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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hello, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Cowboys Break. It's been a while, are

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Speaker 1: you guys good? It's been it feels like I was

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Speaker 1: literally just thinking, it feels like it's been a month.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long two weeks. It's fine, Yeah, feel good.

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Speaker 1: How are you good? Derek will be joining us in

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Speaker 1: a little bit whenever he feels like it. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's his thing. You can do that when you're the

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Speaker 1: Boston they're watching TV. I think, yeah, well, let's get

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Speaker 1: right into it. I mean, obviously, as of right now,

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Speaker 1: it's been kind of a slow week and not many

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Speaker 1: things have happened. But one of the things that did

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Speaker 1: happen was last night, Jason Witten, he had his help me.

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Speaker 1: I would pronouncing this college college, collegiate, collegiate. Wow, definitely

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Speaker 1: Man of the Year award. Well, aren't it like a

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Speaker 1: four point zero I was. I guess they didn't. I

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Speaker 1: guess they didn't say that word. They don't give it

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Speaker 1: grades unpronouncing words. But Collegiate Man of the Year Jason

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Speaker 1: Witten went to Tennessee. Picked a guy from Tennessee. Shocker. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, guys. Now, the quarterback position is the position

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, let's sorry. No, it's all good.

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Speaker 1: It's all good. Okay. We've talked about Dak quite a lot,

426
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Speaker 1: and we're still waiting on that. Assuming that happens. The

427
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys signed Dak Prescot to a contract. Blah blah blah. Okay,

428
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Speaker 1: all good. Let's talk about the backup quarterback position and

429
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Speaker 1: what happens there and what the Cowboys should do with

430
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Speaker 1: that given the fact that there are a lot of

431
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Speaker 1: veteran guys out in the market with free agency, and

432
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: this is something that you know, a lot of fans

433
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Speaker 1: start commenting on and asking questions, Oh, is this guy

434
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Speaker 1: coming here or so and so, you know, so what

435
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Speaker 1: are your expectations with the backup quarterback? Should they keep

436
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush? Who's been here what three four? Three four years? Yeah,

437
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: he just finished his third year I believe third year,

438
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: which yeah, because he's a restricted free agent. So it's

439
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: a really interesting conversation and you keep, I keep copying

440
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Speaker 1: out because you have to change everything you think you

441
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: know about the way they do things because it's a

442
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: completely different coaching staff. Like Cooper Rush was, he was

443
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's that he was that staff's guy. They found him,

444
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: they developed him, they loved him. Mike McCarthy doesn't know

445
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: this dude, and he didn't play a role in his development.

446
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy has been a quarterback friendly coach for his

447
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: entire career. He might have a completely different idea of

448
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: like what he wants in a backup player like Cowboys

449
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: haven't invested in a veter and back up in a

450
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: long time, not since Kyle Orton. It's hard to believe

451
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: that they would want to do that if they're going

452
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: to drop a bunch of money on Dak Prescott. But

453
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: it might be something Mike McCarthy values. Or again, you know,

454
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Speaker 1: drafting a quarterback is always a good idea in my opinion,

455
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: that could be a you know, an avenue they go down.

456
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Speaker 1: They haven't done it. They did it two years ago

457
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: with Mike White. It didn't work out. But keep trying

458
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: to punch those lottery tickets. Man, I think you should

459
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: do it all the time, honestly, quarterback. Yeah, I mean

460
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Speaker 1: not with a big pick, but this day three hell yeah. Yeah.

461
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: This is this conversation is assuming the dad because because

462
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Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of like walking, you know, like

463
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Speaker 1: walking to your table at a restaurant. You're really hungry

464
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Speaker 1: and you just walk past the dessert menu or a

465
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Speaker 1: dessert train. You're like, okay, well we'll talk about that

466
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Speaker 1: in a little bit. Well let's focus on this. It

467
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Speaker 1: wouldn't we get this down and we'll see Because I

468
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Speaker 1: think what happens with Dak and how much you pay

469
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Speaker 1: them is is kind of will affect what happens with

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Speaker 1: it with the backup quarterback. But like you said, let's

471
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Speaker 1: just let's assume that it's fair market and all this. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think you do need to get a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of experience. There a guy that you feel like,

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Speaker 1: if he has to go in and play in the game,

475
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change a lot. You're not having to worry.

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Speaker 1: What's Cooper Rush going to be like, you know, give

477
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Speaker 1: me a guy that's done it, he started some games.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some out there. There are actually there

479
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Speaker 1: are quite a few many names I do. I mean,

480
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Speaker 1: the one that jumps off the page to me is

481
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Speaker 1: Colt McCoy. Obviously, yes, Texas guy spent forever in Washington.

482
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Speaker 1: I'd be all all aboard that train me too, because

483
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that's not gonna you know, he's not

484
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Speaker 1: gonna I mean, unless you're the ut guy, you're not

485
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Speaker 1: gonna be like every time Dak goes a pick, you're like,

486
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Speaker 1: let's play McCoy Like, no one's gonna do that. But

487
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Speaker 1: if something were to happen to Dac and nothing ever has,

488
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Speaker 1: but if it's someone you've seen do something you can

489
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Speaker 1: step right in and play. And he's playing. He's beaten

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys I think when they were six and one,

491
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Speaker 1: seven and one and they had Tony Romo. Yeah, that

492
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Speaker 1: was That was a game where you know, the Cowboys

493
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: were rolling and the Redskins were struggling and it was

494
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Speaker 1: a Monday night game and he came in and beat him.

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Speaker 1: Career backup Chase Daniel is available. I'd love that. AJ

496
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 1: mccaren is an unrestricted free agent. Drew Stanton chat mccaren.

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Speaker 1: Do you like that? I mean, you know he went

498
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Speaker 1: to Alabama, that's his choice. That's finer. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: if if the Cowboys were interested, I don't think that's

500
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Speaker 1: a terrible idea. Um case Keenum. It's hard to gauge.

501
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 1: Matt Moore obviously has a history with the Cowboys. He

502
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Speaker 1: was Mahomes's backup in Casey and played well when he

503
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Speaker 1: needed to this year. Um yeah, I can see that. Shoot.

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Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is available. Like and I like, these names

505
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: aren't gonna get you excited, that's not the point, but like,

506
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Speaker 1: these are all guys that have started NFL games. Some

507
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Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna be pricey because they play

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Speaker 1: they play quarterback. I don't think he's available. I might

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Speaker 1: be wrong. Um, I don't see him on the list. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Rush isn't isn't a name that gets

511
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Speaker 1: anyone excited either. So but I think, but all the

512
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Speaker 1: guys I just named have started meaningful games in the NFL,

513
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Speaker 1: Like I would go that route. I would, I would,

514
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Speaker 1: I would get a guy in here like that. Some

515
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Speaker 1: experience a little bit. I know this is I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: this is so like the quarterback market is obviously absurd,

517
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Speaker 1: but like, if you get a guy like that, you're

518
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Speaker 1: paying good money for that. It's true, that's not cheap.

519
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: And are you willing to do it that that will

520
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: be more than what they would pay for Jason Witten

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Speaker 1: or um Sean Lee to come back? Don't you think?

522
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Speaker 1: Oh year I ten? Yeah, Pam pumped that thing up.

523
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Speaker 1: Depending on how qualified you want your quarterback to be,

524
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Speaker 1: you're probably I mean, which based on what you know,

525
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Speaker 1: So it's not that important to you. No, it isn't

526
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Speaker 1: not a ten million a year. I mean, it depends

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback. Like I all right, I don't keep

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Speaker 1: talking while I don't. I don't want to pay a

529
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Speaker 1: guy ten million to wear a ball cap, and you

530
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Speaker 1: know what, if it happens, we're dacked out three or

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Speaker 1: four games, you know what, that's bad. But it's not

532
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: like these guys are like the Savior, Like you will

533
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: definitely win if Chase Daniel starts for you. I mean,

534
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: you know you still struggle. Colt McCoy was only making

535
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,360
Speaker 1: four million a year on his last deal. That's phenomenal

536
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: for me. I'm on board with that, gay, But again,

537
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: like some, it just depends on how experienced he is.

538
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: Like the Eagles paid Chase Daniel a staggering amount of

539
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: money to not ever play for them a few years ago,

540
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: because you can command that when you're a quarterback. It's

541
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: a lower number than what we talk about with that

542
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: because you're not talking about regular starters. But quarterbacks just

543
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: get paid more money because things go to hell if

544
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: you don't have one, even if it's just a backup.

545
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: It's just like insurance on your house, you know. I

546
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: guess you can make the argument of, Okay, well we

547
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: haven't necessarily seen Cooper Rush playing with all the starters.

548
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: Fair but very fair. I don't know, I don't know

549
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: if that makes me feel any more better. You know,

550
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: he plays pretty well in the preseason games. Remember he

551
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: wasn't playing that well going into Hawaii, he played like

552
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: a legend as a rookie, like he was amazing, and

553
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: then it's just kind of been ever since, which which

554
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: he's not playing with starters, the offensive, backup offensive. Absolutely,

555
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: I mean it is actually pretty good. But even a

556
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: practice though seeing him making not making peak, that's okay,

557
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: But here you expect the growth to happen, and it

558
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: was like it's been backwards. You know, this is an

559
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: interesting This is an interesting wrinkle for me. Cooper Rush

560
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: is a restricted free agent, which means if you want

561
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Speaker 1: to bring him back, you have to tender him, which

562
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: there's three you know, you can tender him as a

563
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: first round pick, second round pick, or the round originally drafted,

564
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: which he was not drafted. So I think that's a

565
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: really interesting dynamic because you can tag him as a

566
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Speaker 1: second round pick, and that scares teams away because then

567
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: you gotta if you want to sign him, you gotta

568
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Speaker 1: give up a second round pick to get him. It

569
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Speaker 1: also means, you know, he's making probably like Cult McCoy money,

570
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Speaker 1: Like I think it's I think it's three three point

571
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Speaker 1: five as a second round pick, and it jumps up

572
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: to like four or five as a first round pick

573
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Speaker 1: if you tender him in the round you originally drafted him.

574
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Speaker 1: That anybody can sign him and they don't know you

575
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Speaker 1: anything because he was not drafted, so he's not technically

576
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Speaker 1: worth a draft pick. So I'm if the Cowboys want

577
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Speaker 1: to keep him, I'm curious what they would do there.

578
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: And there is a fourth option for those restricted guys.

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Speaker 1: What I've seen the Cowboys do is they'll they'll they

580
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: say they'll they'll buy the restricted year, so they'll they'll

581
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Speaker 1: give him a deal and you know, like a two

582
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: year deal, and they'll they'll pay him for this one

583
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: and then the next one. So he's not really going

584
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: into his last year. But I think he comes back.

585
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's the only backup option there

586
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: because you said it way at the start here. It's

587
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: hard to talk about this because you don't know what

588
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: the staff, how the staff values this. I just think Mike,

589
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy's calling card his whole career has been offense.

590
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: Like he's tied at the hip to Aaron Rodgers for

591
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: better and for worse. He's an offensive minded guy, he's

592
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a quarterback guru, but like

593
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of been his thing, right, And it's hard

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Speaker 1: for me to believe, with everything that I know about

595
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Speaker 1: football coaches that he's gonna walk in and be like, oh, yeah,

596
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: this guy's good, like you know, like, yeah, this guy

597
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: that was here with the last like, I like him

598
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: just as much as the last staff did. Yeah, I don't.

599
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: And I based that on nothing other than my experience

600
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: knowing that like football coaches want their guys and they

601
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: want things their way, you know. I just thought about this.

602
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: So Brett Farve was still had a few years left,

603
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Speaker 1: you know when he played. He played three or four

604
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: more years, right, and it was a I mean Brett Farve,

605
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Speaker 1: He's won three MVPs at the time, won a Super

606
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Speaker 1: Bowl and they moved on to Aaron Rodgers and he

607
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: was the head coach for that. So this just kind

608
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: of stems back to the last conversation we had of

609
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Speaker 1: the previous discussion about Witton and Sean Lee. He's had

610
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: to do this before, where true he parted ways with

611
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, and that was that was tough for the

612
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: fan base still to understand. You know, so, um, he's

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that was his decision all the way. Now,

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00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: there was also Aaron Rodgers there, and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers are gonna be pretty good and

616
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: not call him Blake Jaron Aaron Rodgers. I'm just saying

617
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: he's had to make these tough calls before that probably

618
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: weren't that popular for fans, And I think this one

619
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: was a little different too, because I think fans would

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Speaker 1: probably be okay with it with Witten. I think most

621
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Speaker 1: sense that they're kind of like I think most fans

622
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: just kind of want to move into a completely new era.

623
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Speaker 1: Like they're gonna keep their Jason Witton jerseys, they are gonna,

624
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, the fatheads not coming down, but they're just

625
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: ready for a no era of cowboy football. Well, when

626
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: anyone searches for Michael Jordan highlights, they don't ever say

627
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan Wizards, right because they don't want to see

628
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan playing for the Wizards because it wasn't the

629
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan that they remember. And they don't want Jason

630
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Speaker 1: Witten to come out here and have another year like

631
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Speaker 1: this now if he doesn't have that one handed catch

632
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: against the Rams that that would be a lot easier

633
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: for people to maybe even for himself. Yeah, but I

634
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: mean Jason Witten's best plays of his career top five

635
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: catches ever, one of them is going to be from

636
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Speaker 1: last year because that was amazing. Might actually be hindering

637
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: this and say, but at the same time, he did

638
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: make a lot of errors that you're now used to seeing.

639
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: Hint me, that's what I'm saying. I mean that catch

640
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: might have actually been kind of it's it might be

641
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: that golf shot on number eighteen where you hit it

642
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: right down the middle and you're right, I'm playing next

643
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: week and you're like, you shot at one twelve, Like

644
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: you sucked that. I'm talking about myself. I've done that.

645
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: I've played terrible, hit it all over the yard, but

646
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: the last couple holes that was the shot, and that

647
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: gets you to come back and go, I'm playing. I'm

648
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: playing again, Sign me up. And I guess that's the

649
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: point I was trying to make in the first segment,

650
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: is like, if you're gonna split snaps and just be

651
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: a guy, then why not just get a guy? You know, Like,

652
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: why does it have to be one of the most

653
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: legendary plays in franchise history. Like you can get anybody

654
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: to fill that role, including a draft pick who's going

655
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: to cost you a lot less and can develop into

656
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: something much better in the future. Is then embarrassing if

657
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: that guy is just kind of a guy that does

658
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: also have this Like that's exactly that's no what I

659
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: think Jason Witten knows that too. Like he's got a

660
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: thirty foot mural in the Star of him making his

661
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: helmetless catch, like one of the best moments in recent

662
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: franchise history. You can't go out to practice and not

663
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 1: see it. And right when you go to practice, you

664
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: know he did. He took fewer snaps, like he was

665
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: a good team player, and like I'm not saying anything

666
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: bad about him, but like, is he gonna he's a

667
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: cool just being a guy who gets forty five percent

668
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: of the snaps, and like he comes in and twelve personnel,

669
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: but Jarwin is playing in eleven personnel a lot more

670
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: than him, Like no way, I don't buy that, which

671
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: is what just you know again, it's nothing against him,

672
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: but like it just sounds easier for everybody if you

673
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: move on, Like Jarwin's this guy you can draft a

674
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: player in the third or fourth round, and you know,

675
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: maybe they won't even be that good. Maybe you'll still

676
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: have to address this position in the future. But it's

677
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: just it just feels like time for turning the page

678
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: to me see what I did. I got it right

679
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: back to right back. Which I feel the same way

680
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: about quarterback as I do with Witten. Like, if they

681
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: want to bring Cooper Rush back, I'm not gonna like

682
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: write an angry column about it. That's fine because I

683
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: don't anticipate him playing. Dak hasn't missed a game yet

684
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: in his career. But I would rather sign a Colt

685
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: McCoy who's been there and done that and honest, and

686
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: if we could draft a guy in the sixth round

687
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: or you know, late, just to kind of like have

688
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: him and you know, look at him in training camp, like,

689
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: that's the way that I would prefer to go about it.

690
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't miss a lot of games. Oh my god. Okay,

691
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: let's switch up the conversation a little bit. Please switch

692
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: up the conversation a little bit. This question is gonna

693
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: be hard to answer because you know, we still don't

694
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen in free agency and we

695
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen in the draft, but

696
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: because it is late February, why not when you look

697
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: at the current roster and the guys that the Cowboys

698
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: do have on their list, who would you say is

699
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: a guy that you would expect to have a bigger

700
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: role in this next season? Mmma, already on a team?

701
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: Because again, for example, I'll give you an example, a

702
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: guy that people are bringing up and mentioning a lot.

703
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. Okay, maybe a guy that could step up,

704
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: depending assuming that Baron Jones leaves and all of that,

705
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: and maybe he gets a bigger role. Hi, Derek, how's

706
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: everything going? Hey? Man? Back? Slightly contentious today, honestly, like

707
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: just a little with Amber and Nick and an air

708
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: of contention. Okay, um, So to welcome you back into

709
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: the show, let me ask you this question we talked

710
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: about and yet at all so I'm kidding, don't mention

711
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: who would be a guy this is without think get

712
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: into consideration what's going to happen in free agency and

713
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: the draft. Who would be a guy in the current

714
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: roster that could end up having a bigger role this year?

715
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: I got it, bigger role like anybody who's on the

716
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: team last year that's an ascending player, is what you're saying,

717
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: will be better next year, have more of a role

718
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: next year. I obviously you know for sure it's going

719
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: to be back this year. I just I just want

720
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: to point out that, like half the roster's not under contract.

721
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of I think there's an easy answer here, Okay,

722
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, I hope so good. God see, I was

723
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: gonna say, Michael Gallop, Gallup Pollard either one. Jordan Lewis

724
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe if you think you may have to. I don't

725
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: know if they are convinced that he is a starting

726
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: caliber corner, like I mean, I have a lot of

727
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: options though, right, No, I agreed, But I'm just saying,

728
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: where do you stand between him and Cheeto? Uh? I'm

729
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: between those two. I'm the middle linebacker because those two

730
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: are about starters, right and then unless you draft someone,

731
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they will bring cornerbacks into this team one

732
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: way or another. They have. We've just put Byron Jones out.

733
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't actually somebody asked me about this on Twitter

734
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: before we came on the show. I don't know how

735
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: how you can't and we're wrong all the time. I

736
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: say it all like, who knows they might make something work.

737
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Maybe Byron Jones really wants to stay here, but it

738
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like it. I cannot your right standpoint.

739
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: I can't come up with a logical argument for how

740
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: he stays. It just doesn't feel like he wants. I

741
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: just think he wants to test the market and he should.

742
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: I think he is. I think the markets willing to

743
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: pay him more than the Cowboys. Yeah. Byron Jones is

744
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: one of the smartest players in that locker room, and

745
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: he has to be aware of what good cornerback play

746
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: is worth in free agency, and Rake quonnerback play even good,

747
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: also has to be aware that he has been in

748
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: a contract year for just as long as Dak and

749
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Amari and nobody's talking about it art and we are now,

750
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: But like all through the summer and the and the fall,

751
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: it was Dak and him a Dak and Amari throws

752
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: Zeke's contract hold out in there too, and he's just like, Okay,

753
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: I guess my All Pro season didn't mean much to anybody.

754
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: And by the way, when the questions asked to Stephen

755
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: Jones about who their priorities are consistently since last year.

756
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: He's always said Dak, He's always said Amari, yep, I

757
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: have not maybe you guys have. I've never heard him

758
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: mentioned by its part of that, So it speaks volumes

759
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: to me, just that nobody, not just the fans and media.

760
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like the people that are making the

761
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: decisions are talking about him as a guy that is

762
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: a priority for me is oh sorry, I hope he

763
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: goes to a team with relatively small market but has

764
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: some good money. You know, you know, we'll have a

765
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: lot of money, like Tampa Bay or some button something

766
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: like that. Because he goes to a big market with

767
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: a lot with a passionate fan base. The first thing

768
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna do when he signed this big numbers, They're

769
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: gonna look at the stats. He doesn't have any They're

770
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to the next Gen stats and

771
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff to Pro Football Focus to show all

772
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: that because he doesn't have any picks. And then he

773
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be like Brandon Carr was, where

774
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: he better be absolutely perfect because that price tag is

775
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: the stat that people are gonna look at and go,

776
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: Scott doesn't make any plays. We just paid him ninety million,

777
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: and he doesn't make any plays. So I just hope

778
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: that you know, he's gonna go to a place and

779
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: maybe he will make plays, maybe he'll make interceptions, or

780
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: that he's mentally tough enough to deal with the fact

781
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: that everybody's going to be looking at him sideways because

782
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: he's not. And I do think he is and he

783
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: has been because remember his first round pick that was

784
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: ridiculed in his first few years and he kind of

785
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: overcame that. And so I mean, I think everybody really

786
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: likes Byron Jones and wishes him well, but it just

787
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's gonna come back. Is that a mistake?

788
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: And that's like, that's the conversation that is raging on

789
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Twitter right now. Not for me, you don't think so.

790
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: Not if the Cowboys can get and you wouldn't know

791
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: better than I do. If there are quality cornerbacks coming

792
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: out of the draft that I feel like I can

793
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: go and get that I feel like will be half

794
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: the potential to be better, which I assumed there are

795
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: some that will win the Cowboys pick, then I would

796
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: rather go back to the well on them. Okay, then

797
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: what do you think about this? Scenario. He's not. You

798
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: didn't get him, you didn't bring him back, and you

799
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: you only got a couple of corners in free agency,

800
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: but nothing that you really like Anthony Brown being won,

801
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: and then you got some other fifth year guy. So

802
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: now you're sitting at number seventeen, and then there's a

803
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: corner right there for I don't know who, who's a

804
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: decent corner. Maybe seventeen um C. J. Henderson Christian Fulton

805
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: from LSU in Florida. Those two are okay, those two guys,

806
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: and they're pretty good. They're pretty good player. You asked

807
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: for this, You wanted to go back to the well

808
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: hold on. But now I'm talking about LSU. Right the

809
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: number sixth overall prospect on their board has fallen to seventeen,

810
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 1: and he's a defensive tackle. Take him. Okay, So that's

811
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I just you want to get a corner,

812
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: but you don't want to go into a draft pigeonhole.

813
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: I get all that. My thought is, and I don't

814
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: know again, I need to go and look at all

815
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: the free agents that are out there. If I'm gonna

816
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 1: pay top dollar, I'm at least looking for a guy

817
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: top dollar that's gonna get me some picks or even

818
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: more importantly, gonna give me some past defenses. Like I

819
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: know that Byron can cover well, but I want to see.

820
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: I want to see dollar for dollar, you can just

821
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: same contract Byron Jones or a Slay that takes Slay. Yeah,

822
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: that's my point, Like, if I'm gonna pay top dollar,

823
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: I want a guy that's done it, and Byron just

824
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: hasn't done that. And again that doesn't corner, do you not?

825
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Don't you have to trade for Slay? Is he not

826
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: a free agent? I don't believe he is, but to

827
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: t and I need to look at the list of

828
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: free agents. But my point is, if I'm gonna pay

829
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: top dollar, I don't think. I don't think Baron Byron

830
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: is necessarily the top corner out there in the free

831
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: agent mark. I think he's up there among the top.

832
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily the top. I want to

833
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: see if there are other guys that are commanding that

834
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of salary that at least have some picks on

835
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: the resume. He's got twenty pass breakups the last two seasons.

836
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: How does that rank? I have no idea, But it's

837
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: not like he doesn't get that, but that's my own

838
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm interested to know how that ranks, because that doesn't

839
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: seem like a nordinately large number for two seasons. Yeah,

840
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like it's it's not crazy high. Also,

841
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: but teams don't throw at him as much as they're

842
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't this this is the debate. He doesn't get picks.

843
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: But there is a lot of value in just handling

844
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: your half of the field. But is that also, and

845
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: I said this on a previous show, is that also

846
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: because they saw such opportunity on the other side, and

847
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: maybe that's your bigger problem, all right, then such opportunity

848
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: Then they were like, well, we don't in that case,

849
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: you have bigger problems in your secondary than just I mean,

850
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: and there is, and I think right now there are

851
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: some bigger problems in your secondary right now than just

852
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. That's also the reason why I don't know

853
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: if I want to go out and spend as much

854
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: money on Byron Jones, because I think you got to

855
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: fill a lot of it in your theoretical future here

856
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 1: though you're letting Byron walk And you just said you

857
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: don't like the job that Cheeto is doing. At all,

858
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna plug not even the best cornerback

859
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: in the draft class and expect him to excel from

860
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: day one. And that's gonna be better either him or

861
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: go out and get a better free agent cornerback. If

862
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay top dollar, go find me another free

863
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: agent cornerback that has more picks. I don't think that's realistic.

864
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: Do you think Byron is the top cornerback on the

865
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: free agent market? Probably? Yeah? Probably. I saw lest the

866
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: other day. It had him in three, but I didn't

867
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: go and look at the stats of the other guys.

868
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 1: Let's dive into that. I kind of It's just it's

869
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: a weird dynamic to just say I'm letting him this

870
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: guy go, and I'm now creating a big need. I

871
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: get that, but guess what, you got a lot of

872
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: You got a lot of things to consider it. If

873
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: Byron was the only free agent you have this year,

874
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: then I'd be like, absolutely signed Byron back. Let's that's

875
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: not the case. Let's go ahead and take our final

876
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,520
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877
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,799
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878
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,360
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913
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: been discussing Barron Jones and whether he should return with

914
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: the whether the Cowboys should try to pay him what

915
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: he would. Yes, we can talk about when, but stop,

916
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: I gotta go back to listen. He had a little

917
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: we got wet after a little bit. Nick Nick wants

918
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: him back, right, Yeah, I figure here we're going. I

919
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: just think, you know, I mean, I know, I know

920
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: you like your guys. You like your guys, Yeah, I

921
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: mean I like win and I just like it's the

922
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: whole Ricky Waters question. Okay, you want to get rid

923
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: of him for who? For what? You know? Like like, yeah,

924
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a clear I'm sorry, Yeah

925
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: I did, shouldn't done it, but anyway, y'all go ahead.

926
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: We'll talk about st after the ship. Are you okay?

927
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: We came up with a name that I'm you know, Chris.

928
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: Chris Harris is intriguing to me. He's older than Byron.

929
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: We talk about cornerbacks. Now, guys, how much you know,

930
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: how much longer will he play at a high level?

931
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: But he's he's already one, been a lost whole owner

932
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: at times in his life. He's probably trying to get

933
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: away from Denver. They don't look like they're gonna be

934
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: competing soon. He's the guy that you have to or

935
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: that type of player is who you sign in free

936
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: agency to prevent you from being forced to take a

937
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: corner in the free ground, and if it falls to you,

938
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: you don't take right. That's exactly where you just you

939
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: don't have to because because guess what you got to replace.

940
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: Next year, you're probably going to be looking to replace

941
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: Cheeto as well, Right, so you still want to go

942
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: out and get yourself you're gonna get Even if you

943
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: kept Byron, you still maybe probably want to draft a

944
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: corner high in this draft, right. I think this, I

945
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: think that is an overly optimistic idea of the type

946
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: of player that they signed to ensure themselves. Like that's

947
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: a that's a high end signing. Like that's a guy

948
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: that gets fans excited. That's the guy in one of them,

949
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: and right now they're running low on them as of

950
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: next year. But like, if that's the case, then the

951
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: guy you draft replaces Cheeto, right the guy that the

952
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: guy that you sign, Like just looking at the names,

953
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: like the guy that you signed to ensure yourself is

954
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: like Eli Apple or have y'all paid attention to what

955
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: this team has done in free agency the last like

956
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: six years? What I'm saying, that's the type of guy

957
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, h Bradley, Robie Um. You could kick the

958
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: tires on what's left of Josh Norman if you wanted to, Like,

959
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: that's the type of stuff this team has done in

960
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: the past is not necessarily Ut does Mike McCarthy have

961
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: during the free agency? Well, hold on, we just talked

962
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: about it before. Jason Witten wants to come back and

963
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 1: he's not signed yet. He's got a big voice. Yeah,

964
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: that's a great point here, boy, right. But again, it's

965
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: like I don't know when like McCarthy's used to do

966
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: and during free agent, and you know it would be

967
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: it would be a departure from what we've seen for

968
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to sign a contract that was worth more

969
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: than two years and tens of millions of dollars like

970
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: those are not the types of deals. You know, Randall

971
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Cobb was their best edition. He was one year what five? Yeah,

972
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns even was two years eleven or something like

973
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: that like that. It's just try to do it in

974
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: the draft. And that's my point. So the free agent

975
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: signing is going to be a corner Anthony Brown, Right,

976
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: I'd honestly be fine with that. But but and that

977
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: does give you some insurance so that if you want

978
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: to go into draft, you know that at least you

979
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: got a body and an experienced body, and you can

980
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: put him out there and you feel play inside and

981
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: you know decent about it. When that person told me

982
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: that they were gonna sign Anthony Brown, they said, you

983
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: gotta have four, you gotta have four, you do so

984
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: that just means they're gonna draft some body and then

985
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: they're Honestly, I'm if Anthony Brown can be brought back

986
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: on a decent deal, like just not breaking the bank.

987
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 1: And I don't even want to throw numbers out there,

988
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: but something that's not crazy, that gives you three, gives

989
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: you two guys that can play and inside because Jordan

990
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: and maybe you can both do it. Then you're still

991
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: gonna want to draft a corner, but you don't have

992
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: to do it at seventeen, Right, what are you draft

993
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: finding sign and Anthony Brown too? I don't because you

994
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: know what that does agetting. Nobody's getting excited about this

995
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: at all about Anthony Brown. But what that does is

996
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: that covers you for two years, because next year you're

997
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: gonna take a hit with one of those two guys

998
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: to leave, right George d People think so, then that

999
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: kind of covers you for that year, not to mention

1000
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: the guy you've drafted and all that. Barring something crazy,

1001
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: I probably would want a double dip at corner of

1002
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: this year, just like they did with Cheeto and Jordan,

1003
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: Like not maybe not back to back like they did,

1004
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: but like second, fifth, first and fifth, second and sixth

1005
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: something like. You know, based off what they do. You know,

1006
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to be a corner

1007
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: slash safety played two years year. There, We're forgetting that

1008
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson is going to be a pro bowler for

1009
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: this team. We're forgetting about that. Well, I'll say that

1010
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek. I'm sorry,

1011
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: get good. Since we started talking about the draft, and

1012
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: since a lot of people around the NFL have started

1013
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: creating mock drafts and all of that, I wanted to

1014
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: ask each in one of you, what position will you

1015
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: prefer to draft in the first round when the Cowboys

1016
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: come up? Dave, since you've been talking about the draft

1017
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: for weeks, now, let's start with you. I mean, the

1018
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: obvious choice, if it makes sense, is honestly cornerback. I

1019
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: just I just don't think Byron will be here. And

1020
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: if you could get a Christian Fulton, who is a

1021
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: really good player, by the way, it's not just because

1022
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: he went to LSU, but I mean, there's a bunch

1023
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: of other guys um or it might well or the

1024
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: other logical one is like it might line up that

1025
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: edge rusher is a really good value there. Aj Epinessa

1026
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: is one of the best ones in this class. He

1027
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: could be there another LSU guy. I swear at Claven Chason.

1028
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 1: It's not because I went to LU exactly. No, they've

1029
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: got They've got twenty five freaking players in this draft.

1030
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: Those are two guys. But then you guys know, I

1031
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: want to draft a wide receiver, like I just I mean,

1032
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: if we're sitting here saying, well, we feel all right

1033
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: about this cornerback, but maybe the value is a little

1034
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: a little strong, or you could take an insane wide

1035
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: receiver at seventeen and turn this offense into an even

1036
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: bigger jug or not like it's not responsible, but man,

1037
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: it sounds fun. Like Henry Ruggs or Ceedee Lamb on

1038
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: this team. Let slams either he could be really seventeen.

1039
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: It's I doubt it, but it's yeah he's there, and

1040
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: they don't run up there to get him. Put his

1041
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: name in. It would be so Lamb. It would be surprising.

1042
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: You're just saying that because he towards it. No, he

1043
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't just touch everybody ever was toting somebody. That guy's good.

1044
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: This receiver class disgust. But the one you didn't name

1045
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: him that I think they really need his defensive tackle.

1046
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: That's another one. Draft me a defensive tackle, one of

1047
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: those big guys in there. You don't know about him yet,

1048
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: but you're gonna fall in love with Javon Kenny Law. Yeah,

1049
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: I've heard about him. Yeah, I've seen a little bit

1050
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: of tape. Six six six six three ten can play all.

1051
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he could play three, he could play end

1052
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: in a three four, he could play nose tackle, he

1053
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: can play three techniqueless. Yeah, he was one that was Yeah,

1054
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: he grew up. I think his mom is still struggle.

1055
00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: He's got a really cool story, knows how to knows

1056
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: how to struggle, knows how to overcome adversity. He might

1057
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: not be there either. It's possible, is everybody to fall

1058
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: in love with that guy. It's very there's gonna be

1059
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: a really good player there for him. I just don't

1060
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: know what the value will be. Can I just do

1061
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: my Stephen Jones impression? We're sho gonna take best player available.

1062
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna look the board. We're gonna study the board,

1063
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: and you know whatever it is. Honestly, that's how I

1064
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: would say. Like when you first asked that question, my

1065
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: thought was, I'm the wrong person to ask that because

1066
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in I understand Justin Herbert. I

1067
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: understand you get the position you want, But I also

1068
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: believe opportunities present themselves based upon thinking about it from

1069
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: the best player available. If a guy drops to you

1070
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: and he is an outstanding player, and it's at a position,

1071
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think there's a position on

1072
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: this team where you're like, well, we can't use him, Okay,

1073
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert Oregan he fell. If you feel great about

1074
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and you think he's better, like I've heard

1075
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: some people throw around the option of do you maybe

1076
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: look at trading Dak and going back to the well,

1077
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but but I do think that

1078
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: you look, you look across this, across the landscape with

1079
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: this team, I don't think there's a position right now,

1080
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I can't use a player like That

1081
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's a player position of need, but there's

1082
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: not a position where if I have a great player

1083
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: available available to me. I can't figure out how. Okay,

1084
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: let's say that there are good options out of each position,

1085
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: what would be the position that you they're all equal.

1086
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: If they're all equal, give me a big time safety.

1087
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: I just think they've been waiting, and I think that

1088
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: makes everything else better. I think your cornerbacks get better.

1089
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: I think your pass rush has a little more time.

1090
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: I think everything gets better if you give me. Like

1091
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in a guy like Delpit because he's

1092
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 1: a guy that, to me, you might be able to

1093
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: get a lot of value out of somebody like him

1094
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: because this last year wasn't as good as the year before,

1095
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: and maybe the ankle injury really was the issue, and

1096
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: maybe he really is a great player. But because of

1097
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: last year, he can drop a little farther in the

1098
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: first round and you can get him. Maybe you can

1099
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: trade down and even get a guy like Delpit. But

1100
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: if you can come up with that kind of like,

1101
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: if you come up with a safety who is a

1102
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: game changing type safety, I'm all in on that. I

1103
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: think that's the position of need that the Cowboys haven't

1104
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: had forever. Here's the thing I agree with you. I

1105
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: came to this bummer of a conclusion the other day.

1106
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: Grant Delpitt and Xavier McKinney, those are the two names

1107
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear LSU and Alabama. They're are widely considered

1108
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: the two best safeties. I don't think either one of

1109
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: them is as good as Derwin James really, and the

1110
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: Cowboys were not interested in Derwin James at nineteen. But

1111
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: that's also different because you're talking about a different coaching staff,

1112
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: and we know that coaching staff had very Yeah, you're

1113
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: not interesting ideas on player acquisition. I still think I don't.

1114
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the front office is largely in place. You're right,

1115
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy and his staff are going to have

1116
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: an input on this, But I think some of those

1117
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: philosophies go higher than the coaching staff. If you think

1118
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: Delpitt's two thousand eighteen season was an aberration, no, I

1119
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: think he's a hell of a player. He's a really,

1120
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: really good player, and it should be a first round pick.

1121
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's as good as Derwin James was

1122
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: coming out. Okay, maybe we don't get Derwin James, but

1123
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: if we get a really, really, really good safety, does

1124
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: that not help this team? Yeah, but will the Cowboys

1125
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: be willing to draft him with that high of a yeah?

1126
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: But the thing is, asset is twenty three? Would you

1127
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: trade back to maybe a twenty three twenty four range?

1128
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 1: But Derwin James, Derwin James isn't slip into seventeen based

1129
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: off of what how he played, And maybe that'll help

1130
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I mean, because no one expect I mean,

1131
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: he there's other teams that would have drafted him if

1132
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: they thought he would translate the way he did into

1133
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: the NFL. And he was a really really good player,

1134
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: dynamic player. So I think that the Cowboys might look

1135
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: at that and go, you know what, we were wrong

1136
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: on that this guy was better than we thought. It's possible, man,

1137
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit could do so much for you. And there

1138
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: are people with concerns about his tackling ability, but I'll

1139
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: take his coverage ability all day, like I got other

1140
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm paying a bowload of money to two

1141
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 1: linebackers that are supposed to handle the tackling. Well, those

1142
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: tackling issues a problem in two thousand eighteen. Boys, it

1143
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: just last year. They were better in eighteen. But he,

1144
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got documented issues well that's gonna that's

1145
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: gonna be last year a lot. Yeah, tackling, Yeah, absolute,

1146
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: So get He's got eight picks the last two years.

1147
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: He can play Who's I want that center fielder? He

1148
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: can play center field, he can play nickel, he can

1149
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: do all that stuff. Who's your band aid at safety?

1150
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: In March? You gotta get somebody Jeff Heath. Jeff he

1151
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: said that a month ago, and y'all got mad. I

1152
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: get mad. You could sign Jeff Heath for pennies on

1153
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: the dollar by NFL standards, like three year deal. I

1154
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I've said the six million dollars? Is that crazy?

1155
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Eight million? Guys, you're so mad right now? Cared. He'll

1156
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: just be careful about that because remember, where's what's Jeff

1157
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Heath's best position? Special teams? Okay, Rich Bisaccia sitting in Oakland,

1158
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: he's the coach there, Jason Garrett, that staff, Jerome Henderson,

1159
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 1: don't say this. There was the Giants. I'm just saying,

1160
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna have a better free agent

1161
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: market than you think he's got. He's got a house here,

1162
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: he just had a kid. He'll have a house forever

1163
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: because he doesn't pay state taxes just him and had

1164
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: a house here when he went to Arizona. Like it happens.

1165
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: You can pick up a kid and move him. I

1166
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: can turn me like they don't have to see in

1167
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: the same I don't care who gets mad at me

1168
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: for sorry Dad's Dad's going to Jacksonville. I'm just saying,

1169
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: come on, kid, the commute, the ten minute commute down

1170
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: the Dallas North Tollway is better than you're moving to

1171
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: New York. Money football, same, Yeah, it'll be, but it

1172
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: also will be about opportunity too. I mean, you got

1173
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: to remember this is a football player, and he may

1174
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: say I got more opportunities in Oakland or more opportunity

1175
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: in New York than I'm going to have in Dallas.

1176
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm seas guy m Yeah, for sure he does. With

1177
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: the team goes with the super duper duper interested in

1178
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: upgrading the safety position. I'd love to have Delpitt or

1179
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: McKinney on this team, but I would still make Jeff

1180
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: Heath a high priority in March, just as a band aid. Yep,

1181
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: that's all right. Well I'm not I'm not totally against that.

1182
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't want I really don't want

1183
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: to go into next season with him as your pencil starter. Hopefully.

1184
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: I think they should. I need, I think they need

1185
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: to upgrade that position. Antoine Winfield is another name I

1186
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: want to throw on y'all's radarter junior because he is

1187
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: that guy's son that I was about to say. That

1188
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 1: name sounds anything like him. His dad was a really

1189
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: good play His son hits like an s ob and

1190
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: has really good coverage skills. Okay, take him. I mean,

1191
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: where's where's he projected? Right now? Where do you go

1192
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: to school? Minnesota? Okay? I would hope. I would hope

1193
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: to get him at pick fifty one in the second round.

1194
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: But it's it's hard to nail down all those evaluations

1195
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: because I remember Darnell Savage actually the kid that green

1196
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Bay drafted. He would like some people were saying he

1197
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: was like a third round pick, and green Bay took

1198
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: him in the first round, so I would when Fields

1199
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: probably like a second round pick though. Okay, all right,

1200
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: well I get that kind of gotten second round him in.

1201
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: There are all kinds of possibilities here, so we shall

1202
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: see when the time comes. Let's see what happens, all right, Well,

1203
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: anything else you guys want to add we're done. Hi,

1204
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: they we're good. We're good. Is there gonna be a

1205
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: show next week? I don't know. I won't be here,

1206
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: We'll be at the No combine, Yeah, so combine. So

1207
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: we're looking for the show Draft Picks. We actually will

1208
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 1: be doing the Draft show. I think throughout next week, right,

1209
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: will be multiple episodes of that, so I don't know

1210
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: if we'll have a break episode. We will have multiple episodes.

1211
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: I can't wait to join it. The Draft Show. Now, Colin,

1212
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: you're welcome, I don't think so. No. Yeah, we're gonna

1213
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: to just evaluate the drills and they're like black guy,

1214
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: We'll give you half a segment on give us the

1215
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: latest Cowboys news and drill. All right, guys, well, make

1216
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: sure just to visit the website just to know when

1217
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: those shows are going to be happening. And that's it

1218
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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. For

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