WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Six Weeks Report Card

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 3>This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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<v Speaker 2>From the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Six past second, Pascot tizonasdown and now.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company,

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<v Speaker 5>live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in the SWBC studios.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the bye week, everybody, and we've got Brian

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<v Speaker 3>brought us, Barry Church and Chris Beam in the back,

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<v Speaker 3>back in the fold and game. You're on this Talking

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<v Speaker 3>Cowboys a wonderful Wednesday edition.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kyle Yeoman.

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<v Speaker 6>A little bit of chilly outside.

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<v Speaker 3>Right baby, everybody's got a little fleece action.

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<v Speaker 7>Going on, and Barry's looked like he's ready for eighteen today.

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<v Speaker 7>You see, that's gotta be able to swing. That's a movement,

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<v Speaker 7>that's gotta be able to turn on that ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, indeed, if I started a timer from when I

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<v Speaker 3>sign off and I say we'll see you next week

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<v Speaker 3>on Talking Cowboys, Yes, sir to the point where you

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<v Speaker 3>t off on whole one. How what would the time

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<v Speaker 3>be today?

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<v Speaker 8>That's gonna take me probably about forty get under an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not going to tell the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fans where you're playing, because then there will be a

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<v Speaker 3>line out the door to see Barry Church to me.

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<v Speaker 7>Off, He'll take your money, he'll take your movie playing

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<v Speaker 7>with today?

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<v Speaker 2>Who am I playing with?

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<v Speaker 8>A guy by the name of Ali and Broderick. Ali

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<v Speaker 8>played for the for the cardon Us for a while.

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<v Speaker 8>Projects just stick out there, mad dude's unreal on the

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<v Speaker 8>golf course.

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<v Speaker 6>So you got to play with What is your handicap

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<v Speaker 6>right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you shooting at fifteen? I'm a fifteen okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just trying.

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<v Speaker 6>To get better than when we were just talking about

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<v Speaker 6>around that year.

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<v Speaker 3>We were like mid forties along the way brought us

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<v Speaker 3>when you when you pulled out.

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<v Speaker 6>That jacket today, this fleece today.

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<v Speaker 3>How how many times have you pulled that out of

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<v Speaker 3>your closet period?

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<v Speaker 7>But the l issues, Yeah, I got more LSU gear.

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<v Speaker 7>That's my love right there. I mean that that I

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<v Speaker 7>live and die with my school there and yeah, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's a but yeah, I enjoy I got a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of a lot of my head. I was telling

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<v Speaker 7>you about my We were talking about Starter jackets. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I was telling me about stuff we used to wear

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<v Speaker 7>in Green Bay and it was like a sleeping bag.

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<v Speaker 7>I had to still have this long like jacket that

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<v Speaker 7>went past my knees that you wore in those games

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<v Speaker 7>when it was like, you know, ten degrees. Starter used

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<v Speaker 7>to make some badass jackets. They still do. We were

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<v Speaker 7>talking about today. You break them out, they're like and

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<v Speaker 7>I have a bunch of packer ones that I kept.

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<v Speaker 7>Always kept my rain suits because of the playing golf,

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<v Speaker 7>for going fishing in them. So like there were a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of times like I would take all my gear

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<v Speaker 7>when I was leaving a job and I would just

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<v Speaker 7>leave it in my locker, just bag it all up

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<v Speaker 7>and okay, it's yours, but I take the rain suit.

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<v Speaker 7>So you might be burying on me, be playing golf,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'll have on a Jacksonville Jaguar, Jacksonville Jaguar rain

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<v Speaker 7>suit all black with the little logo on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>and you guys could mention that Jackson Well, I used

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<v Speaker 7>to when I was in Jacksonville Bury. I understand this

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<v Speaker 7>I used to live in Panda Vidra. I lived at

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<v Speaker 7>TPC and matter of fact, I lived on the at

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<v Speaker 7>the eighteenth Green. There was the team doctor of the Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 7>He let me rent his house. Oh wow, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 7>so it was like it's kind of a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>of a funny story. He goes. He goes, hey, you

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<v Speaker 7>have a place to live, Brian, and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't. He is, I got this place at Sawgrass, Doc,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm just a scout. It's a scout. He goes, two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand bucks this nineteen ninety eight, and I said, two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand bucks. Wig, what's the hook? He goes, I don't

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<v Speaker 7>want the wife to have the house and the divorce

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<v Speaker 7>in this house, I mean this house. So like I

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<v Speaker 7>had pro golfers living around me, and doctor said, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't want the wife to have the house. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>he rented it to me.

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<v Speaker 6>While I was that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>That course is unreal.

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<v Speaker 7>It is. I used to walk out the back door

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<v Speaker 7>and literally had like my little carry bag and I

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<v Speaker 7>played nine holes of golf every day after work. I drive.

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<v Speaker 7>But you talk about yes, Barry was time from the

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<v Speaker 7>time from the old Alltel Stadium, the Gator bowl to

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<v Speaker 7>where I was living in Ponavidra there. I mean I

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<v Speaker 7>could time it. I mean I was just twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 7>cammera down and I got as soon as I walked

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<v Speaker 7>in the house, I threw my keys, walked out the

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<v Speaker 7>back door, had my club's waiting at the door, and

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<v Speaker 7>went onto the course. That's what we were playing.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you were playing every day, what was your handicap?

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<v Speaker 7>What were you Yes, I got the would I would

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<v Speaker 7>shoot in high seventies. Wow, I got to the point

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<v Speaker 7>where I was playing and then and then it's so

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<v Speaker 7>funny when I left. Matter of fact, when I got

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<v Speaker 7>the Cowboys job. You know, when Larry Lacewell called me

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<v Speaker 7>in nineteen ninety nine, it was the summer of I

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<v Speaker 7>was working in Jacksonville, but I was angling for this job,

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<v Speaker 7>is what I was doing. I was standing in the

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<v Speaker 7>eighteenth fairway at TPC when Larry Lacewell called and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>we want to bring you in and all that. I said, great, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I really do appreciate look forward to seeing it. And

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<v Speaker 7>then it hit my shot to the green and made

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<v Speaker 7>the butt and that was really but.

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<v Speaker 6>Like everything's finally coming again.

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<v Speaker 7>But when I came to Dallas. When I came to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, you know, it was like I stopped playing,

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<v Speaker 7>which was weird being from here, but having the ability

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<v Speaker 7>to walk outside and play every single day, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>at least to get exercise. I walked nine holes and

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<v Speaker 7>carried ten clubs and played those ten clubs the whole day,

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<v Speaker 7>you know. And so but yeah, when I came to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 7>and then I was we were laughing about Terrence Newman

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<v Speaker 7>and golf and stuff like that, and playing out a TPC.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's a great, great game.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the second day in a row we've had

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<v Speaker 3>a golf reference. In the opening segment yesterday we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about we were talking about the Cowboys want a mulligan,

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<v Speaker 3>and today we're talking about the strokes and the handicaps

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<v Speaker 3>and all sorts of stuff. It definitely is fun, but

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<v Speaker 3>no such golf this weekend for the Cowboys. Maybe somebody

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<v Speaker 3>will play some golf, who knows. But right now it's

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<v Speaker 3>really kind of a time to focus in and try

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<v Speaker 3>and fix some things. We talked in depth yesterday about

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<v Speaker 3>what a realistic expectation for a bye week should be.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, it should be.

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<v Speaker 3>The coaching staff in the front office, doing some self scouting,

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<v Speaker 3>doing some self reflection, and trying to turn some things around.

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<v Speaker 3>But from a player standpoint, you're off and there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a whole lot you can do other than your own

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<v Speaker 3>personal training and your own specific routines that these guys

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<v Speaker 3>go through. But it gives us an opportunity to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of reflect on the first third of the season as well.

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<v Speaker 3>And you guys remember getting a report card every six

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<v Speaker 3>weeks back in the day for a little this six

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<v Speaker 3>week report guards. He either got a good grade or

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<v Speaker 3>a bad grade, and you didn't want to show your

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<v Speaker 3>parents either.

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<v Speaker 7>Way, learn how to sign their name exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>I love how Chris is chiming in on that one.

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<v Speaker 6>He's like, yes, sir, got it. I want to give

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<v Speaker 6>some six week grades the.

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<v Speaker 3>Report cards for the first start of the season, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to split it up defense, then offense, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm going to categorize the last one as quote

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<v Speaker 3>unquote leadership. Sure in the final segment, but we'll start

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<v Speaker 3>with and these are individuals. I don't want to do units.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to do individuals based on what you've seen

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<v Speaker 3>so far this year.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll start with Trayvon diggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Berry Church I'll let you start here.

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<v Speaker 6>That's grading.

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<v Speaker 3>What would you give Trayvon Diggs in his first year

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<v Speaker 3>or first couple games back from a huge injury last year.

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<v Speaker 8>I was thinking about this a lot, you know, coming

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<v Speaker 8>in on the draft, I saw the rundown. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 8>at the dig situation there, and to me, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough because.

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<v Speaker 8>I played with a lot of good corners who gave

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<v Speaker 8>you both physicality and was able to cover as well.

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<v Speaker 8>And Diggs has made, you know, plays on the ball.

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<v Speaker 8>So far this season, he has done that. He's gotten

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<v Speaker 8>beat as well and get up some passes as well.

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<v Speaker 8>But he's made some plays on the football. But the

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<v Speaker 8>reason I'm going to give him got to give him

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<v Speaker 8>a C plus on this one. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 8>do that is because I've seen too much consistency as

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<v Speaker 8>far as not being able to come down and make

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<v Speaker 8>a play on the run game. And now I know

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<v Speaker 8>that's not you know, the cornerback's primary role, primary roles

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<v Speaker 8>to be able to go out there shut down receivers

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<v Speaker 8>and take the football away. I understand that. But with

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<v Speaker 8>the corners I played with, the great ones, at least

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<v Speaker 8>they were able to give you both you know, the

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<v Speaker 8>Jalen Ramseys of the world, the AJ Boyers. When he

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<v Speaker 8>was at the top of his game, they were able

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<v Speaker 8>to lock down wide receivers, make plays on the football,

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<v Speaker 8>and if the ball ended up coming their way running wise,

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<v Speaker 8>they weren't afraid to stick their head in there. And

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<v Speaker 8>you know, so far this season, I've seen too many,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, inconsistencies. I don't want to say turning it

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<v Speaker 8>down or making business decisions. I don't want to say that,

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<v Speaker 8>but there's been times where hey man, you got to

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<v Speaker 8>stick your nose in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to make the play.

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<v Speaker 8>And if you do that, it turns a ten to

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<v Speaker 8>fifteen yard game to maybe a five yard game, maybe

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<v Speaker 8>a six yard game, and you're able to rally as

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<v Speaker 8>a defense. But to me, I've just seen too many

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<v Speaker 8>instances Baltimore Detroit, whatever game you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 8>where the guys were getting ran down, where teams were

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<v Speaker 8>leaving him on an island saying we need you. We're

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<v Speaker 8>going to see if you want to tackle. We want

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<v Speaker 8>to see if you're want to stick your nose in

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<v Speaker 8>there and do this. And there's just been too many

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<v Speaker 8>times where I haven't seen him come to the calling

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<v Speaker 8>and make the play out there. Now, if there's one thing,

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<v Speaker 8>if you want to stick your nose in there and

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<v Speaker 8>you missed the tackle. I mean everybody, there's nobody's perfect

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<v Speaker 8>out there, but you know it's another thing to where

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the effort just isn't there.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, I'm gonna give him a C plus

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<v Speaker 2>on this one.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I still like his ability to make plays

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<v Speaker 8>in the passing game, but to.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, he just has to be a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 8>I want to call it physical because that's not his

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it's not his cup of tea. But just

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<v Speaker 8>give me a little bit more effort in the run

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<v Speaker 8>game because your defense needs.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a C minus because his technique is not really

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<v Speaker 7>good right now. And we mentioned yesterday about the routes

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<v Speaker 7>that Williams got behind him on the midst of the jam.

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<v Speaker 7>We talk about the third down play against Baltimore where

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<v Speaker 7>they got the to kind of get the first down

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<v Speaker 7>to to keep the to keep the drive going to Dallas,

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<v Speaker 7>could have got the ball back, they maybe win that

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<v Speaker 7>football game. You know, Uh, it's unfortunate his technique has

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<v Speaker 7>not been nearly good enough. There's been too many times where, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>where he's had, he's trailed, he's missed with his hands,

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<v Speaker 7>things that he is generally pretty good at. Is the

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<v Speaker 7>knee injury? Is it one of those comeback things where

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<v Speaker 7>we've seen this before with guys like Pollard and Steel

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<v Speaker 7>and guys like that, where all of a sudden they're

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<v Speaker 7>trying to play their way through some things. You know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you talk about the the stuff with the tackling and

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<v Speaker 7>all that. I mean, I've seen this guy make tackles.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw him in a game against Cincinnati, I believe

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<v Speaker 7>a couple of years ago, maybe last year, where he

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<v Speaker 7>where they ran a third down play on a crossing

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<v Speaker 7>route tackle, the guy made it play on fourth down tackle,

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<v Speaker 7>the guy got the defense off the field. He's capable

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<v Speaker 7>of these things. When he plays good technique, he's one

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<v Speaker 7>of the better cornerback in the league. When he doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>play technique and he doesn't want to stick his nose

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<v Speaker 7>in the action, right there, he's just a guy, and

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<v Speaker 7>right now he's playing like at a C minus level.

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<v Speaker 7>If he approves the things that we've talked about here,

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to get a much better football player. But

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<v Speaker 7>through the first six weeks of the season, I've seen

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<v Speaker 7>a guy that looks pretty average right now, Yeah, or

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<v Speaker 7>below average.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll split the difference between the two.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, see right up.

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<v Speaker 3>So I agree with you and everything that you said

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to Trayvon Diggs. It's been that way before,

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<v Speaker 3>where there's been parts of his career where he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>want to come down and hit.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but like you said, the ability is there.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen him do it before going into the injury

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<v Speaker 3>last year. That was a huge key for him, and

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<v Speaker 3>how well he played through the first three weeks of

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<v Speaker 3>the year was because he was showing physicality and he

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<v Speaker 3>was going downhill.

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<v Speaker 6>That didn't lead to the injury, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 3>That was just a freak thing on the practice field

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<v Speaker 3>and it just was unfortunate the way that it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But his physicality in the game was apparently better all

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<v Speaker 3>the way across the board than it had been the

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<v Speaker 3>year poor. We haven't seen that. I'm seeing twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two physicality, not twenty twenty three physicality from Trayvon Diggs.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's there's ways that he's been good.

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<v Speaker 3>He's had he's made some plays, he's been decent in coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>He's only allowed eighteen receptions, which is top twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>in the league right now. But the thing you got

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<v Speaker 3>to remember, their teams aren't necessarily throwing that direction. They're

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<v Speaker 3>throwing toward Kaylin Carson, They're throwing toward Amonioliwara.

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<v Speaker 7>You also see those explosive plays of the eighteen go

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<v Speaker 7>back and look at him. Those are you know, the

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<v Speaker 7>big plays and stuff like that. So you got to

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<v Speaker 7>be careful.

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<v Speaker 3>With nearly two hundred yards receiving allowed, so that's yards

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<v Speaker 3>per reception about eleven. And he gave up some big

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<v Speaker 3>plays against New Orleans thirty nine yards per reception and

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<v Speaker 3>then last week against Detroit twenty yards per reception.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's not cut it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not that he's not an all pro right now. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not playing at an all pro level.

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<v Speaker 7>He's he's certainly he's baited at all pro level before

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<v Speaker 7>level before. He's just right now, he's not Chris Games.

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<v Speaker 2>About what we see so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Always in saw films, see across the board, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Kendricks, Bryan, I'll let you see Eric Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I felt like they really missed him in

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<v Speaker 7>the game last week. I mean, he every week you

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<v Speaker 7>look up with the tackles and where he's at that

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<v Speaker 7>to me is a C plus level right there. Every

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<v Speaker 7>week he leads the team in tackles, but you're kind

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<v Speaker 7>of seeing some things that some a little bit you

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<v Speaker 7>thought maybe there's gonna be a little bit better coverage stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>You thought maybe there was gonna be a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>of downhill play. There's been times where he's been fooled

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<v Speaker 7>on plays. There's been times where he's missed. There's been

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<v Speaker 7>times where he's been late to the ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>he does, he does find his way to the ball.

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<v Speaker 7>Some of the finish hasn't always been great for him,

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<v Speaker 7>but he is, Like I said, it's nine ten tackles

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<v Speaker 7>a game, but he's getting a lot of opportunities to

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<v Speaker 7>do that. And so I kind of feel like that

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<v Speaker 7>that level right now is right about a C plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I'm in that range as well.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna go see when you talk about Kendricks out there,

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<v Speaker 8>and like me said, he's all over the field as

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<v Speaker 8>far as making these tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>But and I know he's you know, a year level.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you kind of lose a step as you

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<v Speaker 8>get there, as you get older. I was a part

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<v Speaker 8>of that as well. But there was just times in

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<v Speaker 8>previous years where you would see this guy knife through

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<v Speaker 8>the line, like he.

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<v Speaker 2>Would just get through there, get low, get skinny through the.

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<v Speaker 8>Blocks and make plays. We just haven't seen that. We

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<v Speaker 8>haven't seen that so far this season. And I get it.

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<v Speaker 8>It's tough when you got you know, offsive lineman on

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<v Speaker 8>the second level like that and you got to shed

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<v Speaker 8>them to get downhill to make a tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 8>But I've seen guys with worst defensive lines make those

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<v Speaker 8>same plays.

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<v Speaker 2>I played with the Orlando mcclaim.

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<v Speaker 8>I've played with a Shawn Lee where our d line

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<v Speaker 8>was nowhere near the level that this Disney line for

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<v Speaker 8>the Dallas Cowboys had.

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<v Speaker 2>They had guys in their lap.

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<v Speaker 6>And you still believe that right now with Tyrus whet

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<v Speaker 6>and and.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, if we're talking about of the season, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta go about what we've seen from the entirety

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<v Speaker 8>of the season. Yeah, so to me, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 8>not shedding, he's not shock loocking releasing as much, and

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<v Speaker 8>he's and he's the finish like but Brian is talking

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<v Speaker 8>about this guy I'm used to seeing, all Right, you're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna hit a guy and you're driving him backwards. That's

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<v Speaker 8>what I'm used to seeing from m Kendricks, not a

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<v Speaker 8>guy falling forward and getting leaky yardage. Those two three

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<v Speaker 8>yards falling forward, they add up over time. So to me,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, I'd like to see a little bit more

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<v Speaker 8>thumb from him, and hopefully when he comes back from

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<v Speaker 8>this injury, you know, we'll see a little bit of

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<v Speaker 8>that old Kendricks.

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<v Speaker 6>I think I'm a little higher than you guys are.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say a bee just a straight B,

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<v Speaker 3>not being minus just because one, I'm taking in account

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<v Speaker 3>what you got.

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<v Speaker 6>Him for in the offseason, which is what not much.

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<v Speaker 3>And you went out and you got a guy that

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<v Speaker 3>could be this centric part of your defense with the

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<v Speaker 3>green dot, the leadership ability, and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 3>he's trying to do those things where he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get skinny, he's trying to shed blocks, and he's trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do all these things, but the entire defensive line

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<v Speaker 3>is getting washed out. He's not getting a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>help from the interior defensive line. And when he did

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<v Speaker 3>it was in one game, specifically against the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 6>For Mazzie Smith's in his.

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<v Speaker 7>Best game of his career.

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<v Speaker 3>Eric Kendricks is a very capable player, very capable and

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<v Speaker 3>heady player. I think he's probably the best linebacker you

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<v Speaker 3>have in terms of football IQ athleticism. It's just not

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<v Speaker 3>there because he's in year eleven, and so I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>give him a little bit of a break there. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give him a B. But I'll start this next one

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<v Speaker 3>since I went last on the first two, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>start it.

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<v Speaker 6>Off Mozzie Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>So this kind of goes hand in hand to me

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<v Speaker 3>D for Mozzie Smith, straight up D. And the only

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<v Speaker 3>reason I don't give him an F is because I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen improvement and I think from training camp on the

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<v Speaker 3>expectation is you want to see more from Mozzie Smith.

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<v Speaker 6>Check the box. He's done more. Has he done enough

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<v Speaker 6>as a former first round pick? Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>Has he done enough to make me solidify or make

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<v Speaker 3>me think they've solidified the interior of the defensive line,

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not. So I'm going to give Mozzie Smith a D.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to see more from the Giants game. What

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<v Speaker 3>he did against the Giants. That's Mozzie Smith I need.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's not even really the be all end all

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<v Speaker 3>for Mazzie. I want it to be higher than that.

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<v Speaker 3>I want that to be the floor, but instead that's

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<v Speaker 3>been the ceiling so far.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a d and it's and you're absolutely right

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<v Speaker 7>about the thing that always scared me as a scout

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<v Speaker 7>was a flash player that every once in a while

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<v Speaker 7>flashes that ability and then flashes and you talked about

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<v Speaker 7>the Giants game, and you know, there's something there. There

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<v Speaker 7>are there there are say there's twenty five plays. There

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<v Speaker 7>are four to five plays where you go, he gets it,

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<v Speaker 7>that's what you have to do. And then the other

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<v Speaker 7>plays are kind of not negative plays, but they're not

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<v Speaker 7>you know, it's not you can grade him on twenty

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<v Speaker 7>five plays and maybe maybe sixteen of them are just

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<v Speaker 7>neutral plays where you just he didn't really do anything.

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<v Speaker 7>It wasn't you know, it wasn't. He wasn't a he

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't a liability. Last year he was a liability. He's

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<v Speaker 7>far less the liability, but there the expectations for him

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<v Speaker 7>probably were really really low coming in. He had a

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<v Speaker 7>great game against the Giants. You kind of saw that

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<v Speaker 7>ability that he has that they saw at Michigan, but

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<v Speaker 7>we haven't seen that nearly enough. And and and that,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's a big, big problem for them right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give me a give me a D minus.

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<v Speaker 8>And the only reason I'm not, you know, going to

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<v Speaker 8>that F is because, like you guys just said, we

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<v Speaker 8>saw a little bit of it in the Giants game.

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<v Speaker 8>But you never want to be a flash player. You

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<v Speaker 8>never want to be that where you just show up

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<v Speaker 8>every now and then. You always want to have that consistency.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's what makes the great ones the great ones,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the consistency no matter what happens, no matter

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<v Speaker 8>what's in front of them behind them, no matter what

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<v Speaker 8>the team is looking like, they're going to play great.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>So when you talk about a Masi Smith, this is

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<v Speaker 8>a first round pick. Now, this is not an undrafted

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<v Speaker 8>guy that you know, came in he's a project, none

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<v Speaker 8>of that. This is a first round pick. So I

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<v Speaker 8>have to grade him on that, and from what I've

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<v Speaker 8>seen so far, it's a D minus because you know,

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<v Speaker 8>he just hasn't solidified that interior that you know, we

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<v Speaker 8>thought he would be. And there's a lot of pressure

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<v Speaker 8>because he was supposed to be the guy to come

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<v Speaker 8>in and this guy right here is.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to solidify this run defense and it just hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>been there so far.

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<v Speaker 8>So to me, can he improve? Of course he can,

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<v Speaker 8>but right now, from what we've seen so far this season,

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<v Speaker 8>I gotta give my guy D minus.

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<v Speaker 7>See. The thing about what's happened with Mazi is the

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<v Speaker 7>run defense overall. It's been so bad. Yeah, well for

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<v Speaker 7>you know, for three games, especially all three games at home,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's been so bad that it's overshadowed that his

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<v Speaker 7>inability to really make plays. I mean it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>take your pick. You want to blame it all on Masie,

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<v Speaker 7>Well you can blame it on We talked about Kendricks,

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<v Speaker 7>We've talked about Digs, We've talked I mean, everybody has

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<v Speaker 7>kind of taken a turn at not doing a very

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<v Speaker 7>good job playing this run defense. And Mike Zimmer included.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's a defensive coordinator, I mean trying to

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<v Speaker 7>figure out ways to to stop people, slow people down,

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<v Speaker 7>but they have not had the consistency that they need

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<v Speaker 7>to play really good run defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I think the grades that we just gave

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<v Speaker 3>for all three of those players, I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 3>player at each level. Defensive line, linebacker, corner. I did

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<v Speaker 3>that on purpose, but the the it was C, C

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<v Speaker 3>and D. It is kind of the if. Then let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you of average yea, the only player that

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<v Speaker 3>I would give an A two on defense is Jordan Lewis.

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<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, that's what that's. I mean, you could you could say,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, with Tank, you're probably a C plus B

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<v Speaker 7>minus maybe there uh Micah Parsons, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 7>me a B I yeah, I think so maybe yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>C plus maybe there too. Uh. You know. It's but

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<v Speaker 7>if you if you said, hey, give me who's your

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<v Speaker 7>who's been your best, well, your most consistent defensive player

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<v Speaker 7>throughout this whole thing, it's been Jordan Lewis. So if

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<v Speaker 7>you said, hey, throwing a who's your best, give you

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<v Speaker 7>an A, Jordan Lewis would be my guy.

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<v Speaker 8>Interesting, I agree with him on that one. Jordan Lewis

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<v Speaker 8>has been playing his butt off in the slot. What

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<v Speaker 8>about the safeties real quick?

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<v Speaker 2>Too many mistackles for me, too many mistaples.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I know it's it's one of the toughest,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, jobs in the National Football League when you

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<v Speaker 8>got a guy running at you in the open field

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<v Speaker 8>and you're coming down. But that's what you get paid

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<v Speaker 8>to do. You got to make these plays. And it's

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<v Speaker 8>just too many mistackles and I see too many shoulder dives,

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<v Speaker 8>Like I don't know what happened to, you know, just

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<v Speaker 8>hitting and wrapping up and coming up with a body part.

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody's going in there trying to just blow up

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<v Speaker 2>everybody and you can't.

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<v Speaker 6>It's kind of been Donno's calling cards.

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<v Speaker 2>He reminds me about Guy will Cox, who I played

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<v Speaker 2>next to.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, when he connects, hit.

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<v Speaker 7>But you gotta but man, just you know, have you

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<v Speaker 7>ever seen Berry You remember that practice in Oxnard where

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<v Speaker 7>JJ went after Dez.

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<v Speaker 2>He knocked his block off.

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<v Speaker 7>I have never seen. I have never seen a player

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<v Speaker 7>throw hands as fast as he did. He hit Dez

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<v Speaker 7>like three four times.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this the fight.

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<v Speaker 7>I think I got? I think I got the picture

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<v Speaker 7>on my horn phone sweet like because I took it

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<v Speaker 7>when I was watching tape. I'm like, god, dang, he

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<v Speaker 7>hit him. He hit him four times before Dez even

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<v Speaker 7>knew what happens. I've never seen. I was like thinking,

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<v Speaker 7>pro boxer, pro boxer hands. It was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>like ye, I mean, he was it was crazy, but

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<v Speaker 7>will Cox was a nut. That game was crazy. But

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<v Speaker 7>I've never seen I've never seen a guy fight that fast.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quick.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, said he had the bow. Bullcock's got his

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<v Speaker 7>helmet knocked off.

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<v Speaker 3>See okay, I mean he's like you see these dreads

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<v Speaker 3>just flying.

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<v Speaker 2>It was crazy. I love it.

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<v Speaker 6>I love it. So there's the defensive side.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll give Zimmer a grade here in the final segment,

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<v Speaker 3>but when we come back, we're gonna get to the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive side.

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<v Speaker 6>What's the great for CD Lamb right now, gentlemen?

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<v Speaker 7>Is it?

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<v Speaker 6>Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 7>We got Chicago, good town.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't blame him. He's not on our show every time.

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<v Speaker 6>It's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got blockchain dot Com on the on there, there

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<v Speaker 3>we go. Brian brought us my apology, Barry Church. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Kyle Yeomans. Barry was funny when when Brian in

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<v Speaker 3>that last segment he called Manzi, he said, you fear.

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<v Speaker 6>A flash player. You don't, He's not.

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<v Speaker 3>He wasn't calling Mansei flash player, but you fear that

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<v Speaker 3>as a stout. Were you ever called a flash player

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<v Speaker 3>in your career? Or is there a worse in soult

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<v Speaker 3>because you kind of reacted like you kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>shuddered a little bit, like I mean, yeah, what was

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<v Speaker 3>the worst thing anybody ever.

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<v Speaker 7>Called you in your career?

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<v Speaker 8>Like a legitimate you know, any disrespect to you know,

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<v Speaker 8>my guy d Mac and anybody else who cut their

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<v Speaker 8>teeth doing you know, the teams, the team stuff, because

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<v Speaker 8>that's you gotta do it, you gotta do it. But yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 8>I was you know, he's just he's just a special

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<v Speaker 8>team team and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no disrespect, no disrespect.

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<v Speaker 8>But to me, that was extremely disrespectful because I felt

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<v Speaker 8>like I was better than the guys that were in

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<v Speaker 8>front of me at the time. This was year maybe two,

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<v Speaker 8>so I was playing heavy on team your team, but

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't want to get labeled as that because then

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 8>they put you in that category and it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>he can be nothing more than a special teams guys.

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<v Speaker 8>So no disrespect, but you know, to me, I found

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<v Speaker 8>that extremely.

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<v Speaker 6>Just like being called a one trick pony exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no disrespect to TJ. Goodwin, just everybody.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it by no disrespect, but you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 8>I couldn't there.

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<v Speaker 7>There are a lot of terms that scouts well and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, and scouts deserve sometimes for evaluating players need

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 7>to be called the same thing. But when you call

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<v Speaker 7>a player like stiff, oh yeah, you say this guy's

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<v Speaker 7>a stiff player. You're thinking this guy can't move, he's

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<v Speaker 7>not athletic. You know that, that to me would be

0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 7>that that would be that would be a bit now

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<v Speaker 7>there there's some other words too that we can't pronounce.

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<v Speaker 7>We can't do that, and they send in a meeting

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 7>and when you hear that word, you just kind of go, okay,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, let's move on to the next guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like being called slow, but like even then,

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<v Speaker 3>like if your forty time is slow, then yeah you're slow,

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 3>you know. I feel like that's a huge disrespective, Like

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I could play faster than that.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a track runner. I'm a I'm a football player,

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, Like.

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 7>I feel like that.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's about that, you know. I knew I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>a fast guy.

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<v Speaker 7>That was all top.

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<v Speaker 8>Right because I'm not gonna be able to make up

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<v Speaker 8>with it my speed, so I had to be in

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 8>the right place at the rights ad.

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<v Speaker 7>I was just curious.

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 3>I was curious because you did you kind of you

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh, like when you said flash player, like

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want.

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<v Speaker 7>To but yeah, you don't want to be that. You

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 7>really don't. You don't want to be a guy that

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 7>like you make one play and then you disappear for six. Yeah,

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 7>you don't. You don't want to be that guy.

0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 6>No, not at all. Is this guy one of those

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 6>guys in twenty four.

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I mean he just said it, make one

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<v Speaker 3>play and then disappear for six ce D.

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<v Speaker 6>Lamb, what's your grown?

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 2>You don't wear that. I don't want to go first.

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<v Speaker 6>Brian, you want to start it.

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's playing at a sea level right now too,

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 7>and you know, C D level.

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<v Speaker 2>D level.

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<v Speaker 7>It's unfortunate, you know. And this is this is where

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 7>I need to maybe reevaluate what I thought of CD Lamb.

0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 7>And I was believe I was the belief veteran receiver,

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 7>veteran quarterback, and people were trying to tell me that, like, well, hey,

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 7>they didn't have training camp together, they didn't do this,

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 7>they didn't do that. And I was like, it's too

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:03.240
<v Speaker 7>veteran players, they've known each other, they've gotten better every year,

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 7>every game they gotten better, they got better. There might

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 7>be something to that. There might be something to not

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 7>having a training campaign. Now, okay, we're six weeks into

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 7>this thing, right, We're six weeks into this thing, but

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 7>we still have the mistakes of wait a minute, I

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 7>saw that safety standing over the top and I threw

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 7>the ball to the out and you still ran into

0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 7>that safety. You know. We see we've seen the red

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 7>zone turnovers. You know, there's something that veteran quarterback and

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 7>veteran receivers should not have to go through. And that's

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 7>the unfortunate part of it though. What's amazing is that

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 7>And I was just looking at metrics. I'm in this

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 7>weird mode now in my life where I look at metrics,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 7>so I like to look at the film and I'm like, Okay,

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 7>wait a minute, you see this, But does it really

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 7>that the story Ceedee? Lamb's in that mode right now

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 7>where an off coverage, he doesn't have as nearly as many,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 7>he's less targets and less receptions than he's had. His

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 7>number against against press coverage and man coverage are still

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 7>the same, and what and he's still having the same

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 7>production that's been on track. Where he's fallen off a

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 7>little bit is off coverage when people give him state

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<v Speaker 7>they haven't they haven't targeted him and they and he

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.640
<v Speaker 7>hasn't hadn't had the number of receptions that he's had

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 7>in the past. Now, maybe that's because you got some

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 7>other guys that are kind of maybe some step up,

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 7>some guys stepping up and getting other opportunities. But that's

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 7>something to me not getting the ball to Ceedee lamb is.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 7>There's no excuse for that. You know, if there's off coverage,

0:30:34.200 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 7>we saw what he could do in off coverage that

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 7>rowdy ran the other day. Whereas one hand across the middle,

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.480
<v Speaker 7>we saw that. So there needs to be more of

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 7>that involved. But right now, he's not playing at a

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 7>level where he was with Jefferson and Chase and those

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 7>guys that were accustomed custom to see Hill. We're accustomed

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 7>to seeing him play at that level. He's not near

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 7>that level at all.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna go see minus on this one.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 8>And for everything Brian had just said to me, like,

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 8>I don't know, I'm not in that locker room, you know,

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 8>I don't know if it's not the amount of targets

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 8>he's getting, if he's not winning this, that and the third.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:14.720
<v Speaker 8>But he's just not the player that we've come accustomed

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 8>to seeing so far this season.

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>And I can only go back. You know what I

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>saw last year.

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 8>I mean, this is a guy who had seventeen hundred

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 8>plus yards fourteen tds.

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>And no matter what the situation is, there was no excuse.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, we saw this guy get triple team double

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 8>team safety over the top and they were still getting

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 8>them the football. He was still winning on rounds, getting

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:36.560
<v Speaker 8>the ball in the open field and making guys miss.

0:31:36.920 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 8>We just haven't seen that so far from Cede Lamb

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 8>this year. The explosive plays, getting the guy to the

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 8>ball and letting him do work his magic as a

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.560
<v Speaker 8>YAK receiver yards after the catch.

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.200
<v Speaker 2>That's his biggest to me attribute out there.

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 8>Once the ball's in his hands, he's one of the

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 8>best at making guys miss and getting those explosive plays.

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 2>We just haven't seen that so far.

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 8>So to me, I'm gonna give him a C minus

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 8>just from what I seen so far this year, and

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 8>knowing that the player we saw last year was that good.

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was right, like you just said, this.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 7>Is one, you know, Suggs almost like Zach Martin with

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 7>the level of like you've set the bar at the

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 7>sigh you can't get out, and now if you're not

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 7>getting there.

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of curious just in the middle of

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 3>the segment. I look this up and I was kind

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 3>of seeing where he was at the bye week last year. Right,

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to read these two stat lines and then

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you the difference between the two.

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:28.400
<v Speaker 3>So this is twenty twenty three seed LAMB at the

0:32:28.400 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 3>bye week thirty four receptions, four hundred and seventy five

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 3>yards and a touchdown. Okay, thirty four four to seventy

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 3>five in a tudy this year thirty two receptions, so

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.800
<v Speaker 3>only two less four hundred and sixty seven yards, which

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.160
<v Speaker 3>is only eight less and two touchdowns, which is one more.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 7>So in terms of total production.

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 6>Right around the same. Not the same though between the two.

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Last year his yards per target nearly twelve yards per

0:32:55.400 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 3>target eighty one percent catch percentage the comparative to this

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 3>year under eight and a half.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 7>Yards per targets at sixty so.

0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>The catch percentage significantly less. He's been targeted fifty five

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 3>times this year as opposed to forty two going into

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 3>the bye week last year, so he's had thirteen more

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>targets and two fewer receptions. So even though the total

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 3>production as a whole microcosm you look at yard stats, touchdowns, whatever,

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 3>it's there, the production in the efficiency of CD LAMB

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 3>is not.

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 6>And that's what we're talking about. So I'll give him,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 6>I'll give him a c he can get better.

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, And honestly, he's still your best receiver, he's

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.080
<v Speaker 3>your he is your best weapon.

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 6>So I'm not going to give him a D or

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 6>anything close like that.

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But if we're grading on a curve here, like we

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of have been already, he's got to be better

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:48.560
<v Speaker 3>as your number.

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 6>One guy you want to CD.

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Lamb should be nothing less than an anus at any

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 3>point in a season.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 6>And he's got a C right now. All right, Moving on.

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 3>To the rookie Tyler Geydon. I know we missed last game,

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>but we're grading on five games here. I want to

0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>talk about Tyler guid In. What's your grade so far?

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 7>Bury?

0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 6>You you skipped on.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.680
<v Speaker 8>I'll go first on this one, and you know Brodles

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 8>will be able to break this down a lot better

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 8>than me. I never, you know, played the offensive line,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 8>but I.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Could just go bay from very good at it. But

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 2>I could just go back from what I see.

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 8>And I understand he's a rookie first round pick, but

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna give him so far.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 8>I don't want to do this to the man, but

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.879
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonnave him a D plus and and it's tough

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 8>because he's gone through a gauntlet of pass rushers from

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 8>you know TJ Wide, Cam Jordan out there.

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you got the guys over in Baltimore.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 8>So he's gone through a gauntlet of guys. Miles Garrett,

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.239
<v Speaker 8>I mean, he's gone through a gauntlet of guys out there.

0:34:42.280 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 8>But from what I see, you know, the pressure is

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 8>giving up, the sacks giving up, and more importantly, the

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 8>penalties that have become Dravet killers at times. To me

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 8>is why I give him the grade that I've given them.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 8>You know, from from training camp to this point right now,

0:34:57.360 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 8>he's shown those flashes like he has the ability, the

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 8>feet there sometimes you know, hands here and there, but

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.440
<v Speaker 8>he just hasn't been able to put it all together.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 8>And maybe that has to deal with the gauntlet of

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 8>guys he's gone against. But like I said, I can

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 8>only go by what I see on tape, and for me,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna give him a D plus.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 7>Okay, Yeah, it's a D right now. And the problem

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 7>that we're running into is we're so used to the

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.959
<v Speaker 7>Cowboys taking first round offensive lineman and plug and play

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 7>and they're all b's or a's or that kind of stuff.

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.160
<v Speaker 7>You know, we saw it with what you go back

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 7>with Tyron Smith and then Zach Martin, and then you know,

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 7>Travis Frederick, and you know, and then Tyler Smith. I mean,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.680
<v Speaker 7>everybody you've ever drafted has been a plug and play

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 7>and probably been at B plus to an a player

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.440
<v Speaker 7>right off the jump. This has been a real struggle

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 7>for him. And you know, and I think he missed

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 7>a lot of time during training camp. He got sick,

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 7>he got injured, a lot of time on task, a

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:52.359
<v Speaker 7>lot of practices. There were times where he was going

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:55.960
<v Speaker 7>up against Michael Parsons and Tank and looked really efficient,

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:59.240
<v Speaker 7>hands feet. Everything that Berry was talking about was on point.

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 7>He's in survival mode. He's yet to play and I've

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 7>said this on several platforms. He's yet to play somebody

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 7>that he's better than he is. You know. You mentioned

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 7>the gauntlet of names he's had to go through, you know,

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.520
<v Speaker 7>and a lot of times they haven't helped him. They've

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 7>thrown him in the deep end of the pool and said, swim,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 7>you know you're going to play, You're going to be

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.719
<v Speaker 7>single blocking seventy five eighty percent.

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 6>Of the game.

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>That's so true, Swim.

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And so to me, I think that it's we're spoiled.

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.280
<v Speaker 7>We're spoiled with plug and play first round offensive lineman

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 7>around here, and and and unfortunately for him, the transition,

0:36:36.560 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 7>the learning curve from right tackle the left tackle has

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 7>been really really steep for him.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 6>And I think it was anticipated.

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean when when you guys were wrapping up the

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.399
<v Speaker 3>draft show out on paternity leave, but you guys were

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 3>talking about how it's not going.

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:50.439
<v Speaker 6>To be plug and play.

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 7>This is not a plug plug and play play. We're

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 7>accustomed to it around here.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>Correct, So there was going to be a curve. There

0:36:56.520 --> 0:37:00.600
<v Speaker 3>was going to be an adjustment process. You think it's

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 3>steeper than what.

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 7>It was anticipated atteper I think a lot steeper. And it,

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 7>like I say, him missing basically weak or two of

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 7>training camp is big. I mean those were practices. Those

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 7>were padded practice, I mean, and we started to see

0:37:16.400 --> 0:37:18.400
<v Speaker 7>it a little bit when he came back and he was,

0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 7>you know, working and you're like, okay, that was a

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 7>good rep. The one on one stuff was good against

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:25.799
<v Speaker 7>you know, tank or parsons when he'd get the opportunity.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 7>And then we saw Jared verse against the you know,

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 7>against the rams and you're like going, oh oh.

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:36.759
<v Speaker 3>I actually said that audibly on a I think it

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 3>was training camp, I think no, for real, Jared Verse

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 3>beat him on a on a drill, and I was like, oh,

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 3>this is not good.

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and so you started to kind of feel like though, Okay,

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 7>this is going to be a little bit of a problem.

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 7>And then you watched the preseason game against the Raiders

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 7>and uh, the the Raiders were getting into his body,

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 7>hands were outside, hands were outside, the feet weren't right.

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 7>And then you know, week one it was a survival mode.

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 7>I mean, he did everything he could to keep his

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 7>body between him, you know, and Miles Garrett. He did everything,

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 7>you know. I mean, he made Miles Garrett run over

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 7>him to get to Dak Prescott. And he just hasn't

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 7>had a breath when it comes to just you know,

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 7>it's hard to work on technique and get things right

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 7>in the season when you're when you're just you go

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 7>from practice to a game and you're really you're just

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 7>working on steps and you're not really you know, it's

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.439
<v Speaker 7>kind of like, you know, two steps, Okay, we're done.

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 7>Two steps, you know, you're done. You know, getting the playoff,

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:40.160
<v Speaker 7>he hadn't had a he hadn't had a time where

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 7>he could just completely drill on his feet and maybe

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 7>he's doing that this week. Maybe he's going over with

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 7>Duke and those guys and trying to figure out some

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 7>technique stuff that he needs for the second half.

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 6>I'll give him a D plus because we've seen.

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 7>Parts of it.

0:38:56.280 --> 0:39:01.439
<v Speaker 3>We've seen why Yeah flashes again, We've seen why he

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>is that pick.

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 6>He's just got to put it all.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Together and he hasn't had a chance to to a

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 3>significant instinct, whether it's injury or sickness or whatever. The

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 3>competition level I think is significant, but he's got to

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 3>have a chance. He's got a click and it hasn't

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.719
<v Speaker 3>clicked yet. Ye, it has real quickly. Jake Ferguson, I'll

0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 3>start it. I'll say B minus with Jake Ferguson. He's

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 3>been better up to this point than he was last

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 3>year as a receiving possibility, even without one game in

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.959
<v Speaker 3>the fold, I still think he's right now your number

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 3>two or number three weapons, depending on the day, in

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:33.480
<v Speaker 3>terms of your offense.

0:39:33.520 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 6>I'll give him a B minus.

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna give him a C plus. Like you said,

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 8>he's starting not a little bit better than he did

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 8>last year. I just thought he would be more of

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 8>a red zone threat. So far this season, and when

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 8>they got that't had a touchdown, you know, spread him

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 8>out there. He would be able to be a mismatchable

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 8>safeties and linebackers, and we just haven't been able to

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 8>see that so far this season.

0:39:50.840 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to give him a C. I My expectations

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 7>for Jake Ferguson were huge, and you know, it's unfortunate

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 7>we've seen he hasn't made those spectacular plays that he

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 7>made has made in the past. I mean those catch

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 7>the ball that could say the ball that they set

0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 7>up for him to run across the field and he

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 7>was out, you know, and he went up and he

0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 7>missed the ball and misplayed the ball. It's kind of

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 7>to me it was a microcosm of how the season's

0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 7>kind of gone for him. That's a catch that Jake

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 7>fergs easily makes right there. So I don't think, like

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 7>I say, the lack of some red zone stuff, the

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:28.080
<v Speaker 7>la missing some passes. You know, we haven't seen that

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 7>tremendous run after the catch when he gets the ball

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 7>and he's leaping over somebody or he's running through three guys.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a it's a seven yard route that turns into

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<v Speaker 7>a seventeen or eighteen yard play because of run after catch.

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<v Speaker 7>I think that he's been steady. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 7>there's anything spectacular from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure any offense, I don't think I have one. The

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<v Speaker 3>closest would probably be Tyler Smith.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you. I'll tell you what if you want

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<v Speaker 7>to just say consistent play throughout a Hunter lip is

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<v Speaker 7>right now. Hunter Lifkey is a guy that they they

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<v Speaker 7>last week. They didn't hand him the ball, nor throw

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<v Speaker 7>him the ball, but he was used as a blocker

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<v Speaker 7>a couple of different times. To me, anytime you don't

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<v Speaker 7>get Hunter Lipkey involved four or five snaps, get him

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<v Speaker 7>the ball, hand him the ball, do something with him

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<v Speaker 7>with the ball, I think it's a wasted opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 7>think he's one of your better skillful players. He might

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<v Speaker 7>not look that way, but he has size, he's got

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 7>athletic ability, he's got really good hands, he's super tough.

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 7>You know, when he's not involved in the game plan,

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<v Speaker 7>then to me, it's just a wasted it's a wasted

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<v Speaker 7>weekend for him. I would give him a B maybe

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<v Speaker 7>B plus for you know, for how you know if

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 7>you talk about the guys that you're really like, Wow,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 7>this guy's really getting it done. I think Hunter Lipkey

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 7>is right up there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, good call, good call.

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<v Speaker 6>All right, when we come back, it's leadership time.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to talk about Dak Prescott, Mike Zimmer, Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas Cowboys. All right, gentlemen, this is the tough one.

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<v Speaker 3>This one's gonna be a little bit deeper than I

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<v Speaker 6>All right, Berry, We'll start it off with.

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<v Speaker 8>Dak Prescott okay, and we're talking about leadership. We ain't,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, not play or anything like that. We're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, all of it all empassing grade of

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<v Speaker 3>the first six weeks, all right, I just I just

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<v Speaker 3>tabbed age as leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me for Dak Man, give me a B plus.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me a B plus.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, you know, so far he hasn't been playing

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<v Speaker 8>as great as he was last year. But to me,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, he's been that that guy that's been able,

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<v Speaker 8>not in his entire career, but at least the parts

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<v Speaker 8>of this year, that's been able to lift those guys

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<v Speaker 8>around him. I mean, I know, Ceedee Lamb and that

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 8>connection may not be where we wanted to be so

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<v Speaker 8>far this season, but look at guys like Tolbert, I mean,

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.320
<v Speaker 8>look at guys like you know, all the younger guys

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.360
<v Speaker 8>Hunter Lipkey's getting involved as well. Tolbert coming into the

0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.319
<v Speaker 8>season was supposed to be your fourth option, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's been playing pretty well so far this season.

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<v Speaker 2>So give me B plus for Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 8>I like him to take care of the football a

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<v Speaker 8>little bit more, but I feel like sometimes in those

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 8>games he's pressing a little bit to get back into

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 8>the game, so he has to take care of the

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<v Speaker 8>football a little bit better. But give me a B

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 8>plus overall.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.120
<v Speaker 3>I'll do be minus in that same sense, just because

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of times where.

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<v Speaker 6>Dak has helped you at least stay in the game

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<v Speaker 6>or helped.

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<v Speaker 2>You win three games already this year. That's true.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the Pittsburgh game, you don't win without Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 3>You also might not be the way situation without Dak Prescott.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the that's the thought process behind to B minus.

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<v Speaker 3>Red zone turnovers got to stop. There's been three in

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<v Speaker 3>the last two weeks by the same significant contributors. I'm

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.160
<v Speaker 3>not even counting the Rico Doubtle fumble that almost gave

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<v Speaker 3>the game away in Pittsburgh. You got to take care

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<v Speaker 3>of the football, Like you said, If you can take

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<v Speaker 3>care of the football better, I think this offense will

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.480
<v Speaker 3>be in a better way if they can.

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<v Speaker 6>Finish drives too.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the second thing that's been a real knock for me,

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 3>and Jake Fergus plays a part in that. Offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>plays a part in that. Dak is a B minus

0:46:27.160 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 3>to me.

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<v Speaker 6>He's playing good football. He's not playing great football, and

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 6>there's a way that he can play grate fuot.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's a c effort right there. To me. I mean,

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 7>there's expectator. What's really funny is if you look at metrics,

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<v Speaker 7>his numbers are very similar to Pat Mahomes. But we

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<v Speaker 7>feel very different about Pat Mahomes as we do Dak Prescott.

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 7>You know, we feel very different about Jordan Love. He's

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 7>another guy that has very similar to numbers and his

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:52.959
<v Speaker 7>team looks like they're playing very well. There's more things

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.920
<v Speaker 7>that Dak Prescott could probably do. I think the pocket awareness.

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 7>There's been times where I feel like he's really not

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 7>feeling totally comfortable. He might not be totally comfortable with

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 7>this offensive line. I feel like I've overrated this offensive

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 7>line and it's probably not helping him a whole lot

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:10.200
<v Speaker 7>standing there and he just hasn't been able. He hasn't

0:47:10.239 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 7>been accurate on some of his throws, you know, but

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 7>he hasn't also had the opportunity to step up and

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 7>throw the ball. I know, the ball that went down

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 7>the sidelines to Tolbert, if it was thrown a little further,

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 7>that's a touchdown. I think he's missed on some routes.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 7>You know, that's the unfortunate thing with Dak The red

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 7>zone turnovers are alarming right now, that is an alarming situation.

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:33.759
<v Speaker 7>I mentioned him Maholmes. They both throwing six interceptions. I

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 7>wonder if mahomes interceptions or is as alarming as bad

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 7>the past he overshot in the middle of the field.

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 7>To believe it's the Brooks that was just a horrible

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 7>pass that that you know, the safety you know grab

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:51.479
<v Speaker 7>there for Detroit was just as it was a horrible pass. Now,

0:47:51.520 --> 0:47:54.680
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, I think right now he's not playing at

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.759
<v Speaker 7>a winning level. Sure, the level that you kind of

0:47:56.760 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 7>got him at the Pittsburgh he was a big part

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 7>of that. But some of these other games they need

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:03.280
<v Speaker 7>him to be better and it just hasn't happened.

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:06.919
<v Speaker 6>Hasn't happened yet, all right, Mike Zimmer Brian brought us.

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 7>You know, Mike is really really struggling right now with

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 7>the lack of personnel. Mike I thought was going to

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 7>be more buttoned up. They haven't been more buttoned up.

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 7>They've given a big plays, They've given an explosive place

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 7>that's been a real problem. It's a d level right

0:48:20.320 --> 0:48:22.759
<v Speaker 7>now with Mike. You know, I felt like that they

0:48:22.760 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 7>were going to be more sound, more on the screws,

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, not make mistakes, not make mental mistakes, not

0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 7>be at a position. It's very alarming. It's some of

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 7>the things we saw in the in the Green Bay

0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 7>game that we blame Dan Quinn for. Still some of

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.320
<v Speaker 7>the things happening here. It might be a lot of

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 7>your personnel. Mike's a good coach, but right now, that's

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:43.719
<v Speaker 7>not a it's not a winning level there.

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, give me a D plus as well. Like rous,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 8>it's just not at a winning level right now. And

0:48:47.800 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 8>what's alarming is the explosive place that we've seen from

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 8>this team. I mean, you go all the way back

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.480
<v Speaker 8>to the Saints game where you know Carr was able

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.520
<v Speaker 8>to carve this secondary up, you know, and that's not

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 8>even including what they were able to do on the

0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 8>ground game.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, it's a D plus.

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 8>You know, I look at the Steelers game where you know,

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 8>they were minus a couple of other big time players

0:49:03.640 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 8>and they were still able to grind out a good

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 8>win out there.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 2>And understand that offense isn't the greatest.

0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 8>Youre talking about fields and everything, but they were able

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 8>to get pressure on fields and and help this team win.

0:49:13.760 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 2>But overall, to me, it's a D plus.

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm right there with you.

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 2>D plus.

0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 3>And the only reason I think it's a D plus

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 3>and not a D is because he has had so

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<v Speaker 3>many injuries.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 7>He's had a lot of injuries. But he'll to you

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:25.480
<v Speaker 7>that he has to do a better job. He's said

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 7>yesterday in our media availability, he might have panicked a

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:29.799
<v Speaker 7>little bit and some of the stuff that Detroit was

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:30.239
<v Speaker 7>doing to him.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I don't want to give him a pass.

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, like that's a lot of

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.800
<v Speaker 3>decimation on your on your defense.

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:37.719
<v Speaker 6>So you're missing your top linebacker, top four.

0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 7>I mean you have to hold him to understand. You

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.239
<v Speaker 7>have to figure out scheme. You have to figure out

0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 7>if I'm down, guys, I have to do other things

0:49:47.239 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 7>to make it work. And yeah, you know, Mike wouldn't

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.279
<v Speaker 7>ask for a pass. No, he would say, Hey, we

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 7>have to be better. That's the thing I love about

0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:54.760
<v Speaker 7>Mike Zimmer.

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 6>I like him. Mike McCarthy. Final one, gentlemen, Uh, give

0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:00.120
<v Speaker 6>me give me a D on this one.

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 8>Your teams have started out slow on too many of occasions,

0:50:03.880 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 8>and you know the previous years that was one of

0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 8>his can cars starting fast and making sure you get

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 8>on teams quick and you are you know, calling plays

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:13.040
<v Speaker 8>offensively if I'm not mistaken correct. So the lack of

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<v Speaker 8>balance there, to me is alarming. When you're you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you're relying on Dak Prescott to throw the ball forty

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes a game. I don't think that's a recipe for success.

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<v Speaker 8>So I have to get my man a deal on

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<v Speaker 8>this one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's almost a D minus, maybe an even F.

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<v Speaker 7>Because every week there's been a bad loss, They've talked

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<v Speaker 7>about lack of preparation and practice and things like that.

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<v Speaker 7>That's reflective on the head coach. He's the one that

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<v Speaker 7>sets the schedule, He's the one that makes sure that

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<v Speaker 7>practice has done the right way. He's got to make

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<v Speaker 7>sure this team is listening, learning and implementing things that

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<v Speaker 7>they're trying to do. As a play caller, I think

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<v Speaker 7>he's failed them too. I think there's we've seen, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you've seen flashes of plays where you feel like though

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<v Speaker 7>that was a creative way of moving the football. They

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<v Speaker 7>haven't been good in the red zone, they haven't been

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<v Speaker 7>good scoring points. You know, it's been a struggle for them.

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<v Speaker 7>Their offense looks like at times it's just a it's

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<v Speaker 7>a fight just to get at a yard, and so

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<v Speaker 7>to me as a play caller, it's almost an f

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<v Speaker 7>As a as a head coach, it's a D minus

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<v Speaker 7>because his team hasn't been able to get they if

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<v Speaker 7>we keep hearing every week that their practices haven't been good,

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<v Speaker 7>that's reflective on him.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a problem, and that's.

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<v Speaker 7>Reflective on the players as well, no doubt, but reflective

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<v Speaker 7>on him for allowing it to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you mentioned the Green Bay game and some of

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<v Speaker 3>the same problems that are popping up from the green

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<v Speaker 3>Bay game. Same can be said for Mike McCarthy as

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<v Speaker 3>you can for the defense, because the problems of running

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<v Speaker 3>the football, the problems and protecting your quarterback, the slow starts,

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<v Speaker 3>the preparation, all of these things. Checheck check check, check check.

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<v Speaker 3>It hasn't worked this year. It's worked in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>He has three straight twelve win seasons for a reason

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<v Speaker 3>that it's tough to do in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>There was going to be a.

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<v Speaker 6>Drop off at some point.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't expect it to be this year, especially when

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<v Speaker 3>you're paying these guys. You've got talent, got all pros

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<v Speaker 3>on every level of your offense and every level of

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<v Speaker 3>your defense.

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<v Speaker 7>You got to be better.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think we talked about it extensively yesterday. The

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<v Speaker 3>preparation side of things that bugs me.

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<v Speaker 7>That really bugs me.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're talking about preparation and that's.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's hint his words and other players words. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, and so you know players, Barry no offense.

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes players are they're left trying to explain things they

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<v Speaker 7>can't explain, and then they talk about we've got to

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<v Speaker 7>be better at preparation. That is a crutch. But if

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<v Speaker 7>it's a number of guys are saying, it's very telling,

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<v Speaker 7>it's very telling.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all right, those are our report cards offense, defense,

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<v Speaker 3>leadership before we go.

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<v Speaker 7>Brian.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course you're on the break. Yes, you're on the

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<v Speaker 3>Draft show as well on one O five through the

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<v Speaker 3>fan g Bag Nation two o'clock to seven o'clock every month,

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<v Speaker 3>Monday through Friday.

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<v Speaker 7>Check out. We have a job left if the owner

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<v Speaker 7>got rid of it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think so. I think we're good for now.

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<v Speaker 7>We're good for now.

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<v Speaker 3>We're good, Barry Church, you're on the players last especial

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<v Speaker 3>pre opposed game post name average check them out if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't follow their podcast, They're do phenomenal work as

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<v Speaker 3>you can see here over the last two days. And

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<v Speaker 3>since you are on the Draft show in April, if

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<v Speaker 3>the season ended today, what would be the position group

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<v Speaker 3>that you would draft for the Cowboys go?

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<v Speaker 7>I think first round. I think you have to continue

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<v Speaker 7>to look at the defensive line. That situation. You can't

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<v Speaker 7>pass on a running back. I don't think they wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to pass on a running back. I just think it

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<v Speaker 7>didn't fall the right way for him in the draft.

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<v Speaker 7>That's unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree Ashton gent Boise State, all right for Frisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Frisco lone star baby, for Chrispy and for Barry Church.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian brought us check both those guys out on Kyle Omens.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll be back nine am Central Time with a full

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<v Speaker 3>cast and crew of Talking Cowboys on Monday.

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<v Speaker 6>We'll see then.

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