1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Greg Rosenthal with the Around the NFL Podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Before we get to the show today, I gotta talk 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: a little bit about FanDuel. A lot of fantasy seasons 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: are over. I wrapped up a big time title with 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: some help from Damarius Thomas on Monday Night. But the 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: season is not over at FanDuel because they have weekly leagues. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: You just play. You win some cash for your one 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: week of fantasy action, and that week includes Week seventeen. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: A lot of big games this week. 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The Around 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast can't do fage with basic people. Welcome 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: to another dissent of the Around the NFL podcast, m 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, and I'm sitting next to one sad solitary hero, 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. How you doing. I'm good. You know, it's uh, 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: it's stunning to me that, uh to you know, Dan 25 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 1: Hansas and Chris wesleyan prioritized being with their families over 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: producing the show today. Yes, we're taking this a couple 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: of days before Christmas. Dan and Chris will join us 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: later in the show for a prerecorded segment that we 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: did before. They both hopped on some planes and they 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: headed back to their nuclear families, and so they're gonna 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: have a nice they're extended family. They are a nuclear 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: family with it. I guess that's true. But they're going 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: to see their parents and whatnot. Chris is onto Cincinnati. 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Dan is in the New York area, and I hope 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: they have a great holidays. Will be holding down the 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: fort here back in Los Angeles. Yeah, it's been an 37 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: interesting You've been here a decade. You are in l 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: a man at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: it takes about that long to feel like Los Angeles 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: is a home. And it is and it's uh, the 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: city has told me many times that's true. I went 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: to the beach on Christmas last year. It was like 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: eighty degrees. That's very Australian of you. Well, we opened 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: all the presents, you know we did. It's like it 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: was eleven o'clock. Was like, let's do this. Isn't that guy, 46 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: If you've gotta be here, embrace it. We made some 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: hamburgers and whatnot. I think we'll do the same thing. 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know what the plans are. 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: We rolling with no plans, just see what happens. So 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: this is a big show, as Dan would say. As 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: I mentioned, Dan and Cryst will join us later. We're 52 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: gonna go over all our season long, go get my 53 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: lunch propositions. That's at the beginning of the year. We 54 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: made some picks. What's gonna happen, so we'll find out 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: who is right and who was wrong. But before we 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: do that, we're gonna talk a little bit about the 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Broncos Bengals game, and then we're gonna go through quickly 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: the week seventeen slate and to help us out there, 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: let's bring in our old friends d what's happening, guys, 60 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: and Dan always says, it's a really big show. You know, 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: I know, I it is. Every show is big. Are 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: fans they it's big to them. Someone on Twitter said 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: they should give us, we should give him a Christmas 64 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: present with a two hour long podcast. I like that. 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: I think this is let's be on. This is a 66 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: truncated show, fewer people in the mix, and we're gonna 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: whip through these games. You can make it happen, though, guys, 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: you know you can't do epic stuff with basically. I 69 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: did notice a certain bounce and TD step though. Um. 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes there's some heat between HANSA and TD as the 71 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: two reel leaders of the podcast. The producer, the host, 72 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: talent versus producer. It's an age old battle. It's an 73 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: inherent battle. It's there and you know it's it's part 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: of the game. But it's all love, Daniel's love. But 75 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: you kind of walked into the studio today, You're like, 76 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: this is my show today? Oh yeah, all right, let's 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: it's a disturbing clash of egos, is what it is. Alright, Well, 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: that's not my news drop. I was just saying, you know, 79 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: without Dan filling this party, but time for the news drop. 80 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Is that what you want? Alright? Let's do it. Alright, alright, alright. 81 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals are headed back to the playoffs for 82 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: the fourth straight year. We can't get rid of these 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: guys in an upset, an upset that Mark Sessler had 84 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: a little Sessler about, but he couldn't pull the trigger. 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: They take down Denver in what I believe was the 86 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: best primetime game of the season because there was so 87 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: much at stake, so much happened in the game, and 88 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati in their defense, especially in the end, was too good. Yeah. 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: I I really as in the office with you guys, 90 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: telling you I so want to pick the Bengals and 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: take my pick away from the Broncos. And when I didn't, 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: in the game unfolded ass as it did, Wesley and 93 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: Greg received about what four hundred and seven angry I am. 94 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: It was strange you were texting us. I've never seen 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: you so emotionally distraught out of nowhere, especially because you 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: were rooting for the you know, you're watching a Bengals victory. 97 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I would say this is the first Bengals team of 98 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: all these you know, kind of milk toast playoff entries 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: that we've gotten. I think there's some grit to this team, 100 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: And for me, the turning point actually came early when 101 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton throws that awful interception. You thought, you know what, 102 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: we're getting the evil Andy, and this thing's gonna go 103 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: down to bad aff and you just like it did 104 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: against the Browns in that primetime game, Jeremy Hill willed 105 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: this team back into the grid. I thought that run 106 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: was one of the better athletic moments of the entire season. 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: I love Hill. I think he's the best young rookie 108 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: running back. I agree, and I loved what John gruden 109 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: said on the show when Mike Rico kind of went 110 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: through all these reasons why Geo Bernard, Well, they they 111 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: want to, you know, keep him fresh, and he's good 112 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: on third down and they're gonna use him in certain 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: different ways. And then gruden Wood just said, well, that's 114 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: a nice way of saying Jeremy Hill is a better runner. 115 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: That's what he is. I think this he's a great gun, 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: and that's no slight to Geo Bernard, who has a 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: great role player for them. He caught five passes for 118 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: forty five yards. He had a touchdown thirty six yards 119 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: in the ground. That's that's a great one too. Punch. 120 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a better one two punch 121 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: in the entire league. Hill makes people miss. That's what 122 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know about him that you know, he's a 123 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: power a guy that can be volume twenty carries, but 124 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: he makes people miss. He's got some juice. Well yeah, 125 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: they always advertise him as just like inside between the tackles, 126 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: Hammer and o Gio Bernard's gonna be doing all this 127 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: stuff in space. It's they absolutely didn't tell us what 128 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: he really was, and on tape he's completely different. I'm 129 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: shocked that l s U wasn't a powerhouse. They had Beckham, 130 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: they had Jeremy Hill, jan and this is a game 131 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: that shows how good the rest of the Bengals are 132 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: because A. J. Green was hurt, he was in and out. 133 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: He didn't have a catch. Andy Dalton did nothing. Andy 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Dalton in the second week and round. Everyone wants to 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: talk about Peyton Manning with four picks. Oh wow, it's 136 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: like he pulled the Dalton Dalton did even less than Manning. 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't do anything. They only had two 138 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: drives in the entire game on offense that we're scoring 139 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: drives that were over thirty yards so it was special 140 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: teams and it was defense. And one of those two drives, 141 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: all Andy did was Andy Dalton did was hand the 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: ball off one time to Jeremy Hill and the other 143 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: one where where Geo Bernard's scores Allwaly does throw a 144 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: little dump out postive and that's how you win with 145 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton shirt quarterback. I mean, are you flipping flipping sides? 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Are we officially concerned about the rest of the season 147 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: for Peyton Manning here? Well, that is you know, the 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: big hot take fiascos after the game. We're gonna hear 149 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: a lot about Peyton Manning over the next few weeks. 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: To me, it's interesting. I mean, watching that game last night, 151 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: I was fascinated because for the first half, we think, 152 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Peyton Manning's done. They can't do anything. 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: That timing was off, he was confused, his arm doesn't 154 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: look good. And then in the third quarter three straight 155 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: touchdown drives just like that. I mean, everyone says he's done, 156 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: but they kind of ignore the fact that he had 157 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: a forty five yard throw to da Marius Thomas, a 158 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: very nice throw up the sideline to Sanders. He had 159 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: five plays over twenty five yards in the air against 160 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: San Diego last week. It's just like his decision making 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: is wrong and the arms that's wrong. He's just not 162 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: quite the same guy. Yeah, I mean, I think that 163 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: he's going to have a game and it certainly could 164 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: probably come against the Raiders on Sunday, which if they 165 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: win that they get a buy number one. He's got 166 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: time to get right. I I don't want to overreact 167 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: to a guy that we've seen. You were last night 168 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: on your texts, I was saying, I think this is 169 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: one of the best Broncos teams, are the best teams 170 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning has ever been on. And I know 171 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: they didn't show it last night, but I believe that 172 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: because I think this can be a top three or 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: four defense, and I think they have a good running game. 174 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: You don't need Peyton Manning to necessarily be the dominant quarterback. 175 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: He just needs to not throw picks like that. And 176 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean thing Adam Gates has showed us over the 177 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: last month that they can plan an offense that steers 178 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: away from Manning's arm to some degree and that and 179 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. And that's why all the conversation 180 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: about Manning is fair because over the last month he 181 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: has done very little. He threw twenty past attempts in 182 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: the last two weeks. This game, they started out again 183 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: just playing very slow running the ball, and then eventually 184 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: they did the hurry up. That worked for a quarter, 185 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: it didn't work in the fourth quarter. It's just been 186 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: so when was the last time there was a Peyton 187 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Manning offense that just didn't feel like a finely tuned 188 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: passing machine. Yeah, I mean TD, I think these guys 189 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: are coming around to the Sandwich bet that I put 190 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: up in week, said Manning. After one week in the playoffs, 191 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: which will be a loss into the sunset, it's over 192 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: might something. It does feel like the last few weeks 193 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: he's just sort of he's looking like an old man now. 194 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: It's sad to see. Really he might like, you know what, guys, 195 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm done. It's crazy that that if that would be 196 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the all time Sesson. We're actually gonna talk about that 197 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: one a little later with all the other sandwich propositions, 198 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: but it is insane. It wouldn't totally stunned me if 199 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: he had two terrible games. This loss was big for 200 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: them though, because they have no chance now at the 201 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: one seed. They're gonna have to beat Oakland to make 202 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: sure they get the two seed. You know, it just 203 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: sets up an interesting second round match. We could very 204 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: well see a rematch of this game in the divisional 205 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: round if Cincinnati was able to win the a f 206 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: C North and they get the three seed. That's looking 207 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: far ahead. I still think people are jumping off this 208 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Broncos team too fast, and they have a of almost 209 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance with the Patriots to make the 210 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I can't disagree. That's my hot take. Alright, 211 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: let's move on since we have a short amount of 212 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: time today and start looking at the week seventeen slate 213 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: and if you want to check out our NFL Now 214 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: video this week, it's three things to watch in Week seventeen. 215 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: It's in our folder on NFL Now. You you guys 216 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: do that at home Mark, You and Simone actually watch 217 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: us on your television. Yeah, I mean, well, you know, 218 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. You click into it and then you 219 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, you go make dinner or you go wrangle 220 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: the kids, and it's keeps playing them. So it's great 221 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: for the it's great for the clicks, the company. Whatever. 222 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that, how to put 223 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: it on your TV? Simone said, though, whenever you guys 224 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: fire it up, it seems like it's always me. I 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: think that the people in charge have identified is the 226 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: most impressive analysts to the group. I can't find anyone 227 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: else's videos. I've gotten way off track here, but one 228 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: of our takeaways, one of our things to watch is 229 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: the a f C Wild Card banan that's gonna happen 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern. Four teams go in, one team 231 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: comes out. When we find out all in three hours, 232 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs and Chargers play each other, Ravens and Texans are 233 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: involved elsewhere, only one of those teams gets through. Let's 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: start with San Diego because their first in line going 235 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: to Kansas City. This team has a little bit of magic. 236 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: What do you think about this Chargers Chiefs magic? Well, 237 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: team of a t L is the Chargers, So I 238 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: I would like to see them go in and play 239 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the way they did down the stretch against the Niners. 240 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I think this is a tough deal for 241 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: them having to go into Kansas City. But what about 242 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City's offense really captures you at this point? I 243 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't want to see Kansas City in 244 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs is a football fan. No, I don't either, 245 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: and they are last in line out of the four 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: teams because not only do they have to beat San Diego, 247 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,359 Speaker 1: they need the Texans to lose at home to Jacksonville. 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: That's a long shot. They need the Ravens to lose 249 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: at home to the Browns, who have quarterback issues. That's 250 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: a long shot. So what you could see here is 251 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: a Chiefs team have a nice final week, beat a 252 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: big time rival, get a win. Yea, but the season's 253 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: over anyways. That's that's a very possible, So I think 254 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: we would get over that. I mean the one if 255 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: if Kansas City looks at what Frank Gore was able 256 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: to do against San Diego's defense last week, they can 257 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: expose them with the run. I mean, if Jamal Charles. 258 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how healthy Jamal Charles is, but he 259 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: can If he could have a big day, that's how 260 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: you keep this game even for Kansas City. Charles is 261 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 1: a huge factor in this game. So is Ryan Matthews. 262 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: The Chargers seem optimistic that Matthews could return for this week. 263 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is playing through a bulging disc in his back. 264 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: I mean, that performance so it was so insane. If 265 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: they make the playoffs, it will be one of the 266 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: most insane runs to make a playoff because their chances 267 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: of winning that game in San Francisco were like one. 268 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: For so much of that game you have to make 269 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: seventeen different plays. It makes you wonder, is this kind 270 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: of a team of I hate to say destiny, but 271 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: a team that just has some mojo with them and 272 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: they're going to find a way to be you know, 273 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: a mediocre generic Kansas City. I just think with Kansas 274 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: City or with the Chargers. I mean, Rivers is having 275 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 1: one of those strange years where he's not been healthy 276 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: for the right He looked bad in the first half 277 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: against the forty niners and then suddenly he's thrown a 278 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: passes the guys that you haven't even seen this team. 279 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't think either of these teams are very good though, No, 280 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: and they're very fallible, and so it's I mean, really, 281 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: at this point, you we have to kind of hope 282 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: that the best, the high quality teams get in. I'm 283 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: not sure it's either one of these two. I'm not 284 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: sure there really is one in the a f C 285 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: that looks great, because let's talk about the Ravens and 286 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: the Browns. You know, we've all thought myself, especially all year, 287 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: I thought the Ravens were a top six or seven 288 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: NFL team, that they were underrated all year. And what 289 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: have they done the last two weeks? They struggled to 290 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: beat Jacksonville in Baltimore where the offense really struggled, and 291 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: then they got wiped out by case Keenum. So is 292 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: this team even that good at this point? Well? Maybe 293 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: we when when we were we're searching to identify the 294 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: most balanced, consistent team in ANFC North, I'm not sure 295 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: one exists at all, and that and maybe that's the answer. 296 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: But they're not going to have a problem taking care 297 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: of Cleveland this week. Cleveland's defense has been a shambles 298 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: of late, and Baltimore runs the ball. Well, they're not 299 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to go out of their way to win 300 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: this game, especially with Cleveland starting potentially Connor Shaw, who 301 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, nine point nine of the population has never 302 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: heard of, but you know him, I don't know him well, 303 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean with him, it's a nice fellow. I mean 304 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: I I told him, if he wins this game, NFL 305 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: inside everybody will not need to buy a drink in 306 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: the city of Cleveland ever again. But I mean he's 307 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: up against it. I mean that the team has fallen 308 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: apart Baltimore. If they thought they were going to get 309 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: a stingy week seventeen Brown's defense, that's not happening. Well, 310 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: you never know, Brian Hoyer might start. We're taping this 311 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. It's coming out. You can listen to it 312 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: all week. But for all we know, Brian Hoyer has 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: a chance to play. Even if Hoyer does play, and 314 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: that would certainly help them. I think it's gonna be 315 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: tough to go to Baltimore. But again, I I think 316 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: I have to stretch justin for said hasn't done anything 317 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. The offensive line is really 318 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: banged up for the Ravens. They lost both their tackles 319 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: last the right tackle Wagner. I don't think it's gonna 320 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: be coming back there. You know, everything's been a little 321 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: bit of a mass that Ravens team that went to 322 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, though. There was a coup aton in 323 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the locker room weeks before the regular season ended, and 324 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: they looked ridiculous. They they got they got trashed by 325 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: the Broncos in Baltimore. I think it was week fourteen 326 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: or week fifteen. Everyone said their season was over and 327 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: then suddenly their Super Bowl champs. How about the fact 328 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,479 Speaker 1: TD that Mark Sessler's buddies with Connor Shaw, I'm totally overstating. 329 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: Would categorize that. I'm totally overstating. It's like Adam Schefter famously, 330 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: him and Mike Shanahan were tight. You know some people 331 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: were tight with Bill Parcels. You're big time insider. Connor 332 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: Shaw not accurate number one, and I'm stunned that the 333 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: man is even taking the field potentially this week. Jaguars 334 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: in text and are the other game that matters for 335 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: this final number six seed. Houston is still alive, big 336 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: time home favorites, even though they're they're facing case Keenum. 337 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: I mean they're starting case Keenum at quarterback this week. 338 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: They need, like I said, the Chargers and the Ravens 339 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: to lose. Which crazier things have happened. Do you think 340 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: that they could have any problems here with Jacksonville? Well, 341 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville has been such a hot and cold team. 342 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: But we saw their defense on that game against uh, 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: the primetime game last week they got there that pass 344 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: rushing to see your Tennessee that I couldn't even remembergot 345 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: that the Titans. There are thirty two teams in the league, 346 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: they're one of them. I I don't know. I mean, 347 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is a hot and cold act. But again, you 348 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have thought Houston plug case Keenum in last week 349 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: and do anything but maybe put up a couple of points. 350 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: And Bill O'Brien deserves credit for week to week keeping 351 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: his team very competitive with questions at quarterback. It's another 352 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: nod at why J. G. Watton needs m v P 353 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: consideration for what he does. Well, we we have. I know, 354 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: I think he would be my vote right now. Him 355 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: and Rodgers are my top two. But I think what 356 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: might be my vote and he certainly could get more 357 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: attention if they can somehow sneak into the playoffs or 358 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: even win a ninth game here to have a winning record, 359 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: winning touchdown pass, you know, while adding to pick six 360 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: against this uh Jacksonville team. Well, I've thought a few 361 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: things about this Texas team all season, which is that 362 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: their defense is overrated. People remember when they used to 363 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: be good, but they have played a lot better over 364 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. They they beat Jacksonville, that's kind 365 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: of what you expect. And then they hold They hold 366 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the Colts to seventeen points in a game where you 367 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: know their offense didn't do anything and put them in 368 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: a bad spot. They did a great job against Andrew 369 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Luck and they made Joe Flacco look like a bomb 370 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: last week. So their defense is kind of peaking right now. 371 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: You have Arian Foster healthy, you have Andre Johnson healthy. Finally, 372 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: it's actually not that bad a team. And I think 373 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: they take care I think they take care of it. 374 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: I think so he's had a sneaky great season Arian Foster. 375 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: And you're talking about Blake Bortles, who you know and 376 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't even play the whole seas and it's like the 377 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: second most sacked quarterback in the league, partly because he 378 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: holds the ball too long, but secondly, that offensive line 379 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: is a sieve, right and the Jaguars and a nice job. 380 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: You gotta you know, you got another one last week. 381 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: That's not I don't think they've done a great job. 382 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Let's not ruin your draft pick too much. Let's just 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: stay in the top five. You don't want to get 384 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: your record too nice, Uh, so those are those are 385 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: the teams fighting for the wild card spot, and the 386 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: other games that matter, of course in the a f 387 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: C are the games that helped decide seeding in division. 388 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: And the big one of that Bengals Steelers another game 389 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: that we talked about on our three things to watch 390 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: this week. The Bengals defense is playing much better, but 391 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: the Steelers are looking a little bit more like a 392 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: complete team after last week as well well, and it's 393 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: like they flipped places with the Ravens and that they 394 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: suddenly become that team that we can look to. And really, 395 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: if the Steelers were to get hot and they were 396 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: my Super Bowl pick, and I probably wouldn't if I 397 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: knew what I knew, go back and do that again. 398 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: But they if they were to put together some sort 399 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: of peak performance we have they play the way they 400 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: can an offense who can stop them in the a 401 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: f C. They really are a team that, when they're 402 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: operating on all cylinders, they could take care of the 403 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: Bengals number one and go on from there. Didn't you 404 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: double down on that and our mid season predictions. The 405 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: Steelers were struggling at that time, and you just made 406 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: your mid season prediction essentially the same as your preseason prediction, 407 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: and you said the Steelers are gonna run through the 408 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: a f C and go win at all. Well, that 409 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: was a case where but it's actually looking pretty decent 410 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: right now. They did go out a run relatively it 411 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: was a chance to just do a copy and paste 412 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: from what I had written August and save myself some time. 413 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I'll stick with that. Although, listen, this 414 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Bengals team, which I've never been high on this Andy 415 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: Dalton Marvin Lewis combination, but it's because of everything around 416 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, like we just talked about at the top 417 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: of the show with the game last night, that this 418 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: is the first Bengals team of these playoff entries that 419 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: I can get behind. That excites me that I would 420 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: want to watch the playoffs. Their defense hadn't been the 421 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: same for much of the year, but they're playing better now. 422 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlaps playing well. Uh, They're a little healthier at linebacker. 423 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Geno Atkins has been a little bit better. He's been 424 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: solid down the stretch. It's a really fascinating game because 425 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: if the Steelers can win this and they have another 426 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: game where worlds and Harrison in their front seven looks good. 427 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: I mean, they hit the playoffs as the number three seed. 428 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: Most likely the winner of this game is going to 429 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: be the three seed, barring the big time Broncos upset, 430 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: and you know, that's a good spot. And maybe you're 431 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: going to Denver in the second round. And and the 432 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers at least hit the playoffs really looking as 433 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: good as they've looked all year. Yeah, and I know 434 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: everyone's down on the Colts right now, but I don't 435 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: want to be a Bengals team or any a f 436 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: C wild card team that gets in and has to 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis with a healthy t Y Hilton. So 438 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: the loser of this game goes to Indianapolis. We're not 439 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: even gonna talk about Colts Titans this week because it 440 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything because the Colts could win that game, 441 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: as they should, but if they lose it, it really 442 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: doesn't make a difference. They're they're in. They're gonna be 443 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: the four seed, and they're gonna play the loser of 444 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: this a f C North matchup Bengals and Steelers, And 445 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: it does make me under you know, can the Bengals 446 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: get it done in Pittsburgh just because it's such a 447 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: big difference for them. They were shut out in Indianapolis, 448 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: remember earlier in the year, so it is such a 449 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: Even though it's great they beat Denver, this is really 450 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: the game that matters because if they have to go 451 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis in the first round of the playoffs, that 452 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: smells like another one and done. Yeah, I mean, their 453 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: playoffs essentially started with the Denver game, and this is 454 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: just as important. So Denver and Oakland play the other 455 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: a f C game that makes a difference on Sunday. 456 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: Oakland has won three games here down the stretch. Denver 457 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: has to win this game to clinch the number two seed. 458 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: Do we think there could have any problems with it? 459 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: The only thing about Oakland. Oakland needs to be at home, 460 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: I think, to have any chance to keep this thing close. 461 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Although I you know, honestly, part of that is just 462 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: thinking of what we know about the Broncos that they're 463 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna go in and drop some epic bomb on Oakland. 464 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: Oakland's defense last couple of weeks has looked very interesting. 465 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack has been playing lights out, Derek Carr has 466 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: been really good one game and then the all entire 467 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: offense has zero rhythm the next So it just depends 468 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: which Raiders team you get to even maybe make it 469 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: a game. They weren't even competitive in Kansas City. They 470 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: haven't been the same team on the road. But these games, 471 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: the Broncos game will be No one's gonna be watching 472 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: that game, by the way, because it's not a single person. 473 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: It's the same time as Panthers Falcons, which is basically 474 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: a playoff game, and it's the same time as Lions Packers, 475 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: which decides the NFC North. And since we're talking about it, 476 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: let's just flip over to the NFC, you know. Sorry, 477 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: Jets and Dolphins fans. Real quick question. You just mentioned 478 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: Mac by the way, but but serious question. Note I 479 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: was talking to DJ yesterday. I'll move the stakes, o dB. 480 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: Kalil Mack. Who would be number one of the draft 481 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: was today? Oh, I would go O dB. I think 482 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: it would be Beckham. And I know teams value pass 483 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: rushers more, but Beckham's first whatever games this is now eleven, 484 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: have been so over the topic extraordinary. I think it 485 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: it'd have to be Beckham. What happened? What did J say? D? 486 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: I think D lead into his Mac. He didn't really choose. 487 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm all, I'm all in a dB. I'm like, I'm 488 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 1: if you know what you know, and you're the GM 489 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: that goes Mac over Beckham, You're gonna have to hope 490 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: that Beckham doesn't do what we think he's gonna do. 491 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, because he could sell tickets for the next 492 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: decade for your friends. Because because what's the floor for Mac? 493 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: I think it's a multiple pro bowler, but it's not 494 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: necessarily the best pass rusher of his generation. It's just 495 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: a really good pro bowler, which is awesome. I mean, 496 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: we have him as a pass rushing his numbers are 497 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: he lately last half he hadn't been getting sacks, but 498 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: he's had tons of hurries and it's starting to show up, 499 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: and he's got to be a great player. I mean, 500 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: I think those would be the top two you picked. 501 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: You picked the right to um. So that wraps up 502 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: our look at the a f C. We're gonna speed 503 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: through some of these NFC games. I think we have 504 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: to start with the NFC North Lions. Packer decides the division. 505 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: The winner of this game could be as high as 506 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: the one seed, and the loser could be as low 507 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: and likely would be the sixth seed. How wacky is that. 508 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that going into the final week. 509 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: It would be very wacky for the Packers with what 510 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: we've seen them be end up as the sixth seed 511 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: in this thing they do is lose this game, It's 512 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna happen because to me that if you put 513 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: them at home and if they get potentially a bye, 514 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: they are one of the unbeatable forces in the NFC. 515 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: And this is Detroit's chance because I think a lot 516 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: of people don't believe in the Lions or they just 517 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: haven't watched the Lions. There's a lot of good parts. 518 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: It's a great defense. Here's the defense that could potentially 519 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: slow down Aaron Rodgers and the Packers if there's one 520 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: out there. So prove it to me, Lions, that you're 521 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: a playoff team that can do more than coast into 522 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: the sixth seed and get bunked out in the Week 523 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: one or you know, win a game and you're gone. 524 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: Just give us a good game at least you know 525 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: the line the Lions won. You know, this matchup in 526 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: Detroit and Aaron Rodgers and this Packers offense didn't look 527 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: great when they played a good pass Russian flow. This game, 528 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: of course will be at home, but on paper it's 529 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: it's not a terrible, terrible matchup for Detroit because there 530 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: are a rare team that can disrupt Rogers, who you know, 531 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,239 Speaker 1: a few medical things wrong with him lately. They're not 532 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: quite in sync and they're facing a defense that is 533 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: not a shutdown defense. So Stafford has struggled lately, but 534 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush look good last week, and it says Packers 535 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: defense isn't a shutdown defense by any means. You figure 536 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: they can score some points against I think they can. 537 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we've gotten a different Lions offense week to week. 538 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: But the thing I don't know, I actually I disagree 539 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: with that. They are one of the most consistent teams 540 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: I think in the league. When I watched them, I've 541 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: watched the lines I think more than any team, and 542 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: they're a consistent c plus. I mean, they are pretty 543 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: much the same mediocre offense every week. It's not the 544 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: worst thing you've ever seen, but it's bad unless they're 545 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: playing a really bad team. See that. That book doesn't 546 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: bode well for Detroit in my book, because of Green 547 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: Bays at home and they get on one of these 548 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: explosive quarters where they dropped twenty one sings over. So, 549 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: like I said, the winner of this game had a 550 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: chance to get the one seed. It's a lot more 551 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: likely that they'd be the two seed in the playoffs. 552 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: But the winner, as long as there is a winner 553 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: and there's no tie, will get a playoff FI And 554 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: that's because the one seed is likely going to Seattle, 555 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: because you know, there's there's all these scenarios this week 556 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: in the NFC, but they almost all depend on Seattle 557 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: losing to the Rams, and Sean Hill is going up 558 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: to Seattle and he's going in for a world of pain. Yeah, 559 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: and it's the Rams defense didn't look great last week. 560 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: I Seattle is just peaking on their peaking and and 561 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: they're hitting the playoffs at the perfect time. It's shocking 562 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: to two months ago we were wondering if the Seattle 563 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,479 Speaker 1: dynasty or whatever it was, was already over, and it's like, no, 564 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: they just needed to get healthy and they're the far 565 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: support superior team this week. Well, the Rams couldn't win 566 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: two home games the last two weeks against Arizona and 567 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: Ryan Linley, and then they got waxed by the Giants. 568 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: So what this game looked very tricky on paper a 569 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: month ago. I don't think it's tricky anymore. You figure 570 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: the Seahawks role. They get the one seed, and that 571 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: leads the Cowboys likely in the three seed. Because the Cowboys, 572 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: the only chance they really have to move out of 573 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: this three seed is either with a tie in some 574 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: of these games, you know, to to the Detroit game, 575 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: or with the Seattle losing. So Dallas has a winnable 576 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: game in Washington early on Sunday. It's a game they lost. 577 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: They want to get revenge. Ultimately, it probably won't make 578 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: a difference to their seating. Yeah, and it's a game 579 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: with two potential m VP candidates in DeMarco Murray and 580 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: Tony Romo. And if they I thought you're gonna say 581 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third, well you know he would be. 582 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: He'd be on that shortlist. There's no question he'd enough 583 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: with the m v P for Romo. But give me 584 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: a break. I don't think it's that crazy. He's not 585 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: gonna win it, but he's he's certainly has to be 586 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: the guy you'd have to consider he's in that mix. 587 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: You're the one that always says I hate that these 588 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: awards are just like narratives. You know, it's just like 589 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: a storyline everyone likes. And isn't that all Romo for 590 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: m v P is or it's not the m v 591 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: P of the last three weeks to the season, it's 592 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 1: the m v P of the season. Well, it's going 593 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: to be a quarterback. The offensive line has been more 594 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: valuable than him, in the running game has more been 595 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: more valuable than him. And Romo has been almost perfect 596 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: in December. But you can't tell me he made a 597 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: bigger difference than Aaron Rodgers did this year, or j 598 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: J or Tom Brady for that matter. No, I'm sort 599 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: of saying he's in the mix, though, and I don't 600 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: think it's I think he might win it because people 601 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: just love that narrative. I hate that. But I think 602 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: let's start with the with the understanding that the awards 603 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: are nonsense and we don't really care who wins these things. 604 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: I care. I care enough that I'm a big sham 605 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: to me. But DeMarco Murray he probably will not get 606 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: at this point, but he has been the heart of 607 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: this of this offense for sure. Yeah, you can't really 608 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: give it to the offensive line as a group, but 609 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: it would be crazy. And here's why I wouldn't give 610 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: it to Romo. I think you can come up with 611 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: seven or eight quarterbacks and you drop him on this 612 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys team and that offense is doing just as well 613 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: or better. All right, But I also think I don't 614 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: think Romo has been a different I think it's been 615 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: a great year for him, and he's a great quarterback, 616 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: but he's not better than Aaron Rodgers and Brady this year. 617 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's he's just very quickly dismissed 618 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: as well this year, especially that he's just game managing 619 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: this team, doing eleven and four records, made some huge throws. 620 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that he also is the guy 621 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: that he's come back from a back injury. I mean, 622 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: you want the narrative is in place. I hate the narrative. 623 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys, if they win this game, I think 624 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: Romo has a real chance because the voting happens right 625 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: after the regular season and people just get swept up 626 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: with the oh wow, let's give it to you know what. 627 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean? Like they blamed, they blamed like acid rain 628 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: on him, and they blamed on crime in various cities 629 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: on him. It's time to give him a little bit 630 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: of credit. How about that? So the Cowboys likely headed 631 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: to the three seed. Let's talk a little bit about 632 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: the four seed in the NFC, and that's gonna be 633 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: the winner of the first playoff game of the year. Ultimately, 634 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: this is the playoff game Carolina Atlanta, and people don't 635 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: like this game, but you know what, I'm assigning myself 636 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: this game because I'm excited for it. I think it's 637 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: interesting to see these two teams that are playing better, 638 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: two good quarterbacks, and one of them is into the 639 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: Big Dance. I think the Panthers right now are the 640 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: better team, but I almost would like to see Atlanta 641 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: get into the show because if you have one of 642 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: those afternoons where Matt Ryan and Julio Jones are on 643 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: fire and it's gonna be in Atlanta, they could deal. 644 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: They could deal a major upset to someone. They have 645 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: a good chance, the winner of this game to host 646 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Now, if you you know, a few things 647 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: have to happen. But basically, if the Cardinals get into 648 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs, they're very likely to be the five seed 649 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: and go on the road and probably be underdog to 650 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: this team. So the winner of this game could easily 651 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: be playing in the divisional round and be sent up 652 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: to Seattle, you know, like lambs for slaughter. I mean, 653 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: that would be a disaster, disastrous divisional round game. But 654 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I do think these two teams are playing better. They're 655 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: playing like nine and seven type of teams, and you know, 656 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: you're looking at two quarterbacks are also playing their best 657 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: football the year. It's not it's not a bad game. Oh, 658 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: I think it's it's It's classic to me that a 659 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: seven win team is going to get into the postseason. 660 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: I love it. The Falcons have been reliable lately. They 661 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: have a generic defense, but their offense, the passing game 662 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: is pretty good. The Panthers, they're also stopping the run, 663 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: so that'll be an interesting match of Jonathan Stewart versus 664 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Panthers are a little more up and down, 665 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: but it seems like they have more firepower overall. I again, 666 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: I want to see Julio Jones in the playoffs. He's 667 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: the best player on either one of these two teams, 668 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: and that's what you want in the playoffs. So the Cardinals, 669 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: which we mentioned, likely headed for the five seed. You know, 670 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: they could get some help and get a buy and 671 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: win the division. It looks like they're gonna start Logan 672 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: Thomas at quarterback in San Francisco for Jim Harbaugh's swan song. Yeah, 673 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: I think it's an absolute statement on Ryan Linley that 674 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: they know they're going nowhere with that. And and Logan 675 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: Thomas isn't is a complete wild card. I mean, it 676 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: was just pre draft process where they thought he's gonna 677 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: get drafted as a tight end that's maybe how his 678 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: NFL career would go. And there's been reports, you know 679 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: that he's been really up and down in practice whenever 680 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: he's had a chance to take snaps. So I think 681 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: the Bruce Arians is just basically saying, listen, we'll do 682 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: what we can. If they ever won this week against 683 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: the Niners with Logan Thomas, you gotta call Arians coach 684 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: of the year. That's as coach of the year, no 685 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: matter what, he's coach of the century. If he wins 686 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: with Logan Thomas, there's a decent chance. First of all, 687 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: Logan Thomas is playing in the game in which his 688 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: team could be the number one seed in the NFC. 689 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: That's insane, that's crazy, but it's it's it's also he 690 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: also might be starting a playoff game. I think that's 691 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: why arians did this is because Drew Standon had a 692 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: setback last week and he wants to see if Thomas 693 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: could possibly start that playoff game. I think he's thinking 694 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: that Thomas is gonna give you a higher ceiling. But 695 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: anything else that happens with him, we it's a complete enigma. 696 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: I just am disappointed that Logan Thomas is going to 697 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: ruin the best career UH stat line in NFL history. 698 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Right now, for his career, he has one for nine 699 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: for eighty one yards in a touchdown. Remember the through 700 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: a little I think it was it was a little 701 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: slant pass. I forget who is to who ran for 702 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: a long touchdown? One for nine for eighty one yards. 703 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's what you're getting with Logan Thomas. Not 704 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of completions, but a lot of it not one. 705 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: So Jim Harbaugh has a chance to go out in style, 706 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: try try to win that game, and that's really the 707 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: last NFC game that matters. I mean, you've got Saints 708 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: Bucks that's gonna help decide the number one seed. Bucks 709 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: are in great position for it. You got Bears Vikings. 710 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: No one really cares about that game at this point. 711 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: Let's not waste people's precious time. They're with their families. 712 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: They've taken time away from their eggnog and their various 713 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: other holiday cheers and booze killed with drinks to hang 714 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: out with us. And who who would have thought Eagles 715 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: Giants doesn't make any difference in the world either, other 716 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: than like Odell Beckham, setting you know, the city on 717 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: fire a little more set it on fire. So that 718 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: that's all we got for you today. We've run through 719 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: all the games. Uh, we are still gonna talk a 720 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: little bit about our sandwich propositions, and to do that, 721 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it over to my main man, Dan 722 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: hanss Hands is all right, guys, So we have reached 723 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: week seventeen and it's time to revisit our go get 724 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: my lunch propositions that we made. I believe we made 725 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: them right after week one, if I can recall. Yeah, 726 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: so this time we're ahead of the game. We We've 727 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: had three months have passed and I'm a little afraid 728 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: to look at some of these predictions, both on behalf 729 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: of myself and you guys. I'm sure we some of 730 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: the things we got behind probably didn't quite work out, 731 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: but we're about to find out as we go through 732 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: this list. And uh, I'll go straight from the top, 733 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: and first of all, a big hearty thanks to what's 734 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the Twitter handle again, go get Go get my lunch 735 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: at go get my lunch strangely enough better be Uh, 736 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through. They did a great job that 737 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: that Twitter handle like keeping track of all these and 738 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: we're actually using their official Twitter handle, uh spreadsheet to 739 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: go through these. So let's just go down the list. 740 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: And Chris Westling's first, and I will say that, uh 741 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: sandwiches one loss that says that you have won five sandwiches. 742 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: All these are There are a few of these, by 743 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: the way, that are pending week seventeen action, but a 744 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of this is settled and we could talk about it. 745 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: That's why we're doing it right now. Chris Westling's five 746 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: sandwiches one, seven sandwiches lost. Let's go champion has been 747 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: taken down. He used to be great at this. I've 748 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: seen the career standings and I still stand on top. 749 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: That's passed alright, So west west throughout there. That Teddy 750 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: Bridge order will start week one, and Greg said, I 751 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: disagree that won't be the case. There was once a 752 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: time Greg doubted Teddy Bridge one. Well, he was on 753 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: the same tame with my other boy, Matt Castle, and 754 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: I looked like my confidence in Matt Castle was proved correct. 755 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: So Bridge order didn't start until one was after Castle 756 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: got hurt, I think four weeks in right, So then 757 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: we had Matt Flynn will not be on the Packers 758 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: opening day roster. Greg took that one as well. No, 759 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: that was an easy one that was from the summer. 760 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that one because because West believed in this one. Matt, 761 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: thank you for believing it. And I think Mark had 762 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: my back a little bit on this one. Nobody wants 763 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: to see Matt Flynn throw a pass again in the NFL. 764 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: I certainly felt that logical. If you're going to run 765 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: a team, you wouldn't have him on your roster. Mike 766 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: Vick will start at least the next four games weeks nine, ten, twelve, 767 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: and thirteen. That was a mid season one. That was 768 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 1: a mid season Sandwich wager that Vick would start at 769 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: least the next four games. And then of course Woody 770 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: Johnson veto that and banged West hard costing of sandwiches. 771 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: Hold on, yeah, it's got some evidence here. I would 772 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: like to introduce Exhibit A from This is the most 773 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: prep West has ever done. He's printed out down Exhibit 774 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: A from at Doug and Passo. Chris. I followed the 775 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: sandwich bets. What I wrote down was vic in weeks 776 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: nine to twelve, not games nine to twelve. You nailed it? 777 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: Not all right, let's there was a bye week in 778 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: there didn't But didn't he lose the job after three starts. 779 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: He held the job for four weeks, but not four games. 780 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go and listen to tap that 781 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: is Dan and I won sandwiches off of that. But 782 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't think we might have to go check. 783 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: We'll the dig through it, all right. Rams finished with 784 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: tied with the worst record in the NFL. West was 785 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: down on the Rams. Greg. So you guys, here's the 786 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: here's the secret to the sandwich. Just take them off. 787 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: Just say yes. One of the odds that's gonna be. 788 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: All of our predictions were wrong. Rams are gonna win 789 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: about seven games, as they always do, so that will 790 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: not get it done for worst record. Brandon Cooks, the 791 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 1: guy that West is very high on will be offensive. 792 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year was high on him. He has 793 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: been replaced more than capably by It's ironic. You don't 794 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: see Mark's name as taking any of these do anything. 795 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to do this, But you keep saying 796 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: that that you're on a budget. But if you had 797 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: just taken all of these, you would have won all 798 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: the sandwiches and save yourself. I have not been a 799 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: diehard gambler for two two decades. We don't gamble here, 800 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: but Mark. Mark's logic was flawed because he doesn't want 801 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: to risks losing sandwiches and paying out money. But he's 802 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 1: not realizing that to win sandwiches and not paying money, 803 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: you gotta get. You gonna take everyone else, saying I'm 804 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: good at this game. That's not my right, all right, 805 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace will lead the a f C and receiving yards. 806 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: I took West up on that, and I believe Wallace 807 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: will leave lead the division. Right, No, we won't. Gronkowski 808 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: is up. Technically that one is still up in the air, 809 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: but Dan is looking great. And finally, West, Matt Ryan 810 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford finished with more passing yards than Peyton Manning. 811 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: That's a big loss and I took that. Greg took 812 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: that one up, Stafford, Ryan and Ryan and Peyton Manning 813 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: took everything. We all said. I want a challenge alright. 814 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Moving on to Mark. Michael Vick starts week one for 815 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: the Jets. I was the only one to take Mark 816 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: up on that, and I got a sandwich off it chomp, chomp, chomp. 817 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: Blake Boardles starts by week three. This one hurt. This 818 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: one hurt because he came on the field in week 819 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 1: three and essentially won the starting church, but he didn't 820 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: start until week four. Greg, Greg and West both agreed 821 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: to split the lunch if wrong. I don't know why 822 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: that is that it's weird. Mark actually laid this out 823 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: after Jets went over over the Raiders, that the Jets 824 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: will finish with a winning record, and nobody else took 825 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: him up on that except for Greg, who got a 826 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: sandwich off. I am gonna be full of sandwiches, I say, 827 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: by the way, Sessler won three sandwiches and lost five, 828 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: and he's gonna lose a few more coming up. Maybe 829 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: have to just give us your ATM card. Mark Mark 830 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Caves will have more wins after seven games, 831 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: and the Browns will have all year. Of course, the 832 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: Browns are sitting at seven wins, and I believe the 833 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: Calves started like three and four. Another lesson we should 834 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 1: have all taken it. That was none of us took 835 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: that one. Jimmy Garoppolo will start at least one game 836 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: for the Patriots this year. I didn't take that one 837 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: just because I didn't like when Mark goes down, the 838 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: serious injury around for people, and I think you keep 839 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: this card. Nobody has gotten one right so far. So 840 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: Mark Mark could be as low he's losing these two 841 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: he's that would put him at three and seven. And 842 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: then the next one is I will I will vanish 843 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: on trans to the East. I'm not gonna be. And 844 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: then in the non producer category, because our producers always 845 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: make the worst sandwich propositions, but in in the A 846 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: t L group, the worst one of all time. Peyton 847 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: plays exactly sixteen more NFL games, then he's done. That's 848 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: not a chance to happen. No, it probably doesn't. Well, 849 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: laugh it off, that's fine, but this was said after 850 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: week one, so that he playoff, right, So if the 851 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: playoff game and then the sunset Mark looks like a genius. 852 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: He does, and if not, he's given up eleven sandwiches. 853 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: Moving moving so far, I'm just gonna buy one of 854 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: those giant like all right, Moving on to Greg he 855 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: Greg is on fire. So far He's won nine sandwiches 856 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 1: and lost just five. First one, NFC East will have 857 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: three teams with losing records. Nobody took that, and that 858 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: was wrong. Everyone's been wrong. Justin Hunter will play more 859 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: snaps than Nate Washington. This is a Greg West fire joint. 860 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: Where do we stand on that? Uh? Nate Washington's gonna 861 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: play more snaps? Well West. This shows the kind of 862 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: character of the man we're dealing with. Justin Hunter was 863 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: leading by a good margin. The man ruptured his spleen literally, 864 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: and West took that as an occasion to send me 865 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: a taunting email. We can do without. I would have 866 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: done the same thing with part of the part of 867 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: this proposition was that Justin Hunter is a slightly built 868 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: man who will always be oh yeah, you saw the 869 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: spleen rupture coming, thrilled that West is a spleen expert. 870 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: All right, Jake Locker will have more passing yards than 871 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: two of the following quarterbacks r G three, Russell Wilson 872 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: and Colin Kaepernick. So well, you could have listed any 873 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in the NFL, and that would have everyone did, 874 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: including TV who want a sandwich off that one? Good 875 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 1: job there, Mr t D Teddy Bridgewater. I would hold 876 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: off on that though, TV, because we haven't gotten to yet. 877 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: Robert Woods leads the bills and receiving yards. Uh, this 878 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: was the West took him up on this. And and 879 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: then we have another note here. If Greg wins, he 880 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: gets a side of potato salad on top of the sandwich. 881 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose that one. It was close, but I 882 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: was gonna lose alright, Greg, I did negotiate extra details 883 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: into the I was giving up odds. But yeah, this 884 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: is also another one that just involved Greg and I. 885 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 1: Greg said that Richie Incognito won't play in the NFL again, 886 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: I say he will. Uh that is yet to be determined, 887 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: so that's kind of in the air. On a side note, 888 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: I have a much darker proposition with Handsome Hay downstairs 889 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: or regarding Incognito, but I will not get into it 890 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: on the show. Uh. Last one from Greg Mike Zimmer 891 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: will receive more Coach of the Year votes than Peyton 892 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: Manning or Drew Brees get m v P votes. Convoluted button. 893 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know Zimmers like fourth or Fish. Think it 894 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: might be like two to zero this year. This is 895 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: a I'm with West. I think West is gonna win this, 896 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: but it could be close. Alright, Moving on to me, 897 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: I've won six so far and lost three and the 898 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,359 Speaker 1: only reason we're doing this segment is because of that. Yes, 899 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: thank you. Barring injury, Michael Vick doesn't start for the 900 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: Jets in two thousand fourteen. Stupid, No one took me 901 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: on that. Why do everyone we forget how strangely, almost 902 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: suspiciously high we were. Geno Smith after a nineteen fourteen 903 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: went over the Raiders at home was moving on. Case 904 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: Keenan will start more games than Ryan Mallett, the great 905 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: upset of all time. Case Keenum emerges out of the 906 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: ether a week ago and is most likely, barring something 907 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: him getting struck by lightning this week, we'll finish with 908 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: the same number of starts as mald who was the 909 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: name that's gonna be a push Texan starter and then 910 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: hurt himself and he's out for the year. It's gonna 911 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: be too too you. You guys were magnanimous and you said, 912 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: even though he doesn't have more starts, the absurd nature 913 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: of the cover here, that's the miraculous pick of the year. 914 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: That's the one. I don't know why we chose now 915 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: to start being magnanimum uh. This one has my fingerprints 916 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: all over. And Andy Dalton will finish with a higher 917 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: passer rating than Philip Rivers. I don't know what it is. 918 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: I would assume it's something about like ninety three to 919 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: eighty or something. It's probably not a hugely embarrassing, but 920 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: two point seven. This is actually his worst year. I think. Yeah, 921 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: I didn't. He had been a nineties guy until this season, 922 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: and that's what I was banking on. It didn't work 923 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: out that way, and I lost Sandwich just to Greg 924 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: Mark and west On that one. Jason Garrett will survive 925 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: the season. He's not only gonna survive, and he's gonna 926 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: get like a million year extension. Cessler said, no, he's 927 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: getting fired. Cessler was famously out in The Cowboys, to 928 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: the point where he had the famous adjectives for the Cowboys. 929 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: That was the one one Mark took basically and he 930 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: got that wrong too. Finally, we've been talking about this 931 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: all year in the newsroom. J J. Watt will have 932 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: more sex than DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller combined. Uh 933 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: what is probably gonna have more sacks than either of 934 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: those guys, but wearing Miller over twenties as a combos there, 935 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 1: so you'll even out. Yeah, a little bit lust that 936 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: one to Greg West and t D in on that 937 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: and finally t D who Uh, great job by t D. 938 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: He's he won one sandwich and is down four and 939 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna win that wat one so too. But here 940 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: we go. Calvin Johnson finishes the year with twenty at 941 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: least excuse me, at least twenty four receiving touchdowns. The 942 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: entire group cannot wait to jump on that one, and 943 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna cost them multiple sandwiches. Your thoughts, I'm a 944 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: home run hitter. You know, I took a shot, I missed, 945 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: but you know, you gotta know who you are, and 946 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: you're like Robber didn't hit one. Our producers, for the record, 947 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: are combined one and six in their careers. In this game. 948 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: You want to play with the big boys. You know, 949 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 1: if you're only getting one of two shots. You gotta 950 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: take a shot, you know, Okay, I can't go for 951 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 1: the little ones and the final in which none of 952 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: us took and it's a it's a good thing the Jets, 953 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: Dolphins or Bills will make the playoffs. TV laid that 954 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: out and we didn't take the bait, and it's well, 955 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 1: we should have. We could have taken from sand. Yeah, 956 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 1: I've noticed a little bit of strategy here. Here's one 957 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: of the keys to this game. If you really in 958 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: three or four guys, you better hope you get it 959 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: right or else you're down. You're never going to recover 960 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: from that. So we'll have the final numbers in about 961 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: a week. But most of these are settled. And uh, 962 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: I guess what's the big takeaway that none of us 963 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: know anything? But we tried to put these things out 964 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: of fun. We did it, uh in advance of free 965 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: agency last year. I believe in it. That was I 966 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: think we got quite a few of those. We'll do 967 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: that again. We'll bring it back for free agency again. 968 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 1: So that is the go get my lunch propositions for 969 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: the two All right, that was it? How many people 970 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: just fast forward it right to the sandwich thing, no one. 971 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Do you think people care about the standards? I don't know. 972 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: I hope they did because it was a good time. 973 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,399 Speaker 1: They just like, we need a little Dan and West 974 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: in our lives. I can pretty much tell my wife, hey, 975 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 1: you don't have to budget for food in two thousand 976 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: and fifteen because I got about fifteen million sandwiches. Come well, 977 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: and I've told my wife that our two children won't 978 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: be eating until middle of April. That's fine, that's how 979 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: it goes. You know, that will be fine. Wow, what 980 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: a terrible What a way to go into Christmas. T 981 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 1: D abominable. Well, we want to thank everyone that listens 982 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 1: to the show all regular season long. Of course, we'll 983 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night to wrap up this week seventeen. 984 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back throughout the playoffs with three shows a week. 985 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, have a great Christmas, have a 986 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,319 Speaker 1: great Hanukkah, any holidays that you celebrate, you know, get 987 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 1: it done. I have a good time for Mark Sessler, 988 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: t D. Behind the Glass, Zack Dressler's back there, Dan 989 00:47:50,760 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 1: Hansas in New York, Chris Westling, We'll see you on Sunday,