WEBVTT - Are You Experienced... With Kidnapping?

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth got totally. You've been waiting in here all day.

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<v Speaker 3>With the lights out. My knees are killing me. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been under that console.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you wearing a tiara?

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? Dude?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it looks good, but why aren't you wearing

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<v Speaker 2>that was a permanent marker?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, do you know what's ridiculous? Besides that?

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<v Speaker 3>I do now there is a listener. He's not ridiculous

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<v Speaker 3>in the slightest stever. Neither Steve Neither on Instagram. This

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<v Speaker 3>man he sent something in that I swear to you,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought was fake. There was just absolutely no way

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<v Speaker 3>in the world this could be real.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you got your team on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the team on it me two dogs, hamster

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<v Speaker 3>and a year old kid that I just found, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>walking to school.

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<v Speaker 2>Train circus monkey and only answers to Pierre.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Pierre, Yeah, okay, cool the crap. My crack

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<v Speaker 3>team and I mm hmm investigated this. It's true. This

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<v Speaker 3>exist is true. This is one hundred percent true.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to take your word for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, okay, So here's here's the thing. When what do

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<v Speaker 3>you think of? When I say Tom Petty, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think of music videos? Yeah, specifically like ones

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<v Speaker 2>like about like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Scenes of l A Don't come around here no more?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but then like the free falling.

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<v Speaker 2>Free following. Yeah, what's the one with the Johnny is

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<v Speaker 2>a Dead woman? Oh yeah, that was later one? Crazy yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>crazy imagery that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Great videos, liked it, great songs, American.

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<v Speaker 2>Great songs, tragic end, Yes, this is it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't too long ago. You know, he was another victim

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<v Speaker 3>of you knowventyl and, which is just the absolute devil.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you think of him, do you think of

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<v Speaker 3>any anything else? Like it's non music or video related.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you think of like Marshmallows?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I know I don't, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Moving on, do you think of a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope? Still no, you should.

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<v Speaker 3>You should think of chocolate?

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<v Speaker 2>Back my tracks up and thank my Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing says chocolate, like Tom Petty, nothing, nothing, Florida. Nothing

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<v Speaker 3>says chocolate. So there's this company Chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure, sure, don't make me say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying it right. Probably Okay, So they have

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<v Speaker 3>this collection of chocolate bars that are the it's a

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<v Speaker 3>mash up, a crossover Tom Petty Voge chocolate, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a limited edition.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the chocolate company that takes certain body parts

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<v Speaker 2>and makes it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, there you know. This collection marries the world of

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<v Speaker 3>music with the art of chocolate making, offering an experience

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<v Speaker 3>that transcends the ordinary. Let me tell you what makes

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<v Speaker 3>this sound so horrible and fake?

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<v Speaker 2>Please do I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Read you about Chukla harmony.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The magic of this chocolate collection lies in its unique

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<v Speaker 3>infusion process. So we're talking about Tom Petty and chocolate

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<v Speaker 3>and there's an infusion process.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm really hoping it's gonna be like some weed

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<v Speaker 2>butter or something.

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<v Speaker 3>As these bars gently make their way through the cooling tunnel,

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<v Speaker 3>they are serenaded with the timeless music of Tom Petty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're infused with the music.

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<v Speaker 3>This innovative technique is inspired by the belief that music

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<v Speaker 3>can influence the crystallization of chocolate, resulting in a product

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<v Speaker 3>that not only tastes extraordinary, but also embodies the spirit

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<v Speaker 3>and essence of Tom Petty's music.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is like the same science of like if

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<v Speaker 2>I whisper mean words to water it'll make ugly crystals

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<v Speaker 2>of ice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of like like the movie like Water for chocolate,

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<v Speaker 3>like Tom Petty that I don't you think there's sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a sorrowful edge to Tom Petty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be some bitter chocolate.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like sad chocolate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's gonna be some sad, bitter Florida chocolate.

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<v Speaker 3>They have three three flavors. Dark chocolate with sea salt

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<v Speaker 3>that reads sad, sad, Deep milk chocolate with marshmallow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll go win some America, but go yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's more American girl. Yeah, and then deep milk

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<v Speaker 3>chocolate with crispy hazelnut.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to make of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean either. But let me tell you something

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<v Speaker 3>Saren Saren Walter by Elizabeth c. D.

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<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous. Oh I'll give you that one there.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Produce Your Day of mark one up for Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>A box set of it is fifty bucks. Otherwise they're

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<v Speaker 3>seven dollars a bar, which.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the CD old CD long boxes.

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<v Speaker 3>Like almost almost. But yeah, and this's got like pretty

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<v Speaker 3>cool art.

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<v Speaker 2>But will kids be selling these at like public transportation

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<v Speaker 2>stations to raise money for the school, and then maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they'll get my seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Bugs in like Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, I'm going to do it. You got a second, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>of course I got some ridiculous for you. Okay. You

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<v Speaker 2>remember when you were young and dumb, you loved a

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<v Speaker 2>particular band. Oh sure, it doesn't matter what band. Picture

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<v Speaker 2>a band you loved, right, and even more specifically, picture

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<v Speaker 2>a single performer that you loved. Right, You're just like

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<v Speaker 2>I just longed and pined for them, right. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>ever have like a musical crush where you felt their

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<v Speaker 2>music so deeply in your bones, just like in every

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<v Speaker 2>fiber of your body that didn't say, a weak moment

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<v Speaker 2>maybe hmm, or maybe an emotional high. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>which way you roll. You would dream a particular dream,

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<v Speaker 2>like what if I could literally kidnap that performer and

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<v Speaker 2>make them saying just for me?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean nothing weird or creepy, you know, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like more like a Genie wish, really positive Disneyfied wish. Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you reading my journals? And you know what I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do to victimone's.

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<v Speaker 2>This is about to be Happy birthday, Elizabeth, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you could have one performer other than the

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<v Speaker 2>fabulous victimone play for you over a long weekend, who

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<v Speaker 2>would it be?

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth Victimone.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. Okay, that's your answer, your final answer. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>today I have a pair of stories for you, not

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<v Speaker 2>about Victim oone, but about people who did exactly that

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<v Speaker 2>to people other than Victim oone. They lived your dark dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you're ready. I'm so ready.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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<v Speaker 2>and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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<v Speaker 2>one ridiculous ridiculous. Hello, I feel like I should start over.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I may have set up to your

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<v Speaker 2>stories to sound kind of weird. We'll super creepy, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but not in the fun flirting way, but like truth

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<v Speaker 2>be told. These stories they're kind of weird, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>not like I want to wear your skin is a suit?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of weird, you know, not that weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Please victim O one, let me wear.

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<v Speaker 2>Or like who did what to who? That kind of weird?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>You love that kind of weird? Okay, so let's dive in.

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<v Speaker 3>I like all kinds of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>You kind of a weird girl, I am, You're a

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<v Speaker 2>maven of weird. Yeah. Well, anyway, what do you know

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<v Speaker 2>about Fats Waller?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, street name Fats Waller, government named Thomas Right Waller.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, nothing in depth?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? He was one of the early jazz legends. Yeah right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>piano of jazz. I know you know this, right, famous

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<v Speaker 2>right took the New Orleans sound that was where jazz

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<v Speaker 2>was getting to start, and he ran it through like

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<v Speaker 2>a Harlem filter and out pop's stride piano, that style

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<v Speaker 2>he basically took like the uh it's like jumping like

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<v Speaker 2>yeah exactly. So you know anyway, born in nineteen oh

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<v Speaker 2>four May twenty first, to be exact, comes into his

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<v Speaker 2>full stride in the nineteen twenties. That was right when

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<v Speaker 2>this is the point when jazz is the hottest thing

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<v Speaker 2>going in the world. Right, And I think you know

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<v Speaker 2>some of his songs. If I ran some titles past,

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<v Speaker 2>you like yet me high suckle rose? Oh yeah, ain't misbehaving? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I figure you do as I told you. Guy musical virtuo,

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<v Speaker 2>So you put him on eighty eight keys and he

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<v Speaker 2>would make that thing sing so pretty and This started

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<v Speaker 2>back when he was six years old. Six six years old, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Father was a preacher. Father wanted his son to use

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<v Speaker 2>his gifts for the law, and he was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do it for the coch So he

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<v Speaker 2>got out there and he started dancing his fingers over

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<v Speaker 2>the keys. All these beautiful ladies and dapper gentlemen. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you know, get down. He loved that lifestyle. This man

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<v Speaker 2>was about about it now. Also, he started so young

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<v Speaker 2>as a performer, right, young Thomas Waller, he does the

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<v Speaker 2>inevitable thing. He drops out of school, he chases the

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<v Speaker 2>music on the night life. His father most displeased, but

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<v Speaker 2>young Thomas Waller he's loving it. Right. Flash forward to

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen twenties, earned the nickname Fats, and now he's

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<v Speaker 2>this up and coming piano player working in Harlem night spots.

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<v Speaker 2>And as I said, dud dude, great personality, brash, funny, garrels,

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of charisma. Just you want to watch him.

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<v Speaker 3>The right guy at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, totally. Now he's a star in the nightclub scene

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<v Speaker 2>in Harlem. Boom kids, like nineteen years old, god years old, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Fats Waller gets the attention of all kinds of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are looking to make money in this new music, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they get him at a studio, he cuts a record

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen twenty four Boom, his first hit song, Squeeze Me

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<v Speaker 2>right Fats Waller. Sound, as I said, stride piano. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you're more of a musician than I am, so maybe, well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>the sound of what stride piano. I had to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of look it up to make sure I got this

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<v Speaker 2>all right. But if you take Scott Joplin's Ragtime, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you made that sound a little more jaunty

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<v Speaker 2>and jazzy, right, and then the piano player's left hand

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<v Speaker 2>is the one that strides. Yeah, okay, so he kind

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<v Speaker 2>of walks around on the keyboard and apparently he holds

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<v Speaker 2>down a four beat rhythm, and then the left hand's

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<v Speaker 2>playing on the ones and threes, and he's playing a

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<v Speaker 2>chord right on the twos and four. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth between a rhythm note on the ones

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<v Speaker 2>and threes and a chord on the twos and four.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of walking around right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, as I said, you have more faculty with music

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<v Speaker 2>than I do, or facility rather, Uh, I can play

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<v Speaker 2>a harmonica. I like a messy instrument with like here

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<v Speaker 2>kind of there, I'm gonna fudge it over here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bend it into this. Right. You played the cello, Yeah, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>I did. So that you have a fingerboard, you're used

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<v Speaker 2>to that placing the emphasis, because when you play an

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<v Speaker 2>instrument with wind, it's very different about putting the emotion

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<v Speaker 2>in it then with the fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well there's no fret on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's no fresh there's a neck and but

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<v Speaker 2>there's still basically a string section where you're running an

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<v Speaker 2>imaginary threat.

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<v Speaker 3>Board in your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where the Yeah, you're imposing it. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you're putting emotion into strings, how did How does that occur?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Is it? Is it the rhythm? Is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's particularly for something like the cello, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, uh, when you're playing with a bow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you know, how the pressure on it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>verbrato with your finger or you can bend notes, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and move it.

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<v Speaker 2>And do like thessando type stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you want to do a sound sneaky,

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<v Speaker 3>then you dozo little cat.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to mymon Fats Waller, as I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>lovable roguish character. He's able to impart emotion into the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of the strings. He's sitting there dancing on his

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<v Speaker 2>piano bench. So imagine him in a suit, just gliding around,

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<v Speaker 2>bouncing his little butt on the on the piano bench, playing,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, stride so ole. Everyone loves him. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he starts recording on RCA Victor. He's got this six

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<v Speaker 2>piece combo Elizabeth Fats Waller and his rhythm right, hottest

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<v Speaker 2>thing going in the mid nineteen twenties. Fans all across

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<v Speaker 2>the country, not just in Harlement, in Chicago and Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>but all across the country. One of his biggest fans,

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<v Speaker 2>you know this man, you know his name, yes, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the friend of the show. Oh, mister Alphonse Capone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the legendary Chicago mob boss, king of a

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<v Speaker 2>gang land right, Capo de tuti Copi. He was also

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<v Speaker 2>a jazz.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, really, I know, he played the banjo exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>He liked the hothouse jazz tunes. He was sitting out

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<v Speaker 2>there like Jango Ryan all right. Anyway, I always kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of imagine him playing like, you know, wagon wheel music

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<v Speaker 3>on a banjo well, I think it's funnier that way.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funnier, Yeah, definitely funnier. But picture his speakeasies right,

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<v Speaker 2>he's hanging out. He loves the hot jazz.

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<v Speaker 3>He kicked off the square dancing craze in fourth grades

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<v Speaker 3>across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna set that aside. The music the people

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<v Speaker 2>listen to while sipping on his bootleg liquor, hot hot jazz. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>square dance music now, also the ladies of the night

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<v Speaker 2>who they beef dancing as folks are gambling in his

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<v Speaker 2>Alicic casinos. What type of music, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>Banjo Scarce.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm pointing out, jazz, hothouse jazz into jazz, totally

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<v Speaker 2>everything sexy, fun elictit. That's what al Capone is all about.

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<v Speaker 3>And jazz is suaggy horns, yeah, exactly, jumping beats, hot Claire,

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<v Speaker 3>and lift your skirt up, drums.

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<v Speaker 2>Lift your skirt up? What kind of instruments you play

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<v Speaker 2>when you're dancing? Oh we're back to dancing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like you hear this music and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just player skirt over your head, dance.

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<v Speaker 3>Stock still in the middle of the dance floor and

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<v Speaker 3>lift your skirt. That's not how you dance at a

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<v Speaker 3>jazz club.

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<v Speaker 2>When I do it, I do more of a frilly skirt,

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<v Speaker 2>like a flamenco dancer. I do the action with my skirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are you talking about here?

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<v Speaker 3>I just let my wool socks sag down from between

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<v Speaker 3>my knees to my ankles, and then I slowly lift

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<v Speaker 3>up my skirt and people turn in host sailor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to the nineteen twenties. Al Capone was born

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<v Speaker 2>in January of eighteen ninety nine in Cicero. Yes, very good,

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<v Speaker 2>January seventeenth, eighteen ninety nine. Thus he was always one

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<v Speaker 2>year older than the date, right, Okay, Yeah, So nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five al Capon's twenty six and eight nineteen twenty six,

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<v Speaker 2>al Capone is.

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<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Very good, So let's focus on that. Keep going on this.

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<v Speaker 2>What about the next?

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<v Speaker 3>How about in nineteen eighty four?

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<v Speaker 2>Trick question nineteen eighty four Elizabeth Gough? How old is he?

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<v Speaker 3>He was nineteen eighty dead?

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<v Speaker 2>He was dead? Nice, totally nailed it. Okay, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>focus on Alcapone's twenty seventh birthday. Okay, he obviously did

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<v Speaker 2>not join the twenty seven club so he made it

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<v Speaker 2>past twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 2>This story comes to us from Maurice Waller, the son

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<v Speaker 2>of Fats Waller. He wrote a book about his dad.

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<v Speaker 2>He shared a family story, right, So here we go

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<v Speaker 2>the kidnapping of Fats Waller by the gangster al Capone.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, kidnapping.

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<v Speaker 2>Fats Waller by the gangster alone.

0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes my brain needs to catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I told you this will be Who did what? Who?

0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Where we are?

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, nineteen twenty six, Fats Waller is twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>years old. Okay, he's been a star in Harlem now

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<v Speaker 2>since he was nineteen. He's young, as I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's used to the night life by now, or

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<v Speaker 2>so he thought. He gets booked on a tour. He's

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<v Speaker 2>playing northern Midwestern cities Cleveland, Detroit, he makes out Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>and he's playing a gig at a place called the

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<v Speaker 2>Sherman Hotel Elizabeth. It's a multi night standing gig. Since

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<v Speaker 2>it's nineteen twenty six, Fats Waller attracts a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago gangsters. They all come out to see them, right.

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<v Speaker 2>They show up their big mohair coats. They got a

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<v Speaker 2>dame on their arm, exactly picture that crowd, but it

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<v Speaker 2>run through your imagination.

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<v Speaker 3>Like an informal personal picture it right, Ca'm good? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So a bunch of dames on their arms who aren't

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<v Speaker 2>their wives, yeah, men who are there basically to provide

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<v Speaker 2>them protection. They got those bulges under their suits, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Fats Waller, he's from New York. He's used to playing

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<v Speaker 2>for gangster's. He's not afraid of this crowd. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna dance in my music on anybody else. So,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, the bulging overcoats and the heaters with

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<v Speaker 2>them don't worry him none. So after he gets done

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<v Speaker 2>playing one night, Fats Waller walks out of Sherman Hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he walk into? Elizabeth? A pair of suspicious

0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.160
<v Speaker 2>faces men walking right up on him. One has his

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<v Speaker 2>gat out for persuasion. They hustle Fats Waller into a

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<v Speaker 2>waiting getaway car, long black limousine. The two got him

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<v Speaker 2>into the limo, right, So Fat wall is in their

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<v Speaker 2>limo with him. One of the hoods gives the driver

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<v Speaker 2>an instruction, He's like, take us back, d Cicero. Fats

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<v Speaker 2>Waller has no business in his sister, right, so he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>who did who did I wrong? Was there was there

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<v Speaker 2>a dancer I've been talking to? I shouldn't have been

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<v Speaker 2>talking to? Why have I done? He cannot figure out

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<v Speaker 2>why he's being taken to Cio right, he's desperately trying

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<v Speaker 2>to think of why he's been grabbed and who would

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<v Speaker 2>want him dead?

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<v Speaker 3>And fast Waller and came out just a little poop.

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<v Speaker 2>So the long black limo arrives at his destination in

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<v Speaker 2>East Cicero. It's a saloon Elizabeth called the Hawthorn in.

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<v Speaker 2>The two hoods pull Fats Waller out of the car,

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<v Speaker 2>take him inside the salon. But really, once he's inside,

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<v Speaker 2>he notices it. Oh, it's more of a nightclub all right,

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<v Speaker 2>for gangsters. It's just packed with monsters. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hawthorn is is owned by a gangster, one Alphonse Capone

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<v Speaker 2>business capone spot outside of town. So Fats Waller walks in,

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<v Speaker 2>sees the joint is a jumpin folks, dancing, drink and

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<v Speaker 2>carrying on the whole carousing bit hoods. With the one

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<v Speaker 2>hood with the gun in his back, he guides Fat

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<v Speaker 2>Swaller over to the piano. He tells him, you play now,

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<v Speaker 2>Fats Waller All twenty one years of him and hoping

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<v Speaker 2>to make twenty two. Yeah, he does, has instructed. He

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<v Speaker 2>starts playing. He gets that piano up, bouncing those keys,

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<v Speaker 2>start a singing, eating up and Fats Waller he gets

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<v Speaker 2>done with his first song. Crowd applause. They go nuts,

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<v Speaker 2>right everyone, because remember I said jazz is the hottest

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<v Speaker 2>music going. And they got the man playing Fat Swaller

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<v Speaker 2>above all this applause. After it starts to die down,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one man who's clapping the loudest and he continues

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<v Speaker 2>to clap. You know who that man is, Elizabeth. Friend

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<v Speaker 2>of the show, Leonardo DiCaprio, Meadi pause himself al Capone.

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<v Speaker 2>For his twenty seventh birthday, the boys got the boss

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<v Speaker 2>a big surprise Fats Waller.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy as a birthday presence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let's take a little break and when we get back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you how this birthday surprise plays out for

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<v Speaker 2>mister Waller. All right, Elizabeth, Yeah, Hey, we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, what's it?

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago specific East Cicero.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I love Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>You're enjoying it right old time by the lake.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Chicago. I'm loving this story. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>this is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, let's get further into what happened with mister

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<v Speaker 2>Fatz Walla and mister Alphonse Capone. So his boys grab

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<v Speaker 2>the hottest musician in jazz, going to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>their boss has a great twenty seventh birthday. But they

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<v Speaker 2>did not contact his agent or manager. They did it

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago way right right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you could probably organize this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could. There's people you can talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Content you have to pay for.

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<v Speaker 2>He has managed me, yes exactly. But they're like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a gun. This will work easier. No, ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent of this one. So Fats Waller he's in good

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<v Speaker 2>company now that he knows he's not going to die, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, they want me to play, They're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill me. So he plays a second song, Then

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<v Speaker 2>he plays a third song, fourth song, Elizabeth. He just

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<v Speaker 2>keeps playing the rest of the night. When he gets tired,

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<v Speaker 2>he stretches out on the piano bench and sleeps.

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<v Speaker 3>It off like in the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>In the middle of the party. The party keeps going

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<v Speaker 2>on around him. He's justoz, just snoozing on the piano

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<v Speaker 2>bench like a real piano player. For breakfast. When he

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<v Speaker 2>wakes up, he has some vintage champagne and then boom,

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<v Speaker 2>he's ready back to plark playing. Alphonse Capone is washed

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<v Speaker 2>up and he's down there spat's qlean.

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<v Speaker 3>He just never ends with these birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Soiree is gang stir. They want to have it be

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<v Speaker 2>up to the nines. You know, they do crime for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason, They want to live. Well, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>boss's birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>No hard you play, you play.

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<v Speaker 2>So hard, Elizabeth, so fat swaller. He only would stop

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<v Speaker 2>playing to sip champagne or to eat a little nache.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't go to bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I guess he did that too. Let's just be

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<v Speaker 2>real here, Okay, yes he did go also one and two. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so he wasn't just on the threes and fours. He

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<v Speaker 2>also did a little one in two. Now, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the food if this party must have been incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine what is Alphonse Capone eat for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seventh birthday sausages? You're a little excited about that. So

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<v Speaker 2>for three days this party last?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe hado, there we go, that's what for?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I know you're all about the Rustica Italian recipes. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>good for me, go ahead, So three days this party

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<v Speaker 2>last Elizabeth. They're eating, well, they're drinking, well, they're one

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<v Speaker 2>in two and well Fats Waller. He stays at the

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<v Speaker 2>Hawthorne Name with al Capone and his gangster buddies the

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<v Speaker 2>entire time, as I said, drinking vined Champagne, playing all

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<v Speaker 2>the songs he knows some he's just making up right.

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<v Speaker 2>According to his son Maurice, he was getting tipped one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred dollars for every song he played. The gangsters they're

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<v Speaker 2>shoveling Franklins just in his pockets. He's tickling the ivories.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, yes, please.

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<v Speaker 2>The big boss is loving it. Fats Waller's loving it too.

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>He made thousands upon thousands of dollars after the three

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<v Speaker 2>days pass same hoods originally grabbed. When they take Fats

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<v Speaker 2>Waller on another long ride, this time back to Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>They take them back to the Sherman Hotel. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>the management was like cool with this because they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we had a three day standing gig, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I Falcpone wants him that super seedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Does anyone have any like kind of maybe clue of

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<v Speaker 3>where he was or are they just thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Got grabbed by the mob and gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, they figured he got grabbed by the mall.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming people some people saw him, like he was

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<v Speaker 2>out front and he was pretty famous.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I don't know. I thought maybe they got.

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<v Speaker 2>In a long black limousine. Yeah, maybe a newspaper boy

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:21.360
<v Speaker 2>saw him. Just imagine a guy like a little hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Like and then he runs to the newspaper.

0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Tracks draft Fats while I grabbed by scoff ace.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw. Look what I said exactly. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what accent that was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was interesting a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>The kid had a speech.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a law and order level of choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Choice. If you'd like to see Fats Waller perform for yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always watch him in the nineteen forty three

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<v Speaker 2>film Stormy Weather.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were going to say, like, you can

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<v Speaker 3>buy tickets now he's dead.

0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>He's dead, Elizabeth what, Yes, one hundred years ago.

0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.840
<v Speaker 3>I wanted ai Fats Waller at my next birthday party.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pretend you didn't say that through up

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<v Speaker 2>there with your tupaca.

0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:01.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, hologram, He's not a hologram. Let's be real.

0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:05.120
<v Speaker 2>Let's be real about this. So anyway, I got another

0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:06.280
<v Speaker 2>one for you if you got a second.

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, this is the one a lot of seconds.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the one I really wanted to tell you.

0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of told you the Fats Waller one

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<v Speaker 2>just to give you a sense of scale.

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<v Speaker 3>Get me all head up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is you go like, oh, I've heard a

0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 2>story like this before, and then now I'm gonna blow

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 2>your mind with a crazier story.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it a kidnapping?

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Is a kidnap of a famous musician?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Okay, yeah, so I have heard something like this before,

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<v Speaker 3>right on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So let's jump forward in time from the Roaring

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<v Speaker 2>twenties to the counterculture sixties. Ah, this next one is

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<v Speaker 2>about Jimmy Hendricks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he got okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Hendricks got napped as a man, he got mad napped.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the summer of nineteen sixty nine, Jimmy Hendrix

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<v Speaker 2>plays the Woodstock Festival. All right, that's where he played

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<v Speaker 2>his epic version of the Star Spangled Banner for like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand mud crazed hippies while they're lying about

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<v Speaker 2>in sleeping bags, and you know, it's like, what was

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:55.679
<v Speaker 2>it breakfast in bed for one hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>I catered it.

0:22:57.160 --> 0:23:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you were there you ate oatmeal? Yeah, I may be, dang,

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 2>it should have put cinnamon in it.

0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 3>I did that. You weren't there, man, You don't understand waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>So long to say Now a few months after Woodstock,

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<v Speaker 2>this story takes place in the fall of nineteen sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is Jimmy Hendrix post Woodstock.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about this story as it's told is

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Hendrix was kidnapped and he was completely unaware of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh honeycuse for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Is just another lost weekend. Yeah, okay, now of coursing,

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling this somehow. This also tangentially involves cocaine, because

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<v Speaker 2>to tell a story with the cocaine connection comes from

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<v Speaker 2>John Roberts. He was a one.

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<v Speaker 3>Times chief justice.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not him, He was the guy who was John Roberts,

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<v Speaker 2>not his real name, who was a one time mobster

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<v Speaker 2>for the Gambino crime family.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so we got another connection there.

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he got in. He got later involved in the

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.880
<v Speaker 2>cocaine trade for the mafia and eventually became a full

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>blown cocaine cowboy. When he taught the medi Yine cartel

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.520
<v Speaker 2>how to move stuff in Miami. He's like, here's how

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<v Speaker 2>to get it over. So he got heavy in yes

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<v Speaker 2>with pabloscar Bars.

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<v Speaker 3>Group, Pablo another one.

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<v Speaker 2>All day now. Yeah, they're like bookends of the spectrum. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>not just as a drug flunky, this guy, right, he

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<v Speaker 2>was integral to the rise of the Miami coch scene

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<v Speaker 2>in the late seventies and early.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighties, and then subsequently the Miami big bass sound exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And the rise of Two Life Crews. Now, this story

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 2>takes place in nineteen sixty nine, back when John Roberts

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>was just a young wanna be mobster. Okay, he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>all of about this in a book called American Desperado,

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<v Speaker 2>which we should add to our Ridiculous Crime Book Club.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I'm just going to open a library.

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:31.320
<v Speaker 2>You need to start that, Like I want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a library on wheels.

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 3>You evenly have like presidential libraries. What I'm crime library

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<v Speaker 3>that I deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, Elizabeth Dutton library.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'm I'm just as good as they are.

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Of course, get me a possibly better.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get me a gold on library gold. I'm trying

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>to say bad words.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that. John Roberts also library, Frazzle library, Elizabeth

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 2>klod You know those little free life. Yeah, totally.

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm going to put our logo on the side

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 3>of one of them, and I'm going to fill it

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.520
<v Speaker 3>with these crime books. I like this, and someone's going

0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 3>to put some like Deepak Chopra one in there, and

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to take him a throw it in the street.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't like it anyway, John Roberts, Yes, and his

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 2>co writer. He had a co writer, Evan Wright, and

0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 2>during the writing of the book, his co writer write

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 2>he noted that quote, A few stories strained credulity when

0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:25.080
<v Speaker 2>we first sat down for the interviews that would form

0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the basis of our book. Right, so he's like, I

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know about this mobster. I think he's lying. Such

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<v Speaker 2>as the kidnapping of Jimmy Hendrix. He's like that he

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 2>really happened. Come on, John Roberts. Now, as a co writer,

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Evan Wright noted, and I quote the tale seemed patently

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>absurd until I began to look into the twisted history

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<v Speaker 2>of the New York club scene in the late nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Based on research and interviews I conducted, it turns out

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>that not only does Robert's story appear to be true,

0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he solves a mystery that has intrigued Hendrick's biographers for

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 2>more than three decades. No way, Yes, confirmation comes from

0:25:55.080 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Hendricks's inner circle. When he passed away in nineteen seven,

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 2>his close friend spoke about time just a year earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty nine, when he was kidnapped by the

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 2>mafia in New York. This was talk amongst them, right.

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 2>The story at the time was Hendrix was grabbed as

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>part of a dispute with his record label. Huh yeah,

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>right now, that may or may not be true. But

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<v Speaker 2>what was true, Elizabeth, was that one of his mafia

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 2>abductors was a man named John Rico Bono, which coincidentally

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 2>was the name of John Roberts before he.

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:24.679
<v Speaker 3>Changed it was he was the good Rico.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, John Riccobono. I'm good, Rich, Hey, I'm so.

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth you no, No, it's a Rico charge, but good.

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<v Speaker 2>The story of the kidnapping of Jimmy Hendrix, I set

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<v Speaker 2>it up enough right. First, Let's return to John Roberts

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<v Speaker 2>in his book American Desperado. In it, he recollects his

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<v Speaker 2>days as a nightclub impressario in the late nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>Being the kind of guy he is, he had a

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of opinions about that particular line of work. And

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I quote, when you run a nightclub, you will always

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>get heat from the cops. The liqua license gives them

0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 2>an automatic reason to come into your place and snoop

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 2>with any of getting into the business. Andy and I

0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>started to draw a real heat from the New York cops,

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 2>who could always be bought, but from the FBI. Two

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>incidents made them nosy about us. I'll give you a

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>guess about one of those incidents. It was the kidnapping

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and Jimmy Hendrix. Hey, FBI loves kidnappings well.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like you try. From my understanding is that

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 3>most mafia activities you try and like keep it centralized

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.479
<v Speaker 3>and localized, and you don't want to flash out on

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>anything to draw attention. And you know, Jimmy Hendrix doesn't

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 3>fly under the reader.

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>No, no, he is the opposite of discreet exactly. So

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 2>imagine the New York nightclub scene at this point is

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.400
<v Speaker 2>popping off. But we're before clubs, you know, fifty four,

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>this is pre disco, but still nightclub scene right this point,

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>still all weed, pills, coke, uppers, downers, reds, greens, Kwayluke,

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 2>exactly all your favorites, all right, sling in sixties, ha

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:50.959
<v Speaker 2>ha ha, all right, John Roberts and his partner Bradley Pierce. Right,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:52.919
<v Speaker 2>they're in charge of giving everyone what they want in

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.280
<v Speaker 2>terms of pleasure. Right. So they open this new club

0:27:55.359 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 2>called Salvation. Yeah right, so technically they reopened a shuttered club. Whatever.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>They turned the place out. Then they score a major coup.

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And they convinced Jimmy Hendrix to play the opening night

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>of their club. And yeah he does, as John Robert recalled,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and I quote at the.

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<v Speaker 6>Reopening, we had movie stars, models and one of the

0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 6>Kennedy's all waiting to get in. My business partner, Andy

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 6>was always a funny guy. He pulled me aside and said, John,

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.719
<v Speaker 6>let's spike the punch. Let them all freak out. At

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 6>our party.

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>We put handful of coueludes in the punch. People used

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to call quayludes leg openers because of the effect they

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:30.919
<v Speaker 2>had on women.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:34.719
<v Speaker 6>Our party was unbelievable. People that had probably never been

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 6>high on a drug in their life were taking a

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 6>clothes off.

0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>What can I say, John Roberts class act.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Huh, I mean, oh my god.

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Hey, So Anyway, back to Jimmy Hendrix. He's up on stage,

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>he plays this gig, he kills it. The Kennedy's like,

0:28:48.960 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 2>oh ho grudge Yeah, which one I don't know imagining

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>a ted at this point, so unus. Yeah, maybe maybe

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>he's hey. He's also, by the way, Jimmy Hendrix is

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.080
<v Speaker 2>out of his his zebo on drugs, right, just like

0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>not the good or sexy kind of drugs either. As

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Robert would put.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 6>It, Jimmy Hendrix tried to get me to shoot speed

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 6>with him, but I wasn't into needles.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>So Jimmy Hendrix is shooting speed to play rock in

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>front of these soon to be discoheads, right, what a.

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's like a disco club and he's.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Not quite exactly. Still a lot of people don't know

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 2>that Jimmy Hendrix got down with shooting speed, right. They're like,

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was more like a hippie prize.

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had a dark taste in drugs. He like speed,

0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>he liked heroin, right, That's I think the point. He

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 2>was a hand drug sexual. Now, as John Roberts wrote

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>in his book, and.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 6>I quote, Jimmy and I were never great friends. He

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 6>was so far gone. I don't think he was truly

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 6>friends with anybody. Jimmy was a bad junkie. Jimmy, we

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 6>had people all around him all the time too. He

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 6>was suffocating from these hangars. On after we met at Salvation,

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 6>he came to our house on Fire Island so we

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.440
<v Speaker 6>could get away from it all. We'd made sure nobody

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 6>bother him except for his real friends. Jimmy really liked

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 6>the whose guitarist, Leslie West, and one night two of

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 6>them played all living room all night long. Jimmy had

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 6>to shoot speed in his arm to keep up with Lesson.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 6>That's how good Leslie West was a few times we

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 6>took Jimmy waterski and off the back of my donzie.

0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 6>He like getting out doing things physically, even when he

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 6>was stoned.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, John Roberts and Jimmy obviously not super close, right,

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:24.360
<v Speaker 2>But his business partner, the Andy Pearce guy, right, he

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>was close with Hendrix. So that said, John Roberts does

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>have a particularly funny story of him and Andy taking

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Hendricks water skiing off the back of my donzie. Wait,

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, what you know what a donzie is? Right? No,

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>just picture the biggest motor boat. You can then add

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 2>in like a tower for water.

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.720
<v Speaker 3>Skiing, so it's like nine hundred feet long.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Not like that, not like not like a cigar boat. Yeah,

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I know, like hecurred like in the nineteen thirties retro

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 2>wood all wood motor boats, like you'd see him in

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Italy going between the canals, right, Yeah, because the picture

0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>that and it just updated a little bit.

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 3>A couple of tower on the back.

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>No, we're putting a tower for the water skiing, but

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>that they may have just had like a post. I'm

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 2>adding the tower for you're.

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Imagining it's like a hunting tower in the woods.

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Well either way, Elizabeth, what I'd like you to do

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>is like close your eyes.

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh and Pitch was in trouble as a clothes.

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<v Speaker 2>You are at the twentieth century resort in playland for

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 2>the rich and famous and the well connected semi wealthy,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 2>known as Fire Island. It's one of the barrier islands

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>off the coast of Long Island. At the moment, you

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 2>are the fabulous house guest of one John Robins, a

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 2>nightclub in Presario, and Mafia wise guy. You are aboard

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>his Donzie motor boat. It's a beautiful retro numbers would

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>the whole bit of beauty the sound of its motor.

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Ferrari of the water. This one is

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 2>in tip top shape and it purrs against the quiet

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>of the morning ocean. You are holding a red flag

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 2>in one hand and a cocktail in the other. You

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 2>were also still drunk and high from the night before,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and really none of you were in any kind of

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 2>shape to be water skiing, but there you are, haha.

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 2>So you're in charge of watching the skier when they

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>go down, and you've been told to raise the red

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>flag so that other boats know there's a water skier

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>down in the water. As you sip from your cocktail,

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 2>you watch the water skier carve long s turned in

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the glassy morning waters of the ocean. The water skiers,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 2>of course. Jimmy Hendricks, his wet afro hangs limpidly. Wet

0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 2>curls droop past his ears touch his shoulders. He looks

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>like a strange combination of a wet cat and the

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>happiest kit alive. He's not wearing a life jacket, just

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>a huge beaming smile. He yells for John Roberts to

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>go faster. You casually turning, you tell John Roberts. Jenny says,

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 2>go faster, faster. He shouts over the loud purr of

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 2>the Donzie engines. Okay, the engine changes pitch. It roars

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:41.280
<v Speaker 2>as the boat zooms forward faster, yanking. Jimmy Hendrick's a

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 2>long whip it. He's giddy now he tries another esker.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>You take a sip of your cocktail. When you turn back,

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.720
<v Speaker 2>there's no one there. The rope is skipping along the

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 2>wake of the boat. The Jimmy Hendrick's gone. You try

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 2>to remember what to do right. The flag is in

0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.120
<v Speaker 2>my hand. You raise it. A moment passes. Wait, that's

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.239
<v Speaker 2>not all. You turn and shout, Jimmy went down. Now.

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 2>John Roberts cusses hard and then he drops the throttle.

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 2>The boat slows dramatically. He spins the wheel, turns the

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 2>boat around and heads back to go find Jimmy Hendrix

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>lost in the Atlantic Ocean. Remember no life jacket, And

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.200
<v Speaker 2>if Jimmy Hendrix is anything like me, it also means

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>he don't float. So, in other words, my man is

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>moments away from being far less experienced. Yeah, dead and drowned.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, you can't see Jimmy Hendrix, you were finishing

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>your cocktail, and you keep lazily holding the red flag

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 2>up for any other boaters. Meanwhile, John Roberts is in

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 2>a half panic as he searches for Jimmy HENDRICKX. Finally

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 2>he spots him. He shouts, he's in the water, thrashing

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 2>the round. He tells you to throw the rope as

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 2>he swings the boat past Jimmy. When you hesitate and

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>continue to focus on the remainder of your tropical cocktail,

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>John Roberts takes a step, grabs a rope from you,

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and he tosses it to Jimmy Hendricks. His aim sucks.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 2>The rope lands a few feet from Jimmy. He has

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to swim for it, which he tries to do. He's

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>still flailing to get out of the water. He's frantic,

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>like someone threw a house cat into a hot tub,

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 2>waving his arms, slapping the water, wet afro flopping about.

0:33:59.840 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>The question now is can Jimmy Hendricks even swim? Because

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>I would in the Army. I thought they trained people

0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 2>in the Army to swim. It doesn't matter. Clearly he

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 2>cannot swim well because Jimmy he can't even make the rope.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 2>The business partner, Andy jumps over the side of the

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 2>boat and swims the rope over to Jimmy Hendrick. He

0:34:15.960 --> 0:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>makes it, saving Jimmy Hendricks's life as he glides the

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>boat clover closer to them. You hear John Roberts mutter

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to himself.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 6>Jesus Christ, if this guy dies, well out it with us.

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>What a headache that would be?

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Headache?

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you take another pull from your tropical cocktail, and

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm just glad you didn't have to jump into the

0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 2>ocean to save the guitar god guy. Obviously, Jimmy Hendrick

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 2>did not die water skiing, but he came far closer

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>than any fan would have ever wanted to a picture.

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Now, as John Roberts would later tell the story, Elizabeth.

0:34:46.239 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 6>I had some good times with Jimmy, but he was

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 6>a disaster on water skis.

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Now, now that we've done that, let's get into the kidnapping.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>But first, Elizabeth, Yeah, let's take a little break. Oh

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 2>I got some message? Is cute up? You want to

0:34:58.040 --> 0:34:58.439
<v Speaker 2>hear these?

0:34:58.520 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 6>Oh?

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You love these me with some ads? Consider these my mashups.

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 3>These are my talk backs.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Elizabeth, Hi, I've got a question for you.

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 3>How good were those ads?

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Totally right? Hot piping, hot, smelled the delicious. I mean

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>they just hit the spot against the skin.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Let's listen to some again.

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 2>No, but I do have a question for you about

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.319
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Hendrick. How much fun is it picturing to him

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>water skiing?

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's so fun. And I like your idea that

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 3>he has this like super kid grin. And then I

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 3>was thinking when you're saying, like, doesn't he know how

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 3>to swim, like for the army or whatever, there's a

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 3>big difference between swimming and a pool and swimming in

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.879
<v Speaker 3>an ocean, and I highly recommend. I mean, I think

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.399
<v Speaker 3>everyone needs to know how to swim for emergency. Yes,

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 3>every moment qua cape and it's a wonderful activity. But

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 3>it's really important if you learn how to swim to

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 3>also learn how to swim in an ocean just a pool.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, open ocean and open lakes.

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very important. So that's my public service announcement. Thanks

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 3>for asking ahead, Good job, citizen Dunton, and call her

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 3>back to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So, according to John Roberts, I'd like to get back

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 2>to his account of the kidnapping of Jimmy Hendrix. So

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:27.759
<v Speaker 2>John Roberts books. He says, the Jimmy Hendrix was, you know,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>just out on the town in New York, tral in

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the city looking for some good smack aka some New

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 2>China white heroine boom. Hendricks runs into a pair of

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:41.480
<v Speaker 2>young Italian Americans. Hi, guys, John Roberts would say, not mafia,

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.000
<v Speaker 2>but wise guy wannabes. Oh, this pair of wanna be

0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>wise guys. Right, they see Jimmy Hendrix walking around outside

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the nightclub, The Salvation, and they know it's him because

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>no one else looks like Jimmy Hendrix. Yeah, that's Jimmy Hendrix.

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>So this dude swinding around in some psychedelic band leader

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>outfit like you would wear on a Tuesday thing like that, Right,

0:37:01.080 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 2>They quickly come up with a plan like, oh man,

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.080
<v Speaker 2>so imagine the conversation kind of like this. Uh hey,

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>it's got a brilliant idea. You want to hear it? Yeah,

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 2>come on, you know I want to hear it. Okay,

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 2>So you see Jimmy Hendricks over there, right, Yeah, what

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the what the hell's he wearing? Huh No, no, no,

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 2>never mind that. Listen, what if we go over there

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 2>We promised to hook up Hendricks with some coke and

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 2>then when he goes with us, we kidnap him. We

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 2>hold him for ransom. Huh that was their place.

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 3>This is so like a Sopranos exactly.

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, hey, we we'll impressed. Tell those two.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 3>But you know you know which ones in the show

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.479
<v Speaker 3>that I'm talking about, because I've never seen the show.

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.520
<v Speaker 3>But that Furio goes and rough oh yeah, yeah, and

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 3>that's the whole thing.

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>It's the whole thing that you haven't seen. Yes, these

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>these want to be wise guys. They follow Hendricks. He

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 2>goes back to the club, The Salvation, and Hendrix is

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>on his way in for a jam session. He's supposed

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to show up, but the pair of mobster wanta bees

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>they catch up to him first and they offer him

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>some coke or heroin. I don't know exactly what they

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.920
<v Speaker 2>offered him whatever. He like, oh yeah. So Hendrick's like,

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:57.879
<v Speaker 2>he here's their offer and he goes looks like I'm

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>with you fellas right, So Hendricks is rolls with him.

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.800
<v Speaker 2>This is the start of a very strange tip for

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the old Voodoo Chot. Yeah. So we'll get back to

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 2>John Roberts accouncause he's the most authoritative on this in

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>his account of the events, and went down like this.

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<v Speaker 6>I got involved in Jimmy so called kidnapping after he

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 6>was grabbed by some guys out of Salvation. Later on,

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 6>some people accuse me of being involved in kidnapping him.

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.760
<v Speaker 6>They said I was involved with kidnappers who tied Jimmy

0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 6>to a chair and forced him to shoot arrowin please please.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking he was involved, and that's just right

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.759
<v Speaker 2>off the bat so completely. Now, I'd like to set

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>aside any ugly allegations and sensational aspects of this story,

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 2>but unfortunately that is the story. So we're just gonna

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 2>have to get right back into the sensational.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Back to John Roberts, nobody would have to force Jimmy

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:40.879
<v Speaker 6>to shoot anything. Just give him a heroin and he'd

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 6>injected himself. It was Jimmy going out searching for drugs

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 6>that got him into trouble. Andy nine were the ones

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 6>who helped him to get out of it.

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.600
<v Speaker 2>So he's a saint. He has the club Salvation. I mean,

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that's what the man does, right. So I like how

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 2>this guy, you know, when he tells the story, he's

0:38:55.800 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 2>like Hendrix. He needed me. I am his personal savior God, Like.

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.160
<v Speaker 3>He could go and shoot up, well, he doesn't also

0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>go and get kidnapped, Like, how what's the.

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on, guys, Yeah, So the great Savior, right,

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the liberator who freed Hendricks. I'm fairly certain he was

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>involved from the jump, right, Yeah, and after it all

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 2>went sideways, he cuts ties and starts telling a totally

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 2>different story.

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 3>That's my read, but that's how it comes across to me.

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you decide for yourself, Elizabeth.

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, lady, thank you.

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Here we go back to John Roberts.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 6>Jimmy had people who would usually buy dope for him,

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 6>but sometimes he gets so sick he come into our

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 6>clubs looking for drugs on his own. One night to

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 6>Italian kids at our club. Not mafia, but wise guy

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 6>Wanna Bees saw Jimmy in there looking for dope and decided, Hey,

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 6>that's Jimmy Hendricks. Let's grab him and see what we

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 6>can get. These guys were morons.

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 2>So now that this part, this all checks with what

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.600
<v Speaker 2>we know, this is you know the story right this

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Wanna be wise guys. They convince Hendricks to leave the

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>club to go get the dope and is John Roberts,

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 2>who apparently was able to either hear about this or

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 2>see it from advantage. Either way, he says.

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 6>They promised Jimmy some dope and took him to a

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 6>house out of the city. I don't know if they

0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 6>wanted money or a piece of his record contract, but

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 6>they called Jimmy's manager demanding something. Next thing I know,

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 6>the club manager called me and said Jimmy had been

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.319
<v Speaker 6>taken from our club by some itallians.

0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>So why the manager felt immediately the need to call

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>John Roberts, I think speaks for itself. Yeah right, yeah,

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>what do I know, Elizabeth? So now that the manager

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>knows Hendricks has been kidnapped, what does he do? This

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 2>is his golden goose. Yeah, well, naturally the mager calls

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the cops. And since this is a kidnapping, what do

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they do? They call the Feds? They call the FBI.

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's such a high profile.

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>So this update finds its way back to the mafia,

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming since they probably have feelers in the departments

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of the law, endorsement, and John Roberts, I'm imagine gets

0:40:39.640 --> 0:40:42.800
<v Speaker 2>contacted from some folks in the organization, right and perhaps

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was a small voice inside of him, and

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't somebody from the organization. They just told him

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:49.880
<v Speaker 2>do the right thing. John. Either way, what do I know?

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, he gets motivated, he gets on the horn,

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:55.719
<v Speaker 2>he finds Jimmy Hendrix like boom, just like that.

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 3>It's amazing, wow, so fast.

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Still, I'll let him tell it.

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 6>It took me and Andy two three phone calls to

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 6>get the names of the kids who were holding Jimmy.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 6>We reached out to these kids and made it clear,

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 6>you let Jimmy go or you were dead, do not

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 6>harm a hand of his afro.

0:41:11.840 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>So I guess the wanna be wise guys they really

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 2>listened to John Roberts because they were quick to make

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>things right. As Roberts tells it.

0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 6>They let Jimmy go. The whole thing lasted maybe two days.

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 6>Jimmy was so stone he probably didn't even know he

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:25.759
<v Speaker 6>was ever kidnapped. Andy and I waited a week or

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 6>so and went after these kids.

0:41:27.560 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>We gave him the bating. They would never forget right.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So these poor meals, they get beaten down if that

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:34.240
<v Speaker 2>even happened.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 3>I I'm sorry, but every time you say John Roberts

0:41:37.200 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 3>they still keep thinking about the supremein question.

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that fun to picture? He's like in the row?

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So fun, He's like a beating I'll never forget, Ain't

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 2>that right? Scaliah? So you remember I said the FBI

0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>gets called in, Well, the g men, they didn't exactly

0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 2>go away. So even after Jimmy Hendrick showed up, he

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.240
<v Speaker 2>had a single hair and his afro hormed, the FBI

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 2>kept sniffing around, right, and they certainly they smelled something

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:57.479
<v Speaker 2>hinky in the air.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Huh.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Back to Chief Justice John Roberts.

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 6>Here, I was the good Samaritan, But unfortunately, when Jimmy

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:05.800
<v Speaker 6>was grabbed, some of his people contact the FBI. Even

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.160
<v Speaker 6>after he was safely returned, the FBI started poking around

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 6>our business. This later led to them to tie Andy

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 6>Benfonte and me to the murder. Robert Wood that one

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.439
<v Speaker 6>good day for Jimmy Hendricks was resulted in me having

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 6>to flee New York for Miami. Who knows, if it

0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 6>hadn't have been for saving Jimmy Hendricks, I might never

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 6>have hooked up with the Mediine cartel and Pablo esco

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 6>By in Miami and started in the cocaine smuggling business.

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Wherever you are, Jimmy, thank you.

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:32.879
<v Speaker 3>Wait, there's so much to him.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Thanking Jimmy Hendricks for getting him to be friends with

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the kidnapping.

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 3>That's the reason he's bested for a murder.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I related murder. Yeah, that was the other one.

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Just a lot. There's a lot going on in that quote, right.

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.280
<v Speaker 2>I just love at the end, wherever you want, Jimmy,

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>thank you. I got to meet so as strange as

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 2>this whole let's kidnap Jimmy Hendricks to get high with him?

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Plan was right, Yeah, and obviously it failed. What happened next, Saron?

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 3>What happened next?

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 4>There?

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you for asking. Elizabeth. You're gonna love this.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:11.880
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna curl your toes. For one, there was a

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy that perhaps Jimmy Hendricks was in on it and

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 2>that there was no kidnapping. Instead, he and the mafia

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 2>conspired against his record label because remember that was mentioned,

0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 2>so he can have some leverage or I don't know

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:26.000
<v Speaker 2>what his contractory negotiations.

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>How does that produce leverage.

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>There's a more obvious angle though, that John Roberts was

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.600
<v Speaker 2>involved in the kidnapping. Yeah, we discussed and as for

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>his involvements. Of course, John Roberts vehemently denied this. He's

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 2>come on now.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Please, Well yeah, I mean maybe it backfired because he

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 3>got the attention he didn't want. But oh yeah it doesn't.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it gets deeper than that. He points out

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 2>that he wasn't at the club that day, right, as

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 2>if that has any bearing on his guilt. Becau isn't

0:43:50.360 --> 0:43:52.439
<v Speaker 2>that the classic I wasn't there? Why weren't you there?

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Whoever wasn't there that day, that's the one who's guilty.

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.040
<v Speaker 3>These are not my pants on and so forth.

0:43:59.080 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>But I'm no one, wise guy, what do I know?

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Back to John Roberts, right, he always pointed to the

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 2>fact that he was the one who found in freed Hendricks.

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm a salvation guy, right, he wants whoa whoa? Now,

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>That to me is not the most convincing argument, since

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.879
<v Speaker 2>his kidnapper would have the same ability to free him

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.800
<v Speaker 2>as the person who is a savior. Right. But there

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 2>were some who felt that John Roberts was involved and

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 2>was working with Jimmy Hendrix manager. Yeah, which to me

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.320
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, okay, right, because it's a really complicated attempt

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 2>to blackmail the record label into a better contract. That

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make sense, right, but something else does. I prefer

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the theory that the manager was in cahoots with John

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Roberts and he had the mafia kidnap his client, and

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.560
<v Speaker 2>then the manager would act as the hero and save him.

0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.680
<v Speaker 2>And it is deeply indebted and grateful client Jimmy Hendrix

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't go and get a new manager, which he had

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 2>been threatening to do. Oh yes, that's a motive, right

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 2>for a kidnapper. That one makes sense to me. But wait,

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I have to warn you things are about to get

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>even darker than that, because I don't have to speculate.

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Because there is a man named James Tappy Wright. He

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.239
<v Speaker 2>was Jimmy Hendrix's former roady. He also wrote a book.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 2>We got a really literate crew book title Rock Roady.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's creative.

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought you'd like that one. And in Rock

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Roady he accused the manager, Michael Jeffrey, of murdering Jimmy Hendrix. Wait, yes,

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 2>the roady to Hendrix wrote that the manager confessed to

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>him that he murdered Jimmy Hendrix. What And I know,

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I know this breaks our one percent rule, but I

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>thought this one was worth bringing up. So, according to

0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 2>James Tappy Wright, the manager gave Hendrix a boatload of

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 2>pills and booze as part of his plan to kill

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 2>them and get rich off of an insurance policy that

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>he had on the rock Star. The way he tells it,

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the manager confessed his murder plot one year after Hendricks died,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>and two years before he himself would die in a

0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 2>plane crash. So we have no other confirmation or denial.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's why he hasn't sued over the.

0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Exactly as a roady, Wright writes, I can still hear

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 2>that conversation. See the man I'd known for so much

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>of my life his face, he's pale, hand clutching at

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.719
<v Speaker 2>his glass in sudden rage. That's the manager he's talking about,

0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jeffrey. Later on he quotes the manager's version of events,

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:09.880
<v Speaker 2>writing that he said, and I quote this is the

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 2>manager speaking. He's quoting the manager. I was in London

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.759
<v Speaker 2>the night of Jimmy's death together with some old friends.

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 2>We went around to Monica's hotel room, got a handful

0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:19.200
<v Speaker 2>of pills and stuffed them into his mouth, and poured

0:46:19.200 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 2>a few bottles of red wine deep into his windpipe.

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 3>What.

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, there was indeed a life insurance policy, and since

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Hendrix was estranged from his family, the manager, Jeffrey, was

0:46:28.800 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the beneficiary of a two million dollar payout.

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding? I've never heard any of this British.

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I found this all in British press. The American press

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 2>was hard to find this, but it was all over

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the British press. I'd to piece it together from different stories.

0:46:39.719 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 2>But the roadie Ride recalled that the manager told him,

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 2>and I quote, I had to do it. Jimmy was

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 2>worth much more to be dead than alive. That son

0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 2>of a was going to leave me. If I lost him,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I'd lose everything. Starting to sound pretty murderous.

0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, So there it is.

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It's all circumstantial, I would admit that, but for someone

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like me, it's pretty damn compelling.

0:46:57.320 --> 0:46:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I tend to believe Roady's teamsters, you know, the people

0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:01.799
<v Speaker 2>who are around but have no real value.

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.760
<v Speaker 3>No one pays attention to them exactly.

0:47:03.840 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>They seem they see everything. People look past them. So

0:47:06.120 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I tend to believe those guys. They are, they were there,

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 2>and they tell what they know anyway, which means I

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>think Jimmy Hendricks was kidnapped by the mafia as part

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 2>of a plot by his manager, and then a year

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 2>later his manager likely often.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:20.800
<v Speaker 3>Wowow right, Wow, you know, I think that's you've earned

0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>the one person. I felt we've banked a lot of.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:30.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we could do like a we've avoided often.

0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought this one was important to include. Wow, Elizabeth,

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:35.919
<v Speaker 2>what's a ridiculous takeaway?

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 3>Yay, my ridiculous takeaway? You wanted to my ridiculous You

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 3>have never asked that.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I considered it fresh, though, what how they feel?

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 3>I think my ridiculous takeaway is I'm still trying to

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 3>process the idea that Jimmy Hendricks was purposely poisoned in

0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 3>essence with.

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 2>By Chief Justice John Roberts.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Justice John Roberts, that is just so much.

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jeffrey, the manager, Yeah, was working with apparently mobsters,

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 2>and then when that didn't work, he's like, I'll do

0:48:04.280 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 2>it myself.

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, and it's like, you know, it wasn't a surprise

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Hendrix's death.

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Sadly, it was not a surprise for his inner circle,

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>but it was still one of those things that I think,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 2>like Princess passing, you were left wondering you left with questions.

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think that's the thing is that when

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.440
<v Speaker 3>you have these instances where it's not a surprise, but

0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 3>it's still you know, this person that the world is

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.080
<v Speaker 3>a little too much for them and they're a little

0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:32.080
<v Speaker 3>too much for the world complete, but they that also

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 3>makes them susceptible to these types of things.

0:48:34.239 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>And these types of people. Yeah, because you know that's

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>terrible when you're a dreamer, you don't got like, you know,

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the feet on the ground. People come along and be like,

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>oh hey, I'll hold you up.

0:48:41.239 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 3>My ridiculous takeaway, thank you for asking once again, you

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:49.080
<v Speaker 3>have another one. This was Zeron. This was a thrill ride,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:51.880
<v Speaker 3>but hot doodles, it's a bummer.

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sorry about that. I didn't know how to get

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 2>around that part. I was like, I can try to

0:48:56.080 --> 0:48:58.359
<v Speaker 2>find them, like you have to tell a light joke

0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>and land On, I was like, there's nothing to them, Like,

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.799
<v Speaker 2>so how about wet Jimmy Hendricks. That was fun to picture, right, No.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 3>This was a really beautifully constructed episode. I do have

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 3>to say that, Sarah, what's your ridiculous takeaway?

0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 2>What do I got to do everything over here? Yes,

0:49:14.960 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 2>my ridiculous takeaway is that. I was really uh glad

0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to hear that Jimmy Hendricks and I have more in

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 2>common than I imagined, which is that we both would look

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 2>like wet cats when wet. It would likely drown. If

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 2>if people you know who are supposed to be helping

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 2>us by dragging us around the ocean in a boat

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and they put down their drinks long enough, they can

0:49:33.960 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>save our lives because we are going to go down.

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I was like, man, Jimmy, I fail you.

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:38.640
<v Speaker 3>You can swim in the ocean.

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but with a wet suit that that has a

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:45.080
<v Speaker 2>lot of buoyancy. Oh yeah, trust I'm always glad to

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 2>have that wet suit. That's all I got for you today,

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:54.080
<v Speaker 2>all I have for you. So you move maybe with that?

0:49:54.120 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 2>How about that? Pretty sure? Dave hit it? Oh my god,

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I love you.

0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 5>Hi, Elizabeth and Zarin. My name is Kathleen, and I

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.360
<v Speaker 5>wanted to talk about Thursday's episode where you mentioned Irish

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:20.919
<v Speaker 5>step dancing. I was a competitive Irish step dancer for

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:25.360
<v Speaker 5>thirteen years and I can confirm that it's pretty incestuous

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 5>and you definitely do it at bars when you're drunk

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 5>as an adult. But also my teacher for over a

0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:35.960
<v Speaker 5>decade was Sandra Connick. Thanks so much for all you do.

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.040
<v Speaker 5>I really appreciate listening to you twice a week.

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:41.240
<v Speaker 3>Wow, that was Jostle.

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's amazing.

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Love Kathleen totally. I like that she had the big

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 3>boss as a teacher. It's amazing.

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 2>And she also pointed out that my random dancing idea

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 2>of children dancing in bars has almost an analog, but

0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.400
<v Speaker 2>it's adults, so I got to I got correct, So

0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:03.399
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<v Speaker 2>produced and edited by Spanish Castlemagicman Dave Houston. Slave Return

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<v Speaker 2>Lee and Well Maybe I was misbehaving Dutton. The host

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