2: the path for a new aryan race, that's Nazi stuff,
Speaker 2: no matter how you've tried to obscure that in your
Speaker 2: weird little texts. There is, of course the obvious point
Speaker 2: that the Order of Nine Angles was for decades led
Speaker 2: by a British Nazi named David Mayat. Mayat is a
Speaker 2: strange and mysterious figure for another day, but it's worth
Speaker 2: pointing out that he was also a found member of
Speaker 2: Combat eighteen, a UK based Nazi terrorist organization originally formed
Speaker 2: to act as the violent arm of the British National Party.
Speaker 2: Harold Covington, another Weird Little Guy's recurring character, was also
Speaker 2: instrumental in forming Combat eighteen before he returned home to
Speaker 2: the US to try to get an Ethno state going
Speaker 2: in Idaho and one of Ona's more prolific authors under
Speaker 2: the pen name AA Moraine, was an English Nazi named
Speaker 2: Ryan Fleming. When he wasn't writing esoteric Nazi wizard books,
Speaker 2: Fleming was a regional organizer for the UK based terrorist
Speaker 2: organization National Action, and a pedophile in his spare time.
Speaker 2: He was arrested again in twenty twenty one after violating
Speaker 2: a court order that prohibited him from having unsupervised contact
Speaker 2: with miners. The court order was put in place after
Speaker 2: his conviction in twenty seventeen for sexually abusing a fourteen
Speaker 2: year old girl he met on Facebook, and a conviction
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen for imprisoning and sexually abusing a teenage boy.
Speaker 2: He served twenty two months for the first sex crime
Speaker 2: against a child and three years for the second one.
Speaker 2: When he was arrested for trying to do it a
Speaker 2: third time. He got six months, which means he must
Speaker 2: be out and about now. But I couldn't find any
Speaker 2: more recent news coverage. In the course of researching for
Speaker 2: this show, I read a lot of material that I
Speaker 2: do not enjoy. But I did not force myself to
Speaker 2: read this pedophile's wizard books. I just I didn't do it.
Speaker 2: I didn't do it this week. I'm not sure what
Speaker 2: it would have added. I'm kind of a completionist. I
Speaker 2: thought about it, but I didn't. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there are some really exciting passages in his book Sithane
Speaker 2: Vampiric Witchcraft of the Dracon Covenant, and honestly this description
Speaker 2: of Codex Aristarkus is a little temping.
Speaker 3: From the bloodstained moors of West Yorkshire, England comes a
Speaker 3: genuinely a moral vampiric praxis, melding the black arts of
Speaker 3: predatory astral vampirism with a harsh ordeal based approach of
Speaker 3: the sinister sevenfold way. In Codex Aristarchus, AA Moran presents
Speaker 3: the definitive collective works of the Dracon Covenant, including vampiric theory,
Speaker 3: rights and methods by which the reader themselves can step
Speaker 3: upon the black path of the vamporee, feeding upon the
Speaker 3: human herd, and taking the treacherous road to confrontation with
Speaker 3: the bleak, ascended masters the undead.
Speaker 1: Okay, I did, I did?
Speaker 2: I downloaded a copy of it, so I do have
Speaker 2: a copy of Codex Aristarchus. Maybe I'll let you know
Speaker 2: next week if I found out if vampires were real.
Speaker 2: My point is a lot of Nazi perverts are doing
Speaker 2: magical rituals, and all of a sudden, these influential figures
Speaker 2: within Adam Woffin are really encouraging it. So in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: this move towards Satanism was a big point of contention
Speaker 2: within the Accelerationist community. In twenty seventeen, Adam Woffin's founder,
Speaker 2: Brandon Russell went to prison. He's back in prison now
Speaker 2: for something else. This was a different thing. It's come
Speaker 2: up a few times in other episodes. This was kind
Speaker 2: of a big moment in modern Nazi history, I guess.
Speaker 2: But Brandon Russell's roommate, Devin Arthur's had murdered their other
Speaker 2: two roommates. Devin Arthur's conversion to Islam shortly before these
Speaker 2: murders is often misunderstood as evidence that he was getting
Speaker 2: out of Nazism, because why would a racist convert to Islam?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But I think this conversation about this strange syncretism is
Speaker 2: better left for another day. I will, eventually, I promise,
Speaker 2: do an episode about the Hitler loving d C transit
Speaker 2: cop who went to prison for sending gift cards to Isis.
Speaker 2: But suffice it to say for now, there is absolutely
Speaker 2: no contradiction inherent in an American neo Nazi getting really
Speaker 2: interested in the violent side of Islamic extremism, up to
Speaker 2: and including converting to Islam. So after Devin Arthur's told
Speaker 2: the police that he had murdered Jeremy Himmelman and Andrew Onishuk,
Speaker 2: the cop searched the home that they'd all shared with
Speaker 2: Brandon Russell. The police found the dead bodies of two
Speaker 2: Adam Waffen members, obviously, but they also found Brandon Russell's
Speaker 2: bomb making supplies, so he was down for the count
Speaker 2: for a while, and in his absence, John Cameron Denton
Speaker 2: was among those Adam Waffen members whose influence grew within
Speaker 2: Adam Woffin. Denton used the pseudonym rape just rape. That's
Speaker 2: what he was called. They called him rape, and based
Speaker 2: on his Internet footprint, Denton had been involved with the
Speaker 2: Order of Nine Angles for several years already, and within
Speaker 2: Adam Woffin he quickly became a protege of James Mason,
Speaker 2: the elderly pedophile who served as the ideological adviser for
Speaker 2: Adam Woffin from its earliest days.
Speaker 1: James Mason is the.
Speaker 2: Author of Siege, the terrorist's handbook that was Adam Woffin's
Speaker 2: most important text, but he's also been to jail several
Speaker 2: times for possessing pornographic photographs of underage girls, sexual exploitation
Speaker 2: of a miner, and threatening his underage girlfriend with a gun.
Speaker 2: His fondness for blowing up the power grid is rivaled
Speaker 2: only by his love of fifteen year old girls. He
Speaker 2: still regularly receives Nazi admirers at his home in Colorado,
Speaker 2: and when Adam Woaffin was at its height, making the
Speaker 2: trip out to see Mason was a pretty big deal,
Speaker 2: and of course every member of Adam Woffin had to
Speaker 2: read Siege, that sprawling collection of essays advocating for various
Speaker 2: ways and aspiring young terrorist might kick off.
Speaker 1: The Race War.
Speaker 2: Mason wrote Siege as a newsletter throughout the early to
Speaker 2: mid eighties. The essays were collected and published in book
Speaker 2: form in the early nineties, but it wasn't until twenty
Speaker 2: years later that the book really exploded onto the scene.
Speaker 2: I guess that's a bad choice of words given the
Speaker 2: amount of bombs built by guys who read it. But
Speaker 2: what I mean is it didn't become as popular as
Speaker 2: it is now until it was reborn as a PDF
Speaker 2: on the pages of the Iron March Forum in the
Speaker 2: early twenty tens, and that's where Adam Woffin was born.
Speaker 1: In the years.
Speaker 2: Since, Siege has been updated, revised, and republished several times
Speaker 2: under the pseudonym Vincent Snyder. John Cameron Denton edited the
Speaker 2: fourth edition of Siege, adding a new final chapter and
Speaker 2: updating the artwork with the help of Canadian neo Nazi
Speaker 2: and graphic designer Patrick Gordon McDonald. Before McDonald was identified
Speaker 2: by Vice News in twenty twenty one, he was known
Speaker 2: only as Dark Foreigner. Like Denton, McDonald has deep connections
Speaker 2: to the Order of Nine Angles, and if you've ever
Speaker 2: seen almost any propaganda from groups like Adam Waffen, the
Speaker 2: Order of Nine Angle, Sonnen Kreig Division, the Bass or
Speaker 2: any of these other little offshoots in that milieu. You
Speaker 2: have almost certainly seen Dark Foreigner's artwork. He was prolific.
Speaker 2: He set the tone, he set the style. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine he's still making the artwork for these kinds of groups,
Speaker 2: but the style remains, and his style greatly influenced the
Speaker 2: online culture around Saint worship, which we talked about in
Speaker 2: the Teogram episode. A lot of the images circulating on
Speaker 2: telegram in the early days of forming this culture around
Speaker 2: the canonization of mass murderers were images made by Patrick MacDonald.
Speaker 2: McDonald was arrested in Canada last year for facilitating terrorist activity.
Speaker 2: And it was during this time period that Adam Woffen
Speaker 2: was splintering, spinning off a variety of related groups like
Speaker 2: Sunnin Kreeg Division, feuer Krieg Division, the Northern Order for
Speaker 2: Harshoft Division, and of course Rapewaffen, and a lot of
Speaker 2: these groups, like Adam Woffin at the time, are deeply
Speaker 2: steeped in the beliefs of the Order of Nine Angles,
Speaker 2: and it was within this rape Waffen telegram chat that
Speaker 2: we finally find the subject of this story US Army
Speaker 2: private Ethan Pheelin Melzer.
Speaker 1: He was arrested three days.
Speaker 2: After his twenty second birthday and a few days before
Speaker 2: he planned to die alongside fort day other soldiers in
Speaker 2: an attack he hoped al Qaida would carry out based
Speaker 2: on classified military information he'd provided. He was hoping it
Speaker 2: would start a war. There is always going to be
Speaker 2: disagreement about whether a group is or isn't a splinter
Speaker 2: faction or a sub sect of some ideological predecessor. In
Speaker 2: some cases, there's a question of whether a group even
Speaker 2: really existed at all, or if it was just a
Speaker 2: chat room for a particular click within another organization, or
Speaker 2: if it was just a meme. There are probably not
Speaker 2: more than a few dozen researchers out there who know
Speaker 2: enough about this particular moment in time that, if they're
Speaker 2: listening to this, are shaking their heads in dismay at
Speaker 2: my characterization of some detail or another. But it's as
Speaker 2: close as we're going to get short of a dissertation,
Speaker 2: So good enough, because it's difficult now years later to
Speaker 2: piece back together the scraps of archived materials from these
Speaker 2: banned chat rooms to sort out what rape Waffen, ever,
Speaker 2: really was the earliest remnants I can find of rape
Speaker 2: Waffen date back to the summer of twenty nineteen, but
Speaker 2: I really wouldn't be surprised if someone produced to me
Speaker 2: evidence that it existed in private chats. For months prior
Speaker 2: to that, the group's telegram channels were banned at various points,
Speaker 2: forcing them to reinvent themselves over and over again, sometimes
Speaker 2: forming new channels every couple of weeks. The channel's administrator
Speaker 2: was explicit in stating that rape Waffen was a splinter
Speaker 2: from Adam Woffen, and in every online space where rape
Speaker 2: Waffen members were posting, their involvement in and support for
Speaker 2: the Order of Nine Angles was terribly explicit in every
Speaker 2: sense of the word. And so as Adam Woffin is
Speaker 2: falling apart over this debate, rape Waffen is taking a
Speaker 2: boldly pro Satanism stance and they claim to have nexxions,
Speaker 2: which is the on a term for a cell in
Speaker 2: the United States, Canada, Australia, Russia, Portugal and other unlisted countries.
Speaker 2: In November of twenty nineteen, a channel that was just
Speaker 2: called rape in all caps posted that rape Waffen was
Speaker 2: once again open for recruiting. The same week that channel posted,
Speaker 2: among other things, instructions for making meth, a message that
Speaker 2: can't be viewed because it was found to violate the law,
Speaker 2: and the statement quote we need to bring this world
Speaker 2: to total chaos. If we want to change something, we
Speaker 2: will do this through mass rape of infidels. In the chat,
Speaker 2: members shared videos of women being raped, as well as
Speaker 2: more standard accelerationist fair you know, gore videos, footage of
Speaker 2: atrocities committed in Wars, mass shooting, live streams, isis, beheading videos, the.
Speaker 1: Usual things like that.
Speaker 2: And if I haven't mentioned it yet in some other episode,
Speaker 2: I would like to say, you don't need to try
Speaker 2: to find these things. I can't stop you. I'm not
Speaker 2: telling you what to do.
Speaker 1: I'm not your.
Speaker 2: Boss or your mom, but I'm telling you you don't
Speaker 2: have to.
Speaker 1: These chats.
Speaker 2: In particular, you probably wouldn't be able to find. They're
Speaker 2: gone for the most part. But in general, I know
Speaker 2: that curiosity can be a very powerful thing. But unless
Speaker 2: this is a particular area of research for you in
Speaker 2: a professional or academic capacit, there's really nothing to gain
Speaker 2: from trying to see it for yourself.
Speaker 1: I promise you.
Speaker 2: Having the ability to quickly scroll past a GIF of
Speaker 2: a woman being shot in the head and having the involuntary,
Speaker 2: instant reaction of categorizing that as the final moments of
Speaker 2: a particular person's life from a particular video that I
Speaker 2: wish i'd never seen, is not a skill I wanted.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I have to close the chat and pull up
Speaker 2: a picture of what that woman looked like when she
Speaker 2: was alive, smiling, because she wasn't a GIF. She wasn't
Speaker 2: just the moment of her death. She was a young
Speaker 2: woman trying to make a life for herself. I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to gatekeep Nazi gore videos or whatever. I just
Speaker 2: want you to know you don't need to see them
Speaker 2: if it helps it all. If this is something that
Speaker 2: you need, you have my permission to not find out more.
Speaker 2: There's no valor in making yourself sick. And these chat
Speaker 2: rooms can be really disturbing places. So if hopefully you're
Speaker 2: not familiar with the messaging app Telegram, there are both
Speaker 2: chats and channels. That is, there are spaces on Telegram
Speaker 2: where only the channel owner can post, and you can
Speaker 2: subscribe to see their posts, and there are also chat
Speaker 2: rooms where every member can post messages and have conversations
Speaker 2: with one another. I don't know if I could possibly
Speaker 2: have explained that in a way that sounded more elderly.
Speaker 2: I do know how to use the Internet, I promise,
Speaker 2: and the channel administrator for most of these official rape
Speaker 2: Waffen channels with someone using the names Sinisterius or Sinistrous Rape.
Speaker 2: The member chat, however, was run by a user called
Speaker 2: Sinister Noctulian. Noctulian is a practitioner within this particular subset
Speaker 2: of being a Nazi wizard. In all my research, through
Speaker 2: court documents and publicly available research and reporting, the only
Speaker 2: two people ever concretely identified as having been members of
Speaker 2: rape Waffen chats and channels on Telegram were Ethan Melzer
Speaker 2: and Shandon Simpson. So I can't tell you with any
Speaker 2: certainty who Sinister Noctulian could be. It wasn't either of them.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Ethan or Shandon. But I can tell you,
Speaker 2: without implying anything in particular, that it is interesting to
Speaker 2: me that Sinister Noctulian never posted in the chat again
Speaker 2: after January tenth, twenty twenty, which, in a strange coincidence,
Speaker 2: is the same day that Adam Waffen member John Kirby
Speaker 2: Kelly was arrested by the FBI. Two days later, a
Speaker 2: message from Sinister Noctulian was forwarded by another user into
Speaker 2: the rape Waffen channel. Now the archive is so fragmented,
Speaker 2: you know, collecting these broken links and old screenshots from
Speaker 2: the internet's darkest corners, so it isn't one hundred percent
Speaker 2: clear to me where the message was originally posted. It
Speaker 2: may have been a private message that the recipient then
Speaker 2: forwarded to a broader audience. But on January twelfth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two days after John Kirby Kelly was arrested, the
Speaker 2: user called sinister Noctulian sent a message to someone on
Speaker 2: telegram and it said in jail loll snuck my cell in.
Speaker 2: And the message was accompanied by a one second long
Speaker 2: video showing the inside of a jail cell and the
Speaker 2: camera sort of pans shakily and quickly over the legs
Speaker 2: of the person holding the cell phone. They're lying on
Speaker 2: the cot in the set well, and they appear to
Speaker 2: be wearing the blue disposable scrubs that jails put on
Speaker 2: prisoners when they transport them from one facility to another.
Speaker 2: I think the idea is that the uniform belongs to
Speaker 2: the jail, and so if you go to a different jail,
Speaker 2: the first jail doesn't want to lose that uniform. The
Speaker 2: point is, we don't know who Sinister Noctulian is, but
Speaker 2: if anyone is familiar with what the segregation cells inside
Speaker 2: the Alexandria City Jail look like. I did try to
Speaker 2: find images online, but there aren't a lot of pictures
Speaker 2: of the insides of jail cells. But he was arrested
Speaker 2: in Alexandria, and the jail in Northern Virginia that has
Speaker 2: the contract with the federal prison system to hold detainees
Speaker 2: would probably be the Alexandria City Jail. So if you
Speaker 2: know what the inside of those cells look like, let
Speaker 2: me know.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: And in this constant cycle of death and rebirth of
Speaker 2: these chats, a new telegram channel was formed in March
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty, and this time the channel administrator was
Speaker 2: a user called iron Cult. The channel announced the following month,
Speaker 2: in April, that sinistress Rape would be taking an indefinite hiatus. Again,
Speaker 2: it's hard to say who sinistrous Rape might have been,
Speaker 2: but I will just note in an unrelated fashion that
Speaker 2: John Cameron Denton rape himself, was arrested in February of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, along with Adam Woffin members Johnny Garza, Cameron Shay, Taylor,
Speaker 2: Parker de Pepe, and Caleb Cole, and the channel that
Speaker 2: was formed after Denton's arrest didn't last long either. It
Speaker 2: was abandoned within weeks after Adam Woffen member Timothy Wilson
Speaker 2: was killed in a shootout with the FBI while they
Speaker 2: were trying to arrest him while he was trying to
Speaker 2: blow up a hospital in Missouri. And Wilson had only
Speaker 2: come under investigation because his name came up after the
Speaker 2: arrest of Jarrett Smith, soldier stationed in Kansas, who was
Speaker 2: arrested in twenty nineteen for distributing information to other Adam
Speaker 2: Waffen members about how to create weapons of mass destruction.
Speaker 2: Jarrett Smith, too was a member of Adam Woffin and
Speaker 2: a Satanist. A new Rapewaffen channel was formed a few
Speaker 2: days after Timothy Wilson's death. One of the first posts
Speaker 2: was a recipe for a bomb. There's no clear evidence
Speaker 2: that was ever produced in any of these cases that
Speaker 2: would let me tell you with certainty that any of
Speaker 2: those adam Waffen members were also members of the rape
Speaker 2: Waffen channels. But a lot of Rapewaffen posters disappeared suddenly
Speaker 2: in the early months of twenty twenty, and the ones
Speaker 2: remaining grew intensely paranoid about infiltration by informants and federal agents.
Speaker 2: And you've probably guessed by now, since we're talking about it,
Speaker 2: that paranoia did not protect them.
Speaker 1: And so it was.
Speaker 2: During this period of intense turnover within rape Waffen itself
Speaker 2: that Ethan Melzer finds the group. Just four days after
Speaker 2: the channel administrator had announced that Sinistrous Rape was on hiatus,
Speaker 2: Melzer was exchanging private messages with the channel's new administrator. Now,
Speaker 2: in the court documents, this user is only identified as
Speaker 2: the channel administrator or co conspirator Ie. They don't list
Speaker 2: the username, so I don't know if it was Ironed Cults. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to piece together a very fragmented record, so
Speaker 2: they could be referring to a chat I don't see,
Speaker 2: but he was chatting with a channel administrator and the
Speaker 2: government never names this person, but they do indicate in
Speaker 2: a footnote that based on their investigation, they believe that
Speaker 2: this individual is a Canadian teenager posing as a former paratrooper.
Speaker 2: And this is, believe it or not, not the only
Speaker 2: time that a literal child in a foreign country has
Speaker 2: tricked members of the United States military into becoming a
Speaker 2: Nazi terrorist. Like, they need to have some kind of training,
Speaker 2: specifically about how to not get fooled into joining an
Speaker 2: online terror cell run by a kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if you could keep.
Speaker 2: Them out of all terror cells, that really solves the
Speaker 2: whole problem is probably a better goal. But oh my god,
Speaker 2: it is really embarrassing for the whole world to know
Speaker 2: that our troops are this gullible. I mean, just like
Speaker 2: national security wise, that doesn't seem great for us. So
Speaker 2: in April twenty first, twenty twenty, Ethan Melzer is finally
Speaker 2: chatting with someone from rape Waffen and he's chatting with
Speaker 2: this teenager that he thinks is an adult veteran, and
Speaker 2: he asks if he can join rape Waffen. They don't
Speaker 2: mention this in the court, but April twenty first is
Speaker 2: the day after Hitler's birthday, which would have made this
Speaker 2: the first day of the new year for adherence to
Speaker 2: the Order of Nine Angles.
Speaker 1: See, they have.
Speaker 2: Their own calendar that starts on April twenty, eighteen eighty nine,
Speaker 2: the day Hitler was born. So eighteen ninety is year one,
Speaker 2: and it makes twenty twenty four the year one thirty five,
Speaker 2: and they write it YF one three five.
Speaker 1: The YF used to stand for.
Speaker 2: Year of the Furor, which makes perfect sense if we're
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, years since Hitler was born, but
Speaker 2: sometimes in the early two thousands on a tech start
Speaker 2: referring to it as year of Faean, which makes no sense.
Speaker 2: One academic article I found claimed that no one actually
Speaker 2: knows where that originated or what it derives from, but
Speaker 2: within Ona the claim is that it means year of rejoicing.
Speaker 2: I guess we've been rejoicing ever since Hitler was born,
Speaker 2: like it's still a Hitler thing. And in the spirit
Speaker 2: of honesty, I do have a confession to make. For years,
Speaker 2: I have assumed that the Order of Nine Angles invented
Speaker 2: this Hitler based dating system, right Like, surely no one
Speaker 2: else is corny enough to invent a whole new Hitler
Speaker 2: based calendar, So imagine my surprise, and quite frankly embarrassment
Speaker 2: when I stumbled across a few months ago an old
Speaker 2: letter written by Mattias Cole to William Luther Pearce in
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty six. So it's on the original American Nazi
Speaker 2: Party letterhead with their po box in Alexandria, and it
Speaker 2: stated twenty two January y f seventy seven. So the
Speaker 2: Wizards didn't invent the Hitler calendar. I guess Lincoln Rockwell did.
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry I've gotten lost again. Sometimes I just
Speaker 2: feel like all roads are taking me back to William
Speaker 2: Luther Peers.
Speaker 1: It's just inescapable.
Speaker 2: So this Canadian child right tells Ethan Melzer that initiation
Speaker 2: into the Order of Nine Angles is a prerequisite for
Speaker 2: membership in rape Waffen, Like, we can't even continue talking
Speaker 2: about you getting into rape Waffen until you become a wizard,
Speaker 2: and Melzer assures him, oh, I've already done that. I've
Speaker 2: already self initiated. No worries, And with that out of
Speaker 2: the way, the teenager begins vetting the soldier for rape
Speaker 2: Waffen membership.
Speaker 3: Are you ready to cause damage both mentally, physically and magically,
Speaker 3: and be serious? I already have so yes, how do
Speaker 3: you incorporate the sinister numanous way in your life? Always
Speaker 3: working on some form of insight role, work in the
Speaker 3: pathways when I have time building up to internal a debt.
Speaker 2: Internal adept here refers to the fourth of the seven
Speaker 2: levels through which a member of the Order of Nine
Speaker 2: Angles can progress. So you start as a neophyte, then
Speaker 2: you're an initiate, an external adept, internal adept, Master, grand Master,
Speaker 2: and eventually immortal. I don't know that anyone has ever
Speaker 2: achieved immortal. Adherents have said that very few members actually
Speaker 2: progress to those upper levels, and so if Melzer was
Speaker 2: working up to internal adept in April of twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: that means he was at the time an external adept.
Speaker 2: To become an external adept, you have to engage in
Speaker 2: a ritual where you lie down on the ground all
Speaker 2: night without moving or falling asleep. And to be fair,
Speaker 2: that's probably a lot harder than it sounds, but it
Speaker 2: still sounds like child's play compared to the requirement to
Speaker 2: advance again, because to become an internal adept, a practitioner
Speaker 2: must withdraw from society completely for several months, living alone
Speaker 2: in the wild with no contact with society or no
Speaker 2: modern conveniences, and before you even attempt the necessary ritual
Speaker 2: to advance to internal adept, an external adept should practice culling.
Speaker 2: That is human sacrifice. Now, I don't want to be
Speaker 2: entirely sensationalistic about this, right when we're talking about esoteric
Speaker 2: occult texts, when you're talking about magic, not everything is literal.
Speaker 2: A lot of practitioners will say that, well, culling is symbolic.
Speaker 2: This human sacrifice can be metaphorical some ritualized performance during
Speaker 2: a ceremony. But I've read more on than I would
Speaker 2: have preferred, and generally it seems like they mean it.
Speaker 2: Members should kill. In an essay called culling as art
Speaker 2: Anton Long, the Ona grand Master most researchers believe is
Speaker 2: actually just David Myyatt wrote, some humans by nature, by character,
Speaker 2: are rotten, worthless, and when this rotten character is revealed
Speaker 2: by their deeds, it is beneficial to remove them, to
Speaker 2: cull them. It doesn't sound like that's a metaphor, and
Speaker 2: Long or David Mayatt has written multiple treatises on culling,
Speaker 2: advising that culling should target quote the sworn enemy, any
Speaker 2: of whom are deemed acceptable targets. That doesn't sound like
Speaker 2: a metaphor, and that's what was on Ethan Mel's mind
Speaker 2: that day. As an external adept, he was actively working
Speaker 2: towards a plan that would result in a mass casualty
Speaker 2: incident in the short term, and if he was lucky,
Speaker 2: thousands more deaths in the war he hoped would follow.
Speaker 2: The question of whether or not Ethan Melzer had ever
Speaker 2: tried to kill someone before is murky. A few days
Speaker 2: before his arrest, the rape Waffen Channel administrator messaged him
Speaker 2: and said, and I quote, yo, can you give me
Speaker 2: some background, like some sinister deeds you've done?
Speaker 1: I can't break man.
Speaker 2: As a Melzer claimed that as a teenager, he'd been
Speaker 2: working in the Louisville, Kentucky area as a street level
Speaker 2: drug dealer for a gang called the Bounty Hunter Bloods.
Speaker 2: In January of twenty seventeen, he arranged to meet with
Speaker 2: someone to purchase the marijuana, and instead of paying for
Speaker 2: the drugs, he ran and when the seller gave chase,
Speaker 2: the men struggled and Melser shot him. Now, Melzer was
Speaker 2: never arrested for drug dealing, let alone shooting a man,
Speaker 2: so you might think he was making that up to
Speaker 2: impress the other wizards. Maybe if you're from Louisville, you're saying, oh,
Speaker 2: of course I know the bounty hunter bloods, But to
Speaker 2: be honest, I didn't know they had bloods in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: It sounds fully made up to me. Investigative journalist Ali
Speaker 2: Winston wrote on a piece for Rolling Stone that a
Speaker 2: record's request to the Louisville Metropolitan Police produced no responsive
Speaker 2: record of an incident matching the details provided here. But
Speaker 2: the shooting is laid out in some pretty clear detail
Speaker 2: in the prosecution sentencing memorandum, and the defense doesn't dispute it.
Speaker 2: In fact, they referred to it as well as something
Speaker 2: that happened, and if the case had gone to trial,
Speaker 2: the government was prepared to put on witnesses, including someone
Speaker 2: who was prepared to testify that not only had Melzer
Speaker 2: told him about the shooting immediately after it happened, he
Speaker 2: actually knew the victim and was aware that the man's
Speaker 2: humorous had been shattered by the bullet and he had
Speaker 2: permanently lost the use of that arm. And a witness
Speaker 2: who had been Melser's roommate at the time planned to
Speaker 2: testify that he was aware of Melzer's drug dealing activities
Speaker 2: during that time period, and he'd seen photographs of the
Speaker 2: bullet wound. So I guess he really did shoot a
Speaker 2: guy in twenty seventeen. But we are not talking about
Speaker 2: Ethan Melzer because he was a drug dealer who shot
Speaker 2: another drug dealer in a drug deal in Louisville in
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. We're talking about Ethan Melzer because in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty he was charged with conspiracy to murder US nationals,
Speaker 2: attempted murder of US nationals, conspiracy to murder US service members,
Speaker 2: attempted murder of US service members, provision of material support
Speaker 2: to terrorists, conspiracy to murder and maame in a foreign country,
Speaker 2: conspiracy to injure property of a foreign government, and illegal
Speaker 2: transmission of national defense information. So if you listen to
Speaker 2: the episode a couple of weeks ago when we were
Speaker 2: talking about how it's relatively uncommon for someone to be
Speaker 2: charged for lying on their enlistment paperwork about being involved
Speaker 2: with an extremist group, well, Ethan Melzer is someone I
Speaker 2: was thinking about specifically when I said usually, by the
Speaker 2: time it's obviously lied about this, the situation has gotten
Speaker 2: a little more serious than lying on a form, so
Speaker 2: it sounds like they could have hit him with that charge.
Speaker 1: Too, But at this point, why bother.
Speaker 2: And now that we are more than halfway through this story,
Speaker 2: Now that you have a little context for where our
Speaker 2: weird little guy ended up, which is federal prison. Now
Speaker 2: that you know something about a silly sounding but frightening
Speaker 2: Nazi Satanic cult and the messy situation within Adam Woffin
Speaker 2: in the years between Brandon Russell's first trip to Federal
Speaker 2: prison and his second trip to Federal prison and the
Speaker 2: eventual collapse of Adam Woffin. Now I can start from
Speaker 2: the beginning of Ethan Melzer's story, But unfortunately, because I
Speaker 2: started so far from the beginning, I'll have to get
Speaker 2: to the end next week. I know this feels like
Speaker 2: a little bit of a bait and switch. I told
Speaker 2: you this was going to be about Ethan Melzer trying
Speaker 2: to get al Qaida to kill a bunch of soldiers
Speaker 2: in service of his advancement in a neo Nazi Satanic.
Speaker 1: Cult, and we didn't even get to that.
Speaker 2: But words like Nazi and Satanic cult are such loaded
Speaker 2: terms and ones that have been abused and exploited to
Speaker 2: trigger a specific kind of fear response in you. So
Speaker 2: I felt like I owed it to you to give
Speaker 2: you this sort of convoluted history that led to him
Speaker 2: being in that chat room, and to show you why
Speaker 2: I'm using those words and why they are absolutely appropriate here.
Speaker 2: So I hope you'll come back next week to see
Speaker 2: how it all ended. We'd Little Guys is a production
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