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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys, springing live.

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Speaker 2: From the Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 4: Six past second, Pascot tizonasdown and now.

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Speaker 1: Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 5: Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company,

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Speaker 5: live from the Star in Frisco, Texas, in the SWBC studios.

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Speaker 3: It is the bye week, everybody, and we've got Brian

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Speaker 3: brought us, Barry Church and Chris Beam in the back,

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Speaker 3: back in the fold and game. You're on this Talking

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Speaker 3: Cowboys a wonderful Wednesday edition.

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Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman.

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Speaker 6: A little bit of chilly outside.

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Speaker 3: Right baby, everybody's got a little fleece action.

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Speaker 7: Going on, and Barry's looked like he's ready for eighteen today.

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Speaker 7: You see, that's gotta be able to swing. That's a movement,

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Speaker 7: that's gotta be able to turn on that ball.

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, if I started a timer from when I

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Speaker 3: sign off and I say we'll see you next week

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Speaker 3: on Talking Cowboys, Yes, sir to the point where you

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Speaker 3: t off on whole one. How what would the time

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Speaker 3: be today?

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Speaker 8: That's gonna take me probably about forty get under an hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm on.

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to tell the.

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Speaker 3: Fans where you're playing, because then there will be a

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Speaker 3: line out the door to see Barry Church to me.

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Speaker 7: Off, He'll take your money, he'll take your movie playing

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Speaker 7: with today?

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Speaker 2: Who am I playing with?

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Speaker 8: A guy by the name of Ali and Broderick. Ali

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Speaker 8: played for the for the cardon Us for a while.

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Speaker 8: Projects just stick out there, mad dude's unreal on the

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Speaker 8: golf course.

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Speaker 6: So you got to play with What is your handicap

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Speaker 6: right now?

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Speaker 2: What are you shooting at fifteen? I'm a fifteen okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm just trying.

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Speaker 6: To get better than when we were just talking about

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Speaker 6: around that year.

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Speaker 3: We were like mid forties along the way brought us

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Speaker 3: when you when you pulled out.

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Speaker 6: That jacket today, this fleece today.

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Speaker 3: How how many times have you pulled that out of

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Speaker 3: your closet period?

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Speaker 7: But the l issues, Yeah, I got more LSU gear.

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Speaker 7: That's my love right there. I mean that that I

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Speaker 7: live and die with my school there and yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 7: it's it's a but yeah, I enjoy I got a

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Speaker 7: lot of a lot of my head. I was telling

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Speaker 7: you about my We were talking about Starter jackets. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I was telling me about stuff we used to wear

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Speaker 7: in Green Bay and it was like a sleeping bag.

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Speaker 7: I had to still have this long like jacket that

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Speaker 7: went past my knees that you wore in those games

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Speaker 7: when it was like, you know, ten degrees. Starter used

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Speaker 7: to make some badass jackets. They still do. We were

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Speaker 7: talking about today. You break them out, they're like and

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Speaker 7: I have a bunch of packer ones that I kept.

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Speaker 7: Always kept my rain suits because of the playing golf,

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Speaker 7: for going fishing in them. So like there were a

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Speaker 7: lot of times like I would take all my gear

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Speaker 7: when I was leaving a job and I would just

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Speaker 7: and okay, it's yours, but I take the rain suit.

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Speaker 7: So you might be burying on me, be playing golf,

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Speaker 7: and I'll have on a Jacksonville Jaguar, Jacksonville Jaguar rain

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Speaker 7: and you guys could mention that Jackson Well, I used

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Speaker 7: to when I was in Jacksonville Bury. I understand this

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Speaker 7: I used to live in Panda Vidra. I lived at

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Speaker 7: the eighteenth Green. There was the team doctor of the Jaguars.

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Speaker 7: He let me rent his house. Oh wow, yeah, and

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Speaker 7: so it was like it's kind of a little bit

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Speaker 7: of a funny story. He goes. He goes, hey, you

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Speaker 7: I don't. He is, I got this place at Sawgrass, Doc,

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Speaker 7: I'm just a scout. It's a scout. He goes, two

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Speaker 7: thousand bucks this nineteen ninety eight, and I said, two

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Speaker 6: While I was that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: That course is unreal.

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Speaker 7: It is. I used to walk out the back door

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Speaker 7: played nine holes of golf every day after work. I drive.

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Speaker 7: But you talk about yes, Barry was time from the

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Speaker 7: time from the old Alltel Stadium, the Gator bowl to

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Speaker 7: where I was living in Ponavidra there. I mean I

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Speaker 7: went onto the course. That's what we were playing.

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Speaker 6: So when you were playing every day, what was your handicap?

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Speaker 7: What were you Yes, I got the would I would

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Speaker 7: shoot in high seventies. Wow, I got to the point

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Speaker 7: where I was playing and then and then it's so

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Speaker 7: funny when I left. Matter of fact, when I got

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys job. You know, when Larry Lacewell called me

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Speaker 7: in nineteen ninety nine, it was the summer of I

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Speaker 7: was working in Jacksonville, but I was angling for this job,

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Speaker 7: is what I was doing. I was standing in the

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Speaker 7: we want to bring you in and all that. I said, great, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I really do appreciate look forward to seeing it. And

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Speaker 7: then it hit my shot to the green and made

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Speaker 6: Like everything's finally coming again.

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Speaker 7: But when I came to Dallas. When I came to Dallas,

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Speaker 7: I was like, you know, it was like I stopped playing,

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Speaker 7: which was weird being from here, but having the ability

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Speaker 7: and then I was we were laughing about Terrence Newman

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Speaker 7: and golf and stuff like that, and playing out a TPC.

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Speaker 7: So it's a great, great game.

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Speaker 3: It is the second day in a row we've had

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Speaker 3: a golf reference. In the opening segment yesterday we were

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Speaker 3: and today we're talking about the strokes and the handicaps

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Speaker 3: and all sorts of stuff. It definitely is fun, but

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Speaker 3: no such golf this weekend for the Cowboys. Maybe somebody

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Speaker 3: really kind of a time to focus in and try

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Speaker 3: and fix some things. We talked in depth yesterday about

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Speaker 3: what a realistic expectation for a bye week should be.

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Speaker 6: Sure, it should be.

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Speaker 3: The coaching staff in the front office, doing some self scouting,

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Speaker 3: doing some self reflection, and trying to turn some things around.

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Speaker 3: But from a player standpoint, you're off and there's not

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Speaker 3: a whole lot you can do other than your own

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Speaker 3: of reflect on the first third of the season as well.

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Speaker 3: And you guys remember getting a report card every six

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Speaker 7: Way, learn how to sign their name exactly.

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Speaker 6: I love how Chris is chiming in on that one.

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Speaker 6: He's like, yes, sir, got it. I want to give

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Speaker 3: Report cards for the first start of the season, and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to split it up defense, then offense, and

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Speaker 3: then I'm going to categorize the last one as quote

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Speaker 3: unquote leadership. Sure in the final segment, but we'll start

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Speaker 3: with and these are individuals. I don't want to do units.

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Speaker 3: so far this year.

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Speaker 6: I'll start with Trayvon diggs.

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Speaker 2: Berry Church I'll let you start here.

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Speaker 6: That's grading.

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Speaker 3: What would you give Trayvon Diggs in his first year

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Speaker 8: I was thinking about this a lot, you know, coming

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Speaker 2: It's tough because.

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Speaker 8: I played with a lot of good corners who gave

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Speaker 8: And Diggs has made, you know, plays on the ball.

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Speaker 8: So far this season, he has done that. He's gotten

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Speaker 8: But he's made some plays on the football. But the

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Speaker 8: that's not you know, the cornerback's primary role, primary roles

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Speaker 8: you know, inconsistencies. I don't want to say turning it

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Speaker 8: but there's been times where hey man, you got to

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Speaker 2: You got to make the play.

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Speaker 8: And if you do that, it turns a ten to

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Speaker 8: a defense. But to me, I've just seen too many

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Speaker 8: instances Baltimore Detroit, whatever game you want to call it,

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Speaker 8: leaving him on an island saying we need you. We're

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Speaker 8: going to see if you want to tackle. We want

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Speaker 8: to see if you're want to stick your nose in

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Speaker 8: there and do this. And there's just been too many

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Speaker 8: and make the play out there. Now, if there's one thing,

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Speaker 8: if you want to stick your nose in there and

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Speaker 8: you missed the tackle. I mean everybody, there's nobody's perfect

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Speaker 8: you know, the effort just isn't there.

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Speaker 2: So to me, I'm gonna give him a C plus

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Speaker 8: You know, I still like his ability to make plays

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Speaker 2: Me, he just has to be a little bit more.

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Speaker 8: I want to call it physical because that's not his

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Speaker 7: It's a C minus because his technique is not really

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Speaker 7: the guy got the defense off the field. He's capable

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Speaker 7: right now he's playing like at a C minus level.

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Speaker 7: If he approves the things that we've talked about here,

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Speaker 7: you're going to get a much better football player. But

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Speaker 6: I'll split the difference between the two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but like you said, the ability is there.

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Speaker 6: That didn't lead to the injury, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: That was just a freak thing on the practice field

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Speaker 3: But his physicality in the game was apparently better all

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Speaker 3: And I think there's there's ways that he's been good.

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Speaker 3: He's had he's made some plays, he's been decent in coverage.

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Speaker 3: He's only allowed eighteen receptions, which is top twenty five

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Speaker 7: You also see those explosive plays of the eighteen go

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Speaker 3: With nearly two hundred yards receiving allowed, so that's yards

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Speaker 2: So that's not cut it.

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Speaker 3: Not that he's not an all pro right now. He's

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Speaker 7: He's he's certainly he's baited at all pro level before

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Speaker 2: About what we see so far.

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Speaker 3: Always in saw films, see across the board, all right,

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Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks, Bryan, I'll let you see Eric Kendricks.

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Speaker 7: You know, I felt like they really missed him in

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Speaker 7: You thought maybe there was gonna be a little bit

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Speaker 7: on plays. There's been times where he's missed. There's been

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Speaker 7: Some of the finish hasn't always been great for him,

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Speaker 7: but he is, Like I said, it's nine ten tackles

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I'm in that range as well.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna go see when you talk about Kendricks out there,

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Speaker 2: But and I know he's you know, a year level.

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Speaker 8: You know, you kind of lose a step as you

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Speaker 2: Would just get through there, get low, get skinny through the.

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Speaker 8: Blocks and make plays. We just haven't seen that. We

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Speaker 8: haven't seen that so far this season. And I get it.

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Speaker 8: It's tough when you got you know, offsive lineman on

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Speaker 2: I understand that.

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Speaker 8: But I've seen guys with worst defensive lines make those

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Speaker 8: I've played with a Shawn Lee where our d line

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Speaker 2: They had guys in their lap.

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Speaker 6: And you still believe that right now with Tyrus whet

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Speaker 8: Well, if we're talking about of the season, you know,

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Speaker 8: he's and he's the finish like but Brian is talking

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Speaker 8: about this guy I'm used to seeing, all Right, you're

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Speaker 8: what I'm used to seeing from m Kendricks, not a

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Speaker 6: I think I'm a little higher than you guys are.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say a bee just a straight B,

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Speaker 6: Him for in the offseason, which is what not much.

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Speaker 3: And you went out and you got a guy that

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Speaker 3: he's trying to do those things where he's trying to

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Speaker 6: For Mazzie Smith's in his.

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Speaker 3: Eric Kendricks is a very capable player, very capable and

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Speaker 6: Off Mozzie Smith.

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Speaker 3: So this kind of goes hand in hand to me

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Speaker 6: Check the box. He's done more. Has he done enough

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Speaker 3: Has he done enough to make me solidify or make

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Speaker 3: And that's not even really the be all end all

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Speaker 3: I want that to be the floor, but instead that's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a d and it's and you're absolutely right

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Speaker 7: It wasn't you know, it wasn't. He wasn't a he

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Speaker 7: wasn't a liability. Last year he was a liability. He's

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Speaker 7: far less the liability, but there the expectations for him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, give me a give me a D minus.

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Speaker 8: And the only reason I'm not, you know, going to

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Speaker 8: And that's what makes the great ones the great ones,

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: Going to solidify this run defense and it just hasn't

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Speaker 8: So to me, can he improve? Of course he can,

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Speaker 8: but right now, from what we've seen so far this season,

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Speaker 8: I gotta give my guy D minus.

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Speaker 7: See. The thing about what's happened with Mazi is the

442
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Speaker 7: run defense overall. It's been so bad. Yeah, well for

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Speaker 7: you know, for three games, especially all three games at home,

444
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Speaker 7: but it's been so bad that it's overshadowed that his

445
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Speaker 7: inability to really make plays. I mean it's like, well,

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Speaker 7: take your pick. You want to blame it all on Masie,

447
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Speaker 7: Well you can blame it on We talked about Kendricks,

448
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Speaker 7: We've talked about Digs, We've talked I mean, everybody has

449
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 7: kind of taken a turn at not doing a very

450
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Speaker 7: good job playing this run defense. And Mike Zimmer included.

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Speaker 7: You know, it's a defensive coordinator, I mean trying to

452
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Speaker 7: figure out ways to to stop people, slow people down,

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Speaker 7: but they have not had the consistency that they need

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Speaker 7: to play really good run defense.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think the grades that we just gave

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Speaker 3: for all three of those players, I mean that's a

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Speaker 3: player at each level. Defensive line, linebacker, corner. I did

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Speaker 3: that on purpose, but the the it was C, C

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Speaker 3: and D. It is kind of the if. Then let

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Speaker 3: me tell you of average yea, the only player that

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Speaker 3: I would give an A two on defense is Jordan Lewis.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, that's what that's. I mean, you could you could say,

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Speaker 7: you know, with Tank, you're probably a C plus B

464
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Speaker 7: minus maybe there uh Micah Parsons, you know, you know

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Speaker 7: me a B I yeah, I think so maybe yeah,

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Speaker 7: C plus maybe there too. Uh. You know. It's but

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Speaker 7: if you if you said, hey, give me who's your

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Speaker 7: who's been your best, well, your most consistent defensive player

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Speaker 7: throughout this whole thing, it's been Jordan Lewis. So if

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Speaker 7: you said, hey, throwing a who's your best, give you

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Speaker 7: an A, Jordan Lewis would be my guy.

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Speaker 8: Interesting, I agree with him on that one. Jordan Lewis

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Speaker 8: has been playing his butt off in the slot. What

474
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Speaker 8: about the safeties real quick?

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Speaker 2: Too many mistackles for me, too many mistaples.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I know it's it's one of the toughest,

477
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Speaker 8: you know, jobs in the National Football League when you

478
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Speaker 8: got a guy running at you in the open field

479
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Speaker 8: and you're coming down. But that's what you get paid

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Speaker 8: to do. You got to make these plays. And it's

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Speaker 8: just too many mistackles and I see too many shoulder dives,

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Speaker 8: Like I don't know what happened to, you know, just

483
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Speaker 8: hitting and wrapping up and coming up with a body part.

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Speaker 2: But everybody's going in there trying to just blow up

485
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Speaker 2: everybody and you can't.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of been Donno's calling cards.

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Speaker 2: He reminds me about Guy will Cox, who I played

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Speaker 2: next to.

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Speaker 8: I mean, when he connects, hit.

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Speaker 7: But you gotta but man, just you know, have you

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Speaker 7: ever seen Berry You remember that practice in Oxnard where

492
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Speaker 7: JJ went after Dez.

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Speaker 2: He knocked his block off.

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Speaker 7: I have never seen. I have never seen a player

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Speaker 7: throw hands as fast as he did. He hit Dez

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Speaker 7: like three four times.

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Speaker 2: Was this the fight.

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Speaker 7: I think I got? I think I got the picture

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Speaker 7: on my horn phone sweet like because I took it

500
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Speaker 7: when I was watching tape. I'm like, god, dang, he

501
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Speaker 7: hit him. He hit him four times before Dez even

502
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Speaker 7: knew what happens. I've never seen. I was like thinking,

503
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Speaker 7: pro boxer, pro boxer hands. It was like, you know,

504
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Speaker 7: like ye, I mean, he was it was crazy, but

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Speaker 7: will Cox was a nut. That game was crazy. But

506
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Speaker 7: I've never seen I've never seen a guy fight that fast.

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Speaker 2: It was quick.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, said he had the bow. Bullcock's got his

509
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Speaker 7: helmet knocked off.

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Speaker 3: See okay, I mean he's like you see these dreads

511
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Speaker 3: just flying.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love it. So there's the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: We'll give Zimmer a grade here in the final segment,

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Speaker 3: but when we come back, we're gonna get to the

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Speaker 3: offensive side.

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Speaker 7: Is it?

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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Barry was funny when when Brian in

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Speaker 3: that last segment he called Manzi, he said, you fear.

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Speaker 6: A flash player. You don't, He's not.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't calling Mansei flash player, but you fear that

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Speaker 3: as a stout. Were you ever called a flash player

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Speaker 3: in your career? Or is there a worse in soult

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Speaker 3: because you kind of reacted like you kind of like

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Speaker 3: shuddered a little bit, like I mean, yeah, what was

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Speaker 3: the worst thing anybody ever.

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Speaker 7: Called you in your career?

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Speaker 8: Like a legitimate you know, any disrespect to you know,

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Speaker 8: my guy d Mac and anybody else who cut their

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Speaker 8: teeth doing you know, the teams, the team stuff, because

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Speaker 8: that's you gotta do it, you gotta do it. But yeah, man,

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Speaker 8: I was you know, he's just he's just a special

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Speaker 8: team team and.

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Speaker 2: You know, no disrespect, no disrespect.

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Speaker 8: But to me, that was extremely disrespectful because I felt

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Speaker 8: like I was better than the guys that were in

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Speaker 8: front of me at the time. This was year maybe two,

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Speaker 8: so I was playing heavy on team your team, but

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Speaker 8: I didn't want to get labeled as that because then

609
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Speaker 8: they put you in that category and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 8: he can be nothing more than a special teams guys.

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Speaker 8: So no disrespect, but you know, to me, I found

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Speaker 8: that extremely.

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Speaker 6: Just like being called a one trick pony exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's no disrespect to TJ. Goodwin, just everybody.

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Speaker 8: I mean it by no disrespect, but you know, hey,

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Speaker 8: I couldn't there.

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Speaker 7: There are a lot of terms that scouts well and

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Speaker 7: you know, and scouts deserve sometimes for evaluating players need

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Speaker 7: to be called the same thing. But when you call

620
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Speaker 7: a player like stiff, oh yeah, you say this guy's

621
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Speaker 7: a stiff player. You're thinking this guy can't move, he's

622
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Speaker 7: not athletic. You know that, that to me would be

623
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Speaker 7: that that would be that would be a bit now

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Speaker 7: there there's some other words too that we can't pronounce.

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Speaker 7: We can't do that, and they send in a meeting

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Speaker 7: and when you hear that word, you just kind of go, okay,

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Speaker 7: you know, let's move on to the next guy.

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Speaker 3: I feel like being called slow, but like even then,

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Speaker 3: like if your forty time is slow, then yeah you're slow,

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Speaker 3: you know. I feel like that's a huge disrespective, Like

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Speaker 3: I could play faster than that.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a track runner. I'm a I'm a football player,

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Speaker 6: you know, Like.

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Speaker 7: I feel like that.

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Speaker 2: See that's about that, you know. I knew I wasn't

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Speaker 2: a fast guy.

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Speaker 7: That was all top.

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Speaker 8: Right because I'm not gonna be able to make up

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Speaker 8: with it my speed, so I had to be in

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Speaker 8: the right place at the rights ad.

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Speaker 7: I was just curious.

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Speaker 3: I was curious because you did you kind of you

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Speaker 3: were like, oh, like when you said flash player, like

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Speaker 3: you don't want.

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Speaker 7: To but yeah, you don't want to be that. You

646
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Speaker 7: really don't. You don't want to be a guy that

647
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Speaker 7: like you make one play and then you disappear for six. Yeah,

648
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Speaker 7: you don't. You don't want to be that guy.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all. Is this guy one of those

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Speaker 6: guys in twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I mean he just said it, make one

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Speaker 3: play and then disappear for six ce D.

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Speaker 6: Lamb, what's your grown?

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Speaker 2: You don't wear that. I don't want to go first.

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Speaker 6: Brian, you want to start it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's playing at a sea level right now too,

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Speaker 7: and you know, C D level.

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Speaker 2: D level.

659
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 7: It's unfortunate, you know. And this is this is where

660
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 7: I need to maybe reevaluate what I thought of CD Lamb.

661
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 7: And I was believe I was the belief veteran receiver,

662
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 7: veteran quarterback, and people were trying to tell me that, like, well, hey,

663
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 7: they didn't have training camp together, they didn't do this,

664
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 7: they didn't do that. And I was like, it's too

665
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 7: veteran players, they've known each other, they've gotten better every year,

666
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 7: every game they gotten better, they got better. There might

667
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 7: be something to that. There might be something to not

668
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 7: having a training campaign. Now, okay, we're six weeks into

669
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 7: this thing, right, We're six weeks into this thing, but

670
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 7: we still have the mistakes of wait a minute, I

671
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 7: saw that safety standing over the top and I threw

672
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 7: the ball to the out and you still ran into

673
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 7: that safety. You know. We see we've seen the red

674
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 7: zone turnovers. You know, there's something that veteran quarterback and

675
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 7: veteran receivers should not have to go through. And that's

676
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 7: the unfortunate part of it though. What's amazing is that

677
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 7: And I was just looking at metrics. I'm in this

678
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 7: weird mode now in my life where I look at metrics,

679
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 7: so I like to look at the film and I'm like, Okay,

680
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 7: wait a minute, you see this, But does it really

681
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 7: that the story Ceedee? Lamb's in that mode right now

682
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 7: where an off coverage, he doesn't have as nearly as many,

683
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 7: he's less targets and less receptions than he's had. His

684
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 7: number against against press coverage and man coverage are still

685
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 7: the same, and what and he's still having the same

686
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 7: production that's been on track. Where he's fallen off a

687
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 7: little bit is off coverage when people give him state

688
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 7: they haven't they haven't targeted him and they and he

689
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: hasn't hadn't had the number of receptions that he's had

690
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 7: in the past. Now, maybe that's because you got some

691
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 7: other guys that are kind of maybe some step up,

692
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 7: some guys stepping up and getting other opportunities. But that's

693
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 7: something to me not getting the ball to Ceedee lamb is.

694
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 7: There's no excuse for that. You know, if there's off coverage,

695
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 7: we saw what he could do in off coverage that

696
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 7: rowdy ran the other day. Whereas one hand across the middle,

697
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 7: we saw that. So there needs to be more of

698
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 7: that involved. But right now, he's not playing at a

699
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 7: level where he was with Jefferson and Chase and those

700
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 7: guys that were accustomed custom to see Hill. We're accustomed

701
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 7: to seeing him play at that level. He's not near

702
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 7: that level at all.

703
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go see minus on this one.

704
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 8: And for everything Brian had just said to me, like,

705
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm not in that locker room, you know,

706
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's not the amount of targets

707
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 8: he's getting, if he's not winning this, that and the third.

708
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 8: But he's just not the player that we've come accustomed

709
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 8: to seeing so far this season.

710
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: And I can only go back. You know what I

711
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: saw last year.

712
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 8: I mean, this is a guy who had seventeen hundred

713
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 8: plus yards fourteen tds.

714
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: And no matter what the situation is, there was no excuse.

715
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 8: I mean, we saw this guy get triple team double

716
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 8: team safety over the top and they were still getting

717
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 8: them the football. He was still winning on rounds, getting

718
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 8: the ball in the open field and making guys miss.

719
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 8: We just haven't seen that so far from Cede Lamb

720
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 8: this year. The explosive plays, getting the guy to the

721
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 8: ball and letting him do work his magic as a

722
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 8: YAK receiver yards after the catch.

723
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: That's his biggest to me attribute out there.

724
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 8: Once the ball's in his hands, he's one of the

725
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 8: best at making guys miss and getting those explosive plays.

726
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: We just haven't seen that so far.

727
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 8: So to me, I'm gonna give him a C minus

728
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 8: just from what I seen so far this year, and

729
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 8: knowing that the player we saw last year was that good.

730
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean he was right, like you just said, this.

731
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 7: Is one, you know, Suggs almost like Zach Martin with

732
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: the level of like you've set the bar at the

733
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 7: sigh you can't get out, and now if you're not

734
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 7: getting there.

735
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: I was kind of curious just in the middle of

736
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: the segment. I look this up and I was kind

737
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: of seeing where he was at the bye week last year. Right,

738
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to read these two stat lines and then

739
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you the difference between the two.

740
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 3: So this is twenty twenty three seed LAMB at the

741
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 3: bye week thirty four receptions, four hundred and seventy five

742
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: yards and a touchdown. Okay, thirty four four to seventy

743
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: five in a tudy this year thirty two receptions, so

744
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 3: only two less four hundred and sixty seven yards, which

745
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: is only eight less and two touchdowns, which is one more.

746
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 7: So in terms of total production.

747
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 6: Right around the same. Not the same though between the two.

748
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: Last year his yards per target nearly twelve yards per

749
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 3: target eighty one percent catch percentage the comparative to this

750
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: year under eight and a half.

751
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 7: Yards per targets at sixty so.

752
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: The catch percentage significantly less. He's been targeted fifty five

753
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 3: times this year as opposed to forty two going into

754
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: the bye week last year, so he's had thirteen more

755
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: targets and two fewer receptions. So even though the total

756
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: production as a whole microcosm you look at yard stats, touchdowns, whatever,

757
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: it's there, the production in the efficiency of CD LAMB

758
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: is not.

759
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 6: And that's what we're talking about. So I'll give him,

760
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 6: I'll give him a c he can get better.

761
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And honestly, he's still your best receiver, he's

762
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: your he is your best weapon.

763
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to give him a D or

764
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 6: anything close like that.

765
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: But if we're grading on a curve here, like we

766
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: kind of have been already, he's got to be better

767
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: as your number.

768
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 6: One guy you want to CD.

769
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: Lamb should be nothing less than an anus at any

770
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: point in a season.

771
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 6: And he's got a C right now. All right, Moving on.

772
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 3: To the rookie Tyler Geydon. I know we missed last game,

773
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: but we're grading on five games here. I want to

774
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: talk about Tyler guid In. What's your grade so far?

775
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 7: Bury?

776
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 6: You you skipped on.

777
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 8: I'll go first on this one, and you know Brodles

778
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 8: will be able to break this down a lot better

779
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 8: than me. I never, you know, played the offensive line,

780
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 8: but I.

781
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: Could just go bay from very good at it. But

782
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: I could just go back from what I see.

783
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 8: And I understand he's a rookie first round pick, but

784
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him so far.

785
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

786
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 8: I don't want to do this to the man, but

787
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 8: I'm gonnave him a D plus and and it's tough

788
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 8: because he's gone through a gauntlet of pass rushers from

789
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 8: you know TJ Wide, Cam Jordan out there.

790
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you got the guys over in Baltimore.

791
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 8: So he's gone through a gauntlet of guys. Miles Garrett,

792
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 8: I mean, he's gone through a gauntlet of guys out there.

793
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 8: But from what I see, you know, the pressure is

794
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 8: giving up, the sacks giving up, and more importantly, the

795
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 8: penalties that have become Dravet killers at times. To me

796
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 8: is why I give him the grade that I've given them.

797
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 8: You know, from from training camp to this point right now,

798
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 8: he's shown those flashes like he has the ability, the

799
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 8: feet there sometimes you know, hands here and there, but

800
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 8: he just hasn't been able to put it all together.

801
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 8: And maybe that has to deal with the gauntlet of

802
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 8: guys he's gone against. But like I said, I can

803
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 8: only go by what I see on tape, and for me,

804
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him a D plus.

805
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, it's a D right now. And the problem

806
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 7: that we're running into is we're so used to the

807
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 7: Cowboys taking first round offensive lineman and plug and play

808
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 7: and they're all b's or a's or that kind of stuff.

809
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 7: You know, we saw it with what you go back

810
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 7: with Tyron Smith and then Zach Martin, and then you know,

811
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 7: Travis Frederick, and you know, and then Tyler Smith. I mean,

812
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 7: everybody you've ever drafted has been a plug and play

813
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: and probably been at B plus to an a player

814
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 7: right off the jump. This has been a real struggle

815
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 7: for him. And you know, and I think he missed

816
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 7: a lot of time during training camp. He got sick,

817
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 7: he got injured, a lot of time on task, a

818
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 7: lot of practices. There were times where he was going

819
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 7: up against Michael Parsons and Tank and looked really efficient,

820
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 7: hands feet. Everything that Berry was talking about was on point.

821
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 7: He's in survival mode. He's yet to play and I've

822
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 7: said this on several platforms. He's yet to play somebody

823
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 7: that he's better than he is. You know. You mentioned

824
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 7: the gauntlet of names he's had to go through, you know,

825
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 7: and a lot of times they haven't helped him. They've

826
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 7: thrown him in the deep end of the pool and said, swim,

827
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 7: you know you're going to play, You're going to be

828
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 7: single blocking seventy five eighty percent.

829
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 6: Of the game.

830
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: That's so true, Swim.

831
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, And so to me, I think that it's we're spoiled.

832
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 7: We're spoiled with plug and play first round offensive lineman

833
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 7: around here, and and and unfortunately for him, the transition,

834
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 7: the learning curve from right tackle the left tackle has

835
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 7: been really really steep for him.

836
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: And I think it was anticipated.

837
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: I mean when when you guys were wrapping up the

838
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 3: draft show out on paternity leave, but you guys were

839
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: talking about how it's not going.

840
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 6: To be plug and play.

841
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 7: This is not a plug plug and play play. We're

842
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 7: accustomed to it around here.

843
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: Correct, So there was going to be a curve. There

844
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: was going to be an adjustment process. You think it's

845
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 3: steeper than what.

846
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 7: It was anticipated atteper I think a lot steeper. And it,

847
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 7: like I say, him missing basically weak or two of

848
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 7: training camp is big. I mean those were practices. Those

849
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 7: were padded practice, I mean, and we started to see

850
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 7: it a little bit when he came back and he was,

851
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 7: you know, working and you're like, okay, that was a

852
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 7: good rep. The one on one stuff was good against

853
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 7: you know, tank or parsons when he'd get the opportunity.

854
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 7: And then we saw Jared verse against the you know,

855
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 7: against the rams and you're like going, oh oh.

856
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 3: I actually said that audibly on a I think it

857
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: was training camp, I think no, for real, Jared Verse

858
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 3: beat him on a on a drill, and I was like, oh,

859
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: this is not good.

860
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so you started to kind of feel like though, Okay,

861
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 7: this is going to be a little bit of a problem.

862
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 7: And then you watched the preseason game against the Raiders

863
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 7: and uh, the the Raiders were getting into his body,

864
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 7: hands were outside, hands were outside, the feet weren't right.

865
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 7: And then you know, week one it was a survival mode.

866
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 7: I mean, he did everything he could to keep his

867
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 7: body between him, you know, and Miles Garrett. He did everything,

868
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 7: you know. I mean, he made Miles Garrett run over

869
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 7: him to get to Dak Prescott. And he just hasn't

870
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 7: had a breath when it comes to just you know,

871
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 7: it's hard to work on technique and get things right

872
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 7: in the season when you're when you're just you go

873
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 7: from practice to a game and you're really you're just

874
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 7: working on steps and you're not really you know, it's

875
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 7: kind of like, you know, two steps, Okay, we're done.

876
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 7: Two steps, you know, you're done. You know, getting the playoff,

877
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: he hadn't had a he hadn't had a time where

878
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 7: he could just completely drill on his feet and maybe

879
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 7: he's doing that this week. Maybe he's going over with

880
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 7: Duke and those guys and trying to figure out some

881
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 7: technique stuff that he needs for the second half.

882
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 6: I'll give him a D plus because we've seen.

883
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 7: Parts of it.

884
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: We've seen why Yeah flashes again, We've seen why he

885
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: is that pick.

886
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 6: He's just got to put it all.

887
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: Together and he hasn't had a chance to to a

888
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 3: significant instinct, whether it's injury or sickness or whatever. The

889
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 3: competition level I think is significant, but he's got to

890
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: have a chance. He's got a click and it hasn't

891
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 3: clicked yet. Ye, it has real quickly. Jake Ferguson, I'll

892
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: start it. I'll say B minus with Jake Ferguson. He's

893
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 3: been better up to this point than he was last

894
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: year as a receiving possibility, even without one game in

895
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,959
Speaker 3: the fold, I still think he's right now your number

896
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: two or number three weapons, depending on the day, in

897
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 3: terms of your offense.

898
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 6: I'll give him a B minus.

899
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give him a C plus. Like you said,

900
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 8: he's starting not a little bit better than he did

901
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 8: last year. I just thought he would be more of

902
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 8: a red zone threat. So far this season, and when

903
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 8: they got that't had a touchdown, you know, spread him

904
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 8: out there. He would be able to be a mismatchable

905
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 8: safeties and linebackers, and we just haven't been able to

906
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 8: see that so far this season.

907
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 7: I'm going to give him a C. I My expectations

908
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 7: for Jake Ferguson were huge, and you know, it's unfortunate

909
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 7: we've seen he hasn't made those spectacular plays that he

910
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 7: made has made in the past. I mean those catch

911
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 7: the ball that could say the ball that they set

912
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 7: up for him to run across the field and he

913
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 7: was out, you know, and he went up and he

914
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 7: missed the ball and misplayed the ball. It's kind of

915
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 7: to me it was a microcosm of how the season's

916
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 7: kind of gone for him. That's a catch that Jake

917
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 7: fergs easily makes right there. So I don't think, like

918
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 7: I say, the lack of some red zone stuff, the

919
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 7: la missing some passes. You know, we haven't seen that

920
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 7: tremendous run after the catch when he gets the ball

921
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 7: and he's leaping over somebody or he's running through three guys.

922
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 7: It's a it's a seven yard route that turns into

923
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 7: a seventeen or eighteen yard play because of run after catch.

924
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 7: I think that he's been steady. I just don't think

925
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 7: there's anything spectacular from him.

926
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: Sure any offense, I don't think I have one. The

927
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: closest would probably be Tyler Smith.

928
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 7: I'll tell you. I'll tell you what if you want

929
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 7: to just say consistent play throughout a Hunter lip is

930
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 7: right now. Hunter Lifkey is a guy that they they

931
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 7: last week. They didn't hand him the ball, nor throw

932
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 7: him the ball, but he was used as a blocker

933
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 7: a couple of different times. To me, anytime you don't

934
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 7: get Hunter Lipkey involved four or five snaps, get him

935
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 7: the ball, hand him the ball, do something with him

936
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 7: with the ball, I think it's a wasted opportunity. I

937
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 7: think he's one of your better skillful players. He might

938
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 7: not look that way, but he has size, he's got

939
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 7: athletic ability, he's got really good hands, he's super tough.

940
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 7: You know, when he's not involved in the game plan,

941
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 7: then to me, it's just a wasted it's a wasted

942
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 7: weekend for him. I would give him a B maybe

943
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 7: B plus for you know, for how you know if

944
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 7: you talk about the guys that you're really like, Wow,

945
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 7: this guy's really getting it done. I think Hunter Lipkey

946
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 7: is right up there. Yeah.

947
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: Good, good call, good call.

948
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Speaker 3: This one's gonna be a little bit deeper than I

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Speaker 7: So we've gotta we gotta blow through.

1009
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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 6: All right, Berry, We'll start it off with.

1011
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott okay, and we're talking about leadership. We ain't,

1012
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 8: you know, not play or anything like that. We're talking about.

1013
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, all of it all empassing grade of

1014
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: the first six weeks, all right, I just I just

1015
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: tabbed age as leadership.

1016
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: Give me for Dak Man, give me a B plus.

1017
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Give me a B plus.

1018
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 8: I know, you know, so far he hasn't been playing

1019
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 8: as great as he was last year. But to me,

1020
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 8: you know, he's been that that guy that's been able,

1021
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 8: not in his entire career, but at least the parts

1022
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 8: of this year, that's been able to lift those guys

1023
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 8: around him. I mean, I know, Ceedee Lamb and that

1024
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 8: connection may not be where we wanted to be so

1025
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 8: far this season, but look at guys like Tolbert, I mean,

1026
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 8: look at guys like you know, all the younger guys

1027
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 8: Hunter Lipkey's getting involved as well. Tolbert coming into the

1028
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 8: season was supposed to be your fourth option, you know,

1029
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 8: and he's been playing pretty well so far this season.

1030
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: So give me B plus for Dak Prescott.

1031
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 8: I like him to take care of the football a

1032
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 8: little bit more, but I feel like sometimes in those

1033
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 8: games he's pressing a little bit to get back into

1034
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 8: the game, so he has to take care of the

1035
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 8: football a little bit better. But give me a B

1036
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 8: plus overall.

1037
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: I'll do be minus in that same sense, just because

1038
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of times where.

1039
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 6: Dak has helped you at least stay in the game

1040
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 6: or helped.

1041
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: You win three games already this year. That's true.

1042
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: I mean the Pittsburgh game, you don't win without Dak Prescott.

1043
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: You also might not be the way situation without Dak Prescott.

1044
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: That's the that's the thought process behind to B minus.

1045
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Red zone turnovers got to stop. There's been three in

1046
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 3: the last two weeks by the same significant contributors. I'm

1047
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: not even counting the Rico Doubtle fumble that almost gave

1048
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 3: the game away in Pittsburgh. You got to take care

1049
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 3: of the football, Like you said, If you can take

1050
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: care of the football better, I think this offense will

1051
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: be in a better way if they can.

1052
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 6: Finish drives too.

1053
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 3: That's the second thing that's been a real knock for me,

1054
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: and Jake Fergus plays a part in that. Offensive line

1055
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 3: plays a part in that. Dak is a B minus

1056
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: to me.

1057
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: He's playing good football. He's not playing great football, and

1058
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: there's a way that he can play grate fuot.

1059
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a c effort right there. To me. I mean,

1060
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 7: there's expectator. What's really funny is if you look at metrics,

1061
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 7: his numbers are very similar to Pat Mahomes. But we

1062
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 7: feel very different about Pat Mahomes as we do Dak Prescott.

1063
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 7: You know, we feel very different about Jordan Love. He's

1064
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 7: another guy that has very similar to numbers and his

1065
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 7: team looks like they're playing very well. There's more things

1066
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 7: that Dak Prescott could probably do. I think the pocket awareness.

1067
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 7: There's been times where I feel like he's really not

1068
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 7: feeling totally comfortable. He might not be totally comfortable with

1069
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 7: this offensive line. I feel like I've overrated this offensive

1070
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 7: line and it's probably not helping him a whole lot

1071
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 7: standing there and he just hasn't been able. He hasn't

1072
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 7: been accurate on some of his throws, you know, but

1073
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 7: he hasn't also had the opportunity to step up and

1074
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 7: throw the ball. I know, the ball that went down

1075
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 7: the sidelines to Tolbert, if it was thrown a little further,

1076
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 7: that's a touchdown. I think he's missed on some routes.

1077
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 7: You know, that's the unfortunate thing with Dak The red

1078
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 7: zone turnovers are alarming right now, that is an alarming situation.

1079
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 7: I mentioned him Maholmes. They both throwing six interceptions. I

1080
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 7: wonder if mahomes interceptions or is as alarming as bad

1081
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 7: the past he overshot in the middle of the field.

1082
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 7: To believe it's the Brooks that was just a horrible

1083
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: pass that that you know, the safety you know grab

1084
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,479
Speaker 7: there for Detroit was just as it was a horrible pass. Now,

1085
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 7: So yeah, I think right now he's not playing at

1086
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 7: a winning level. Sure, the level that you kind of

1087
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 7: got him at the Pittsburgh he was a big part

1088
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: of that. But some of these other games they need

1089
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 7: him to be better and it just hasn't happened.

1090
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 6: Hasn't happened yet, all right, Mike Zimmer Brian brought us.

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00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 7: You know, Mike is really really struggling right now with

1092
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 7: the lack of personnel. Mike I thought was going to

1093
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 7: be more buttoned up. They haven't been more buttoned up.

1094
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 7: They've given a big plays, They've given an explosive place

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 7: that's been a real problem. It's a d level right

1096
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 7: now with Mike. You know, I felt like that they

1097
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 7: were going to be more sound, more on the screws,

1098
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 7: you know, not make mistakes, not make mental mistakes, not

1099
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 7: be at a position. It's very alarming. It's some of

1100
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 7: the things we saw in the in the Green Bay

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00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 7: game that we blame Dan Quinn for. Still some of

1102
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 7: the things happening here. It might be a lot of

1103
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 7: your personnel. Mike's a good coach, but right now, that's

1104
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 7: not a it's not a winning level there.

1105
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, give me a D plus as well. Like rous,

1106
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 8: it's just not at a winning level right now. And

1107
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 8: what's alarming is the explosive place that we've seen from

1108
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 8: this team. I mean, you go all the way back

1109
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 8: to the Saints game where you know Carr was able

1110
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 8: to carve this secondary up, you know, and that's not

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00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 8: even including what they were able to do on the

1112
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 8: ground game.

1113
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: So to me, it's a D plus.

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00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 8: You know, I look at the Steelers game where you know,

1115
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 8: they were minus a couple of other big time players

1116
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 8: and they were still able to grind out a good

1117
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 8: win out there.

1118
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: And understand that offense isn't the greatest.

1119
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 8: Youre talking about fields and everything, but they were able

1120
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Speaker 8: to get pressure on fields and and help this team win.

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Speaker 2: But overall, to me, it's a D plus.

1122
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 6: I'm right there with you.

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Speaker 2: D plus.

1124
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 3: And the only reason I think it's a D plus

1125
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: and not a D is because he has had so

1126
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 3: many injuries.

1127
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 7: He's had a lot of injuries. But he'll to you

1128
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 7: that he has to do a better job. He's said

1129
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 7: yesterday in our media availability, he might have panicked a

1130
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 7: little bit and some of the stuff that Detroit was

1131
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 7: doing to him.

1132
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 6: I don't want to give him a pass.

1133
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: But at the same time, like that's a lot of

1134
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 3: decimation on your on your defense.

1135
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 6: So you're missing your top linebacker, top four.

1136
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 7: I mean you have to hold him to understand. You

1137
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 7: have to figure out scheme. You have to figure out

1138
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 7: if I'm down, guys, I have to do other things

1139
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 7: to make it work. And yeah, you know, Mike wouldn't

1140
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 7: ask for a pass. No, he would say, Hey, we

1141
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 7: have to be better. That's the thing I love about

1142
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 7: Mike Zimmer.

1143
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 6: I like him. Mike McCarthy. Final one, gentlemen, Uh, give

1144
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 6: me give me a D on this one.

1145
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 8: Your teams have started out slow on too many of occasions,

1146
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 8: and you know the previous years that was one of

1147
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 8: his can cars starting fast and making sure you get

1148
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 8: on teams quick and you are you know, calling plays

1149
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 8: offensively if I'm not mistaken correct. So the lack of

1150
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 8: balance there, to me is alarming. When you're you know,

1151
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 8: you're relying on Dak Prescott to throw the ball forty

1152
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 8: sometimes a game. I don't think that's a recipe for success.

1153
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 8: So I have to get my man a deal on

1154
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 8: this one.

1155
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's almost a D minus, maybe an even F.

1156
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 7: Because every week there's been a bad loss, They've talked

1157
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 7: about lack of preparation and practice and things like that.

1158
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 7: That's reflective on the head coach. He's the one that

1159
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 7: sets the schedule, He's the one that makes sure that

1160
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 7: practice has done the right way. He's got to make

1161
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 7: sure this team is listening, learning and implementing things that

1162
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 7: they're trying to do. As a play caller, I think

1163
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 7: he's failed them too. I think there's we've seen, you know,

1164
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 7: you've seen flashes of plays where you feel like though

1165
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 7: that was a creative way of moving the football. They

1166
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 7: haven't been good in the red zone, they haven't been

1167
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 7: good scoring points. You know, it's been a struggle for them.

1168
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 7: Their offense looks like at times it's just a it's

1169
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 7: a fight just to get at a yard, and so

1170
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 7: to me as a play caller, it's almost an f

1171
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 7: As a as a head coach, it's a D minus

1172
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 7: because his team hasn't been able to get they if

1173
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 7: we keep hearing every week that their practices haven't been good,

1174
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 7: that's reflective on him.

1175
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: That's a problem, and that's.

1176
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 7: Reflective on the players as well, no doubt, but reflective

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00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 7: on him for allowing it to happen.

1178
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned the Green Bay game and some of

1179
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: the same problems that are popping up from the green

1180
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: Bay game. Same can be said for Mike McCarthy as

1181
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: you can for the defense, because the problems of running

1182
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 3: the football, the problems and protecting your quarterback, the slow starts,

1183
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: the preparation, all of these things. Checheck check check, check check.

1184
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 3: It hasn't worked this year. It's worked in the past.

1185
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: He has three straight twelve win seasons for a reason

1186
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: that it's tough to do in the NFL.

1187
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: There was going to be a.

1188
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 6: Drop off at some point.

1189
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: You didn't expect it to be this year, especially when

1190
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: you're paying these guys. You've got talent, got all pros

1191
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 3: on every level of your offense and every level of

1192
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 3: your defense.

1193
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 7: You got to be better.

1194
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: And I think we talked about it extensively yesterday. The

1195
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: preparation side of things that bugs me.

1196
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 7: That really bugs me.

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00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 3: If you're talking about preparation and that's.

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Speaker 7: It's it's hint his words and other players words. Absolutely,

1199
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Speaker 7: and you know, and so you know players, Barry no offense.

1200
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 7: Sometimes players are they're left trying to explain things they

1201
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 7: can't explain, and then they talk about we've got to

1202
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 7: be better at preparation. That is a crutch. But if

1203
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 7: it's a number of guys are saying, it's very telling,

1204
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 7: it's very telling.

1205
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, those are our report cards offense, defense,

1206
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 3: leadership before we go.

1207
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Speaker 7: Brian.

1208
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Speaker 3: Of course you're on the break. Yes, you're on the

1209
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: Draft show as well on one O five through the

1210
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: fan g Bag Nation two o'clock to seven o'clock every month,

1211
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Speaker 3: Monday through Friday.

1212
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 7: Check out. We have a job left if the owner

1213
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 7: got rid of it.

1214
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 6: I think so. I think we're good for now.

1215
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 7: We're good for now.

1216
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,240
Speaker 3: We're good, Barry Church, you're on the players last especial

1217
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: pre opposed game post name average check them out if

1218
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: you don't follow their podcast, They're do phenomenal work as

1219
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: you can see here over the last two days. And

1220
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: since you are on the Draft show in April, if

1221
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 3: the season ended today, what would be the position group

1222
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 3: that you would draft for the Cowboys go?

1223
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 7: I think first round. I think you have to continue

1224
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 7: to look at the defensive line. That situation. You can't

1225
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 7: pass on a running back. I don't think they wanted

1226
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 7: to pass on a running back. I just think it

1227
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 7: didn't fall the right way for him in the draft.

1228
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 7: That's unfortunately.

1229
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 6: I agree.

1230
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 3: I agree Ashton gent Boise State, all right for Frisco.

1231
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: Frisco lone star baby, for Chrispy and for Barry Church.

1232
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: Brian brought us check both those guys out on Kyle Omens.

1233
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Speaker 3: We'll be back nine am Central Time with a full

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00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 3: cast and crew of Talking Cowboys on Monday.

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Speaker 6: We'll see then.

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