WEBVTT - Re-Entry and Redemption with Lucinda Cross

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on. Family, it's your girl to make a

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<v Speaker 1>d Mallory and it's your boy my son in general,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are your host of street politicians, the place

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<v Speaker 1>where politics is moving on in It's almost the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the month, almost one month in hope. You then

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<v Speaker 1>did something different, change in your mind state, change the

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<v Speaker 1>way you eat me. I've been working out my body, soul.

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<v Speaker 1>My boy g over that survived forty one, tam me up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>but I need it. It's breaking down, destroyed to rebuild, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So go over there and get you some classes. They

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<v Speaker 1>do boxing, they do you know, strength exercises, call everything

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<v Speaker 1>you need is over there. That's my um workout playing boxing.

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<v Speaker 1>They say it can work out all of your body.

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<v Speaker 1>They say it's gonna work out my legs. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I really need, my physical area that needs work at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. You know, of course, the stomach is always

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<v Speaker 1>an issue, especially as you get to be in your forties. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know for women. I'm sure for men as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but the stomach part is always an issue. But I

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of have that under control slightly. Where I

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<v Speaker 1>have issues is that after a while, when you gain weight,

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<v Speaker 1>which I have, it turns into like a cottage cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it doesn't look smooth and like the skin stretched

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<v Speaker 1>out properly on your you know, lower extremity. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to work on. And they tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that boxing is gonna help with my heart rate, my arms,

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<v Speaker 1>my strength, and then of course you know, helping me

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<v Speaker 1>with my legs. So that's what I'm going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be uh, trying to do something other

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<v Speaker 1>than relaxing and watching my Netflix chose when I'm on, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when I'm not working, which is not often,

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<v Speaker 1>but still, you know, I like white people TV. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie. I have to admit this to myself

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<v Speaker 1>because I was looking at Netflix the other day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at a good looking for a good

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<v Speaker 1>black show, you know, some kind of a show, some suspense,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I started doing my res like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how you you like, I was choosing different shows. It's

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<v Speaker 1>said on the top in the percentile area, which which

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty much identifying. It's tracking how much TV you

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<v Speaker 1>watching them? Like what are the shows that you're attracted to?

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<v Speaker 1>And and the percentage for all the black shows was

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty percent six was the highest, but the white

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<v Speaker 1>TV was all like nine eight percent ninety nine, because

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<v Speaker 1>I like the suspense of, you know, the way they

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<v Speaker 1>have so much privilege, the way they get in trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that white people do on TV like we

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<v Speaker 1>as black people could never and when we're watching black

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<v Speaker 1>people and we see our friend and mill was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this the other day too, how when we're watching

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<v Speaker 1>black people on TV and they do something completely outlanged

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<v Speaker 1>to be like, man, ain't watching this show. This is stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>We know this. And that's that's part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why sometimes I struggle with all the fifties fifty cents shows,

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<v Speaker 1>right because I'll just be watching it and it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's not, but I'd be like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that you ain't that's not gonna happen in the real world.

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<v Speaker 1>But the stuff that white people be getting away with,

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<v Speaker 1>they do that they literally be doing some of this. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you wat shows based on white privilege. I like the

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<v Speaker 1>white privilege shows. I ain't gonna lie, I'm sorry, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the activist, like the white privilege shows Lord and Then.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I watched black TV, I like documentaries. I

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<v Speaker 1>like movies about things that actually happened. But no, but

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is powering on like like that happened. They

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<v Speaker 1>based all real story. Some of that stuff is outlandish,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Some of the stuff they get away with,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't the way they'll be killing and what they

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<v Speaker 1>got away with. Niggas they got. It's documented that in

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties niggas was killing like that. They had bodies

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It is niggas. You look at their cases.

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<v Speaker 1>They got cases for catching these buddies. This ship ain't

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<v Speaker 1>all the way made up. It's right now because we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at technology, we're looking at you know, the way

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<v Speaker 1>every state is basically a police state with cameras everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>But back then when it was outside like that and

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<v Speaker 1>he was catching these buddies, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The law enforcement wasn't even trying to stop him at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. People in college, you're you're a college student,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you go kill people and the lunch break

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<v Speaker 1>and go back or or dealing. It's heavy for me,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not listen. I'm not knocking it because I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched it. Of course I haven't. I'm not really up

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<v Speaker 1>on BMF, but I've watched all the other shows. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I've watched Raising Kanan, so I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say it I don't like it. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>that when I'm watching it, I start feeling like this

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<v Speaker 1>right here, it's impossible. When I'm watched the white people

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, I'm like, yeah, that sounds like something you

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<v Speaker 1>could get away with. That You that cops pull you over.

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<v Speaker 1>You got two bodies in the trunk, somebody laying down

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<v Speaker 1>in the back seat, the person in the back seat.

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<v Speaker 1>They say, oh, they're sleeping, and the cops never say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>wake him up. They don't do that for black people,

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<v Speaker 1>but anywhere. That's what I was doing during the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>was catching up on a bunch of uh TV shows

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still kind of into it now. I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>Breaking Bad, which is pretty good. Um So, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see what are the news stories we're gonna talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of things happening, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one thing that no one else. You may

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<v Speaker 1>not care about this, but I do because I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to see what was gonna happen with Alec Baldwin,

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<v Speaker 1>right like, he killed a lady on the set and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I know for sure, or at least I

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<v Speaker 1>believe strongly that if a black actor was on a

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<v Speaker 1>set and killed a woman or any person with a

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<v Speaker 1>gun that is actually supposed to isn't It wasn't supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have blanks in it in the first place, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even supposed to have real like things that

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<v Speaker 1>could actually kill you, right. I think I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that I read that a long time ago. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but I think they would take you out

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<v Speaker 1>of handcuffs and that you would have a charge. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because I'm just looking at the workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at do they have intent, do they have

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<v Speaker 1>malicious intent? You know, I'm looking at the totality of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's he's the person that's completely responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>him having the gun. I think the gun was on

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<v Speaker 1>the set to be a part of the set, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was an armorer, which is like the Black Church.

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<v Speaker 1>We call him the armor bear, who was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be holding the gun, and then I guess at the

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<v Speaker 1>point that he was, he was using it alec bowing

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<v Speaker 1>instead of it having whatever it is that you can

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<v Speaker 1>shoot it and it won't harm anybody. It actually had

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<v Speaker 1>bullets in it and um, and this woman was killed. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why I brought it up is because now

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<v Speaker 1>he's been charged with involuntary manslaughter. Him and the armorer

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<v Speaker 1>has been charged. So that tells me somebody knows that

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<v Speaker 1>what they were doing, they wasn't supposed to happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just wondering, and I'm sure involuntary manslaughter

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<v Speaker 1>there's something where they probably won't get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time or anything like that, right, more than likely they won't.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's involuntary means that it wasn't done purposes. It's

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<v Speaker 1>basically just saying that you killed someone by accident. So

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<v Speaker 1>but man slaughters by accident, yeah, man, any anything involuntary

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<v Speaker 1>just means that it wasn't done purpose, and it probably wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, we gotta I want to look up to

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<v Speaker 1>be specific, but I'm more more, you know, almost sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Involuntary means it was an accident, but someone died. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they did charge him and the armorer with involuntary manslaughter.

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<v Speaker 1>So for anybody that's wondering, how did Alec Borwan just

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<v Speaker 1>shoot and kill somebody and didn't get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been charged. How that's gonna work out in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of jail time? I don't, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think in voluntary right now. Yeah, I don't think they'll

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<v Speaker 1>get any jail time. But I definitely was like what

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<v Speaker 1>when I saw it in the news, I was like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there's follow up because in my mind, I was like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just going wipe it under the rug, swipe it

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<v Speaker 1>under what it's a misdemeaning Yep. It's defined as an

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<v Speaker 1>unintentional killing that results either from reckless or reminute negligence

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<v Speaker 1>the permission of a low level criminal act, such as

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<v Speaker 1>a misdemeanor. In violatary manslaughter is distinguished from others of

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<v Speaker 1>homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or

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<v Speaker 1>even intent, since these mental states are not required in

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<v Speaker 1>violatary manslaw as the lowest category of homicide. Right So,

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<v Speaker 1>so listen, I don't think he meant to shoot the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and you know, you don't seem to think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a shoot a sure thing that if someone of color,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Latino, also somebody who was not filthy rich

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<v Speaker 1>like Alec Baldwin shot somebody. I just don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>easy it would be for in the beginning for it

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<v Speaker 1>to just be so quiet. I think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>something that was on the news being dragged out forever

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<v Speaker 1>and ever, and that the individual who committed the crime

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<v Speaker 1>quote in quote would be somebody who or or they

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<v Speaker 1>would have other opportunities that they lose because of it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say that that didn't happen to him. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying I feel like it would have been different.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do now know that both people are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be charged at least. So that's a little update

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<v Speaker 1>on something probably nobody else kids about with me, but something.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I've told you I'll be tracking white

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<v Speaker 1>people's stuff and now in other white people news. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is something that you know, it's really really serious. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you why this is serious. Right First,

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<v Speaker 1>Governor the Sansis, which is the governor in Florida. He

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely definitely unless there's something in his background, some

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<v Speaker 1>black face or you know, and even that even that,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it has to be something in his

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<v Speaker 1>background that if he didn't kill nobody, now, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some of other things that he that could be

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<v Speaker 1>in his background that would invigorate he could. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but well, you're right, because if he raped the woman,

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<v Speaker 1>a becoming president is a little different. But then Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said grabbing by the pussy, So I mean, Joe Bide,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. Listen, these guys got a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a lot of things. So it's possible that

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what he has in his background, nothing will

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<v Speaker 1>stop him from at least running for president. And he

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<v Speaker 1>has a very good chance of being the Republican pick, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that the Republicans will be putting all their

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<v Speaker 1>support behind him. Florida is a hardass state already, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it is very difficult to beat conservatives in Florida because

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<v Speaker 1>we know what the state represents, we understand the makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know it's it's it's tough there. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Santists he is more than likely going to run,

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<v Speaker 1>and he could very well be the Republican nominee who

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<v Speaker 1>was something. And then at this at that point, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Trump. I think Trump's time, He's in

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<v Speaker 1>his swan song, He's it's almost over um and then

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<v Speaker 1>he could win, right, the Scantists could win if we're

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<v Speaker 1>not on top of him. Now he has banned African

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<v Speaker 1>American AP studies from the high schools. Now this is important,

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<v Speaker 1>right because he has also he's the one who started

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<v Speaker 1>the whole critical race theory banning it from schools. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been working really hard to do something that is

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<v Speaker 1>critically important and that is undermining education about history as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to African Americans or Africans in America. He

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<v Speaker 1>has been on to undermine it and really try to

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<v Speaker 1>reverse everything that people fought to get in the curriculum

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<v Speaker 1>so that not just black folks can learn this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but so white students would also be educated. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>that they had those white folks who are many of

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<v Speaker 1>them are in many of them or the leaders of this.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in what is considered to be the top one

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<v Speaker 1>percent two percent, right, they are their issue. Their problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that more white people, and especially younger white people,

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<v Speaker 1>are becoming more and more aware every single day of

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<v Speaker 1>the oppression and the racism and the suffering of African

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<v Speaker 1>Americans and other people of color. They are becoming more aware.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you have a situation like Kelly and Conway

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<v Speaker 1>during the time, why Donald Trump was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was running for president again

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, probably was. During the presidential election, she was

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter, Kelly and Conway's daughter at Kelly and Conway

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody that doesn't know, at one point she was

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<v Speaker 1>the White House spokesperson or you know, she was at

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<v Speaker 1>the at the podium. I guess she was. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if she was over um uh public relations, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know she was a spokesperson, so she was at

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<v Speaker 1>the podium. I figured she might have been the press secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>She might have been. So anyway, when Kelly and comment, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she was obviously supporting him in his re

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<v Speaker 1>election bid and his and her daughter was on Twitter, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and everywhere else telling all the business talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, saying her mother was a hypocrite, saying that

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump was dangerous. She she was really taking to

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<v Speaker 1>social media to stop her mother, or at least to

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<v Speaker 1>expose her mother's support for a bigot and a racist. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this went on with a number of the young people,

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<v Speaker 1>the kids and the families of a bunch of folks.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, give you another egg example Julius Jones, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Julius Jones. We fought like hell, along with so many

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<v Speaker 1>leaders people who were out there every day fighting to

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<v Speaker 1>get Julius Jones off death row right before, like seconds minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>right before he was scheduled to actually go be executed

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<v Speaker 1>for a crime we know he did not commit. The

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<v Speaker 1>governor was receiving calls and pushed back from everybody. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>you could think of, was calling the governor from white folks,

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<v Speaker 1>black folks, round folks, any and everybody. People with power,

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<v Speaker 1>people with position, people with money. Everything. So after a

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<v Speaker 1>while people started tweeting at writing and calling good excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>the governor's daughter telling her, hey, you know, stop your father,

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<v Speaker 1>Make your father sign what he needs to sign to

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<v Speaker 1>stop the execution. The daughter was responsive and said, I've

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<v Speaker 1>already expressed I'm used that Julius Jones should live right now.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't derogatory. Kelly and Conway's daughter was off the chain.

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<v Speaker 1>She was going live in the house with her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>like showing her mother and being like, you're did her exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the governor's daughter for for Julius Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>his position, you know, his daughter's position wasn't that it

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<v Speaker 1>was um uh disrespectful to him. In any way. But

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<v Speaker 1>she basically let it be known that she sides with

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<v Speaker 1>the people. She supports our perspective in terms of stopping

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<v Speaker 1>the execution against this man. This is important for what

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<v Speaker 1>is happening with the Santis, because what's happening with them

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<v Speaker 1>is saif as they sit down the one percent as

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<v Speaker 1>the two percenters and they have conversations about their homes

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<v Speaker 1>whereas they grew up in environments where the granddaddy was

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<v Speaker 1>a racist, the daddy was a racist, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>learned all about racism and are upholding it themselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>damn it, they are racist. To what is happening now

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<v Speaker 1>is as we integrate into society, because we know that

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<v Speaker 1>one of the major problems that these one percenters and

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise of white folks have is how they are becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a minority in our society because there are more browning.

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<v Speaker 1>The country is browning, if you will. The country is

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<v Speaker 1>continuing the brown especially the Latino population is growing um exponentially, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that that is one of the big pushbacks

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<v Speaker 1>that we have is trying to figure out how would

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<v Speaker 1>all this integration, people living together, people moving together, how

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<v Speaker 1>do they stop their own from becoming sensitive to the

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<v Speaker 1>issues and that we're concerned about, and how do they

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<v Speaker 1>stop them from actually joining us and our movements the

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<v Speaker 1>way we have seen white folks being all up in

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<v Speaker 1>the marches and the protests and giving money. The best

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you can do to make up people ignorant

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<v Speaker 1>is to stop edge icating them on history and then

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<v Speaker 1>allowing them to be exposed to current what is happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the current state. And so he he's

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<v Speaker 1>not just doing this because he woke up one day

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<v Speaker 1>and was like, I just want to be mean. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a part of a plan to dismantle what we

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<v Speaker 1>have worked hard to build and to ensure that that

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<v Speaker 1>our education and the education about our stories and the

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<v Speaker 1>truth about black people and what and and main and

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, the truth about what America has done and

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<v Speaker 1>continues to do to us that they unraveled at every

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<v Speaker 1>single angle, and education is a really important place to

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<v Speaker 1>start it. So that's what they're doing, Um, And that's dangerous, isn't,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, it's intentional and it's and it's because

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<v Speaker 1>what you see with these children, right, what you see

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<v Speaker 1>with your our children, and and they're coming they're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>out against injustice because they're learning, they're doing the actually

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<v Speaker 1>doing history is in the books. They're they're surrounded like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Milton Pot's black people, the brown people in school.

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<v Speaker 1>They giving their history and they're learning in their school.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when their children are coming home and saying

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<v Speaker 1>mom and dad, did you know this happened? And why

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<v Speaker 1>why haven't we done more? And what have you done?

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<v Speaker 1>And when when all this is happening, what were you doing? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to deal with that, the white guilt, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they want to eliminate white guilt. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>eliminate education and actual you know, comaraderie with having us

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<v Speaker 1>having white allies, their children turning into white alies, their

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<v Speaker 1>children looking too over overturn and overrun white supremacy, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and and shut down the systems of white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look into these streets, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these young white kids out there advocating for civil rights.

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<v Speaker 1>So they don't want that. They're trying to study, like now,

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<v Speaker 1>we we can't we can't keep having our kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding how racist America was and what they've done through

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<v Speaker 1>our years to black and brown people. So we want

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<v Speaker 1>to we want to stop this education. So the Santists

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody along that mind state is very very strategic,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they havn't they have think tank that explaining to

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<v Speaker 1>them that in the next ten to twenty years with

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<v Speaker 1>this world will look like and how the education system

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<v Speaker 1>is going to impact on what white people are doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and how you know, they're taking away from the white

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<v Speaker 1>supremacist soldiers, so to say, because they can't keep feeding

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<v Speaker 1>them the tea and keep giving them the koola They're

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<v Speaker 1>not sipping the kool aid no more because they'd be educated.

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<v Speaker 1>So the best way to do it is to take

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<v Speaker 1>it out the education system and make them have to

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<v Speaker 1>get it so well. Is the same way they did

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<v Speaker 1>with slaves for years. They didn't want to educate slaves

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<v Speaker 1>at all because they know to educate them is to

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<v Speaker 1>empower them. Well, they tell us that we need to

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<v Speaker 1>say enslaved people, enslaved pave um. But you know you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the all I can say is we know, we

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we just need to make sure eybody else knows.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the only other point is this is

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<v Speaker 1>why elections matter and why we have to be paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention from local to federal every single election super local.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important I understand that there is a desire to say,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we need to build our own institutions so

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<v Speaker 1>we can educate our own people. But again, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just about educating our own. If we're gonna live in

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<v Speaker 1>a society with others, we want them to be educated

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<v Speaker 1>as well. If you have a system where yes, all

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<v Speaker 1>these governors, all of these people, we don't think not

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is radical enough and that they have

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<v Speaker 1>a strong enough conviction for um, for for justice. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't see that right. We know that it's not there,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do know that there are degrees to which

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<v Speaker 1>things can get much worse, and de scientists is a

0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:41.280
<v Speaker 1>very dangerous individual. So when we're sitting around talking about

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to make money so we can build

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<v Speaker 1>our institutions, that's fine, but we also as leaders have

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<v Speaker 1>to know that the masses of our people are not

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. You're building something, but you're not even

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<v Speaker 1>there yet, because it's nothing that you have at this

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<v Speaker 1>point that is creating or that is that is educating

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<v Speaker 1>a man, the real structure of the system people that

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<v Speaker 1>created finances or just educating your finances. So the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of situation is you're not creating ship to build more money,

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<v Speaker 1>and that ship is cool, but you haven't been Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>has been successful or even intentional about building a system

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<v Speaker 1>that combats this system. Right, So that's something until we

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<v Speaker 1>are and I'm not saying that it's not stages, but

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<v Speaker 1>while you're working on stages, you have to realize that

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<v Speaker 1>another part of the stages is trying is hard reduction.

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<v Speaker 1>We need harm reduction, and not voting in these elections

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<v Speaker 1>is really really dangerous because actually introducing home very much. So.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's a little bit of health information, especially for

0:22:53.680 --> 0:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>women who are out there that her yesterday, I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it on the news. Actually, I was sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's office waiting for my um ultrasound and mammogram appointment

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<v Speaker 1>in which it has received my report and they did

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<v Speaker 1>not find any breast cancer anywhere from under my arm,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the nymph, the men lint whatever, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>lymph nodes things, um, you know, to my breast. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by the way, ladies, I was gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something else, but this is important when you are

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<v Speaker 1>having issues, if you feel a bump of pain or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know insurances some cover different things me personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to pay out of pocket for the ultrasound

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<v Speaker 1>portion of my mammogram because my insurance covers mammogram, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does not cover me getting an ultrasound unless there

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<v Speaker 1>is something seriously wrong. However, the ultrasound is important because

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<v Speaker 1>the mammograms at times it can different things can be hidden,

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>cancer can hide in different spaces. Is so the ultra

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<v Speaker 1>sound is an extra reassurance of what the mammogram has

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>already said. So my first mammogram report said that it

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<v Speaker 1>did not detect cancer. It was negative UM. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit assist here and there, but that's something that

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<v Speaker 1>we as UM women and especially black women, that we

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<v Speaker 1>had and we do have to monitor and manage UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But then the ultrasound confirmed it by going back over

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<v Speaker 1>all the areas. And so you're listening. Even if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a man and you got a woman at home and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know, Aska, when's the last time you had

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<v Speaker 1>a mammogram, and do you think about, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 1>ultra sounds as well. It's important that we check our

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<v Speaker 1>breast because early detection is the best detection and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the best solution for care. And how if you

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<v Speaker 1>do catch something your life can be longer based upon

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<v Speaker 1>getting the treatment that you need. So I have a

0:24:49.560 --> 0:24:53.159
<v Speaker 1>clean bill of health with that area, and every month

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing something for the next few months just to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure all the different things on my body that's together. Anyway, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that New York is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>state that gives out abortion pills. Um. Now, you know,

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.919
<v Speaker 1>we believe in the right to choose. Everybody doesn't need kids,

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<v Speaker 1>some people have mistakes, issues, all kinds of things, rapes,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of things happen, and we are not here to

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<v Speaker 1>judge anybody for the decisions that they make. There's two

0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>different types of abortion pills. So actually I was in

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor's office watching in the news and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a nurse there, the head nurse of one of the

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<v Speaker 1>departments actually was just sitting talking with me, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>she began to explain these two different in this, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, is my UM thought of the day. The

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<v Speaker 1>thought of the day today is about being super educated,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I just told you all about the mammogram

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<v Speaker 1>and then an ultrasound being the follow up. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, your doctor, if your doctor feels like you

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<v Speaker 1>need it, they can put an order in where it

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<v Speaker 1>will be covered under your insurance if they really feel

0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>like you needed, especially for people who have had any

0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>type of augmentation, breast augmentation, you need to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that it's that you're going the extra mile. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is about education, super important. So when the news showed

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<v Speaker 1>that the that they're giving that they're giving out abortion

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<v Speaker 1>pills in New York for free, you can go pick

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<v Speaker 1>them up. She said to me, I said wow, And so, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is this hospital also going to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>that program? She said, of course, right, it was. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a city hospital actually, And so she begin to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a difference education. There is a Plan B pill,

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<v Speaker 1>which is for oops, you know, hey, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>last night things it was to pull out. Wasn't that good?

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<v Speaker 1>The condom got stuck. I'm just not sure. I'm gonna

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>go get this pill within a certain amount of hours.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 1>And the purpose of that pill is to put a

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:13.399
<v Speaker 1>coating around the the the cervix and the uterous area

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>where the it won't stick with the egg, right, so

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it blocks it so that the egg won't be penetrated

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>and you can't get pregnant. And that's the early prevention thing.

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>That has to happen within whatever the time is. They

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>tell you on the plan B pill the abortion. There's

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 1>another pill. This is a pill that when you take

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it it actually for some time. It could be up

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to again. You gotta read read, read the information on

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the package because it can help you basically have an

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 1>abortion later on. It's not the early part that stops

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>you from getting pregnant at all. This is one that

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:57.439
<v Speaker 1>once you are pregnant, it can help to expire the

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy or it will expire the pregnance se and most

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>times the plan is that you take it and then

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>you have contractions you know of, you feel it, and

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>eventually the fetus comes out, right, it will, it will

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>come out. The problem with that is that some people

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>need to have themselves checked so that they in case

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>they need something called a d n C. A d

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>n C is where they go inside and they scrape

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>out anything that may be left so that you don't

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>have infections and things developing in your body from a

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>foreign object or a foreign thing being there, foreign cell

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 1>being in your system. So the problem the reason why

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>education is so important, because we could sit here and

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>act like, oh, it's just the women that don't take

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>care of themselves, drug addicts and streak people, and you

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>know that the class of people that we like to

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>look at a certain type of way. But the truth

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>is that business women get busy, they don't want to

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to the doctor, they don't take care of

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>themselves properly, mothers with two kids, people who are struggling,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>stress and traveling, all kinds of people. There is no

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>specific type for people who do not take care of

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 1>themselves properly and do follow up. So if you take

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that abortion pill and just go about your business and

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>don't take care of your body, it can actually be

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>very harmful. It is not to say don't use it,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't get it. I support anybody needs it. I'm saying

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>make sure that you're educated on the full process so

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>you can take care of yourself and know that you're

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>not creating even more problems than the original one, which

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>was being pregnant and having an unwanted pregnancy. So please

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>get educated people, or that the day today is that

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>we can't just be doing stuff to do it, We've

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>got to be smart about it. And it's just time,

0:29:59.840 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we know, it's enough information out there. The mere

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>fact that she told me this information, and they didn't

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:08.160
<v Speaker 1>say it on the news, by the way they hate

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>on the news. I'm sure they assumed that when you

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:11.000
<v Speaker 1>get it wherever you pick it up from, I'm sure

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a pamphlet and sake and but sometimes here is

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 1>six times from different places. So when she said it

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>to me, I felt like it was important for me

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 1>to say it to others. Good job, Good job to me.

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Can educate the people, educate people on what you're wearing today,

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>so we can get our guest on. Oh well, so listen, man,

0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>my guy Ray rough Riders, he's always supported me, man

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 1>chasing Chicken and he got Jada Kiss. They've been doing

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 1>anything for years, man, So shout out to them. And

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>you see my hat funk. Respectfully, I brought this from

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>a black owned sneakers store in Brooklyn, so you know

0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing I'm still doing my part, pushing you know

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I'm wrong with that. I suppose let's

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>bring our guests on. Let's go. That's so today we

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>got we have a friend back. The last few guests

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>we've had, they became guests, I mean friends after the

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>show because we didn't really know them. Beforehand. But this

0:31:18.720 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>one is our actual friend and dear sister. You know,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>she's my my buddy, my cut buddy. You shouldn't don't

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>leave us anywhere together because we we cuts up real

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>bad everywhere we go. And that's because you know we

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:37.560
<v Speaker 1>we appreciate sisterhood. We appreciate getting to enjoy one another

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>and um and and learning together. You know, we we

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>educate one another, We pray for one another. We we

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>just we we we we talked about our children. We

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time trying to break away from

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the norms of what like the society is constantly pulling

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and pulling and pulling. And we're both givers, um, so

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>we find in a lot of ways to invest in

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 1>one another. And I'm really really proud of watching will

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>send his growth. I remember the other day I heard

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you talking um to somebody saying you're working on your

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>vision board. And I think about this young lady who

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>send across and where she started with people doing vision

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>boards to having an organization that is doing serious like

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>critical re entry work, working with women and others, not

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 1>just in America but around the world. I have seen her.

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll be looking on social media I'm like, okay, that's

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>a check. You got booked all the way and God

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>knows where um. And So I want to introduce lou

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>send Across, which most of y'all you don't know Lucinda,

0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you should know her. She's the founder of Activate Your Life,

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 1>an organization dedicated to supporting women's re entry and reducing

0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>recidivism and recidivism. In this conversation is super important. You'll

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>hear more about Lucenter's um story and why she's not

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>just a perfect guest for the show today, but why

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>she has is dedicated and committed to the work that

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>she's doing. So welcome, will Send across. My sister, Hey,

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 1>thank you for having me. I'm excited. What's going on

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>with you? Man, I'm good. I'm good. Brother Mice, I'm good,

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm good. The general looking good. You always inspiring, you know,

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>I go to get motivation. Like she said, I was

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>talking about my vision board, and the first time I

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>ever heard about the vision board was at the event

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that she was doing vision and I was like okay,

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and then it's something that stuck with me and it's

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>been very well, like like I'm one of those people

0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>that gotta see things but I'm also one of those

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 1>people that don't like to plan. So I'm like in between,

0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>like I'm very creative. I like to just get to things,

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like to plan. So that's one of

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>my things. Pet peevele minds that I three that I said,

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I really want to get over. I wanted to start

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 1>planning things out. I want to start writing things down.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to start visually seeing and putting things in order.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>So that's that was one of the things I did,

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>and you was a big inspiration for that. So I

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>want to say thank you. I pad myself going back

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>to get a man involved. That's huge. Yeah, it's you,

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. So so tell us about um, tell us

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.879
<v Speaker 1>about activate your life, you know, because we I want

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go into you. But I want to hear

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>about act because it's so deep. You got so many

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 1>layers of dopeness, you know. So we're gonna, well, listen,

0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take I'm gonna take all the flowers right now.

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Hold on, Yeah, hear my speaking. But um, what I

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>will say because it's to me, this is important, right,

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>this is part of reducing recipivism. And so for me

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>with the organization, activate your life. It started from my

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>own personal journey of being in concerrated at risk. You

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>just out there and trying to find a quick hustle.

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>No one told me how to plan, No one told

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>me how to set goals. Where I came from, in

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the BRONX b X, in the building where I came from,

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>there was there was no one coming to the community

0:35:04.360 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to save you or to say hey, I've made it

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and this is what you could possibly become. So either

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you idolize those who were on the street or you

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>became a part of the street for me in my experience,

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>and so we activate your life. What happens after you've

0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>gone through a traumatic situation, What happens after you've been

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>in concentrated or had some type of criminal encounter. What

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>happens who where's the plan? Where's the process? Because you

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>end up going back to sometimes the same communities, to

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the same people who's doing a lot of the same things,

0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and no one, there's no growth, And so we activate

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 1>your life. Our goals is we're on the four pillars education, empowerment, entrepreneurship,

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and economics, and so we focus on those four pillars

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>to say, listen, we can help you with the plan,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>and that leads back to vision boarding. But we let's help,

0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:56.439
<v Speaker 1>let's create a plan for success. What does this look like?

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 1>What do you use these resources that you run into

0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>so ensure not only do we bridge the gap between

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>partnerships that we create almost every week with other re

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>entry organizations and halfway houses, but just really stepping out

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:12.960
<v Speaker 1>into the community and say, listen, without my lashes and

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 1>all this other stuff, I was here and I was

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>able to create a plan and let me show you

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>how to do this. And we have mentors and mentees

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that link up to support one another. So I love

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the organization. I love what I do, and it's more

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of the reason why I wake up every day when

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:30.439
<v Speaker 1>I feel like saying not today, no, go walk into

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 1>that halfway house and let those ladies know they could

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>do it. How long have you been in existence? How

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>long has activated been in existence? So I've been doing

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the work with this since two thousand and ten officially

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>and under the nonprofit because people with my mentors said,

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you gotta you gotta do something. Let me turn this

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>into a professional business, uh, two thousand and fifteen. So

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the main program and is going into working with women

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 1>who are at risk, or you just work with women

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.840
<v Speaker 1>because I see women, which, by the way, what I

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was getting ready to say or what I am gonna

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.479
<v Speaker 1>say to prove, to prove a point about the level

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>of ignorance that a lot of people have, is that

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>these women that I see, they gotta they look good

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>as hell, Okay, that go to your events and they

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>spending a little bit of cheese to get in right,

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So it's not like you just doing stuff for free.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:28.759
<v Speaker 1>All over you have women who want to pay you,

0:37:28.800 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>because I've seen I've heard them like investing in you

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>so that you could come and work with them. And

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I talk about the ignorance is because

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>one would think that that group is a group of

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 1>people who was like busted and broke down, and they

0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>do not look that way at all. Yeah no, And

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>that's that's where that's the for profit side, right, that

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>leads to being a mentor for the nonprofit side. But

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>those women that show up at these events that we

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>call it, we nation those women that show up, we

0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:03.560
<v Speaker 1>we want to combine an executive and a woman who's recently.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Most of the women we work with are already released,

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:08.879
<v Speaker 1>right They've been released for several years. Some of them

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>are working on their second third masters. Right, it's not

0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a game out here. They're highly educated. They are supporting

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>their families. But women who have been released on working

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 1>on their second and third masters. Yes, my god. There's

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>an organization called College and Community Fellowship and they support

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and push these women into getting their degrees and getting educated.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's it's phenomenal. But what happens when

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>you come out and you don't know where to go?

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Everyone is telling you just get a job. So bridging

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>the gap with these resources, let's you know, okay, here

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we can get some money. My goal, My job is

0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:44.879
<v Speaker 1>to sit at the table with Delta Airlines, to sit

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>at the table with Capital One. We need funding to

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>make sure that these women have what they need to

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>succeed and thrive economically. And and are you hiring them?

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, are you hiring them not just you know,

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:00.319
<v Speaker 1>making it a check on the box. So if this

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>is what you want to do, are you really doing

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the work? And if so, let's see the numbers. What

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 1>does that look like? When I think about I hear

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>that black women are the biggest growing population in prisons

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>right now, right, so I want to know, just from

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a standpoint of professionalism, what are the biggest challenges that

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 1>black women are having that that you find that taking

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>them to jail, and then what what the challenge that

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 1>you have when they re enter society. AH, lack of

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>lack of funding, finance, and lack of support, family support.

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 1>A lot of times these women, A big part of it,

0:39:35.320 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>the a big percentage of it is not just it's

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>not having that family support. There is no support system.

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:44.439
<v Speaker 1>They are the whole support system, either for their their

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>families or for their children. And then when they come home,

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>they still have to fall back into place and pick

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:53.360
<v Speaker 1>up those pieces, still trying to put their own life together.

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>It's extremely tough. And then not to have the financial resources.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Not everyone who comes home is running to the social

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>service department. They don't want to do that. There's a

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>level of of pride as well, and I love that.

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I admire that, But the main thing is just not

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 1>having those resources, and then they end up falling. This

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.280
<v Speaker 1>is why reducing recidivism is important. They end up falling

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in some of those same old patterns. Let me just

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.640
<v Speaker 1>do this to get here, let me just do this

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to to level up and and and get myself on

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to on a playing field. So it's unpacked that. Let's

0:40:27.280 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 1>unpack that because more specifically, like what is it exactly

0:40:32.800 --> 0:40:35.480
<v Speaker 1>that they're getting charged with that's making them the fastest

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>going population? And then what are we doing for our

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:42.319
<v Speaker 1>men that is slowing down the amount of black men

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>going in? So is it that there is programming more

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>so targeted towards trying to keep black men out of prison?

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.479
<v Speaker 1>And black women are not included in that just because

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.439
<v Speaker 1>people don't see us as being at risk as much

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.600
<v Speaker 1>like what would you say? The issues are all right,

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 1>let's too and I love this, I love these questions

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>who you know, but these women are on these men

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:11.360
<v Speaker 1>on these cases as well, and a lot of times

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>they're taking the charge to less of the time for

0:41:15.440 --> 0:41:19.839
<v Speaker 1>their partner. So listen, I can't take this charge, baby,

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, can you? And so a lot of times

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the weight is also put on them a lot of

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 1>times with these cases or they're connected in the case

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>because if he's driving in the car, you was driving

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>with him in the car. He's got the minx, you

0:41:30.920 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>got the minks, he got the cars, you've got the cars.

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>So the charges is a big on drugs. Big on drugs,

0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>big on the scamming right now, Identity theft huge, right,

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So outside of just drugs, it's the it's the identity

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>theft and whether it's trafficking or whether it's possession, that's

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>the main you know what I'm seeing now on the statistics.

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:58.160
<v Speaker 1>The other side of it is these women are taking

0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>these charges. They have no problem with saying, all right,

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll do this one to three so he doesn't get

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.840
<v Speaker 1>this because it's harder. The laws are a lot harder

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>on the man. So I'll do this one to three

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.400
<v Speaker 1>for you so you don't have to do this seven attend.

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Somebody has to be home for our child, damn and

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and and most of the times there is no planned

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>in place to say, listen, this is what we're doing.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Even if she wasn't involved. A lot of times the

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>women may not have may not be involved, but because

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>they're connected, and there goes the conspiracy. It the system

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>is tricky. It is they leave no wiggle room, they

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.800
<v Speaker 1>leave no room to to look at the true case

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 1>in the matter. And it's sad, it's it's it's sad,

0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>but we were pushing forward. We're pushing forward. We have

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to look at these policies. We have to look at

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>these laws, We have to look at why are we

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>constantly sending these men back once they want. It's like

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>once you touch down one time with the criminal justice system,

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>there goes to keep your name rotating, and it's it's

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:03.480
<v Speaker 1>it's if you can never get free from that number

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and become the name that you are for both sides,

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>men and women. So when I listened to this, right,

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was talking to Remy, my sister, the rapper,

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the entrepreneur, Remy Ma from the Bronx, and we was

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.919
<v Speaker 1>talking about prison and she was just talking about how

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 1>the visiting floors in the prison is nobody coming to

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>visit these women. There's no men when these visiting floors,

0:43:28.600 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but she used to be down there is probably two

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>or three visits. And I'm listening to you, and I

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 1>know also well that a lot of these women are

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:38.320
<v Speaker 1>taking these charges. A lot of men got three strikes

0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yo, look you're gonna get four or

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>five years. They're gonna get me twenty five or thirty.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.840
<v Speaker 1>And women are holding their men down. So what happens

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.920
<v Speaker 1>so all these men when they come back in society

0:43:48.960 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>are men taking kid of these women or they do

0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you see that happening? Are structures I mean just from

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>just not even just from the institutional stuff, just knowing

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you being a woman who is formally incarcerated and having

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>friends who have to our men playing their roles. Like

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 1>when women get back society are they holding them down?

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Like are they trying to rebuild them? Because there's a

0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of women that when men get home, they got

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 1>women that's I got a place for you to live

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>this So I don't is that happening because I want,

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I want because I want us to do better as

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:25.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of them. Because I'm I'm constant and I'm

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 1>consistent on calling up man because I feel like we've

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:34.240
<v Speaker 1>we've fallen from a level of just grace, a level

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 1>of strength, like a level of just responsibility. I don't

0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>see it, and I'm saying us. I don't just say

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:42.839
<v Speaker 1>me because I'm even myself. I got to call out

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.880
<v Speaker 1>certain ship because society has normalized bullshit for us. So

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you so that it ain't just coming from me.

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear what you have to say so

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>men can be listening and stopping. Oh y'all just mad

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and wouldn't know. You gotta listen to the reality of

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:00.080
<v Speaker 1>what's going on when people are dealing with situations. Is

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.480
<v Speaker 1>a woman are telling you, this is ari reality, this

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 1>is what we're dealing with. You're gonna listen to it

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 1>so that you could do better, So not to give

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>a BS pass right to what you was just saying

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 1>the mindset, where's the reform? So yes, he may come

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:18.760
<v Speaker 1>home and she's got the house and she's been holding

0:45:18.760 --> 0:45:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it down, but where's the reform for him mentally? And

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>where's the reform for her? Without having the mail at home?

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 1>How can we expect Now, we're two different people. One

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 1>is both are institutionalized. Just because one was in prison

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and one was at home taking care of family or

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>taking care of herself. Both are institutionalized. There's no reform,

0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 1>there's no support, there's no therapy, there's no conversation on

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the female side or the woman's side. She has expectations,

0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>most likely won't be mad because he also is trying.

0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:55.520
<v Speaker 1>He has expectations and a vision and it's just like, listen,

0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to get back in the groove. You you, you,

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you two on me? You? What's what's going on and

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I can only speak as a woman's side just here

0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 1>and what men are saying. But they're both learning each

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:09.960
<v Speaker 1>other because you're two different people. Now, what's the home

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>is broken? This is my point of view, my experience

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:17.400
<v Speaker 1>and observation. It's broken. We have to start from ground zero.

0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 1>We can't start while I was there for you, holding

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 1>you down for eight years. Okay, but my eight years.

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>You know how much stuff and stress and stuff that

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I gotta hide from you. That's that I'm sleeping with

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 1>that night. And then you want me to wake up

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.640
<v Speaker 1>and still be in a great mood and ask you

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>how is your day and did you get the kids

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to school? It doesn't work like that, and vice versa.

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.839
<v Speaker 1>She's on the same level. She's like, you think it's

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>just about you looking cute and everybody giving you a

0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>bag to get yourself together. We've been struggling here. You know.

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 1>You know how many times I have to show order

0:46:47.239 --> 0:46:50.359
<v Speaker 1>the show casts. So both are damaged because the home

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>has been broken for whatever reason. And there is no

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>real hut back together pattern right because mom has been

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:01.320
<v Speaker 1>for the men's for the women and who is is inside?

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:05.239
<v Speaker 1>And remy mins correct inside you don't see grandma's bringing

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>the babies, right, So but with as grandpa, Okay, grandpa

0:47:09.440 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>is not in the home at all, and then you

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.839
<v Speaker 1>look the generation before that, So it's men missing out

0:47:14.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>of the home structure, missing out of the home. There's

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>no foundation to start with, right, We just was having fun.

0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Then the foundation broke because somebody got inconcierrated, and now

0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we're coming back into brokenness at the same time. So

0:47:29.400 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to mend that together. Listen, I've been there

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:35.319
<v Speaker 1>on both sides, doing the visits to I gotta go

0:47:35.360 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 1>see my boyfriend. So then it was on me, you know,

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>shipping out the packages, and then I'm like, hey, nobody's

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>sending me packages. Everybody in the hood was enjoying the

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.360
<v Speaker 1>sneakers and everything. Nobody sent me a magazine. So it

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>builds a level of bitterness and anger and frustration that

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>it's never healed. It's a healing issue. I don't think

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's something that we can put on men or women.

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>There's no healing. There was no healing from the start,

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.919
<v Speaker 1>so we can't expect it to be healing in the

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 1>process of us trying to grow and get back into

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>let me be a woman and not my number. Let

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.919
<v Speaker 1>me be a man and not what society is calling

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>me is the statistic who's just they're just waiting to

0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 1>lock me up again. So you said we were just

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:22.480
<v Speaker 1>having fun and then it all blew upright, life just changed?

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>So talk about that for you, right, and your story

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 1>of how you ended up incarcerated, because when I've heard

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>this story before, sounds like it was all just a

0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>good time and then it just wasn't you know, So

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 1>what's that transition like from it being a good time

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.880
<v Speaker 1>to it being some serious, serious stuff? And what was

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:48.720
<v Speaker 1>life like being incarcerated at what age were you? Eight? Nineteen?

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 1>The fun? For me, it started out of a need, right,

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.120
<v Speaker 1>And you hear that often. I hear it often in

0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the street. Listen, I need to do this. You know

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>my mother doesn't happen. So for me, it started as

0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:00.319
<v Speaker 1>a need. My mother was a single mother. I had

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 1>three younger brothers. I'm the oldest. I didn't want to

0:49:03.080 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 1>put the financial pressure on her. We were in they

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:08.360
<v Speaker 1>called it night shall we called it the projects. So

0:49:08.400 --> 0:49:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the project. So it's like listen, and now

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm in this school that I don't fit in at

0:49:13.440 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like I need to get some money. These

0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:17.839
<v Speaker 1>girls got a m X cards a drive in here.

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I am walking from the Bronx to catch a bus

0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to walk again to New Rochelle to go to this.

0:49:22.280 --> 0:49:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I own a private school. I'm playing myself and I'm

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>broke and I'm hungry, and everybody's looking good but me.

0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to find a way. And of course, when

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you set yourself and the intention, same thing with goals.

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>You set your intentions. And I need to get some money.

0:49:37.160 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I need to get this money. Of course, there's going

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.279
<v Speaker 1>to be some other opportunities that come your way to say, oh,

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>you want to get some money, Let's let's just wave

0:49:44.120 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 1>some carrots in front of her. And I decided to

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>say Plan B instead of Plan A, and Plan B

0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 1>led me traveling, And yes, did I enjoy it. At

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>first it was a need. I was like, I'm going

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:57.000
<v Speaker 1>to travel, Go get the suitcase. Drop the suitcase, so

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll pick up another suitcase. Drop at all. And so

0:49:59.800 --> 0:50:03.280
<v Speaker 1>from me going from Thailand, Africa's in Japan to Singapore,

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:05.759
<v Speaker 1>all these places picking up suitcases and dropping them off.

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:10.080
<v Speaker 1>When they people joke down like oh, secure the bag, workshop, No, Lucy,

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>secure the bag, it was really go get the Samson nights,

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:15.520
<v Speaker 1>put them on the plane and just sit there and

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>act like you're modeling and do what you have to do.

0:50:18.120 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It became now an addiction because the money was coming fast.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>I was traveling at the same time, and yeah, I

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:27.480
<v Speaker 1>thought it was a joke. I'm like, they stopped me

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>numerous times, never caught me. This is this is the life.

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to my head now my hood celebrity.

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>So now I'm not just one of y'all. Now I'm like, oh, yeah,

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.880
<v Speaker 1>she's she's getting us to sneak because she's doing this,

0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 1>She's doing that. You know, she's we getting motorcycles like now,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like hood celebrity, it's a high, and it's it's a

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>naive high. I don't glorify it because it's nothing to glorify.

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But my message, even and sharing this with you all,

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>even for the young girls who are watching or the

0:50:54.920 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 1>women who are watching, that stuff dies down when you're inside.

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:01.279
<v Speaker 1>You're no longer this person with the minks and the

0:51:01.360 --> 0:51:04.000
<v Speaker 1>chains and the cars and supporting the community. None of

0:51:04.000 --> 0:51:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that matters. When you got to put that orange suit on.

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And that was my wake up call after making all

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of this money. So people said, how much money you make?

0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to talk about that. Do you

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:15.080
<v Speaker 1>want to know how many times I almost lost my

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>mind my first encounter inside of UM being in conserrator

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.439
<v Speaker 1>and I was part of the case that I didn't

0:51:21.440 --> 0:51:26.520
<v Speaker 1>even know existed, doing my thing, getting my suitcases, dropping

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the dope, picking it up, dropping the dope, and picking

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>my money in from Chicago, coming back to New York

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>and just having a blast. Not like what you how

0:51:35.239 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 1>they see you on tea like have come on, y'all

0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>cop there? I think crazy. Yeah, it was a big deal.

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.279
<v Speaker 1>You was a part of a case you didn't even

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>know it was a part of. And a lot of

0:51:45.560 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>times we think that it's just us. My name was

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>my whole case, the whole case twenty It started out

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 1>with sixty five co defendants down to all females. None

0:51:55.320 --> 0:51:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of the men got inconcierrated, all females. All was the

0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:02.799
<v Speaker 1>the phone conspiracy. All they heard was my name on

0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:07.480
<v Speaker 1>the telephone line. They never caught me. They've seen me.

0:52:07.520 --> 0:52:10.760
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't catch me. They and not that I was running.

0:52:10.760 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>They tried to get my suitcases and of course I'm eighteen,

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>like what y'are doing, Like, come on, hurry up, ye'll

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>messing up my opinion Colada, like I'm ready to get

0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 1>into Mexico. Very naive and arrogant. They never called me.

0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 1>This was a telephone conspiracy starting all the way from

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Thailand to Lagos, Nigeria, Chicago to New York. I was

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 1>it was two of us from New York. That was

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the only people that was on the case. Two Americans

0:52:35.840 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>and the youngest Americans on the case at the tail end,

0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 1>at the tail end at that. Yeah, I'm sorry, I

0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of just asked one. I just want to

0:52:45.440 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>what state were you in when you serve time? Um,

0:52:48.719 --> 0:52:51.320
<v Speaker 1>so I went from New York. The case was in Chicago,

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and then I served my time in Bryan, Texas using

0:52:55.160 --> 0:52:59.439
<v Speaker 1>the fat fats. Yeah so, and how how much time

0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:02.799
<v Speaker 1>did you serve? Four and a half fear as well,

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy old women. I never heard of old women,

0:53:07.239 --> 0:53:10.359
<v Speaker 1>old women, old women. Because the women on the case,

0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:14.120
<v Speaker 1>what did they do? They protected the men? Wow, they

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.200
<v Speaker 1>protected the MANSO was all twenty eight of us CO

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>defendants on the case and they just took it. But

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>what my point is, what I was saying is even

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>being extradited from New York to Chicago. As big as

0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the case was at that time, my first nine months

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 1>was inside the seg because they were like, we don't

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:36.040
<v Speaker 1>notice there's like twenty there's something co defendants upstairs. She's

0:53:36.080 --> 0:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the only American and the youngest. Do we send her upstairs?

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I had to fight to even get into general population

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>nine months by myself in the South. Why would they

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.399
<v Speaker 1>even do that to a eighteen nineteen year old? Yeah,

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that I tell people. Southtary confinement is is a

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:58.040
<v Speaker 1>mental breakdown. It's it's mental offair. It definitely breaks down

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 1>your minds. If anytime you do over the early days

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 1>in South Tak confinement you have mental health issues and

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you instantly have it. I tell you that I experienced

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 1>seclusion and issues, but like I need to be by myself.

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I can't be around people all the time. I deal

0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:19.720
<v Speaker 1>with that and it comes from just being in the box.

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:23.600
<v Speaker 1>For what I did, like ninety days in the box,

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and after the thirty days it was too much. So

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of my friends who get five

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and six years and ten years, and I watched the

0:54:31.400 --> 0:54:35.359
<v Speaker 1>way that they are unable to even interact in society yeah.

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.399
<v Speaker 1>The only thing I did vice I told you, I said, God,

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:40.920
<v Speaker 1>just keep my mind. There was a ward in her

0:54:40.960 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>name was Ms. Christmas out in the MCC Chicago, and

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 1>she was the only one fighting to make sure that

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:48.799
<v Speaker 1>I got extra rect time. Man. But she didn't know

0:54:48.880 --> 0:54:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the other stuff that was happening from her team that

0:54:52.120 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>they were taking advantage of. That's a whole another, that's

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.719
<v Speaker 1>a whole another show of what happens being a female

0:54:57.880 --> 0:55:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and solitary confinement. Were you taking it manage of where

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the men and there were they were like, listen, the inmate,

0:55:04.840 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the male inmates in there, if it wasn't for some

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of those gang leaders at that time, not glorifying any

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>of that, but sitting there ready to fight, to say, listen,

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>if you don't let her out, we flood in this

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>whole place. We're gonna end up if you don't let

0:55:17.719 --> 0:55:19.919
<v Speaker 1>her out and get a shower. What are you doing

0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>over there? By herself? It was horrible. So I told him,

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it's all fun and games when you're tossing it up

0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Gucci Louis, that's all nice. I ain't have none

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:30.839
<v Speaker 1>of None of that mattered, None of that mattered when

0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to when I'm being taking advantage of Back

0:55:33.600 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>then you had to buy stamps. When you have when

0:55:36.320 --> 0:55:38.400
<v Speaker 1>you got it, they taken advantage of you. So you

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.879
<v Speaker 1>can make a phone call to your mother. They'll get

0:55:40.880 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a stamp to mail a letter. Horrible. Speaking of mental health, listen,

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.720
<v Speaker 1>what would you how do you describe your mental health

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:53.879
<v Speaker 1>state from that all those years ago? How many years

0:55:53.920 --> 0:56:00.359
<v Speaker 1>has it been now? Oh? Man, we oh we all?

0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it one years twenty one years later? Yeah? Because

0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that was two thousand is when it was done. So

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>what would you say your mental health state is today?

0:56:17.680 --> 0:56:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you still have because you're so busy and you're

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:24.160
<v Speaker 1>engaged in so much that is powerful. So I'm imagining

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that part of that is helps you with your mental

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:29.919
<v Speaker 1>health and just in general, because I know I feel

0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 1>the same way. All the stress we go through, all

0:56:32.480 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the things we do, every battle that we get in,

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it helps me to be encouraged that, you know what,

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 1>at least we're still fighting. At least there is a

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>mother that is grateful for our support, and that in

0:56:43.920 --> 0:56:46.719
<v Speaker 1>and of itself is very therapeutic. So I'm sure you

0:56:46.800 --> 0:56:49.560
<v Speaker 1>have that, But are they Because I know I have

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:54.200
<v Speaker 1>watched both Jamilla T. Davis, our good friend and sister,

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and my son and my brother Derek and others. I

0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 1>have watched them and I can see clear signs of

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>former incarceration because of just different behavioral things that they do,

0:57:08.880 --> 0:57:12.040
<v Speaker 1>especially the seclusion stuff with my son. So do you

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like you experience something that you know comes from

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:18.080
<v Speaker 1>that time? That's why I want to ask you. Do

0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>you see that way be? Do you see? No? No,

0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't. I don't travel with you

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and spend as much time got you you as I

0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>do with those folks. You know what I'm saying. So

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>my mother God blessed her soul she before even going in.

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.360
<v Speaker 1>This is the reason why I would say the mindset

0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.200
<v Speaker 1>shift for me and being mentally strong. Besides have a

0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>therapy right um. But she was a double psychology major,

0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>like two masters in psychology. I was helping her write

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:56.160
<v Speaker 1>all her papers. I was her guinea pig for every

0:57:56.240 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>mental project. So I was like her small little mental case.

0:58:00.040 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And so for me, I used all of that, all

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:06.280
<v Speaker 1>of that while I was inside and the whole reading,

0:58:06.760 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 1>putting myself in a position thinking beyond my limits. And

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>so you and and prayer work but it helped me

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>to release it. My whole prayer was, God, just keep

0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:18.800
<v Speaker 1>my mind. This is so horrible. I don't even want

0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to remember what's going on, not to blank it out.

0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'll unpack it later. But with my mother's teaching

0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and reading and her doing certain exercises with me, even

0:58:29.400 --> 0:58:32.920
<v Speaker 1>including we call the creative visualization, but including like these

0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>vision board pieces, that wasn't that was that was key

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to keep in my mind right. And also the meditation

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>is powerful. I went from studying Yo God to um

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:49.480
<v Speaker 1>E five African religion to Muslim. I just dropped myself

0:58:49.480 --> 0:58:52.880
<v Speaker 1>into so many things that I wanted to see. There's

0:58:52.920 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>no way you're gonna take my mind. If I build

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.480
<v Speaker 1>it right, If I build it and I build on

0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it and I create the spiritual thing, I can m this.

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:05.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a muscle and it's and it's it's extremely strong.

0:59:05.760 --> 0:59:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I honestly got weak mentally when I got home, but

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:16.240
<v Speaker 1>inside powerful, powerful, only because of my mother's uh teaching

0:59:16.640 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>before even arriving there, before even knowing, I mean, starting

0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.640
<v Speaker 1>from eight years old, being constantly taught how to think,

0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>how to handle your fears, how to handle your emotions.

0:59:26.480 --> 0:59:29.760
<v Speaker 1>She didn't have when a breakdown. Wait, where's your emotions,

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:32.480
<v Speaker 1>that's energy, emotion, Get yourself together, let's understand where this

0:59:32.560 --> 0:59:35.120
<v Speaker 1>is coming from. Some things you keep, some things you release.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 1>She was very very strict on how we carried ourselves

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and character. Her whole thing was character, not cloud character.

0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Build your character, build your mindset and it will never

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.880
<v Speaker 1>be broken. And she didn't lie. She didn't lie because

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:50.560
<v Speaker 1>she used to watch me when I came up. You're good,

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:53.920
<v Speaker 1>You're okay, you have a nightmares mind, I'm good. You

0:59:54.000 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 1>can make me a sandwich, you know. But it was,

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it was that's the truth. I'm not trying to be

0:59:59.400 --> 1:00:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a superhero role here, but most people don't have that.

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 1>They don't have the You go straight from the streets

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:09.479
<v Speaker 1>to whatever, straight into a conservation and you come back out.

1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Where's the training? Mentally? Prison teaches you to be a survive,

1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:17.000
<v Speaker 1>to survive. My mother taught me how to mentally thrive

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:20.280
<v Speaker 1>before even getting there, without even knowing her daughter, her

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:24.640
<v Speaker 1>only daughter, would be in prison. Well, like I said,

1:00:24.680 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm always inspired by you and just listening to you

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>being and having that same you know, experience, but just

1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.720
<v Speaker 1>not having someone who was adept in the knowledge, like

1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:38.040
<v Speaker 1>your mother was, so you know you you were blessed

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:42.520
<v Speaker 1>with that type of two and someone who can tone

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the energy and direct it and redirect you and give

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you all those things you need to. You're blessing that

1:00:47.600 --> 1:00:49.960
<v Speaker 1>man and you. And that's why you're such a beacon

1:00:50.000 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of light because you were giving that same energy and

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you give that radiate that same energy back. And everybody

1:00:56.320 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 1>in your presence is lucky to have you. You are jewel,

1:01:00.160 --> 1:01:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you are pride. We definitely appreciate you, you you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want you to leave us with something that one

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:10.880
<v Speaker 1>of the most important things that you learned throughout life,

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<v Speaker 1>like a real life lesson that you feel is like

1:01:13.520 --> 1:01:16.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the most important things that if these young

1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:19.600
<v Speaker 1>girls or or anybody is hearing it right now, that

1:01:19.640 --> 1:01:22.720
<v Speaker 1>they can just take with them and along their journey too,

1:01:22.880 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they even if they're not just forming,

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just what you learned about life, right, because I mean,

1:01:28.760 --> 1:01:31.320
<v Speaker 1>some people are inconcerrated and they're free and they've never

1:01:31.360 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 1>touched a prison, right they're just mentally inconcerrating and they

1:01:34.880 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>can't break out of it. And back to that point,

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:40.040
<v Speaker 1>I did deal I still do deal with being an introvert,

1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:42.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm okay with being in my little corner. Too

1:01:42.600 --> 1:01:45.200
<v Speaker 1>much interaction is too much. I want after I get

1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:46.600
<v Speaker 1>off the stage, I want to get in my corner.

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<v Speaker 1>So my thing that I want to leave people with

1:01:49.040 --> 1:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is never let your past define you. I know we've

1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:54.920
<v Speaker 1>we've heard that before, but no matter what pain you

1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:58.400
<v Speaker 1>have gone through, use that, use that pain, use your story,

1:01:58.680 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>use your message, and impact somebody else's life that helps

1:02:02.960 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 1>you to get over what you've gone through. So that's

1:02:05.400 --> 1:02:07.720
<v Speaker 1>what I would leave them is take what you went through,

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:11.280
<v Speaker 1>your pain, and push it out for someone else to

1:02:11.360 --> 1:02:15.640
<v Speaker 1>help them get on purpose. Well, damn it, you're using yours.

1:02:16.040 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 1>You are an international phenomenon. And I know it's not

1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:24.160
<v Speaker 1>easy for you to talk about that story still too,

1:02:24.360 --> 1:02:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I can see and it always is that way. Every

1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:29.959
<v Speaker 1>time you have to speak about what you've been through.

1:02:30.400 --> 1:02:33.880
<v Speaker 1>You can see the discomfort, you know, because it is

1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 1>in your past, but it is such a powerful part

1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 1>of how you're able to touch so many women. Because

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<v Speaker 1>number one, and then we like to we no I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying she's not, but as someone who's never

1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:54.320
<v Speaker 1>been incarcerated, but I have struggles. Right when I look

1:02:54.400 --> 1:02:57.400
<v Speaker 1>at you, I realized it could have been worse. It

1:02:57.440 --> 1:02:59.520
<v Speaker 1>could have been worse, right, it could have been worse,

1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.200
<v Speaker 1>and yet we're still look at you, you're standing. So

1:03:02.280 --> 1:03:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I know I can stand because I haven't even been

1:03:04.680 --> 1:03:06.880
<v Speaker 1>through this one I And it helps me when I'm

1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:10.040
<v Speaker 1>looking at some of these mothers who lost their children

1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to you know, the system, and hey, mine is still here,

1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:21.560
<v Speaker 1>right here, in fact, in this moment, right and and

1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:24.080
<v Speaker 1>and and and and and I know that it could

1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 1>be worse. But it's our responsibility to fight like hell

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<v Speaker 1>to try to prevent more tragedy from occurring in our

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<v Speaker 1>communities and more women from going down a path that

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<v Speaker 1>once you go down that path, the it's not it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't just break you, it breaks our entire community. It

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<v Speaker 1>breaks our entire society because black women are so needed,

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<v Speaker 1>we're so powerful. We actually are the foundation of America one.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know that. And so your strength is my strength.

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<v Speaker 1>My strength belongs to someone else. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that you, you know, just keep pushing forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you will. Nothing will stop you. You. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when we was getting dollars to speak somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>if that and today you can add some zeros um

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<v Speaker 1>you know to our but what we say, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>we'll still take it, don't don't don't call us, because

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<v Speaker 1>we still will take it. But thank God, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>God saw to it that we were, that a seed

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<v Speaker 1>was poured into us for those seeds that we have planted.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, and I'm just I'm just I'm proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. That's all I can say. Same here, same here,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, we all in there. We are all in

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<v Speaker 1>this together. Even as I sit here today, still fighting

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<v Speaker 1>a generational curse in my own personal situation, right and

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<v Speaker 1>so still fighting to make sure my children are not

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<v Speaker 1>mentally inconcerrated or physically inconcerrated. So it's still a challenge, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that goes beyond you know, just even this conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>these households in these communities and what these families really need,

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<v Speaker 1>what they really the struggle continues, Thank you to our

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<v Speaker 1>dear sister. And we gotta I gotta get you sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with the stand up so you can get deep

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<v Speaker 1>into this conversation. So that's the next interview. Count me in,

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<v Speaker 1>count me in, activate your life. If you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>listening across you better go follow her right now. Get

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<v Speaker 1>you better get to know it, right, life changing, a

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<v Speaker 1>life changing sister. And to me, just watching your lives

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<v Speaker 1>and watching everything you do, you become a friend to

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<v Speaker 1>people who never met you. So thanks for joining Street

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<v Speaker 1>Politician says, thank you. My sister, Lucinda cross Man. She's

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<v Speaker 1>she's a began man of life. Just understanding what she's

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<v Speaker 1>been through and just watching her always maling, always educating,

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<v Speaker 1>always you know, enlightening and worried about others understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>what she went through, you know, the impact that it

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<v Speaker 1>had on her, and wanted to make sure that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she can lighten the load of other women who are

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<v Speaker 1>formally incarcerated and re enter in society. So actually she's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when she talks about I know a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the story, and when she talks about the things

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<v Speaker 1>that she went through, you know, she she mentions very

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<v Speaker 1>like gloss over. You know, why why are you as

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<v Speaker 1>an officer standing next to herself? That the male um

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<v Speaker 1>incarcerated individuals saw that and was like, we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>allow you. Whatever you think you're trying to do, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do it in here. That's the type of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that she suffered being in prison four four and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years. I can imagine that transfers and trans

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<v Speaker 1>and she talks about how terrible transporting is from one

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<v Speaker 1>jail to the next. I hated being transported, but I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to go to doctor's visits, you know, two reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>That was two reasons that I didn't go to my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother's funeral. I didn't even want to traveling from upstate

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<v Speaker 1>and all. And what you go through and trans is

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<v Speaker 1>like the words should ever like nobody wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>trans Yeah, she went from New York to Chicago to Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>so and that brings me to my I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>As we talked about incarceration, this is an excellent segue

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<v Speaker 1>I was hearing over the last couple of days. One

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<v Speaker 1>Savage on Clubhouse, which is the place I think is

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<v Speaker 1>the worst place in the world. Like Clubhouse to me

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<v Speaker 1>is a sesspool of individuals who actually have nothing going on.

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<v Speaker 1>But but clubhouse they only for twenty four and forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours. And first of all, I don't understand why

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<v Speaker 1>some wanted successful with twenty one savage who has money,

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<v Speaker 1>who has fame, who has all this ship? It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the peak pen on Clubhouse like and and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>there for you, and I just teach trying to figure out, like, Savage,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you keep being on Clubhouse with these dudes

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<v Speaker 1>that don't got nowhere in there as much to lose

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<v Speaker 1>as you. They're trying to get you out of your character,

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<v Speaker 1>they're talking crazy to you, they're trying to make you

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<v Speaker 1>click bait, they're trying to be get a news cycle

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Why do you constantly entertain it? And once

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<v Speaker 1>again he's entertaining dudes. You know that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>rail him up and talking about violence and this and that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just saying, I don't get why someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has so much to lose and who is who's who's

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<v Speaker 1>overcame so many obstacles. It's constantly on Clubhouse, like, come on, Savage, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of the artists that I actually a young

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<v Speaker 1>dude that I see trying to grow, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. And you let these people pull you, let

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<v Speaker 1>these people you trick you out of your spot, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's gonna happen. And the ship he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>on it, which I'm not even gonna talk about, but

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<v Speaker 1>what he's talking on there is actually allowing people to

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<v Speaker 1>put trick him out of the spot. If you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the fences all over the clubhouse. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that they just sit in clubhouse rooms and they

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<v Speaker 1>just taking notes and they're following you and they're tapping

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<v Speaker 1>your phone. Because these people on clubhouse give you so

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<v Speaker 1>much information about everybody talking about who's snitching, what they

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<v Speaker 1>told how they know because they was there and a

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<v Speaker 1>man's man's was there and they was on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>call and they put the text message on there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It is the rest haveing for the FBI.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I don't get is why somebody like Savage

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<v Speaker 1>is constantly on their and he's not talking about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't understand if you're debating the AM about issues

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<v Speaker 1>about the public or this and that, But they talk

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<v Speaker 1>about streets and who could shoot who and how many

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<v Speaker 1>niggas putt niggas down and hump and it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to me, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want and I want us to do better. Man. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to crown you know, us to understand that

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<v Speaker 1>it's we're not getting nothing by talking about how tough

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<v Speaker 1>we are all we do. All we're doing is creating

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<v Speaker 1>indictment on each other. We if I told we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kill you and my man is doing this, it's a datement.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a dibmentd what you needna happen, And they're just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to tie you into some bullshit. So not just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one Savage, anybody of good more withstanders. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to get off of Clubhouse because to me and told me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't get the funk off a clubhouse nigga,

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<v Speaker 1>you you can't work with me anohing any niggat. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just on clubhouse talking to these nobody niggers. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had to think about that. I was like wow, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was just one of two conversations, but I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm gonna go there. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>marketing and not realize that sh ain't no marketing tool.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a tool for the federalizes. It's nothing but

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<v Speaker 1>low bottom feeders and people with federalities. Man, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>it's nothing there man, So Savage, any other young king,

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<v Speaker 1>please find you something else to do. Please clubhouse, say't it? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>I do not get what you're doing on there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the niggers that's on there. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>they give, they give credence, and they give little bits

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<v Speaker 1>that should never have any level of relevance none at all. Clubhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>If you use any form of social media for progress,

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<v Speaker 1>for change, for information, I'm with it. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>see there are some Clubhouse conversations, Like I see Lee Merritt,

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<v Speaker 1>he pops in every now and then, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>what he's on they're doing. He's on they're educating people

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<v Speaker 1>about cases. Right. I'm not saying that there shouldn't also

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<v Speaker 1>be formed just to have a good time, just to

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and talk stuff. But Clubhouse has become a sesspool

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<v Speaker 1>of ignorance, and it really is a magnifying glass at

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet in general, a bunch of faceless people for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part. And here this young man is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one Savage is somebody who we actually can see that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just Clubhouse though the entire I say this

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<v Speaker 1>probably every show, and I'm in matter of fact, I've

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<v Speaker 1>decided that's what I'm gonna do on every show if

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<v Speaker 1>I have some content, I'm gonna talk about why the

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<v Speaker 1>Internet is so dangerous, because that we we need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of how the internet is actually killing our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>It's killing our people. Askin we are so addicted to

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<v Speaker 1>it that if we gotta run to it with everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it can get us so stirred up that we

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<v Speaker 1>end up talking so much that we talk too much.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is it's the It's the drunkenness of media

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and and and wanting to express your

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<v Speaker 1>opinion and your feelings to people who most of the

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<v Speaker 1>time they don't matter. And even if they do matter,

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<v Speaker 1>if they believe in you, they believe in you. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they don't, they're not going to because you sat

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<v Speaker 1>up and argue with people back and forth all day

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<v Speaker 1>and night. So that's how I feel about social media

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<v Speaker 1>and clubhouse. I went on there a few times. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably will never go back. And I definitely two things

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want. I don't want to work with anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that sit up on clubhouse and argue with people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, because it's too much for my nerves. And

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<v Speaker 1>number two, I definitely definitely, as I am in my

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<v Speaker 1>search of life for where my husband will come from,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't be on clubhouse. So if you're on clubhouse,

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<v Speaker 1>don't reach out, don't come to my d m s

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not interested. Clubhouse is the outhouse. And with

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<v Speaker 1>that said, we've come to the end of another amazing

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