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Speaker 1: I really need, my physical area that needs work at
Speaker 1: this point. You know, of course, the stomach is always
Speaker 1: an issue, especially as you get to be in your forties. Um,
Speaker 1: but I know for women. I'm sure for men as well,
Speaker 1: but the stomach part is always an issue. But I
Speaker 1: I kind of have that under control slightly. Where I
Speaker 1: have issues is that after a while, when you gain weight,
Speaker 1: which I have, it turns into like a cottage cheese,
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Speaker 1: out properly on your you know, lower extremity. So that's
Speaker 1: what I want to work on. And they tell me
Speaker 1: that boxing is gonna help with my heart rate, my arms,
Speaker 1: my strength, and then of course you know, helping me
Speaker 1: with my legs. So that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be uh, trying to do something other
Speaker 1: than relaxing and watching my Netflix chose when I'm on, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know when I'm not working, which is not often,
Speaker 1: but still, you know, I like white people TV. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I have to admit this to myself
Speaker 1: because I was looking at Netflix the other day. Now,
Speaker 1: I was looking at a good looking for a good
Speaker 1: black show, you know, some kind of a show, some suspense,
Speaker 1: And when I started doing my res like you know,
Speaker 1: how you you like, I was choosing different shows. It's
Speaker 1: said on the top in the percentile area, which which
Speaker 1: is pretty much identifying. It's tracking how much TV you
Speaker 1: watching them? Like what are the shows that you're attracted to?
Speaker 1: And and the percentage for all the black shows was
Speaker 1: like thirty percent six was the highest, but the white
Speaker 1: TV was all like nine eight percent ninety nine, because
Speaker 1: I like the suspense of, you know, the way they
Speaker 1: have so much privilege, the way they get in trouble,
Speaker 1: the way that white people do on TV like we
Speaker 1: as black people could never and when we're watching black
Speaker 1: people and we see our friend and mill was talking
Speaker 1: about this the other day too, how when we're watching
Speaker 1: black people on TV and they do something completely outlanged
Speaker 1: to be like, man, ain't watching this show. This is stupid.
Speaker 1: We know this. And that's that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: why sometimes I struggle with all the fifties fifty cents shows,
Speaker 1: right because I'll just be watching it and it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not, but I'd be like, man,
Speaker 1: that you ain't that's not gonna happen in the real world.
Speaker 1: But the stuff that white people be getting away with,
Speaker 1: they do that they literally be doing some of this. Basically,
Speaker 1: you wat shows based on white privilege. I like the
Speaker 1: white privilege shows. I ain't gonna lie, I'm sorry, this
Speaker 1: is the activist, like the white privilege shows Lord and Then.
Speaker 1: But when I watched black TV, I like documentaries. I
Speaker 1: like movies about things that actually happened. But no, but
Speaker 1: the reality is powering on like like that happened. They
Speaker 1: based all real story. Some of that stuff is outlandish,
Speaker 1: you know. Some of the stuff they get away with,
Speaker 1: they don't the way they'll be killing and what they
Speaker 1: got away with. Niggas they got. It's documented that in
Speaker 1: the eighties niggas was killing like that. They had bodies
Speaker 1: like that. It is niggas. You look at their cases.
Speaker 1: They got cases for catching these buddies. This ship ain't
Speaker 1: all the way made up. It's right now because we're
Speaker 1: looking at technology, we're looking at you know, the way
Speaker 1: every state is basically a police state with cameras everywhere.
Speaker 1: But back then when it was outside like that and
Speaker 1: he was catching these buddies, you know, it wasn't. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: The law enforcement wasn't even trying to stop him at
Speaker 1: that point. People in college, you're you're a college student,
Speaker 1: but then you go kill people and the lunch break
Speaker 1: and go back or or dealing. It's heavy for me,
Speaker 1: But I'm not listen. I'm not knocking it because I've
Speaker 1: watched it. Of course I haven't. I'm not really up
Speaker 1: on BMF, but I've watched all the other shows. I
Speaker 1: love it. I've watched Raising Kanan, so I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to say it I don't like it. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that when I'm watching it, I start feeling like this
Speaker 1: right here, it's impossible. When I'm watched the white people
Speaker 1: doing it, I'm like, yeah, that sounds like something you
Speaker 1: could get away with. That You that cops pull you over.
Speaker 1: You got two bodies in the trunk, somebody laying down
Speaker 1: in the back seat, the person in the back seat.
Speaker 1: They say, oh, they're sleeping, and the cops never say, well,
Speaker 1: wake him up. They don't do that for black people,
Speaker 1: but anywhere. That's what I was doing during the holidays,
Speaker 1: was catching up on a bunch of uh TV shows
Speaker 1: and I'm still kind of into it now. I'm watching
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, which is pretty good. Um So, let me
Speaker 1: see what are the news stories we're gonna talk about today.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things happening, you know what I
Speaker 1: tell you one thing that no one else. You may
Speaker 1: not care about this, but I do because I was
Speaker 1: trying to see what was gonna happen with Alec Baldwin,
Speaker 1: right like, he killed a lady on the set and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know for sure, or at least I
Speaker 1: believe strongly that if a black actor was on a
Speaker 1: set and killed a woman or any person with a
Speaker 1: gun that is actually supposed to isn't It wasn't supposed
Speaker 1: to have blanks in it in the first place, Like
Speaker 1: it's not even supposed to have real like things that
Speaker 1: could actually kill you, right. I think I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that I read that a long time ago. It's been
Speaker 1: a while, but I think they would take you out
Speaker 1: of handcuffs and that you would have a charge. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I'm just looking at the workplace.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at do they have intent, do they have
Speaker 1: malicious intent? You know, I'm looking at the totality of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's he's the person that's completely responsible for
Speaker 1: him having the gun. I think the gun was on
Speaker 1: the set to be a part of the set, and
Speaker 1: there was an armorer, which is like the Black Church.
Speaker 1: We call him the armor bear, who was supposed to
Speaker 1: be holding the gun, and then I guess at the
Speaker 1: point that he was, he was using it alec bowing
Speaker 1: instead of it having whatever it is that you can
Speaker 1: shoot it and it won't harm anybody. It actually had
Speaker 1: bullets in it and um, and this woman was killed. Now,
Speaker 1: the reason why I brought it up is because now
Speaker 1: he's been charged with involuntary manslaughter. Him and the armorer
Speaker 1: has been charged. So that tells me somebody knows that
Speaker 1: what they were doing, they wasn't supposed to happen. But
Speaker 1: and I was just wondering, and I'm sure involuntary manslaughter
Speaker 1: there's something where they probably won't get a lot of
Speaker 1: time or anything like that, right, more than likely they won't.
Speaker 1: If it's involuntary means that it wasn't done purposes. It's
Speaker 1: basically just saying that you killed someone by accident. So
Speaker 1: but man slaughters by accident, yeah, man, any anything involuntary
Speaker 1: just means that it wasn't done purpose, and it probably wasn't.
Speaker 1: With that, we gotta I want to look up to
Speaker 1: be specific, but I'm more more, you know, almost sure.
Speaker 1: Involuntary means it was an accident, but someone died. So anyway,
Speaker 1: they did charge him and the armorer with involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 1: So for anybody that's wondering, how did Alec Borwan just
Speaker 1: shoot and kill somebody and didn't get away with it.
Speaker 1: They have been charged. How that's gonna work out in
Speaker 1: terms of jail time? I don't, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think in voluntary right now. Yeah, I don't think they'll
Speaker 1: get any jail time. But I definitely was like what
Speaker 1: when I saw it in the news, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: there's follow up because in my mind, I was like, yep,
Speaker 1: they're just going wipe it under the rug, swipe it
Speaker 1: under what it's a misdemeaning Yep. It's defined as an
Speaker 1: unintentional killing that results either from reckless or reminute negligence
Speaker 1: the permission of a low level criminal act, such as
Speaker 1: a misdemeanor. In violatary manslaughter is distinguished from others of
Speaker 1: homicide because it does not require deliberation or premeditation, or
Speaker 1: even intent, since these mental states are not required in
Speaker 1: violatary manslaw as the lowest category of homicide. Right So,
Speaker 1: so listen, I don't think he meant to shoot the woman.
Speaker 1: Um and you know, you don't seem to think that
Speaker 1: it's a shoot a sure thing that if someone of color,
Speaker 1: I mean Latino, also somebody who was not filthy rich
Speaker 1: like Alec Baldwin shot somebody. I just don't know how
Speaker 1: easy it would be for in the beginning for it
Speaker 1: to just be so quiet. I think it would be
Speaker 1: something that was on the news being dragged out forever
Speaker 1: and ever, and that the individual who committed the crime
Speaker 1: quote in quote would be somebody who or or they
Speaker 1: would have other opportunities that they lose because of it. Now,
Speaker 1: I can't say that that didn't happen to him. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying I feel like it would have been different.
Speaker 1: But we do now know that both people are going
Speaker 1: to be charged at least. So that's a little update
Speaker 1: on something probably nobody else kids about with me, but something.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've told you I'll be tracking white
Speaker 1: people's stuff and now in other white people news. Um,
Speaker 1: and this is something that you know, it's really really serious. Actually,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why this is serious. Right First,
Speaker 1: Governor the Sansis, which is the governor in Florida. He
Speaker 1: is definitely definitely unless there's something in his background, some
Speaker 1: black face or you know, and even that even that,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it has to be something in his
Speaker 1: background that if he didn't kill nobody, now, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some of other things that he that could be
Speaker 1: in his background that would invigorate he could. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but well, you're right, because if he raped the woman,
Speaker 1: a becoming president is a little different. But then Donald
Speaker 1: Trump said grabbing by the pussy, So I mean, Joe Bide,
Speaker 1: it's a lot. Listen, these guys got a lot of things.
Speaker 1: They got a lot of things. So it's possible that
Speaker 1: no matter what he has in his background, nothing will
Speaker 1: stop him from at least running for president. And he
Speaker 1: has a very good chance of being the Republican pick, right,
Speaker 1: which means that the Republicans will be putting all their
Speaker 1: support behind him. Florida is a hardass state already, Like
Speaker 1: it is very difficult to beat conservatives in Florida because
Speaker 1: we know what the state represents, we understand the makeup,
Speaker 1: you know, you know it's it's it's tough there. So
Speaker 1: the Santists he is more than likely going to run,
Speaker 1: and he could very well be the Republican nominee who
Speaker 1: was something. And then at this at that point, because
Speaker 1: I don't think Trump. I think Trump's time, He's in
Speaker 1: his swan song, He's it's almost over um and then
Speaker 1: he could win, right, the Scantists could win if we're
Speaker 1: not on top of him. Now he has banned African
Speaker 1: American AP studies from the high schools. Now this is important,
Speaker 1: right because he has also he's the one who started
Speaker 1: the whole critical race theory banning it from schools. He
Speaker 1: has been working really hard to do something that is
Speaker 1: critically important and that is undermining education about history as
Speaker 1: it relates to African Americans or Africans in America. He
Speaker 1: has been on to undermine it and really try to
Speaker 1: reverse everything that people fought to get in the curriculum
Speaker 1: so that not just black folks can learn this stuff,
Speaker 1: but so white students would also be educated. The problem
Speaker 1: that they had those white folks who are many of
Speaker 1: them are in many of them or the leaders of this.
Speaker 1: They're in what is considered to be the top one
Speaker 1: percent two percent, right, they are their issue. Their problem
Speaker 1: is that more white people, and especially younger white people,
Speaker 1: are becoming more and more aware every single day of
Speaker 1: the oppression and the racism and the suffering of African
Speaker 1: Americans and other people of color. They are becoming more aware.
Speaker 1: So when you have a situation like Kelly and Conway
Speaker 1: during the time, why Donald Trump was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was running for president again
Speaker 1: or yeah, probably was. During the presidential election, she was
Speaker 1: her daughter, Kelly and Conway's daughter at Kelly and Conway
Speaker 1: for anybody that doesn't know, at one point she was
Speaker 1: the White House spokesperson or you know, she was at
Speaker 1: the at the podium. I guess she was. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she was over um uh public relations, but
Speaker 1: I know she was a spokesperson, so she was at
Speaker 1: the podium. I figured she might have been the press secretary.
Speaker 1: She might have been. So anyway, when Kelly and comment, um,
Speaker 1: you know, she was obviously supporting him in his re
Speaker 1: election bid and his and her daughter was on Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: TikTok and everywhere else telling all the business talking about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, saying her mother was a hypocrite, saying that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was dangerous. She she was really taking to
Speaker 1: social media to stop her mother, or at least to
Speaker 1: expose her mother's support for a bigot and a racist. Right.
Speaker 1: So this went on with a number of the young people,
Speaker 1: the kids and the families of a bunch of folks.
Speaker 1: For instance, give you another egg example Julius Jones, Right,
Speaker 1: Julius Jones. We fought like hell, along with so many
Speaker 1: leaders people who were out there every day fighting to
Speaker 1: get Julius Jones off death row right before, like seconds minutes,
Speaker 1: right before he was scheduled to actually go be executed
Speaker 1: for a crime we know he did not commit. The
Speaker 1: governor was receiving calls and pushed back from everybody. Anybody
Speaker 1: you could think of, was calling the governor from white folks,
Speaker 1: black folks, round folks, any and everybody. People with power,
Speaker 1: people with position, people with money. Everything. So after a
Speaker 1: while people started tweeting at writing and calling good excuse me,
Speaker 1: the governor's daughter telling her, hey, you know, stop your father,
Speaker 1: Make your father sign what he needs to sign to
Speaker 1: stop the execution. The daughter was responsive and said, I've
Speaker 1: already expressed I'm used that Julius Jones should live right now.
Speaker 1: She wasn't derogatory. Kelly and Conway's daughter was off the chain.
Speaker 1: She was going live in the house with her mother,
Speaker 1: like showing her mother and being like, you're did her exactly.
Speaker 1: But you know, the governor's daughter for for Julius Jones,
Speaker 1: his position, you know, his daughter's position wasn't that it
Speaker 1: was um uh disrespectful to him. In any way. But
Speaker 1: she basically let it be known that she sides with
Speaker 1: the people. She supports our perspective in terms of stopping
Speaker 1: the execution against this man. This is important for what
Speaker 1: is happening with the Santis, because what's happening with them
Speaker 1: is saif as they sit down the one percent as
Speaker 1: the two percenters and they have conversations about their homes
Speaker 1: whereas they grew up in environments where the granddaddy was
Speaker 1: a racist, the daddy was a racist, and they have
Speaker 1: learned all about racism and are upholding it themselves, and
Speaker 1: damn it, they are racist. To what is happening now
Speaker 1: is as we integrate into society, because we know that
Speaker 1: one of the major problems that these one percenters and
Speaker 1: otherwise of white folks have is how they are becoming
Speaker 1: a minority in our society because there are more browning.
Speaker 1: The country is browning, if you will. The country is
Speaker 1: continuing the brown especially the Latino population is growing um exponentially, right,
Speaker 1: and so that that is one of the big pushbacks
Speaker 1: that we have is trying to figure out how would
Speaker 1: all this integration, people living together, people moving together, how
Speaker 1: do they stop their own from becoming sensitive to the
Speaker 1: issues and that we're concerned about, and how do they
Speaker 1: stop them from actually joining us and our movements the
Speaker 1: way we have seen white folks being all up in
Speaker 1: the marches and the protests and giving money. The best
Speaker 1: thing that you can do to make up people ignorant
Speaker 1: is to stop edge icating them on history and then
Speaker 1: allowing them to be exposed to current what is happening
Speaker 1: in the in the current state. And so he he's
Speaker 1: not just doing this because he woke up one day
Speaker 1: and was like, I just want to be mean. No,
Speaker 1: it's a part of a plan to dismantle what we
Speaker 1: have worked hard to build and to ensure that that
Speaker 1: our education and the education about our stories and the
Speaker 1: truth about black people and what and and main and
Speaker 1: more importantly, the truth about what America has done and
Speaker 1: continues to do to us that they unraveled at every
Speaker 1: single angle, and education is a really important place to
Speaker 1: start it. So that's what they're doing, Um, And that's dangerous, isn't,
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's intentional and it's and it's because
Speaker 1: what you see with these children, right, what you see
Speaker 1: with your our children, and and they're coming they're speaking
Speaker 1: out against injustice because they're learning, they're doing the actually
Speaker 1: doing history is in the books. They're they're surrounded like
Speaker 1: it's a Milton Pot's black people, the brown people in school.
Speaker 1: They giving their history and they're learning in their school.
Speaker 1: So when when their children are coming home and saying
Speaker 1: mom and dad, did you know this happened? And why
Speaker 1: why haven't we done more? And what have you done?
Speaker 1: And when when all this is happening, what were you doing? Right?
Speaker 1: They don't want to deal with that, the white guilt, right,
Speaker 1: So they want to eliminate white guilt. They want to
Speaker 1: eliminate education and actual you know, comaraderie with having us
Speaker 1: having white allies, their children turning into white alies, their
Speaker 1: children looking too over overturn and overrun white supremacy, and
Speaker 1: and and and shut down the systems of white supremacy.
Speaker 1: When you look into these streets, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: these young white kids out there advocating for civil rights.
Speaker 1: So they don't want that. They're trying to study, like now,
Speaker 1: we we can't we can't keep having our kids, you know,
Speaker 1: understanding how racist America was and what they've done through
Speaker 1: our years to black and brown people. So we want
Speaker 1: to we want to stop this education. So the Santists
Speaker 1: and everybody along that mind state is very very strategic,
Speaker 1: Like they havn't they have think tank that explaining to
Speaker 1: them that in the next ten to twenty years with
Speaker 1: this world will look like and how the education system
Speaker 1: is going to impact on what white people are doing,
Speaker 1: and how you know, they're taking away from the white
Speaker 1: supremacist soldiers, so to say, because they can't keep feeding
Speaker 1: them the tea and keep giving them the koola They're
Speaker 1: not sipping the kool aid no more because they'd be educated.
Speaker 1: So the best way to do it is to take
Speaker 1: it out the education system and make them have to
Speaker 1: get it so well. Is the same way they did
Speaker 1: with slaves for years. They didn't want to educate slaves
Speaker 1: at all because they know to educate them is to
Speaker 1: empower them. Well, they tell us that we need to
Speaker 1: say enslaved people, enslaved pave um. But you know you're right.
Speaker 1: That's the all I can say is we know, we
Speaker 1: know what, we just need to make sure eybody else knows.
Speaker 1: And I think the only other point is this is
Speaker 1: why elections matter and why we have to be paying
Speaker 1: attention from local to federal every single election super local.
Speaker 1: It's important I understand that there is a desire to say,
Speaker 1: that's why we need to build our own institutions so
Speaker 1: we can educate our own people. But again, it's not
Speaker 1: just about educating our own. If we're gonna live in
Speaker 1: a society with others, we want them to be educated
Speaker 1: as well. If you have a system where yes, all
Speaker 1: these governors, all of these people, we don't think not
Speaker 1: one of them is radical enough and that they have
Speaker 1: a strong enough conviction for um, for for justice. Right,
Speaker 1: we don't see that right. We know that it's not there,
Speaker 1: but we do know that there are degrees to which
Speaker 1: things can get much worse, and de scientists is a
Speaker 1: very dangerous individual. So when we're sitting around talking about
Speaker 1: what we need to make money so we can build
Speaker 1: our institutions, that's fine, but we also as leaders have
Speaker 1: to know that the masses of our people are not
Speaker 1: where you are. You're building something, but you're not even
Speaker 1: there yet, because it's nothing that you have at this
Speaker 1: point that is creating or that is that is educating
Speaker 1: a man, the real structure of the system people that
Speaker 1: created finances or just educating your finances. So the reality
Speaker 1: of situation is you're not creating ship to build more money,
Speaker 1: and that ship is cool, but you haven't been Nobody
Speaker 1: has been successful or even intentional about building a system
Speaker 1: that combats this system. Right, So that's something until we
Speaker 1: are and I'm not saying that it's not stages, but
Speaker 1: while you're working on stages, you have to realize that
Speaker 1: another part of the stages is trying is hard reduction.
Speaker 1: We need harm reduction, and not voting in these elections
Speaker 1: is really really dangerous because actually introducing home very much. So.
Speaker 1: So here's a little bit of health information, especially for
Speaker 1: women who are out there that her yesterday, I watched
Speaker 1: it on the news. Actually, I was sitting in the
Speaker 1: doctor's office waiting for my um ultrasound and mammogram appointment
Speaker 1: in which it has received my report and they did
Speaker 1: not find any breast cancer anywhere from under my arm,
Speaker 1: which is the nymph, the men lint whatever, thank you
Speaker 1: lymph nodes things, um, you know, to my breast. And
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, ladies, I was gonna talk
Speaker 1: about something else, but this is important when you are
Speaker 1: having issues, if you feel a bump of pain or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I know insurances some cover different things me personally,
Speaker 1: I have to pay out of pocket for the ultrasound
Speaker 1: portion of my mammogram because my insurance covers mammogram, but
Speaker 1: it does not cover me getting an ultrasound unless there
Speaker 1: is something seriously wrong. However, the ultrasound is important because
Speaker 1: the mammograms at times it can different things can be hidden,
Speaker 1: cancer can hide in different spaces. Is so the ultra
Speaker 1: sound is an extra reassurance of what the mammogram has
Speaker 1: already said. So my first mammogram report said that it
Speaker 1: did not detect cancer. It was negative UM. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit assist here and there, but that's something that
Speaker 1: we as UM women and especially black women, that we
Speaker 1: had and we do have to monitor and manage UM.
Speaker 1: But then the ultrasound confirmed it by going back over
Speaker 1: all the areas. And so you're listening. Even if you're
Speaker 1: a man and you got a woman at home and
Speaker 1: you don't know, Aska, when's the last time you had
Speaker 1: a mammogram, and do you think about, you know, getting
Speaker 1: ultra sounds as well. It's important that we check our
Speaker 1: breast because early detection is the best detection and it
Speaker 1: is the best solution for care. And how if you
Speaker 1: do catch something your life can be longer based upon
Speaker 1: getting the treatment that you need. So I have a
Speaker 1: clean bill of health with that area, and every month
Speaker 1: I'm doing something for the next few months just to
Speaker 1: make sure all the different things on my body that's together. Anyway, UM,
Speaker 1: I saw that New York is going to be a
Speaker 1: state that gives out abortion pills. Um. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: we believe in the right to choose. Everybody doesn't need kids,
Speaker 1: some people have mistakes, issues, all kinds of things, rapes,
Speaker 1: lots of things happen, and we are not here to
Speaker 1: judge anybody for the decisions that they make. There's two
Speaker 1: different types of abortion pills. So actually I was in
Speaker 1: the doctor's office watching in the news and it was
Speaker 1: a nurse there, the head nurse of one of the
Speaker 1: departments actually was just sitting talking with me, UM, and
Speaker 1: she began to explain these two different in this, by
Speaker 1: the way, is my UM thought of the day. The
Speaker 1: thought of the day today is about being super educated,
Speaker 1: just like I just told you all about the mammogram
Speaker 1: and then an ultrasound being the follow up. And by
Speaker 1: the way, your doctor, if your doctor feels like you
Speaker 1: need it, they can put an order in where it
Speaker 1: will be covered under your insurance if they really feel
Speaker 1: like you needed, especially for people who have had any
Speaker 1: type of augmentation, breast augmentation, you need to make sure
Speaker 1: that it's that you're going the extra mile. So this
Speaker 1: is about education, super important. So when the news showed
Speaker 1: that the that they're giving that they're giving out abortion
Speaker 1: pills in New York for free, you can go pick
Speaker 1: them up. She said to me, I said wow, And so, oh,
Speaker 1: is this hospital also going to be a part of
Speaker 1: that program? She said, of course, right, it was. It's
Speaker 1: a city hospital actually, And so she begin to explain
Speaker 1: that there's a difference education. There is a Plan B pill,
Speaker 1: which is for oops, you know, hey, I don't know
Speaker 1: last night things it was to pull out. Wasn't that good?
Speaker 1: The condom got stuck. I'm just not sure. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get this pill within a certain amount of hours.
Speaker 1: And the purpose of that pill is to put a
Speaker 1: coating around the the the cervix and the uterous area
Speaker 1: where the it won't stick with the egg, right, so
Speaker 1: it blocks it so that the egg won't be penetrated
Speaker 1: and you can't get pregnant. And that's the early prevention thing.
Speaker 1: That has to happen within whatever the time is. They
Speaker 1: tell you on the plan B pill the abortion. There's
Speaker 1: another pill. This is a pill that when you take
Speaker 1: it it actually for some time. It could be up
Speaker 1: to again. You gotta read read, read the information on
Speaker 1: the package because it can help you basically have an
Speaker 1: abortion later on. It's not the early part that stops
Speaker 1: you from getting pregnant at all. This is one that
Speaker 1: once you are pregnant, it can help to expire the
Speaker 1: pregnancy or it will expire the pregnance se and most
Speaker 1: times the plan is that you take it and then
Speaker 1: you have contractions you know of, you feel it, and
Speaker 1: eventually the fetus comes out, right, it will, it will
Speaker 1: come out. The problem with that is that some people
Speaker 1: need to have themselves checked so that they in case
Speaker 1: they need something called a d n C. A d
Speaker 1: n C is where they go inside and they scrape
Speaker 1: out anything that may be left so that you don't
Speaker 1: have infections and things developing in your body from a
Speaker 1: foreign object or a foreign thing being there, foreign cell
Speaker 1: being in your system. So the problem the reason why
Speaker 1: education is so important, because we could sit here and
Speaker 1: act like, oh, it's just the women that don't take
Speaker 1: care of themselves, drug addicts and streak people, and you
Speaker 1: know that the class of people that we like to
Speaker 1: look at a certain type of way. But the truth
Speaker 1: is that business women get busy, they don't want to
Speaker 1: go back to the doctor, they don't take care of
Speaker 1: themselves properly, mothers with two kids, people who are struggling,
Speaker 1: stress and traveling, all kinds of people. There is no
Speaker 1: specific type for people who do not take care of
Speaker 1: themselves properly and do follow up. So if you take
Speaker 1: that abortion pill and just go about your business and
Speaker 1: don't take care of your body, it can actually be
Speaker 1: very harmful. It is not to say don't use it,
Speaker 1: don't get it. I support anybody needs it. I'm saying
Speaker 1: make sure that you're educated on the full process so
Speaker 1: you can take care of yourself and know that you're
Speaker 1: not creating even more problems than the original one, which
Speaker 1: was being pregnant and having an unwanted pregnancy. So please
Speaker 1: get educated people, or that the day today is that
Speaker 1: we can't just be doing stuff to do it, We've
Speaker 1: got to be smart about it. And it's just time,
Speaker 1: Like we know, it's enough information out there. The mere
Speaker 1: fact that she told me this information, and they didn't
Speaker 1: say it on the news, by the way they hate
Speaker 1: on the news. I'm sure they assumed that when you
Speaker 1: get it wherever you pick it up from, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's a pamphlet and sake and but sometimes here is
Speaker 1: six times from different places. So when she said it
Speaker 1: to me, I felt like it was important for me
Speaker 1: to say it to others. Good job, Good job to me.
Speaker 1: Can educate the people, educate people on what you're wearing today,
Speaker 1: so we can get our guest on. Oh well, so listen, man,
Speaker 1: my guy Ray rough Riders, he's always supported me, man
Speaker 1: chasing Chicken and he got Jada Kiss. They've been doing
Speaker 1: anything for years, man, So shout out to them. And
Speaker 1: you see my hat funk. Respectfully, I brought this from
Speaker 1: a black owned sneakers store in Brooklyn, so you know
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm still doing my part, pushing you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, I'm wrong with that. I suppose let's
Speaker 1: bring our guests on. Let's go. That's so today we
Speaker 1: got we have a friend back. The last few guests
Speaker 1: we've had, they became guests, I mean friends after the
Speaker 1: show because we didn't really know them. Beforehand. But this
Speaker 1: one is our actual friend and dear sister. You know,
Speaker 1: she's my my buddy, my cut buddy. You shouldn't don't
Speaker 1: leave us anywhere together because we we cuts up real
Speaker 1: bad everywhere we go. And that's because you know we
Speaker 1: we appreciate sisterhood. We appreciate getting to enjoy one another
Speaker 1: and um and and learning together. You know, we we
Speaker 1: educate one another, We pray for one another. We we
Speaker 1: just we we we we talked about our children. We
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time trying to break away from
Speaker 1: the norms of what like the society is constantly pulling
Speaker 1: and pulling and pulling. And we're both givers, um, so
Speaker 1: we find in a lot of ways to invest in
Speaker 1: one another. And I'm really really proud of watching will
Speaker 1: send his growth. I remember the other day I heard
Speaker 1: you talking um to somebody saying you're working on your
Speaker 1: vision board. And I think about this young lady who
Speaker 1: send across and where she started with people doing vision
Speaker 1: boards to having an organization that is doing serious like
Speaker 1: critical re entry work, working with women and others, not
Speaker 1: just in America but around the world. I have seen her.
Speaker 1: I'll be looking on social media I'm like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: a check. You got booked all the way and God
Speaker 1: knows where um. And So I want to introduce lou
Speaker 1: send Across, which most of y'all you don't know Lucinda,
Speaker 1: you should know her. She's the founder of Activate Your Life,
Speaker 1: an organization dedicated to supporting women's re entry and reducing
Speaker 1: recidivism and recidivism. In this conversation is super important. You'll
Speaker 1: hear more about Lucenter's um story and why she's not
Speaker 1: just a perfect guest for the show today, but why
Speaker 1: she has is dedicated and committed to the work that
Speaker 1: she's doing. So welcome, will Send across. My sister, Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I'm excited. What's going on
Speaker 1: with you? Man, I'm good. I'm good. Brother Mice, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. The general looking good. You always inspiring, you know,
Speaker 1: I go to get motivation. Like she said, I was
Speaker 1: talking about my vision board, and the first time I
Speaker 1: ever heard about the vision board was at the event
Speaker 1: that she was doing vision and I was like okay,
Speaker 1: and then it's something that stuck with me and it's
Speaker 1: been very well, like like I'm one of those people
Speaker 1: that gotta see things but I'm also one of those
Speaker 1: people that don't like to plan. So I'm like in between,
Speaker 1: like I'm very creative. I like to just get to things,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to plan. So that's one of
Speaker 1: my things. Pet peevele minds that I three that I said,
Speaker 1: I really want to get over. I wanted to start
Speaker 1: planning things out. I want to start writing things down.
Speaker 1: I want to start visually seeing and putting things in order.
Speaker 1: So that's that was one of the things I did,
Speaker 1: and you was a big inspiration for that. So I
Speaker 1: want to say thank you. I pad myself going back
Speaker 1: to get a man involved. That's huge. Yeah, it's you,
Speaker 1: you know. So so tell us about um, tell us
Speaker 1: about activate your life, you know, because we I want
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into you. But I want to hear
Speaker 1: about act because it's so deep. You got so many
Speaker 1: layers of dopeness, you know. So we're gonna, well, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take all the flowers right now.
Speaker 1: Hold on, Yeah, hear my speaking. But um, what I
Speaker 1: will say because it's to me, this is important, right,
Speaker 1: this is part of reducing recipivism. And so for me
Speaker 1: with the organization, activate your life. It started from my
Speaker 1: own personal journey of being in concerrated at risk. You
Speaker 1: just out there and trying to find a quick hustle.
Speaker 1: No one told me how to plan, No one told
Speaker 1: me how to set goals. Where I came from, in
Speaker 1: the BRONX b X, in the building where I came from,
Speaker 1: there was there was no one coming to the community
Speaker 1: to save you or to say hey, I've made it
Speaker 1: and this is what you could possibly become. So either
Speaker 1: you idolize those who were on the street or you
Speaker 1: became a part of the street for me in my experience,
Speaker 1: and so we activate your life. What happens after you've
Speaker 1: gone through a traumatic situation, What happens after you've been
Speaker 1: in concentrated or had some type of criminal encounter. What
Speaker 1: happens who where's the plan? Where's the process? Because you
Speaker 1: end up going back to sometimes the same communities, to
Speaker 1: the same people who's doing a lot of the same things,
Speaker 1: and no one, there's no growth, And so we activate
Speaker 1: your life. Our goals is we're on the four pillars education, empowerment, entrepreneurship,
Speaker 1: and economics, and so we focus on those four pillars
Speaker 1: to say, listen, we can help you with the plan,
Speaker 1: and that leads back to vision boarding. But we let's help,
Speaker 1: let's create a plan for success. What does this look like?
Speaker 1: What do you use these resources that you run into
Speaker 1: so ensure not only do we bridge the gap between
Speaker 1: partnerships that we create almost every week with other re
Speaker 1: entry organizations and halfway houses, but just really stepping out
Speaker 1: into the community and say, listen, without my lashes and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff, I was here and I was
Speaker 1: able to create a plan and let me show you
Speaker 1: how to do this. And we have mentors and mentees
Speaker 1: that link up to support one another. So I love
Speaker 1: the organization. I love what I do, and it's more
Speaker 1: of the reason why I wake up every day when
Speaker 1: I feel like saying not today, no, go walk into
Speaker 1: that halfway house and let those ladies know they could
Speaker 1: do it. How long have you been in existence? How
Speaker 1: long has activated been in existence? So I've been doing
Speaker 1: the work with this since two thousand and ten officially
Speaker 1: and under the nonprofit because people with my mentors said,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta do something. Let me turn this
Speaker 1: into a professional business, uh, two thousand and fifteen. So
Speaker 1: the main program and is going into working with women
Speaker 1: who are at risk, or you just work with women
Speaker 1: because I see women, which, by the way, what I
Speaker 1: was getting ready to say or what I am gonna
Speaker 1: say to prove, to prove a point about the level
Speaker 1: of ignorance that a lot of people have, is that
Speaker 1: these women that I see, they gotta they look good
Speaker 1: as hell, Okay, that go to your events and they
Speaker 1: spending a little bit of cheese to get in right,
Speaker 1: So it's not like you just doing stuff for free.
Speaker 1: All over you have women who want to pay you,
Speaker 1: because I've seen I've heard them like investing in you
Speaker 1: so that you could come and work with them. And
Speaker 1: the reason why I talk about the ignorance is because
Speaker 1: one would think that that group is a group of
Speaker 1: people who was like busted and broke down, and they
Speaker 1: do not look that way at all. Yeah no, And
Speaker 1: that's that's where that's the for profit side, right, that
Speaker 1: leads to being a mentor for the nonprofit side. But
Speaker 1: those women that show up at these events that we
Speaker 1: call it, we nation those women that show up, we
Speaker 1: we want to combine an executive and a woman who's recently.
Speaker 1: Most of the women we work with are already released,
Speaker 1: right They've been released for several years. Some of them
Speaker 1: are working on their second third masters. Right, it's not
Speaker 1: a game out here. They're highly educated. They are supporting
Speaker 1: their families. But women who have been released on working
Speaker 1: on their second and third masters. Yes, my god. There's
Speaker 1: an organization called College and Community Fellowship and they support
Speaker 1: and push these women into getting their degrees and getting educated.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's phenomenal. But what happens when
Speaker 1: you come out and you don't know where to go?
Speaker 1: Everyone is telling you just get a job. So bridging
Speaker 1: the gap with these resources, let's you know, okay, here
Speaker 1: we can get some money. My goal, My job is
Speaker 1: to sit at the table with Delta Airlines, to sit
Speaker 1: at the table with Capital One. We need funding to
Speaker 1: make sure that these women have what they need to
Speaker 1: succeed and thrive economically. And and are you hiring them?
Speaker 1: You know, are you hiring them not just you know,
Speaker 1: making it a check on the box. So if this
Speaker 1: is what you want to do, are you really doing
Speaker 1: the work? And if so, let's see the numbers. What
Speaker 1: does that look like? When I think about I hear
Speaker 1: that black women are the biggest growing population in prisons
Speaker 1: right now, right, so I want to know, just from
Speaker 1: a standpoint of professionalism, what are the biggest challenges that
Speaker 1: black women are having that that you find that taking
Speaker 1: them to jail, and then what what the challenge that
Speaker 1: you have when they re enter society. AH, lack of
Speaker 1: lack of funding, finance, and lack of support, family support.
Speaker 1: A lot of times these women, A big part of it,
Speaker 1: the a big percentage of it is not just it's
Speaker 1: not having that family support. There is no support system.
Speaker 1: They are the whole support system, either for their their
Speaker 1: families or for their children. And then when they come home,
Speaker 1: they still have to fall back into place and pick
Speaker 1: up those pieces, still trying to put their own life together.
Speaker 1: It's extremely tough. And then not to have the financial resources.
Speaker 1: Not everyone who comes home is running to the social
Speaker 1: service department. They don't want to do that. There's a
Speaker 1: level of of pride as well, and I love that.
Speaker 1: I admire that, But the main thing is just not
Speaker 1: having those resources, and then they end up falling. This
Speaker 1: is why reducing recidivism is important. They end up falling
Speaker 1: in some of those same old patterns. Let me just
Speaker 1: do this to get here, let me just do this
Speaker 1: to to level up and and and get myself on
Speaker 1: to on a playing field. So it's unpacked that. Let's
Speaker 1: unpack that because more specifically, like what is it exactly
Speaker 1: that they're getting charged with that's making them the fastest
Speaker 1: going population? And then what are we doing for our
Speaker 1: men that is slowing down the amount of black men
Speaker 1: going in? So is it that there is programming more
Speaker 1: so targeted towards trying to keep black men out of prison?
Speaker 1: And black women are not included in that just because
Speaker 1: people don't see us as being at risk as much
Speaker 1: like what would you say? The issues are all right,
Speaker 1: let's too and I love this, I love these questions
Speaker 1: who you know, but these women are on these men
Speaker 1: on these cases as well, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: they're taking the charge to less of the time for
Speaker 1: their partner. So listen, I can't take this charge, baby,
Speaker 1: you know, can you? And so a lot of times
Speaker 1: the weight is also put on them a lot of
Speaker 1: times with these cases or they're connected in the case
Speaker 1: because if he's driving in the car, you was driving
Speaker 1: with him in the car. He's got the minx, you
Speaker 1: got the minks, he got the cars, you've got the cars.
Speaker 1: So the charges is a big on drugs. Big on drugs,
Speaker 1: big on the scamming right now, Identity theft huge, right,
Speaker 1: So outside of just drugs, it's the it's the identity
Speaker 1: theft and whether it's trafficking or whether it's possession, that's
Speaker 1: the main you know what I'm seeing now on the statistics.
Speaker 1: The other side of it is these women are taking
Speaker 1: these charges. They have no problem with saying, all right,
Speaker 1: I'll do this one to three so he doesn't get
Speaker 1: this because it's harder. The laws are a lot harder
Speaker 1: on the man. So I'll do this one to three
Speaker 1: for you so you don't have to do this seven attend.
Speaker 1: Somebody has to be home for our child, damn and
Speaker 1: and and most of the times there is no planned
Speaker 1: in place to say, listen, this is what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Even if she wasn't involved. A lot of times the
Speaker 1: women may not have may not be involved, but because
Speaker 1: they're connected, and there goes the conspiracy. It the system
Speaker 1: is tricky. It is they leave no wiggle room, they
Speaker 1: leave no room to to look at the true case
Speaker 1: in the matter. And it's sad, it's it's it's sad,
Speaker 1: but we were pushing forward. We're pushing forward. We have
Speaker 1: to look at these policies. We have to look at
Speaker 1: these laws, We have to look at why are we
Speaker 1: constantly sending these men back once they want. It's like
Speaker 1: once you touch down one time with the criminal justice system,
Speaker 1: there goes to keep your name rotating, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's if you can never get free from that number
Speaker 1: and become the name that you are for both sides,
Speaker 1: men and women. So when I listened to this, right,
Speaker 1: I remember I was talking to Remy, my sister, the rapper,
Speaker 1: the entrepreneur, Remy Ma from the Bronx, and we was
Speaker 1: talking about prison and she was just talking about how
Speaker 1: the visiting floors in the prison is nobody coming to
Speaker 1: visit these women. There's no men when these visiting floors,
Speaker 1: but she used to be down there is probably two
Speaker 1: or three visits. And I'm listening to you, and I
Speaker 1: know also well that a lot of these women are
Speaker 1: taking these charges. A lot of men got three strikes
Speaker 1: and they're like, yo, look you're gonna get four or
Speaker 1: five years. They're gonna get me twenty five or thirty.
Speaker 1: And women are holding their men down. So what happens
Speaker 1: so all these men when they come back in society
Speaker 1: are men taking kid of these women or they do
Speaker 1: you see that happening? Are structures I mean just from
Speaker 1: just not even just from the institutional stuff, just knowing
Speaker 1: you being a woman who is formally incarcerated and having
Speaker 1: friends who have to our men playing their roles. Like
Speaker 1: when women get back society are they holding them down?
Speaker 1: Like are they trying to rebuild them? Because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of women that when men get home, they got
Speaker 1: women that's I got a place for you to live
Speaker 1: this So I don't is that happening because I want,
Speaker 1: I want because I want us to do better as
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Because I'm I'm constant and I'm
Speaker 1: consistent on calling up man because I feel like we've
Speaker 1: we've fallen from a level of just grace, a level
Speaker 1: of strength, like a level of just responsibility. I don't
Speaker 1: see it, and I'm saying us. I don't just say
Speaker 1: me because I'm even myself. I got to call out
Speaker 1: certain ship because society has normalized bullshit for us. So
Speaker 1: I'm asking you so that it ain't just coming from me.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you have to say so
Speaker 1: men can be listening and stopping. Oh y'all just mad
Speaker 1: and wouldn't know. You gotta listen to the reality of
Speaker 1: what's going on when people are dealing with situations. Is
Speaker 1: a woman are telling you, this is ari reality, this
Speaker 1: is what we're dealing with. You're gonna listen to it
Speaker 1: so that you could do better, So not to give
Speaker 1: a BS pass right to what you was just saying
Speaker 1: the mindset, where's the reform? So yes, he may come
Speaker 1: home and she's got the house and she's been holding
Speaker 1: it down, but where's the reform for him mentally? And
Speaker 1: where's the reform for her? Without having the mail at home?
Speaker 1: How can we expect Now, we're two different people. One
Speaker 1: is both are institutionalized. Just because one was in prison
Speaker 1: and one was at home taking care of family or
Speaker 1: taking care of herself. Both are institutionalized. There's no reform,
Speaker 1: there's no support, there's no therapy, there's no conversation on
Speaker 1: the female side or the woman's side. She has expectations,
Speaker 1: most likely won't be mad because he also is trying.
Speaker 1: He has expectations and a vision and it's just like, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get back in the groove. You you, you,
Speaker 1: you two on me? You? What's what's going on and
Speaker 1: I can only speak as a woman's side just here
Speaker 1: and what men are saying. But they're both learning each
Speaker 1: other because you're two different people. Now, what's the home
Speaker 1: is broken? This is my point of view, my experience
Speaker 1: and observation. It's broken. We have to start from ground zero.
Speaker 1: We can't start while I was there for you, holding
Speaker 1: you down for eight years. Okay, but my eight years.
Speaker 1: You know how much stuff and stress and stuff that
Speaker 1: I gotta hide from you. That's that I'm sleeping with
Speaker 1: that night. And then you want me to wake up
Speaker 1: and still be in a great mood and ask you
Speaker 1: how is your day and did you get the kids
Speaker 1: to school? It doesn't work like that, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: She's on the same level. She's like, you think it's
Speaker 1: just about you looking cute and everybody giving you a
Speaker 1: bag to get yourself together. We've been struggling here. You know.
Speaker 1: You know how many times I have to show order
Speaker 1: the show casts. So both are damaged because the home
Speaker 1: has been broken for whatever reason. And there is no
Speaker 1: real hut back together pattern right because mom has been
Speaker 1: for the men's for the women and who is is inside?
Speaker 1: And remy mins correct inside you don't see grandma's bringing
Speaker 1: the babies, right, So but with as grandpa, Okay, grandpa
Speaker 1: is not in the home at all, and then you
Speaker 1: look the generation before that, So it's men missing out
Speaker 1: of the home structure, missing out of the home. There's
Speaker 1: no foundation to start with, right, We just was having fun.
Speaker 1: Then the foundation broke because somebody got inconcierrated, and now
Speaker 1: we're coming back into brokenness at the same time. So
Speaker 1: it's hard to mend that together. Listen, I've been there
Speaker 1: on both sides, doing the visits to I gotta go
Speaker 1: see my boyfriend. So then it was on me, you know,
Speaker 1: shipping out the packages, and then I'm like, hey, nobody's
Speaker 1: sending me packages. Everybody in the hood was enjoying the
Speaker 1: sneakers and everything. Nobody sent me a magazine. So it
Speaker 1: builds a level of bitterness and anger and frustration that
Speaker 1: it's never healed. It's a healing issue. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's something that we can put on men or women.
Speaker 1: There's no healing. There was no healing from the start,
Speaker 1: so we can't expect it to be healing in the
Speaker 1: process of us trying to grow and get back into
Speaker 1: let me be a woman and not my number. Let
Speaker 1: me be a man and not what society is calling
Speaker 1: me is the statistic who's just they're just waiting to
Speaker 1: lock me up again. So you said we were just
Speaker 1: having fun and then it all blew upright, life just changed?
Speaker 1: So talk about that for you, right, and your story
Speaker 1: of how you ended up incarcerated, because when I've heard
Speaker 1: this story before, sounds like it was all just a
Speaker 1: good time and then it just wasn't you know, So
Speaker 1: what's that transition like from it being a good time
Speaker 1: to it being some serious, serious stuff? And what was
Speaker 1: life like being incarcerated at what age were you? Eight? Nineteen?
Speaker 1: The fun? For me, it started out of a need, right,
Speaker 1: And you hear that often. I hear it often in
Speaker 1: the street. Listen, I need to do this. You know
Speaker 1: my mother doesn't happen. So for me, it started as
Speaker 1: a need. My mother was a single mother. I had
Speaker 1: three younger brothers. I'm the oldest. I didn't want to
Speaker 1: put the financial pressure on her. We were in they
Speaker 1: called it night shall we called it the projects. So
Speaker 1: I'm in the project. So it's like listen, and now
Speaker 1: I'm in this school that I don't fit in at
Speaker 1: and I'm like I need to get some money. These
Speaker 1: girls got a m X cards a drive in here.
Speaker 1: I am walking from the Bronx to catch a bus
Speaker 1: to walk again to New Rochelle to go to this.
Speaker 1: I own a private school. I'm playing myself and I'm
Speaker 1: broke and I'm hungry, and everybody's looking good but me.
Speaker 1: I have to find a way. And of course, when
Speaker 1: you set yourself and the intention, same thing with goals.
Speaker 1: You set your intentions. And I need to get some money.
Speaker 1: I need to get this money. Of course, there's going
Speaker 1: to be some other opportunities that come your way to say, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to get some money, Let's let's just wave
Speaker 1: some carrots in front of her. And I decided to
Speaker 1: say Plan B instead of Plan A, and Plan B
Speaker 1: led me traveling, And yes, did I enjoy it. At
Speaker 1: first it was a need. I was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to travel, Go get the suitcase. Drop the suitcase, so
Speaker 1: we'll pick up another suitcase. Drop at all. And so
Speaker 1: from me going from Thailand, Africa's in Japan to Singapore,
Speaker 1: all these places picking up suitcases and dropping them off.
Speaker 1: When they people joke down like oh, secure the bag, workshop, No, Lucy,
Speaker 1: secure the bag, it was really go get the Samson nights,
Speaker 1: put them on the plane and just sit there and
Speaker 1: act like you're modeling and do what you have to do.
Speaker 1: It became now an addiction because the money was coming fast.
Speaker 1: I was traveling at the same time, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought it was a joke. I'm like, they stopped me
Speaker 1: numerous times, never caught me. This is this is the life.
Speaker 1: I'm going back to my head now my hood celebrity.
Speaker 1: So now I'm not just one of y'all. Now I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's getting us to sneak because she's doing this,
Speaker 1: She's doing that. You know, she's we getting motorcycles like now,
Speaker 1: like hood celebrity, it's a high, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: naive high. I don't glorify it because it's nothing to glorify.
Speaker 1: But my message, even and sharing this with you all,
Speaker 1: even for the young girls who are watching or the
Speaker 1: women who are watching, that stuff dies down when you're inside.
Speaker 1: You're no longer this person with the minks and the
Speaker 1: chains and the cars and supporting the community. None of
Speaker 1: that matters. When you got to put that orange suit on.
Speaker 1: And that was my wake up call after making all
Speaker 1: of this money. So people said, how much money you make?
Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about that. Do you
Speaker 1: want to know how many times I almost lost my
Speaker 1: mind my first encounter inside of UM being in conserrator
Speaker 1: and I was part of the case that I didn't
Speaker 1: even know existed, doing my thing, getting my suitcases, dropping
Speaker 1: the dope, picking it up, dropping the dope, and picking
Speaker 1: my money in from Chicago, coming back to New York
Speaker 1: and just having a blast. Not like what you how
Speaker 1: they see you on tea like have come on, y'all
Speaker 1: cop there? I think crazy. Yeah, it was a big deal.
Speaker 1: You was a part of a case you didn't even
Speaker 1: know it was a part of. And a lot of
Speaker 1: times we think that it's just us. My name was
Speaker 1: my whole case, the whole case twenty It started out
Speaker 1: with sixty five co defendants down to all females. None
Speaker 1: of the men got inconcierrated, all females. All was the
Speaker 1: the phone conspiracy. All they heard was my name on
Speaker 1: the telephone line. They never caught me. They've seen me.
Speaker 1: They couldn't catch me. They and not that I was running.
Speaker 1: They tried to get my suitcases and of course I'm eighteen,
Speaker 1: like what y'are doing, Like, come on, hurry up, ye'll
Speaker 1: messing up my opinion Colada, like I'm ready to get
Speaker 1: into Mexico. Very naive and arrogant. They never called me.
Speaker 1: This was a telephone conspiracy starting all the way from
Speaker 1: Thailand to Lagos, Nigeria, Chicago to New York. I was
Speaker 1: it was two of us from New York. That was
Speaker 1: the only people that was on the case. Two Americans
Speaker 1: and the youngest Americans on the case at the tail end,
Speaker 1: at the tail end at that. Yeah, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: just kind of just asked one. I just want to
Speaker 1: what state were you in when you serve time? Um,
Speaker 1: so I went from New York. The case was in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and then I served my time in Bryan, Texas using
Speaker 1: the fat fats. Yeah so, and how how much time
Speaker 1: did you serve? Four and a half fear as well,
Speaker 1: that's crazy old women. I never heard of old women,
Speaker 1: old women, old women. Because the women on the case,
Speaker 1: what did they do? They protected the men? Wow, they
Speaker 1: protected the MANSO was all twenty eight of us CO
Speaker 1: defendants on the case and they just took it. But
Speaker 1: what my point is, what I was saying is even
Speaker 1: being extradited from New York to Chicago. As big as
Speaker 1: the case was at that time, my first nine months
Speaker 1: was inside the seg because they were like, we don't
Speaker 1: notice there's like twenty there's something co defendants upstairs. She's
Speaker 1: the only American and the youngest. Do we send her upstairs?
Speaker 1: I had to fight to even get into general population
Speaker 1: nine months by myself in the South. Why would they
Speaker 1: even do that to a eighteen nineteen year old? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that I tell people. Southtary confinement is is a
Speaker 1: mental breakdown. It's it's mental offair. It definitely breaks down
Speaker 1: your minds. If anytime you do over the early days
Speaker 1: in South Tak confinement you have mental health issues and
Speaker 1: you instantly have it. I tell you that I experienced
Speaker 1: seclusion and issues, but like I need to be by myself.
Speaker 1: I can't be around people all the time. I deal
Speaker 1: with that and it comes from just being in the box.
Speaker 1: For what I did, like ninety days in the box,
Speaker 1: and after the thirty days it was too much. So
Speaker 1: I know a lot of my friends who get five
Speaker 1: and six years and ten years, and I watched the
Speaker 1: way that they are unable to even interact in society yeah.
Speaker 1: The only thing I did vice I told you, I said, God,
Speaker 1: just keep my mind. There was a ward in her
Speaker 1: name was Ms. Christmas out in the MCC Chicago, and
Speaker 1: she was the only one fighting to make sure that
Speaker 1: I got extra rect time. Man. But she didn't know
Speaker 1: the other stuff that was happening from her team that
Speaker 1: they were taking advantage of. That's a whole another, that's
Speaker 1: a whole another show of what happens being a female
Speaker 1: and solitary confinement. Were you taking it manage of where
Speaker 1: the men and there were they were like, listen, the inmate,
Speaker 1: the male inmates in there, if it wasn't for some
Speaker 1: of those gang leaders at that time, not glorifying any
Speaker 1: of that, but sitting there ready to fight, to say, listen,
Speaker 1: if you don't let her out, we flood in this
Speaker 1: whole place. We're gonna end up if you don't let
Speaker 1: her out and get a shower. What are you doing
Speaker 1: over there? By herself? It was horrible. So I told him,
Speaker 1: it's all fun and games when you're tossing it up
Speaker 1: the Gucci Louis, that's all nice. I ain't have none
Speaker 1: of None of that mattered, None of that mattered when
Speaker 1: I'm trying to when I'm being taking advantage of Back
Speaker 1: then you had to buy stamps. When you have when
Speaker 1: you got it, they taken advantage of you. So you
Speaker 1: can make a phone call to your mother. They'll get
Speaker 1: a stamp to mail a letter. Horrible. Speaking of mental health, listen,
Speaker 1: what would you how do you describe your mental health
Speaker 1: state from that all those years ago? How many years
Speaker 1: has it been now? Oh? Man, we oh we all?
Speaker 1: Is it one years twenty one years later? Yeah? Because
Speaker 1: that was two thousand is when it was done. So
Speaker 1: what would you say your mental health state is today?
Speaker 1: Do you still have because you're so busy and you're
Speaker 1: engaged in so much that is powerful. So I'm imagining
Speaker 1: that part of that is helps you with your mental
Speaker 1: health and just in general, because I know I feel
Speaker 1: the same way. All the stress we go through, all
Speaker 1: the things we do, every battle that we get in,
Speaker 1: it helps me to be encouraged that, you know what,
Speaker 1: at least we're still fighting. At least there is a
Speaker 1: mother that is grateful for our support, and that in
Speaker 1: and of itself is very therapeutic. So I'm sure you
Speaker 1: have that, But are they Because I know I have
Speaker 1: watched both Jamilla T. Davis, our good friend and sister,
Speaker 1: and my son and my brother Derek and others. I
Speaker 1: have watched them and I can see clear signs of
Speaker 1: former incarceration because of just different behavioral things that they do,
Speaker 1: especially the seclusion stuff with my son. So do you
Speaker 1: feel like you experience something that you know comes from
Speaker 1: that time? That's why I want to ask you. Do
Speaker 1: you see that way be? Do you see? No? No,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't. I don't travel with you
Speaker 1: and spend as much time got you you as I
Speaker 1: do with those folks. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: my mother God blessed her soul she before even going in.
Speaker 1: This is the reason why I would say the mindset
Speaker 1: shift for me and being mentally strong. Besides have a
Speaker 1: therapy right um. But she was a double psychology major,
Speaker 1: like two masters in psychology. I was helping her write
Speaker 1: all her papers. I was her guinea pig for every
Speaker 1: mental project. So I was like her small little mental case.
Speaker 1: And so for me, I used all of that, all
Speaker 1: of that while I was inside and the whole reading,
Speaker 1: putting myself in a position thinking beyond my limits. And
Speaker 1: so you and and prayer work but it helped me
Speaker 1: to release it. My whole prayer was, God, just keep
Speaker 1: my mind. This is so horrible. I don't even want
Speaker 1: to remember what's going on, not to blank it out.
Speaker 1: But I'll unpack it later. But with my mother's teaching
Speaker 1: and reading and her doing certain exercises with me, even
Speaker 1: including we call the creative visualization, but including like these
Speaker 1: vision board pieces, that wasn't that was that was key
Speaker 1: to keep in my mind right. And also the meditation
Speaker 1: is powerful. I went from studying Yo God to um
Speaker 1: E five African religion to Muslim. I just dropped myself
Speaker 1: into so many things that I wanted to see. There's
Speaker 1: no way you're gonna take my mind. If I build
Speaker 1: it right, If I build it and I build on
Speaker 1: it and I create the spiritual thing, I can m this.
Speaker 1: It's a muscle and it's and it's it's extremely strong.
Speaker 1: I honestly got weak mentally when I got home, but
Speaker 1: inside powerful, powerful, only because of my mother's uh teaching
Speaker 1: before even arriving there, before even knowing, I mean, starting
Speaker 1: from eight years old, being constantly taught how to think,
Speaker 1: how to handle your fears, how to handle your emotions.
Speaker 1: She didn't have when a breakdown. Wait, where's your emotions,
Speaker 1: that's energy, emotion, Get yourself together, let's understand where this
Speaker 1: is coming from. Some things you keep, some things you release.
Speaker 1: She was very very strict on how we carried ourselves
Speaker 1: and character. Her whole thing was character, not cloud character.
Speaker 1: Build your character, build your mindset and it will never
Speaker 1: be broken. And she didn't lie. She didn't lie because
Speaker 1: she used to watch me when I came up. You're good,
Speaker 1: You're okay, you have a nightmares mind, I'm good. You
Speaker 1: can make me a sandwich, you know. But it was,
Speaker 1: it was that's the truth. I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a superhero role here, but most people don't have that.
Speaker 1: They don't have the You go straight from the streets
Speaker 1: to whatever, straight into a conservation and you come back out.
Speaker 1: Where's the training? Mentally? Prison teaches you to be a survive,
Speaker 1: to survive. My mother taught me how to mentally thrive
Speaker 1: before even getting there, without even knowing her daughter, her
Speaker 1: only daughter, would be in prison. Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm always inspired by you and just listening to you
Speaker 1: being and having that same you know, experience, but just
Speaker 1: not having someone who was adept in the knowledge, like
Speaker 1: your mother was, so you know you you were blessed
Speaker 1: with that type of two and someone who can tone
Speaker 1: the energy and direct it and redirect you and give
Speaker 1: you all those things you need to. You're blessing that
Speaker 1: man and you. And that's why you're such a beacon
Speaker 1: of light because you were giving that same energy and
Speaker 1: you give that radiate that same energy back. And everybody
Speaker 1: in your presence is lucky to have you. You are jewel,
Speaker 1: you are pride. We definitely appreciate you, you you know. I
Speaker 1: just want you to leave us with something that one
Speaker 1: of the most important things that you learned throughout life,
Speaker 1: like a real life lesson that you feel is like
Speaker 1: one of the most important things that if these young
Speaker 1: girls or or anybody is hearing it right now, that
Speaker 1: they can just take with them and along their journey too,
Speaker 1: you know, if they even if they're not just forming,
Speaker 1: just what you learned about life, right, because I mean,
Speaker 1: some people are inconcerrated and they're free and they've never
Speaker 1: touched a prison, right they're just mentally inconcerrating and they
Speaker 1: can't break out of it. And back to that point,
Speaker 1: I did deal I still do deal with being an introvert,
Speaker 1: like I'm okay with being in my little corner. Too
Speaker 1: much interaction is too much. I want after I get
Speaker 1: off the stage, I want to get in my corner.
Speaker 1: So my thing that I want to leave people with
Speaker 1: is never let your past define you. I know we've
Speaker 1: we've heard that before, but no matter what pain you
Speaker 1: have gone through, use that, use that pain, use your story,
Speaker 1: use your message, and impact somebody else's life that helps
Speaker 1: you to get over what you've gone through. So that's
Speaker 1: what I would leave them is take what you went through,
Speaker 1: your pain, and push it out for someone else to
Speaker 1: help them get on purpose. Well, damn it, you're using yours.
Speaker 1: You are an international phenomenon. And I know it's not
Speaker 1: easy for you to talk about that story still too,
Speaker 1: I can see and it always is that way. Every
Speaker 1: time you have to speak about what you've been through.
Speaker 1: You can see the discomfort, you know, because it is
Speaker 1: in your past, but it is such a powerful part
Speaker 1: of how you're able to touch so many women. Because
Speaker 1: number one, and then we like to we no I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying she's not, but as someone who's never
Speaker 1: been incarcerated, but I have struggles. Right when I look
Speaker 1: at you, I realized it could have been worse. It
Speaker 1: could have been worse, right, it could have been worse,
Speaker 1: and yet we're still look at you, you're standing. So
Speaker 1: I know I can stand because I haven't even been
Speaker 1: through this one I And it helps me when I'm
Speaker 1: looking at some of these mothers who lost their children
Speaker 1: to you know, the system, and hey, mine is still here,
Speaker 1: right here, in fact, in this moment, right and and
Speaker 1: and and and and and I know that it could
Speaker 1: be worse. But it's our responsibility to fight like hell
Speaker 1: to try to prevent more tragedy from occurring in our
Speaker 1: communities and more women from going down a path that
Speaker 1: once you go down that path, the it's not it
Speaker 1: doesn't just break you, it breaks our entire community. It
Speaker 1: breaks our entire society because black women are so needed,
Speaker 1: we're so powerful. We actually are the foundation of America one.
Speaker 1: And we know that. And so your strength is my strength.
Speaker 1: My strength belongs to someone else. And I just want
Speaker 1: to say that you, you know, just keep pushing forward.
Speaker 1: I know you will. Nothing will stop you. You. You know,
Speaker 1: I remember when we was getting dollars to speak somewhere
Speaker 1: if that and today you can add some zeros um
Speaker 1: you know to our but what we say, if it's
Speaker 1: we'll still take it, don't don't don't call us, because
Speaker 1: we still will take it. But thank God, you know,
Speaker 1: God saw to it that we were, that a seed
Speaker 1: was poured into us for those seeds that we have planted.
Speaker 1: And um, and I'm just I'm just I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's all I can say. Same here, same here,
Speaker 1: and listen, we all in there. We are all in
Speaker 1: this together. Even as I sit here today, still fighting
Speaker 1: a generational curse in my own personal situation, right and
Speaker 1: so still fighting to make sure my children are not
Speaker 1: mentally inconcerrated or physically inconcerrated. So it's still a challenge, um,
Speaker 1: that goes beyond you know, just even this conversation with
Speaker 1: these households in these communities and what these families really need,
Speaker 1: what they really the struggle continues, Thank you to our
Speaker 1: dear sister. And we gotta I gotta get you sit
Speaker 1: down with the stand up so you can get deep
Speaker 1: into this conversation. So that's the next interview. Count me in,
Speaker 1: count me in, activate your life. If you don't know
Speaker 1: listening across you better go follow her right now. Get
Speaker 1: you better get to know it, right, life changing, a
Speaker 1: life changing sister. And to me, just watching your lives
Speaker 1: and watching everything you do, you become a friend to
Speaker 1: people who never met you. So thanks for joining Street
Speaker 1: Politician says, thank you. My sister, Lucinda cross Man. She's
Speaker 1: she's a began man of life. Just understanding what she's
Speaker 1: been through and just watching her always maling, always educating,
Speaker 1: always you know, enlightening and worried about others understanding that
Speaker 1: what she went through, you know, the impact that it
Speaker 1: had on her, and wanted to make sure that, you know,
Speaker 1: she can lighten the load of other women who are
Speaker 1: formally incarcerated and re enter in society. So actually she's amazing.
Speaker 1: You know when she talks about I know a lot
Speaker 1: about the story, and when she talks about the things
Speaker 1: that she went through, you know, she she mentions very
Speaker 1: like gloss over. You know, why why are you as
Speaker 1: an officer standing next to herself? That the male um
Speaker 1: incarcerated individuals saw that and was like, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: allow you. Whatever you think you're trying to do, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do it in here. That's the type of
Speaker 1: stuff that she suffered being in prison four four and
Speaker 1: a half years. I can imagine that transfers and trans
Speaker 1: and she talks about how terrible transporting is from one
Speaker 1: jail to the next. I hated being transported, but I
Speaker 1: didn't want to go to doctor's visits, you know, two reasons.
Speaker 1: That was two reasons that I didn't go to my
Speaker 1: grandmother's funeral. I didn't even want to traveling from upstate
Speaker 1: and all. And what you go through and trans is
Speaker 1: like the words should ever like nobody wants to do
Speaker 1: trans Yeah, she went from New York to Chicago to Texas,
Speaker 1: so and that brings me to my I don't get it.
Speaker 1: As we talked about incarceration, this is an excellent segue
Speaker 1: I was hearing over the last couple of days. One
Speaker 1: Savage on Clubhouse, which is the place I think is
Speaker 1: the worst place in the world. Like Clubhouse to me
Speaker 1: is a sesspool of individuals who actually have nothing going on.
Speaker 1: But but clubhouse they only for twenty four and forty
Speaker 1: eight hours. And first of all, I don't understand why
Speaker 1: some wanted successful with twenty one savage who has money,
Speaker 1: who has fame, who has all this ship? It's in
Speaker 1: the peak pen on Clubhouse like and and he's been
Speaker 1: there for you, and I just teach trying to figure out, like, Savage,
Speaker 1: why do you keep being on Clubhouse with these dudes
Speaker 1: that don't got nowhere in there as much to lose
Speaker 1: as you. They're trying to get you out of your character,
Speaker 1: they're talking crazy to you, they're trying to make you
Speaker 1: click bait, they're trying to be get a news cycle
Speaker 1: with you. Why do you constantly entertain it? And once
Speaker 1: again he's entertaining dudes. You know that I wanted to
Speaker 1: rail him up and talking about violence and this and that,
Speaker 1: and I'm just saying, I don't get why someone who
Speaker 1: has so much to lose and who is who's who's
Speaker 1: overcame so many obstacles. It's constantly on Clubhouse, like, come on, Savage, like,
Speaker 1: you're one of the artists that I actually a young
Speaker 1: dude that I see trying to grow, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you let these people pull you, let
Speaker 1: these people you trick you out of your spot, because
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. And the ship he's talking about
Speaker 1: on it, which I'm not even gonna talk about, but
Speaker 1: what he's talking on there is actually allowing people to
Speaker 1: put trick him out of the spot. If you know,
Speaker 1: I believe that the fences all over the clubhouse. I
Speaker 1: believe that they just sit in clubhouse rooms and they
Speaker 1: just taking notes and they're following you and they're tapping
Speaker 1: your phone. Because these people on clubhouse give you so
Speaker 1: much information about everybody talking about who's snitching, what they
Speaker 1: told how they know because they was there and a
Speaker 1: man's man's was there and they was on the phone
Speaker 1: call and they put the text message on there. It's
Speaker 1: it is. It is the rest haveing for the FBI.
Speaker 1: So what I don't get is why somebody like Savage
Speaker 1: is constantly on their and he's not talking about you know,
Speaker 1: I won't understand if you're debating the AM about issues
Speaker 1: about the public or this and that, But they talk
Speaker 1: about streets and who could shoot who and how many
Speaker 1: niggas putt niggas down and hump and it just doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to me, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: I want and I want us to do better. Man. First,
Speaker 1: I want to crown you know, us to understand that
Speaker 1: it's we're not getting nothing by talking about how tough
Speaker 1: we are all we do. All we're doing is creating
Speaker 1: indictment on each other. We if I told we're gonna
Speaker 1: kill you and my man is doing this, it's a datement.
Speaker 1: It's a dibmentd what you needna happen, And they're just
Speaker 1: waiting to tie you into some bullshit. So not just
Speaker 1: twenty one Savage, anybody of good more withstanders. I had
Speaker 1: to get off of Clubhouse because to me and told me,
Speaker 1: if you don't get the funk off a clubhouse nigga,
Speaker 1: you you can't work with me anohing any niggat. That's
Speaker 1: just on clubhouse talking to these nobody niggers. And I
Speaker 1: had to think about that. I was like wow, and
Speaker 1: it was just one of two conversations, but I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna go there. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: marketing and not realize that sh ain't no marketing tool.
Speaker 1: It is a tool for the federalizes. It's nothing but
Speaker 1: low bottom feeders and people with federalities. Man, I don't
Speaker 1: it's nothing there man, So Savage, any other young king,
Speaker 1: please find you something else to do. Please clubhouse, say't it? Man?
Speaker 1: I do not get what you're doing on there. If
Speaker 1: you look at the niggers that's on there. It's like
Speaker 1: they give, they give credence, and they give little bits
Speaker 1: that should never have any level of relevance none at all. Clubhouse.
Speaker 1: If you use any form of social media for progress,
Speaker 1: for change, for information, I'm with it. You know. I
Speaker 1: see there are some Clubhouse conversations, Like I see Lee Merritt,
Speaker 1: he pops in every now and then, and I know
Speaker 1: what he's on they're doing. He's on they're educating people
Speaker 1: about cases. Right. I'm not saying that there shouldn't also
Speaker 1: be formed just to have a good time, just to
Speaker 1: laugh and talk stuff. But Clubhouse has become a sesspool
Speaker 1: of ignorance, and it really is a magnifying glass at
Speaker 1: the Internet in general, a bunch of faceless people for
Speaker 1: the most part. And here this young man is twenty
Speaker 1: one Savage is somebody who we actually can see that
Speaker 1: it's not just Clubhouse though the entire I say this
Speaker 1: probably every show, and I'm in matter of fact, I've
Speaker 1: decided that's what I'm gonna do on every show if
Speaker 1: I have some content, I'm gonna talk about why the
Speaker 1: Internet is so dangerous, because that we we need to
Speaker 1: be aware of how the internet is actually killing our communities.
Speaker 1: It's killing our people. Askin we are so addicted to
Speaker 1: it that if we gotta run to it with everything,
Speaker 1: and it can get us so stirred up that we
Speaker 1: end up talking so much that we talk too much.
Speaker 1: And that is it's the It's the drunkenness of media
Speaker 1: and and and and and and wanting to express your
Speaker 1: opinion and your feelings to people who most of the
Speaker 1: time they don't matter. And even if they do matter,
Speaker 1: if they believe in you, they believe in you. And
Speaker 1: if they don't, they're not going to because you sat
Speaker 1: up and argue with people back and forth all day
Speaker 1: and night. So that's how I feel about social media
Speaker 1: and clubhouse. I went on there a few times. I
Speaker 1: probably will never go back. And I definitely two things
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't want to work with anybody
Speaker 1: that sit up on clubhouse and argue with people all
Speaker 1: the time, because it's too much for my nerves. And
Speaker 1: number two, I definitely definitely, as I am in my
Speaker 1: search of life for where my husband will come from,
Speaker 1: he can't be on clubhouse. So if you're on clubhouse,
Speaker 1: don't reach out, don't come to my d m s
Speaker 1: because I'm not interested. Clubhouse is the outhouse. And with
Speaker 1: that said, we've come to the end of another amazing
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